Re: [PLUG] Forced upgrade... Some not so good

[Chuck Hast]

I got everything out of it. It will not boot, if I take a look at it I get
supernode errors but dd walking right in
and got everything out intact. That was the important part, that is done.
What I am trying to figure out
is what has changed between 20.04 and 22. 04 that is causing me so many
issues with the video using
Compiz.  I am assuming that ddrescue is some tools that are wrapped around
dd? I will have to check
it out, but I found that just the basic dd did exactly what I needed to do.

Tnx for the info going to go look at it for the future.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:01 PM Galen Seitz  wrote:

> On 2/22/24 11:30, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > Folks, My hard drive took a dive, I had it mostly backed up but still
> > had to go through and pick some stuff out, well dd was my very good
> > friend.
>
> If you were unable to recover everything you wanted, you might want to
> try ddrescue.  It may become your new best friend.
>
> galen
> --
> Galen Seitz
> gal...@seitzassoc.com
>

[PLUG] Forced upgrade... Some not so good

[Chuck Hast]

Folks,
My hard drive took a dive, I had it mostly backed up but still had to go
through and pick
some stuff out, well dd was my very good friend.

Now I moved from Ubuntu Mate 20.04 to 22.04 Prior to that move the video
had been
working perfectly. I use Compiz as my window manager, have done so for
years. I have
never had issues except once where I had to download the Nvidia bloob to
get things
right video wise.

Well after the install of everything and moving over to Compiz from Mate
Marco, I have
encountered things that make it rough. When the screen goes dark sometimes
I can
not get it to come back. all I get is a black screen I can see the cursor
move around.
The recovery is to ssh into the machine and kill the session. NOW, wen the
session
comes back up it is in a very low resolution, I am running a 2560 x 1080
screen have
been now for quite some time, On the orginal system I had no problems with
it.
Also things like gkrellm do not remember their location at shutdown and
come up in
the wrong location. There is other weirdness but those are some of the high
points.

I run compiz because I am very used to it and have a lot of shortcuts
particularly with
the mouse buttons and wheel I tried to use a regular desktop and about
pulled my hair
out trying to navigate without compiz.

The one thing I have noticed when the desktop comes back up after I have to
kill it to
gain access, the resolution has dropped to 1600 x 900. If I try to increase
it again the
video tears in the areas where the screen was increased in size.

The machine is a Optiplex 9010, running Ubuntu Mate 22.04. 16G of ram. The
7 processors
are idling at from 0% to 11%.

All else appears to be working just fine. Just the video.

-- 

Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Ph 4:13 KJV
Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
Fil 4:13 RVR1960

Re: [PLUG] Dell BIOS update when I have Linux

[Chuck Hast]

I shall have to try the Win10 one, the machine in question is an Optiplex
7010,
so it is pre-2015 and that knocks some of the options out there.

As  usual very good info.

Have a great New Year folks.

On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 8:18 AM VY  wrote:

> Thanks for the info
>
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024, 12:12 AM Neal  wrote:
>
> > What Mark said.
> >
> > I was recently shocked and thrilled to learn the BIOS of a Dell Precision
> > T1700, a ~ten year old model, could "run" the Dell BIOS update exe
> > directly.
> >
> > NealS
> >
>

Re: [PLUG] Dell BIOS update when I have Linux

[Chuck Hast]

I am in the same bucket. I have a Dell that I want to update the BIOS, and
it is the
same thing. I followed the "create a dos bootable USB" as that was offered
as a
solution with the comment that this may not work on USB3 machines... Well
guess
what?? So I am in the same boat. Kind of like selling you a car and telling
you that
you can only burn Shell gas in it.
Microsoft has wreaked more damage on this planet than folks realize. My
wake up
was in Spain at a glass container plant, dealing with something called
Conficker on
the plant backend network. To say that I came to hate MS is being nice.

On Mon, Jan 1, 2024 at 5:57 PM VY  wrote:

> Dear All:
>
> I bought a refurbished Dell laptop last year.  It has been working well so
> far.
> I just visited Dell.com support and they said I have a new BIOS I can
> update.
> However, their update "executable" is a Windows EXE and I am running Linux
> Mint and I am not going to move to Windows.
>
> Is there a way I can update my BIOS on my Dell laptop while running Linux?
>
> thanks
>
> -v
>

Re: [PLUG] UPS shopping

[Chuck Hast]

I am not sure you would have to check on each manufacturer, the best ones
are on line double conversion
the power goes through the UPS, it is rectified, the battery floats on it
and the DC feeds an inverter so that
the load never sees mains power. The rest of them are some form of
standby/offline UPS which switches
to the battery backed inverter if there is a failure or sag of some sort on
the power line. The better ones will
have line filtering to clean up the trash that is sometimes called utility
power, again your mileage may vary
Google is you friend on this one.

Most of the better "pure sine wave" units do quite well, Triplite was used
heavily on the glass container
inspection machines I worked on, some plants had their own gen stations and
the power was "up and down"
line wiese (voltage and frequency) those never seemed to go offline they
just did their job.  In the hospital
labs we have been using Cyber Power, these UPS also appear to do the job,
everywhere we have  put
equipment behind them we have had no more issues with DOA PSU's and logic
modules.  There is APC
which is all over the place, my issue with them was mainly that was the go
to by the BioMed folks and
APC kept on selling them modified sine wave vice pure sine wave and we
would continue to have issues.
Why APC would sell them modified sine wave when we had told them that they
needed pure sine wave
I do not not but kind of left a bad note in my mind about APC.
I have a lab that put in APC pure sine wave and they have had no issues
with power since. So I think that
as long as you do a bit of due diligence you are probably in good shape.


On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 1:39 PM Dick Steffens  wrote:

> On 12/30/23 09:30, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > Google 24v inverter there are boat loads of them for 24v PV systems.
> > Ranging from 300W on up.
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/24-volt-pure-sine-wave-inverter/s?k=24+volt+pure+sine+wave+inverter
> > If you are planning on running computers
> > and whatnot get a sine wave inverter, many switched PSU's do not like
> > modified sine wave (weasel words actually modified SQUARE WAVE)
> > they will put up with it but shortens life. The prices have dropped
> > considerably on them, same for the pure sine wave UPS.
>
> How well do those units deal with poor quality power from an emergency
> generator? I have a Champi8on 100296 dual fuel generator. When I'm
> running it, my UPS boxes won't run. They reject the power from the
> generator. I'm guessing it's because it's not 60 HZ, but something close
> enough that it's good for all the rest of the appliances, but not the
> UPS boxes.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dick Steffens
>

Re: [PLUG] UPS shopping

[Chuck Hast]

Google 24v inverter there are boat loads of them for 24v PV systems.
Ranging from 300W on up.
https://www.amazon.com/24-volt-pure-sine-wave-inverter/s?k=24+volt+pure+sine+wave+inverter
If you are planning on running computers
and whatnot get a sine wave inverter, many switched PSU's do not like
modified sine wave (weasel words actually modified SQUARE WAVE)
they will put up with it but shortens life. The prices have dropped
considerably on them, same for the pure sine wave UPS.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sine+wave+ups=1M0L8EHMXA3Z8=sine+wave+ups%2Caps%2C101=nb_sb_noss_1
I used to service glass container inspection machines, I would catch
the bottle plants replacing the sine wave UPS with modified sine wave,
then they would call because the switching power supplies in the machine
were dying, I would make a service visit and find those UPS, tell them to
replace them with a sine wave UPS, THEN I would fix the power supply
problem. Usually ended up doing the UPS my self also.

I presently have the same issue in medical labs I service. Some of the
Hospital BioMed folks seem to think that a UPS is a UPS, have one that
has had 3 machines replaced due to modified sine wave ups. they finally
put in a sine wave UPS, no more issues.



On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 3:59 PM Neal  wrote:

> There are plenty of 24 volt input inverters available, typically for
> commercial trucks.
>
> NealS
>

Re: [PLUG] Mate Caja Connect to server question.

[Chuck Hast]

See below:

On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 5:42 PM Robert Detjens  wrote:

> Could it be sending logs to the user journal (`journalctl --user -e`)? GUI
> app
> logs usually end up there, at least on Gnome/Plasma; I assume MATE works
> the
> same way.
>
> I just tried it and of course got the same thing. I tested
against a console session which works great.
I got nothing in the journalctl file. I am using MATE with
Compiz.

Re: [PLUG] Mate Caja Connect to server question.

[Chuck Hast]

I went into the ssh_config file but did not find a setting for
the client, sshd_config YES, it is right in there, but the
client side I found nothing. I think it is just a wrap around
for the console. I do not know how many file managers
have it, I have seen in on quite a few. When you open the
file manager under "File" drop down there is New Tab,
New window, Create Folder, Create Document, and
*Connect to Server*.  That is the entry point you click on
it and it gives you a window to put in the server, the
port, the service, user, password. and some other items
Up until now it has always worked for me, but in this one
instance it does not work. It says to check the credentials.

I figure if I could see a log somewhere I might be able to
sort it out.


On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 3:25 PM Larry Brigman 
wrote:

> Normally setting the ssh client logging to debug gives some clues as to
> why.
> Not sure how to do that in the tool you mentioned.
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 11:10 AM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> > I do most of my ssh work from the console but there are
> > times when it is handy to use the "Connect to Server"
> > tool in Ubuntu Mate Caja. In which case I enter the usual
> > data, and I am accessing the other machine. I have one
> > case where I can access a device from the console just
> > fine. But when I try to use the Caja tool it fails and tells
> > me to check credentials
> >
> > I have looked high and low for the client side logs for SSH
> > and find nothing, there is a boat load out there for sshd...
> > But in this case it is the client side I want to see what is
> > going on.
> >
> > This same tool works for every other device that I am
> > trying to access, but this one device. Any guidance would
> > be most appreciated,
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> >
>

[PLUG] Mate Caja Connect to server question.

[Chuck Hast]

Folks,
I do most of my ssh work from the console but there are
times when it is handy to use the "Connect to Server"
tool in Ubuntu Mate Caja. In which case I enter the usual
data, and I am accessing the other machine. I have one
case where I can access a device from the console just
fine. But when I try to use the Caja tool it fails and tells
me to check credentials

I have looked high and low for the client side logs for SSH
and find nothing, there is a boat load out there for sshd...
But in this case it is the client side I want to see what is
going on.

This same tool works for every other device that I am
trying to access, but this one device. Any guidance would
be most appreciated,


-- 

Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Ph 4:13 KJV
Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
Fil 4:13 RVR1960

Re: [PLUG] Simultaneously horrifying and amazing!

[Chuck Hast]

In the medical and industrial fields RS-232 and RS-485 are
still alive and kicking.

I have numerous machines that I service which still have
RS-232 ports on them. I see RS-232 and RS-485 on
industrial equipment. They were good solid standards and
I guess if it ain't broke don't break it.

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 1:26 AM Derek Loree  wrote:

> On Thu, 2023-10-26 at 22:30 -0700, Russell Senior wrote:
> > I love RS232 and UARTs generally, I use them all the time and for me
> > they
> > will never go out of style, but I was wondering today about a
> > specific
> > marriage of the ancient and the modern, and it was hard to believe,
> > what
> > with USB being a pretty pervasive thing, they might exist, AND YET:
> >
> >https://www.startech.com/en-us/cards-adapters/pex1s953lp
> >
> > THEY DO.
>
> I've been using the two port version of this card for years.  Very
> robust cards, never had one fail.  I use them to control the drive
> motors in a medical device that helps doctors treat vertigo.  USB
> devices literally burn up when we tried them in this application.
>
> >
> > Meanwhile, parallel SCSI (which I've been using all week) has pretty
> > much
> > vanished from the modern world.
> >
>
> Same with Firewire, cables and all, gone, not to be found anywhere.
>
> Derek Loree
>

Re: [PLUG] Dnsmasq for tfpd and port 69

[Chuck Hast]

I just realized that 2672 was the PID, went in and killed it,
now I am able to do what I was trying to do...

Tnx for the guidance..


On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 8:18 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> Netstat returns this:
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:69  0.0.0.0:*
>   2672/in.tftpd
> But I cannot find the thing...
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 8:04 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
>> I have tried that with no luck. I did find a tftpd program running
>> but I removed it but still when I try to run dnsmasq it comes back
>> failing with the same error.
>> Here is what the ss command shows me:
>> kp4djt@kp4djt-T420:~$ ss -lnper | grep :69
>> udpUNCONN  0   0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:*
>>  ino:46376 sk:92 <->
>> udpUNCONN  0   0[::]:69[::]:*
>>  ino:46377 sk:97 v6only:1 <->
>> The upper one is the one that is causing problems. The lower one is ipv6,
>> I do not have any other tftpd sessions running that I know of. I have
>> tried
>> to check, the only one that showed up was the tftpd program which I have
>> removed.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 7:38 PM Russell Senior 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The "lsof" command will tell you what process is holding the port.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 5:20 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Folks,
>>> > I am trying to follow some instructions to load a file into a
>>> > device using dns masque. The command is this:
>>> >
>>> > sudo dnsmasq -i eth0 -u joe --log-dhcp --bootp-dynamic
>>> > --dhcp-range=192.168.1.100,192.168.1.200 -d -p0 -K --dhcp-boot=rb.elf
>>> > --enable-tftp --tftp-root=/tftp/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Whe I try to execute it I get the following error message:
>>> > Dnsmasq:  Failed to create listening socket for port 69: address
>>> > already in use.
>>> >
>>> > I used ss and saw that there was a tfpd server that I had installed
>>> > ages ago, it was still there, I removed it but I still get the same
>>> error
>>> > I see that port is still shown using the ss command but I do not see
>>> > what is using it.
>>> >
>>> > Any suggestions?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
>>> > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
>>> > Ph 4:13 KJV
>>> > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
>>> > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
>> Ph 4:13 KJV
>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> Ph 4:13 KJV
> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>
>

-- 

Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Ph 4:13 KJV
Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
Fil 4:13 RVR1960

Re: [PLUG] Dnsmasq for tfpd and port 69

[Chuck Hast]

Netstat returns this:
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:69  0.0.0.0:*
2672/in.tftpd
But I cannot find the thing...


On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 8:04 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> I have tried that with no luck. I did find a tftpd program running
> but I removed it but still when I try to run dnsmasq it comes back
> failing with the same error.
> Here is what the ss command shows me:
> kp4djt@kp4djt-T420:~$ ss -lnper | grep :69
> udpUNCONN  0   0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:*
>  ino:46376 sk:92 <->
> udpUNCONN  0   0[::]:69[::]:*
>  ino:46377 sk:97 v6only:1 <->
> The upper one is the one that is causing problems. The lower one is ipv6,
> I do not have any other tftpd sessions running that I know of. I have tried
> to check, the only one that showed up was the tftpd program which I have
> removed.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 7:38 PM Russell Senior 
> wrote:
>
>> The "lsof" command will tell you what process is holding the port.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 5:20 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>>
>> > Folks,
>> > I am trying to follow some instructions to load a file into a
>> > device using dns masque. The command is this:
>> >
>> > sudo dnsmasq -i eth0 -u joe --log-dhcp --bootp-dynamic
>> > --dhcp-range=192.168.1.100,192.168.1.200 -d -p0 -K --dhcp-boot=rb.elf
>> > --enable-tftp --tftp-root=/tftp/
>> >
>> >
>> > Whe I try to execute it I get the following error message:
>> > Dnsmasq:  Failed to create listening socket for port 69: address
>> > already in use.
>> >
>> > I used ss and saw that there was a tfpd server that I had installed
>> > ages ago, it was still there, I removed it but I still get the same
>> error
>> > I see that port is still shown using the ss command but I do not see
>> > what is using it.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions?
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
>> > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
>> > Ph 4:13 KJV
>> > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
>> > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> Ph 4:13 KJV
> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>
>

-- 

Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Ph 4:13 KJV
Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
Fil 4:13 RVR1960

Re: [PLUG] Dnsmasq for tfpd and port 69

[Chuck Hast]

I have tried that with no luck. I did find a tftpd program running
but I removed it but still when I try to run dnsmasq it comes back
failing with the same error.
Here is what the ss command shows me:
kp4djt@kp4djt-T420:~$ ss -lnper | grep :69
udpUNCONN  0   0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:*
 ino:46376 sk:92 <->
udpUNCONN  0   0[::]:69[::]:*
 ino:46377 sk:97 v6only:1 <->
The upper one is the one that is causing problems. The lower one is ipv6,
I do not have any other tftpd sessions running that I know of. I have tried
to check, the only one that showed up was the tftpd program which I have
removed.


On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 7:38 PM Russell Senior 
wrote:

> The "lsof" command will tell you what process is holding the port.
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 5:20 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> > I am trying to follow some instructions to load a file into a
> > device using dns masque. The command is this:
> >
> > sudo dnsmasq -i eth0 -u joe --log-dhcp --bootp-dynamic
> > --dhcp-range=192.168.1.100,192.168.1.200 -d -p0 -K --dhcp-boot=rb.elf
> > --enable-tftp --tftp-root=/tftp/
> >
> >
> > Whe I try to execute it I get the following error message:
> > Dnsmasq:  Failed to create listening socket for port 69: address
> > already in use.
> >
> > I used ss and saw that there was a tfpd server that I had installed
> > ages ago, it was still there, I removed it but I still get the same error
> > I see that port is still shown using the ss command but I do not see
> > what is using it.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> >
>


-- 

Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Ph 4:13 KJV
Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
Fil 4:13 RVR1960

[PLUG] Dnsmasq for tfpd and port 69

[Chuck Hast]

Folks,
I am trying to follow some instructions to load a file into a
device using dns masque. The command is this:

sudo dnsmasq -i eth0 -u joe --log-dhcp --bootp-dynamic
--dhcp-range=192.168.1.100,192.168.1.200 -d -p0 -K --dhcp-boot=rb.elf
--enable-tftp --tftp-root=/tftp/


Whe I try to execute it I get the following error message:
Dnsmasq:  Failed to create listening socket for port 69: address
already in use.

I used ss and saw that there was a tfpd server that I had installed
ages ago, it was still there, I removed it but I still get the same error
I see that port is still shown using the ss command but I do not see
what is using it.

Any suggestions?

-- 

Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Ph 4:13 KJV
Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
Fil 4:13 RVR1960

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu with mate/gnome2 and deb, but not snap

[Chuck Hast]

I have been using Ubuntu-Mate now for several years because
Compiz is quite easy to install with it. Indeed it was one of the
available desktops, but with 20.04 they made it available as a
download option.

By the way, the word Mate carries the accent on the first syllable not
the last. It should be Maate (e is a short a).

Back to Mate solutions, I am going to have to take a look at
Fedora Mate Compiz spin.
I really like my Compiz screens. I have a batch of kids that are
learning amateur radio, they really like the cube... (I am going
to get the hung on linux too)


On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 12:19 PM John Jason Jordan  wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 00:57:21 -0700
> Seth Alford  dijo:
>
> >Fedora has a MATE-Compiz spin that I have been using for a while.
> >
> >See https://spins.fedoraproject.org/mate-compiz/download/index.html
> >
> >You can download a live image that you can test run without writing it
> >to a hard drive.
>
> For several years I used Fedora, but eventually gave up on it because
> of the six month forced dist-upgrades. Plus, the dist-upgrades also
> sometimes included things that I didn't want, and without telling me.
>
> Regarding Ubuntu-Maté, it would greatly surprise me if it was
> discontinued. Ubuntu does occasionally make questionable decisions with
> respect to their *default* desktop environment, but when you get a
> different DE the only problem is if Ubuntu changed the base in some way
> that makes it impossible to install your desired DE. It seems to me
> that if you are concerned about the longevity of Ubuntu-Maté you are
> looking at the wrong thing - you should be concerned more with the
> longevity of Maté. As long as Maté is still around you can just install
> it instead of / in addition to what Ubuntu comes with.
>
> Regarding snap, I have occasional issues where it pops up warnings:
>
> Pending update of "chromium" snap
> Close the app to avoid disruptions (13 days left)
> Cancel  OK
>
> I searched the Ubuntu forums and discovered that this may be some kind
> of virus, yet others said otherwise. In my peregrinations there I
> recall seeing advice on how to get rid of snap altogether, but I didn't
> follow the instructions, and I don't remember how to do it. The problem
> with getting rid of snap is that nowadays there are some apps that
> cannot be installed without it. It may be that with Ubuntu you can love
> snap or hate snap, but you can't leave snap.
>


-- 

Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Ph 4:13 KJV
Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
Fil 4:13 RVR1960

Re: [PLUG] ThinkPads for sale

[Chuck Hast]

Do you still have this one? I have been thinking about it and might spring
for it, I would pay the shipping to OKC.


Light wear T420 i7-2640M
8GB RAM
Seagate ST9500324AS 500GB
Webcam, light
Low-profile battery AND Extended battery
OEM Power Adapter
$200

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bill Weiss <pdxli...@houdini.spum.us>
wrote:

> Michael Dexter(dex...@ambidexter.com)@Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:48:31PM
> -0700:
> > On 10/23/17 1:24 PM, Bill Weiss wrote:
> > > What are the screens on the X220s like? I have one that's got a flaky
> > > screen. IIRC there are a couple of different options there.
> >
> > All are in good shape with regards to the screens and are all available.
> >
> > Alas, I do not know the definitive way of telling if a system has an IPS
> > screen. In theory my latest one is IPS but it is indistinguishable from
> > one that does not claim to be IPS.
> >
> > You are welcome to see them.
>
> Rad. I'd love to take the cheapest one of them that has the IPS :) Happy
> to poke through to see. The extended battery and OEM power adapter would
> also be great.
>
> If you wanted to send serial numbers over I could do some research, or I
> can just arrange to come see them some time. I'm going to cannibalize for
> parts, so if anyone else wants some, I would make you a good deal :)
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Re: [PLUG] ThinkPads for sale

[Chuck Hast]

I wish I was still living there I would certainly be interested. Love
Thinkpads.
I have and X200, X201 and a X301...

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael Dexter <dex...@ambidexter.com>
wrote:

>
> Hey.
>
> I may clean out my ThinkPad X220's, three i5's, one Celeron.
>
> Most 4GB RAM, one 2GB. Misc drives.
>
> Someone need the lot of them to outfit the whole family?
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Re: [PLUG] Librem 5 dodopaddle

[Chuck Hast]

Now that I would like to have. Be nice not to have to deal with OS's that
you
do not know what they are doing, same goes for the silicon. I hope that this
one flies. Have to go look at their funding and try to help a wee bit.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Keith Lofstrom <kei...@kl-ic.com> wrote:

> This looks intriguing:
>
> http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Librem-5-and-
> the-Challenge-of-the-Free-Phone
>
> ... although as a "late adopter" for nonessentials,
> I'll wait to ask somebody else who has had one for
> six months, and seen a detailed engineering teardown.
>
> The most attractive aspects are the (claimed) hardware
> switches on the radios.  I would add an additional
> feature - a truly independent "broadcast detect"
> circuit that lights up (and stays on for perhaps 30
> seconds) when the device emits any form of broadcast.
>
> I would not trust a device completely unless it was
> open source silicon, with "hardware double entry
> accounting" for interface transactions between chips
> and subunits (counters in hardware matched to counters
> in the software, flags raised if extra bytes are
> unaccounted for), but that won't happen until a rich
> privacy-obsessed geek pays for a lot of  chip
> design and manufacture.  I don't have that on this
> desktop computer, so I'm not holding my breath.
>
> I tried using a dodopaddle (functional description
> of a so called "smart phone") for a month;  I could
> not make it do what I wanted, as opposed to being
> seduced to do what the designers and sponsors wanted.
>
> I've watched other users lose their ability to navigate
> the world mentally, make independent decisions, create
> artwork and longform text, or respect others face to
> face.  These devices are not "smart", they just seem
> smarter and smarter as their fleshy appendages ( AKA
> "users") become less capable and more dependent.
> The Current Occupant was elected for his tweets.
>
> So ... I hope a truly libre phone will create a
> user community that owns the environment, rather
> living in Apple or Google company housing.  The
> latter might have prettier furnishings, but a jail
> is a jail, even if you can pick some of the locks.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Is there a DNS cache in the Comcast modem?

[Chuck Hast]

AM Thank you.
> > >
> > > Harpreet 11:55 AM Please follow the link I will provide you to flush
> the
> > > DNS
> > >
> > > Harpreet 11:55 AM You're welcome.
> > >
> > > 11:57 AM http://www.wikihow.com/Flush-DNS
> > >
> > > Harpreet 11:57 AM Please follow the link
> > >
> > > Denis 11:59 AM I do not think it has instructions for Linux.
> > >
> > > Harpreet 11:59 AM no worries
> > >
> > > 11:59 AM Let me check for the Linux
> > >
> > > Harpreet 12:00 PM
> > > https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rhel-debian-ubuntu-flush-
> clear-dns-cache/
> > >
> > > Harpreet 12:00 PM Please follow the link
> > >
> > > Denis 12:03 PM OK. This appears to have instructions for flushing the
> > cache
> > > in my computer, not in the modem. Is this correct? If so, we get back
> to
> > > the question of is there a DNS cache in the modem?
> > >
> > > Harpreet 12:06 PM Denis, if you want to flush your Modem's DNS I would
> > > request you please directly connect your device to the modem equipment
> > > using an Ethernet Cord
> > >
> > > Harpreet 12:07 PM Just for the confirmation, there is not DNS in the
> > modem
> > >
> > > Harpreet 12:07 PM this is a part of system
> > >
> > > Harpreet 12:08 PM it is Domain Name Server
> > >
> > > Denis 12:10 PM OK. I know what DNS stands for. Local systems often
> > maintain
> > > a local cache of recently used sites. My original question was does my
> > > modem have such a cache. Now is seems your answer is No, it does not.
> Do
> > I
> > > understand you correctly?
> > >
> > > Harpreet 12:11 PM yes, you are
> > >
> > > Harpreet 12:14 PM Denis, I just wanted to clear you with the full of
> > > details about the DNS
> > >
> > > Harpreet 12:14 PM that is why it took time
> > >
> > > Denis 12:15 PM Thank you for the education.
> > >
> > > Harpreet 12:15 PM You are most welcome
> > >
> > > Harpreet 12:16 PM I hope we have resolved all of your concern to your
> > > satisfaction today?
> > >
> > > Denis 12:16 PM I hope so.
> > >
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Re: [PLUG] Patch panel alternatives

[Chuck Hast]

As far as holding Keystone jacks, I found a device that you push one into
and
it holds it while you punch the wires down, I use a punch down tool and the
only thing I had was every once in a while I somehow messed up and punched
down a finger, after a few bloody ones, I found that tool that has been the
end
of that issue. The device is flat, made out of hard rubber and designed to
hold
a jack in place also has guides for the cable so you can keep control of the
cable going to the jack. You pre-dress your wires lay them in place and
start
punching down.

If you do not have a LOT of dmark points a couple of 6 keystone position
wall plates will make a nice small jack field. The house I rented had an
awful
wired installation, I just ran cat6 to the rooms of interest, bought me two
6
port wall plates and put them in the wall in the area in the garage where
the
router goes, done deal. I think the two plates cost me $2 each. Use low
voltage
wall boxes and you are done. Total cost less that $6.


On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 10:22 PM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote:

> My house is wired with cat6 rated cable and jacks, with several jacks
> in some of the rooms. I have a 16-port patch panel in the room that
> also has the internet connection and other stuff. The patch panel is a
> pain in the derrière. I find it nearly impossible to punch down wires
> in it well enough to get a good connection. It is a Trendnet purchased
> from that store in Wilsonville.
>
> At the same time I have little problem with keystone jacks, that is, as
> long as I stay away from the tool-less jacks, which I find impossible.
> (I don't have enough fingers that are small enough to hold everything
> at the same time). I am considering ditching the 16-port patch panel
> and getting a simple blank keystone jack holder, then pulling all the
> wires currently in the patch panel and putting them in keystone jacks
> instead.
>
> 1) Does this sound like a good idea?
>
> 2) I can get a 24-port blank keystone jack panel lots of places online,
> but does anyone know of any place where I can get one locally?
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Re: [PLUG] VOIP, NOMOROBO, POTS, FAX

[Chuck Hast]

See below:

On Sep 6, 2017 16:52, "Keith Lofstrom"  wrote:

Today, 10 spam calls since 630 AM, and Frontier says (after
half an hour on hold) that they can't block fake phone
numbers or "Out of area".  It's like the submitting a list
to the police of the 10 name-badge-wearing people you don't
want to kill you.  Time for a change.


I was getting a load of these on my cell, ended up installing an app that
blocks anything that  does not id. That took care of all but the spoofed
numbers, most of those are dumb enough to leave a real number for callback
so I have been able to get rid of more of them. I have not had  a landlines
on such a long time that I do not know what to tell you beyond the Asterisk
thing and let it do the filtering. But you said you have had enough pain
with asterisk.


Complications:  We've got a fax, which we use 3-5 times
per month, for HIPAA-sensitive stuff.  No internet fax
services are truly HIPAA compliant.


I find that so funny since fax has been breakable ever since the druggers
used to send "orders" over hf using fax machines and very expensive SSB
radios, some using pilot carrier to lock both ends. HIPAA, banks and
insurance companies still use fax believing it is not hackable.


We've got Frontier FIOS;  QOS goes to hell on "Netflix
Nights", but there may be a way to fix that, too.

Nomorobo.com (which depends on a VOIP connection) looks
interesting.  That means a VOIP link to the network.
Also, they are "free", which means somebody may be
paying them to listen in.

My vague idea, feedback and consulting help welcome:

1) We move our 503-xxx- phone number of 30 years
to a VOIP service, and connect that to nomorobo.com .

2) We buy a magic box to connect the existing house phone
wiring (POTS) and the FAX to the IP network.  Suggestions?


I used to use Vonage for that, they provide the loop and ring down for pots
phones and provide a port for fax machines. Since the encryption HIPAA puts
so much importance in is from end to end the link being Voip should not
matter.


 2a) We have a dozen wireless phones scattered around the
 house, and eventually the greenhouse, connected that way.


That is the way I had most of my phones that talked to the Vonage device.


 2b) We have a Sangoma card than might work in a small
 format PC with Asterisk, but I would rather have a
 simple box with outside tech support.  Asterisk;
 been there, done that, got the scars.  Too much work!


There were a lot of solutions based on Asterisk that simplified the whole
process, where I see the device being useful is in filtering the phone
spam.


3) PLUG puts together a SIG to think about how to do this.
Perhaps a few of us put together a businss.


4) We work to change the laws to make the carriers
responsible for the anonymous/fraudulent crap they insist
on passing through.  Their computers can (in principle) be
programmed to stop this crap if the end user requests it;
they steadfastly refuse.  These are $300/incident torts;
If every Oregonian gets 2 such calls per week, and 25%
are angry enough to do something about it, that is
100 million torts or $30 billion per year.  Frontier's
market cap is $1.1 billion, so Oregon owns them in two
weeks, other carriers with similar policies ditto.  We
sell the assets to new and responsible owners, and fund
the schools with the proceeds.


Wish in one hand, but creating a box to do a lot of that filtering would be
a good thing.
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Re: [PLUG] Wireless ISP

[Chuck Hast]

While I lived in Kelso, I tried to get Cascade to put a radio up on a tower
above
the place I lived, down in the valley where the house was there was no
coverage,
but up on the top of the ridge at the SW end of the property, there was
signal
above the trees, I was going to put up a tower, but they told me that they
only
installed on towers THEY put up, and they were not interested in going up a
hill to do so. I ended up with Hughesnet which sucks and blows at the same
time.

That said there are many possible options if you can find someone to work
with
up on the hillside above Kalama, perhaps paying for a larger pipe to
someone's
home and then adding a radio link from there out to where you are. I use
Ubiquiti equipment, you can start out with a lower speed link if it works
well you
can move to the high speed FDX systems they offer that are good out to at
least 200kM, line of sight, I would look at the airfibre5 as I am not sure
the
airfibre24 would do so well when there is a lot of water in the air. For
starters
you might want to look at the AirfibreX as that will be a lot less costly
than the
previous two and it will let you do some experimenting with the gear prior
to
putting down the higher cost of the AriFibre5. Indeed you may find that the
AirfibreX is all you need. The direct line distance from Kalama to Deer
Island
is between 5 and 6 miles depending on where the two ends are located. Indeed
a couple of bullets would certainly let you test the path, and it maybe all
you
need. Being half duplex you might have some issues with VoIP and video, but
sure would be a low cost way to pilot the path.

Be sure and do your coverage work and make sure your paths are well outside
of the first Fresnel zone and you should be good. Obviously no vegetation
in the
path either, that is a deal killer as is anything that protrudes into the
first Fresnel
zone. There are online tools that will do the path study work for you, you
may
have to add any new construction in the path.

Up at the east end of Taylor Road there is a tower, I am not sure who is on
it
but if you can get cable up to there that would be a great jumpoff point,
but
anywhere along the route up to there should have a great path to Deer
Island.

I know that the cable goes to within about 500ft of the tower, and maybe it
now
goes all the way up Taylor road, if not you can probably scavenge some fibre
and run fibre up there alongside the road. But I would try to see what I
could
negotiate anywhere there is a good view from Kalama to your Deer Island end
point.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:58 PM, Michael Barnes <barnmich...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Not exactly Linux related, but I need local advice. I have a location down
> river, up in the hills behind the Deer Island/Goble area that needs decent
> Internet access. We have gone round and round with the DSL provider up
> there with terrible results. We have also tried a couple satellite
> providers with unsatisfactory service. We do have a good view of the Kalama
> area and the hills above it in Washington. We might have to put up a tower
> of about 20 feet or so to shoot above the trees. We have a fair view of the
> former Trojan power plant site.
>
> The only wireless ISP I can find over there is Cascade Networks. They say
> in their advertising that they cover up and down the Oregon side from St.
> Helens to Rainier. I have seen some reviews of their service. They either
> run 5+ or <1. Some customers really love them and sing their praises, while
> others want them tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail. At this
> point, I'd even consider finding a business in the Kalama area that has a
> really fat pipe of Enterprise Metro Ethernet, sub-lease some bandwidth, and
> put up some dishes and Ubiquity bullets to shoot across the river.
>
> Suggestions, comments, and recommendations appreciated.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Locating an ODF author

[Chuck Hast]

That was his address in a series of emails I googled up, it has been a while
but perhaps the email is still good.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You might give this addy a try:
>
> Mariano Casanova (mcasan...@instituto-hispano.org)
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Roderick Anderson <raander...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I think I danced all around this page. Even tried a search but
>> with
>> no luck.
>>
>> To those that suggested Calibre, I tried but had limited success.  The
>> info
>> was there but formatting problems would require a lot of editing. Of
>> course
>> it may still come down to that. I was kind of hoping to turn it back to
>> the
>> ODF so others would benefit from the tutorial without a major printing
>> job.
>>
>> Galen, again thanks.
>>
>> Rod
>> --
>>
>>
>> On September 5, 2017 12:20:47 Galen Seitz <gal...@seitzassoc.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 09/05/17 11:47, Roderick Anderson wrote:
>> >> I am trying to contact the author of a 'LibreOffice Base' tutorial.
>> >>
>> >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/02/Base_tutorial.pdf
>> >>
>> >> I just ventured into designing an application for a local non-profit
>> >> organization.  To make it portable across Windows, MACs, & Linux
>> systems
>> >> I figured LibreOffice Base made sense.  (More so now that I've got
>> into it.)
>> >>
>> >> The last time I tried to work with Base I got basically to the corner
>> of
>> >> No and Where.  I'm not new to database design and application coding
>> but
>> >> have not been active for close to 10 years.
>> >>
>> >> This tutorial so far has been great.  The author is covering some
>> basics
>> >> that I know but find it easy reading.  The problem is it is a PDF and
>> >> doesn't play well on a smartphone, tablet, or Kindle.  I was hoping
>> that
>> >> it could be converted into an ebook format.
>> >>
>> >> So to the actual question.  How do I locate Mariano Casanova?  Nothing
>> >> (email, etc.) in the document and a Google search turns up a site in
>> >> Spanish for a guy born in 1833, a Facebook listing of lots of Mariano
>> >> Casanovas, an IMDB listing, and a singer.
>> >>
>> >> Is the Mariano Casanova a pen name?
>> >>
>> >> Any suggestions and other ways to search?
>> >
>> > Perhaps Andrew 'Drew' Jensen could help.  Looks like he has worked with
>> > Mariano on documentation.
>> >   drewjensen.in...@gmail.com ?
>> >
>> > <https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Database>
>> >
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Re: [PLUG] Locating an ODF author

[Chuck Hast]

You might give this addy a try:

Mariano Casanova (mcasan...@instituto-hispano.org)


On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Roderick Anderson <raander...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks. I think I danced all around this page. Even tried a search but with
> no luck.
>
> To those that suggested Calibre, I tried but had limited success.  The info
> was there but formatting problems would require a lot of editing. Of course
> it may still come down to that. I was kind of hoping to turn it back to the
> ODF so others would benefit from the tutorial without a major printing job.
>
> Galen, again thanks.
>
> Rod
> --
>
>
> On September 5, 2017 12:20:47 Galen Seitz <gal...@seitzassoc.com> wrote:
>
> > On 09/05/17 11:47, Roderick Anderson wrote:
> >> I am trying to contact the author of a 'LibreOffice Base' tutorial.
> >>
> >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/02/Base_tutorial.pdf
> >>
> >> I just ventured into designing an application for a local non-profit
> >> organization.  To make it portable across Windows, MACs, & Linux systems
> >> I figured LibreOffice Base made sense.  (More so now that I've got into
> it.)
> >>
> >> The last time I tried to work with Base I got basically to the corner of
> >> No and Where.  I'm not new to database design and application coding but
> >> have not been active for close to 10 years.
> >>
> >> This tutorial so far has been great.  The author is covering some basics
> >> that I know but find it easy reading.  The problem is it is a PDF and
> >> doesn't play well on a smartphone, tablet, or Kindle.  I was hoping that
> >> it could be converted into an ebook format.
> >>
> >> So to the actual question.  How do I locate Mariano Casanova?  Nothing
> >> (email, etc.) in the document and a Google search turns up a site in
> >> Spanish for a guy born in 1833, a Facebook listing of lots of Mariano
> >> Casanovas, an IMDB listing, and a singer.
> >>
> >> Is the Mariano Casanova a pen name?
> >>
> >> Any suggestions and other ways to search?
> >
> > Perhaps Andrew 'Drew' Jensen could help.  Looks like he has worked with
> > Mariano on documentation.
> >   drewjensen.in...@gmail.com ?
> >
> > <https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Database>
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Suggestions for featherweight laptop

[Chuck Hast]

I have dualbooted the X200 with both Linux and Win7 pro. Worked quite well
but I prefer to load it up with RAM and run windows in a VM, works better in
my view.

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Sep 2017, Dave Lien - W7DAL wrote:
>
> > Does the ThinkPad X200 dual-boot Linux OK for you?  Dave.
>
> Dave,
>
>I've no idea as I run only linux on it; haven't done M$ in 20 years
> now. A
> web search might find the answer for you.
>
>If you'll allow a suggestion, replace the existing hard drive with a
> large
> Samsung SSD, install linux and use qemu to build a virtual machine. Then
> you
> can install Windows in that. Benefits include: faster and better Windows
> performance with greatly reduced risk of crashes, booting only a single OS
> (no dual boot issues), and now having faster, larger disk storage.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Mysteries of DNS

[Chuck Hast]

Mike,
Thank you, I think that the issue is with the Mikrotik. I think I may have
a manged
stanza in the fire wall.. This got me aimed the right direction.

I have for the time being put in a home router with openWRT in it, it is
doing fine
now I will take my time and tear into the mikrotik and see what is going on.


On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Mike C. <mconno...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/24/17 8:40 AM, plug-requ...@lists.pdxlinux.org wrote:
> > Folks,
> > I thought I had my Mikrotik router setup right, indeed it was doing just
> > fine, I did
> > an upgrade on it and all of a sudden my linux boxes no longer keep the
> DNS
> > When I first reboot the router it appears to tell everyone about DNS, I
> can
> > set
> > for a while on my Linux boxen and go everywhere, then all of a sudden
> each
> > one of them no longer resolves, interesting thing is the Android devices
> DO
> > continue to resolve just fine.
> >
> > Anyone seen that one. I am running Mate on Ubuntu 16.04 all machines are
> up
> > to date as far as I know.
> Here's how I'd go about troubleshooting this.
>
> When your Linux boxen can't get dns name resolution do the following.
> 1. Go to cli and run the command "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
> e.g.
> cat /etc/resolv.conf
> # Generated by NetworkManager
> nameserver 8.8.8.8
> nameserver 8.8.4.4
>
> 2. Is the nameserver ip addr the same ip addr of the microtik router? If
> no, there's most likely a config problem.
>
> 3. If yes, ping the ip addr of the nameserver
>
> 4. If it doesn't respond, there's a network communication issue between
> the two devices.
>
> 5. If it does respond, run the command, "nslookup google.com". Does the
> command provide a non-authoritative answer?
> e.g.
> nslookup google.com
> Server:8.8.8.8
> Address:8.8.8.8#53
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name:google.com
> Address: 216.58.193.78
>
> 6. If no, login in to the Microtik and run the same command.
>
> 7. If the Microtik replies with a non-authoritative answer I'd take a
> look at this thread about dnsmasq.
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/131342/dnsmasq-sometimes-resolves-things-
> sometimes-it-doesnt
>
> That should be a good start in running down this problem.
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Re: [PLUG] local source for barrel connectors

[Chuck Hast]

I gave up on buying them, just ordered them from Amazon or Ebay, had them
the next day, there are a boat load of sellers. Some near enough to get them
to you next day with no extra charge.

Make sure you get the right pin and barrel dimensions, measure them BOTH.

Used to build laser luminaires for glass container inspection machines, used
two different sizes for the different voltages on the diodes.

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, John Meissen wrote:
>
> >> Grainger Industrial Supplies or Platt Electric might carry them.
> >
> > Are these places that sell retail? I'm looking for parts for a small
> personal
> > project.
>
> John,
>
>I don't know about Grainger, but I've purchased a few things at the
> Platt
> store in Gresham. I've also purchased glass labware at a wholesale
> distributor because there is no local retailer. My experience has been that
> if it's a one-off sale and not a regular practice they'll accommodate you.
> They still make money on the sale (perhaps enough for a coffee or two.)
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Re: [PLUG] Linux on NUC?

[Chuck Hast]

I was going to say anyone who uses Raspberry Pi's knows to keep a few
hdmi > vga dongles around. I probably have 3 here in different cases.

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:43 AM, Russell Senior <russ...@personaltelco.net>
wrote:

> >>>>> "Tomas" == Tomas Kuchta <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Tomas> Forgot to mention DisplayPort and HDMI output, but you could get
> Tomas> cheap dongle to feed dvi/vga screen.
>
> Ah, yeah.
>
> FWIW, I'm thinking about something like this:
>
>   https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16856102185
>
> The 16gig of NVMe should be all I need for local storage, actually.
>
> I'd need to add DDR4 and a video dongle.
>
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Re: [PLUG] I'm shopping for hardware, what about Lenovo?

[Chuck Hast]

I started to say something about the Toughbooks, I saw a lot of them at my
utility customers, but they are not cheap, but they are very very hard to
break
I have a pix somewhere of one that a bucket truck backed over, it was messed
up but still worked. I think that happened up at Montana Dakota Utilities
(MDU)
or CLECO, can not remember it was too long ago.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Merlin Hold <merlin.h...@pcc.edu> wrote:

> Thinkpads are awesome.
>
> If you need a laptop that lasts a long time and can take a beating, I would
> look at the Panasonic Toughbook line.  Those laptops are made to be
> durable.  If you know anything about the Panasonic products is that they
> last forever and a day.  I bought a Panasonic Microwave and it has lasted
> me a good 8 years or more.
>
> Merlin
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:24 AM, Vedanta Teacher <
> orevedantateac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The hard drive was tested and was fine.
> >
> > Paul W.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Bill Barry <waba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Aug 23, 2017 7:54 PM, "Vedanta Teacher" <
> orevedantateac...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Everyone,
> > >
> > >   My Dell Insperon 15.6" that I was going to use in school this
> > > September just died (the Motherboard no longer recognized
> > > the Hd).
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you sure it is not just a bad hard drive? Will it boot from a DVD
> or
> > > USB drive?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I need reliability & durability more than anything. I'll need it
> > > to last at least 1 year.
> > >
> > > I'll be going to school for Software Engineering & Embedded
> > > systems e.g. HTML, Perl, Unix, etc, etc.
> > >
> > > I was thinking about replacing it with a Lenovo ThinkPad T570:
> > >
> > > 15.6" display
> > >
> > > 32 GB DDR4 2133Mhz SoDIMM Ram
> > >
> > > For the hard drive they show :
> > >
> > > Intel 180GB SSD 2.5 SATA3,OPAL2.0
> > > or
> > > 512 GB SSD OPAL2.0 PCle-NVMe
> > >
> > > (The 1 Tb version is $140 more.)
> > >
> > > Q: What is the difference between
> > >
> > > SATA3,OPAL2.0 & PCle-NVMe?
> > >
> > > As an OS I'll probably be running Linux Mint, I just don't have
> > > time to tinker with new operating bases at this point.
> > >
> > > Blessings,
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Re: [PLUG] I'm shopping for hardware, what about Lenovo?

[Chuck Hast]

I love thinkpads, they are my favorite box for doing radio coverage studies,
I had a couple of months to give a batch of them a real road test when I did
a coverage study for ConEd. We had a bunch of them and a Toshiba, the
latter did not fare well on the streets of NYC, nor the rural roads of
Westchester,
Orange Rockland, and the whole northern  set of NJ counties that formed the
ConEd/Orange and Rockland service area. The Thinkpads came through with
flying colors, they are really designed to deal with rough handling.

I have a 201X and a 301X. I also have a 200 that I want to rebuild the back
light
with LED.


On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Vedanta Teacher <
orevedantateac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The hard drive was tested and was fine.
>
> Paul W.
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Bill Barry <waba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 23, 2017 7:54 PM, "Vedanta Teacher" <orevedantateac...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Everyone,
> >
> >   My Dell Insperon 15.6" that I was going to use in school this
> > September just died (the Motherboard no longer recognized
> > the Hd).
> >
> >
> > Are you sure it is not just a bad hard drive? Will it boot from a DVD or
> > USB drive?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > I need reliability & durability more than anything. I'll need it
> > to last at least 1 year.
> >
> > I'll be going to school for Software Engineering & Embedded
> > systems e.g. HTML, Perl, Unix, etc, etc.
> >
> > I was thinking about replacing it with a Lenovo ThinkPad T570:
> >
> > 15.6" display
> >
> > 32 GB DDR4 2133Mhz SoDIMM Ram
> >
> > For the hard drive they show :
> >
> > Intel 180GB SSD 2.5 SATA3,OPAL2.0
> > or
> > 512 GB SSD OPAL2.0 PCle-NVMe
> >
> > (The 1 Tb version is $140 more.)
> >
> > Q: What is the difference between
> >
> > SATA3,OPAL2.0 & PCle-NVMe?
> >
> > As an OS I'll probably be running Linux Mint, I just don't have
> > time to tinker with new operating bases at this point.
> >
> > Blessings,
> > Paul W.
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[PLUG] Mysteries of DNS

[Chuck Hast]

Folks,
I thought I had my Mikrotik router setup right, indeed it was doing just
fine, I did
an upgrade on it and all of a sudden my linux boxes no longer keep the DNS
When I first reboot the router it appears to tell everyone about DNS, I can
set
for a while on my Linux boxen and go everywhere, then all of a sudden each
one of them no longer resolves, interesting thing is the Android devices DO
continue to resolve just fine.

Anyone seen that one. I am running Mate on Ubuntu 16.04 all machines are up
to date as far as I know.


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Re: [PLUG] Alternative to cable (or dish) - was [Re: Stupid ISP...]

[Chuck Hast]

Well, I ended  up going with Cox, they were good did not try to upsell me
any-
thing. I told them at the outset that all I wanted was network
connectivity, that
is what they sold me, in the process they made very clear that if I wanted
to
use my own cable modem there was no problem, I just did so and they were
quite happy to put mine on line and had ALREADY removed the Cox modem
from my account when I took it back. After dealing with AT Uverse, I can
assure you that was not the case with them. I have been using AT wireless
for ages, and they have always been great, if I need something or to unlock
a
phone because I am going out of the country, they do it. Issue with
something
on the phone, they get it fixed for me. But the Uverse side of the house is
a
nightmare Will NEVER go there again unless someone can show reason.


On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Aug 2017, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> > I found a competent salesman at the local T-Mobile store who actually
> > _listened_ to my needs/desires. They had had a cell modem in their
> product
> > mix but were no longer offering it. He suggested a "4G LTE HotSpot Z915"
> > ...
>
>I have a tiny USB Verizon hotspot I've used when a hotel or association
> meeting facility wants to charge a high fee for wifi access. Works great
> with my Treo 700p.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

[Chuck Hast]

That is the way to go. I have a 2nd battery in the van, there is a Anderson
power pole hanging off of that battery and a bunch of breakers for other
devices. I try to use the receptacles for low power quick use things.

I tested out a ID-5100 but quickly moved it to the Anderson Power Pole be-
cause the I^2R loss was so great through the connector (about 1.5-2v) that
all I did was test the radio at low power then move it to its proper place.

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Dave <w7...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Yep. I've most recently run an FT-857D off the receptacle but at reduced
> power. Ran full power for a bit just to see what would happen but
> quickly backed off. Use a direct battery tap for serious work. 73.
>
>
> On 8/22/2017 12:41 PM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > Yes I bet that most of us amateur radio people have cooked at least one
> cig
> > lighter receptacle, usually with a high power radio. I did one about a
> year
> > ago.
> > Forgot to move it over to a Anderson power pole I had installed and
> smoked
> > the receptacle.
> >
> > Sine wave good, square wave bad, way bad... Modified sine wave is still a
> > square wave, it just puts the transition off in time, but it is still
> ugly.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:24 AM, David <w7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Be careful drawing that much power out of a cigarette lighter. The
> >> connection will get hotter than a pistol! It is not meant to handle that
> >> much current for more than a minute or so at time. 3 or 4 amps is a good
> >> long term maximum, which is still 40 or 50 watts. Been there ... done
> >> that. -Dave.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/22/2017 12:25 AM, Tom wrote:
> >>> I solved this kind of portability, and more, by purchasing an inverter.
> >>> I find that way more universal than trying to get stuff working on
> >>> battery power with unstable voltage. True 110V socket in the car is
> >>> awesome for road and marine trips. The size of the inverter is about
> >>> 15x20x5cm.
> >>> If you chose to go this route, I would advice to get true sine wave
> >>> inverter. It costs 2-3x more but it works way better than the square
> >>> and/or modified sine wave inverters. They (not the true sine wave one)
> >>> caused my power bricks + the inverter to overheat and it was bloody
> >>> noisy. You can draw max 15A out of lighter socket in the car so 120
> >>> -150W inverter is all you can feed without wiring it directly to the
> >>> battery. I got it in Frys' after returning the cheaper modified sine
> >>> wave one.
> >>> Hope it helps, Tomas
> >>> On Sun, 2017-08-20 at 23:08 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote:
> >>>> Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer
> >>>> that
> >>>> would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly
> >>>> -away
> >>>> package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power.
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave <w7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here's a follow-up report:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It
> >>>>> claims
> >>>>> //
> >>>>> //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB.
> >>>>> For $29
> >>>>> it's //
> >>>>> //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition
> >>>>> to a //
> >>>>> //stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
> >>>>> /
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to
> >>>>> make
> >>>>> sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
> >>>>>
> >>&g

Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

[Chuck Hast]

Yes I bet that most of us amateur radio people have cooked at least one cig
lighter receptacle, usually with a high power radio. I did one about a year
ago.
Forgot to move it over to a Anderson power pole I had installed and smoked
the receptacle.

Sine wave good, square wave bad, way bad... Modified sine wave is still a
square wave, it just puts the transition off in time, but it is still ugly.

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:24 AM, David <w7...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Be careful drawing that much power out of a cigarette lighter. The
> connection will get hotter than a pistol! It is not meant to handle that
> much current for more than a minute or so at time. 3 or 4 amps is a good
> long term maximum, which is still 40 or 50 watts. Been there ... done
> that. -Dave.
>
>
> On 8/22/2017 12:25 AM, Tom wrote:
> > I solved this kind of portability, and more, by purchasing an inverter.
> > I find that way more universal than trying to get stuff working on
> > battery power with unstable voltage. True 110V socket in the car is
> > awesome for road and marine trips. The size of the inverter is about
> > 15x20x5cm.
> > If you chose to go this route, I would advice to get true sine wave
> > inverter. It costs 2-3x more but it works way better than the square
> > and/or modified sine wave inverters. They (not the true sine wave one)
> > caused my power bricks + the inverter to overheat and it was bloody
> > noisy. You can draw max 15A out of lighter socket in the car so 120
> > -150W inverter is all you can feed without wiring it directly to the
> > battery. I got it in Frys' after returning the cheaper modified sine
> > wave one.
> > Hope it helps, Tomas
> > On Sun, 2017-08-20 at 23:08 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote:
> >> Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer
> >> that
> >> would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly
> >> -away
> >> package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power.
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave <w7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html
> >>>
> >>> Here's a follow-up report:
> >>>
> >>> /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It
> >>> claims
> >>> //
> >>> //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB.
> >>> For $29
> >>> it's //
> >>> //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition
> >>> to a //
> >>> //stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
> >>> /
> >>> ---
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to
> >>> make
> >>> sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.
> >>>
> >>> The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following
> >>> the
> >>> detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:
> >>>
> >>> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
> >>>
> >>> They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some
> >>> ???
> >>> file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.)
> >>>
> >>> The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password.
> >>> If I
> >>> had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root*
> >>> and
> >>> made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up
> >>> front
> >>> before beginning the software install to get it out of the way.
> >>>
> >>> I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of
> >>> printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't
> >>> perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab
> >>> to
> >>> that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on
> >>> the
> >>> screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than
> >>> it
> >>> should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing
> >>> something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3
> >>> Install,
> >>> this ain't bad.
> >>>
> >>> Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to
> >>&g

Re: [PLUG] ENU,Inc R.I.P.

[Chuck Hast]

I was over in Honolulu abt this time last year, needed some parts was
directed to a place not too far from the seafood plant where I was, walked
in and found one of those type of emporiums. Had some in the Tampa Bay area
and Orlando (cape surplus stuff) sure miss that.

On Aug 13, 2017 13:57, "Rich Shepard"  wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Edward Koenig wrote:
>
> > I really do miss the days browsing the local shops for part to build my
> > own boxes.
>
>When I had my ham radio license and built my own transmitters and
> receivers I used to go down to Canal St (NYC) and rummage in the bins for
> the resistors, capacitors, switches, vacuum tubes, etc. I needed. No
> blister
> packs; buy only what you need. Those days are gone. To a large extent, I
> miss them.
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Re: [PLUG] Clinic - Raspberry Pi

[Chuck Hast]

Give them a call and talk to them, tell them what you are looking for.
I was talking to them about a case to hold the RPi and a packet controller,
I need to pick it back up. They told me to drop by and take a look at what
they had,  but I have moved to OKC so have to wait until I can get back up
there for a job so I can drop by.  The packet card is same size as RPi, so
they figured something could be conjured up.

Buy local.

On Aug 11, 2017 4:55 PM, "Nat Taylor" <biob...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Those cases are sweet.  They don't appear to have one that holds the Pi and
> a 7" touchscreen though.
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > By way folks, here is a commercial plug for a local (NW) company that
> makes
> > great cases:
> >
> > C4 Labs
> > https://c4labs.net/
> >
> > If you need cases these folks probably have it and if they do not they
> will
> > work
> > with you to come up with it. It is all made right here in the USA, no
> > Chinese
> > stuff.
> >
> > They even have 4 and 6 tower stacked cases (Bramble Box) for RPi
> Clusters.
> > They are located in Tacoma, WA. Great folks.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Dave <w7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > /.//..use a wireless keyboard and mouse.../
> > >
> > > What model combo are you using, Nat? I might be in the market.
> > >
> > > Same with your screen? I see all sorts of claims to be "official".
> > >
> > > -Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/11/2017 10:37 AM, Nat Taylor wrote:
> > > > I'm pretty well versed with the Pi.  Mine is in a little case with
> the
> > > > official 7" screen.  I use a 2 watt phone charger to power it
> > > > generally, and use a wireless keyboard and mouse that kinda looks
> like
> > > > a game controller..  I'd be happy to bring the keyboard and mouse if
> I
> > > > can make the PLUG meeting, never actually been to one, I just lurk
> > > > here on the mailing list.  I cant remember if the display I have
> > > > requires special drivers or not, I'd imagine not by now, since it's
> > > > official.  It might make sense to use a monitor more like the one you
> > > > plan on using?   But you could put your pi in my case with monitor,
> or
> > > > just put your SD card in my pi in my case
> > > >
> > > > This is the case: https://smarticase.com/products/smartipi-touch
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:44 AM, DAL <davidl...@comcast.net
> > > > <mailto:davidl...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would like a little hands-on help and chat time with my new
> > > > Raspberry
> > > > Pi and wonder if there will be a plug and play workstation set up
> > > > at the
> > > > next Clinic so I can just slip it in a pocket and bring it along
> > > > without
> > > > hauling along the rest. Thanks.
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [PLUG] Clinic - Raspberry Pi

[Chuck Hast]

By way folks, here is a commercial plug for a local (NW) company that makes
great cases:

C4 Labs
https://c4labs.net/

If you need cases these folks probably have it and if they do not they will
work
with you to come up with it. It is all made right here in the USA, no
Chinese
stuff.

They even have 4 and 6 tower stacked cases (Bramble Box) for RPi Clusters.
They are located in Tacoma, WA. Great folks.

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Dave <w7...@comcast.net> wrote:

> /.//..use a wireless keyboard and mouse.../
>
> What model combo are you using, Nat? I might be in the market.
>
> Same with your screen? I see all sorts of claims to be "official".
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
> On 8/11/2017 10:37 AM, Nat Taylor wrote:
> > I'm pretty well versed with the Pi.  Mine is in a little case with the
> > official 7" screen.  I use a 2 watt phone charger to power it
> > generally, and use a wireless keyboard and mouse that kinda looks like
> > a game controller..  I'd be happy to bring the keyboard and mouse if I
> > can make the PLUG meeting, never actually been to one, I just lurk
> > here on the mailing list.  I cant remember if the display I have
> > requires special drivers or not, I'd imagine not by now, since it's
> > official.  It might make sense to use a monitor more like the one you
> > plan on using?   But you could put your pi in my case with monitor, or
> > just put your SD card in my pi in my case
> >
> > This is the case: https://smarticase.com/products/smartipi-touch
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:44 AM, DAL <davidl...@comcast.net
> > <mailto:davidl...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> > I would like a little hands-on help and chat time with my new
> > Raspberry
> > Pi and wonder if there will be a plug and play workstation set up
> > at the
> > next Clinic so I can just slip it in a pocket and bring it along
> > without
> > hauling along the rest. Thanks.
> > ___
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> > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <mailto:PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org>
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Chuck Hast]

I did a M92 about 4 years ago, put Ubuntu on it for a church. They use it
to control a very large screen, and to run audio and video. I did not have
any issues with the install that I can remember, it has been a while since I
did it so it is pretty hazy. Even set it up with Compiz so they could have
multiple desktops and just flip the screen around (kids loved the cube).


On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 12:00 AM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 18:26:56 -0700
> Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtm...@gmail.com> dijo:
>
> >I figured out how to get to the bios.  There is not boot-order option
> >I am accustomed to--the order is set by properties UEFI/legacy rather
> >than CD/HD, etc.  I set it to legacy, but it still did not boot the
> >CD.  UEFI is disabled as well.  I guess I need to explore other
> >options.  Ideas?
>
> This will probably not help, but here goes anyway. On my current laptop
> there are two boot options: one takes you to the BIOS and the other (F7)
> gives you a list of devices from which you can select the one to boot
> to. But this is not a Thinkpad. :(
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Re: [PLUG] Stupid ISP...

[Chuck Hast]

Can't do it, that was one of the first things I tried to do. They have it
all hardwired
on. I checking the other ISP options, making sure that whatever I get
allows me
to change those things I need to change. Shudder, Cox is looking a lot
better in
this case.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Alan <a...@clueserver.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 2017-08-02 at 16:47 -0500, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > Folks,
> > I have moved from SW WA to Oklahoma City. Miss the area up there but
> > got to
> > go where the $$ is.
> >
> > I have run into a problem, it is with the ISP. Seems that they no
> > longer
> > allow you
> > to plug in your prefered DNS. I was having issues with their DNS I
> > have
> > called
> > them on it, and they poke at it but no joy. Yesterday I could get to
> > about
> > half
> > to the URL's that I either tried to reach from a browser or ping.
> > After much
> > phone calls, to no avail I did a MTR on the two DNS which are
> > HARDWIRED
> > in the router. I found that the primary DNS was good but 4 hops out
> > there
> > is  a router with a high packet loss. To wit:
> >
>
> Turn off DNS. Used fixed IPs for everything behind the router. Use a
> VPN to tunnel past your ISPs crappy infrastructure.
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[PLUG] Stupid ISP...

[Chuck Hast]

Folks,
I have moved from SW WA to Oklahoma City. Miss the area up there but got to
go where the $$ is.

I have run into a problem, it is with the ISP. Seems that they no longer
allow you
to plug in your prefered DNS. I was having issues with their DNS I have
called
them on it, and they poke at it but no joy. Yesterday I could get to about
half
to the URL's that I either tried to reach from a browser or ping. After much
phone calls, to no avail I did a MTR on the two DNS which are HARDWIRED
in the router. I found that the primary DNS was good but 4 hops out there
is  a router with a high packet loss. To wit:

kp4djt64 (0.0.0.0)
Wed Aug  2 16:36:05 2017
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit

 Packets   Pings
 HostLoss%
  Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 192.168.7.1   0.0%
  1470.5   0.6   0.5   1.5   0.0
 2. 108-76-202-1.lightspeed.okcbok.sbcglobal.net (108.76.202.1)   0.0%
  147   19.8  37.7  19.2 165.2  29.7
 3. 71.147.108.44 0.0%
  147   20.7  21.0  19.9  26.4   0.7
 4. 71.147.64.52 90.3%
  146   21.1  20.6  19.8  21.4   0.0
 5. 12.83.71.77   0.0%
  146   23.8  22.4  19.5  24.9   1.1
 6. gar3.auttx.ip.att.net (12.122.100.125)0.0%
  146   27.2  63.0  26.0 4997. 411.2
 7. 12.120.51.106 0.0%
  146   26.2  27.2  26.2  35.7   1.1
 8. dns156r9.sbcglobal.net (68.94.156.9)  0.0%
  146   27.9  29.9  26.3 126.7  13.5

That one has gone as high as 95%+.

Now here is the secondary DNS, Lord help you if the query gets sent to it:

 My traceroute  [v0.86]
kp4djt64 (0.0.0.0)
Wed Aug  2 16:41:53 2017
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit

 Packets   Pings
 HostLoss%
  Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. homeportal (192.168.7.1)  0.0%
  1380.9   2.9   0.5  20.9   4.8
 2. 108-76-202-1.lightspeed.okcbok.sbcglobal.net (108.76.202.1)   0.0%
  138   33.2  41.5  19.4 139.6  33.4
 3. 71.147.108.44 0.0%
  138   20.8  21.0  20.0  23.4   0.3
 4. 71.147.64.52 90.5%
  138   20.6  20.4  19.9  21.2   0.0
 5. 12.83.71.77   0.0%
  138   21.3  22.4  19.7  27.2   1.2
 6. gar27.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.129.221)   0.0%
  138   65.0  66.2  63.9  69.3   1.1
 7. ???
 8. iraca1cce9-irb-2.infra.cdn.att.net (204.127.179.5)0.0%
  137   65.2  64.3  62.9  90.0   2.8
 9. dns157r9.sbcglobal.net (68.94.157.9) 44.5%
  137   63.9  66.4  63.5  82.1   4.4

As you can see not only is router #4 dropping packets but the DNS server is
also
in trouble. I have tried to contact them Customer service wants to dump me
to
a billed repair service, for something that is their issue.

Since the router has the DNS hard wired I cannot change it, and the quick
fix is
just to fix the router in the path.

For the time I guess I am going to put the DNS in my main computer and let
it
do it's own queries, but all of the rest of them either I will have to do
the same
or live with it. I looked at putting another router in behind the AT
router, but
that drops me into double NAT ground and I do not want that.

I am trying to figure out how to get around this customer service mess to
get this
info to a real network person who can get it fixed. My other option is to
go with
the cable co (Cox) but I was trying to avoid them too.

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Re: [PLUG] Upgrading rooted Samsung Android phone

[Chuck Hast]

The table in question is the Samsung Note 10.1 WiFi (2012) The model #
is GT-N8013. They hit around it but not it. There were a lot of them bought
but we got dropped as once the Jan 2013 upgrade went out there was no
more upgrades, there were some updates, so if you have apps or code that
needs a newer version of Android then 4.1.2 you are done.


On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alas, no Note 10.1 Wifi (2012) For some reason those of us who bought it
> were abandoned by Samsung on that one as the last upgrade came out in
> Jan 2013. These guys do not support it either. So bad because us poor
> buggers
> that bought the thing paid a king's ransom for it. It is still a great
> unit, but needs
> to be upgraded. I have been told that the device got "crunched" in the
> Apple
> Samsung fight back about that time.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 6:27 PM, David Bridges <dbrid...@austin.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If you device is supported I think that LineageOS is a great option.
>> You can see if your device is support at the following link.
>>
>> https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
>>
>> By default the device is not rooted but it can be added although I
>> personally do not have a need for it.
>>
>> The particular device you mentioned does appear to be supported and
>> from looking over the information at the following page for the Galaxy
>> Note 3 (T-Mobile)(hltetmo) the installation of 14.1 (based on Nougat)
>> should be fairly straightforward.
>>
>> https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/hltetmo
>>
>> --
>> David
>>
>> On Fri, 2017-07-07 at 21:03 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>> > If you're rooted you can't do it in the usual way (over the air) - if
>> > you go into System Settings > General > About Device > Software
>> > Update
>> > you get "Your device has been modified, software updates are not
>> > available,"
>> >
>> > According to internet advice you can upgrade a rooted Android phone
>> > with Kies, a Samsung app normally used to sync your phone with your
>> > computer. Unfortunately, you must install Kies on a Windows or a Mac
>> > computer. Just as well - the last thing I'd ever want to do is sync
>> > my
>> > phone with my computer.
>> >
>> > My phone is a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (now KitKat 4.4.2),
>> > which
>> > I have loved since I got it three or four years ago. I paid someone
>> > $10
>> > to root it for me because I couldn't figure out how to do it myself.
>> > Being rooted is great - for example, I uninstalled the texting app so
>> > I
>> > can no longer receive the spam text messages from the carrier (now
>> > Metro
>> > PCS).
>> >
>> > If anyone knows how to upgrade a rooted KitKat phone to Lollipop or
>> > later, I'm all ears. And if no one here knows, maybe this could be
>> > addressed at the next Clinic.
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Re: [PLUG] Upgrading rooted Samsung Android phone

[Chuck Hast]

Alas, no Note 10.1 Wifi (2012) For some reason those of us who bought it
were abandoned by Samsung on that one as the last upgrade came out in
Jan 2013. These guys do not support it either. So bad because us poor
buggers
that bought the thing paid a king's ransom for it. It is still a great
unit, but needs
to be upgraded. I have been told that the device got "crunched" in the Apple
Samsung fight back about that time.


On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 6:27 PM, David Bridges <dbrid...@austin.rr.com>
wrote:

> If you device is supported I think that LineageOS is a great option.
> You can see if your device is support at the following link.
>
> https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
>
> By default the device is not rooted but it can be added although I
> personally do not have a need for it.
>
> The particular device you mentioned does appear to be supported and
> from looking over the information at the following page for the Galaxy
> Note 3 (T-Mobile)(hltetmo) the installation of 14.1 (based on Nougat)
> should be fairly straightforward.
>
> https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/hltetmo
>
> --
> David
>
> On Fri, 2017-07-07 at 21:03 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> > If you're rooted you can't do it in the usual way (over the air) - if
> > you go into System Settings > General > About Device > Software
> > Update
> > you get "Your device has been modified, software updates are not
> > available,"
> >
> > According to internet advice you can upgrade a rooted Android phone
> > with Kies, a Samsung app normally used to sync your phone with your
> > computer. Unfortunately, you must install Kies on a Windows or a Mac
> > computer. Just as well - the last thing I'd ever want to do is sync
> > my
> > phone with my computer.
> >
> > My phone is a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (now KitKat 4.4.2),
> > which
> > I have loved since I got it three or four years ago. I paid someone
> > $10
> > to root it for me because I couldn't figure out how to do it myself.
> > Being rooted is great - for example, I uninstalled the texting app so
> > I
> > can no longer receive the spam text messages from the carrier (now
> > Metro
> > PCS).
> >
> > If anyone knows how to upgrade a rooted KitKat phone to Lollipop or
> > later, I'm all ears. And if no one here knows, maybe this could be
> > addressed at the next Clinic.
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Re: [PLUG] Upgrading rooted Samsung Android phone

[Chuck Hast]

I am interested in rooting some devices. I rooted two but the solution runs
ad-
verts so I want to pull it out and put something in there that does not do
that.

I have a Samsung Note 10.1 ver 2012. Stinking Sammy only upgraded it to
4.1.2 works great but need to get newer firmware on it.

Also have a Samsung 8" tab, it is rooted to but used the same thing and now
have to pop up adverts. This was one of those solutions that does not need
a computer as I did not want to use the windoz crap, I will have to look at
the
adb/fastboot and see what it has.

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 1:24 AM, carl day <carl0spam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> TWRP is custom recovery/backup is used for installing custom software
> on your device.
> https://twrp.me/devices/samsunggalaxynote3tmobile.html
>
> adb/fastboot are part of the free dev tools for android [win/mac/Linux
> bins] at google.
>
> XDA is a web-forum smartphone hacks info: page for note3:
> https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3
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Re: [PLUG] newegg security

[Chuck Hast]

It worked for me. I am using chrome. It will bark at anything that does not
even
smell right seems.

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Galen Seitz <gal...@seitzassoc.com> wrote:

> On 07/06/17 07:49, Tim wrote:
> >
> >
> >> OK, tried it again this morning and got the insecure connection problem
> >> again.  I also tried it with Chrome and got a similar security warning.
> >> Could someone else please try these two addresses and report if you see
> >> a similar problem?  To the best of my knowledge, both of these are
> >> Newegg IPs.
> >>
> >> https://38.95.229.188
> >> https://216.52.208.188
> >
> >
> > HTTPS certificate validation will fail if you are not accessing the
> > web server using the site's appropriate DNS domain name.  Public HTTPS
> > certificates cannot be issued for IP addresses, so the URLs you
> > included are guaranteed to fail validation.
>
> OK, that makes sense, and also explains why the SSL Labs test says I
> can't use IP addresses.  Can you please try https://secure.newegg.com ?
> It's causing security errors here.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Unprivileged ports to unprivileged ports...

[Chuck Hast]

I have always liked "drop".

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Cryptomonkeys.org <lou...@cryptomonkeys.org
> wrote:

> Typically, connections come from unprivileged ports. The destination is a
> mixed bag. Some services run on privileged ports, some done. Web and mail
> are examples of things that run on privileged ports. Databases (mysql 3306,
> postgresql 5432) are examples of things that don’t run on privileged ports.
>
> Best practice is to either block or drop connections to ports where you
> aren’t running services. The choice is yours. The difference is that block
> sends a communication back to the sender letting them know communication is
> prohibited, drop does not do this.
>
>
> > On Apr 21, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Michael Christopher Robinson <
> mich...@robinson-west.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm getting a lot of probes from unprivileged TCP ports to unprivileged
> > TCP ports on my Internet connected server.  No connections, but I'm
> > wondering if I should just reject these?  Same for UDP.  What protocols
> > might I use that would require connection in the unprivileged port
> > range for both client and server?  I'm not running ftp on this server.
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Re: [PLUG] Where to look...

[Chuck Hast]

I shall do so. It is Ubuntu Mate 16.04, but I am running Compiz on the
desktop.
The machine is a Thinkpad X-301. I am suspecting that it has something to do
with going to the login as if the screen goes dark for a short time I can
touch a
key or the pointing device and it will wake back up just fine, but if it
times to the
point it is going to ask for a login I am believing that is where the issue
is, or it
is near by.

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 7:36 PM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:50:55 -0700
> Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> dijo:
>
> >My machine did its updates the other day, after doing so I have found
> >that something has been messed up with the upgrade. Now when the
> >screen goes dark for a long period of time, and I go to wake it back up
> >all I get is a gray screen. It does show the cursor and it follows the
> >mo- vement of the mouse.
> >
> >If it has been dark for a shorter period it will come back. No issues,
> >but after some point in time being dark it only comes back to a deep
> >gray screen
> >
> >I end up doing a skill on that session from the console and then
> >restarting I am trying to figure out where to poke and try to fix it.
> >It almost looks like  the signin screen is just not popping up the
> >login, but not sure. I look at syslog and see nothing that rings a
> >bell.
>
> 1) What is the distro and what is the desktop environment, what video
> hardware does the machine have, and which video driver(s) and which
> version(s) of it/them are you using? Ditto for power management stuff.
>
> 2) Get a list of all the updates that were installed during the update
> and scan through them for anything suspicious.
>
> 3) Check the forums/blogs/listservs for your distro to see if this has
> already been reported. If not, once you have the above information,
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[PLUG] Where to look...

[Chuck Hast]

My machine did its updates the other day, after doing so I have found
that something has been messed up with the upgrade. Now when the
screen goes dark for a long period of time, and I go to wake it back up
all I get is a gray screen. It does show the cursor and it follows the mo-
vement of the mouse.

If it has been dark for a shorter period it will come back. No issues, but
after
some point in time being dark it only comes back to a deep gray screen

I end up doing a skill on that session from the console and then restarting
I am trying to figure out where to poke and try to fix it. It almost looks
like
the signin screen is just not popping up the login, but not sure. I look at
syslog and see nothing that rings a bell.

Any ideas as to where to poke?

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Re: [PLUG] Can't get rid of this

[Chuck Hast]

Well, I suppose I can just remove the original wine install and that will
take
care of it. This appears to be a recurring issue as I see that it appears to
appear and disappear every so often, so who knows what is going on. They
fix it and then out comes a new update and someone breaks it again.

I will give Playonlinux a try.

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:27 AM, benjamin barber <starwor...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> There are some programs that handle wine dependencies and versions better
> IMHO, try Playonlinux
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> > I installed Wine on this machine. The MS fonts did not download, went on
> > line
> > and saw that there was an issue with the download script and followed the
> > instructions and pulled it down manually, but I still get this silly
> thing
> > popping
> > up, can not figure out how to kill it:
> >
> > 
> > --
> > Failure to download extra data files
> >
> > The following packages requested additional data downloads after package
> > installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be
> > processed.
> >
> > ttf-mscorefonts-installer
> >
> > The download will be attempted again later, or you can try the download
> > again now.  Running this command requires an active Internet connection.
> > 
> > 
> >
> > I figured that the manual download would satisfy it, but appears it did
> > not. I
> > think it maybe that the manual download was a newer set of files.
> >
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[PLUG] Can't get rid of this

[Chuck Hast]

Folks,
I installed Wine on this machine. The MS fonts did not download, went on
line
and saw that there was an issue with the download script and followed the
instructions and pulled it down manually, but I still get this silly thing
popping
up, can not figure out how to kill it:

--
Failure to download extra data files

The following packages requested additional data downloads after package
installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be
processed.

ttf-mscorefonts-installer

The download will be attempted again later, or you can try the download
again now.  Running this command requires an active Internet connection.


I figured that the manual download would satisfy it, but appears it did
not. I
think it maybe that the manual download was a newer set of files.

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Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

Well, if you have 1-2 bars a directional antenna will give you some gain,
If you can add 5 db to that you should be pretty good. Wonder what they
are using out there? I have an app that shows me which band the radio
is working, I will have to look and see what it is. If you look at
directional
cellular antennas there are quite a few. As to the device, I have been
looking
at several devices all of them are some sort of cell modem, I am trying to
find one that uses PoE and is in a weather proof case. Having lived in
FL I know what salt air is all about. In Tampa anything outside had a life
of about 2 years if it was any of the common metals. I.e. Aluminium, most
steel, and iron. About the only thing that had a reasonable life was SS.

Back on the antenna thing, yes, if you can add some elevation to it even
better. Vegetation is evil. the NW is no better than tropical rain forest
and
in some cases worse, the needles on some of the conifers are 1/2 and 1/4
wave length at some of the common used frequencies and those needles
really suck up the RF. I had a similar situation in S. New Jersey, those
needles were near enough to 800Mhz wavelength to cause major attenuation.
1/4 wave is about 9.8cm, which is about the same length as those pine
needles
in S. New Jersey woods.

Gotta get to bed, am in San Diego tonight gotta go to LA (yetch) tomorrow.
Flew in to LAX from PDX this morning drove down to SAN. Did a job now
back to LA for another one. Then home, the only thing I am going to miss
from here is the sun...



On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:33 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote:

> >
> >
> >
> > Wes, the neighbor that has the connectivity issues, do they have AT
> > coverage on their property? If so I would certainly look into that
> > offering.
> >
> >
> >
> I usually got 1-2 bars of signal strength on my AT phone. I didn't try
> other carriers. I suspect it would be much higher with just a little
> elevation, but he's right on the coast so weather protection is extra
> important. Probably more important than the device used - it could just be
> a phone with tethering enabled. But the salt gets into everything and
> wrecks and ruins so fast.
>
> I wish he was a neighbor, sadly he's a 6 hour drive away (Gold Beach), so I
> have to be extra careful about solutions I set up out there.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

My first attempt was to use Part 15 radios to do the link, I have a good
location
in Longview that can see the ridge very well and of course the other way
from
the ridge I can see the location just fine, it is getting from the ridge
down to
my place that is a pain. Too much trees and tall buggers at that. If I can
get
a cellular link from the high part of the property I just as well go that
way and
be done with it as I will not need to see what neighbor will host the
repeater
for the part 15 (wifi) system.

I have done a lot of part 15 links you can take an old satellite dish and
build
a great very directional antenna with one, has great gain, and very good
front
to back. Indeed many times the link will run over distances that the radios
will
not carry due to speed of light issues. I have even used lasers for some of
that
stuff (not in our area obviously ) there are all kinds of ways to do it, at
this
point the AT offering is looking better and better.

I have used Ubiquity radios in a lot of places for the price they are good
radios.

Wes, the neighbor that has the connectivity issues, do they have AT
coverage on their property? If so I would certainly look into that offering.


On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Thomas Groman <tgrom.autom...@nuegia.net>
wrote:

> https://airlink.ubnt.com/
>
>
> On 04/11/2017 10:17 PM, Thomas Groman wrote:
> > Can you maybe setup something yourself with some ubiquity radios? You
> > might get lucky and have a friend or something in Line OF Sight that has
> > good internet that is willing to put a dish up to share it.
> >
> > It's a long shot but it it Hughesnet we are talking about here.
> >
> >
> > On 04/11/2017 07:29 PM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> >> Yes, it is truly a sad solution, but where I live it is the only one. I
> >> often tell people
> >> that it is a good thing that the agriculture people who feed us do not
> >> treat us
> >> like Hughesnet treats them, we would all starve.
> >>
> >> If I get the job I am trying for, I will be moving, Indeed may spend
> part
> >> of my
> >> time in Costa Rica, wife is down there dealing with family things
> father in
> >> law
> >> wants us to move in his place, he is now by himself.  I would get fibre
> at
> >> his
> >> home if I do so. All depends on the job I get here. I am working on a
> field
> >> service job that allows me to live anywhere near a airport on this side
> of
> >> the
> >> planet.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Thomas Groman <
> tgrom.autom...@nuegia.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> oh gawd *Hughesnet*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 04/11/2017 07:05 PM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> >>>> Oh, ok. Yes, I am looking at getting a WX proof modem, something that
> >>> uses
> >>>> PoE, and directional antennas, put a shack up on the ridge and use
> solar
> >>> or
> >>>> wind to keep it powered and run the link down to the house using some
> >>> fibre.
> >>>> Actually put up some sort of tower and mount the whole thing in a WX
> >>> proof
> >>>> box, put the radio and antenna up on top of the tower, and hang the
> box
> >>> at
> >>>> the bottom. The power and media converter will be in that box, perhaps
> >>> an-
> >>>> other box for the batteries below it. Keep the out gas out of the
> >>> equipment
> >>>> box.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I can get the AT offer of 250GB for $60/mo I will be very happy
> as
> >>> I am
> >>>> getting taken to the cleaners with Hughesnet.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 5:06 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I was referring to your idea of putting an LTE gateway up on a ridge.
> >>> Just
> >>>>> thinking of water and sun protection, nothing extraordinary.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -wes
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Are you talking about ESD or physically protecting the device? The
> >>> remote
> >>>>>> sensors are wireless so a lightning strike would take them out but
> >>>>> probably
> >>>>>> not do much to the rest of it unless it comes through the 110v
> line, or
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> EMP
> >>>>>> was too

Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

Yes, it is truly a sad solution, but where I live it is the only one. I
often tell people
that it is a good thing that the agriculture people who feed us do not
treat us
like Hughesnet treats them, we would all starve.

If I get the job I am trying for, I will be moving, Indeed may spend part
of my
time in Costa Rica, wife is down there dealing with family things father in
law
wants us to move in his place, he is now by himself.  I would get fibre at
his
home if I do so. All depends on the job I get here. I am working on a field
service job that allows me to live anywhere near a airport on this side of
the
planet.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Thomas Groman <tgrom.autom...@nuegia.net>
wrote:

> oh gawd *Hughesnet*
>
>
> On 04/11/2017 07:05 PM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > Oh, ok. Yes, I am looking at getting a WX proof modem, something that
> uses
> > PoE, and directional antennas, put a shack up on the ridge and use solar
> or
> > wind to keep it powered and run the link down to the house using some
> fibre.
> >
> > Actually put up some sort of tower and mount the whole thing in a WX
> proof
> > box, put the radio and antenna up on top of the tower, and hang the box
> at
> > the bottom. The power and media converter will be in that box, perhaps
> an-
> > other box for the batteries below it. Keep the out gas out of the
> equipment
> > box.
> >
> > If I can get the AT offer of 250GB for $60/mo I will be very happy as
> I am
> > getting taken to the cleaners with Hughesnet.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 5:06 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I was referring to your idea of putting an LTE gateway up on a ridge.
> Just
> >> thinking of water and sun protection, nothing extraordinary.
> >>
> >> -wes
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are you talking about ESD or physically protecting the device? The
> remote
> >>> sensors are wireless so a lightning strike would take them out but
> >> probably
> >>> not do much to the rest of it unless it comes through the 110v line, or
> >> the
> >>> EMP
> >>> was too high, in that case there just is not much you can do about the
> >> EMP,
> >>> it is cheaper to replace the RPi and console that block for the EMP. I
> >> used
> >>> to
> >>> live in lightning prone areas, Costa Rica and Tampa, FL. I have seen my
> >>> fair
> >>> share of lightning damage, one thing I learned was to run all long
> >> network
> >>> runs as fiber rather than Cat5/6. No issues with EMP with the fiber.
> >>>
> >>> The console and RPi are inside the home so they are protected.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 10:58 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> What do you plan to use for weather protection?
> >>>>
> >>>> -wes
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Tomás
> >>>>> Sorry I should have got  back on and told you I found it, but the
> >>> charge
> >>>>> rate
> >>>>> is only 1.5 amp, the other unit is 2.0 amp. The RPi doing the WeeWx
> >>> stuff
> >>>>> pulls data every 60 seconds, writes to the DB and then sends it out
> >> to
> >>>> WU,
> >>>>> CWOP and Findu.com. When it does that it pulls a wee bit more current
> >>>>> that usual. So I am going to give the other unit a try as I have the
> >>> PSU
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> it. I will also power the Acurite console off of it.  If this works I
> >>>> have
> >>>>> a whole
> >>>>> boat load of places I am going to do that trick. Indeed if we do not
> >>> move
> >>>>> out
> >>>>> of this place, I am going to put an RPi up on the  ridge above the
> >>> house
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> a AT LTE modem on it, AT has an offer of 250GB/mo @ $60/mo or 500
> >>>>> GB/mo @ $100/mo. They just came out with the offer last month, it is
> >>>>> directed
> >>>>> at some states back east, but people are calling and getting the
> >>> offering
> >>>>> every-
> >&g

Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

Oh, ok. Yes, I am looking at getting a WX proof modem, something that uses
PoE, and directional antennas, put a shack up on the ridge and use solar or
wind to keep it powered and run the link down to the house using some fibre.

Actually put up some sort of tower and mount the whole thing in a WX proof
box, put the radio and antenna up on top of the tower, and hang the box at
the bottom. The power and media converter will be in that box, perhaps an-
other box for the batteries below it. Keep the out gas out of the equipment
box.

If I can get the AT offer of 250GB for $60/mo I will be very happy as I am
getting taken to the cleaners with Hughesnet.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 5:06 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote:

> I was referring to your idea of putting an LTE gateway up on a ridge. Just
> thinking of water and sun protection, nothing extraordinary.
>
> -wes
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Are you talking about ESD or physically protecting the device? The remote
> > sensors are wireless so a lightning strike would take them out but
> probably
> > not do much to the rest of it unless it comes through the 110v line, or
> the
> > EMP
> > was too high, in that case there just is not much you can do about the
> EMP,
> > it is cheaper to replace the RPi and console that block for the EMP. I
> used
> > to
> > live in lightning prone areas, Costa Rica and Tampa, FL. I have seen my
> > fair
> > share of lightning damage, one thing I learned was to run all long
> network
> > runs as fiber rather than Cat5/6. No issues with EMP with the fiber.
> >
> > The console and RPi are inside the home so they are protected.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 10:58 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote:
> >
> > > What do you plan to use for weather protection?
> > >
> > > -wes
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tomás
> > > > Sorry I should have got  back on and told you I found it, but the
> > charge
> > > > rate
> > > > is only 1.5 amp, the other unit is 2.0 amp. The RPi doing the WeeWx
> > stuff
> > > > pulls data every 60 seconds, writes to the DB and then sends it out
> to
> > > WU,
> > > > CWOP and Findu.com. When it does that it pulls a wee bit more current
> > > > that usual. So I am going to give the other unit a try as I have the
> > PSU
> > > > for
> > > > it. I will also power the Acurite console off of it.  If this works I
> > > have
> > > > a whole
> > > > boat load of places I am going to do that trick. Indeed if we do not
> > move
> > > > out
> > > > of this place, I am going to put an RPi up on the  ridge above the
> > house
> > > > with
> > > > a AT LTE modem on it, AT has an offer of 250GB/mo @ $60/mo or 500
> > > > GB/mo @ $100/mo. They just came out with the offer last month, it is
> > > > directed
> > > > at some states back east, but people are calling and getting the
> > offering
> > > > every-
> > > > where they have put in LTE. At this time I have 50GB @ $110/mo with
> > > Hughes
> > > > net, and they suck royally. So I can put an RPi up on the ridge and
> run
> > > > about
> > > > 500ft of fibre down to the house let the RPi handle the cell modem
> and
> > > get
> > > > rid of Hughesnet. Whattavampire they are. That one I will power with
> > the
> > > > "kludge" as it will be a much better option there. May even try some
> > > solar
> > > > to see how much the batteries will keep up that way. Use an RPi to
> > > monitor
> > > > that too.
> > > >
> > > > If I get the job I am angling for I will not need to worry about it,
> > but
> > > I
> > > > can
> > > > always find something for an RPi to do.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Follow the second link, scroll down to product description about
> half
> > > > > way through the page, and check the Duo-Charge Section:
> > > > >  Product description
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
>

Re: [PLUG] Tarnished chromium

[Chuck Hast]

Rich,
Yeah, all true. I guess I just had some very bad experiences with Symantec
and when I see what they were doing it just reinforces my sentiments.

In the case of the bank that is the exact solution excep that it appears
that my
bank has done something about it, I used to see the things and would back
off, but it was only for a short while and I pointed it out to the IT
people at the
bank, as I am sure others did too. It was corrected in days, at that time
did
not know what it was, but someone did as they fixed it.

The question to me is how many more of these things are out there, probably
a lot but at the same time I am going to try to not lose any sleep over it.

I will back off and find another solution that is the field service/pilot
in me, in
both professions you do not have the option of stopping. The issue has to
be fixed somehow, and so I go on. Still Symantec causes me a bad reaction,
just have to press on and not worry about it.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017, Chuck Hast wrote:
>
> > To me Semantec handing out certs is kind of like the fox tending to the
> > hen house...
>
> Chuck,
>
>Perhaps it would be better to get users of their certs to switch.
> There's
> not much that those of us on the sticky end of the lollypop can do about
> it.
>
>So chromium says, "bad! bad!," do we just respond with a shrug and go
> to a
> local bank branch to ask for information about our accounts?
>
>The entire Web is fraught with vulnerabilities. Consider all the ATM
> skimmers around the world, the hacked POS terminals and processors, and the
> success of phishing in gaining access to accounts (e.g., yahoo) and money
> (Bangladesh's central bank). All out of our control.
>
>Too often lifting a leg on large companies, or those who insist on not
> changing from We've Alwasy Done It This Way, is a waste of good urine.
> Telling me as an end-user that chromium is more conservative about
> accepting
> the real world does not not make my life easier as the solution is
> apparently up to the bank and not me.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Tarnished chromium

[Chuck Hast]

I have always considered Symantec a vehicle for trojans and viruses though
they are introduced into your Windows box as something you NEED to pur-
chase to give aid to the outragiously priced product you just paid for,
which
probably has not much real use but to make you more irritated in the end.

In the past when I had to deal with their products, seems like the machines
always were popping up adverts for other Symantec products.

Due to my experience I have a tendency to go to the side of Google.

To me Semantec handing out certs is kind of like the fox tending to the hen
house...


On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017, Thomas Groman wrote:
>
> > You could try a fork a Firefox called PaleMoon. It is an extremely
> > lightweight edition of Firefox.
>
>I have no issues with firefox. In the past the problems with accessing
> sites has been at their end because they did not make modifications to
> accommodate the latest firefox patches.
>
> Thanks, Thomas,
>
> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

When the lightning hits in an oak tree next door it will take out anything
that
can pick up enough EMF to do it. Does not take much. A place where I worked
in Tampa, we had lightning hit the flag pole out front of the building every
parallel port that had a printer or scanner plugged into it was dead, and
the
printer/scanner too.

Then there is something called "Super Lightning", I have seen it several
times
in Costa Rica and a few times in Tampa, when that strikes all electronics is
DOA for quite a radius out from the strike point. Case in point, I worked
for
Del Monte Fresh Fruit in Costa Rica. In the pineapple production area they
had just finished building the new office (they were in the process of
moving
pineapple production from Hawaii to Costa Rica) Everyone had moved into
the new office, they had all of their calculators computers and a new PBS
(AT box) just installed, indeed the pbx had been brought on line the day
before the incident.  There was a free standing tower out behind the
building
it was adorned with antennas for the radio system. The evening of the day
after the pbx going on line there was a bad thunderstorm. Very bad for
Buenos
Aires De Osa which has lightning so active that you can set and read at
night
and never stop during some of those storms. The way the wet Pacific air goes
up against the mountains in that region causes some real impressive storms
After the main storm subsided, there was the high outflow probably some
where at 35-40K feet. There was a sudden very intense flash and thunder
that was heard for many many miles away. That stroke came out of that
high outflow. NOTHING electrical or electronic was serviceable. They even
had to pull new mains power in the building. After that we installed a
device
that was on a tall pole, it looked like a bicycle wheel on its side, there
was
a spike of radio active material that stuck up above it. It was called an
"Ionocaptor" after a normal thunderstorm you could walk up to the pole and
put your hand on it. It would be quite warm to the touch. But we never had
anymore lightning strikes on anything but that pole.

Had another superbolt that hit on top of the Irazu Volcano, there are all
kinds
of radio facilities up there, same situation it came out of the high
altitude
outflow of a dying TRW. Probably same altitude about 35-40K feet. It took
out just about everything up on the summit of the volcano. Several TV trans-
mitters, and loads of radio gear, we all had to make a trek up there to fix
stuff. I saw that one Indeed I just happened to be looking at the summit of
the volcano when it hit San Jose CR is about 21 Km from the summit line
of sight. The flash was incredible and the thunder appeared to come from
everywhere. I knew as soon as I saw it that we were in for a long night.

Yes in a lot of places there they put wire in the walls, 1 earthquake, 2.
EMP. I have seen EMP blow holes in concrete walls (Ch 6 TV relay
transmitter site Cerro La Muerte Costa Rica) at that same tower lightning
hit, went down the wire run for the station dog and burned the tail off of
the dog. that dog as soon as HE heard thunder was off under the power
plant in the main building. They did not keep him on the run anymore
either. By way the dog died of a heart attack from fear from a direct hit on
the TV tower a couple of years later.

I can tell you some good stories about lightning... Lived in two very active
places, but with proper protection, it is a light show never to be missed.
BUT, Respect it and follow the rules and you will enjoy many a light show
in your life, disregard it once and it may well be your last time.


On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Thomas Groman <tgrom.autom...@nuegia.net>
wrote:

> Wow EMP was so bad there that >300ft indoors caused voltages high enough
> to fry NICs? I can't imagine that bad. Did people build Faraday cage
> servers rooms in Costa Rica?
>
> I have a similar problem with people in rural flatland having their
> canopy SMs fried during storms every month or so.
>
> What are the best options for EMP (caused by lightning) proofing your
> home networks? Put ferrite cores on all the cables and grounded Ethernet
> lighting suppressors on external runs? Also is it a bad idea to put your
> computers on the common ground rather than a dedicated ground?
>
>
> On 04/10/2017 08:36 AM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > Are you talking about ESD or physically protecting the device? The remote
> > sensors are wireless so a lightning strike would take them out but
> probably
> > not do much to the rest of it unless it comes through the 110v line, or
> the
> > EMP
> > was too high, in that case there just is not much you can do about the
> EMP,
> > it is cheaper to replace the RPi and console that block for the EMP. I
> used
> > to
> > live in lightning prone areas, Costa Rica and Tampa, FL. I have seen my
>

Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

Are you talking about ESD or physically protecting the device? The remote
sensors are wireless so a lightning strike would take them out but probably
not do much to the rest of it unless it comes through the 110v line, or the
EMP
was too high, in that case there just is not much you can do about the EMP,
it is cheaper to replace the RPi and console that block for the EMP. I used
to
live in lightning prone areas, Costa Rica and Tampa, FL. I have seen my fair
share of lightning damage, one thing I learned was to run all long network
runs as fiber rather than Cat5/6. No issues with EMP with the fiber.

The console and RPi are inside the home so they are protected.


On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 10:58 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote:

> What do you plan to use for weather protection?
>
> -wes
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tomás
> > Sorry I should have got  back on and told you I found it, but the charge
> > rate
> > is only 1.5 amp, the other unit is 2.0 amp. The RPi doing the WeeWx stuff
> > pulls data every 60 seconds, writes to the DB and then sends it out to
> WU,
> > CWOP and Findu.com. When it does that it pulls a wee bit more current
> > that usual. So I am going to give the other unit a try as I have the PSU
> > for
> > it. I will also power the Acurite console off of it.  If this works I
> have
> > a whole
> > boat load of places I am going to do that trick. Indeed if we do not move
> > out
> > of this place, I am going to put an RPi up on the  ridge above the house
> > with
> > a AT LTE modem on it, AT has an offer of 250GB/mo @ $60/mo or 500
> > GB/mo @ $100/mo. They just came out with the offer last month, it is
> > directed
> > at some states back east, but people are calling and getting the offering
> > every-
> > where they have put in LTE. At this time I have 50GB @ $110/mo with
> Hughes
> > net, and they suck royally. So I can put an RPi up on the ridge and run
> > about
> > 500ft of fibre down to the house let the RPi handle the cell modem and
> get
> > rid of Hughesnet. Whattavampire they are. That one I will power with the
> > "kludge" as it will be a much better option there. May even try some
> solar
> > to see how much the batteries will keep up that way. Use an RPi to
> monitor
> > that too.
> >
> > If I get the job I am angling for I will not need to worry about it, but
> I
> > can
> > always find something for an RPi to do.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Follow the second link, scroll down to product description about half
> > > way through the page, and check the Duo-Charge Section:
> > >  Product description
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Offer Type:19200mAH
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > TeckNet PowerTitan T2 19200mAH External
> > > Battery:
> > > Save time when charging!
> > >
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
> > > Duo-Charge:
> > > The Duo-Charge function enables charging of the PowerTitan while it
> > > recharges a connected device such as an iPhone or iPad.
> > >  ...
> > > Besides the battery capacity, there does not seem to be functional
> > > difference between the chargers. Either of them should keep mostly idle
> > > RPi running for at close to a day. I have 6500mAh USB charger running
> > > RPi + PWM hat + WiFi dongle + a few sensors on a robot cart for about 8
> > > -9-hours straight. The Pi lasts much longer than the other battery pack
> > > feeding the motors.
> > > I should have mentioned it in my original post, I thought that it is
> > > obvious:
> > > If your RPi consumes close to or more than 

Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

Tomás
Sorry I should have got  back on and told you I found it, but the charge
rate
is only 1.5 amp, the other unit is 2.0 amp. The RPi doing the WeeWx stuff
pulls data every 60 seconds, writes to the DB and then sends it out to WU,
CWOP and Findu.com. When it does that it pulls a wee bit more current
that usual. So I am going to give the other unit a try as I have the PSU for
it. I will also power the Acurite console off of it.  If this works I have
a whole
boat load of places I am going to do that trick. Indeed if we do not move
out
of this place, I am going to put an RPi up on the  ridge above the house
with
a AT LTE modem on it, AT has an offer of 250GB/mo @ $60/mo or 500
GB/mo @ $100/mo. They just came out with the offer last month, it is
directed
at some states back east, but people are calling and getting the offering
every-
where they have put in LTE. At this time I have 50GB @ $110/mo with Hughes
net, and they suck royally. So I can put an RPi up on the ridge and run
about
500ft of fibre down to the house let the RPi handle the cell modem and get
rid of Hughesnet. Whattavampire they are. That one I will power with the
"kludge" as it will be a much better option there. May even try some solar
to see how much the batteries will keep up that way. Use an RPi to monitor
that too.

If I get the job I am angling for I will not need to worry about it, but I
can
always find something for an RPi to do.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Follow the second link, scroll down to product description about half
> way through the page, and check the Duo-Charge Section:
>  Product description
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Offer Type:19200mAH
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> TeckNet PowerTitan T2 19200mAH External
> Battery:
> Save time when charging!
>
> .
> .
> .
> Duo-Charge:
> The Duo-Charge function enables charging of the PowerTitan while it
> recharges a connected device such as an iPhone or iPad.
>  ...
> Besides the battery capacity, there does not seem to be functional
> difference between the chargers. Either of them should keep mostly idle
> RPi running for at close to a day. I have 6500mAh USB charger running
> RPi + PWM hat + WiFi dongle + a few sensors on a robot cart for about 8
> -9-hours straight. The Pi lasts much longer than the other battery pack
> feeding the motors.
> I should have mentioned it in my original post, I thought that it is
> obvious:
> If your RPi consumes close to or more than the charging current max 2A
> (depending on your actual power supply) - about 10% to power the
> charger = ~1800mA --> your battery pack will not recharge after the
> outage. In such case you would have to come up with different UPS
> solution.
> Best luck, Tomas
> On Sun, 2017-04-09 at 19:23 -0700, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > Tomas,
> > The second selection looks more like what I am looking for but the
> > first one
> > will certainly work. But I do not see mention of pass through
> > charging or
> > charge while charging.
> >
> > Went ahead and bought the first selection.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Nat Taylor <biob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I use something like that second battery to power my pi, it's just
> > > a cell
> > > phone charger, I'm not sure what running it while plugged in does
> > > to it's
> > > life.   One could put it on a timer so the power cuts, it drains
> > > the
> > > battery for a while, then charges back up if that was advantageous
> > > for
> > > battery life...
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 2:39 AM Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > There are probably other USB power banks which can be charged and
> > > > discharged together. Here are two examples:
> > > > https://www.amazon.com/TeckNet-Universal-16750mAh-Output-PowerZen
> > > > /dp/B0
> > > > 0FAU7ZB2/ref=pd_cp_107_1?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B00FAU7ZB2_rd_
> > > > r=0JMM
> > > > HXMXK7RYWY9K361K_rd_w=712hM_rd_wg=6mOCV=1=0JMMHX
> > > > MXK7RY
> > > > WY9K361K
> > > > <https://www.amazon.com/TeckNet-Universal-16750mAh-
> > > Output-PowerZen/dp/B00FAU7ZB2/ref=pd_cp_107_1?_encoding=
> > > UTF8_rd_i=B00FAU7ZB2_rd_r=0JMMHXMXK7RYWY9K361K_rd_
> > > w=712hM_rd_wg=6mOCV=1=0JMMHXMXK7RYWY9K361K>
> &g

Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

Nat,
I have a kludge system that i am going to use until the passthrough charger/
battery arrives. It is ugly and being a kludge it is just a gell cell and a
power
supply, the battery is floating on the PSU. On power loss it picks up the
load
on the USB ports.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tomas,
> The second selection looks more like what I am looking for but the first
> one
> will certainly work. But I do not see mention of pass through charging or
> charge while charging.
>
> Went ahead and bought the first selection.
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Nat Taylor <biob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I use something like that second battery to power my pi, it's just a cell
>> phone charger, I'm not sure what running it while plugged in does to it's
>> life.   One could put it on a timer so the power cuts, it drains the
>> battery for a while, then charges back up if that was advantageous for
>> battery life...
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 2:39 AM Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > There are probably other USB power banks which can be charged and
>> > discharged together. Here are two examples:
>> > https://www.amazon.com/TeckNet-Universal-16750mAh-Output-PowerZen/dp/B0
>> > 0FAU7ZB2/ref=pd_cp_107_1?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B00FAU7ZB2_rd_r=0JMM
>> > HXMXK7RYWY9K361K_rd_w=712hM_rd_wg=6mOCV=1=0JMMHXMXK7RY
>> > WY9K361K
>> > <https://www.amazon.com/TeckNet-Universal-16750mAh-Output-
>> PowerZen/dp/B00FAU7ZB2/ref=pd_cp_107_1?_encoding=UTF8_rd_
>> i=B00FAU7ZB2_rd_r=0JMMHXMXK7RYWY9K361K_rd_w=
>> 712hM_rd_wg=6mOCV=1=0JMMHXMXK7RYWY9K361K>
>> > https://www.amazon.com/PowerTitan-19200mAh3-Port-Portable-External-Tech
>> > nology/dp/B01B534D4Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless=5713662011=UTF8=1
>> > 491729627=1-1
>> > <https://www.amazon.com/PowerTitan-19200mAh3-Port-Portable-
>> External-Technology/dp/B01B534D4Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=wirele
>> ss=5713662011=UTF8=1491729627=1-1>
>> > Based on recommendation from this guy:
>> > http://raspi-ups.appspot.com/en/index.jsp He used older model which is
>> > no longer available.
>> > I wonder how smart is the circuit in avoiding the charge/discharge
>> > battery cycles when the power is on - it relates to the battery life.
>> > Tomas
>> > On Sat, 2017-04-08 at 18:57 -0700, Chuck Hast wrote:
>> > > On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > dd nor rsync alone will not be able to do full backup of running
>> > > > computer (RPi).
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > That was what I figured, just wanted to make sure.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > The best course of action is to separate the OS from your data -
>> > > > whatever your RPi is normally writing - then backup each
>> > > > separately.
>> > > >   * When you separate the data, you could even store it off the RPi
>> > > > avoiding need for local data backups on RPi altogether.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > The drive has two partitions on it /boot and /.  /boot is a vfat, the
>> > > rest
>> > > of
>> > > it is ext4. I supposed that I could stop the service (weather data
>> > > capture)
>> > > back up the files that are critical to the weather station.After the
>> > > back up
>> > > is done start the service again. Maybe store them on a jump drive and
>> > > after the station service is back up and running ship them off to the
>> > > location
>> > > I will keep the back ups in. I figure that I could do the back up in
>> > > the wee
>> > > hours of the morning.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >   * If you want to keep the data on RPi, you could back it up by
>> > > > rsync
>> > > > to separate media (USB) or a network storage
>> > > >   * You cannot back up the OS while you are using it - that is why
>> > > > this
>> > > > is normally done on a separate computer. It is easier and faster
>> > > > than
>> > > > booting your RPi from USB or network and then doing the backup.
>> > > >   * Perhaps the OS does not need to be backed up often or not at
>> > > > all as
>> > > > you could simply create separate OS image, even on another SD card
>> > > > attached to your Pi.
>> > > >
>> 

Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

Tomas,
The second selection looks more like what I am looking for but the first one
will certainly work. But I do not see mention of pass through charging or
charge while charging.

Went ahead and bought the first selection.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Nat Taylor <biob...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I use something like that second battery to power my pi, it's just a cell
> phone charger, I'm not sure what running it while plugged in does to it's
> life.   One could put it on a timer so the power cuts, it drains the
> battery for a while, then charges back up if that was advantageous for
> battery life...
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 2:39 AM Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There are probably other USB power banks which can be charged and
> > discharged together. Here are two examples:
> > https://www.amazon.com/TeckNet-Universal-16750mAh-Output-PowerZen/dp/B0
> > 0FAU7ZB2/ref=pd_cp_107_1?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B00FAU7ZB2_rd_r=0JMM
> > HXMXK7RYWY9K361K_rd_w=712hM_rd_wg=6mOCV=1=0JMMHXMXK7RY
> > WY9K361K
> > <https://www.amazon.com/TeckNet-Universal-16750mAh-
> Output-PowerZen/dp/B00FAU7ZB2/ref=pd_cp_107_1?_encoding=
> UTF8_rd_i=B00FAU7ZB2_rd_r=0JMMHXMXK7RYWY9K361K_rd_
> w=712hM_rd_wg=6mOCV=1=0JMMHXMXK7RYWY9K361K>
> > https://www.amazon.com/PowerTitan-19200mAh3-Port-Portable-External-Tech
> > nology/dp/B01B534D4Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless=5713662011=UTF8=1
> > 491729627=1-1
> > <https://www.amazon.com/PowerTitan-19200mAh3-Port-
> Portable-External-Technology/dp/B01B534D4Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=
> wireless=5713662011=UTF8=1491729627=1-1>
> > Based on recommendation from this guy:
> > http://raspi-ups.appspot.com/en/index.jsp He used older model which is
> > no longer available.
> > I wonder how smart is the circuit in avoiding the charge/discharge
> > battery cycles when the power is on - it relates to the battery life.
> > Tomas
> > On Sat, 2017-04-08 at 18:57 -0700, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > > On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > dd nor rsync alone will not be able to do full backup of running
> > > > computer (RPi).
> > > >
> > >
> > > That was what I figured, just wanted to make sure.
> > >
> > >
> > > > The best course of action is to separate the OS from your data -
> > > > whatever your RPi is normally writing - then backup each
> > > > separately.
> > > >   * When you separate the data, you could even store it off the RPi
> > > > avoiding need for local data backups on RPi altogether.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The drive has two partitions on it /boot and /.  /boot is a vfat, the
> > > rest
> > > of
> > > it is ext4. I supposed that I could stop the service (weather data
> > > capture)
> > > back up the files that are critical to the weather station.After the
> > > back up
> > > is done start the service again. Maybe store them on a jump drive and
> > > after the station service is back up and running ship them off to the
> > > location
> > > I will keep the back ups in. I figure that I could do the back up in
> > > the wee
> > > hours of the morning.
> > >
> > >
> > > >   * If you want to keep the data on RPi, you could back it up by
> > > > rsync
> > > > to separate media (USB) or a network storage
> > > >   * You cannot back up the OS while you are using it - that is why
> > > > this
> > > > is normally done on a separate computer. It is easier and faster
> > > > than
> > > > booting your RPi from USB or network and then doing the backup.
> > > >   * Perhaps the OS does not need to be backed up often or not at
> > > > all as
> > > > you could simply create separate OS image, even on another SD card
> > > > attached to your Pi.
> > > >
> > >
> > > All I really need for recovery is the WeeWx db file, WeeWx config
> > > file,
> > > skins
> > > file and the nginx configuration. I could actually keep a separate
> > > image and
> > > just insert the latest files and quickly swap out the bad SD card.
> > > That
> > > should
> > > take care of it.
> > >
> > > I should be able to automate the OS configuration, so that I just run
> > > a
> > > script
> > > it looks for the SD card, installs the OS makes sure that the
> > > parameters
> > > that
> > > I set manually o

Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Thomas Groman <tgrom.autom...@nuegia.net>
wrote:

> You could try separating your /boot to a vfat partition of it's own and
> putting everything else on a
>
partition formatted with a file system that support live backups such as
> XFS. Of course your
>
> kernel would have to have support for this so if the Raspberrypi OS your
> using doesn't you
>
> would need to compile it in.
>

The RPi Jessie install already does that, as I pointed out to Tomas, there
is
/boot and there is /, all under / is an ext4 fs.

I know what files I really need to keep so perhaps the best thing is just to
back those up and keep a ready card with the whole thing setup minus the
files that need to be from the backup.

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Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> dd nor rsync alone will not be able to do full backup of running
> computer (RPi).
>

That was what I figured, just wanted to make sure.


> The best course of action is to separate the OS from your data -
> whatever your RPi is normally writing - then backup each separately.
>   * When you separate the data, you could even store it off the RPi
> avoiding need for local data backups on RPi altogether.
>

The drive has two partitions on it /boot and /.  /boot is a vfat, the rest
of
it is ext4. I supposed that I could stop the service (weather data capture)
back up the files that are critical to the weather station.After the back up
is done start the service again. Maybe store them on a jump drive and
after the station service is back up and running ship them off to the
location
I will keep the back ups in. I figure that I could do the back up in the wee
hours of the morning.


>   * If you want to keep the data on RPi, you could back it up by rsync
> to separate media (USB) or a network storage
>   * You cannot back up the OS while you are using it - that is why this
> is normally done on a separate computer. It is easier and faster than
> booting your RPi from USB or network and then doing the backup.
>   * Perhaps the OS does not need to be backed up often or not at all as
> you could simply create separate OS image, even on another SD card
> attached to your Pi.
>

All I really need for recovery is the WeeWx db file, WeeWx config file,
skins
file and the nginx configuration. I could actually keep a separate image and
just insert the latest files and quickly swap out the bad SD card. That
should
take care of it.

I should be able to automate the OS configuration, so that I just run a
script
it looks for the SD card, installs the OS makes sure that the parameters
that
I set manually on installation are set correctly, probably can automate the
whole process.

  * Your backup target/media could be another SD card connected to RPi
> in a SD card reader, that way you could just swap the cards 
> Thinking outside of a box - perhaps you need little UPS for your Pi to
> avoid regular data corruption altogether. There are some USB charging
> batteries which can be charged and used both at the same time (most can
> be either charged or used, not both).  Modest battery could keep your
> Pi running for hours.
>

I have been looking for a battery pack that will allow me to let it float
on the
powersupply until power goes away, then it takes over. So far all of them
that
I have looked at will not switch between charge/float/discharge. I have seen
a couple that plug into the pin field on the RPi, but I am trying to keep
the
case clean. I have built up a power supply with a battery on it, and a heavy
duty USB dual port power cartridge that supplies the power I need for the
RPi and the WX station console. It is kind of big, I am certainly looking
for
one of the power pack batteries that does not care if it is being charged or
not.


> I hope that this is pointing you in the right direction to your
> particular circumstances.


Yes it confirmed most of what I was already suspecting. Now if I can just
find a nice clean battery pack that meets the above requirement.
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[PLUG] Backup RPi SD card

[Chuck Hast]

Folks,
I have been looking to setup a backup of a particular RPi that has a
tendency
to corrupt the sd card due to read/write activity during a power loss.

What I want to do is backup the whole image off of the unit to another
machine.

I know how to use dd to create an image of the card. But I would like for
it to
ship it off to another machine so in the event of a corrupt image I can
just to
pull the last good one and put it on a SD card and press on.

I see a lot of recommendations, using dd and rsync but most of them in one
form or another either require you remove the SD card and put it in another
machine or you do not get all of the files you need. So I figure that if I
can just
say at about 2 a.m. start the process and let it capture the image as a
snap-
shot things will be good. But I want the image to be created on another
machine


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Re: [PLUG] USB enclosures

[Chuck Hast]

What drives me up a wall is seeing houses wired with Romex and it is stapled
down to the wood. If you have to pull that sucker out you have to tear the
whole wall out to get to it and remove it, I have also seen staples that
broke
through the insolation enough that especially in warm climates the remaining
plastic isolation would migrate, you get a short and either the breaker
opens
or the short is a hot short but does not pull enough current to toss the
breaker
but now you have a hot spot or fire... I replaced all of that with conduit
and
stranded wire, solid wire is another thing that I have never understood I
do not
believe that I have been in another country where they allowed solid wire,
only in our country. When I lived in Costa Rica, solid wire was banned, same
went for Mexico, and I do not recall seeing it in the other countries I
live in
either.

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Erik Lane <erikl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the biggest benefit to the inspections (for me) is when I move into
> a house that I know nothing about. Especially for plumbing and electrical,
> I want to know that the work was at least looked at by a third party that
> knows their stuff. (Though I guess for roofing and structural it's also
> pretty important.) I've seen some CRAZY stuff out there, and anything
> hidden inside a wall will likely stay that way until it comes out to bite
> you. No way to inspect for that when you're buying a house...
>
> Yes, when I'm doing my own work and know it's good it's a hassle to bother
> with the permit and inspections, but in that case I think of it mainly as
> protecting people down the road. (They have no way of knowing that I do
> quality work, except that it passed inspection.)
>
> I like that idea of having lighting on its own panel and so many separate
> circuits for different things in preparation for solar. It would sure give
> you fine-grained control! Never going to happen at this house, though.
> Reworking everything and tearing it apart just doesn't make sense unless I
> was going to get into all the walls anyway, and of course I'm not planning
> to. (Knock on wood. :)  )
>
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> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Exactly, most of my electrical work has been industrial, one receptacle
> per
> > breaker type work. When I went in to redo the home in Tampa, I found as
> > many as 6 receptacles per breaker, needless to say I fixed that because
> of
> > the same issue, wife can always find the receptacle that has a big load
> on
> > it and plug something else in and toss the breaker. So when I rewired it
> I
> > put
> > one receptacle/breaker. 12Ga wire and 20 amp service to all of them, used
> > industrial grade receptacles (20amp) so had no issues with her doing her
> > thing on ONE but each had its own breaker. The lighting I put on a
> separate
> > panel as I was planning on that being the first part to go solar. I had
> > moved
> > to all CFL and was starting to move to LED. I had the power consumption
> > for lighting down to 400 watts with both all inside and outside (had some
> > 150W
> > CFLs) normal operations, I would see between 25 and 50W of pull with a
> > normal set of lights on in the home at any given time. Most of the time
> it
> > was
> > at or below the 25W level.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Dick Steffens <d...@dicksteffens.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 04/06/2017 07:56 AM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > > > Yea, I keep on forgetting that for a lot of things out here you need
> a
> > > > permit. The
> > > > one thing I miss about FL. I replaced all of the wiring in one house
> > had
> > > a
> > > > good
> > > > electrician friend come over took a look at it said it was ABOVE spec
> > and
> > > > gave
> > > > it his blessing. I understand when it is a commercial job or
> something
> > > like
> > > > a res-
> > > > idential rewire ( I was getting my place ready to add solar panels
> and
> > > > separate
> > > > the low power consumption parts from the high power consumers) but
> even
> > > > then to demand a permit for everything is just way beyond what I see
> as
> > > > good.
> > > >
> > > > Bureaucracy run wild.
>

Re: [PLUG] USB enclosures

[Chuck Hast]

Exactly, most of my electrical work has been industrial, one receptacle per
breaker type work. When I went in to redo the home in Tampa, I found as
many as 6 receptacles per breaker, needless to say I fixed that because of
the same issue, wife can always find the receptacle that has a big load on
it and plug something else in and toss the breaker. So when I rewired it I
put
one receptacle/breaker. 12Ga wire and 20 amp service to all of them, used
industrial grade receptacles (20amp) so had no issues with her doing her
thing on ONE but each had its own breaker. The lighting I put on a separate
panel as I was planning on that being the first part to go solar. I had
moved
to all CFL and was starting to move to LED. I had the power consumption
for lighting down to 400 watts with both all inside and outside (had some
150W
CFLs) normal operations, I would see between 25 and 50W of pull with a
normal set of lights on in the home at any given time. Most of the time it
was
at or below the 25W level.

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Dick Steffens <d...@dicksteffens.com> wrote:

> On 04/06/2017 07:56 AM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > Yea, I keep on forgetting that for a lot of things out here you need a
> > permit. The
> > one thing I miss about FL. I replaced all of the wiring in one house had
> a
> > good
> > electrician friend come over took a look at it said it was ABOVE spec and
> > gave
> > it his blessing. I understand when it is a commercial job or something
> like
> > a res-
> > idential rewire ( I was getting my place ready to add solar panels and
> > separate
> > the low power consumption parts from the high power consumers) but even
> > then to demand a permit for everything is just way beyond what I see as
> > good.
> >
> > Bureaucracy run wild.
>
> There's a good side to the permit/inspection bureaucracy, as well as the
> annoying side. It's an insurance plus to have had a permit/inspection if
> something goes wrong down the road. On the other hand, I know that some
> things that are "to code" aren't as good as what I want. And while what
> I want isn't against the code, it's also not what a typical electrician
> would do. Back in the '90s my wife and I volunteered with Habitat for
> Humanity on a project in Aloha. A retired Westinghouse electrical
> engineer (power) was the site supervisor, and an electrician who was a
> member of the sponsoring church consulted. After a little instruction on
> things I had never done (heavy cable and the use of the grease on the
> connection fittings) we wired 10 houses from the meter base on the side
> of the house in. The engineer and I designed the wiring so that there
> were two different 20 amp circuits in each of the four bedrooms. (Not
> that there were just the two outlets in that room were the only outlets
> on one circuit. The same two circuits served two rooms.) This was done
> because the typical family had six or more members, (Mom, Dad, and four
> kids) and one bathroom. So there could be up to four or five hair driers
> running in the morning. Anyway, Habitat had an electrical contractor
> wire another one of the houses. The electricians didn't follow our plan,
> but did their typical run. That put too many outlets on one circuit for
> the need. It was to code, but not what was needed. So, yes. A good idea
> to make sure the wiring meets code, but being able to do it yourself so
> you get what you want is a major benefit.
>
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>
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Re: [PLUG] USB enclosures

[Chuck Hast]

Yea, I keep on forgetting that for a lot of things out here you need a
permit. The
one thing I miss about FL. I replaced all of the wiring in one house had a
good
electrician friend come over took a look at it said it was ABOVE spec and
gave
it his blessing. I understand when it is a commercial job or something like
a res-
idential rewire ( I was getting my place ready to add solar panels and
separate
the low power consumption parts from the high power consumers) but even
then to demand a permit for everything is just way beyond what I see as
good.

Bureaucracy run wild.

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:30 PM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 16:06:21 -0700
> Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> dijo:
>
> >I guess one thing about the parallel wiring system usually you use a
> >make after break double throw switch so you cannot put power on the
> >mains.
> >
> >The switch is designed such that it cannot make both contacts at the
> >same time. I wonder why you did not go that route?
>
> I considered the idea of a double throw switch, but rejected it because
> it would require a permit, and I doubt I could talk my way out of it.
> Moreover, it would require working with really fat wires, which I hate.
> I would probably end up hiring an electrician, and those people are not
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Re: [PLUG] USB enclosures

[Chuck Hast]

I guess one thing about the parallel wiring system usually you use a make
after break double throw switch so you cannot put power on the mains.

The switch is designed such that it cannot make both contacts at the same
time. I wonder why you did not go that route?

Before I moved out here, I lived in FL. I was getting ready to put in a gen
set
and have backup power. Storms take out the power all of the time, lot of
ESD,
and FL lightning is pretty famous, always sacrifice at least 4 golfers in
the early
part of the rainy season to the lightning god. Indeed Tampa or someplace
near-
by (it moves around the area year by year) is considered the lightning
capital of
the country.

I was getting ready to get one of those switches and install it. Since the
install-
ation was behind the meter and meter switch box I could put it in my self
and
have a certified electrician check my work. That was it. Big thing was that
the
switch be designed to where it could not connect gen set power to the mains.
Those switches are very common. That is what I would have done and that
way not have to go around moving all of the plugs. I would have
non-essential
parts of the home on circuits that I can isolate out so I am not powering a
bunch of stuff I do not need. I was going to use a manual transfer as I
wanted
to be able to do a quick gander at things prior to doing the transfer. All
of the
important stuff was on UPS anyhow so it was not a big deal.

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Very innovative wiring, John.  And I like the idea of a natural gas
> generator.  Much less hassle and maintenance than gasoline.  I have a small
> gasoline generator but it has not been run in a number of years.  Hard to
> justify spending the $ for a switch to natural gas.
>
> -Denis
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:33 PM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 18:47:32 -0700
> > Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtm...@gmail.com> dijo:
> >
> > >Both your main storage and your backup run from the same power line in
> > >the same house.  What is the likelihood lightning or some other major
> > >event could affect both at the same time?  Low, but backups are
> > >intended as insurance for low-likelihood events.  Then there is
> > >crypto-lock.  I do not know about how that works and how different
> > >backup schemes protect against it.
> >
> > First, my house has a 7500 watt natural gas powered generator on the
> > covered back patio. It is not wired to a transfer switch that
> > automatically turns it on and switches the house wiring to it in the
> > event that PGE fails to send me its usual electrons. Instead, it is
> > wired to various outlets around the house that say 'generator only on
> > the cover plate. If the power from PGE fails then I have to go out to
> > the back patio, turn on the generator, then go back inside and move
> > everything that I need to have running to a 'generator only' outlet.
> >
> > In the meantime, the computers, routers, switches, internet devices, and
> > even the stereo are all running on major APC UPS systems - three of
> > them. They will power the electronics for a couple hours, so I don't
> > need to be in a hurry to turn on the generator. And to keep the
> > electronics running after I decide that I need to turn on the
> > generator, all I need to reconnect to the 'generator only' outlets is
> > the power cords from these UPS devices, plus the refrigerator,
> > freezer, and some table lamps. I chose to wire the generator this way
> > rather than using an automatic transfer switch is because 1) automatic
> > transfer switches are expensive and, 2) automatic transfer switches
> > require a permit.
> >
> > Regarding the permit, I had a very heated debate with the City of
> > Portland, which ultimately I won. My major point was that my wiring was
> > not connected in any way to the grid, hence it was impossible for it to
> > electrocute a lineman working on a power pole out in the street. It is
> > a completely private system. It helped my argument that I did all the
> > wiring in my house myself and it all passed code inspections.
> >
> > As for lightning strikes, since all the electronics are running off the
> > UPSs, and they have pretty good surge protection, I am not overly
> > worried.
> >
> > Now, it's possible for something to happen that I have not foreseen,
> > but then, you take some risks getting out of bed in the morning. You
> > even take risks if you stay in bed. In the final analysis, we are all
> > dead. In the meantime, I am satisfied with the precautions that I have
> > taken. :)
> 

Re: [PLUG] Finding appropriate USENET group or mailing list?

[Chuck Hast]

I am going to have to try that. Looks like fun...

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Russell Senior <russ...@personaltelco.net>
wrote:

> >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Barnes <barnmich...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Michael> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Yea, I know the beast, I never got to play with one, but the PDP 8e
> >> was the same way, It had a bunch of switches on the front and you
> >> would enter your data through it. You also told it what address to
> >> load the data into if you were starting at a different address. Here
> >> is a pix of a PDP-8e.
> >> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/DEC_PDP_8e.jpg
> >>
> >> The other one I worked on was the PDP-11, those were interesting
> >> times.
> >>
> >>
> Michael> For those who wax nostalgic, you can build your own PDP-8
> Michael> powered by a Raspberry Pi. See
> Michael> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/pidp-8i-remaking-the-pdp-8i/
> Michael> for details.
>
> I have one of those.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Finding appropriate USENET group or mailing list?

[Chuck Hast]

While I was at DEC in the old San German PR plant, I spent a lot of time in
QC, I was originally hired to do board repair and somehow ended up in QC.

One day this box came in, they removed the box and inside was rack with a
PDP-11 in it. The whole machine was to test core memory used in the PDP-8e's
 and the PDP-11's.

This thing came with a fanfold that was about 12" thick. It had all of the
instructions the code and repair instrucions in it. Along with this was a
2x4
that was about 4ft long. It was affixed to the rear of the cabinet, there
was a
sign that said "see last page of fanfold". The last page had a set of
instruc-
tions if the machine failed and on reboot continued to do the same thing. It
said "Take 2x4 and whack left side of cabinet at level of PDP-11 console,
one
good whack should do it".

I assumed that in the wire wrap backplane on the test jig, there was some
wire wrap issue and rather than dig into that mess and find it they found
that
the 2x4 was faster and worked. (indeed it did).

The test the machine executed printed out a eye pattern overlayed on a grid.
You were looking for width of aperture and position of eye in reference to
the
read signal on the read line.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Apr 2017, Chuck Hast wrote:
>
> > The other one I worked on was the PDP-11, those were interesting times.
>
>I did not program or administer a PDP-11, but it ran the remote access
> terminals (Hollerith card reader and wide line printer) in the Chemistry
> building that connected to the IBM S/360s on both U. of Illinois campuses:
> Urbana/Champaign and Chicago.
>
>As part of my graduate program was a course in systems ecology for
> which I
> wrote a FORTRAN IV program modeling lake energetics. The input card deck
> occupied more than one box. At the end of a semester when the CS100/101
> students were trying to complete projects by occupying the remote access
> suite if I was in my lab I'd get a call asking me to read in the cards and
> start a model run. This took enough main frame resources that it drove away
> the undergrads. Then I killed the run so us grad students had access to the
> systems.
>
>Fun and games. My son liked to feed the card reader hopper, push the
> buttons to initiate a job, and watch the line printer spit out page after
> page of output.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Finding appropriate USENET group or mailing list?

[Chuck Hast]

Yea, I know the beast, I never got to play with one, but the PDP 8e was the
same way, It had a bunch of switches on the front and you would enter your
data through it. You also told it what address to load the data into if you
were
starting at a different address. Here is a pix of a PDP-8e.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/DEC_PDP_8e.jpg

The other one I worked on was the PDP-11, those were interesting times.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Michael Barnes <barnmich...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Apr 4, 2017 09:21, "Chuck Hast" <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Mark Phillips <m...@phillipsmarketing.biz>
> wrote:
>
> > Richard,
> >
> > PS Just so you don't think I am some millennial giving you advice, I am
> > almost your age and have been working in the tech world ever since one
> > entered input into a computer with switches and got output from blinking
> > lights. :)
> >
> > DEC PDP 8 ???
> I remember entering the boot code to read PAPER tape and get the machine
> going. One you had it in CORE memory you were set to go.
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Re: [PLUG] Finding appropriate USENET group or mailing list?

[Chuck Hast]

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Mark Phillips <m...@phillipsmarketing.biz>
wrote:

> Richard,
>
> PS Just so you don't think I am some millennial giving you advice, I am
> almost your age and have been working in the tech world ever since one
> entered input into a computer with switches and got output from blinking
> lights. :)
>
> DEC PDP 8 ???
I remember entering the boot code to read PAPER tape and get the machine
going. One you had it in CORE memory you were set to go.
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Re: [PLUG] Which version of MATE are folks using?

[Chuck Hast]

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Nat Taylor <biob...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   I do like it
> when there's that mac-like icon dock (conky? docker?  i forget), which I
> have seen on both distros.
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
> wrote:
>
> Is this what you are thinking about:
http://glx-dock.org/
It is what I run (it is called Cairo Dock) but it does all of that Mac
stuff too. Very
configurable.

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Re: [PLUG] Which version of MATE are folks using?

[Chuck Hast]

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Dick Steffens <d...@dicksteffens.com> wrote:

>
>
> Does t open a terminal in Ubuntu MATE?
>
> Yessirr, indeedee it does. Remember one thing I have replaced the Window
manager Marco with Compiz, beyond that it is not changed. You can select
window managers in:

System > Preferences > Look and Feel > Mate Tweak.

That is really the only thing I can think of that I change.


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Re: [PLUG] Which version of MATE are folks using?

[Chuck Hast]

This machine I am using was a Free Geek machine, it had Linux Mint on it, I
tried it and it was pretty good, but I had some issues after running it for
a while,
and I have been running Ubuntu Mate on a couple of laptops, on them it was
VERY stable, I swapped out Marco for Compiz, installed VMware Player to run
some VM's on them so I had pretty well given it a run. I replaced Mint with
Ubuntu Mate, but must have left a few of the old .files because the desktop
has
some weirdness that I can not account for. I am getting ready to do a
prevent-
ative backup at which time I will blow away the old home directories and
start
wtih clean ones migrating my files back in, that way I will get rid of the
weird-
ness. I also installed it on a machine used at church to stream video. The
Blackmagic video capture card took right off and ran. I did download the BM
files, but most of the needed stuff was already in the install. That was
nice to
see because video CAPTURE at HD or HD+ can be a pain. The big thing is
that it takes about 30 seconds for the card to be ready after the machine is
up/running and logged into. Not sure why, assume that it takes a while for
the
system to provision the card and check it out, as if I try to start the
video app
right at login, it may fail. Now I just wait about 30 seconds after start
up and
start it. But Ubuntu Mate works great. I do need a mobo with more horsepower
as when I am streaming it is using 50%+ of the CPU.


On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Dick Steffens <d...@dicksteffens.com> wrote:

> On 04/03/2017 09:26 AM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > I am using Ubuntu 16.04 Mate, but I replace Marco with Compiz because I
> like
> > (really like) my cube... Beyond that it is pretty tame and gives few
> > problems.
> >
> > One thing is to make sure you purge ALL of the .files out of your home
> > directory,
> > otherwise you may see some funnies. Back them up somewhere and then ins-
> > tall, then replace the ones you need for particular apps, if you are
> moving
> > from
> > either Mate distro or Ubuntu some of those old .files will cause some
> > strange
> > stuff.
>
> The way I do it, I'll start with a complete install, so all the .files
> will be stock. Then I'll copy the .files from my current desktop over to
> the new one, and do the same as I add programs that aren't automatically
> included. Thanks for the reminder.
>
> > I use apt and Synaptic all of the time, after I do an install the first
> > thing I do is
> > install Synaptic if it has not been done by the install.
>
> Glad to know. I'll give it a try when I can set aside the time.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [PLUG] Which version of MATE are folks using?

[Chuck Hast]

I am using Ubuntu 16.04 Mate, but I replace Marco with Compiz because I like
(really like) my cube... Beyond that it is pretty tame and gives few
problems.

One thing is to make sure you purge ALL of the .files out of your home
directory,
otherwise you may see some funnies. Back them up somewhere and then ins-
tall, then replace the ones you need for particular apps, if you are moving
from
either Mate distro or Ubuntu some of those old .files will cause some
strange
stuff.

I use apt and Synaptic all of the time, after I do an install the first
thing I do is
install Synaptic if it has not been done by the install.

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Dick Steffens <d...@dicksteffens.com> wrote:

> I've been running Ubuntu 14 on my desktop machine, and 16 on a laptop. I
> tried using Unity, but couldn't get into it, so I run Gnome fallback.
> While vaguely aware of it, I hadn't thought of using MATE, although I
> think I have that in stalled on an old (2006) laptop that won't run
> newer software. Linux Mint provided a version that still works with my
> old hardware. Anyway, I have a new desktop machine that I haven't
> finished setting up (for several months). I started it out on Ubuntu 16
> with Gnome fallback, but found a number of things wouldn't install
> without fiddling, which I haven't had time to do. I'm looking at having
> some time in the next couple of months, and will probably start over
> with some version of MATE. I started researching it yesterday and
> discovered I'm mispronouncing MATE as mate (like a ship's mate). Now I
> understand it's pronounced mah-tay, which is a South American plant used
> to make a tea.
>
> So, to get to the question, which version of MATE are folks using? I see
> a list at https://mate-desktop.org/ that includes Linux Mint, which I
> know about, and also Ubuntu MATE, which I wasn't aware of. I'm happy
> with the Debian approach to software installation, such as apt and
> Synaptic, and would just as soon stay with those. What version(s) do any
> of you use that you're happy with?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [PLUG] Movie fan needs storage space

[Chuck Hast]

sudo apt install smartmontools, or whichever tool your distro uses to pull
down
applications. smartctl is part of the above package.

Once done:
sudo smartctl -i /dev/xxx
in my case sda, sdb, sdc, sdd
sda is the on board HDD, the others are usb drives, the last two returned
good data, the sdb (seagate) told me to go pack sand..

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:47 PM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 22:30:33 -0700
> Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> dijo:
>
> >On a whim I ran smartctl on my 3 USB disks, guess what??? The Seagate
> >knows nothing, the two WD drives give me all of the info... Go
>
> You 'ran smartctl' on your drives. How did you do that? From the
> command line? 'Man smartctrl' gave me 'no manual entry for smartctl.'
> If smartctl is, indeed, a command line tool, some syntax and lexicon
> would be useful.
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Re: [PLUG] Movie fan needs storage space

[Chuck Hast]

Folks,
On a whim I ran smartctl on my 3 USB disks, guess what??? The Seagate
knows nothing, the two WD drives give me all of the info... Go figure...

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 5:17 PM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 16:24:54 -0700
> david <dafr+p...@dafr.us> dijo:
>
> >On 03/31/2017 02:59 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> >> I know that the 8TB WD in my Synology has a five year warranty, but
> >> I'll be damned if I can remember which color it is or which model
> >> number. I just spent the last half hour looking everywhere for the
> >> purchase details, but all I can determine is that it was not from
> >> Amazon, and the date must have been early July 2016, because that's
> >> when I signed up for the Synology forums, and I bought the drive and
> >> the Synology at the same time. I also remember them both arriving in
> >> the mail.
>
> >If you have a way to get data directly from the NAS, you can try
> >smartctl (though I suspect this may not be possible):
>
> I finally figured out how to get into the Synology - just put its IP
> address on my network into a Friefox tab, then the default username and
> pass are 'admin' and .
>
> Once logged in there was a tab labeled 'Storage' that showed my drive,
> including its serial number and other features. I was shocked to see
> that it is 6TB, not 8TB. I could swear that I bought an 8TB, but it
> really is a 6TB, clearly visible from the first part of the serial
> number: 'WD6002.' And it's a Red Pro drive, which WD currently warrants
> for five years, so at least I got that right. And yes, I understand
> that warranty does not necessarily equal reliability, but replacing
> failed drives under warranty is very costly for manufacturers, so they
> probably have better quality control for the drives that they sell with
> longer warranties. And in any event, length of warranty is the only
> gauge available to me.
>
> There is a greater than zero possibility that I did buy an 8TB drive
> and the seller shipped me a 6TB instead and I never noticed it. If I
> ever find the purchase documentation I will certainly check this out.
> In most states this would count as misrepresentation and statute of
> limitations is usually two years *from discovery*. On the other hand,
> it may not be worth the hassle - the price differential between a 6TB
> and an 8TB is not a huge amount.
>
> Now that I know what I have I am thinking of replacing the probably
> failing 5TB USB 3.0 drive with the 6TB from the Synology in a new USB
> 3.0 case, then buy a new 8TB for the Synology. One advantage of this is
> that my rsync command makes a mirror of the 5TB on the Synology disk,
> so it is all ready to go. Once the new 8TB is in the Synology and
> partitioned/formatted my rsync command will make it the new backup
> without effort from me. I like things that are easy.
>
> Now I need to investigate USB enclosures. More shopping and figuring
> stuff out.
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Re: [PLUG] Movie fan needs storage space

[Chuck Hast]

My experience has been that WD appears to have a much better longevity. I
have a box littered with Seagate drives, indeed I have a 4TB drive that has
my movie collection on it, I started it up one day and heard the "click of
death"
I keep the drive with the intention of getting the electronics from another
drive
and trying to recover the thing. It was not that old, and I believe the
failure was
in the electronics rather than the hardware.

I have had a lot of Seagates die, but every few WD drives, and never had one
just up and quit, the WD's always gave me some sort of warning prior to
taking
a dive, the Seagates were bad about just failing.

The idea of purchasing a external drive case and buiding your own drive is a
good idea. That way you can pull it out and plug it right into the Mobo,
viewing
what you might not be able to view at the far end of a USB link.

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Galen Seitz <gal...@seitzassoc.com> wrote:

> On 03/30/17 19:39, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> > So what should I do? There are 8TB external USB 3.0 drives out there,
> > and that was my first thought. But there are a bewildering number of
> > them out there and trying to figure out warranties is challenging. For
> > example, there is a WD Mybook that Amazon says has a three year
> > warranty, but the same drive at other stores says it has a two year
> > warranty. And there is a Mybook Pro that costs three times as much but
> > has only a two year warranty. Some of the advertising data has to be
> > wrong, but figuring out what is wrong and what is right is a confusing
> > task. And then each drive has competitors, but trying to assess which
> > drive is best is another task. (I'm mostly only interested in
> > warranties - I don't need speed or other whiz-bang features.)
>
> Not sure what your best solution is, but personally I would avoid all of
> the prepackaged hard drives.  With those, it's difficult to know what
> you're getting.  Should you decide to continue with an external USB
> drive, I suggest shopping for a bare drive, and then picking up a
> suitable external USB enclosure.  This way you know exactly what you are
> getting.  For instance, the WD Black and Datacenter drives appear to
> have 5 year warranties, as does the Seagate BarraCuda Pro.
>
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Re: [PLUG] CentOS 7 iso too big to burn...

[Chuck Hast]

That is what I do, I carry one that uses something called MultiSystem, it
lets
me boot a whole bunch of them, then when I am showing off Linux distros I
boot several, and let people get an idea of what they are.

There are a whole lot of options for booting from a jump drive, I have not
used
a DVD now in years, I run into machines that do not have a DVD drive on
them,
and I do not carry a DVD drive around with me all of the time, so the jump
drive
is the way to go.

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Nat Taylor <biob...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with above wholeheartedly.  I was trying to go with the flow of
> dude's idea, but that 's a valid point about partitioning.
> I don't even know if dd'ing to a different partition on a drive you weren't
> trying to format would work.
> a 5 dollar usb stick should do.  Maybe 10 dollars if you have to go to Fred
> Meyers to get it.
>
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:51 AM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I would advise you against trying to install Linux to drive you just
> > booted from - the things will likely go wrong as soon as the installer
> > start partitioning the drive.
> > While you could pre-partition the drive for the install before booting
> > from it - avoiding partitioning - you could still run into trouble when
> > making the partitions bootable.
> > Put the ISO on USB stick, you will save yourself a lot of time and
> > trouble. Here is how:
> > https://www.linuxunit.com/how-to-create-bootable-usb-key-centos7/
> > Alternatively you could setup boot server and install from that via PXE
> > - If you have spare PC and do not mind setting up DHCP, tftp, NFS
> > server and setting up PXE boot image. Although that would probably take
> > longer to setup than driving to the nearest store for a USB stick. The
> > advantage, you could automate it and use the setup to install a lot of
> > PCs pretty quickly.
> > Best luck, Tomas
> > On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 23:21 -0700, Nat Taylor wrote:
> > > Install from usb key?
> > > https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/InstallFromUSBkey
> > > might fit on an 8gb, def a 16gb
> > >
> > > Or maybe just dd the install file onto your partition and pretend its
> > > a usb
> > > key and tell your bios to boot from that partition?
> > >
> > > dd if=CentOS-6.5-x86_64-bin-DVD1.iso of=/dev/sdb1
> > >
> > > note that I put the 1 on the end of /dev/sdb , as you are dd'ing to
> > > the
> > > partition, not the drive.   Worth a try.  make sure you get that
> > > partition
> > > right, so you don't wipe stuff out.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:59 PM, Michael Robinson <
> > > mich...@robinson-west.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The CentOS 7 iso is 7.8 gigs.  My DVD-R media tops out at about
> > > > half that.  The server I'm trying to upgrade would have to use
> > > > an external DVD drive in order to upgrade from a DVD.
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to upgrade from CentOS 6.8 to CentOS 7.3.  I want
> > > > to install CentOS 7.3 on a newly installed and unused 500 gig SSD.
> > > > So far, I have created a 10G ext2 partition at the beginning of the
> > > > new SSD and I have copied the CentOS 7.3 iso's contents to it.  I
> > > > used a loop mount to mount the iso and then cp -av.  I am trying
> > > > to figure out how to install from a local hard drive instead of
> > > > a DVD disk.
> > > >
> > > > I have Grub 1 in CentOS 6.8, is there a way to trigger the
> > > > installer
> > > > from my existing Grub on the second SSD?  Can I seamlessly upgrade
> > > > the old CentOS 6.8 to use Grub 2 instead of Grub 1?
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Re: [PLUG] Monitor... dead audio

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Yes, I have got into the plate voltage on a pair of 6146 finals on a small
CW
transmitter one time. (not fun, rest assured). I have not taken the back
off yet,
but that was going to be my next step. Try to figure out what was what, if
there
were reasonable numbers on the chips that look like the audio section google
them to see what surfaces. Then take the sig gen and inject audio on the
3.5mm
input for a computer using VGA as the video. See if I can see audio on the
chip that appears to be the audio amp, if so but see nothing out look and
see
if it is the chip or associated circuitry. Remember this tv was built back
in the
time of the puffing caps, remember all those millions of little green
electrolytic
caps that were put out on the market with the wrong electrolyte?
Back in those days I worked with glass container inspectors, the servo amps
in those machines were of course full of capacitors little GREEN buggers,
and
almost all of them had the green plague. I had to replace a life worth of
servo
amps due to that issue. Those and a Netgear switch we used in those machines
had the little green ones across -5vdc in the on board power supply of the
switch. I have one setting on my desk here flashing away, they were just
swap-
ping them out and tossing the old ones, I took some home and swapped out
the bad caps and now I have nice gigabit switches. Those were little 8 port
ProSafe Gigabit switches the GS108.

Oh yes there are a LOT Of complaints about Westinghouse, I got this TV/mon-
itor for $75, It has worked well until now, the video is great, makes a
great
monitor to use in a training room. Now where is the screw driver I need to
remove those back screws


On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:43 AM, King Beowulf <kingbeow...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 03/24/2017 11:31 PM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > Folks,
> > I have a Westinghouse 37" monitor. It has HDMI and if there is audio on
> the
> > HDMI it should be heard through the speakers on the monitor. This thing
> has
> > great video, I would like to fix the audio issue if I can, I use the
> thing
> > with an
> > RPi. So far I have hit zero on finding a service manual.
> >
> > The model is a LVM-37w3se. It has a Westinghouse logo on it and you can
> > find the USER manuals all over the 'net, but the service manual shines in
> > it's
> > absence.
> >
> > It is great for a traininig monitor and since it does not have the
> receiver
> > in it
> > people are not going to be able to move it to TV channels and use it
> when I
> > am not around. I guess if the Pi is hooked up to it they could do video
> that
> > way but there are ways to defeat that (remove Pi and put in pocket) I was
> > using
> > it to give my wife some training (she does not like to wear glasses and
> this
> > monitor was great for that), but now I have to push audio to an
> alternative
> > audio device, unit had great audio, it just died.
> >
>
> I don't think you will have much luck with either Westinghouse or
> whoever built the monitor.  I have Westinghouse 32" 720p TV bought on
> closeout sale as a bedroom spare.  The Speaker went out right when
> warranty exprired - well, once in a while it pops on for 15-30 min.
> This is via internal tuner, RCA jack, HDMI etc.  It has a headphone jack
> which works when routed to a, well, headphone, or powered set of
> speakers.  Drove me nuts to try to figure out what was the deal and
> given the potential expense of replacing the main PCB (these are not
> like old CRT TVs where you can swap out various chunks), I just gave up.
>  I bought a 55" LG 4k UHD for the living room and moved the RCA (another
> sad corporate decline) 40" 1080p to the bedroom. I took a chance on the
> Westinghouse since the RCA held up ok.
>
> Westinghouse is no longer the company it once was.  After it bought CBS,
> CBS then sold to viacom, it spun off "Westinghouse" as a brand licensing
> company, the hardware was all sold off to various entities (Siemens,
> Toshiba, etc...).  So when you see the name...just say no.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westinghouse_Digital
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westinghouse_Electric_Company
>
> And this one will rattle your eyelids:
> http://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/tv-
> brands-arent-always-what-they-seem/
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Re: [PLUG] Monitor... dead audio

[Chuck Hast]

Yes, I have tried both inputs, and zip. There is something wrong in the
audio
path. I can feed another TV with the HDMI cable from the RPi and get good
audio, so the issue is with the TV/Monitor. I can tell you this much
Westinghouse
is useless, I sent them a note to the address given for such issues, they
sent
me a USER manual which I had stated very clearly that I had. Then they sent
me a 800 number, I called that, they told me they were going to send it
right
out to me, they sent me a USER manual, called them and told them that I
already had the USER manual, and that I needed the service manual, guy told
me he did not have it, asked to talk to a manager and he hung up on me.

Called back, got a chick, she pulled up the trouble ticket number and put me
on hold, and never came back online. Whatabunchaputzes...

I have looked high and low for it, I am trying to go through the FCC it has
a
FCC symbol on the back but no grantee code. So not sure what is going on,
flat screen tv/monitors fall under part 15 because they radiate, so they
have
to have gone through the radiation testing, unless the label is boggus.

Once I can get the grantee I will KNOW who the actual manufacterer is, and
I can try to go to them. Or FCC may have it on the site, I have got diagrams
of devices off of the FCC site before.


On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Galen Seitz <gal...@seitzassoc.com> wrote:

> On 03/25/17 02:35, wes wrote:
> > he did specify that he can send the audio elsewhere, but he likes the
> > Westinghouse monitor's speakers and wants to fix them.
> >
> > personally, I'd verify that it doesn't work with another device first.
> >
> > -wes
>
> Agreed.  First confirm that it truly is broken by trying it with another
> device *and* cable that are known to work.
>
> I see that it has a line-level 3.5 mm jack.  I would definitely try
> feeding it an analog audio signal through this jack.  Alternatively, you
> could try the audio RCA jacks.  This should tell you whether the audio
> amp itself is broken, or whether the problem lies somewhere upstream.
>
> Not to insult you, but you should also confirm it's not muted.  Even if
> the on-screen display doesn't indicate it, I'd toggle the mute button a
> few times.  Finally, I also suggest disconnecting power for a minute or
> so and then reconnecting.  Perhaps the firmware has just gotten confused.
>
> Beyond this, I think you're getting into oscilloscope territory.
>
>
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[PLUG] Monitor... dead audio

[Chuck Hast]

Folks,
I have a Westinghouse 37" monitor. It has HDMI and if there is audio on the
HDMI it should be heard through the speakers on the monitor. This thing has
great video, I would like to fix the audio issue if I can, I use the thing
with an
RPi. So far I have hit zero on finding a service manual.

The model is a LVM-37w3se. It has a Westinghouse logo on it and you can
find the USER manuals all over the 'net, but the service manual shines in
it's
absence.

It is great for a traininig monitor and since it does not have the receiver
in it
people are not going to be able to move it to TV channels and use it when I
am not around. I guess if the Pi is hooked up to it they could do video that
way but there are ways to defeat that (remove Pi and put in pocket) I was
using
it to give my wife some training (she does not like to wear glasses and this
monitor was great for that), but now I have to push audio to an alternative
audio device, unit had great audio, it just died.

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Re: [PLUG] serial communication over ethernet (VY)

[Chuck Hast]

Registering new
> > address
> > record for fe80::3190:e312:6a33:901e on enp3s0.*.
> > Mar 20 15:39:45 en12-beekeeper kernel: igb :03:00.0 enp3s0: igb:
> > enp3s0
> > NIC Link is Down
> > Mar 20 15:39:46 en12-beekeeper kernel: igb :03:00.0 enp3s0: igb:
> > enp3s0
> > NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX
> > Mar 20 15:39:46 en12-beekeeper NetworkManager[875]: 
> > [1490049586.9023] device (enp3s0): link connected
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Mike C. <mconno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Hello All:
> > > >
> > > > I am looking for a mechanism from Linux to configure a device
> > > > that's a
> > > > small ethernet server:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://www.lantronix.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/XPort-AR_CR.pdf
> > > >
> > > > The initial steps involve configuring its BAUD rate, IP address
> > > > etc..
> > > > On Windows, per their instructions, folks are asked to use things
> > > > like
> > > > telnet and hyperterminal,
> > > > or other serial communication tools.
> > > >
> > > > On Linux, I have configured serial ports before, using things
> > > > like
> > > > minicom.  But those devices would show up as /dev/TTY***.In
> > > > this
> > > > device, it is showing up in an ethernet port.
> > > >
> > > > what tools can I use to configure this device in such scenario
> > > > under
> > > Linux?
> > > > I know exactly which ethernet port it is connected to (e.g.
> > > >  eth1)
> > > >
> > > > thanks in advanced for any tip.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Are you connecting to the device via a serial port?
> > >
> > > Standard configuration for serial port communication is: 9600, 8,
> > > N, 1
> > >
> > > i.e.
> > > Bits per second (Baud Rate): 9600
> > > Data Bits: 8
> > > Parity: None
> > > Stop Bits: 1
> > > Flow Control: None
> > >
> > > This getting started document explains how to connect via the
> > > serial port.
> > > https://www.lantronix.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/XPort-AR_QS.pdf
> > >
> > > The device also has DHCP enabled, so you could just plug into your
> > > LAN. You
> > > can run the command arp -a before plugging in it and then after.
> > > You should
> > > see the new mac & ip addr entry in your computer's arp table.
> > >
> > > Here's an example of an arp table entry on my computer:
> > >
> > > gateway (10.0.0.1) at 00:00:ca:11:22:33 [ether] on enp2s0
> > >
> > > The first 6 characters of any mac addr are reserved for the OUI,
> > > Organizationally Unique Identifier. In my example arp table entry,
> > > 00:00:ca
> > > is for Arris.
> > >
> > > Lantronix's OUI is: 00:80:A3
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
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Re: [PLUG] Wired security camera systems (was Wireless video cameras?)

[Chuck Hast]

Neal,
I have looked at all of the stuff that you find out there and seems that
you have
to aim pretty high to get to what ZoneMinder does. ZoneMinder is just one of
the applications that can run on the Linux box, though I generally dedicate
a
box to ZoneMinder because I want it to leave as little trail as possible.
It can
email/text or do other automated alarming and file transfer. There is at
least
one published use of it as a way to record those speeding through a
neighbor-
hood area. I believe there is still a link to it somewhere on the ZoneMinder
page. Being open source if you want you can go in and mod it to whatever
you need if you feel you have the knowledge. And there is a very active set
of forums for it, where you can usually find someone that can give you an
answer or get you going in the correct direction.

I usually run it on Ubuntu Server or CentOS. (been a while) No gui needed
as it is all handled through the web browser. There viewers out there for
it so
you can view it from an Android or iOS device. It works quite well on FF and
Chrome browsers, and I guess the newer MS browsers, for a long time I.E.
needed some additional stuff to work. But it looked like the south end of a
north bound horse.

Just the fact that ZM is LInux based and runs so well (It is one of those
devices
you forget exist until it tells you something happened) is a tribute to
FOSS in
general.

I look at the stuff at Costco, Fry's, Walmart and anyone else that sells
those
things and it looks nice on the shelf but in real life I have never seen
one that
gave the quality that I have found I was able to get with ZM. NOTE, like
audio
equipment, your signal quality is only as good as your cameras, cheap
cameras
cheap video, but ZM does allow you to even squeeze reasonable video out of
some pretty bad cameras.

You can even put it on a RPi it will handle probably only one camera, but
that
is a cheap way to get started. Or if you have a spare computer laying around
put it on there and start playing.

Beware, it as a LOT of knobs and tweaks, but once you get it running it will
run well as is, as you learn it you can go in and start adjusting things.

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Neal <nsed...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > When I did security camera installs I put the DVR on a box hidden away
> > some-
> > where and we used a "baitbox" older PC running all of the camera screens
> on
> > it located someplace so if the bad guys broke in, they found that device
> > and
> > took it for the DVR. Running ZoneMinder headless is one of the great
> things
> > about that product.
> >
>
> Thanks for the great idea Chuck. Sounds like the perfect application for an
> old laptop.
>
> I'm re-doing the home security DVR based on a Zmodo cheapie (~$100) from
> Woot!) bare bones system that came with w/4 cameras. Have been running two
> cameras with motion detection triggered capture aimed at the cluster
> mailbox across the street. After 4 years the spare 320GB drive I threw in
> it is only about 75% full. We don't have much traffic on our street so it
> only captures a couple dozen 60 second clips a day as a point of reference.
>
> The one time it would have paid off the picture was too blurry to tell if
> the suspected perp had the missing item in his hand or not. The cameras
> that came with the DVR have a very narrow angle field of view, one thing to
> watch out for in these package deals.
>
> Not paranoid, just curious, mostly. Makes it possible to tell if the
> postman/postwoman/postLGBTQ has been by for the day if nothing else.
>
> If anyone has integrated one of these puppies such that the Linux server
> handles the texting/emailing of events vs. letting the DVR do it I'm all
> ears & eyes. I haven't looked since I first got it and I am going to look
> into it as soon as I can get a round tuit.
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Re: [PLUG] Wireless video cameras?

[Chuck Hast]

OH yes, run your cameras on a isolated network. I never mix my cameras into
the LAN, the only point of entry from the outside (if you need it ) is the
DVR.
With ZoneMinder, you can make it pretty hard to access it if you want. Or
if you
just want local console, you can view from the DVR.

When I did security camera installs I put the DVR on a box hidden away some-
where and we used a "baitbox" older PC running all of the camera screens on
it located someplace so if the bad guys broke in, they found that device and
took it for the DVR. Running ZoneMinder headless is one of the great things
about that product.

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That is what I like about ZoneMinder, it is FOSS and it is your job to
> make it as
> secure as you want. I had an instance where I thought I had removed all of
> the
> PhPMYAdmin stuff from one (I had installed it to do some changes) I did
> not get
> a small piece removed and the bad guys got in through that, but they were
> not
> able to do more than call attention to themselves due to the fact that the
> file
> system would not let them do what they wanted to do. Now if I put
> PhPMYAdmin
> on something, I make SURE I remove the whole enchilada. A good firewall on
> it with proper rules will keep it clean.
>
> As far as the cameras, someone pointed out that even Wifi need to be fed
> with
> 12vdc (some are 5) If you try to run it with solar that is like putting up
> a big sign
> attracting the bad guys. Best if you can figure out how to get the cat5/6
> out to
> the camera and use PoE to power it, then you have only one cable going
> there.
>
> Also ZoneMinder captures the video as jpg files (you can use other
> formats) I
> found out that law enforcement realy REALY likes jpg images, as they have
> all
> kinds of tools to look at them with. The other formats not so much. After
> we had
> the breakin at the neighbor house, the sheriff asked if I had video, I did
> and I
> gave him the previous month, they came back and asked if I had 6 months
> worth (I did) I just gave them all that was on the hard drive, which went
> back
> about a year. The purps had been casing the place for about 6 months all
> told.
>
> The one that they saw in the video was known to the neighbor.
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, Vedanta Teacher wrote:
>>
>> > www.krebsonsecurity.com just posted a piece of vulnerabilities in DVR
>> > cameras.
>>
>>Which is why I asked if there are any known to be secure or that could
>> be
>> made secure.
>>
>> >  Personally I will not be joining the IoT. I'm doing this from memory
>> but,
>> > in the Mayan *Popol Vuh* (yes I have a copy & I've read it) the Maya are
>> > attacked by their household goods; chairs, tables, pots, pans, etc. With
>> > my cell phone & TV already spying on me & a leaky IP address I don't
>> want
>> > to add to the mix...
>>
>>Don't forget your microwave oven! You want to be dressed when in front
>> of
>> it because it's taking your picture and transmitting it somewhere.
>>
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Re: [PLUG] Wireless video cameras?

[Chuck Hast]

That is what I like about ZoneMinder, it is FOSS and it is your job to make
it as
secure as you want. I had an instance where I thought I had removed all of
the
PhPMYAdmin stuff from one (I had installed it to do some changes) I did not
get
a small piece removed and the bad guys got in through that, but they were
not
able to do more than call attention to themselves due to the fact that the
file
system would not let them do what they wanted to do. Now if I put PhPMYAdmin
on something, I make SURE I remove the whole enchilada. A good firewall on
it with proper rules will keep it clean.

As far as the cameras, someone pointed out that even Wifi need to be fed
with
12vdc (some are 5) If you try to run it with solar that is like putting up
a big sign
attracting the bad guys. Best if you can figure out how to get the cat5/6
out to
the camera and use PoE to power it, then you have only one cable going
there.

Also ZoneMinder captures the video as jpg files (you can use other formats)
I
found out that law enforcement realy REALY likes jpg images, as they have
all
kinds of tools to look at them with. The other formats not so much. After
we had
the breakin at the neighbor house, the sheriff asked if I had video, I did
and I
gave him the previous month, they came back and asked if I had 6 months
worth (I did) I just gave them all that was on the hard drive, which went
back
about a year. The purps had been casing the place for about 6 months all
told.

The one that they saw in the video was known to the neighbor.

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, Vedanta Teacher wrote:
>
> > www.krebsonsecurity.com just posted a piece of vulnerabilities in DVR
> > cameras.
>
>Which is why I asked if there are any known to be secure or that could
> be
> made secure.
>
> >  Personally I will not be joining the IoT. I'm doing this from memory
> but,
> > in the Mayan *Popol Vuh* (yes I have a copy & I've read it) the Maya are
> > attacked by their household goods; chairs, tables, pots, pans, etc. With
> > my cell phone & TV already spying on me & a leaky IP address I don't want
> > to add to the mix...
>
>Don't forget your microwave oven! You want to be dressed when in front
> of
> it because it's taking your picture and transmitting it somewhere.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Browsers and banks

[Chuck Hast]

I should have clarified my self here, I usually get that from something
that I
know is OK (NOT A BANK) if it were a bank I would run the other way. I did
get one from BofA one day, the web page was legit, they had messed up
something. I called them, they told me yes, to wait a bit that they were
working
on it.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Michael Rasmussen <mich...@michaelsnet.us>
wrote:

> On 2017-03-08 07:05, Chuck Hast wrote:
>
> > Usually when I get that error with Chrome/Chromium, I go down to the
> > advanced
> > button and hit that, then you should get a button that tells it to
> > accept
> > the cert
>
> Doing so with a financial institution is extremely ill advised.
> I was tempted to say "financial security suicide."
>
> Banks, brokerages, etc. keep their certs up to date. If an expired cert
> is presented to clients automations are in place to create internal
> trouble tickets and resolve the problem quickly.
>
> Don't accept an invalid SSL cert for a financial institution.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Wireless video cameras?

[Chuck Hast]

I use ZoneMinder as the DVR and I prefer wired cameras if you can run the
cat5/6. I have used wifi linked cams but never realy trusted them. If you go
wireless,  I would go with a good product. I do NOT trust the memory cards
in
cameras, seen too many fail, and just when u need them. There is a lot
of junque out there on the cheap end and a lot of it demands a windows box
to
pull the video.

ZoneMinder has a good list of cameras that willl work with OSS. Take a look
at their
web page:
ZoneMinder.com

I had a similar issue in tampa neighbor daughter was using the mailboxes as
drug
drop, put up a camera aimed at the boxes and saw the whole thing, also got
pix of
the obese purp that broke into a neighbor home. He stopped in his Jeep
Cherokee
in front of the boxes, got him his car and the tattoo on his left arm.

I use axis for the commrrcial installs. They are not cheap though, but if
you go
wireless you will not have issues with security if your Wifi is locked down.

On Mar 13, 2017 4:52 PM, "Rich Shepard"  wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
> > Is such hardware and suitable linux software available? Recommendations
> > and advice are needed.
>
>A less expensive and highly reliable solution would be for me to mount a
> trail camera (or two) outside and just exchange SD cards now and then.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Browsers and banks

[Chuck Hast]

Who do you bank with? Popup blocker? I have run into that though I think
that
it is somewhat hypocritical of banks to demand all kinds of security and
then
demand that you disable your popup blocker so you can use their web pages.

Usually when I get that error with Chrome/Chromium, I go down to the
advanced
button and hit that, then you should get a button that tells it to accept
the cert
and do it anyhow, it will howl and tell you that the site may take your
first born
or hold you ransom for the rest of your life, but if you insist it should
take you
to the page in question. Just be sure that you are going to the real thing,
I had
some bad guys try to hijack a machine at a customer site, they got as far as
getting it to show a bank login screen, but the part that would capture the
login
and password did not work (the security in the file system kept the page
from
writing the info to a text file which the bad program was supposed to call
home
and send to the bad guys), anyhow the bank screen looked like the real
thing,
the only reason it got caught early on was the URL directed to a Barkleys
Bank
screen and the local ISP caught it and called me, they had turned the link
off
I went to the site, they turned it back on, found the source of the problem
(some
code that was supposed to have been purged from that machine but somehow
did not get totally removed, it was PHPADMIN, which I had removed but the
part that stayed on allowed them to get into the machine and put that bad
code.

Once I found it and purged it and the remaining code for phpadmin, it was no
longer an issue.

Just make sure that you are not being sent to something that is not what it
looks like, this LOOKED exactly like the same thing, the giveaway was the
URL.

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

>Running Slackware-14.1 on this desktop with three browsers installed:
> firefox-45.8.0 (upgraded today)
> chromium-54.0.2840.100
> opera-12.16 (upgraded today)
>
>This morning I tried to download February's bank account statements but
> failed using each browser.
>
>Firefox has worked before (but my bank sometimes has difficulty working
> with new version). Today, clicking on the 'Statements' link opened a new
> tab
> which immediately closed. Tried several times, then logged out.
>
>Chromium tells me that https is insecure (yeah, right) and won't load
> the
> login page. (It shuffles its feet in the dust and shows, 'aw, shucks. We
> screwed up' as a pitiful excuse.)
>
>Opera allows me to access the account page but does not display an
> links,
> including the 'Statements' one.
>
>Has anyone experienced similar issues with browsers and banks?
>
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Re: [PLUG] Reverse SSH tunnel

[Chuck Hast]

The ozone machines I worked on did exactly that, the PLC in the machine
would
set up a SSH connection to the host end. From that point on, there was a
pipe
between the remote device and the host end. As far as I know there were not
issues with it as far as cracking or intercepting it. The host end was a
Linux
machine. I can not remember all of the bits and pieces but do rememeber that
was how the machines were linked to the host.

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:03 PM, VY <vyau5...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the reply, I am now much more comfortable with this solution
>
> -v
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 2:28 PM, chris (fool) mccraw <gen...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I too have never heard of any problem with this setup (which I've also
> used
> > with success, including the autossh part).  Would be curious to know if
> > anyone has substantive issues they can point to rather than scuttlebutt!
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Reverse ssh tunnel is secure solution, if configured properly and using
> > > robust keys, access control and strong password. It keeps control over
> > > the connection with the connecting user/site as it should be in normal
> > > customer/supplier relationship.
> > > I do not want to speculate about what you've heard. If you were not
> > > told why/what the problem is, I would do due diligence on the ssh side
> > > (patching CVE reviews, access logs, configuration, best practices, key
> > > rotation, etc.), formally request details from the person making the
> > > security issue claim. If the outcome is not negative for the existing
> > > ssh proxy/tunnel a measured by data, not by fear, and there are not
> > > other considerations against it (such as maintainability, existing VPN
> > > infrastructure, etc.), I would recommend keeping it.
> > > There are many FUD type claims against openSSH, openSSL,
> > > insertYourFavouriteProtocolHere based on past issues in favor of other
> > > closed, small, not well maintained/updated alternatives. Despite the
> > > bad press/performance in the past, Network Time Protocol, OpenSSH and
> > > OpenSSL are Linux Foundation Core Infrastructure Projects for a while -
> > > with significant quantitative quality and funding improvements, reviews
> > > and full disclosures in the open.
> > > I hope it helps, Tomas
> > > On Fri, 2017-03-03 at 09:13 -0800, VY wrote:
> > > > Unfortunately, I have no access to that person anymore.
> > > >
> > > > Based on your experience, there were no issues that you have run into
> > > > with
> > > > such deployment?
> > > >
> > > > -v
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Robert Citek <robert.ci...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I would ask the person who told you that this is not secure to
> > > > > elaborate.
> > > > > I have worked with a number of companies that do this. So I am as
> > > > > curious
> > > > > as you are.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > - Robert
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:01 AM VY <vyau5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear All:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am supporting a client that has product linux PCs running in
> > > > > > the field.
> > > > > > The person before me has built a reverse SSH tunnel (connection
> > > > > > initiated
> > > > > > by the device itself back to us and the connection is monitored
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > autossh).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was told this is not secure.   I am no expert in security.
> > > > > >  What are
> > > > > the
> > > > > > possible issues with this approach?  And what would be a more
> > > > > > secure
> > > > > > mechanism than reverse SSH?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -v
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

[Chuck Hast]

Rich,
I tested both sites and they both came up clean. I am no longer seeing this,
not sure what to say about it. I at first thought it was my system too when
I
first saw it but like I said earlier it was on both my machines.


On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
> > This morning I tested these sites from a different host and they all
> > displayed and worked as expected. So the problem is on my desktop
> > server/workstation.
>
> > I rebooted the system but this does not fix the problem. I'm at a loss
> > where to look for the source of this new issue as I've not before
> > encountered anything like it.
>
>Today I re-installed firefox-45.7.0 but this made no difference. I'm
> looking for suggestions for where to look for this problem. It's not
> consistent (for example, some images on bbc.com and reuters.com display,
> some do not; all images on other news sites display, none display on other
> news sites) and affects only this desktop.
>
>Since rebooting the system and re-installing firefox did not fix the
> problem where else should I look?
>
> Puzzled,
>
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

[Chuck Hast]

I had I think it was linkdin got idiot for a bit this morning but it came
back. I am
doing job hunting, and was seeing those weird screens there for a while. It
is
bad enough dealing with Hughesnet that can not seem to get links to some
sites that I am trying to reach, I have a wait a bit and THEN I can get
there. I
hope to soon find a job, and get moved to some place where we do not have
to live with Hughesnet, whattapieaceofcrap...


On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Chuck Hast wrote:
>
> > I saw that also, did the usual close down, no joy, reboot, no joy, then I
> > tested from another machine and got the same thing so figured it was "out
> > yonder somewhere". I still have a couple that come up like that but most
> > of them are back to normal. This was on both FF and Chrome. Looks like WU
> > is back. I see it all correctly now.
>
>Thanks, Chuck. Still no improvements here. Guess I'll wait and see if
> things get better on the desktop. Can use firefox on the laptop if
> necessary.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

[Chuck Hast]

I saw that also, did the usual close down, no joy, reboot, no joy, then I
tested
from another machine and got the same thing so figured it was "out yonder
somewhere". I still have a couple that come up like that but most of them
are
back to normal. This was on both FF and Chrome. Looks like WU is back. I
see it all correctly now.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Larry Brigman wrote:
>
> > I saw a report on the AWS S3 outage. Lots of companies place their static
> > files in S3 storage. This is probably what hit you and a bunch of other
> > sites.
>
> Larry,
>
>I saw that report, too. That was on Tuesday, the last day sites
> displayed
> correctly here. If it's a cache issue (because these sites are still not
> correctly displaying on the desktop, but do on the laptop) that should have
> been cleared during the rebooting. No?
>
>Think I'll manually clear the cache and see if that makes a difference.
>
> Thanks again,
>
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Re: [PLUG] Looking for Recruiter Recommendations

[Chuck Hast]

Have to give it some thought...

I recall applying for a field service job servicing automatic barriers,
like those
used in secure facilities and embassies. The ones that pop up out of the
ground.
I submitted my resume on line, two minutes go by and I get a call, "can you
come
to our office in Clearwater, (FL) tomorrow?" I told them yes as I lived in
Tampa
at that time and it was just a drive across the bay. Went to the interview
the next
day everyone wanted to talk to me from the owner down. They made me an offer
that matched what I was making at the old place of employment (which had got
rid of all of the USA and EU FSE's because they were hiring them out of SE.
Asia at wicked cheap rates). They told me I was the guy they needed, and
that
they just had to go through the act if interviewing, I got a couple of
calls over
the next 3 days that all was going well and I would be back in there the
next
week to do paper work. Then they went dark. I let a week go by and called.
They
told me that they had found a guy to do the job for $35K/year and had hired
him. Turns out right after they hired him they shipped him off to Iraq to
work on
automated barriers there. FOR $35K/year. Glad I did NOT get it because they
would have had to pay me a LOT more than that to go to Iraq...

That technology had all kinds of electronics and PLC's associated with it,
there
were cameras and image recognition, neat stuff.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Jonas Augusto <jonas@gmail.com> wrote:

> Write it all, please. I am curious
>
> On 24 Feb 2017 15:46, "Chuck Hast" <wch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ha! I lost my job back at the end of Sept. I have been doing all of the
> > usual
> > stuff too. No joy! I think that most of them want entry level people and
> > when
> > they see my resume they know that I will probably not stay around long be
> > cause they are not paying enough, so they do not even worry, or I get the
> > usual "we have looked at your resume you are very good but we have
> decided
> > to go with another party".
> >
> > Another one I am running into is the "We are sorry to inform you that we
> > lost
> > the funding for the position" so we will not be hiring anyone... Why did
> > you offer
> > in the first place?
> >
> > I am a field service guy used to heavy travel, have a passport and global
> > access, I have been shot at, (Nicaragua, Bahamas) Bombed (airport in
> > Managua
> > Nicaragua) and walked away from 3 airplane crashes, and other disasters,
> > but
> > still love field service. Maybe I should try to write a book and
> retire...
> > Naw people
> > who retire die...
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:31 PM, c <cbpurc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am trying to find work in Portland from out of town. I have some
> > friends
> > > in town, but no-one that has gotten their jobs through an agency or
> > > recruiter.
> > >
> > > Can anyone recommend anyone that they have worked with as being
> > reasonably
> > > decent?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Purcell
> > >
> > > p.s. Yes I am doing the standard searching for jobs on linkedin and
> > > craigslist too.
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Re: [PLUG] Looking for Recruiter Recommendations

[Chuck Hast]

I have been looking for some headhunter or agency that specializes in field
service work, but so far no real luck. Most of them shotgun you with a lot
of
useless stuff like killing bugs and rodents... (under field service)

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:38 PM, chris (fool) mccraw <gen...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I've had stellar success as a job hunter with Edgelink :
> http://www.edgelink.com.  They are more about "let us figure out what
> you're good at and filter jobs for you" than "throw you at everything
> available and see what sticks".  They'll interview you before suggesting
> anything.  They found me two kickass jobs in a period of a couple of years
> and that's it - never sent another opportunity my way other than the 2 that
> I took.  Batting 1.000 for a recruiting agency feels amazing to me (since
> just about every other recruiter experience I had before them was crappy),
> so I recommend them over and over again.
>
> Even before I look on craigslist and linkedin (and indeed, I'm assuming?) I
> check out this job board: https://jobs.siliconflorist.com/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:31 PM, c <cbpurc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am trying to find work in Portland from out of town. I have some
> friends
> > in town, but no-one that has gotten their jobs through an agency or
> > recruiter.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend anyone that they have worked with as being
> reasonably
> > decent?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Purcell
> >
> > p.s. Yes I am doing the standard searching for jobs on linkedin and
> > craigslist too.
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Re: [PLUG] Looking for Recruiter Recommendations

[Chuck Hast]

Ha! I lost my job back at the end of Sept. I have been doing all of the
usual
stuff too. No joy! I think that most of them want entry level people and
when
they see my resume they know that I will probably not stay around long be
cause they are not paying enough, so they do not even worry, or I get the
usual "we have looked at your resume you are very good but we have decided
to go with another party".

Another one I am running into is the "We are sorry to inform you that we
lost
the funding for the position" so we will not be hiring anyone... Why did
you offer
in the first place?

I am a field service guy used to heavy travel, have a passport and global
access, I have been shot at, (Nicaragua, Bahamas) Bombed (airport in Managua
Nicaragua) and walked away from 3 airplane crashes, and other disasters, but
still love field service. Maybe I should try to write a book and retire...
Naw people
who retire die...


On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:31 PM, c <cbpurc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am trying to find work in Portland from out of town. I have some friends
> in town, but no-one that has gotten their jobs through an agency or
> recruiter.
>
> Can anyone recommend anyone that they have worked with as being reasonably
> decent?
>
> Thanks,
> Purcell
>
> p.s. Yes I am doing the standard searching for jobs on linkedin and
> craigslist too.
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Re: [PLUG] boot filled

[Chuck Hast]

This works for me:
http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/remove-old-kernels-ubuntu-16-04/

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:36 AM, David <dafr+p...@dafr.us> wrote:

> On 02/24/2017 07:57 AM, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> > The last time this happened Tomas told me what to do, but I did not write
> > it down and my mind is a sieve.  What is the solution?  There are 9
> > archived images.  How do I safely throw out the older ones?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Denis
>
> Howdy.
>
> You don't provide quite enough information, but I can get you close
> enough that you should be able to figure it out from there.
>
> If you have a RH based system, you will want to use yum to remove the
> oldest one or two kernel RPMs. I'd suggest starting with find out your
> current kernel release, and then listing which kernel images are installed:
>
> $ uname -r # so you know what you can't remove
> $ rpm -qa | grep kernel-[2-4]
> $ sudo yum remove ${package name from above}
>
> If you are using a Debian based system, it's similar:
>
> $ uname -r # so you know what you can't remove
> $ dpkg -l linux-image* | grep ^i
> $ sudo apt-get remove ${package name from above}
>
> You just want to be sure to leave your current running kernel and the
> next youngest version (IMO), and the rest can be removed to free up
> space in /boot.
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Re: [PLUG] Other options besides VNC (or RDP)

[Chuck Hast]

I use a Microtik router, but I have moved the DHCP and DNS  to an RPi 3. It
works well. I am on Hughesnet which totally sucks, if you get stuck on it
turn
off the stinking "web accelerator" it is really a proxy and uses their DNS
which
could not find the address at times if it was at the front door. As soon as
I get
a good job, we are going to move to somewhere that we can get proper net-
work access.

Like I said earlier I use VNC to get into an RPi that I run Chip on, so I
can do
changes to my HT. I carry a little "mobile router" with me. I turn it on
and let the
tablet and RPi start talking, then I set up a VNC to the RPi program my
radio
and get out or leave it there and play around with things.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Roderick Anderson <raander...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thnaks for the insight Chuck.
>
> My first plan was to use VNC but I did want to check other options.
>
> Reading this I realized a router in the mix might be better than running
> a DHCP server on the RPi.  Which router do you use?
> With a quick search it looks like the TP-Link N150 or the newer N300
> would be good choices.
>
>
> Rod
> --
> On 02/18/2017 04:37 PM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > I guess I am being a bit dense here, but I do not see a reason not to use
> > VNC
> > for controlling a rig under RPi control. I used to get into my RPi's all
> > the time
> > from some variant of VNC on a phone/tablet/laptop/desktop choose your OS
> > poison... I use (been a while) Chirp on a RPi to control a Icom
> handheld, I
> > run
> > it headless and use a tablet to VNC into the thing and program the
> radio. I
> > just
> > turn on the RPi, as soon as I see the network ligth start flashing in a
> > certain way
> > I know it is talking to my little ittybitty pocket router. I pull up the
> > tablet ping it, if
> > it pings, I VNC into it and fire up Chirp then mod the radio shut it down
> > and I am
> > done.  I think that is about the only thing I use VNC for, the rest of it
> > is all term-
> > inal sessions or I have a UI on the screen in front of me.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Roderick Anderson <raander...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and ideas.
> >>
> >> I'll be looking into them.
> >>
> >> To expand on the why:
> >>
> >> I am looking at a Raspberry Pi running headless to connect to my Yaesu
> >> FT-857D and Signalink USB.  Then use a phone, tablet or laptop as the
> >> terminal.  This way I don't have to dedicate my netbook, laptop, tablet
> >> or phone.  There would also be the option to connect a display, keyboard
> >> and mouse or some combination of them to the Pi.
> >>
> >> Again thanks for the replies.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rod
> >> --
> >> On 02/17/2017 05:16 PM, Roderick Anderson wrote:
> >>> I'm looking for any other options to remote into a graphical desktop
> >>> besides VNC or RDP.
> >>>
> >>> I'd like a client that runs on Linux and Android with MAC and Windows a
> >>> bonus.  Server should run on Linux with Android, MAC and Windows as
> >>> another bonus.
> >>>
> >>> I remember coming across something, while searching for something
> >>> compeletely different, but the name now eludes me.  Must be a case of
> >>> CRS. :-(
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TIA,
> >>> Rod
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Re: [PLUG] Other options besides VNC (or RDP)

[Chuck Hast]

I guess I am being a bit dense here, but I do not see a reason not to use
VNC
for controlling a rig under RPi control. I used to get into my RPi's all
the time
from some variant of VNC on a phone/tablet/laptop/desktop choose your OS
poison... I use (been a while) Chirp on a RPi to control a Icom handheld, I
run
it headless and use a tablet to VNC into the thing and program the radio. I
just
turn on the RPi, as soon as I see the network ligth start flashing in a
certain way
I know it is talking to my little ittybitty pocket router. I pull up the
tablet ping it, if
it pings, I VNC into it and fire up Chirp then mod the radio shut it down
and I am
done.  I think that is about the only thing I use VNC for, the rest of it
is all term-
inal sessions or I have a UI on the screen in front of me.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Roderick Anderson <raander...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and ideas.
>
> I'll be looking into them.
>
> To expand on the why:
>
> I am looking at a Raspberry Pi running headless to connect to my Yaesu
> FT-857D and Signalink USB.  Then use a phone, tablet or laptop as the
> terminal.  This way I don't have to dedicate my netbook, laptop, tablet
> or phone.  There would also be the option to connect a display, keyboard
> and mouse or some combination of them to the Pi.
>
> Again thanks for the replies.
>
>
> Rod
> --
> On 02/17/2017 05:16 PM, Roderick Anderson wrote:
> > I'm looking for any other options to remote into a graphical desktop
> > besides VNC or RDP.
> >
> > I'd like a client that runs on Linux and Android with MAC and Windows a
> > bonus.  Server should run on Linux with Android, MAC and Windows as
> > another bonus.
> >
> > I remember coming across something, while searching for something
> > compeletely different, but the name now eludes me.  Must be a case of
> > CRS. :-(
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> > Rod
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Re: [PLUG] Free UPS

[Chuck Hast]

Naaa, I will find a UPS somewhere and put them to work. I also use them as
backup batteries in my van.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017, John Meissen wrote:
>
> > All UPS devices eventually need to have the batteries replaced. Batteries
> > will probably be readily available online or at stores like Batteries
> > Plus.
> >
> > It would probably be a good investment for someone. If I didn't already
> > have all I need I would probably be grabbing it. :-)
>
>I missed seeing the original message. If it's available I'll take it.
>
>I've replaced the batteries in my APC 1400 twice; I buy them through NW
> Battery Supply on Belmont and 37th Ave.
>
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