Since starting the darkroom course,i have shot 1 roll of colour.I'll
let you know when i jump from 99% to 100%g
Dave
NOW FORMING
The PDML Hundred Percenters Club, for those netizens who shoot 100%
black-and-white.
We have two members already.
Hi .
For anyone who shoots HIE in the winter,how does this work out.I have taken a few
lateley
of
coniferous trees in snow on sunny days,just trying to finish up a roll in the SP500,
bracketing around
the 125 at f 11 but have not finished the roll.
Any comments or tips.Should have the roll done
Hectic week or so coming up and no daytime computer
until next weekend,so i'm dropping out for 7-8 days.You have a bit of a break from my
dumb
qa's
g
Dave Brooks
On March 1, 2003 11:10 pm, Mike Johnston wrote:
NOW FORMING
The PDML Hundred Percenters Club, for those netizens who shoot 100%
black-and-white.
We have two members already. Anybody else wanna join?
So how long do we have to be pure to qualify? If we stray ?-)
Nick
On March 1, 2003 08:23 am, frank theriault wrote:
They were the best deal in speakers ever. Great satellites for a
sub-woofer, and great patio speakers as well (not waterproof, but you could
PSB which I think is/was in Pickering,Ontario used to be great bang for the
$$$. I haven't
On March 2, 2003 12:21 am, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 1 Mar 2003 at 22:23, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
soft focus lenses as well as shift lenses are obsolete
due to photoshop IMHO.
Of course in the case of emulating an 11mm shift in photoshop from a full
frame 35mm film scan would mean that a
Peter wrote:
looks like the *ist D will have a strong following.
REPLY:
I find that you are very selective about this. When I red the discussion about the
*ist D on dpreview yesterday, the essence was that $1500 was too cheap for the Canon
and that Pentax would have a hit on their hands if
Peter wrote:
So it seems
reasonable that Pentax, at first, doesn't want to
monkey with some camera that will only appeal to
Pentaxians.
REPLY
Isn't that exactly what they have done? I believe that theres a certain number of
people that will buy a Pentax DSLR regardless. And taht are those who
Mike wrote:
Case in point: early adopters of the Canon EOS D30 have lost more cash than
the entire cost of the EOS 10D.
REPLY:
This is the fate of any DSLR at this point. Probably also the *istd D. The *ist D3
will cost the same as the value loss of the *ist D.
Pål
Tom wrote:
But
realistically, Pentax's *ist is simply not realistic enough to compete with
Canon or idealistic enough to capture one's imagination.
REPLY
Sadly, thats my view too. I just hope the *ist D is compromised in order to be a entry
level DSLR and not suggestive for Pentax design
Frantisek wrote:
*HyM - HyperManual!!! At last. The most useful Pentax implementation,
in my opinion. If it works same as on PZ1p, it effectively allows you
to be in both manual mode and auto/program mode at once.
Reply:
Not so. The Z-1p does not allow you to be in both auto and manual mode
Don't worry, everyone will get board with it before long.
Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now I'm sorry I started this particular branch.
At 10:06 PM 3/1/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Pity. I thought it might be something for keeping a log of your
photo activities.
It is capable of handling
- Original Message -
From: Peter Jansen
Subject: *ist D Competition?: The New Nikon D2
Here's what I've copied from the www.dpreview.com
website under the discussion groups. No mention on the
cost however, but it sounds high-end:
SInce it's from a discussion and not from an official
Hi Paul and all,
My wife`s aunt has a IIIg. I went over and looked at it once and it`s
in great shape. Then I priced them on ebay to let her know
what its worth is, and you are right, they are very pricey!!!, even
a IIIg box went for big bucks.
She worked at Standard Oil photographing things
Dario wrote:
That's interesting to me. However, apart from more or less sexy body, more
or less complete line of lenses, more or less Pentax feeling camera (all of
them being important), the most important question among Pentax film camera
users (all of us) is:
Will the *ist D line capable to
Quoth Frank:
I'm lucky if I know what film's in what body at any given time...
VBG I admire you're statistical acumen.
Nah, that's just data collection. Knowing how to _use_ the
info to spot meaningful trends that can show me better ways
to shop for film, _that_ would be statistical acumen.
- Original Message -
From: Peter Jansen
Subject: *ist D Competition?: The New Nikon D2
Here's what I've copied from the www.dpreview.com
website under the discussion groups. No mention on the
cost however, but it sounds high-end:
Where is it? Can't find it. Anyway, some
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Soft Lenses
no, but it's being replaced with the craftsmanship of photoshop
and digital printers.
Ther's craftsmanship in Photoshop?
Theres a hard to swallow concept.
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: What film do you use?
You can print color negs as BW on Kodak Panalure paper, but it's a pain
in the a**. It has to be done in total darkness without a safelight. And
the results are so-so. The best way to make BW out of color is
- Original Message -
From: Nick Zentena
Subject: Re: Soft Lenses
On March 2, 2003 12:21 am, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 1 Mar 2003 at 22:23, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
soft focus lenses as well as shift lenses are obsolete
due to photoshop IMHO.
Of course in the case of emulating an
- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: what you LIKE about *ist D ?
Not so. The Z-1p does not allow you to be in both auto and manual mode
simultaneously, only the MZ-S.
Nonsense. You cannot be in two exposure modes simultaneously. Exposure
modes are discreet operating
William wrote:
Nonsense. You cannot be in two exposure modes simultaneously. Exposure
modes are discreet operating protocols.
The above is pure semantics and rather counterproductive to the discussion. The fact
is that you are in auto mode and dial in manual exposure and get it.
Pål
- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: Dedicated lenses for DSLR
I'm confident that image quality is up there with compewtition. This
doesn't bother me at all. However, the question about Pentax support of
their products will be amplifies at this juncture. Will Pentax
--- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom wrote:
But
realistically, Pentax's *ist is simply not realistic
enough to compete with
Canon or idealistic enough to capture one's
imagination.
Tom,
Fortunately, that is *not* my view on this matter.
How is the Pentax's ZX series compete
I have a question for the hundred percenters. Let's say you viewed the
following on a good color monitor:
- a dozen high-quality images that had been shot with black and white film,
and
- a dozen high-quality images that had been shot with color print film, then
saved in grayscale.
Then I
William wrote:
That it's not using cutting edge technology is consistent with Pentax, but
they do have problems staying less than 4 steps behind what is current
camera technology, hence they were still flogging the LX as the flagship
when the Nikon F5 was getting old.
I think the *ist D is
Taz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm new to the list and have been spending the evening looking at some of
your posts.
The introductions of the *ist and *ist-D seem to be bringing in an unusually
large number of new names to PDML. Welcome aboard, Taz.
You wrote:
I have Minolta and Pentax gear...
Ah--Minolta autofocus. Never mind.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Subject: RE: The Hundred Percenters
I have a question for the hundred percenters. Let's say you viewed the
following on a good color monitor:
- a dozen high-quality images that had been shot with black and white
film,
and
- a
Rick wrote:
Fortunately, that is *not* my view on this matter.
How is the Pentax's ZX series compete realistically
with the Canon's stuff? And yet, the ZX series are
great sellers and compete very well with the Canons as
well as the Nikons in the consumer line of stuff.
That is beacuse
John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I don't personalise it, in 1968 the Spotmatic cost about 8 times the
average weekly wage in England. Today, the *ist D at US$1300 will cost
about three times the Australian industrial average wage.
OK, now we're talkin'. That's impressive.
[EMAIL
- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: Dedicated lenses for DSLR
I think the *ist D is cutting edge both in packaging and in technology.
The AF is basically batter than the competition. The feature level is very
high for its segment and there no reason to assume that image
From what I've seen, people may be buying SLRs, but they aren't using them
on a regular basis. I seldom see another SLR at public events. I don't see
them out on the street. When I shoot a school event, I'll see maybe three or
four other SLRs. One will be autofocus; the rest are vintage models
Mike Johnston pointed out:
Not to ignore the content of Shaun's message, however--I agree with you
Shaun. The fact is, when you have only one product, you need to make sure it
is mainstream. If you try to make it too different, it will probably
appeal to too few people. The *ist D looks to be
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 08:35:48 -0600, you wrote:
That it's not using cutting edge technology is consistent with Pentax, but
they do have problems staying less than 4 steps behind what is current
camera technology, hence they were still flogging the LX as the flagship
when the Nikon F5 was getting
Bruce,
can you share which type of Stofen Omni-Bounce fits to AF360FGZ
head? I'm thinking to order one but there is no mention of that flash on
their web pages. Is the same as for the AF500FGZ (model OM-C) or
something else?
BTW, does somebody know which fits to AF280T head?
Thanks,
Matjaz
I just created a directory with this name '*ist D'
No problem, so it is not correct to state that 'none of us' will be able
to do that, I love Linux.
If I remember correctly you can do that in UNIX, it may, probably will have
side effects. (I'm not even going to try to predict what then may
Yup. I am thinking of trying my hand at hand coating my own sheet film this
year.
...While wearing his hair shirt and flagellating himself with a cat o' nine
tails. And every now and then, bonking himself on the forehead with a wooden
psalter tablet
--Mike
Ther's craftsmanship in Photoshop?
Believe it.
Cotty
Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
http://www.macads.co.uk/
soft focus lenses as well as shift lenses are obsolete
due to photoshop IMHO.
Except soft-focus lenses and shift lenses have ALWAYS been obsolete.
Well, actually, soft-focus lenses have only been obsolete since about 1910.
But view cameras have always been better than shift lenses.
--Mike
I would say there's no reason to be afraid of a lens
with fungus (as long as the shop knows what they're
doing). Just my thoughts...
Steve,
Just your thoughts for NOW. Talk to us in another two years when the fungus
is coming back...and four of your other lenses also have itg
Be
...For those of you who may not know, I was responsible for introducing
the term _bokeh_ to photographers in America
WoW! Blow me down! That's GREAT minutia, Mike! Bless you - I'll
treasure this knowledge till I die!
Thanks, John, it was my forty-five seconds of fame. g
--Mike
Hi Paul
Yep my Minolta gear is autofocus2 700si's and one 9xi(currently sent
into minolta for repairs..ouch!!!).
But as your comment about what your seeing on the street, I think I've been
seeing mostly digital PS and a few 35mm PS. My friends were all digital
PS as was I for a while,
Many years ago (1978) I got my first camera - Pentax MX. (This was love at
first sight.) Then came the 6x7. Initially I used transparencies almost
exclusively until I discovered Fred Picker and took his Zone VI workshop in
Vermont. Since then I have been photographing and printing in BW
You missed the 90/3.5. http://www.cosina.co.jp/90sl/
I think Rob is the only one the PDML has one of this lenses. You want one?
Try this http://www.cameraquest.com/.
Nope, I owned the 75/2.5 SL in Pentax K mount. Sold it to a PDMLer, although
I regret I've forgotten who.
--Mike
William Robb commented:
From: Malcolm Smith
80% BW - I assume that is because you process it yourself, something I
can't do for both technical and space reasons at present. It must be great
to have control over the whole process, from loading the camera to passing
round the processed
Fair enough, William; I'll recast the question:
Let's say you viewed a high-quality printout on high-qulaity paper of an
uncompressed, high-resolution digital scan of a dozen...
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, since there is no way to view an image on a computer monitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that in _many_ products, failing to offend has become more
important than managing to thrill.
I agree. A recent article in Time or Newsweek examined precisely this point
in explaining why owners of Volkswagen Passats LOVE their car on an
emotional level that
Glenn:
First of all, I assume you set the camera shutter
speed to the same as the sync setting (125x), in
manual mode? Or, do I leave shutter set to AUTO? The
manual does say to leave the Super Program set to AUTO
for TTL flash.
Second, when you say to turn the exposure
compensation dial to
This is not what it is all about. It isn't about making something weirdo appealing to
a few. It is about being distinctive or downright appealing. Cars still look like cars
but still some manages to design cars that look gorgeous without being weird. Making a
copy of another makers car is a
John wrote:
If it is not good, or not cheap, Pentax has missed their market. At
this point in the DSLR market, Pentax is a third-party camera maker,
much like Sigma and Tokina are third-party lens makers.
But are there any indication that the *ist D is goling to be particularly cheap?
Rick wrote:
As far as I know, this is just a base platform for
better things to come from Pentax, coming from a
Pentax rep.
I've been saying the same thing since 1996, but does anyone believe it anymore?
I agree with most of what your saying but key word is trust. Are anyone believing in
Ken (and all),
Thanks for the observations. I've been to Japan a few times on business.
I've noticed a few things in wandering around Akihabara stores and, say,
Yodobashi Camera near Shinjuku station. One is that Japanese products like
laptops, mobile phones, cameras, etc., tend towards the
I believe the Summicron is the best. Many of the early Leitz lenses were
not coated so this is something to look for. When I attend swap meets I
rarely see any screw mount Leica stuff, especially lenses. I heard, once,
that many Leica collectors in Japan have purchased a lot of the good stuff.
the telling difference is the grain structure. BW and color films look different in
that way when the color scan is converted to
grayscale.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:36
Subject: Re: The
- Original Message -
From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Subject: Re: Can the LCD of the *istD be used as a viewfinder
I can relate to Steven's disorientation. My wife and I drive Fords with
digital green fluorescent clocks. The digits are nice and bright until you
turn the headlights on.
- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: Dedicated lenses for DSLR
Rick wrote:
As far as I know, this is just a base platform for
better things to come from Pentax, coming from a
Pentax rep.
I've been saying the same thing since 1996, but does anyone believe it
- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: Dedicated lenses for DSLR
John wrote:
If it is not good, or not cheap, Pentax has missed their market. At
this point in the DSLR market, Pentax is a third-party camera maker,
much like Sigma and Tokina are third-party lens
i disagree with WR. a monitor's contrast range exceeds that of any printed medium and
can easily achieve just as good color
fidelity. 200dpi color monitors have been with us now for a couple of years and they
are able to reproduce everything that can be
captured from a color slide. these
There's no reason why you can't use the Zenitar. Bruce Dayton has
already discussed using the F 17-28 fisheye. Since you will be using the
center of the lens, you should get good sharpness and little distortion.
Joe
first sight.) Then came the 6x7. Initially I used transparencies almost
exclusively until I discovered Fred Picker and took his Zone VI workshop in
Vermont. Since then I have been photographing and printing in BW almost
exclusively, mainly Tri-X, XP-2 Super and APX100. I say almost since I
The fact is that the third party Sigma DSLR achieved more interest at
announcement than the *ist D, but does it sell? I agree that Pentax has
become a cheap brand but they cannot survive in the DSLR market by being
cheap as I fear both Nikon and Caon have the market share giving them the
power
From the description of the new AF sytem of the *ist
D:
New 11-point AF sensor (SAFOX VIII) realizes enhanced
focusing
Does anyone know what realizes enhances focusing
means? We'll find out soon enough, but it sounds more
than just a tweaked MZ series AF system...
Peter
One assumes that realizes
The thing to remember, if you use the flash in TTL mode, ALL of the
controls that affect flash exposure are on the camera, NOT on the flash
itself.
So in TTL mode, any compensation you do will be on the camera, not on
the flash. You can change the ISO setting, or use the exposure
compensation
I think the Pentax smaller size may well appeal to the PS crowd if they can
make them auto and light enough. The ZX line seems to have accomplished
this. For just everyday beating around I like to carry either my ZX-M or
even a PZ-10 with a small light beater lens because of their small size,
i disagree with WR. a monitor's contrast range exceeds that of any printed
medium and can easily achieve just as good color
fidelity. 200dpi color monitors have been with us now for a couple of
years and they are able to reproduce everything that can be
captured from a color slide. these
- Original Message -
From: Taz
Subject: Re: How does Pentax fit into the Japanese market?
When I
get serious with a have to get the shot I choose my biggest camera,
minolta
9xi, before anything else.
What is it about the Minolta lenses that make you choose Minolta over Pentax
for
on 3/02/03 11:00 AM, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is not what it is all about. It isn't about making something weirdo
appealing to a few. It is about being distinctive or downright appealing. ...
The idea that if you make something along the line of the competition the
buyers
Pål,
the idea that if you build a product (e.g. a car) different from all the
competitors then the customers will buy it is not true either. With cars
as well as with cameras it is obvious that there are some trends that
all major competitors follow. The design of the *ist D is just right,
you have a monitor that does 4K x 3K. they exist.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Taz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 13:05
Subject: Re: The Hundred Percenters
Please explain this a bit further. Somewhere I'm in the dark here. If my
file is
Well as you may well know the 9xi is a pro body. I don't think it's so much
the lenses but rather the bodies them selves and I do really like the way
the minolta bodies fit into my hands. I say serious as when doing a wedding
and the procession is coming down the axile, and I've got but one
Wow...that's big! But it would seem unusable for anything else. Everything
else would be so tiny. So they must run dual monitors and just use that one
for images?
- Original Message -
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 12:19 PM
Subject:
Someone, possibly Shel, had put together a tutorial/guide to buying from
photostores in Japan, including email and Fax addresses.
I can't find where I stashed that note. Could anybody provide that to me
offline please?
Stan
Pål wrote:
If the *ist is sucessful, Pentax will
keep it running forever, like the K1000 and the LX,
until the interest dwindle to nothing. Hopefully,
they will be moderate sucesses so that Pentax sees
it worth improving.
I can't help not to think how similar SLR's looked in
the 70's early
Get into Digital Preview web site and look under the
Discusssion groups. This is info from a Nikon shooter.
AGAIN a rumour, but it sounds reasonable given how
old the D1H/X are, and the position of Canon these
days.
--- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
Pål wrote:
After all, everything points towards a
flexible production line for the *ist derivatives so
anything is probably possible.
That is probably their strategy. Pentax needs a safety
net since the competition is fierce and ever changing.
If no one buys the *ist D, then they may have to
Thanks Mat very much for your response. I will give
it a try today!
Have a great Sunday all!
--- Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The thing to remember, if you use the flash in TTL
mode, ALL of the
controls that affect flash exposure are on the
camera, NOT on the flash
itself.
So
From: Pl Jensen
*HyM - HyperManual!!! At last. The most useful Pentax implementation,
in my opinion. If it works same as on PZ1p, it effectively allows you
to be in both manual mode and auto/program mode at once.
Reply:
Not so. The Z-1p does not allow you to be in both auto and manual mode
Adphoto wrote:
heaven only if i could get pentax 43mm and 77mm in lecia r mount
And the point of that would be??
William Robb
Bill, don't you see? Don't you find it aesthetically enlightening
seeing the small Limiteds on that overblown Zenit 212 LeicaR9 is
vbg ?
Ah, the nice contour lines
What would be a good/fair price for he above lens in EX+ (KEH) condition
including both caps?
--
Later,
Gary
Soft focus maybe, although you get quite a different quality of
softness from soft lenses or from the magnificent Zeiss Softtar filters
than you do from a Gaussian blur in Photoshop (I have a Zeiss Softar 1
and a Vivitar soft focus filter that fit all my lenses). It does not
hit and spread the
You are the bokeh master, Mike.
So the shape of the specular highlights is determined by the shape of
the aperture; the amount and quality of the bokeh ('bouquet') is
determined by the optic itself.
Thanks, Mike; you're never too old to learn. BTW, I love your column
C.
On Saturday, March 1,
Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you have a monitor that does 4K x 3K. they exist.
Herb,
12 megapixel displays don't exist, except possibly in the rarefied world of
grayscale medical CRTs. Even then, I doubt it.
Maybe you're thinking of virtual desktops. On older operating systems,
companies
I do this trick quite often -- when having two flashes, one on camera, this
allows to change the ratio, works on LX just fine.
Mishka
I sincerely hope that Pentax will commission a native English
speaker to write the English version of the *ist D manual.
...or even an American... ;-)
Fred
The Super Program is my mail flash camera, and now I know why I haven't
managed to use fill flash: I don't take it off of autoexposure. No wonder
people buy newer camera bodies; fill flash needn't be calculated: You can
just tell the camera, Make it so. Right? At least, the Ricoh XR-X3P (their
No, not the camera, just the word P*ist.
Warren
Re: I'm P*ist
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You mentioned you used it?
So what is your overall impression? Would you buy it?
--- W. Xato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, (occassional poster here)
I'm not
Arnold wrote:
With cars
as well as with cameras it is obvious that there are some trends that
all major competitors follow.
Sure, but someone who is creating the trends are more likely to be successful in the
long run than mere followers.
The design of the *ist D is just right,
and
I believe it is 10 feet.
And yes a Pentax 300mm f2.8 is on my very short list,
though getting Pentax 1.4XL 2XL + the 1.7 AF
converters can be another $400-600.
: )
Peter
--- Paul Franklin Stregevsky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter,
I'm sending you my collected comments on the Pentax
Well, it is reality sort of. The new Olydak is being previewed and although the camera
is no beauty it has balls.
At least this system realizes some of the advantages of digital
yes, IBM's medical imaging monitors. you will have to look for them in specialized
places. i have not had a chance to touch any
myself, but many of my co-workers have. here is a link to the older monitor. note list
price of $22K.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Paul Franklin
Four new bodies and professional standard and wheather sealing. I believe Olympus is
getting my DSLR business!
Pål
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2915155403category=46
87
is this a new version
In a message dated 3/2/2003 5:16:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pe
ntax/
IST_uk.html
Regards
Sylwek
Aha. This is more like it. And maybe one or both of those questions I asked (through
Mike) might get
the link i posted is for a color monitor.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Pentax-Discuss' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 15:19
Subject: Re: 200 dpi monitors? (was: Re: The Hundred Percenters)
Herb Chong [EMAIL
Are these going to be shown at the PMA?
Olympus may indeed be the DSLR dark horse...
Pål I'd wait for the upper-end Pentax full-frame DSLR.
No need to buy a new system of lenses...
--- _Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Four new bodies and professional standard and
wheather sealing. I
Prototype only and we know what happens to some prototypes; they sometimes
don't make it to market - no specifications listed - no release dates
listed - looks nice but stating that you'd buy it is like every other
person wanting to run out and buy the *ist D sight unseen.
If you do go for the
Four new bodies and professional standard and wheather sealing.
Er... That's four new *lenses* isn't it?
Lukasz
PS. And I must say - the prototype looks pretty neat.
--r-e-k-l-a-m-a-
Szukasz banku bez prowizji ?
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I wrote:
Four new bodies and professional standard and wheather sealing. I believe Olympus is
getting my DSLR business!
And magnesium bodies. Olympus is squarely targeting the professional market according
to the press releases. The camera is no beauty but it is far from bland. I believe
On 03.3.2 3:49 PM, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Four new bodies and professional standard and wheather sealing. I believe
Olympus is getting my DSLR business!
Hi Pål,
I'm intrigued by this! Could you let me know where you got the info? URL?
Thanks,
Ken
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