GESO -- Hammonasset State Park; In search of Seals

2011-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Last weekend I went out to see if I could get a few shots of Harbor 
Seals at Hammonasset State Park.  There were seals all right but my 
400mm lens is only f5.6 and with a tele extender it's a bit slow for the 
light conditions I faced, (heavy overcast), so after a few failed 
attempts I called it a day.  Today it was bright and sunny so I trekked 
back to the park and, *there* *were* *no* *seals!*  However it was a 
beautiful day and there were lots of people so in the vein of live 
making lemonade when life gives you lemons, I wish to present.


Hammonasset State Park; In search of Seals: A GESO.

Page 1. The Jolly Green Giant's pickup stix.  Well really a couple of 
large, (tree trunk size) pieces of drift wood.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos1.html

I couldn't decide if I like them better with the human figures for the 
exaggerated sense of scale or as a semi abstract so I did both.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos2.html

The section of beach I was standing on was essentially made of shells...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos3.html

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos4.html

There were lots of people just taking in the sun, walking their dogs 
photographing each other and the scenery, with either smart phones or 
DSLRs nothing much in between.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos5.html

Yes I know, I missed the focus on this one, but I was hurrying the shot, 
I thought the content was worth it.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos6.html

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos7.html

I dragged my Vivitar 400mm f5.6 TX mount lens out looking to shoot 
pictures of Harbor Seals and I was going to use it for something


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos8.html

A somewhat dramatic shot of the nature trail along Meigs Point.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos9.html

These stacks of wood look like nothing so much to me as being set up as 
bonfires, not a smart thing to do in a state park/nature preserve...


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos9.html

So no seals but I hope some interesting and maybe amusing photos.

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w./smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0/smc Pentax FA 
28-200mm f3.8~5.6/smc Pentax 17mm Fisheye f4.0/Vivitar 400mm 
AutoTelephoto f5.6 TX with K mount.


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RE: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread Bob W
 
 The situation in Japan looks dire.
 My heart goes out to the Japanese people.
 And it looks like two nuclear reactors are in trouble.
 CNN here had somebody reporting cesium released.
 Not good at all - melting fuel rods...
 Regards,  Bob S.
 

There's an article about it on the BBC site:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12723092.

This is the paragraph that puzzles me:
To keep things in perspective, no nuclear accident has caused anything
approaching the 1,000 short-term fatalities stemming from Friday's
earthquake and tsunami. 

What is a short-term fatality? Is it anything to do with the approach of
Easter?

B



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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread Boris Liberman

On 3/13/2011 11:28 AM, Bob W wrote:

What is a short-term fatality? Is it anything to do with the approach of
Easter?

B


May be it has to do with radiation sickness??? When the effect, such as 
cancer or even mutations of the children of those affected by the 
radiation are not immediate (as in 'short-term').


Boris


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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread eckinator
2011/3/13 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 This is the paragraph that puzzles me:
 To keep things in perspective, no nuclear accident has caused anything
 approaching the 1,000 short-term fatalities stemming from Friday's
 earthquake and tsunami. 

that is so disgustingly cynical. if you care to know what severe
nuclear contamination does, point your google fu to fallujah depleted
uranium - the faint hearted may not want to do an image search...
makes you wonder what payroll the author is on...

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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread mike wilson

On 13/03/2011 10:28, Bob W wrote:


The situation in Japan looks dire.
My heart goes out to the Japanese people.
And it looks like two nuclear reactors are in trouble.
CNN here had somebody reporting cesium released.
Not good at all - melting fuel rods...
Regards,  Bob S.



There's an article about it on the BBC site:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12723092.

This is the paragraph that puzzles me:
To keep things in perspective, no nuclear accident has caused anything
approaching the 1,000 short-term fatalities stemming from Friday's
earthquake and tsunami. 



I suspect he means known. Not the only poorly-concocted (in fact, 
downright wrong) sentence in that article.  It falls sadly short of the 
usual BBC standards.


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RE: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread Bob W
 
 On 3/13/2011 11:28 AM, Bob W wrote:
  What is a short-term fatality? Is it anything to do with the approach
 of
  Easter?
 
  B
 
 May be it has to do with radiation sickness??? When the effect, such as
 cancer or even mutations of the children of those affected by the
 radiation are not immediate (as in 'short-term').
 

a fatality is a death. A short-term fatality is therefore a short-term
death. I've always been under the impression that death was one of those
long-term things.

It's a sloppily-written article that hasn't been well edited either.

B


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Re: GESO -- Hammonasset State Park; In search of Seals

2011-03-13 Thread mike wilson

On 13/03/2011 10:03, P. J. Alling wrote:

Last weekend I went out to see if I could get a few shots of Harbor



http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos3.html


There are some interesting bore holes in one of those slipper limpet 
shells.  Next time you are there, would you mind doing a closeup for me?


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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread mike wilson
The plants look decidedly different on Googly earth, compared to the 
pictures on the BBC website.  Only one chimney stack, for starters.  Of 
course, the only photo available is:

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/23556015.jpg


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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread Boris Liberman

On 3/13/2011 12:25 PM, Bob W wrote:

a fatality is a death. A short-term fatality is therefore a short-term
death. I've always been under the impression that death was one of those
long-term things.

It's a sloppily-written article that hasn't been well edited either.


Oh, I see your point now, Bob. Well, I am not as sensitive to this kind 
of sloppiness as you are. Evidently, this could have been worded in a 
way that wouldn't allow for more than one way of understanding the 
author's intent.


Boris

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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread mike wilson

On 13/03/2011 10:43, mike wilson wrote:

The plants look decidedly different on Googly earth, compared to the
pictures on the BBC website. Only one chimney stack, for starters. Of
course, the only photo available is:
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/23556015.jpg


My mistake: there are at least three nuclear plants on that coast plus 
at least one coal fired one.  I found the big bang one.  Anyone know how 
to capture coordinates from GE?


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Re: Re: K-5 firmware v1.03

2011-03-13 Thread Jens
True, Paul, I jsut discovered myself.
Whar I like is being able to shift foucpoint while looking in the viewfinder. I 
don't think I could not do that with the K-7. Now I can, provided I do NOT lock 
the chosen focus point with the OK button. That's actualy very nice and useful 
:-) 

To access til four Fn buttons, I just have to lock the focus point in advance.

Regards
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On Mar 13, 2011 01:54 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 On Mar 12, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Jens wrote:
  I have one small complaint :-)
  I think that the way to choose focusing point is actually improved,
  compared to the K-7. Whith the K-5 Pentax has fixed this problem
  (with having to pressing the OK button too often). But this fix has
  caused a new problem: I have to change the focus selection method to
  either Centre Point or Auto (I have to get away from Select before I
  can access the menues for WB, Flash etc. I think the K20D has a
  better solution - the Fn button, which came from the *ist DL. I
  still miss the Fn button.
 
 If you're in select autofocus mode, you can get to the WB menu and the
 others on the pad by holding down the OK button while you select one
 of the menu options. 
 Paul
 
  
  Regards  
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  On Mar 10, 2011 10:20 SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote:
  I see there is almost no complaints now on the pentaxforums and
  dpreview about K-5. What a strange situation :-)
  Stig Vidar Hovland
  
  
  
  Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne
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  Emne: K-5 firmware v1.03
  
  this is the latest firmware update for the K-5.
  
  according to Pentax it provides:
   Improved the accuracy of auto focus in low-intensity light
  condition.
  
  http://www.pentax.jp/english/support/digital/k-5_s.html
  
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Laptop for minitor for the K-7

2011-03-13 Thread Jens
Hi list
Does anyone know if I can use a Laptop as a monitor for the K-5, please.
I remember the *ist D had this option if I instaled special software for this 
on my laptop. Can I do thsi with the K-5. And - in case it's a YAE, will I have 
to use Live View?


One more question:
Do I need all the formware updates, or will the 1.03 contain all previous 
updates?

Thanks in advance. 
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Re: OT: This is totally creepy

2011-03-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:12 AM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.livescience.com/5631-zombie-ants-controlled-fungus.html
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I'd hate to see your favorites list.:-)

Dave

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Re: PESO - Doe, a deer

2011-03-13 Thread David J Brooks
Really like the first two. Great detail

Dave

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Shot at the 100-are Lloyd A. Stage Nature Center in Troy, Michigan. This 
 heavily wooded plot on the banks of the Rouge River has a substantial herd of 
 wild deer.  K-5 and A400/5.6 . It was starting to drizzle -- very gloomy and 
 dark, even though the trees are bare.  Flash fill from 540 plus Xtender on 
 the first two. f8, 1/800th, ISO 2500.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12808354size=lg
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12808457size=lg
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Re: OT Hard drives

2011-03-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 if you type 'usb hard drive caddy' into your favourite South American river
 that isn't the Orinoco you'll get an idea how cheap they are. However, you
 might get it for no money at all if your electronics merchant is willing to
 trade for sex, chickens or a basket of vegetables. Depends on how much you
 value such things.

No one messes with my chickens

Dave

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Re: PESO: Milton Lower Falls

2011-03-13 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice old time feel to it

Dave

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 I shot a couple long exposure shots and sepia toned them.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/5517352987

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RE: Laptop for minitor for the K-7

2011-03-13 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Jen,
Firstly congrats on the K-5 and Secondly I am curious also about firmware
and if and when I update my K-R if I will need to install all versions or
will the latest have all the updates in one file.

Jeffery

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Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:11 AM
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One more question:
Do I need all the formware updates, or will the 1.03 contain all previous
updates?

Thanks in advance. 


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Re: Laptop for minitor for the K-7

2011-03-13 Thread Peter McIntosh
On 13 March 2011 23:10, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
 Hi list
 Does anyone know if I can use a Laptop as a monitor for the K-5, please.
 I remember the *ist D had this option if I instaled special software for this 
 on my laptop. Can I do thsi with the K-5. And - in case it's a YAE, will I 
 have to use Live View?


 One more question:
 Do I need all the formware updates, or will the 1.03 contain all previous 
 updates?

 Thanks in advance.

Jens,

You just need firmware 1.03. It is cumulative - also has 1.01 and 1.02 included.

I don't remember the specifics, but I don't believe you can tether the
K5 to a laptop.  There was some recent discussion (last 3-4 months) on
this - before I bought mine, so I paid scant attention. The archives
may cough it up if you search.

Regards,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

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Re: Enablement: K-5

2011-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Mar 13, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 
 On Mar 12, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Jens wrote:
 
 Who-hoo
 The mailman came with my new K-5 today.
 An excellent camera. I really needed it's high ISO ability:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157626248716380/
 
 Congratulations.  I wouldn't say that I'm deliriously happy with mine, though 
 others may. My only complaint is that I didn't have one sooner.  On the other 
 hand, I feel, and hope, that pushing against the limitations of my previous 
 cameras has made me a better photographer.
 
 I haven't yet explored the expanded ISO.  Does that change the circuitry at 
 all? Or if it's done via math, are you just as well off shooting at 12,800, 
 underexposing and processing in lightroom?

Absolutely not. Pushing the exposure in conversion raises the noise level 
exponentially. Don't know how the camera handles high ISO internally. But 
trying to duplicate it in conversion is not equivalent and is undesirable.

 
 All of my previous cameras have felt like interim cameras, with some major 
 drawback that prevented them from being my long term main camera. I don't 
 feel that way about my K-5.  I have no doubt that I will want the improved 
 performance, and features of newer models down the line, but the K-5 feels 
 like it has enough performance for what I need.  I haven't tried nighttime 
 landscapes yet, and I'm interested to see how it does with night sky noise.
 
 If you're anywhere near as happy with your K-5 as I am with mine, you must be 
 insufferable to be with.
 
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Re: K-5 firmware v1.03

2011-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Mar 13, 2011, at 3:45 AM, Jens wrote:

 
 Sorry - I was wrong! 
 I forgot that I can fix the focus point to the chosen one by pressing and 
 holdning the OK button down. But it's still annoying, that the focus point 
 selection button i built into the four Fn buttons, instead of having it's 
 own switch board.
 I know some camera reviews have had the same complaint. 
 I think the focus point selection is one of the most important/used switches 
 on a camera - next to the ON/OFF and the Focus/Relase, button, this is the 
 most important switch. 
 
 When I do studio portraits, I often use the focus selection to help focus 
 correctly - which means I can still use AF for portraits, otherwise it would 
 be impossible to do portraits with the camera on a tripod, since the eye(s) 
 of the model very rarely are placed in the centre of the frame.

I use focus selection all the time. The select switch become easy to use with 
practice. Even using select, I don't think I could properly place the selection 
point on a model's eye with the camera on a tripod. I never shoot on a tripod 
in the studio when working with a model. It makes spontaneous framing 
impossible. With the speed of flash exposures, I find it totally unnecessary.
Paul

 
 Regards
 Jens 
 
 
 I have one small complaint :-)
 I think that the way to choose focusing point is actually improved, compared 
 to the K-7. Whith the K-5 Pentax has fixed this problem (with having to 
 pressing the OK button too often). But this fix has caused a new problem: I 
 have to change the focus selection method to either Centre Point or Auto (I 
 have to get away from Select before I can access the menues for WB, Flash 
 etc. I think the K20D has a better solution - the Fn button, which came from 
 the *ist DL. I still miss the Fn button.
 
 Regards  
 Jens
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 On Mar 10, 2011 10:20 SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote:
 I see there is almost no complaints now on the pentaxforums and
 dpreview about K-5. What a strange situation :-)
 Stig Vidar Hovland
 
 
 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av
 Phil Northeast [rnort...@bigpond.net.au]
 Sendt: 10. mars 2011 06:34
 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Emne: K-5 firmware v1.03
 
 this is the latest firmware update for the K-5.
 
 according to Pentax it provides:
  Improved the accuracy of auto focus in low-intensity light
 condition.
 
 http://www.pentax.jp/english/support/digital/k-5_s.html
 
 Phil
 
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PESO Blues Angel

2011-03-13 Thread Larry Colen
Tonight I had the silly idea of photographing musicians in a small club with 
the A* 200/2.8 on the K-5
ISO 3200  f/2.8  1/30

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5522610780/

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Re: Laptop for minitor for the K-7

2011-03-13 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:32 +1100, Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On 13 March 2011 23:10, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
  Hi list
  Does anyone know if I can use a Laptop as a monitor for the K-5, please.
  I remember the *ist D had this option if I instaled special software for 
  this on my laptop. Can I do thsi with the K-5. And - in case it's a YAE, 
  will I have to use Live View?

 
 I don't remember the specifics, but I don't believe you can tether the
 K5 to a laptop.  There was some recent discussion (last 3-4 months) on
 this - before I bought mine, so I paid scant attention. The archives
 may cough it up if you search.
 



Apparently PK_Tether can do this but I haven't tried it.



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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think short term fatality means you die fairly quickly, like when
you are in a collapsing building.  This is distinguished from the
cancer/leukemia/enhanced heath risks that can be caused from exposure
to radiation.  Radiation may shorten your life by 10-20 years, but
falling bricks will end it quickly.  I think this is the distinction
he is making.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 13/03/2011 10:43, mike wilson wrote:

 The plants look decidedly different on Googly earth, compared to the
 pictures on the BBC website. Only one chimney stack, for starters. Of
 course, the only photo available is:
 http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/23556015.jpg


 My mistake: there are at least three nuclear plants on that coast plus at
 least one coal fired one.  I found the big bang one.  Anyone know how to
 capture coordinates from GE?

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Re: PESO Blues Angel

2011-03-13 Thread Walter Gilbert
   Very nice!  I can definitely see a difference in the noise at 3200 
compared to the K-x.


You might want to make sure that K-5 is locked in a safe for the 
duration of my trip out west, Larry.  I consider myself an honest 
person, and all ... but I'm only human.


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On 3/13/2011 7:47 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Tonight I had the silly idea of photographing musicians in a small club with 
the A* 200/2.8 on the K-5
ISO 3200  f/2.8  1/30

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5522610780/

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Re: Re: Laptop for minitor for the K-7

2011-03-13 Thread Jens
Thanks Pete.
I remeber reading something about some guys making attampts to design thrid 
party software for this kind of operation (tethering). 
I don't know where or how I can get hold of this software. 
What I really need is being able to store images on the fly to the laptop. I 
think the manual says I can do this :-)

This is the most important thing to me.

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On Mar 13, 2011 13:32 Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13 March 2011 23:10, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
  Hi list
  Does anyone know if I can use a Laptop as a monitor for the K-5,
  please.
  I remember the *ist D had this option if I instaled special software
  for this on my laptop. Can I do thsi with the K-5. And - in case
  it's a YAE, will I have to use Live View?
 
 
  One more question:
  Do I need all the formware updates, or will the 1.03 contain all
  previous updates?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
 Jens,
 
 You just need firmware 1.03. It is cumulative - also has 1.01 and 1.02
 included.
 
 I don't remember the specifics, but I don't believe you can tether
 the
 K5 to a laptop.  There was some recent discussion (last 3-4 months)
 on
 this - before I bought mine, so I paid scant attention. The archives
 may cough it up if you search.
 
 Regards,
 
 Pete Mac in Melbourne
 
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Re: PESO Blues Angel

2011-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
Spot on focus, composition and rendering, Larry.

Jack

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 Subject: PESO  Blues Angel
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 Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 5:47 AM
 Tonight I had the silly idea of
 photographing musicians in a small club with the A* 200/2.8
 on the K-5
 ISO 3200  f/2.8  1/30
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5522610780/
 
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Re: Re: Re: Laptop for minitor for the K-7

2011-03-13 Thread Jens

Well, it seems that there was a Remote Assistant for the K20D. 
That's good enough for me. The K20D is a very capable camera, quite capable of 
making splendid studio recordings at ISO 100.
I used it for this, which has a quite good image quality, regardless of the 
fact, that I edited it in Portrait Professional later on:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5512893505/

The K20D is a fine studio camera, some reviews even siad that the image quality 
is better than the one of the K-7.
I will give it a try with the remote assistant software provided with the 
camera :-)

Regards
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On Mar 13, 2011 13:56 Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
 Thanks Pete.
 I remeber reading something about some guys making attampts to design
 thrid party software for this kind of operation (tethering). 
 I don't know where or how I can get hold of this software. 
 What I really need is being able to store images on the fly to the
 laptop. I think the manual says I can do this :-)
 
 This is the most important thing to me.
 
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 On Mar 13, 2011 13:32 Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 13 March 2011 23:10, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
   Hi list
   Does anyone know if I can use a Laptop as a monitor for the K-5,
   please.
   I remember the *ist D had this option if I instaled special
   software
   for this on my laptop. Can I do thsi with the K-5. And - in case
   it's a YAE, will I have to use Live View?
  
  
   One more question:
   Do I need all the formware updates, or will the 1.03 contain all
   previous updates?
  
   Thanks in advance.
  
  Jens,
  
  You just need firmware 1.03. It is cumulative - also has 1.01 and
  1.02
  included.
  
  I don't remember the specifics, but I don't believe you can tether
  the
  K5 to a laptop.  There was some recent discussion (last 3-4 months)
  on
  this - before I bought mine, so I paid scant attention. The
  archives
  may cough it up if you search.
  
  Regards,
  
  Pete Mac in Melbourne
  
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Re: PESO Blues Angel

2011-03-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice.  Not obvious hint of high iso.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Tonight I had the silly idea of photographing musicians in a small club with 
 the A* 200/2.8 on the K-5
 ISO 3200  f/2.8  1/30

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5522610780/

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Re: PESO - Doe, a deer

2011-03-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
Excellent.  The first is a greta close up, but I think the third is a
better overall shot.  I always think of deer at partially concealed,
except when they run in front of my car.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:14 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Really like the first two. Great detail

 Dave

 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 Shot at the 100-are Lloyd A. Stage Nature Center in Troy, Michigan. This 
 heavily wooded plot on the banks of the Rouge River has a substantial herd 
 of wild deer.  K-5 and A400/5.6 . It was starting to drizzle -- very gloomy 
 and dark, even though the trees are bare.  Flash fill from 540 plus Xtender 
 on the first two. f8, 1/800th, ISO 2500.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12808354size=lg
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12808457size=lg
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Re: OT Hard drives

2011-03-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:49 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Paul Sorenson
 allarou...@earthlink.net wrote:
 It should be a standard size.  More importantly you need to determine if
 it's a serial (SATA) or parallel (PATA) drive and get a USB case to match.
  Given the age, it's more than likely parallel.

 I'm guessing there will be something marked on it.??

 Dave

 You can tell by connector type. If it's a wide ribbon cable (with 2
 rows of pins in the plug on the drive) it's IDE/PATA. if it's a skinny
 cable with a weird connector it's SATA.

 -Adam

Thanks. I'll open up the box today, or maybe try and boot one more time.??

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Re: PESO - Doe, a deer

2011-03-13 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Man, Paul.  Those are great shots!

The deer look rather healthy and well fed up in your part of the 
country.  She's big gal!


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On 3/12/2011 3:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Shot at the 100-are Lloyd A. Stage Nature Center in Troy, Michigan. This 
heavily wooded plot on the banks of the Rouge River has a substantial herd of 
wild deer.  K-5 and A400/5.6 . It was starting to drizzle -- very gloomy and 
dark, even though the trees are bare.  Flash fill from 540 plus Xtender on the 
first two. f8, 1/800th, ISO 2500.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12808354size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12808457size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12808358size=lg



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Re: Laptop for minitor for the K-7

2011-03-13 Thread mike wilson

On 13/03/2011 13:56, Jens wrote:

Thanks Pete.
I remeber reading something about some guys making attampts to design thrid 
party software for this kind of operation (tethering).
I don't know where or how I can get hold of this software.


Replied offlist with attachments.  I would have thought this software 
would have been on the CD with image management stuff that comes with 
Pentax cameras



What I really need is being able to store images on the fly to the laptop. I 
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Re: PESO Blues Angel

2011-03-13 Thread Bruce Walker

Ditto what Jack said.

-bmw

On 11-03-13 9:05 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Spot on focus, composition and rendering, Larry.

Jack

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From: Larry Colenl...@red4est.com
Subject: PESO  Blues Angel
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 5:47 AM
Tonight I had the silly idea of
photographing musicians in a small club with the A* 200/2.8
on the K-5
ISO 3200  f/2.8  1/30

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5522610780/

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Re: The myth of persistence

2011-03-13 Thread Boris Liberman

On 3/11/2011 8:52 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

Interesting essay.
On one hand he advocates not to persist at something you're not good
at, in order to spend time doing things that brings you more sense of
achiement. On the other hand, all his examples revolve around monetary
reward as the sole gauge of achievement.

Shoots his own logic in the foot, in my opinion.

Jostein


Jostein, are you trying to say that basically one has to have criteria 
for everything: how successful one is, does one enjoy doing whatever 
they are doing, how difficult it is to persevere on a given subject, is 
there any gain from persisting, etc.


Looks a bit like an egg and a turkey kind of question. So, I take snow 
scenes pictures (well, I don't, but just to flow with the underlying 
motif) and it does not come out right. Do I have to keep taking them? 
Well, may be, if I know that throughout the year (provided, I am not 
living in one season over whole year climate zone) I take other 
pictures, say of similar grand motif, a.k.a. landscape and they turn out 
good. May be I just enjoy the process of shooting out in the cold snowy 
weather. They may not sell, I may delete them afterwards... Am I 
actually trying to compete face to face with well known and established 
artists of the genre?


Or perhaps I am missing the point entirely here...

Boris

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Re: OT Hard drives

2011-03-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:46 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:49 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Paul Sorenson
 allarou...@earthlink.net wrote:
 It should be a standard size.  More importantly you need to determine if
 it's a serial (SATA) or parallel (PATA) drive and get a USB case to match.
  Given the age, it's more than likely parallel.

 I'm guessing there will be something marked on it.??

 Dave

 You can tell by connector type. If it's a wide ribbon cable (with 2
 rows of pins in the plug on the drive) it's IDE/PATA. if it's a skinny
 cable with a weird connector it's SATA.

Its a Maxtor 80 gig PATA133HD, 3.5 series, with an open back, meaning
is can see the circuit board.

Dave

 -Adam

 Thanks. I'll open up the box today, or maybe try and boot one more time.??

 Dave

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Re: OT Hard drives

2011-03-13 Thread David J Brooks
Will one of these work.??

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276554sku=ULT40112

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259603sku=M501-2500

The main web page:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=2777name=Hard-Drive-Enclosure

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Re: OT Hard drives

2011-03-13 Thread Walter Gilbert

   Hi David,

This is more along the lines of what you'd need.  They're pretty much 
no-brainers.  You just seat them in the enclosure, plug them in, connect 
them to your USB port, and you're good to go.


http://www.amazon.com/3-5-IDE-HDD-Enclosure-Black/dp/tags-on-product/B0018NEQFI

-- Walt




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Will one of these work.??

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276554sku=ULT40112

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259603sku=M501-2500

The main web page:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=2777name=Hard-Drive-Enclosure

Dave





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Re: GESO -- Hammonasset State Park; In search of Seals

2011-03-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
PJ,
I like Meg's Point trail shot the best.
Girl 'walking' the dog is amusing.
The stacked wood shot's link is missing - goes to Meg's Point.
Sorry the seals were gone.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:03 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Last weekend I went out to see if I could get a few shots of Harbor Seals at
 Hammonasset State Park.  There were seals all right but my 400mm lens is
 only f5.6 and with a tele extender it's a bit slow for the light conditions
 I faced, (heavy overcast), so after a few failed attempts I called it a day.
  Today it was bright and sunny so I trekked back to the park and, *there*
 *were* *no* *seals!*  However it was a beautiful day and there were lots of
 people so in the vein of live making lemonade when life gives you lemons, I
 wish to present.

 Hammonasset State Park; In search of Seals: A GESO.

 Page 1. The Jolly Green Giant's pickup stix.  Well really a couple of large,
 (tree trunk size) pieces of drift wood.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos1.html

 I couldn't decide if I like them better with the human figures for the
 exaggerated sense of scale or as a semi abstract so I did both.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos2.html

 The section of beach I was standing on was essentially made of shells...

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos3.html

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos4.html

 There were lots of people just taking in the sun, walking their dogs
 photographing each other and the scenery, with either smart phones or DSLRs
 nothing much in between.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos5.html

 Yes I know, I missed the focus on this one, but I was hurrying the shot, I
 thought the content was worth it.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos6.html

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos7.html

 I dragged my Vivitar 400mm f5.6 TX mount lens out looking to shoot pictures
 of Harbor Seals and I was going to use it for something

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos8.html

 A somewhat dramatic shot of the nature trail along Meigs Point.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos9.html

 These stacks of wood look like nothing so much to me as being set up as
 bonfires, not a smart thing to do in a state park/nature preserve...

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos9.html

 So no seals but I hope some interesting and maybe amusing photos.

 Equipment:  Pentax K20D w./smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm
 f3.8~5.6/smc Pentax 17mm Fisheye f4.0/Vivitar 400mm AutoTelephoto f5.6 TX
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PESO 2011 - 043 - GDG

2011-03-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Another Communicating series addition for your viewing pleasure:

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5522403913/lightbox/
or
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5522403913/

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Re: Laptop for minitor for the K-7

2011-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Beautiful girl, well captured by you. Nice work.
Paul
On Mar 13, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Jens wrote:

 
 Well, it seems that there was a Remote Assistant for the K20D. 
 That's good enough for me. The K20D is a very capable camera, quite capable 
 of making splendid studio recordings at ISO 100.
 I used it for this, which has a quite good image quality, regardless of the 
 fact, that I edited it in Portrait Professional later on:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5512893505/
 
 The K20D is a fine studio camera, some reviews even siad that the image 
 quality is better than the one of the K-7.
 I will give it a try with the remote assistant software provided with the 
 camera :-)
 
 Regards
 Jens
 
 
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 On Mar 13, 2011 13:56 Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
 Thanks Pete.
 I remeber reading something about some guys making attampts to design
 thrid party software for this kind of operation (tethering). 
 I don't know where or how I can get hold of this software. 
 What I really need is being able to store images on the fly to the
 laptop. I think the manual says I can do this :-)
 
 This is the most important thing to me.
 
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 On Mar 13, 2011 13:32 Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13 March 2011 23:10, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
 Hi list
 Does anyone know if I can use a Laptop as a monitor for the K-5,
 please.
 I remember the *ist D had this option if I instaled special
 software
 for this on my laptop. Can I do thsi with the K-5. And - in case
 it's a YAE, will I have to use Live View?
 
 
 One more question:
 Do I need all the formware updates, or will the 1.03 contain all
 previous updates?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Jens,
 
 You just need firmware 1.03. It is cumulative - also has 1.01 and
 1.02
 included.
 
 I don't remember the specifics, but I don't believe you can tether
 the
 K5 to a laptop.  There was some recent discussion (last 3-4 months)
 on
 this - before I bought mine, so I paid scant attention. The
 archives
 may cough it up if you search.
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: PESO Blues Angel

2011-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent shot. 

On Mar 13, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Ditto what Jack said.
 
 -bmw
 
 On 11-03-13 9:05 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 Spot on focus, composition and rendering, Larry.
 
 Jack
 
 --- On Sun, 3/13/11, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:
 
 From: Larry Colenl...@red4est.com
 Subject: PESO  Blues Angel
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 5:47 AM
 Tonight I had the silly idea of
 photographing musicians in a small club with the A* 200/2.8
 on the K-5
 ISO 3200  f/2.8  1/30
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5522610780/
 
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Re: PESO 2011 - 043 - GDG

2011-03-13 Thread Walter Gilbert
   Lovely shot, Godders.  The soft, warm tones really seem to 
complement the moment you caught.


-- Walt

On 3/13/2011 10:50 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Another Communicating series addition for your viewing pleasure:

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5522403913/lightbox/
or
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5522403913/

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Re: GESO -- Hammonasset State Park; In search of Seals

2011-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling

The corrected URL

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos10.html

Or you could just click the left arrow, though they you'd be missing my 
insightful commentary...



On 3/13/2011 10:49 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

PJ,
I like Meg's Point trail shot the best.
Girl 'walking' the dog is amusing.
The stacked wood shot's link is missing - goes to Meg's Point.
Sorry the seals were gone.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:03 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:

Last weekend I went out to see if I could get a few shots of Harbor Seals at
Hammonasset State Park.  There were seals all right but my 400mm lens is
only f5.6 and with a tele extender it's a bit slow for the light conditions
I faced, (heavy overcast), so after a few failed attempts I called it a day.
  Today it was bright and sunny so I trekked back to the park and, *there*
*were* *no* *seals!*  However it was a beautiful day and there were lots of
people so in the vein of live making lemonade when life gives you lemons, I
wish to present.

Hammonasset State Park; In search of Seals: A GESO.

Page 1. The Jolly Green Giant's pickup stix.  Well really a couple of large,
(tree trunk size) pieces of drift wood.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos1.html

I couldn't decide if I like them better with the human figures for the
exaggerated sense of scale or as a semi abstract so I did both.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos2.html

The section of beach I was standing on was essentially made of shells...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos3.html

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos4.html

There were lots of people just taking in the sun, walking their dogs
photographing each other and the scenery, with either smart phones or DSLRs
nothing much in between.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos5.html

Yes I know, I missed the focus on this one, but I was hurrying the shot, I
thought the content was worth it.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos6.html

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos7.html

I dragged my Vivitar 400mm f5.6 TX mount lens out looking to shoot pictures
of Harbor Seals and I was going to use it for something

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos8.html

A somewhat dramatic shot of the nature trail along Meigs Point.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos9.html

These stacks of wood look like nothing so much to me as being set up as
bonfires, not a smart thing to do in a state park/nature preserve...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/In%20search%20of%20seals/GESO%20--%20hspisos9.html

So no seals but I hope some interesting and maybe amusing photos.

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w./smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm
f3.8~5.6/smc Pentax 17mm Fisheye f4.0/Vivitar 400mm AutoTelephoto f5.6 TX
with K mount.

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Re: The myth of persistence

2011-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
IOW, in photography, one is, safe to say, striving to satisfy their own 
criteria as to what qualifies as good. The sense of gratitude and 
satisfaction one feels at meeting said criteria is enhanced by the amount of 
effort it too to achieve.
Frustration with the process simply implies impatience. 

Jack

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 From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: The myth of persistence
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 7:57 AM
 On 3/11/2011 8:52 AM, AlunFoto
 wrote:
  Interesting essay.
  On one hand he advocates not to persist at something
 you're not good
  at, in order to spend time doing things that brings
 you more sense of
  achiement. On the other hand, all his examples revolve
 around monetary
  reward as the sole gauge of achievement.
  
  Shoots his own logic in the foot, in my opinion.
  
  Jostein
 
 Jostein, are you trying to say that basically one has to
 have criteria for everything: how successful one is, does
 one enjoy doing whatever they are doing, how difficult it is
 to persevere on a given subject, is there any gain from
 persisting, etc.
 
 Looks a bit like an egg and a turkey kind of question. So,
 I take snow scenes pictures (well, I don't, but just to flow
 with the underlying motif) and it does not come out right.
 Do I have to keep taking them? Well, may be, if I know that
 throughout the year (provided, I am not living in one season
 over whole year climate zone) I take other pictures, say of
 similar grand motif, a.k.a. landscape and they turn out
 good. May be I just enjoy the process of shooting out in the
 cold snowy weather. They may not sell, I may delete them
 afterwards... Am I actually trying to compete face to face
 with well known and established artists of the genre?
 
 Or perhaps I am missing the point entirely here...
 
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Re: OT Hard drives

2011-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling
You can probably find them as cheaply in a more or less local store.   
But yes one of those, (which one I don't know I'd have to look at each 
description), will work.  There's also a multi-connector, which has a 
SATA PATA and Laptop PATA connector all going to a USB connector that 
usually only sells about $5.00.  If you don't plan to mount the drive 
permanently that might be the way to go.


Oh look, Amazon has them for 2.95.

http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Adapter-Converter-Optical-External/dp/B001OORMVQ

On 3/13/2011 10:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Will one of these work.??

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276554sku=ULT40112

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259603sku=M501-2500

The main web page:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=2777name=Hard-Drive-Enclosure

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Re: The myth of persistence

2011-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Mike often shoots himself in the foot.  I'm surprised he has a foot 
left, (or is that left foot...)


On 3/11/2011 1:52 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

Interesting essay.
On one hand he advocates not to persist at something you're not good
at, in order to spend time doing things that brings you more sense of
achiement. On the other hand, all his examples revolve around monetary
reward as the sole gauge of achievement.

Shoots his own logic in the foot, in my opinion.

Jostein


2011/3/11 Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com:

Mike Johnston on not feeling obligated to shoot (or try) *everything* ...

Ever since then, I've been suspicious of the idea of persistence. It's a
great, grand old American myth, of course: we're always telling ourselves
that persistence and perseverence are crucial to success. But many
people—including a few I could name—persist at failure. They keep trying,
all right. But they keep trying to do things they already should have
learned they're no good at.

http://goo.gl/PhVNd

One of Mike's best essays. He also admits to actually loving a cat once, and
taking a couple of cat pix.

-bmw


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Re: OT Hard drives

2011-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling

Correction $2.69.

On 3/13/2011 11:30 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
You can probably find them as cheaply in a more or less local store.   
But yes one of those, (which one I don't know I'd have to look at each 
description), will work.  There's also a multi-connector, which has a 
SATA PATA and Laptop PATA connector all going to a USB connector that 
usually only sells about $5.00.  If you don't plan to mount the drive 
permanently that might be the way to go.


Oh look, Amazon has them for 2.95.

http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Adapter-Converter-Optical-External/dp/B001OORMVQ 



On 3/13/2011 10:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Will one of these work.??

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276554sku=ULT40112 



http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259603sku=M501-2500 



The main web page:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=2777name=Hard-Drive-Enclosure 



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Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread Eric Weir

I think I've asked this question before, but can't find the responses. The top 
level of my image files is by year. Below that are folders by date with a 
descriptive phrase appended. When I import LR creates *another* directory for 
the year and then imports images by dates into this folder. When the import is 
finished I then have to move the folders created in the import out of this 
folder into *my* folder for the year.

Why is LR doing this? How can I get it to stop, i.e., to just import by date 
into the folder I indicate without creating another folder?

Thanks 
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Re: OT Hard drives

2011-03-13 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Yikes!  That is a good deal!

I like having the enclosure for the sake of portability of the hard 
drive.  But, yes ... if you're just going to pull the files off the 
drive and not use it anymore: (1) just order that connector, and (2) can 
I have your old drive?  ;-)


-- Walt



On 3/13/2011 11:31 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Correction $2.69.

On 3/13/2011 11:30 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
You can probably find them as cheaply in a more or less local 
store.   But yes one of those, (which one I don't know I'd have to 
look at each description), will work.  There's also a 
multi-connector, which has a SATA PATA and Laptop PATA connector all 
going to a USB connector that usually only sells about $5.00.  If you 
don't plan to mount the drive permanently that might be the way to go.


Oh look, Amazon has them for 2.95.

http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Adapter-Converter-Optical-External/dp/B001OORMVQ 



On 3/13/2011 10:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Will one of these work.??

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276554sku=ULT40112 



http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259603sku=M501-2500 



The main web page:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=2777name=Hard-Drive-Enclosure 



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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling

On 3/13/2011 5:25 AM, Bob W wrote:

On 3/13/2011 11:28 AM, Bob W wrote:

What is a short-term fatality? Is it anything to do with the approach

of

Easter?

B

May be it has to do with radiation sickness??? When the effect, such as
cancer or even mutations of the children of those affected by the
radiation are not immediate (as in 'short-term').


a fatality is a death. A short-term fatality is therefore a short-term
death. I've always been under the impression that death was one of those
long-term things.

It's a sloppily-written article that hasn't been well edited either.

B
I think the word they were looking for but failed utterly to find, was 
/immediate/ .  But immediate death is such an awful phrase to use that 
well a* euphemism seemed to be called for and the author chose poorly...


*Yes, proper English would have called for an euphemism, but that just 
sounds wrong to my ear.


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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Possibly near-term as opposed to latent.

-- Walt

On 3/13/2011 11:40 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 3/13/2011 5:25 AM, Bob W wrote:

On 3/13/2011 11:28 AM, Bob W wrote:

What is a short-term fatality? Is it anything to do with the approach

of

Easter?

B

May be it has to do with radiation sickness??? When the effect, such as
cancer or even mutations of the children of those affected by the
radiation are not immediate (as in 'short-term').


a fatality is a death. A short-term fatality is therefore a short-term
death. I've always been under the impression that death was one of those
long-term things.

It's a sloppily-written article that hasn't been well edited either.

B
I think the word they were looking for but failed utterly to find, was 
/immediate/ .  But immediate death is such an awful phrase to use 
that well a* euphemism seemed to be called for and the author chose 
poorly...


*Yes, proper English would have called for an euphemism, but that 
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Re: Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread David Parsons
Lightroom 2 or 3?

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I think I've asked this question before, but can't find the responses. The 
 top level of my image files is by year. Below that are folders by date with a 
 descriptive phrase appended. When I import LR creates *another* directory for 
 the year and then imports images by dates into this folder. When the import 
 is finished I then have to move the folders created in the import out of this 
 folder into *my* folder for the year.

 Why is LR doing this? How can I get it to stop, i.e., to just import by date 
 into the folder I indicate without creating another folder?

 Thanks
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Re: OT: This is totally creepy

2011-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling

That is certainly something you shouldn't contemplate.

On 3/13/2011 7:12 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:12 AM, William Robb
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http://www.livescience.com/5631-zombie-ants-controlled-fungus.html
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I'd hate to see your favorites list.:-)

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Re: Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's very important that you look carefully at what Lightroom's import
dialog is telling you. Look at
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/lr-import.jpg ...

- On the left panel, you see the source location. Note the light band
highlighting Imported on March 12, 2011 which ends with a pointer to
the content window '' ... this is telling you what you've selected
for Lightroom to import.

- At the top, notice that Copy is highlighted ... LR will import
these files and make a copy of them to a destination for you.

- On the right, notice the big pointer, another  arrow, indicating
the 'Desktop' folder as the destination. Notice also that I've elected
to move them organized by date using the date format mmdd, and
that into subfolder is NOT checked. This means that LR will create a
dated subfolder and put the 80 image files into it under Desktop. If I
check the Into Subfolder option and gave it a name for a new
subfolder, it would create the new subfolder under Desktop and THEN
create new data-named subfolders under that. If you change the
organize mode, it will change how it creates the destination you want
to put them.

For my normal import, I have the organize by date with this date
format selected. Into subfolder is un-checked. I select the year as
the top level folder, Lightroom creates the day by day subfolders
under that year as desired with every import.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I think I've asked this question before, but can't find the responses. The 
 top level of my image files is by year. Below that are folders by date with a 
 descriptive phrase appended. When I import LR creates *another* directory for 
 the year and then imports images by dates into this folder. When the import 
 is finished I then have to move the folders created in the import out of this 
 folder into *my* folder for the year.

 Why is LR doing this? How can I get it to stop, i.e., to just import by date 
 into the folder I indicate without creating another folder?

 Thanks
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Re: Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread Tim Bray
I don't like where Lightroom puts the imports, so on the Mac I use
Image Capture to copy the raw pix of the camera into the place I want
them.  I assume there must be something equivalent on Windows.  Then I
get Lightroom to import them in-place.

As to how you organize your pictures into folders, that's something
that's shockingly personal and shouldn't be brought up at all, or
it'll develop into a  300-message PDML thread. -T

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I think I've asked this question before, but can't find the responses. The 
 top level of my image files is by year. Below that are folders by date with a 
 descriptive phrase appended. When I import LR creates *another* directory for 
 the year and then imports images by dates into this folder. When the import 
 is finished I then have to move the folders created in the import out of this 
 folder into *my* folder for the year.

 Why is LR doing this? How can I get it to stop, i.e., to just import by date 
 into the folder I indicate without creating another folder?

 Thanks
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Re: OT: This is totally creepy

2011-03-13 Thread AlunFoto
Interesting.
Not the only parasite that invades ant brains, though. Consider the
Lancet Liver Fluke that infects sheep and other grazing livestock. It
has a small ant as intermediate host, which is manipulated into
walking away from its colony and clutch itself to the top of a straw.
This increase the likelihood of the ant being munched by grazing
livestock. :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicrocoelium_dendriticum

Jostein

2011/3/13 William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com:
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Re: Laptop for minitor for the K-7

2011-03-13 Thread Paul Sorenson
An Eye-Fi card with a laptop and wireless router should handle the image 
transfer for you.


http://www.eye.fi/products/connectx2

Lightroom 2 or LR3 along with this plug-in should put the image on the 
screen for viewing.


http://www.eye.fi/lightroom

http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/folder-watch

-p


On 3/13/2011 8:28 AM, Jens wrote:

Well, it seems that there was a Remote Assistant for the K20D.
That's good enough for me. The K20D is a very capable camera, quite capable of 
making splendid studio recordings at ISO 100.
I used it for this, which has a quite good image quality, regardless of the 
fact, that I edited it in Portrait Professional later on:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5512893505/

The K20D is a fine studio camera, some reviews even siad that the image quality 
is better than the one of the K-7.
I will give it a try with the remote assistant software provided with the 
camera :-)

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Re: OT Hard drives

2011-03-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yikes!  That is a good deal!

 I like having the enclosure for the sake of portability of the hard drive.
  But, yes ... if you're just going to pull the files off the drive and not
 use it anymore: (1) just order that connector, and (2) can I have your old
 drive?  ;-)

 -- Walt

Went over to the local Staples store just now and picked up an
acomdata case for the drive. it takes PATA or SATA so i picked it up.

It works, i found the missing files i forgot to copy over to my other
external hard drives so i'm good. Saves some extra scanning down the
road.

$34.99 which was the cheaper of the two.

Dave



 On 3/13/2011 11:31 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Correction $2.69.

 On 3/13/2011 11:30 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 You can probably find them as cheaply in a more or less local store.
 But yes one of those, (which one I don't know I'd have to look at each
 description), will work.  There's also a multi-connector, which has a SATA
 PATA and Laptop PATA connector all going to a USB connector that usually
 only sells about $5.00.  If you don't plan to mount the drive permanently
 that might be the way to go.

 Oh look, Amazon has them for 2.95.


 http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Adapter-Converter-Optical-External/dp/B001OORMVQ

 On 3/13/2011 10:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Will one of these work.??


 http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276554sku=ULT40112


 http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259603sku=M501-2500

 The main web page:


 http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=2777name=Hard-Drive-Enclosure

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Re: The myth of persistence

2011-03-13 Thread AlunFoto
2011/3/13 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
 On 3/11/2011 8:52 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 Interesting essay.
 On one hand he advocates not to persist at something you're not good
 at, in order to spend time doing things that brings you more sense of
 achiement. On the other hand, all his examples revolve around monetary
 reward as the sole gauge of achievement.

 Shoots his own logic in the foot, in my opinion.

 Jostein

 Jostein, are you trying to say that basically one has to have criteria for
 everything

No.

 Looks a bit like an egg and a turkey kind of question. So, I take snow
 scenes pictures (well, I don't, but just to flow with the underlying motif)
 and it does not come out right. Do I have to keep taking them?

No.

 Well, may be,
 if I know that throughout the year (provided, I am not living in one season
 over whole year climate zone) I take other pictures, say of similar grand
 motif, a.k.a. landscape and they turn out good. May be I just enjoy the
 process of shooting out in the cold snowy weather.

Exactly.

 They may not sell, I may
 delete them afterwards... Am I actually trying to compete face to face with
 well known and established artists of the genre?

No.

 Or perhaps I am missing the point entirely here...

With that kind of argumentation, I'd say you stopped just short of
repeating my point. :-)

Jostein


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Re: OT Hard drives

2011-03-13 Thread Paul Sorenson
The first one will work.  It has connection cables for both SATA and 
PATA.  I have one of these and it's saved my bacon a couple times.  The 
second one won't work as it's designed for SATA.  The info you posted 
about your drive said it was PATA.


-p

On 3/13/2011 10:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Will one of these work.??

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276554sku=ULT40112

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259603sku=M501-2500

The main web page:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=2777name=Hard-Drive-Enclosure

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Re: OT Hard drives

2011-03-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:30 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can probably find them as cheaply in a more or less local store.   But
 yes one of those, (which one I don't know I'd have to look at each
 description), will work.  There's also a multi-connector, which has a SATA
 PATA and Laptop PATA connector all going to a USB connector that usually
 only sells about $5.00.  If you don't plan to mount the drive permanently
 that might be the way to go.

 Oh look, Amazon has them for 2.95.

 http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Adapter-Converter-Optical-External/dp/B001OORMVQ

Local Tiger Direct has them for $24.00, (so much for our  at par
eh) but i found a case for the drive for $34.00 closer to home.

Thanks everyone for the input.

Dave

 On 3/13/2011 10:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Will one of these work.??


 http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276554sku=ULT40112


 http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259603sku=M501-2500

 The main web page:


 http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=2777name=Hard-Drive-Enclosure

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Re: Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread Eric Weir

On Mar 13, 2011, at 12:56 PM, David Parsons wrote:

 Lightroom 2 or 3?

Sorry. Three.

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Re: Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 I don't like where Lightroom puts the imports, so on the Mac I use
 Image Capture to copy the raw pix of the camera into the place I want
 them.  I assume there must be something equivalent on Windows.  Then I
 get Lightroom to import them in-place.

Lightroom will put the photographs precisely where you tell it to.
What you're saying is that you don't like to use its mechanism to do
so, or don't understand how to tell it to do what you want. No matter
really, but let's be precise.

I don't know why you'd use Image Capture to move the files from your
card to the computer file system. Just drag and drop them to the
location you want if you want to do it yourself ... It's faster and
easier IMO.
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PESO/GESO? In any case, soccer at McLendon

2011-03-13 Thread Eric Weir

With a bit of trepidation I'm sharing a few photos taken at the site of one of 
our afterschool soccer programs on Friday. I don't make any claims for their 
aesthetic merit. I'm pleased that I managed moderately decent focus in an 
action setting using manual focus. 

*ist DS and an A50mm/2.0.

Album
https://picasaweb.google.com/103420210337495775480/SoccerAtMclendon?authkey=Gv1sRgCIjm3fDkgurbxQE#

Slideshow
https://picasaweb.google.com/103420210337495775480/SoccerAtMclendon?authkey=Gv1sRgCIjm3fDkgurbxQE#slideshow/5583621300515263826

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Re: PESO/GESO? In any case, soccer at McLendon

2011-03-13 Thread Walter Gilbert
 No need to be apologetic, Eric.  You caught some great action here. 
  Nicely done!


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On 3/13/2011 12:59 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

With a bit of trepidation I'm sharing a few photos taken at the site of one of 
our afterschool soccer programs on Friday. I don't make any claims for their 
aesthetic merit. I'm pleased that I managed moderately decent focus in an 
action setting using manual focus.

*ist DS and an A50mm/2.0.

Album
https://picasaweb.google.com/103420210337495775480/SoccerAtMclendon?authkey=Gv1sRgCIjm3fDkgurbxQE#

Slideshow
https://picasaweb.google.com/103420210337495775480/SoccerAtMclendon?authkey=Gv1sRgCIjm3fDkgurbxQE#slideshow/5583621300515263826

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Re: Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread Eric Weir

Thanks, Godfrey. I'm on the run, but this is what I was looking for. I'll 
digest it later and report back.  

On Mar 13, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 It's very important that you look carefully at what Lightroom's import
 dialog is telling you. Look at
 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/lr-import.jpg ...
 
 - On the left panel, you see the source location. Note the light band
 highlighting Imported on March 12, 2011 which ends with a pointer to
 the content window '' ... this is telling you what you've selected
 for Lightroom to import.
 
 - At the top, notice that Copy is highlighted ... LR will import
 these files and make a copy of them to a destination for you.
 
 - On the right, notice the big pointer, another  arrow, indicating
 the 'Desktop' folder as the destination. Notice also that I've elected
 to move them organized by date using the date format mmdd, and
 that into subfolder is NOT checked. This means that LR will create a
 dated subfolder and put the 80 image files into it under Desktop. If I
 check the Into Subfolder option and gave it a name for a new
 subfolder, it would create the new subfolder under Desktop and THEN
 create new data-named subfolders under that. If you change the
 organize mode, it will change how it creates the destination you want
 to put them.
 
 For my normal import, I have the organize by date with this date
 format selected. Into subfolder is un-checked. I select the year as
 the top level folder, Lightroom creates the day by day subfolders
 under that year as desired with every import.
 
 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 I think I've asked this question before, but can't find the responses. The 
 top level of my image files is by year. Below that are folders by date with 
 a descriptive phrase appended. When I import LR creates *another* directory 
 for the year and then imports images by dates into this folder. When the 
 import is finished I then have to move the folders created in the import out 
 of this folder into *my* folder for the year.
 
 Why is LR doing this? How can I get it to stop, i.e., to just import by date 
 into the folder I indicate without creating another folder?
 
 Thanks
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Re: The myth of persistence

2011-03-13 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: The myth of persistence


IOW, in photography, one is, safe to say, striving to satisfy their own 
criteria as to what qualifies as good. The sense of gratitude and 
satisfaction one feels at meeting said criteria is enhanced by the amount 
of effort it too to achieve.



While we all march to our own drum, I've benefitted tremendously by having 
what I think are my best images critiqued by professional outdoor 
photographers. Sometimes a humbling experience but over the years it has had 
a very beneficial impact on my images.




Frustration with the process simply implies impatience.

Jack

--- On Sun, 3/13/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: The myth of persistence
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 7:57 AM
On 3/11/2011 8:52 AM, AlunFoto
wrote:
 Interesting essay.
 On one hand he advocates not to persist at something
you're not good
 at, in order to spend time doing things that brings
you more sense of
 achiement. On the other hand, all his examples revolve
around monetary
 reward as the sole gauge of achievement.

 Shoots his own logic in the foot, in my opinion.

 Jostein

Jostein, are you trying to say that basically one has to
have criteria for everything: how successful one is, does
one enjoy doing whatever they are doing, how difficult it is
to persevere on a given subject, is there any gain from
persisting, etc.

Looks a bit like an egg and a turkey kind of question. So,
I take snow scenes pictures (well, I don't, but just to flow
with the underlying motif) and it does not come out right.
Do I have to keep taking them? Well, may be, if I know that
throughout the year (provided, I am not living in one season
over whole year climate zone) I take other pictures, say of
similar grand motif, a.k.a. landscape and they turn out
good. May be I just enjoy the process of shooting out in the
cold snowy weather. They may not sell, I may delete them
afterwards... Am I actually trying to compete face to face
with well known and established artists of the genre?

Or perhaps I am missing the point entirely here...

Boris



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Remarkably On-Topic

2011-03-13 Thread Walter Gilbert
 I was just listening to this tune (one of my favorite Beatles songs of 
all time, BTW) and just happened to glance up at the screen right about 
the 1:55  mark.


The Beatles - This Boy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY-BzepTXkA

Do check it out.  I think y'all will be amused.

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Re: OT How NOT to photograph the Stanley Cup with a Leica M6.

2011-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling

On 3/12/2011 8:27 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 11/03/2011 17:57, David J Brooks wrote:
http://www.petapixel.com/2011/03/10/how-not-to-photograph-the-stanley-cup-with-a-leica-m6/ 



This guy is really doomed, he shoots Nikon as well:-)


Least of his problems.  Who do you think dressed him that morning?


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Re: The myth of persistence

2011-03-13 Thread Boris Liberman
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 With that kind of argumentation, I'd say you stopped just short of
 repeating my point. :-)

 Jostein

Fortunately I was quoting the original (a.k.a. you) therefore the
phone wasn't entirely broken.


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Re: Remarkably On-Topic

2011-03-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
Further evidence the Beatles must have been Pentaxians:

http://zavali-gorizont.livejournal.com/2354.html

:)
-c

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
  I was just listening to this tune (one of my favorite Beatles songs of all
 time, BTW) and just happened to glance up at the screen right about the 1:55
  mark.

 The Beatles - This Boy

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY-BzepTXkA

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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread John Francis

That's what I read it to mean.

I think all this angst about a poor choice of words obscures the message.
Concentrate on the underlying story, not the way it is being told.


On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 08:52:02AM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
 I think short term fatality means you die fairly quickly, like when
 you are in a collapsing building.  This is distinguished from the
 cancer/leukemia/enhanced heath risks that can be caused from exposure
 to radiation.  Radiation may shorten your life by 10-20 years, but
 falling bricks will end it quickly.  I think this is the distinction
 he is making.
 
 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
  On 13/03/2011 10:43, mike wilson wrote:
 
  The plants look decidedly different on Googly earth, compared to the
  pictures on the BBC website. Only one chimney stack, for starters. Of
  course, the only photo available is:
  http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/23556015.jpg
 
 
  My mistake: there are at least three nuclear plants on that coast plus at
  least one coal fired one. ?I found the big bang one. ?Anyone know how to
  capture coordinates from GE?
 
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RE: Remarkably On-Topic

2011-03-13 Thread Jeffery Johnson
LOL I cheated and sled it over to the 1:50 mark and yes it is rather on
topic...

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  I was just listening to this tune (one of my favorite Beatles songs of all
time, BTW) and just happened to glance up at the screen right about the 1:55
mark.

The Beatles - This Boy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY-BzepTXkA

Do check it out.  I think y'all will be amused.

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Re: Remarkably On-Topic

2011-03-13 Thread Walter Gilbert

   Well, it doesn't get much more conclusive than that, does it?  :-)

How great is that?

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On 3/13/2011 1:50 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

Further evidence the Beatles must have been Pentaxians:

http://zavali-gorizont.livejournal.com/2354.html

:)
-c

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  I was just listening to this tune (one of my favorite Beatles songs of all
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  mark.

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Re: Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread Tim Bray
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lightroom will put the photographs precisely where you tell it to.
  ...
 I don't know why you'd use Image Capture to move the files from your
 card to the computer file system. Just drag and drop them to the
 location you want if you want to do it yourself ... It's faster and
 easier IMO.

It turns out that some cameras distribute the pix on-camera into
folders, per-day or per-week or whatever.  Image Capture is handy
because it goes and pokes around and comes back with a list of all the
photos on the device, and remembers which ones it downloaded.

Hm, thanks for the news about Lightroom.  Last time I tried to use it
for import was back in the Lightroom 1 days, and I was having a hard
time keeping it from sorting the pictures into folders based on its
own opinions.

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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:56:53AM +0100, eckinator wrote:
 2011/3/13 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 
  This is the paragraph that puzzles me:
  To keep things in perspective, no nuclear accident has caused anything
  approaching the 1,000 short-term fatalities stemming from Friday's
  earthquake and tsunami. 
 
 that is so disgustingly cynical. if you care to know what severe
 nuclear contamination does, point your google fu to fallujah depleted
 uranium - the faint hearted may not want to do an image search...
 makes you wonder what payroll the author is on...

Really?   Should we also wonder if you are on the payroll of a coal or oil
company, because you produce a one-sided condemnation of nuclear power?


You might want to take a look at a short science fiction story from 1954,
On the Feasibility of Coal Driven Power Stations, written by O.R. Frisch.

That might put some things into perspective.


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Re: K-5 firmware v1.03

2011-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling

On 3/10/2011 10:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: eckinator

2011/3/11 Bob W p...@web-options.com:


 one step forward, two steps back.

reminds me of Paula Abdul - she was quite the babe back then. need to
look up what's become of her...




I think she had a TV show for a while ... or was a regular guest on a 
TV show.


She was a Judge on one of the American Idol.  She still looks hot,  but 
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Re: Re: Re: Laptop for minitor for the K-7

2011-03-13 Thread eckinator
there was a newer version of that released in the days of the K-7 so
you may want to check Pentax Japan's download area!
hth ecke

2011/3/13 Jens p...@planfoto.dk:

 Well, it seems that there was a Remote Assistant for the K20D.
 That's good enough for me. The K20D is a very capable camera, quite capable 
 of making splendid studio recordings at ISO 100.
 I used it for this, which has a quite good image quality, regardless of the 
 fact, that I edited it in Portrait Professional later on:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5512893505/

 The K20D is a fine studio camera, some reviews even siad that the image 
 quality is better than the one of the K-7.
 I will give it a try with the remote assistant software provided with the 
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 On Mar 13, 2011 13:56 Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
 Thanks Pete.
 I remeber reading something about some guys making attampts to design
 thrid party software for this kind of operation (tethering).
 I don't know where or how I can get hold of this software.
 What I really need is being able to store images on the fly to the
 laptop. I think the manual says I can do this :-)

 This is the most important thing to me.

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 On Mar 13, 2011 13:32 Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 13 March 2011 23:10, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:
   Hi list
   Does anyone know if I can use a Laptop as a monitor for the K-5,
   please.
   I remember the *ist D had this option if I instaled special
   software
   for this on my laptop. Can I do thsi with the K-5. And - in case
   it's a YAE, will I have to use Live View?
  
  
   One more question:
   Do I need all the formware updates, or will the 1.03 contain all
   previous updates?
  
   Thanks in advance.
 
  Jens,
 
  You just need firmware 1.03. It is cumulative - also has 1.01 and
  1.02
  included.
 
  I don't remember the specifics, but I don't believe you can tether
  the
  K5 to a laptop.  There was some recent discussion (last 3-4 months)
  on
  this - before I bought mine, so I paid scant attention. The
  archives
  may cough it up if you search.
 
  Regards,
 
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Re: Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread David Parsons
Lightroom does that as well.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:

 It turns out that some cameras distribute the pix on-camera into
 folders, per-day or per-week or whatever.  Image Capture is handy
 because it goes and pokes around and comes back with a list of all the
 photos on the device, and remembers which ones it downloaded.

 Hm, thanks for the news about Lightroom.  Last time I tried to use it
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 time keeping it from sorting the pictures into folders based on its
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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread eckinator
2011/3/13 John Francis jo...@panix.com:

 that is so disgustingly cynical. if you care to know what severe
 nuclear contamination does, point your google fu to fallujah depleted
 uranium - the faint hearted may not want to do an image search...
 makes you wonder what payroll the author is on...

 Really?   Should we also wonder if you are on the payroll of a coal or oil
 company, because you produce a one-sided condemnation of nuclear power?

John, IMO it is a valid question to ask - almost all media pursue a
political agenda of some kind and almost all political powers try to
control the media in some way, either by ownership or other
direct/indirect influence or by censorship.

my statement on the other hand was an expression of my disbelief of
the statement quoted and my puzzlement at what the author was trying
to say. I'm still not sure but the impression on me is he is trying to
make it look not all that bad... what would be the point of that? I
can't think of anything else but to convince people that nuclear
contamination to the point of potentially causing 200K+ people to lose
their homes isn't such a big deal. but I am open to another
explanation if you feel I misread that paragraph.

but there was nothing in my statement to make oil or coal look better.
I prefer sustainable energy and I even more prefer reducing my
consumption.

 You might want to take a look at a short science fiction story from 1954,
 On the Feasibility of Coal Driven Power Stations, written by O.R. Frisch.

 That might put some things into perspective.

I will. Even though I am not a coal man at all.

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RE: Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread Bob W
 
 It turns out that some cameras distribute the pix on-camera into
 folders, per-day or per-week or whatever.  Image Capture is handy
 because it goes and pokes around and comes back with a list of all the
 photos on the device, and remembers which ones it downloaded.
 
 Hm, thanks for the news about Lightroom.  Last time I tried to use it
 for import was back in the Lightroom 1 days, and I was having a hard
 time keeping it from sorting the pictures into folders based on its
 own opinions.
 
  -Tim

I've been using LR since the betas, and never had that problem. It's always
done exactly what I want, in the way I want it, which is why I like it so
much. I've never noticed that it has opinions - it does what I tell it to do
and keeps its mouth shut, like a good butler. Perhaps it spends its free
time reading Spinoza, but I don't get to hear about it.

B


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Re: Sorry about that

2011-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling

I was busy and didn't notice a thing.

On 3/10/2011 6:08 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
My bad. I got things fouled up on my end, but we're back up and 
running again.


Carry on.

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RE: K-5 firmware v1.03

2011-03-13 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 P. J. Alling


 She still looks hot,  but
 then she can afford the best plastic surgeons,

Contradiction in terms.

Women who have better things to do with their money than spend it on beauty
treatments are usually the most beautiful, in all sorts of ways, and for all
sorts of reasons.

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RE: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread Bob W
 That's what I read it to mean.
 
 I think all this angst about a poor choice of words obscures the
 message.
 Concentrate on the underlying story, not the way it is being told.
 

it's not possible. When the choice of words obscures the message you can
only guess at what the message is. Journalists are paid to write clearly.
When they don't they deserve criticism.

B 


 
 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 08:52:02AM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
  I think short term fatality means you die fairly quickly, like when
  you are in a collapsing building.  This is distinguished from the
  cancer/leukemia/enhanced heath risks that can be caused from exposure
  to radiation.  Radiation may shorten your life by 10-20 years, but
  falling bricks will end it quickly.  I think this is the distinction
  he is making.
 
  On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:02 AM, mike wilson
 m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
   On 13/03/2011 10:43, mike wilson wrote:
  
   The plants look decidedly different on Googly earth, compared to
 the
   pictures on the BBC website. Only one chimney stack, for starters.
 Of
   course, the only photo available is:
   http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/23556015.jpg
  
  
   My mistake: there are at least three nuclear plants on that coast
 plus at
   least one coal fired one. ?I found the big bang one. ?Anyone know
 how to
   capture coordinates from GE?
  
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RE: PESO 2011 - 043 - GDG

2011-03-13 Thread Bob W
 Another Communicating series addition for your viewing pleasure:
 
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5522403913/lightbox/
 or
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5522403913/
 

excellent - reminds me a lot Martin Parr's Bored Couples:

http://tinyurl.com/mparrcouples

Or, give your recipients confidence with a preview TinyURL:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mparrcouples

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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 08:27:28PM +0100, eckinator wrote:
 2011/3/13 John Francis jo...@panix.com:
 
  that is so disgustingly cynical. if you care to know what severe
  nuclear contamination does, point your google fu to fallujah depleted
  uranium - the faint hearted may not want to do an image search...
  makes you wonder what payroll the author is on...
 
  Really? ? Should we also wonder if you are on the payroll of a coal or oil
  company, because you produce a one-sided condemnation of nuclear power?
 
 John, IMO it is a valid question to ask - almost all media pursue a
 political agenda of some kind and almost all political powers try to
 control the media in some way, either by ownership or other
 direct/indirect influence or by censorship.
 
 my statement on the other hand was an expression of my disbelief of
 the statement quoted and my puzzlement at what the author was trying
 to say. I'm still not sure but the impression on me is he is trying to
 make it look not all that bad... what would be the point of that? I
 can't think of anything else but to convince people that nuclear
 contamination to the point of potentially causing 200K+ people to lose
 their homes isn't such a big deal. but I am open to another
 explanation if you feel I misread that paragraph.

Try reading that part of the argument as saying:

Don't lose perspective.  There's a whole lot more disruption and
death caused by other aspects of these natural disasters;
focussing too much attention on the nuclear power plant will
only cause attention to shift from more pressing problems.

I'm not sure that's the whole message (or even part of the message)
that the author was trying to push.  But I think it's at least as
plausible a reading as shifting blame away from nuclear power.

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Re: Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 I don't know why you'd use Image Capture to move the files from your
 card to the computer file system. Just drag and drop them to the
 location you want if you want to do it yourself ... It's faster and
 easier IMO.

 It turns out that some cameras distribute the pix on-camera into
 folders, per-day or per-week or whatever.  Image Capture is handy
 because it goes and pokes around and comes back with a list of all the
 photos on the device, and remembers which ones it downloaded.

That's a perfect reason to let Lightroom do this job for you ...
That's exactly what it does, you just have to tell it where you want
to put the data correctly. ;-)

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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread eckinator
2011/3/13 John Francis jo...@panix.com:

 Try reading that part of the argument as saying:

    Don't lose perspective.  There's a whole lot more disruption and
    death caused by other aspects of these natural disasters;
    focussing too much attention on the nuclear power plant will
    only cause attention to shift from more pressing problems.

 I'm not sure that's the whole message (or even part of the message)
 that the author was trying to push.  But I think it's at least as
 plausible a reading as shifting blame away from nuclear power.

OK I'm prepared to blame that on my being a non native speaker but I
fail to read any of that in the paragraph - how do others feel about
this? And does being that ambivalent/ambiguous make it poor writing?
Thanks
Ecke

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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread David Mann
On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:02 PM, mike wilson wrote:

 My mistake: there are at least three nuclear plants on that coast plus at 
 least one coal fired one.  I found the big bang one.  Anyone know how to 
 capture coordinates from GE?

Yes.  It's a pain in the arse.  There may be sites out there that allow you to 
do it easily.  I've been thinking of writing a simple javascript page to do so 
myself because I need to get coordinates quite often.

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Re: Failed enablement

2011-03-13 Thread Larry Colen
The best price I found was prodigital $2000 which has it intermittently for US 
$1319, their canada store also had it for CA $1319, which was a about US $1360. 
 Now that I have mine, expect a major price drop from BH in about two weeks.
On Mar 12, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

 I guess that would be disablement.
 
 Grmf, the K-5 price tracker at
 http://www.photoprice.ca/price-drops/p=03308 said the body was under
 C$1500 at Broadway Camera and there's one of those in the mall the
 family hit today.  At that point I'm probably willing to pull the
 trigger.
 
 But the sign said $1529 and no matter how many times I told the guy
 the Internet said he was selling it for $50 less, he wouldn't move.
 Don't these people know that if it's on the Internet it must be true?
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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread mike wilson

On 13/03/2011 22:39, David Mann wrote:

On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:02 PM, mike wilson wrote:


My mistake: there are at least three nuclear plants on that coast plus at least 
one coal fired one.  I found the big bang one.  Anyone know how to capture 
coordinates from GE?


Yes.  It's a pain in the arse.


In that case, I'll pass.


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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't know, Bob. I've been considering whether to take a year off
dead for tax purposes.

Of course, seeing me taxables for 2010, I might as well have.

On Sunday, March 13, 2011, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 On 3/13/2011 11:28 AM, Bob W wrote:
  What is a short-term fatality? Is it anything to do with the approach
 of
  Easter?
 
  B

 May be it has to do with radiation sickness??? When the effect, such as
 cancer or even mutations of the children of those affected by the
 radiation are not immediate (as in 'short-term').


 a fatality is a death. A short-term fatality is therefore a short-term
 death. I've always been under the impression that death was one of those
 long-term things.

 It's a sloppily-written article that hasn't been well edited either.

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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 March 2011 08:39, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote:
 On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:02 PM, mike wilson wrote:

 My mistake: there are at least three nuclear plants on that coast plus at 
 least one coal fired one.  I found the big bang one.  Anyone know how to 
 capture coordinates from GE?

 Yes.  It's a pain in the arse.  There may be sites out there that allow you 
 to do it easily.  I've been thinking of writing a simple javascript page to 
 do so myself because I need to get coordinates quite often.

Google earth coordinates are generally displayed at the base of the
map and CLRL+shift+C will copy coordinates to the clipboard. If that;s
too hard drop a place-mark and copy the coordinates from that or if
all else fails open the map on-line in Google maps CTLR+alt+M and then
on the web page right click and select what's here from the menu, the
coordinates will then appear in the search window.

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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread mike wilson

On 13/03/2011 21:35, eckinator wrote:

2011/3/13 John Francisjo...@panix.com:


Try reading that part of the argument as saying:

Don't lose perspective.  There's a whole lot more disruption and
death caused by other aspects of these natural disasters;
focussing too much attention on the nuclear power plant will
only cause attention to shift from more pressing problems.

I'm not sure that's the whole message (or even part of the message)
that the author was trying to push.  But I think it's at least as
plausible a reading as shifting blame away from nuclear power.


OK I'm prepared to blame that on my being a non native speaker but I
fail to read any of that in the paragraph - how do others feel about
this? And does being that ambivalent/ambiguous make it poor writing?
Thanks
Ecke



I'm with Bob in that the article is so ambiguous as well as riddled with 
inaccuracies that it is not possible to divine the intentions of the 
writer.  Which should have been to merely provide clear and precise 
information.


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Re: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread mike wilson

On 13/03/2011 23:17, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 14 March 2011 08:39, David Mannd...@multisport.net.nz  wrote:

On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:02 PM, mike wilson wrote:


My mistake: there are at least three nuclear plants on that coast plus at least 
one coal fired one.  I found the big bang one.  Anyone know how to capture 
coordinates from GE?


Yes.  It's a pain in the arse.  There may be sites out there that allow you to 
do it easily.  I've been thinking of writing a simple javascript page to do so 
myself because I need to get coordinates quite often.


Google earth coordinates are generally displayed at the base of the
map and CLRL+shift+C will copy coordinates to the clipboard. If that;s
too hard drop a place-mark and copy the coordinates from that or if
all else fails open the map on-line in Google maps CTLR+alt+M and then
on the web page right click and select what's here from the menu, the
coordinates will then appear in the search window.




Control+shift+C doesn't work.

Didn't want to pin it but started the process and cped from the box.

 37°25'24.80N 141° 1'59.50E

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RE: Japan

2011-03-13 Thread Bob W


 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 mike wilson
 Sent: 13 March 2011 21:14
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Japan
 
 On 13/03/2011 22:39, David Mann wrote:
  On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:02 PM, mike wilson wrote:
 
  My mistake: there are at least three nuclear plants on that coast
 plus at least one coal fired one.  I found the big bang one.  Anyone
 know how to capture coordinates from GE?
 
  Yes.  It's a pain in the arse.
 
 In that case, I'll pass.

not entirely sure what you're after, but you can get waypoints and so on
from gmaps-pedometer, which doesn't measure how much of a pedo you are, but
helps plot routes. You can download them as text files which I think use UTM
coordinates.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/

B




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PAW62 - Harbor

2011-03-13 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
K-5, DA15mm, 1/13s, f/4.0, ISO200 


DagT
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Re: PESO/GESO? In any case, soccer at McLendon

2011-03-13 Thread Eric Weir

Thanks, Walter.

On Mar 13, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

 No need to be apologetic, Eric.  You caught some great action here.   Nicely 
 done!
 
 -- Walt
 
 On 3/13/2011 12:59 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
 With a bit of trepidation I'm sharing a few photos taken at the site of one 
 of our afterschool soccer programs on Friday. I don't make any claims for 
 their aesthetic merit. I'm pleased that I managed moderately decent focus in 
 an action setting using manual focus.
 
 *ist DS and an A50mm/2.0.
 
 Album
 https://picasaweb.google.com/103420210337495775480/SoccerAtMclendon?authkey=Gv1sRgCIjm3fDkgurbxQE#
 
 Slideshow
 https://picasaweb.google.com/103420210337495775480/SoccerAtMclendon?authkey=Gv1sRgCIjm3fDkgurbxQE#slideshow/5583621300515263826
 
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Re: Controlling location to which LR imports

2011-03-13 Thread Eric Weir

On Mar 13, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 - On the right, notice the big pointer, another  arrow, indicating
 the 'Desktop' folder as the destination. Notice also that I've elected
 to move them organized by date using the date format mmdd, and
 that into subfolder is NOT checked. This means that LR will create a
 dated subfolder and put the 80 image files into it under Desktop. If I
 check the Into Subfolder option and gave it a name for a new
 subfolder, it would create the new subfolder under Desktop and THEN
 create new data-named subfolders under that. If you change the
 organize mode, it will change how it creates the destination you want
 to put them.
 
 For my normal import, I have the organize by date with this date
 format selected. Into subfolder is un-checked. I select the year as
 the top level folder, Lightroom creates the day by day subfolders
 under that year as desired with every import.

Thanks, again. Godfrey. I think I've got it, though I won't be able to be sure 
till my next import. Didn't know about checking/unchecking into subfolder. It 
seems to be the source of the problem. 

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Damaged images

2011-03-13 Thread Eric Weir

In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not 
display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were two 
images that were unsupported or damaged.

Should I expect this kind of thing occasionally? Or does it indicate there may 
be something wrong with my camera. 

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