Re: Stearman Kaydet

2016-10-12 Thread P.J. Alling

You mean like this?

http://steamregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/051916-Star-Wars-Mashup-630x375.jpg

On 10/13/2016 1:31 AM, Paul in MKE wrote:
The Stearman was widely used by the US military as a primary trainer 
during WWII and many were auctioned off for a pittance after the war.  
An old-time pilot I knew some 40+ years ago told me he bought one, 
new, still in the crate for $450. Because they were relatively cheap 
and very sturdy many were converted to crop dusters.  While there were 
several engine variants on the original military models, most of them 
were in the range of 220+ horsepower.  Many of the models converted to 
dusters had the engines upgraded to the Pratt & Whitney R-985, which 
was nearly double the original horsepower.  There are about 1000 still 
registered in the US, but probably not nearly that number still in 
flying condition.


Probably the most memorable movie scene with a Stearman is the one 
chasing Cary Grant in "North By Northwest".


-p


On 10/12/2016 11:08 PM, Alan C wrote:
I did some research & found that 8 survive in SA. A 9th was written 
off in Tzaneen (just north of here) in 2007.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
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Subject: Re: PESO: Stearman Kaydet

Thanks, Alan, Malcolm and Paul!


Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Alan C  wrote:


A real beauty. Looks like Biggles himself!

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
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A classic Bi-Wing airplane:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297375&size=lg
Comments are invited.

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Re: Hurricane Matthew

2016-10-12 Thread Paul in MKE
My ISP never provides an manual either.  If we get change providers 
and/or get a different modem/router I Google the make and model and 
usually am able to come up with an electronic version of the manual.  
Every modem I've had from different providers has had the same IP 
address - 192.168.0.1 - and some combination of the words "admin" and 
"password" for the log-in.  You can log in with any phone or tablet that 
has wi-fi and a web browser and make any changes needed.


-p


On 10/12/2016 5:13 PM, John wrote:

There is a web interface, but the modem comes up in wi-fi by default
with the Ethernet ports disabled if the power is disconnected for more
than a few minutes.

In order to log in to the modem to change the mode to work with my
Ethernet router, I have to dig out my laptop, enable wi-fi & find the
default wi-fi network before I can log into it.

Nor did Time-Warner supply a user manual that includes how to set up the
modem to use a wired Ethernet connection. So I'm going to have to call
"support" anyway.

Every time I talk to Time-Warner's "support", I have to tell them that I
don't use wi-fi and explain to them what an Ethernet network is so they
don't just reset the modem to wi-fi only and tell me the problem is my
router.

My only alternative for high speed internet in Raleigh is AT&T U-Verse.

Those two have a monopoly here - Time-Warner for cable, AT&T for
telephone line based access. Google fiber is supposed to be on the way,
but I don't know how long it's going to be before it gets here.

Nor do I really know if their support will be any better.

There are a couple of smaller towns in eastern North Carolina that
couldn't get high speed internet from either the cable companies nor the
telephone companies, so they installed their own municipal high speed
internet as a public utility. The cable/phone companies went to the NC
Legislature & had them put a stop to that - passing a law that cities &
towns couldn't offer municipal internet service. The towns went to court
& won an exemption for already existing municipal systems.

Can't have any NEW municipal internet systems, but for now, the towns
can keep the systems they have in place. They're also not allowed to
extend the systems to any area that wasn't already connected to the
municipal system.

Every session of the Legislature since then has had a bill introduced to
overturn the court decision & force the towns/cities with municipal
internet services to turn them over to the cable/phone companies. So
far, they haven't passed any new laws in that regard because they
haven't figured out how to write one that will stand up in court.

On 10/12/2016 4:59 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Ok, this seems silly but don't you have local control over that?  AT&T's
former U-Verse now run by Frontier, (a company who's customer service
makes SBC's look good by comparison), allows me to fully control the
Modem locally once I log in.  Good thing too, since getting U-Verse
service from Frontier seems to require sacrificing a couple of goats by
the light of a full moon.


On 10/12/2016 4:16 PM, John wrote:

Power went off at about 2:50PM Saturday, 08 October 2016.
Power restored at about 1:30PM Today, 12 October 2016.

Even though my UPS provided power for a graceful shutdown, I've been
fighting the network & NAS for the last couple of hours. Everything
appears to be finally up and running again.

After I got everything reset & functioning as a network again, I still
couldn't get an internet connection.

Had to call Time-Warner and go through all their "troubleshooting"
rigamarole before I could talk to one of their "support" droid-drones
and tell them to send a signal to the modem to turn of the goddamn 
wi-fi

& turn on the Ethernet ports.








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Re: Stearman Kaydet

2016-10-12 Thread Paul in MKE
The Stearman was widely used by the US military as a primary trainer 
during WWII and many were auctioned off for a pittance after the war.  
An old-time pilot I knew some 40+ years ago told me he bought one, new, 
still in the crate for $450.  Because they were relatively cheap and 
very sturdy many were converted to crop dusters.  While there were 
several engine variants on the original military models, most of them 
were in the range of 220+ horsepower.  Many of the models converted to 
dusters had the engines upgraded to the Pratt & Whitney R-985, which was 
nearly double the original horsepower.  There are about 1000 still 
registered in the US, but probably not nearly that number still in 
flying condition.


Probably the most memorable movie scene with a Stearman is the one 
chasing Cary Grant in "North By Northwest".


-p


On 10/12/2016 11:08 PM, Alan C wrote:
I did some research & found that 8 survive in SA. A 9th was written 
off in Tzaneen (just north of here) in 2007.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 12:27 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO: Stearman Kaydet

Thanks, Alan, Malcolm and Paul!


Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Alan C  wrote:


A real beauty. Looks like Biggles himself!

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:21 AM
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Subject: PESO: Stearman Kaydet


A classic Bi-Wing airplane:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297375&size=lg
Comments are invited.

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Re: Some printer stuff to chew on...

2016-10-12 Thread Paul in MKE

Ann, I'll put together a longish reply/info off list tomorrow.

-p


On 10/12/2016 10:22 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
If I get the same results regardless of what it says in elements 
(remove profile, use srgb,use adobe rgb) in the little drop down box 
in elements... I guess the printner driver is doing it


Didn't know r220 was dye or r2400 was pigment

I don't know how to install profiles
never thought about them at all

ann



On 10/12/2016 6:02 PM, Paul in MKE wrote:
As Paul Stenquist said, are you setting the software to control the 
color output or depending on the printer's driver? I looked on the 
Red River site and it appears they don't have an ICC profile for the 
R220, but they do for the R2400.  Would be a good idea to install he 
one for the R2400 and use that when printing from that printer.  Just 
be sure that if you use Elements to control the output you set the 
printer driver to not control the output results.


Also, I believe the R220 uses dye based inks while the R2400 inks are 
pigment based.  That could be a reason for the prints looking a 
slightly different.


-p


On 10/12/2016 3:58 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Are you printing with "PS Elements controls printing" or using the 
printer's color controls? To get accurate results you need to use 
the former. Accurate profiles are also an issue. Can you choose a 
paper for which ics profiles for your printers are available? That 
makes all the difference.


Paul via phone


On Oct 12, 2016, at 4:33 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I did a little test - took one file and printed it out three times 
on my R220 and three times on my R2400, changing the profile from 
SGRBto ADobe RGB, to Remove profile.  within the same printer run, 
they all look identical to me... but the R2400 prints are simply 
overall lighter than the R220. Now the R220 only has one black 
cartridge and the r2400 has 3, as most of you probably know. But 
you switch out the main Black one when you use matte paper.


I used 50lb Red river stock for this, double sided matte with the 
matte cartridge in , of course. On the R220 the setting was matte 
paper heavy weight best photo and photo enhanced. On the R2400 
there was a setting choice for double sided matte so I used that.


I haven't got any Red River specific profiles  - and from what I'm 
seeing I don't think it matters...


Looks like either or  both printers are simply overriding whatever 
is stored in the file or it really doesn't matter what profiel one 
uses and it is all BS, or


both printers are using a profile that is the samebecause I'm in 
Photoshop Elements 10 when i print and there is something in THAT 
which is controlling it.


I like some of thecalendar pages as they are on the r220 better 
than the r2400 and vice versabut it would be nice not to have to 
fiddle with the files every time I print one calendar page.


any ideas?

off to my daily nap now

ann


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Re: Stearman Kaydet

2016-10-12 Thread Alan C
I did some research & found that 8 survive in SA. A 9th was written off in 
Tzaneen (just north of here) in 2007.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Daniel J. Matyola

Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 12:27 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO: Stearman Kaydet

Thanks, Alan, Malcolm and Paul!


Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Alan C  wrote:


A real beauty. Looks like Biggles himself!

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:21 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: PESO: Stearman Kaydet


A classic Bi-Wing airplane:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297375&size=lg
Comments are invited.

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Re: West Coast meetup

2016-10-12 Thread ann sanfedele
John - eager to see ya on Saturday.. I'll write off list with a couple 
of details..


ann


On 10/12/2016 10:02 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:


Jan and I had a really good time with Larry yesterday, talked about
all sorts as well as a little about photography.  We managed to get a
few decent snaps, including the obligatory one of the other with
camera to face!

Looking forward to Saturday - shame Dan can't make it after all.

Looks like we might make another meet in SF at the end of our trip,
with John Francis, maybe Larry and Godfrey as well?



John in New York (was in San Francisco)





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Re: Some printer stuff to chew on...

2016-10-12 Thread ann sanfedele
If I get the same results regardless of what it says in elements (remove 
profile, use srgb,use adobe rgb) in the little drop down box in 
elements... I guess the printner driver is doing it


Didn't know r220 was dye or r2400 was pigment

I don't know how to install profiles
never thought about them at all

ann



On 10/12/2016 6:02 PM, Paul in MKE wrote:
As Paul Stenquist said, are you setting the software to control the 
color output or depending on the printer's driver? I looked on the Red 
River site and it appears they don't have an ICC profile for the R220, 
but they do for the R2400.  Would be a good idea to install he one for 
the R2400 and use that when printing from that printer.  Just be sure 
that if you use Elements to control the output you set the printer 
driver to not control the output results.


Also, I believe the R220 uses dye based inks while the R2400 inks are 
pigment based.  That could be a reason for the prints looking a 
slightly different.


-p


On 10/12/2016 3:58 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Are you printing with "PS Elements controls printing" or using the 
printer's color controls? To get accurate results you need to use the 
former. Accurate profiles are also an issue. Can you choose a paper 
for which ics profiles for your printers are available? That makes 
all the difference.


Paul via phone


On Oct 12, 2016, at 4:33 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I did a little test - took one file and printed it out three times 
on my R220 and three times on my R2400, changing the profile from 
SGRBto ADobe RGB, to Remove profile.  within the same printer run, 
they all look identical to me... but the R2400 prints are simply 
overall lighter than the R220.  Now the R220 only has one black 
cartridge and the r2400 has 3, as most of you probably know. But you 
switch out the main Black one when you use matte paper.


I used 50lb Red river stock for this, double sided matte with the 
matte cartridge in , of course. On the R220 the setting was matte 
paper heavy weight best photo and photo enhanced. On the R2400 there 
was a setting choice for double sided matte so I used that.


I haven't got any Red River specific profiles  - and from what I'm 
seeing I don't think it matters...


Looks like either or  both printers are simply overriding whatever 
is stored in the file or it really doesn't matter what profiel one 
uses and it is all BS, or


both printers are using a profile that is the samebecause I'm in 
Photoshop Elements 10 when i print and there is something in THAT 
which is controlling it.


I like some of thecalendar pages as they are on the r220 better than 
the r2400 and vice versabut it would be nice not to have to fiddle 
with the files every time I print one calendar page.


any ideas?

off to my daily nap now

ann


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West Coast meetup

2016-10-12 Thread jcoyle


Jan and I had a really good time with Larry yesterday, talked about
all sorts as well as a little about photography.  We managed to get a
few decent snaps, including the obligatory one of the other with
camera to face! 

Looking forward to Saturday - shame Dan can't make it after all. 

Looks like we might make another meet in SF at the end of our trip,
with John Francis, maybe Larry and Godfrey as well? 

  

John in New York (was in San Francisco) 


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Re: PESO - Urn and Shadows

2016-10-12 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks Malcolm, Larry, and Paul.

I haven't tried B&W on it yet; but I like the warm tones.

Rick

On Oct 12, 2016, at 6:55 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Excellent composition. Here, the bright light and deep shadows work in your 
> favor. Well done.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 4:47 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Womer wrote:
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295153
>> 
>> Very interesting.
>> 
>> There is something very interesting about that composition. My eye seems to 
>> find it both pleasing and unsettling.
>> 
>> Would doing it as B&W make it really pop, or lose all of it's pop?
>> 
>>> 
>>> (K-5, DA 16-45)
>>> 
>>> Comments appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
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Re: PESO - 'Fall Color'

2016-10-12 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks for commenting ann. I'm partial to the 'Carp River' image also, 
partially for the veiwpoint.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Fall Color'


I like it, I like the muted colors - always did like autumn colors on 
dreary days... but your Carp River is still with me... just loved that one!


ann


On 10/11/2016 3:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Gorgeous color. Should be good up there now.

Paul via phone


On Oct 11, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:


Thanks you Jack and Gonz for commenting.

Jack, I believe it was a high overcast day that allowed me to shoot this 
in the middle of the day.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
Subject: Re: PESO - 'Fall Color'



Color may have been in shade and fine detail seems elusive.
However, it's Certainly a fine fall scene.

J

- Original Message -
From: "Ken Waller" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 1:53:14 PM
Subject: PESO - 'Fall Color'

Taken in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with slide film and a PZ1P 
with a

70-210mm f4-5.6 F, digitized on a Nikon Super Coolscan 4000ED.

Comments appreciated.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18293797


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Re: The dreaded phone call

2016-10-12 Thread Bill

On 10/12/2016 11:07 AM, Theodore Beilby wrote:

Was at home yesterday and got a phone call we all hate. Can we use
one of your photos? I asked how much they were willing to pay for it?
Response, we are doing it for a promotion, not paying for photos. I
responded, "I don't give my work away." Basically that was the end of
the call. Few hours pass and the phone rings again. Same voice on the
other end, "How Much?" Long story short, they bought a one time use
for my price. I was very much nicer on the second call. Ted "The eye
of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer."  Albert Maysles



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Re: Some printer stuff to chew on...

2016-10-12 Thread ann sanfedele



On 10/12/2016 4:58 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Are you printing with "PS Elements controls printing" or using the printer's 
color controls?
I don't know and  don't know how to tell... that was what I hoped 
someone would tell me.  :-)
Hey weren't you the one that you said you removed profiles and let the 
printer rule?   The printing isn't bad , just different across printers 
- I can't tell the r220 that I'm using double sided matte, though

  To get accurate results you need to use the former. Accurate profiles are 
also an issue. Can you choose a paper for which ics profiles for your printers 
are available? That makes all the difference.

Paul via phone


On Oct 12, 2016, at 4:33 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I did a little test - took one file and printed it out three times on my R220 
and three times on my R2400, changing the profile from SGRBto ADobe RGB, to 
Remove profile.  within the same printer run, they all look identical to me... 
but the R2400 prints are simply overall lighter than the R220.  Now the R220 
only has one black cartridge and the r2400 has 3, as most of you probably know. 
But you switch out the main Black one when you use matte paper.

I used 50lb Red river stock for this, double sided matte with the matte 
cartridge in , of course. On the R220 the setting was matte paper heavy weight 
best photo and photo enhanced.  On the R2400 there was a setting choice for 
double sided matte so I used that.

I haven't got any Red River specific profiles  - and from what I'm seeing I 
don't think it matters...

Looks like either or  both printers are simply overriding whatever is stored in 
the file or it really doesn't matter what profiel one uses and it is all BS, or

both printers are using a profile that is the samebecause I'm in Photoshop 
Elements 10 when i print and there is something in THAT which is controlling it.

I like some of thecalendar pages as they are on the r220 better than the r2400 
and vice versabut it would be nice not to have to fiddle with the files every 
time I print one calendar page.

any ideas?

off to my daily nap now

ann


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Re: PESO: Bird Dog

2016-10-12 Thread John

Groovy Baby!

On 10/12/2016 12:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:38 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


when I saw "Interior view" I almost didnt look...I feared canine entrails
... phew!



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Re: PESO: Stearman Kaydet

2016-10-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Alan, Malcolm and Paul!


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On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Alan C  wrote:

> A real beauty. Looks like Biggles himself!
>
> Alan C
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> -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
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> Subject: PESO: Stearman Kaydet
>
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> A classic Bi-Wing airplane:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297375&size=lg
> Comments are invited.
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Re: Hurricane Matthew

2016-10-12 Thread John

There is a web interface, but the modem comes up in wi-fi by default
with the Ethernet ports disabled if the power is disconnected for more
than a few minutes.

In order to log in to the modem to change the mode to work with my
Ethernet router, I have to dig out my laptop, enable wi-fi & find the
default wi-fi network before I can log into it.

Nor did Time-Warner supply a user manual that includes how to set up the
modem to use a wired Ethernet connection. So I'm going to have to call
"support" anyway.

Every time I talk to Time-Warner's "support", I have to tell them that I
don't use wi-fi and explain to them what an Ethernet network is so they
don't just reset the modem to wi-fi only and tell me the problem is my
router.

My only alternative for high speed internet in Raleigh is AT&T U-Verse.

Those two have a monopoly here - Time-Warner for cable, AT&T for
telephone line based access. Google fiber is supposed to be on the way,
but I don't know how long it's going to be before it gets here.

Nor do I really know if their support will be any better.

There are a couple of smaller towns in eastern North Carolina that
couldn't get high speed internet from either the cable companies nor the
telephone companies, so they installed their own municipal high speed
internet as a public utility. The cable/phone companies went to the NC
Legislature & had them put a stop to that - passing a law that cities &
towns couldn't offer municipal internet service. The towns went to court
& won an exemption for already existing municipal systems.

Can't have any NEW municipal internet systems, but for now, the towns
can keep the systems they have in place. They're also not allowed to
extend the systems to any area that wasn't already connected to the
municipal system.

Every session of the Legislature since then has had a bill introduced to
overturn the court decision & force the towns/cities with municipal
internet services to turn them over to the cable/phone companies. So
far, they haven't passed any new laws in that regard because they
haven't figured out how to write one that will stand up in court.

On 10/12/2016 4:59 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Ok, this seems silly but don't you have local control over that?  AT&T's
former U-Verse now run by Frontier, (a company who's customer service
makes SBC's look good by comparison), allows me to fully control the
Modem locally once I log in.  Good thing too, since getting U-Verse
service from Frontier seems to require sacrificing a couple of goats by
the light of a full moon.


On 10/12/2016 4:16 PM, John wrote:

Power went off at about 2:50PM Saturday, 08 October 2016.
Power restored at about 1:30PM Today, 12 October 2016.

Even though my UPS provided power for a graceful shutdown, I've been
fighting the network & NAS for the last couple of hours. Everything
appears to be finally up and running again.

After I got everything reset & functioning as a network again, I still
couldn't get an internet connection.

Had to call Time-Warner and go through all their "troubleshooting"
rigamarole before I could talk to one of their "support" droid-drones
and tell them to send a signal to the modem to turn of the goddamn wi-fi
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Re: Some printer stuff to chew on...

2016-10-12 Thread Paul in MKE
As Paul Stenquist said, are you setting the software to control the 
color output or depending on the printer's driver?  I looked on the Red 
River site and it appears they don't have an ICC profile for the R220, 
but they do for the R2400.  Would be a good idea to install he one for 
the R2400 and use that when printing from that printer.  Just be sure 
that if you use Elements to control the output you set the printer 
driver to not control the output results.


Also, I believe the R220 uses dye based inks while the R2400 inks are 
pigment based.  That could be a reason for the prints looking a slightly 
different.


-p


On 10/12/2016 3:58 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Are you printing with "PS Elements controls printing" or using the printer's 
color controls? To get accurate results you need to use the former. Accurate profiles are 
also an issue. Can you choose a paper for which ics profiles for your printers are 
available? That makes all the difference.

Paul via phone


On Oct 12, 2016, at 4:33 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I did a little test - took one file and printed it out three times on my R220 
and three times on my R2400, changing the profile from SGRBto ADobe RGB, to 
Remove profile.  within the same printer run, they all look identical to me... 
but the R2400 prints are simply overall lighter than the R220.  Now the R220 
only has one black cartridge and the r2400 has 3, as most of you probably know. 
But you switch out the main Black one when you use matte paper.

I used 50lb Red river stock for this, double sided matte with the matte 
cartridge in , of course. On the R220 the setting was matte paper heavy weight 
best photo and photo enhanced.  On the R2400 there was a setting choice for 
double sided matte so I used that.

I haven't got any Red River specific profiles  - and from what I'm seeing I 
don't think it matters...

Looks like either or  both printers are simply overriding whatever is stored in 
the file or it really doesn't matter what profiel one uses and it is all BS, or

both printers are using a profile that is the samebecause I'm in Photoshop 
Elements 10 when i print and there is something in THAT which is controlling it.

I like some of thecalendar pages as they are on the r220 better than the r2400 
and vice versabut it would be nice not to have to fiddle with the files every 
time I print one calendar page.

any ideas?

off to my daily nap now

ann


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Re: PESO: Bird Dog

2016-10-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 1:32 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

>
> BTw - are you and Lee going to be coming in on Saturday for NYC PDMLwith
> the out of towners?


Ann:

Lee and I will NOT be able to make it Saturday.  I was very interested in
joining the group, and meeting some more PDMLers face-to-face, but I had
forgotten a previous commitment we had made.  We are flying out tomorrow to
Santa Fe to meet with a group of my college classmates for a joint 75th
birthday celebration at a resort out their.  We will be wining and dining,
of course, and talking about the good old days, but also making some
excursions to native American sites and to the Georgia O'Keeffe Museum.

I will be thinking of you all.  Have a grand gathering!

Dan

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Re: Hurricane Matthew

2016-10-12 Thread P.J. Alling
Ok, this seems silly but don't you have local control over that?  AT&T's 
former U-Verse now run by Frontier, (a company who's customer service 
makes SBC's look good by comparison), allows me to fully control the 
Modem locally once I log in.  Good thing too, since getting U-Verse 
service from Frontier seems to require sacrificing a couple of goats by 
the light of a full moon.



On 10/12/2016 4:16 PM, John wrote:

Power went off at about 2:50PM Saturday, 08 October 2016.
Power restored at about 1:30PM Today, 12 October 2016.

Even though my UPS provided power for a graceful shutdown, I've been
fighting the network & NAS for the last couple of hours. Everything
appears to be finally up and running again.

After I got everything reset & functioning as a network again, I still
couldn't get an internet connection.

Had to call Time-Warner and go through all their "troubleshooting"
rigamarole before I could talk to one of their "support" droid-drones
and tell them to send a signal to the modem to turn of the goddamn wi-fi
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Re: Some printer stuff to chew on...

2016-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Are you printing with "PS Elements controls printing" or using the printer's 
color controls? To get accurate results you need to use the former. Accurate 
profiles are also an issue. Can you choose a paper for which ics profiles for 
your printers are available? That makes all the difference.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 4:33 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I did a little test - took one file and printed it out three times on my R220 
> and three times on my R2400, changing the profile from SGRBto ADobe RGB, to 
> Remove profile.  within the same printer run, they all look identical to 
> me... but the R2400 prints are simply overall lighter than the R220.  Now the 
> R220 only has one black cartridge and the r2400 has 3, as most of you 
> probably know. But you switch out the main Black one when you use matte paper.
> 
> I used 50lb Red river stock for this, double sided matte with the matte 
> cartridge in , of course. On the R220 the setting was matte paper heavy 
> weight best photo and photo enhanced.  On the R2400 there was a setting 
> choice for double sided matte so I used that.
> 
> I haven't got any Red River specific profiles  - and from what I'm seeing I 
> don't think it matters...
> 
> Looks like either or  both printers are simply overriding whatever is stored 
> in the file or it really doesn't matter what profiel one uses and it is all 
> BS, or
> 
> both printers are using a profile that is the samebecause I'm in Photoshop 
> Elements 10 when i print and there is something in THAT which is controlling 
> it.
> 
> I like some of thecalendar pages as they are on the r220 better than the 
> r2400 and vice versabut it would be nice not to have to fiddle with the files 
> every time I print one calendar page.
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> off to my daily nap now
> 
> ann
> 
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Re: PESO: America's Largest

2016-10-12 Thread Ken Waller
If you include a giraffe, you'd also have to include a standard 8 foot ladder 
so you could sense the scale of the giraffe !


-Original Message-
>From: Paul Stenquist 
>Subject: Re: PESO: America's Largest
>
>
>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> On 12 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 I like this photo as it stands.
 
 I'd also like to see a scale photo … something with a person or a car next 
 to the tree to get a feel for the tree's size.
>>> 
>>> Good point.  In case I didn't make it clear, artistically, it is an 
>>> excellent photo, it would also be nice to see something showing its scale.
>> 
>> A giraffe would be good.
>> 
>> Nice picture!
>> 
>> B
>
>Thanks. A giraffe is always good. I’ve never seen a picture that included a 
>giraffe that led me to say, “The giraffe is spoiling the picture.” 
>Paul


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Re: USA PDML meetups ... Marin snaps

2016-10-12 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016, at 04:37 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2016 10:49, "Brian Walters"  wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016, at 08:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > "so crook?" I dinna ken that slang.
> >
> >
> > You'll just have to come downunder and find out.
> >
> >
> >
> And Brian can smile and give you a Vegemite sandwich...


Not my favourite way of eating Vegemite.  On crumpets for breakfast is
much better (and with a smile) :-)>


Cheers

Brian

++
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Some printer stuff to chew on...

2016-10-12 Thread ann sanfedele
I did a little test - took one file and printed it out three times on my 
R220 and three times on my R2400, changing the profile from SGRBto ADobe 
RGB, to Remove profile.  within the same printer run, they all look 
identical to me... but the R2400 prints are simply overall lighter than 
the R220.  Now the R220 only has one black cartridge and the r2400 has 
3, as most of you probably know. But you switch out the main Black one 
when you use matte paper.


I used 50lb Red river stock for this, double sided matte with the matte 
cartridge in , of course. On the R220 the setting was matte paper heavy 
weight best photo and photo enhanced.  On the R2400 there was a setting 
choice for double sided matte so I used that.


I haven't got any Red River specific profiles  - and from what I'm 
seeing I don't think it matters...


Looks like either or  both printers are simply overriding whatever is 
stored in the file or it really doesn't matter what profiel one uses and 
it is all BS, or


both printers are using a profile that is the samebecause I'm in 
Photoshop Elements 10 when i print and there is something in THAT which 
is controlling it.


I like some of thecalendar pages as they are on the r220 better than the 
r2400 and vice versabut it would be nice not to have to fiddle with the 
files every time I print one calendar page.


any ideas?

off to my daily nap now

ann


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Hurricane Matthew

2016-10-12 Thread John

Power went off at about 2:50PM Saturday, 08 October 2016.
Power restored at about 1:30PM Today, 12 October 2016.

Even though my UPS provided power for a graceful shutdown, I've been
fighting the network & NAS for the last couple of hours. Everything
appears to be finally up and running again.

After I got everything reset & functioning as a network again, I still
couldn't get an internet connection.

Had to call Time-Warner and go through all their "troubleshooting"
rigamarole before I could talk to one of their "support" droid-drones
and tell them to send a signal to the modem to turn of the goddamn wi-fi
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Re: The dreaded phone call

2016-10-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/10/16, Theodore Beilby, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Was at home yesterday and got a phone call we all hate. Can we use one
>of your photos? I asked how much they were willing to pay for it?
>Response, we are doing it for a promotion, not paying for photos. I
>responded, "I don't give my work away." Basically that was the end of
>the call. Few hours pass and the phone rings again. Same voice on the
>other end, "How Much?" Long story short, they bought a one time use for
>my price. I was very much nicer on the second call. 

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Re: PESO: America's Largest

2016-10-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Oct 12, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I’ve never seen a picture that included a giraffe that led me to say, “The 
> giraffe is spoiling the picture.”

MARK!

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Re: The dreaded phone call

2016-10-12 Thread Collin B
At least they called and asked in the first place.
There's some honesty in that.



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Re: The dreaded phone call

2016-10-12 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Ted, well done!

You had the strength to "stand your ground", and it paid off.
(And that is probably even more important than the actual money you've 
got.)

No reason to dread the next call! :)

This initial attitude of the caller once again reminded me this, 
previously circulated on PDML comic strip: 
http://www.whattheduck.net/post/140034124998/wtd-835-free-is-the-new-paid-2009-aaron


But then, as a convict serving the life sentence that just attempted to 
escape says in a TV serial: "You can't blame me for trying".


You can't blame these guys for trying to get it for free.
;-)

Cheers,

Igor



Theodore Beilby Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:08:38 -0700 wrote:

Was at home yesterday and got a phone call we all hate. Can we use one of 
your photos? I asked how much they were willing to pay for it? Response, 
we are doing it for a promotion, not paying for photos. I responded, "I 
don't give my work away." Basically that was the end of the call. Few 
hours pass and the phone rings again. Same voice on the other end, "How 
Much?" Long story short, they bought a one time use for my price. I was 
very much nicer on the second call. Ted


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Re: PESO: America's Largest

2016-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> On 12 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>> I like this photo as it stands.
>>> 
>>> I'd also like to see a scale photo … something with a person or a car next 
>>> to the tree to get a feel for the tree's size.
>> 
>> Good point.  In case I didn't make it clear, artistically, it is an 
>> excellent photo, it would also be nice to see something showing its scale.
> 
> A giraffe would be good.
> 
> Nice picture!
> 
> B

Thanks. A giraffe is always good. I’ve never seen a picture that included a 
giraffe that led me to say, “The giraffe is spoiling the picture.” 
Paul


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Re: PESO: America's Largest

2016-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
My purpose here was to celebrate the tree, not its size. And I was doing so to 
please a very nice lady. Hence, I didn’t want to include a figure or anything 
else that might indicate scale but would distract from the tree itself. The 
path is a standard city sidewalk, about five-feet wide. The width of the crown 
is impressive. More than 150 feet I would guess.  But I didn’t make much effort 
to determine the diameter of the trunk or the expanse of the crown. I will 
someday if I’m by there again and have some time to spare. I thought I might 
find that data on the web but all I’ve found is that based on a formula that 
considers height, the width of the crown and the width of the trunk it is tied 
with another tree as largest in the United States. I think there is a larger 
Bebb Oak in Canada. Because Bebb Oaks are hybrids they’re not listed in some of 
the books that recognize record trees. In the end, it’s just a nice tree in a 
very unfortunate spot. I had to dodge rush hour traffic to get a decent pic. 
Apparently rush hour starts before dawn in Rochester Hills.

Paul
> On Oct 12, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> I like this photo as it stands.
>> 
>> I'd also like to see a scale photo … something with a person or a car next 
>> to the tree to get a feel for the tree's size.
> 
> Good point.  In case I didn't make it clear, artistically, it is an excellent 
> photo, it would also be nice to see something showing its scale.
> 
>> 
>> G
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This Rochester Hills, Michigan  tree is said to be the largest Bebb Oak in 
>>> the United States. It measures about ten feet in diameter at its base, and 
>>> one of its weighty limbs rests on the ground. It
>>> is estimated to be at least 250 years old, although that has never been 
>>> determined for certain, because common testing means might injure it. 
>>> Sometimes we’re so caught up in things, it’s hard to see the trees for the 
>>> forest. I must have driven by this massive tree dozens of times since I 
>>> arrived in Michigan and never noticed it. I only discovered it after a lady 
>>> friend, who arrived here from Italy just a dozen years ago or so, pointed 
>>> it out to me and asked if I would photograph it for her. I finally did so 
>>> this morning, just before sunrise. It’s on a busy street, so my angles were 
>>> limited. I cloned out a couple of street signs and a bit of pavement. The 
>>> tree predates them by hundreds of years, so I figured its entitled to a 
>>> clean environment.
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297169&size=lg
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO: America's Largest

2016-10-12 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 12 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> I like this photo as it stands.
>> 
>> I'd also like to see a scale photo … something with a person or a car next 
>> to the tree to get a feel for the tree's size.
> 
> Good point.  In case I didn't make it clear, artistically, it is an excellent 
> photo, it would also be nice to see something showing its scale.

A giraffe would be good.

Nice picture!

B

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Re: America's Largest

2016-10-12 Thread Alan C
I would say the path is about 1m wide so the base of the tree at ground 
level (by the exposed roots) is about 3m or 10'. 10' circumference is only 
about 3¼' diameter and clearly it is much bigger than that.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Larry Colen

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:44 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO: America's Largest

Wonderful photo. Unfortunately without a person, or anything to give scale, 
in it the trunk only looks like about ten feet in circumference rather than 
diameter, that pathway next to it only looks a couple of feet wide.


On October 11, 2016 9:20:40 AM PDT, Paul Stenquist  
wrote:

This Rochester Hills, Michigan  tree is said to be the largest Bebb Oak
in the United States. It measures about ten feet in diameter at its
base, and one of its weighty limbs rests on the ground. It
is estimated to be at least 250 years old, although that has never been
determined for certain, because common testing means might injure it.
Sometimes we’re so caught up in things, it’s hard to see the trees for
the forest. I must have driven by this massive tree dozens of times
since I arrived in Michigan and never noticed it. I only discovered it
after a lady friend, who arrived here from Italy just a dozen years ago
or so, pointed it out to me and asked if I would photograph it for her.
I finally did so this morning, just before sunrise. It’s on a busy
street, so my angles were limited. I cloned out a couple of street
signs and a bit of pavement. The tree predates them by hundreds of
years, so I figured its entitled to a clean environment.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297169&size=lg
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Re: PESO: America's Largest

2016-10-12 Thread Larry Colen



Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I like this photo as it stands.

I'd also like to see a scale photo … something with a person or a car next to 
the tree to get a feel for the tree's size.


Good point.  In case I didn't make it clear, artistically, it is an 
excellent photo, it would also be nice to see something showing its scale.




G


On Oct 11, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

This Rochester Hills, Michigan  tree is said to be the largest Bebb Oak in the 
United States. It measures about ten feet in diameter at its base, and one of 
its weighty limbs rests on the ground. It
is estimated to be at least 250 years old, although that has never been 
determined for certain, because common testing means might injure it. Sometimes 
we’re so caught up in things, it’s hard to see the trees for the forest. I must 
have driven by this massive tree dozens of times since I arrived in Michigan 
and never noticed it. I only discovered it after a lady friend, who arrived 
here from Italy just a dozen years ago or so, pointed it out to me and asked if 
I would photograph it for her. I finally did so this morning, just before 
sunrise. It’s on a busy street, so my angles were limited. I cloned out a 
couple of street signs and a bit of pavement. The tree predates them by 
hundreds of years, so I figured its entitled to a clean environment.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297169&size=lg





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Re: PESO: America's Largest

2016-10-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I like this photo as it stands. 

I'd also like to see a scale photo … something with a person or a car next to 
the tree to get a feel for the tree's size. 

G

> On Oct 11, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> This Rochester Hills, Michigan  tree is said to be the largest Bebb Oak in 
> the United States. It measures about ten feet in diameter at its base, and 
> one of its weighty limbs rests on the ground. It
> is estimated to be at least 250 years old, although that has never been 
> determined for certain, because common testing means might injure it. 
> Sometimes we’re so caught up in things, it’s hard to see the trees for the 
> forest. I must have driven by this massive tree dozens of times since I 
> arrived in Michigan and never noticed it. I only discovered it after a lady 
> friend, who arrived here from Italy just a dozen years ago or so, pointed it 
> out to me and asked if I would photograph it for her. I finally did so this 
> morning, just before sunrise. It’s on a busy street, so my angles were 
> limited. I cloned out a couple of street signs and a bit of pavement. The 
> tree predates them by hundreds of years, so I figured its entitled to a clean 
> environment. 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297169&size=lg


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Re: PESO: America's Largest

2016-10-12 Thread Larry Colen
Wonderful photo. Unfortunately without a person, or anything to give scale, in 
it the trunk only looks like about ten feet in circumference rather than 
diameter, that pathway next to it only looks a couple of feet wide.

On October 11, 2016 9:20:40 AM PDT, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>This Rochester Hills, Michigan  tree is said to be the largest Bebb Oak
>in the United States. It measures about ten feet in diameter at its
>base, and one of its weighty limbs rests on the ground. It
>is estimated to be at least 250 years old, although that has never been
>determined for certain, because common testing means might injure it.
>Sometimes we’re so caught up in things, it’s hard to see the trees for
>the forest. I must have driven by this massive tree dozens of times
>since I arrived in Michigan and never noticed it. I only discovered it
>after a lady friend, who arrived here from Italy just a dozen years ago
>or so, pointed it out to me and asked if I would photograph it for her.
>I finally did so this morning, just before sunrise. It’s on a busy
>street, so my angles were limited. I cloned out a couple of street
>signs and a bit of pavement. The tree predates them by hundreds of
>years, so I figured its entitled to a clean environment. 
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297169&size=lg
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Re: USA PDML meetups ... Marin snaps

2016-10-12 Thread Chris Mitchell
Good to see some more PDML faces. Hope you have a great time there.

Chris

On 12 Oct 2016 08:51, "Larry Colen"  wrote:

>
>
> Larry Colen wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> John Francis wrote:
>>
>>> It is next month - the SF get-together is at the tail end of John's trip.
>>>
>>
>> Yes it is. That is what threw me too. They were just here for a one day
>> layover on their way to the East Coast. I met up with them in SF and we
>> had a pleasant visit. Incriminating photos to follow.
>>
>
> When I saw Chris' note this afternoon, I was just leaving a dental appt in
> Cupertino, about a third of the way to SF from my house, so I headed north
> and met them at Fisherman's wharf.  They mentioned that someone had told
> them Sausalito was nice, and not really wanting to spend any time at FW, I
> convinced them to let me take them from tourist trap central to a rather
> nicer class of tourist trap.  We stopped at the vista point at the north
> end of the bridge, snapped a few photos then wandered into Sausalito,
> looked around a bit as it was getting dark and had a very nice dinner
> before I drove them back to their BnB in South San Francisco.
>
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157675099182145
>
> I was, of course, amused that the exit to their BnB had we turned the
> other direction would have taken us to Brisbane. So, after flying 10,000
> miles from Brisbane, they missed staying in Brisbane by about two miles.
>
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> 14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x808f78d8f2a30531:0
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Re: The dreaded phone call

2016-10-12 Thread Jack Davis
Good for you, Ted!

J

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> On Oct 12, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Theodore Beilby  wrote:
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> Was at home yesterday and got a phone call we all hate. Can we use one of 
> your photos? I asked how much they were willing to pay for it? Response, we 
> are doing it for a promotion, not paying for photos. I responded, "I don't 
> give my work away." Basically that was the end of the call. Few hours pass 
> and the phone rings again. Same voice on the other end, "How Much?" Long 
> story short, they bought a one time use for my price. I was very much nicer 
> on the second call. 
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Re: USA PDML meetups ... Marin snaps

2016-10-12 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 12 Oct 2016 10:49, "Brian Walters"  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016, at 08:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> >
> > "so crook?" I dinna ken that slang.
>
>
> You'll just have to come downunder and find out.
>
>
>
And Brian can smile and give you a Vegemite sandwich...

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Re: PESO: Bird Dog

2016-10-12 Thread ann sanfedele

Good luck with that one, remember I've met you in person :-)

BTw - are you and Lee going to be coming in on Saturday for NYC PDMLwith 
the out of towners?


ann


On 10/12/2016 12:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:38 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


when I saw "Interior view" I almost didnt look...I feared canine entrails
... phew!


Since I will never be a great photographer, I am determined to become a man
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Re: The dreaded phone call

2016-10-12 Thread ann sanfedele

Good show, ted!

ann


On 10/12/2016 1:07 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote:

Was at home yesterday and got a phone call we all hate. Can we use one of your photos? I asked how 
much they were willing to pay for it? Response, we are doing it for a promotion, not paying for 
photos. I responded, "I don't give my work away." Basically that was the end of the call. 
Few hours pass and the phone rings again. Same voice on the other end, "How Much?" Long 
story short, they bought a one time use for my price. I was very much nicer on the second call.
Ted
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Re: The dreaded phone call

2016-10-12 Thread Bruce Walker
That's a great story, Ted. Best of all: with a happy ending. :)
Congratulations!


On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Theodore Beilby  wrote:
> Was at home yesterday and got a phone call we all hate. Can we use one of 
> your photos? I asked how much they were willing to pay for it? Response, we 
> are doing it for a promotion, not paying for photos. I responded, "I don't 
> give my work away." Basically that was the end of the call. Few hours pass 
> and the phone rings again. Same voice on the other end, "How Much?" Long 
> story short, they bought a one time use for my price. I was very much nicer 
> on the second call.
> Ted
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The dreaded phone call

2016-10-12 Thread Theodore Beilby
Was at home yesterday and got a phone call we all hate. Can we use one of your 
photos? I asked how much they were willing to pay for it? Response, we are 
doing it for a promotion, not paying for photos. I responded, "I don't give my 
work away." Basically that was the end of the call. Few hours pass and the 
phone rings again. Same voice on the other end, "How Much?" Long story short, 
they bought a one time use for my price. I was very much nicer on the second 
call. 
Ted
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Re: USA PDML meetups ... Marin snaps

2016-10-12 Thread ann sanfedele

Good to see their facesbefore Saturday... -

John will have a lot of potential pug entries for NOvember on this trip!

ann


On 10/12/2016 3:50 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



Larry Colen wrote:



John Francis wrote:
It is next month - the SF get-together is at the tail end of John's 
trip.


Yes it is. That is what threw me too. They were just here for a one day
layover on their way to the East Coast. I met up with them in SF and we
had a pleasant visit. Incriminating photos to follow.


When I saw Chris' note this afternoon, I was just leaving a dental 
appt in Cupertino, about a third of the way to SF from my house, so I 
headed north and met them at Fisherman's wharf.  They mentioned that 
someone had told them Sausalito was nice, and not really wanting to 
spend any time at FW, I convinced them to let me take them from 
tourist trap central to a rather nicer class of tourist trap.  We 
stopped at the vista point at the north end of the bridge, snapped a 
few photos then wandered into Sausalito, looked around a bit as it was 
getting dark and had a very nice dinner before I drove them back to 
their BnB in South San Francisco.




https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157675099182145

I was, of course, amused that the exit to their BnB had we turned the 
other direction would have taken us to Brisbane. So, after flying 
10,000 miles from Brisbane, they missed staying in Brisbane by about 
two miles.



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RE: Peso-Scatter

2016-10-12 Thread Malcolm Smith
Jack Davis wrote:

You caught a stunning sky, Malcolm!
Very nice!

Thanks Jack, very generous of you. I went to photograph horses, but the
skies took my interest that night.

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Re: Peso-Scatter

2016-10-12 Thread Jack Davis
You caught a stunning sky, Malcolm!
Very nice!

J
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> On Oct 12, 2016, at 12:24 AM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> This is what happens as I drive the "Tourist Loop" of a local wildlife area.
> I get harshly honked at, but quickly am forgiven as they circle and return
> to feed and chatter.
> May be Canada geese(?), but I'm certain they're not Snow Geese. Snow geese
> will be in somewhat later.
> 
> K3 W/DA55-300
> 
> C&C?
> 
> J
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1107 
> 
> Very nice. I had a take at this with our local birds:
> http://flic.kr/p/MDpFuJ
> 
> Mine is not the dramatic scene yours is!
> 
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Re: PESO: Stearman Kaydet

2016-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 12:21 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> A classic Bi-Wing airplane:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297375&size=lg
> Comments are invited.
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Re: PESO: America's Largest

2016-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Malcolm. Yes, dawn light is worth getting out of bed for, especially at 
this time of year when it's not so bloody early.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 3:13 AM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> This Rochester Hills, Michigan  tree is said to be the largest Bebb Oak in 
> the United States. It measures about ten feet in diameter at its base, and 
> one of its weighty limbs rests on the ground. It is estimated to be at least 
> 250 years old, although that has never been determined for certain, because 
> common testing means might injure it. Sometimes we’re so caught up in things, 
> it’s hard to see the trees for the forest. I must have driven by this massive 
> tree dozens of times since I arrived in Michigan and never noticed it. I only 
> discovered it after a lady friend, who arrived here from Italy just a dozen 
> years ago or so, pointed it out to me and asked if I would photograph it for 
> her. I finally did so this morning, just before sunrise. It’s on a busy 
> street, so my angles were limited. I cloned out a couple of street signs and 
> a bit of pavement. The tree predates them by hundreds of years, so I figured 
> its entitled to a clean environment. 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297169&size=lg
> 
> Wonderful light as well. Very pleasing.
> 
> Malcolm
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Re: PESO - Urn and Shadows

2016-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent composition. Here, the bright light and deep shadows work in your 
favor. Well done.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 4:47 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Womer wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295153
> 
> Very interesting.
> 
> There is something very interesting about that composition. My eye seems to 
> find it both pleasing and unsettling.
> 
> Would doing it as B&W make it really pop, or lose all of it's pop?
> 
>> 
>> (K-5, DA 16-45)
>> 
>> Comments appreciated.
>> 
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Re: USA PDML meetups ... Marin snaps

2016-10-12 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016, at 08:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> 
> Brian Walters wrote:
> > Great set of images and nice to put faces to John's and Jan's names (we
> > may live in the same country but we've never met).
> 
> I understand, there are several USAian PDMLers that I've never met.
> :-)
> 
> >
> > My big regret of my USA trip in 2013 is that I was so crook for most of
> 
> "so crook?" I dinna ken that slang.


You'll just have to come downunder and find out.



Cheers

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> > my stay in SF that I didn't get a chance to catch up with you and the
> > other motley crew from the west coast.
> 
> I guess you'll just have to come back.
> 
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
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Re: USA PDML meetups ... Marin snaps

2016-10-12 Thread Larry Colen



Brian Walters wrote:

Great set of images and nice to put faces to John's and Jan's names (we
may live in the same country but we've never met).


I understand, there are several USAian PDMLers that I've never met.
:-)



My big regret of my USA trip in 2013 is that I was so crook for most of


"so crook?" I dinna ken that slang.


my stay in SF that I didn't get a chance to catch up with you and the
other motley crew from the west coast.


I guess you'll just have to come back.




Cheers

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Re: PESO - Urn and Shadows

2016-10-12 Thread Larry Colen



Rick Womer wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295153


Very interesting.

There is something very interesting about that composition. My eye seems 
to find it both pleasing and unsettling.


Would doing it as B&W make it really pop, or lose all of it's pop?



(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: USA PDML meetups ... Marin snaps

2016-10-12 Thread Brian Walters
Great set of images and nice to put faces to John's and Jan's names (we
may live in the same country but we've never met).

My big regret of my USA trip in 2013 is that I was so crook for most of
my stay in SF that I didn't get a chance to catch up with you and the
other motley crew from the west coast.


Cheers

Brian
 
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On Wed, Oct 12, 2016, at 06:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> 
> Larry Colen wrote:
> >
> >
> > John Francis wrote:
> >> It is next month - the SF get-together is at the tail end of John's trip.
> >
> > Yes it is. That is what threw me too. They were just here for a one day
> > layover on their way to the East Coast. I met up with them in SF and we
> > had a pleasant visit. Incriminating photos to follow.
> 
> When I saw Chris' note this afternoon, I was just leaving a dental appt 
> in Cupertino, about a third of the way to SF from my house, so I headed 
> north and met them at Fisherman's wharf.  They mentioned that someone 
> had told them Sausalito was nice, and not really wanting to spend any 
> time at FW, I convinced them to let me take them from tourist trap 
> central to a rather nicer class of tourist trap.  We stopped at the 
> vista point at the north end of the bridge, snapped a few photos then 
> wandered into Sausalito, looked around a bit as it was getting dark and 
> had a very nice dinner before I drove them back to their BnB in South 
> San Francisco.
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157675099182145
> 
> I was, of course, amused that the exit to their BnB had we turned the 
> other direction would have taken us to Brisbane. So, after flying 10,000 
> miles from Brisbane, they missed staying in Brisbane by about two miles.
> 
> 
> https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Brisbane,+CA/501+Hillside+Blvd,+South+San+Francisco,+CA+94080/@37.6865605,-122.4180419,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x808f78d8f2a30531:0xff55e02fce53ae30!2m2!1d-122.3999715!2d37.6807661!1m5!1m1!1s0x808f79067b2e3e2b:0xba7ff48440a91a2c!2m2!1d-122.4104417!2d37.6646045
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Re: USA PDML meetups ... Marin snaps

2016-10-12 Thread Larry Colen



Larry Colen wrote:



John Francis wrote:

It is next month - the SF get-together is at the tail end of John's trip.


Yes it is. That is what threw me too. They were just here for a one day
layover on their way to the East Coast. I met up with them in SF and we
had a pleasant visit. Incriminating photos to follow.


When I saw Chris' note this afternoon, I was just leaving a dental appt 
in Cupertino, about a third of the way to SF from my house, so I headed 
north and met them at Fisherman's wharf.  They mentioned that someone 
had told them Sausalito was nice, and not really wanting to spend any 
time at FW, I convinced them to let me take them from tourist trap 
central to a rather nicer class of tourist trap.  We stopped at the 
vista point at the north end of the bridge, snapped a few photos then 
wandered into Sausalito, looked around a bit as it was getting dark and 
had a very nice dinner before I drove them back to their BnB in South 
San Francisco.




https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157675099182145

I was, of course, amused that the exit to their BnB had we turned the 
other direction would have taken us to Brisbane. So, after flying 10,000 
miles from Brisbane, they missed staying in Brisbane by about two miles.



https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Brisbane,+CA/501+Hillside+Blvd,+South+San+Francisco,+CA+94080/@37.6865605,-122.4180419,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x808f78d8f2a30531:0xff55e02fce53ae30!2m2!1d-122.3999715!2d37.6807661!1m5!1m1!1s0x808f79067b2e3e2b:0xba7ff48440a91a2c!2m2!1d-122.4104417!2d37.6646045

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RE: PESO - Urn and Shadows

2016-10-12 Thread Malcolm Smith
Rick Womer wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295153

Plus matching staircases. Well seen.

Malcolm


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RE: PESO: Stearman Kaydet

2016-10-12 Thread Malcolm Smith
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

A classic Bi-Wing airplane:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297375&size=lg
Comments are invited.

Again another interesting picture. Keep them coming.

Malcolm


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RE: PESO: Bird Dog

2016-10-12 Thread Malcolm Smith
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Malcom.  Here are some external views:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295761&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295762&size=lg

Thanks Dan, great - a really good day out.

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RE: Peso-Scatter

2016-10-12 Thread Malcolm Smith
Jack Davis wrote:

This is what happens as I drive the "Tourist Loop" of a local wildlife area.
I get harshly honked at, but quickly am forgiven as they circle and return
to feed and chatter.
May be Canada geese(?), but I'm certain they're not Snow Geese. Snow geese
will be in somewhat later.

K3 W/DA55-300

C&C?

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1107 

Very nice. I had a take at this with our local birds:
http://flic.kr/p/MDpFuJ

Mine is not the dramatic scene yours is!

Malcolm


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RE: PESO: America's Largest

2016-10-12 Thread Malcolm Smith
Paul Stenquist wrote:

This Rochester Hills, Michigan  tree is said to be the largest Bebb Oak in the 
United States. It measures about ten feet in diameter at its base, and one of 
its weighty limbs rests on the ground. It is estimated to be at least 250 years 
old, although that has never been determined for certain, because common 
testing means might injure it. Sometimes we’re so caught up in things, it’s 
hard to see the trees for the forest. I must have driven by this massive tree 
dozens of times since I arrived in Michigan and never noticed it. I only 
discovered it after a lady friend, who arrived here from Italy just a dozen 
years ago or so, pointed it out to me and asked if I would photograph it for 
her. I finally did so this morning, just before sunrise. It’s on a busy street, 
so my angles were limited. I cloned out a couple of street signs and a bit of 
pavement. The tree predates them by hundreds of years, so I figured its 
entitled to a clean environment. 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18297169&size=lg

Wonderful light as well. Very pleasing.

Malcolm


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