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2006-09-29 Thread Jostein Øksne
graywolf wrote: The ideal format for landscapes is at least 20x24. However most landscape photographers are wimps, and refuse to backpack one of them about. GRIN You know someone alive today who's not a wimp? Grinning too Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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2006-09-29 Thread David Mann
On Sep 29, 2006, at 1:54 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: On a completely different track, I think that a outdoor-friendly MedF-D will actually compete with stitching software when it comes to landscapes. It certainly would from my point of view. I'm never going to bother with stitching when I

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2006-09-29 Thread mike wilson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Canada is a big country. I _so_ want to say the M word. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

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2006-09-29 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, William Robb wrote: Thanks for the link, but not many people consider the internet as a place to buy batteries. Is that the same people that will shell out 1,000 USD for a DSLR and lens? Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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2006-09-29 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, John Celio wrote: Whatever... So eloquent! Even better, he quoted your whole message underneath. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

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2006-09-29 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Paul Crovella wrote: Adam Maas wrote: Pentax lenses, which are in lower supply and demand, have a restricted number of sellers Adam, yes, *that* is supply and demand. The supply is low and while the demand isn't huge, it's big enough in relation to supply to keep prices

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2006-09-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote: The costs aren't due to limited supply of lenses compared to demand, but due to the inherently higher costs of doing short production runs and higher per-unit profit requirements to make the product viable. Mike J wrote very cogently about this just a couple of weeks ago:

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-29 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Roberts wrote: Adam Maas wrote: The costs aren't due to limited supply of lenses compared to demand, but due to the inherently higher costs of doing short production runs and higher per-unit profit requirements to make the product viable. Mike J wrote very cogently about this

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2006-09-29 Thread Tom C
Non-alakaline AAs are the lowest common denominators. I've even used those in a pinch. :-) Tom C. From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20

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2006-09-29 Thread Joseph Tainter
The existence of Lithium AAs blows away their theory. Cheap, light, durable, easy-care (actually non-care), with half a decade of shelf-life. True, but Pentax have to assume that customers might use AA Alkalines and claim that things won't work. They could specify not to use Alkalines

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2006-09-29 Thread Joseph Tainter
The DA18-55 and DA50-200 are definitely lower spec on build if not performance. When Pop Photo reviewed the Samsung version of the DA 50-200, they said that in some ways it outperforms some constant F2.8 telezooms. But they wondered if it will retain that performance, or if the optical elements

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 29, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Joseph Tainter wrote: The DA18-55 and DA50-200 are definitely lower spec on build if not performance. When Pop Photo reviewed the Samsung version of the DA 50-200, they said that in some ways it outperforms some constant F2.8 telezooms. But they wondered

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=002KFdtag= Sabastio Salgado also uses a 645 Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi I'm not sure about that, Rob. I seem to recall at least three photo books published in the past 12 months which listed in the technical credits

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2006-09-29 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks for posting this, Ken. Things seem to be looking up for Pentax. It's nice to know that staff motivation is one of the driveing forces in the company. Afterall, it's often people, rather than organizations the create progress. regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11

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2006-09-29 Thread graywolf
They are certainly in the Boone store. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-29 Thread graywolf
: Interview w/Pentax exec The ideal format for landscapes is at least 20x24. However most landscape photographers are wimps, and refuse to backpack one of them about. GRIN I would like to get an 11x14, since this is the size of print I tend to make most of the time. I always wondered why 5x7

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2006-09-28 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 28/09/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its pretty clear that Pentax does not have the either the resources or the incentive to pull off a FF camera. First of all it would require two different lens lines, one for the smaller image circle, one for the larger. Even Canon, with their much

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2006-09-28 Thread Cotty
On 27/9/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: (quoting Head Honcho) Q. K series digital is the main line, right? A. K series digital will continue to high end. Q. Does that mean the MF (645) Digital? A. No. It is going to be the K mount. But I wish to pre-empt you. High-end does not

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
While you may be right, Rob, we'll really have to wait and see. It's quite possible Samsung money has been very helpful to Pentax, and will continue to be over some time. There's clearly a market for the larger format digital cameras ... I don't know if it's where Pentax should be or not, but,

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/9/06, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: Its pretty clear that Pentax does not have the either the resources or the incentive to pull off a FF camera. Course it does Gonz. What it does not have is the customers to buy it. That became clear after the demise of the LX. -- Cheers, Cotty

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2006-09-28 Thread Cotty
On 27/9/06, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: I've yet to see a wide-angle shot taken with a FF sensor that doesn't have soft or dark edges and corners. Sorry John, but this sentence is meaningless. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

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2006-09-28 Thread John Forbes
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:39:09 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27/9/06, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: I've yet to see a wide-angle shot taken with a FF sensor that doesn't have soft or dark edges and corners. Sorry John, but this sentence is meaningless. Cotters, Your

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2006-09-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Pentax's pro users have been largely medium format for many years. Whether they can retain a share of this market is uncertain, but they probably have a better chance in MF than in pro grade FF SLR. Paul On Sep 28, 2006, at 3:16 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 28/09/06, Gonz [EMAIL

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2006-09-28 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 28/09/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, if you're sure Pentax can't meet your needs, why not switch now? If you're not going to stick with Pentax, money spent on the K10D will be wasted. I can understand someone wanting

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 28/09/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax's pro users have been largely medium format for many years. Whether they can retain a share of this market is uncertain, but they probably have a better chance in MF than in pro grade FF SLR. I understand where you're coming from Paul

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: Going to 12MP from 10 will be an even smaller step than going to 8MP from 6, so they'll have to throw lots of other nice stuff into the equation :) I'm thinking cast magnesium chassis, higher frame-rate, CF and SD cards, bluetooth, etc. grin - This is a puzzle.

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
John Forbes wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:39:09 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27/9/06, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: I've yet to see a wide-angle shot taken with a FF sensor that doesn't have soft or dark edges and corners. Sorry John, but this sentence is meaningless.

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2006-09-28 Thread graywolf
I will argue with that. MF users are: a. Wedding Photographers many who have gone digital, but some of them are actually going back to film; and b. Studio Photographers who have probably only gone 50% digital, some of them actually shoot digital and film in parallel. Actually the only area

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2006-09-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
The vast majority of upper echelon commercial photographers are shooting digital. Some who do a lot of location work and went to the full frame Canons early on may well be upgrading soon to 20 to 30 megapixel MF. On Sep 28, 2006, at 8:15 AM, graywolf wrote: I will argue with that. MF users

RE: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Rob Brigham
of these on price, but not sure how many. Just my 2c Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: 28 September 2006 13:15 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec I will argue with that. MF users are: a. Wedding

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2006-09-28 Thread Jostein Øksne
: Interview w/Pentax exec I will argue with that. MF users are: a. Wedding Photographers many who have gone digital, but some of them are actually going back to film; and b. Studio Photographers who have probably only gone 50% digital, some of them actually shoot digital and film in parallel

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2006-09-28 Thread John Forbes
I thought the angle of light affected things like chromatic aberration. Are you saying that some light just bounces off the filter on the sensor and never gets recorded at all? John On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:19:21 +0100, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep

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2006-09-28 Thread Amita Guha
On 9/28/06, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've yet to see a wide-angle shot taken with a FF sensor that doesn't have soft or dark edges and corners. Nate says that this is how wide-angle lenses behave on film bodies anyway, and he enjoys it because it is more of a film-like experience.

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2006-09-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec On 9/28/06, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've yet to see a wide-angle shot taken with a FF sensor that doesn't have soft or dark edges and corners. Nate says that this is how wide-angle lenses behave on film bodies

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2006-09-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rob Brigham Subject: RE: Interview w/Pentax exec Add to that list: C. Landscape photographers - I shot some landscapes this last trip with my istD that I normally think of as large format type pictures. They looked great on the computer screeen, not so

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2006-09-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote: 1/250 flash sync, 1/8000 shutter, Oh yes, I'd forgotten flash sync and shutter speed! 5-8fps, buffer of at least 20 RAW's, all shooting controls on physical buttons, I'd love the controls to work that way. ~2500mAh battery, (hopefully) an aperture simulator, Nope,

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 28/09/06, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the angle of light affected things like chromatic aberration. Are you saying that some light just bounces off the filter on the sensor and never gets recorded at all? CA is exaggerated due to the Bayer topology of the sensor, some

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2006-09-28 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 28/09/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The more pronounced the difference will beI don't think this is A fault of FF DSLRS whatsoever No it's simply an exaggeration by the cheerleaders of the APS formats. The APS digital format was something I never asked for or really

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2006-09-28 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:11:20 +0200 schreef John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I thought the angle of light affected things like chromatic aberration. Are you saying that some light just bounces off the filter on the sensor and never gets recorded at all? No. The light-sensitive part of the sensor

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2006-09-28 Thread Mark Roberts
J. C. O'Connell wrote: I have never used ANY wide angle lens on film (24mm equiv or wider) On ANY film format (35mm thru 8x10) that didn't have softer corners And edges than in the center. That is simply the nature/physics Of optics. Even the very best W.A. optics always perform better in

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2006-09-28 Thread Jostein Øksne
, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham Subject: RE: Interview w/Pentax exec Add to that list: C. Landscape photographers - I shot some landscapes this last trip with my istD that I normally think of as large format type pictures. They looked

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2006-09-28 Thread Jostein Øksne
The currenly widest lens in the 645 lineup is the 35mm, which is very good. I don't think there needs to be more than two lenses added on the wide side; a prime at say, 28mm, and a WA zoom to match. That said, I believe both the 45mm and the 55mm will need to be replaced for quality issues (the

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2006-09-28 Thread Tom Lesser
Can't they stick with AA NiMH rechargeables (why do we need *another* dedicated battery?) and make it compatible with CF cards, too (the SD cards are just too small and easy to misplace) ??? Please! Tom Lesser Frederick MD And YES, YES, YES to the things below: On Sep 28, 2006, at 8:15 AM,

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2006-09-28 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 28/09/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The obvious solution would be to do away with these cavities, and have the photosensitive part of the sensor flush with the surface. Apparently this is not feasible or desireable. Does anyone know why? Very very basically, there has to be

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2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Roberts wrote: Adam Maas wrote: 1/250 flash sync, 1/8000 shutter, Oh yes, I'd forgotten flash sync and shutter speed! 5-8fps, buffer of at least 20 RAW's, all shooting controls on physical buttons, I'd love the controls to work that way. ~2500mAh battery, (hopefully)

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2006-09-28 Thread John Forbes
Thanks for the education, all who replied. I may not be wiser, but I am better informed. John On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:48:49 +0100, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/09/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The obvious solution would be to do away with these

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2006-09-28 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 28/09/06, Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add to that list: C. Landscape photographers - many of whom havent gone digital because (I think) most MedF solutions need to be tethered to a PC, need mains power, or are just too bulky to use in the field. Some of these may have gone

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2006-09-28 Thread Christian
Gonz wrote: Second, in body SR is not going to work in the FF because of image circle limitations. Canon has the upper hand here because of the lens based IS, which is independent of the sensor size. But have you priced an IS lens lately? Interesting question. from BH Photo: Canon

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2006-09-28 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/28/06 9:59 AM, Tom Lesser, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't they stick with AA NiMH rechargeables (why do we need *another* dedicated battery?) Someone is Japan asked Pentax on this and he got a fairly detailed reply. Unfortunately, I do not remember all of it, but essentially; 1. It was

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2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
I'd pay $500 more for a FF sensor body at 12MP. Tom C. From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:13:06 -0700 Going to 12MP from 10 will be an even smaller step than

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2006-09-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/9/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: Your experience might differ, but the sentence is not meaningless. Yes it is. Let's take a look at it in detail. I've yet to see a wide-angle shot taken with a FF sensor that doesn't have soft or dark edges and corners. Right, I have some

RE: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Rob Brigham
I'd pay $500 more for wireless via RTF!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 28 September 2006 16:38 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec I'd pay $500 more for a FF sensor body at 12MP. Tom C. From

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2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
I'm yet to be convinced that the Pentax DA lens line is real quality glass like the FA and older Pentax primes. They strike me as being cheap, light, and plastic. I have not read or seen any real scientific lens tests on them. I have not heard anything other than anecdotal subjective opinions

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2006-09-28 Thread pnstenquist
The DA 12-24 is excellent, and for $900 it should be. I don't shoot brick walls, I make photographs, so I don't have scientific evidence. But I know a good photo when I see one. Paul -- Original message -- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm yet to be convinced

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2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
Substitute FF for 645 in your discussion above. They 645 is the camera that should not have been developing, the resources that is has consumed could have been better utilized in serving Pentax's core SLR market. Exactly. Why are you always so negative Rob? :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

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2006-09-28 Thread Michael Perham
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: September 27, 2006 8:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec I've got no idea if his expectations are unrealistic but I've read and seen enough

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2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
On 27/9/06, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: I've yet to see a wide-angle shot taken with a FF sensor that doesn't have soft or dark edges and corners. Sorry John, but this sentence is meaningless. Cheers, Cotty Some people here would prefer to totally ignore the very very

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2006-09-28 Thread Paul Crovella
You're equating a person's account of first hand experience with unsupported conjecture. Cotty wrote: On 28/9/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: I've yet to see a wide-angle shot taken with a FF sensor that doesn't have soft or dark edges and corners. snip / The sentence is as

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2006-09-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:45 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: I understand where you're coming from Paul but I sincerely expect that any pro who used Pentax medium format equipment has likely moved on to a new digital system of some type. I can't help but believe that the vast majority of Pentax

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
pixels for the entire image when printed at 4X6. My 2 cents. Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:12:46 -0600 - Original Message

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2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
No it's simply an exaggeration by the cheerleaders of the APS formats. The APS digital format was something I never asked for or really ever appreciated. -- Some of these guys wear dresses? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

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2006-09-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Some of the DA glass is quite good, although I've not done direct comparisons between some lenses and their FA and earlier equivalents (like the DA 14/2.8 and the A15/3.5). Some, contrary to what others here say, seem to be over rated, or better suited for some types of photography or images than

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2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:45 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: I understand where you're coming from Paul but I sincerely expect that any pro who used Pentax medium format equipment has likely moved on to a new digital system of some type. I can't help but believe that the

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2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
Interesting question. from BH Photo: Canon 300/2.8 ISUS$3900 (in stock) Pentax FA 300/2.8 non-is $US4550 (accepting orders) Don't let the cat out of the bag now, Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

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2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
I agree 176% . Tom C. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:46:13 +0100 On 28/9/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: Your experience might differ

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2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
Very very basically, there has to be depth to the photo sensor, that's the nature of current sensor technology and if they removed the condenser lens then the sensitivity would fall as not all of the pixel area is light sensitive. They can however offset the condenser lenses (as they have done in

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2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
I'm expecting a higher price, probably $2000-2500. But I'm hoping for a real _FLAGSHIP_ like the LX, which is competetive with the other flasgships not a semi-pro body masquerading as one like the PZ-1p and MZ-S. -Adam I'm wishing not expecting, but I'm with you. Tom C. -- PDML

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2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:28:56 -0700 Some of the DA glass is quite good, although I've not done direct comparisons between some lenses and their FA and earlier equivalents (like the DA 14/2.8 and the A15/3.5

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2006-09-28 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 10:19 AM -0600 9/28/06, Tom C wrote: No it's simply an exaggeration by the cheerleaders of the APS formats. The APS digital format was something I never asked for or really ever appreciated. -- Some of these guys wear dresses? Little short ones? And carry pom-poms? -- Steve Sharpe [EMAIL

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2006-09-28 Thread Gonz
Scientific evidence is forthcoming. Your patience will be rewarded. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm yet to be convinced that the Pentax DA lens line is real quality glass like the FA and older Pentax primes. They strike me as being cheap, light, and plastic. I have not read or seen any

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2006-09-28 Thread frank theriault
On 9/28/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scientific evidence is forthcoming. Your patience will be rewarded. :) Science is overrated. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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2006-09-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/27/2006 5:24:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Q. Specifically how are you going to increase the lens lineup? A. In the new lens road map, 10 lenses are shown, which will become available in 2007. However, we know these are too small a number. We are

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2006-09-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
First, what do you see wrong? It seems to me that if the ideal format for landscapes is some large format (4x5, 5x7) then the digital equivalent should also be a format substantially larger than APS-C or perhaps even 645. I've seen some gorgeous work made with larger format digi backs. Shel

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2006-09-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Sharpe wrote: At 10:19 AM -0600 9/28/06, Tom C wrote: No it's simply an exaggeration by the cheerleaders of the APS formats. The APS digital format was something I never asked for or really ever appreciated. Some of these guys wear dresses? Little short ones? And carry

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2006-09-28 Thread P. J. Alling
So is everything else... frank theriault wrote: On 9/28/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scientific evidence is forthcoming. Your patience will be rewarded. :) Science is overrated. cheers, frank -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler.

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2006-09-28 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:26:54 +0200, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is everything else... Like full frame? -- grin, duck and run, Lucas frank theriault wrote: On 9/28/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scientific evidence is forthcoming. Your patience will be rewarded. :)

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2006-09-28 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/28/06 1:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very glad to hear they realize they need more new lenses. This was my one major concern in switching back. Of course, talk is one thing, and actual production is another, but it does sound like they are committed to improving

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2006-09-28 Thread Bob W
On 9/28/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scientific evidence is forthcoming. Your patience will be rewarded. :) Science is overrated. Prove it! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

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2006-09-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 28, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Steve Sharpe wrote: At 10:19 AM -0600 9/28/06, Tom C wrote: No it's simply an exaggeration by the cheerleaders of the APS formats. The APS digital format was something I never asked for or really ever appreciated. Some of these guys

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Similarly, both the DA14 and DA21 impress me as much as the FA77, FA50/1.4 and FA35/2 ... excellent performers, very high quality feel, etc. These are premium lenses. The DA18-55 and DA50-200 are definitely lower spec on build if not performance. Godfrey On Sep 28, 2006, at 8:57 AM,

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2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
The 18-55 is simply the best cheap kit lens I've seen since the early (SMC-F) AF era. It's better built, better spec'd and better performing than anything the competition is selling for similar money. Only the Nikon 18-70 outperforms it, and that costs 2x as much (And really is far too much of

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec Interesting question. from BH Photo: Canon 300/2.8 ISUS$3900 (in stock) Pentax FA 300/2.8 non-is $US4550 (accepting orders) Don't let the cat out of the bag now, Some time ago (probably close to 15 years

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread keith_w
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 28, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Steve Sharpe wrote: At 10:19 AM -0600 9/28/06, Tom C wrote: No it's simply an exaggeration by the cheerleaders of the APS formats. The APS digital format was something I never asked for or really ever

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jostein Øksne Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec Bill, The K10D may give you 500 more pixels. The 645D is another matter. :-) I'm not saying that this will be the layout of the chip, but consider the longest side on *istD sensor: 3000 pixels. Divide

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Tom C
Quite likely I would think... either scenario... economy of scale or subsidization. Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:31:22

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec First, what do you see wrong? Tonality and detail are the biggies that jump out at me when looking at a print made from the DSLR. It seems to me that if the ideal format for landscapes is some large

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:49:53AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: J. C. O'Connell wrote: I have never used ANY wide angle lens on film (24mm equiv or wider) On ANY film format (35mm thru 8x10) that didn't have softer corners And edges than in the center. That is simply the nature/physics

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Jostein Øksne
William Robb wrote: I haven't shot with 645 for a very long time, and didn't do much with it for landscapes, but I have shot a lot of landscapes with 6x7, which uses moderately longer focal lengths for similar angle of view. With medium format depth of field is a huge problem, I just can't

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, K.Takeshita wrote: Now, they said their concern was on Alkaline which indicates that NiMH might do, but considering that the whole purpose of going for AA's was the wide availability of non-rechargeable batteries, I can understand why Pentax played safe on this. The

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote: from BH Photo: Canon 300/2.8 ISUS$3900 (in stock) Pentax FA 300/2.8 non-is $US4550 (accepting orders) Some time ago (probably close to 15 years), a friend was looking to get an 80-200/2.8 lens. He was a long time Pentax user, but he found when pricing things

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread frank theriault
On 9/28/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do they hang around the Isle of Man thinking about nudity? I cut down trees. I skip and jump. I like to press wild flowers. I put on women's clothing And hang around in bars. cheers, the Canadian Lumberjack -- Sharpness is a bourgeois

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:41 PM, keith_w wrote: OMG! You've already picked up on the accent! when you come back, we'll have the devil's time recognizing you! And, what with the blue skin and all... LOL ... It kinda grows on you ... the accent that is. I've spent a few weeks of the year here

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread John Celio
Second, in body SR is not going to work in the FF because of image circle limitations. Canon has the upper hand here because of the lens based IS, which is independent of the sensor size. But have you priced an IS lens lately? Interesting question. from BH Photo: Canon 300/2.8 IS

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, K.Takeshita wrote: Now, they said their concern was on Alkaline which indicates that NiMH might do, but considering that the whole purpose of going for AA's was the wide availability of non-rechargeable batteries, I can understand why Pentax

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, K.Takeshita wrote: Now, they said their concern was on Alkaline which indicates that NiMH might do, but considering that the whole purpose of going for AA's was the wide

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:37 PM, William Robb wrote: First, what do you see wrong? Tonality and detail are the biggies that jump out at me when looking at a print made from the DSLR. I can't see that tonality is any problem at all: although it takes a fair bit of rendering skill and work,

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 28, 2006, at 1:34 PM, frank theriault wrote: Do they hang around the Isle of Man thinking about nudity? I cut down trees. I skip and jump. I like to press wild flowers. I put on women's clothing And hang around in bars. cheers, the Canadian Lumberjack Canadians are a proud

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread pnstenquist
Last time I spoke to Clint, he was shooting with full-frame Canons almost exclusively. However, there are a lot of commercial photographers who shoot large format digital in the studio. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] William

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread Paul Crovella
John Celio wrote: They can afford to charge more for Pentax because they're not such hot sellers. You're saying BH works opposite the principle of supply and demand? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

2006-09-28 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/28/06 4:27 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The existence of Lithium AAs blows away their theory. Cheap, light, durable, easy-care (actually non-care), with half a decade of shelf-life. True, but Pentax have to assume that customers might use AA Alkalines and claim

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