Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA and others... I just realized yesterday that Logitech is dumping their entire Squeezebox line. My whole house has several custom clients that are based on the latest SoftSqueeze.jar (integrates into my Media Center software). I am curious how long will my clients continue to work for? Are there any opensource backends which could be compatible with my Softsqueeze.jar based app? It's unconscionable for me to image Logitech just dumping such a great technology. mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
This is great! :) I was so bummed out until I saw both of your responses. So, potentially we can have 3rd party plugins for SiriusXM , Slacker and Pandora. I vaguely remember there's already a 3rd party plugin for SiriusXM. As long as the 3rd party plugins are offered for SiriusXM; and, at least one or two more 3rd party radio provider plugins, I'll be set for for a while (until I can ultimately find a technology that can completely replace everything I have currently). Do any of you have a list of working 3rd party radio plugins? PS: Would I still be able to keep my local FM radio stations I listen to via Squeezebox clients? Thanks so much for your information! mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] List of 3rd party plugins to replace Squeezebox.com-dependent music services
I just read that LMS and respective Squeezebox client devices will continue to work as long as the plugins used are not dependent on Squeezebox.com servers. I'm curious if anyone can provide a list 3rd party plugins for music services. I've been told there is a Spotify 3rd party plugin. I also know of the NotSoSirius plugin. I'm curious if there's any news about any 3rd party Slacker and Pandora plugins as well. Hopefully, there may be some developers who want their own setups to continue to work; so, they would provide a plugin for us to use. I would gladly donate generously for developers who want to help. mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97761 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Hi BPA, I just upgraded to Logitech Media Server 7.7. I am getting 502 Bad Gateway when I try to play any music station. Is this issue related to the server or softsqueeze. Maybe I screwed up something on my setup? Thanks, as always! MKANET -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Thank BPA. Do you know if there were any significant changes in functionality in Server version 7.7 which may affect Softsqueeze (good or bad)? -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Yeah, I just recently downloaded and installed the mp3 plugin from that same URL. BPA can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the whole reason why the mp3 plugin was never included as part of the package is because it belongs to Oracle (not public domain). Havin_it;664537 Wrote: Hi, I don't know how alive this thread or BPA's work are at this stage, but I have a point to add and a question to raise, if I may. Both are related to the Java MP3 Plugin. Point: The most recently-posted link above for the plugin now goes to an Oracle page for a larger bundle of multimedia-stuff. I found a link for the MP3 plugin alone, at http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-java-client-419417.html#javamp3-1_0-oth-JPR Question: Is there any way the MP3 plugin can be included into the Softsqueeze applet/jnlp when deployed from one's own server, instead of the client having to download and add it to their Java install? Note I appreciate the licensing issues, but I'm only talking about individuals being able to include it by themselves for their own use. (As long as only I use the applet, I believe I'm still honouring the license for the plugin, no?) I realise the plugin is only available compiled, but can it somehow be supplied along with the main Softsqueeze applet, or does it have to be properly installed in the client's JRE? -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Wow. Sorry to hear that. I figured out the problem. For older clients, there is a 3rd party Spotify Premium. It works perfectly. I really appreciate your support for Softsqueeze. It's really the only way I can listen to music on all my TV extenders. bpa;641036 Wrote: Sorry - Ireland is still a soverign country and was not bought by US in recent bailout. No music services (e.g. Pandora, Spotify, Napster) are available in Ireland as the streaming companies don't want to spend money negotiating separate deals under Irish copyright law for the v. small number of Irish users -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Okay BPA, you can't say you dont have access to music services anymore because of your geographical location :) You have access to the best music service in the world! I just signed up for Spotify premium and added the plugin to Squeezebox Server. However, when I try to play anything on Spotify, I get the below error message. What do I need to change in Squeezebox to get it to work? Im using Squeezebox Version: 7.5.4 - r32171 I checked my Ogg Vorbis File Types: AIFF: sox FLAC: sox MP3: sox/lame Ogg Vorbis: Native [image: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/mkanet/Screenshot-71.jpg] Thanks in advance! I can't wait to get this to work with premium quality audio. MKANET -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: (not so) Sirius Plugin
I'm still a very happy camper with this plugin. I use it every morning for Howard Stern and the evenings when I get home for high quality radio. Currently, this is the only option for me since the native SBS Sirius plugin gives me the good old You are not authorized.. error http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17157 after streaming for a minute or so. Rob, I can't thank you enough! -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71636 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Is there anyone here at all that would be kind enough to test native sirius plugin? Use a public proxy from a geo-location that doesnt have restrictions if you have to ...just for temporary development purposes. PLEASE! I have a feeling it might be related to data being duplicated or something like that. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Im so glad to see other talented people interested in updating Softsqueeze. Is it possible to get an installable executable and patch with all the latest changes from everyone into a 3.9b2 or 4.0b version? I'm no expert, but it seems to makes sense to have some kind of version control where each change gets a respective high version number. Although, for my purposes, I only need the latest softsqueeze.jar file. I'm also curious to know if any of these changes may fix the Sirius Radio plugin error. There seems to be something different in softsqueeze client which may contribute to this error: You are not authorized Sirius plugin error message. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71255 Thanks for all your support guys! -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: (not so) Sirius Plugin
It works great! Thanks a million. Crossing my fingers Sirius isn't motivated to make changes for a while. flemming;611195 Wrote: Hey Now! I just updated the plugin to version 1.1 which should temporarily fix the problem for everyone. Just how temporary the fix is remains to be seen, but I'll take what I can get. These changes do not use the new flash based player in any way. My work on that is still in the same spot and subject to the same limitations. I'll continue to work on that, but in the meantime this should hopefully help people to get their fix. Let me know if you have any problems. http://notsosirius-squeezecenter.googlecode.com/ Robert -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71636 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: (not so) Sirius Plugin
Hi Robert, I'm a paid Sirius subscriber. There are people like me who can't use the native SBS sirius plugin due to the dreaded, You are not authorized... error message. I get that error message after listening to sirius for approximately a few seconds to a few minutes, then the music stream stops. I reported this bug to bugzilla over a year ago, but it was never fixed. A fellow NoSoSirius who had the same problem told me to use your plugin. And, wala... you plugin worked flawlessly... until the sirius web player was changed. Is it easier to make a beta plugin for NoSoSirius for people who have full subscription? If so, maybe you can release a beta limited to that until you have more time to get it to work for people who have low bandwidth sirius only. Hopefully, you can have something for us in the near future; as there are many of us who have no way to play sirius at all without getting the You are not authorized.. error mssage. I know that web scraping is not a simple task; and can be very time consuming. Please let us know if you need anyone to test for you. Keep up the great work! Michael -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71636 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: (not so) Sirius Plugin
I realize you're just as anxious as everyone here to get this going. But, I have to say, it really doesnt make any sense to unnecessarily destroy the original quality of the high quality mp3 stream with re-encoding when it doesnt need to be; especially, when it's less complex to just grab the mp3 stream in it's native format. From what Robert said, it's going to take some time to think of the best solution possible for low bandwidth. You wouldnt want him to rush into something that may not be ideal. dursman;611180 Wrote: Hey man speak for yourself. lol. Those of us with so called low bandwidth access need it too ;) (Funny under my XM subscription I wasn't relegated to this class -- only since this Sirius merger). Thanks Robert for all of your efforts, they are certainly appreciated. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71636 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA, I'm pretty sure that you can test this easily.. using a recent version of Squeezebox Server/squeezenetwork.com. You have the ability to add local FM radio station in your area as favorites. Unfortunately, Now Playing displays information that doesnt look like was intended to be seen for these types of favorites (see below screenshots). Is there anyway to include logic to filter out the information that wasn't intended to be displayed? I dont know if this is a bug that only affects legacy Slim protocol based clients or newer clients as well. Maybe you already know about this bug? If this is a Squeezenetwork/Squeezebox Server bug... I'm really worried that the developers wont put a high priority on fixing this since it's on older clients. [image: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/mkanet/Screenshot-1325.jpg] [image: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/mkanet/Screenshot-1324-2.jpg] [image: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/mkanet/Screenshot-1326.jpg] Thanks for all your support! MKANET -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Hi BPA, thanks for the quick response. It's builtin to SB. I didnt have to add a plugin or configure in any way (at least I dont remember doing that). You might see support for this on your account in Squeezenetwork.com. Its surprising that so many great features/radio networks are exclusive to USA only. I thought there was a good chance your local radio stations would be be supported in Ireland. It would be nice to know how these channels were added. I might as in another forum thread how they were added. Thanks for your information anyway. bpa;601194 Wrote: Softsqueeze is a thin client - the player is sent a graphics bit map and it is displayed. The player does not generate any text except the setup ones and it doesn't generate displays from text strings or URL. So the content of the display comes from SBS. This looks like info that was part of an URL and so it is probably the associated plugin that needs to be fixed. I don't know what this FM station you are talking about but then again a lot of plugins don't show up for me as they are not available in Ireland. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
I don't know I just see a bunch of local radio stations that populated at the bottom of my favorites list. I just asked on this forum how to add this. Hopefully someone will know.bpa;601199 Wrote: What is the menu called ? Is it under Internet Radio or My Apps or somewhere else ? -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA, as you might know, Android based mobile devices are the biggest/fastest selling phones currently (beating iphone, blackberry, nokia, etc). You would be like a god if you could compile Softsqueeze for the current Android OS (Froyo 2.2) Java. I'm guessing there would only minor changes you need to do before compiling to make it work.. such as outputing to the android sound device for sound. There's a good chance that pretty much all Android phone owners on this forum would use Softsqueeze for Android. If you were to make the Android version, I'm pretty sure it would be much more popular than even the one used in this thread. I am pretty sure that you also have the right to distribute it and sell it on Google Market (Android app store). I would definitely buy it. $4.95 sounds like a reasonable price for what it does. Would you please think about it; considering all the people who you would make happy on this forum? This seems like a perfect opportunity since, Squeezeplay can't be ported to other platforms. What are you thoughts? Thanks, MKA -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Thanks for the candid responses. I didnt really expect squeezecommander to support audio anytime soon; which is why I asked. But it looks like audio support may be closed than I originally thought. I just bought squeezecommander for my android phone for 2.99 pounds. Hopefully, there will be an update soon for audio. Until then, the only way I can do this is to RDP into my server with my Android phone and use Softsqueeze. bpa;587247 Wrote: Yes you are guessing - from a quick glance I think that not only the audio but also the user interface libraries are not supported by Android - so those would require new code as well as porting over the other 3rd parties libraries (about 6 in total) which may or may not use APIs which are unsupported by Android. I've used that argument before getting development budgets approved - then reality happens. Optimism should never be used when hard numbers can be found. Besides you are ignoring the current Andoid offerings for squeezbox which are likely to have audio support soon as well as other growing music alternatives. I think Richard Titmuss and the authors of the 3rd party libraries would need to be consulted first. Strangely it would be cheaper for me to give it away for free than to charge for it as the additional income would trigger some taxes and I reckon the sales would not cover the accountants costs, the taxes payable and the development effort. Furthermore once people pay for something they demand support 24x7. So for me it is not worth the hassle. I may be somewhat negative but it is a dull grey day, pouring rain with hurricane-like weather due and a swingeing govt. budget in 3 weeks as the whole economy tanks. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
HI BPA, thanks for your quick reply back. Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with timing at all; nor disabling filetype. No matter what, I am getting the below error message. I am 100% certain I have entered the correct user name and password; as, thats the same credentials I use for my standalone Napster software. [image: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/mkanet/Screenshot-1131.jpg] Whatever it is, it doesnt sound like a Squeezebox client issue. But, it doesnt make sense that the developers would blatantly leave it broken for a half a year. I am able to navigate through all parts of the napster areas. Its just when I push play, immediately I get that invalid credentials message or Stopped: Unable to retrieve track for channel.. Needles to say, I dont have an issues with any other services at all. Any ideas would really be appreciated. I am actually paying for Napster, so it would be in my best interest to get this working since I only use SBS/softsqueeze. Thanks for anything else you an suggest. *sigh* -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
For several although the Napster plugin has been included in the latest SBS, there is a small issue related to the fact that it uses WMA based files. I get all sort of messages from my players saying Connect timed out: Bada file descriptor, etc. I went under file types under WMA and disabled some items. Doing this, did a t least seem to help reduce the errors; which leds me to believe this has something to do with what happened with Sirius Radio a while back. You dont even need to load a client, just try any of the latest squeezebox servers and navigate with napster. You might know exactly what I need to change for the napster:// protocol is recognized once again. Im not sure if this is related to the audio format or the fact that I need to manually re-add the napster:// protocol back for SBS to know what website to go to. I dont think this is client specific, maybe I changed a setting by accident? Anyway BP, being the good guy you are, I would really appreciate a quick help from you. [image: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/mkanet/nap1.jpg] [image: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/mkanet/nap2.jpg] Sincerely, Michael -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Hi BPA, I can understand that your motivation to fix benign errors like the one below isn't the top of your todo list. :) However, if its just a typo, maybe you could fix it in your next public build. That error seems to happen on Windows and Linux using any recent Squeezebox server when you click on the plugins tab and select settings for this plugin. Speaking of trivial things, I remember seeing a Softsqueeze 3.9b2 somewhere, but I think that must have been a mistake since the latest version of the plugin I could download is 3.9b1 There are a couple of lingering issues which arent so trivial; but, I'm guessing they are pretty difficult to fix or you probably would have fixed them by now. Issue #1 is actually a relatively high priority since some of us still use Softsqueeze to play local music. Issue #1: For local media, the first second or so of a song is cut off. IIRC, this doesnt happen on classic squeezebox hardware clients; so, it can't be a SBS limitation. Issue #2: For whatever reason.. the cute little Softsqueeze Java applet that comes with Softsqueeze broke at some point in the recent past (It used to work with Softsqueeze 3.6 and I think even in 3.7). IIRC, you mentioned in the past that you've never even heard of it before. The app looks like its about to finish loading into memory, but gets stuck right before showing the interface. Here's the URL if you want to try it: http://127.0.0.1:9000/plugins/softsqueeze/html/applet.html Anyway we all can't thank you enough BPA for keeping Softsqueeze alive and working nicely. -M bpa;568377 Wrote: No error - there are no settings. It is an typo in the install.xml which tells SBS there is a settings page. Softsqueeze is the old Slimndevices supported version which was removed around 7.3 or 7.4. Community Softsqueeze is used to identify as a plugin version. What is the issue ? If Softsqueeze is not playing - it is good to give system details such as - SBS version ? - OS version ? - Java version ? Don't forget that Softsqueeze has no inbuilt decoders for AAC or WMA so if you are trying to play those formats you will need to install the relevant plugins. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
I used to be able to access a java applet of slimplayer via a web browser by pointing to: http://localhost:9000/html/softsqueeze/applet.html However, with the newer Squeezebox, that link doesnt work. I just get a blank screen. I already enabled the Slimplayer 3.9b2 plugin... and, it shows up under active plugins/CommunitySoftSqueeze (V.39b2). Settings buttons also doesnt work and gives an error. How can I get it to work? I really need this to work since my Andriod based mobile doesnt have any kind of Squeezebox client whatsoever; however, does support java. Thanks in advance for the quick response! Michael -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Hi BPA, thanks for the quick reply back. The applet allows you to have a softsqueeze client embedded in the web browser. This is the only way I know to get a Squeezebox client from my Android based mobile phone. I'm actually very surprised I couldnt find a single Squeezebox client for the Android OS; not even in alpha/beta stage. Anyway, When I enter the URL below, i get the following error: Failed to get Softsqueeze Libraries. Where is the actual (default) location on a Windows file system? I'm guessing I need to manually copy the jars and other related files to the location? I've already spent a couple of hours trying to figure out where the files go; and,if they are even copied after I enable/download the Softsqueeze plugin through the server settings. bpa;553282 Wrote: This is the URL which launches the applet code although I think the applet.html needs modifying to work with change Softsqueeze.jar http://localhost:9000/plugins/softsqueeze/html/applet.html What is this applet supposed to do ? I see no reference to it so I assumed it was a remnant. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Hi BPA, you might have missed that I already did that. I didnt get any errors when installing. I'm not sure which version of java is on Android, but it's the only hope I have right now that it might work. http://mka.net/Screenshot-BPA.jpg bpa;553292 Wrote: Why don't you let SBS WebUI install Softsqueeze for you ? Doesn't Android have a special version of Java and not standard ? The Softsqueeze.jar file already has all the necessary jar files for standard Java. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
PS: I just copied the files from the Softsqueeze 3.9b2 zip file to the below folder: C:\Program Files\Squeezebox\server\HTML\EN\html\softsqueeze Now, the client loads up, but cant see the local server: http://mka.net/Screenshot-BPA-2.jpg mkanet;553294 Wrote: Hi BPA, you might have missed that I already did that. I didnt get any errors when installing. I'm not sure which version of java is on Android, but it's the only hope I have right now that it might work. http://mka.net/Screenshot-BPA.jpg -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA, I just wanted to say between my wife and I, we use Softsqueeze.jar 3.9beta very heavily (at least twice a day between the two of us). I hope you dont think that people aren't using softsqueeze just because they aren't posting here. We are mostly happy campers; hence, not posting here. It would be nice though to get those remaining bugs fixed... The only remaining bug that affects me is when playing back local media, the first couple of seconds always get cut off. Im not sure what other bugs there are. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Pretty funny. I'll have remember the lmgtfy.com URL. You cant possibly make it any clearer how to use google search and what to type. :) Pokersut;523290 Wrote: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Java+MP3+pluginl=1 :-D Remember to select the Other platform. Then extract the files to the lib/ext directory under Java. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Are you able to even get to the interface so you can go into the preferences and change the sound card driver you want to use? If yes, then change the sound card to something else that works. If no, (which is what I'm guessing is what's happening) you may have to go into the registry and manually change the sound card (softsqueeze mixer) used. The name in quotes will be the same name you see for your audio devices under control panel; except you need a / symbol preceeding each work such as: audio.mixer=/Speakers (/Realtek /High /Definition /Audio) audio.mixer=/Speakers (/Creative /S/B /X-/Fi) audio.mixer=/Speakers (/Bluetooth /Stereo /Audio) audio.mixer=/Primary /Sound /Driver Located under here: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JavaSoft\Prefs\org\titmuss\softsqueeze] I hope this helps a little. -MKANET brownru;517839 Wrote: I installed the Softsqueeze plugin as mentioned through the WebUI. When SoftSqueeze starts, I am getting an error message stating, Error starting Softsqueeze:mixer not supported:null, then javax.sound.sampled.AudioSystem.getMixer(Unknown Source) org.titmuss.softsqueeze.audio.AudioMixer.getDefaultJavaSoundMixer(AudioMixer.java:630) Can someone help me sort this out? I am installing this on a fresh install of Windows 7 Home Premium and can't get this working! Thank you in advance. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
This is a long shot, because I dont know the real name of your sound card that your system sees it at... and Im going to take your word for it that what you said (each character counts!!) is correct. First... close softsqueeze... do NOT have it in memory. Second, close regedit if its still open in memory. Then... Download the attachment in this post to your desktop, extract the reg file in it. Double-click it, acknowledge that you want it to be added to your PC. Then go back to the same registry location.. and confirm that this entry is now there and that before it wasnt... then try opening Softsqueeze again.. see if you can get into the preferences without errors. brownru;517896 Wrote: No, I cannot get the Softsqueeze started. I just get the error message. I went the registry key you noted and there is no entry for softsqueeze mixer. I assume I need to create a key for this? If so, what type of entry am I adding? (key, string, DWORD, etc.) I am using SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio. I do not see a list in my control panel for sound that matches what you are describing. Is there another way to get to this? I am using Windows 7 Home Premium. Also, in your example, you had 4 entries listed. Are all of these to be listed in the registry key or just the one that I want to use? IE, am I adding each line to the same registry key separated by a semicolon or only the one I want to use? I do appreciate your help as this is driving me crazy! +---+ |Filename: SoundMAX.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9284| +---+ -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Youre welcome. I'm actually a little surprise we got it to work in the first try! Cool! brownru;517917 Wrote: Works flawlessly now! THANK YOU, thank you, thank you! -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA, I might be wrong, but it looks like the latest public softsqueeze.jar that was released updates the windows registry with an old deviceid value of 3. Unless the below SlimProtoTCPProtocol Wikipedia URL is wrong (or my understanding of it), when softsqueeze.jar gets loaded into memory, it needs to update deviceid to value 6 since we're using softsqueeze3 *Current:* [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JavaSoft\Prefs\org\titmuss\softsqueeze] deviceid=3 *Shouldn't it be???:* [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JavaSoft\Prefs\org\titmuss\softsqueeze] deviceid=6 [image: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/mkanet/Screenshot-1033.jpg] -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Backend=mysqueezebox.com or whatever it was called at the time SqueezeCenter 7.2.1 was releaesd. I dont think the is related to any changes done on my server. All settings have been the same, changing the available settings didnt make any difference back then; I never got that error. This issue only happens when the backend mysqueezebox.com somehow reports more than one login of the same service handled by mysqueezebox.com. You are on the right track by asking me to look at things that affect the manipulation of TCP/IP. There is s a reason why some of these specs were carefully selected by Microsoft. I will figure it out and let you know. If anyone can figure out whats happened, it's me... since Im, the one who madethe changes and know exactly what I changed and when. However. the weird thing is my OS, service pack and tweaks that I used did not adversely affect playack of my sotsqueeze clients on the server. In fact, the server version (whether Slimsever, Squeezecenter, Squeezebox) never really made a different what I did. Sirius Radio plugin back in the old days which didnt rely on the logitech backend, worked peferfectly. I'll let you know as soon as I understand moreabout whats happening on my server during these hickups which dont happen too often. Thanks for your help! I hope my information might help someone else in the future if/when I come up with a solution. PS; I have 12 TV tuners. 6 of them are network encoder based, 2 of them are satellite DVB based. I will look into that too. bpa;515428 Wrote: I don't understand what you are referring to by respective backend. As I see it Squeezecenter is a single program which uses MySQL as a database backend, various players and browsers are its frontend. I don't know what you consider to be the backend which is separate from Squeezecenter.. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
I will definitely get down to the bottom of this issue once in for all! Thanks for all your helpful information. bpa;515622 Wrote: Have you enabled logging for the problematic service such as setting plugin.slacker to DEBUG. Also when proxied streaming is enabled for a player, streaming will be remote - so enable logging on player.streaming.remote to INFO (DEBUG might be too much). This will show if any errors are being picked up. In the Slacker plugin code there is code to handle error and reinitialisation of Slacker streams. If your hiccough is associated with some of these events - it could point the way to a solution. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA, for whatever it's worth, I want to thank you for genuinely caring about softsqueeze. There are more people than you could ever imagine that use it... not the way you imagine though. Many of us use your softsqueze.jar and use our own GUI frontend. Softsqueeze.jar doesnt know the difference.. just depending on it's registry settings. There is an issue I have spent hours on trying to get to the bottom of (related to my previous questions). I ONLY use your latest softsqueeze.jar on multiple clients (some with the traditional old fashioned interface, some with the very advanced UI (much nicer than even squeezeplay). I dont use any other version of the jar file. As you know, there are some information that softsqueeze.jarmysqyeezebox.com do not pass between eachother. The most obvious is mysqueezebox.com doesnt display which client is active; even if music is being proxied from the music service to the client. Also, favorites aren not synched. Interestingly, some things are updated. There is this very unusual bug related to the mysqueezebox.com backend which is driving me nuts; which maybe you might know what's going on... even if its a wild guess with no way to fix it. Have you see this post on the forum? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71255 It seems that there are people (besides me) who are complaining that mysqueezebox.com (after Squeezecenter 7.3 was introduced) would unexpectedly give the errors You are not authorized (for Sirius Radio) and You are logged in in another location (for Slacker). When there are NOT other players signed on using the same account. I am very sure this is caused by mysqueezebox.com no managing it's players properly. It leaves ghost/stray audio connections lingering around to the Internet Music Service provider; even though the player has obviously stopped it's audio connection. This is just a guess (and I might be completely wrong), but I think that softsqueze.jar sometime resets it's audio stream due to some kind of hickup which causes mysqyeezebox.com to think there are now two simultaneous logins; hence, telling the music provider there are two logins. If you have a better guess, please let me know. If you think my guess could be a valid possibility, what precautions can I take to prevent these error messages. Here is a ubBIG HINT/b/u, this issue seems to only occur during local playback (softsqueeze.jar) on the same machine as the squeezebox server. It doesnt make a difference if I use proxied or direct connection. I have increased the network buffer to 5 seconds and timeout to 10 seconds. Maybe, I should increase the buffer even more? If there's a way to add code to softsqueeze.jar to communicate player status and possibly other items to mysqueeebox server; hence eventually to mysqueezebox.com, this might increase reliability under certain circumstances; and, at the same time keep softsqueeze.jar fully featured. Communicating status at the very least might help a great deal. Maybe there are technological limitations that are just not feasible. However, I thought I would at least mention this in case some of these ideas might be possible by someone smart like you. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
This is very helpful advice. Yes, I have a feeling this issue I'm seeing is related to a specific machine; which happens to be my squeezebox server as well. I did install a TCP/IP hack to increase the limit of TCPIIP connections since I use this machine for several different TCP/IP related services. However,that should help things, but make things worse. Ever since I added secondary accounts to slacker and sirius radio on mysqueezebox.com, I noticed the problem happens much less frequeently (it used to be sometimes every 5 minutes.. now its every 45 minutes - 1 hour)...even longer if I dont do anything TCP/IP related. I guess I could try to increase the buffer to a very high value; including the timeout to see what kind of affect it has. The condition I'm pointing out is definitely not that bad; and in fact, works great. However, I have so many internet services running on this machine, you probably wouldnt believe it... I have 12 TV tuners on this machine serving through the internet, ASP.net based apps, FTP, and many other TCP/IP based services. The good news is I inreased the reliabilty considerably by adding 2 accounts (one for each client). I dont know why that helped, but there's not question that it did. I will also take a closer look at tcp/ip based activity using my favorite utility TCPView; which works okay. Thank you for your support for this product with minor enhancements. I dont expect any major changes. As long as logitech doesnt abandon their customers who bought the classic squeezebox hardware devices, I think us softsqueeze users will be fine. bpa;515339 Wrote: As I said before I cannot test these services as they are not available to me. Softsqueeze is not my code - I just do some basic maintenance on it to keep it ticking over until SqueezePlay is ready (which is taking longer than expected). Changing Softsqueeze to add some additional status would probably require changes in SBS which I cannot do so it is unlikely. Spoftsqueeze is a strange beast, within SBS it is subclassed of a Transporter model as it was used to test new products graphics but its audio/network is not quite an SB2 so it has a minimal implementation of the slimproto protocol especially since changes in 7.3. Your best bet would be to isolate the problem. I think you need to record sessions (probably on both sides of local SBS) using something like wireshark (was Ethereal). Note time when recording started and the time when the problem occur - examine the recording forensically at the problem timepoint and go backwards. I've done this a number of times tracking rare protocol events which required recordings of many hours - it is tedious but that is what it will require. From your description, I think the problem could be associated with a TCP reset which is used to clear half-open TCP connection but often still ends with a half open connection but stuck. Applications need to look for the ECONNRESET error but often with don't block on read on a TCP socket - the Reset error code is overlooked as code assumes there is no data to read. I think there could be issues handling ECONNRESET in a proxy configuration (e.g. should a RESET be propagated or absorbed or link closed by the proxy). To get started, I suggest looking at the Reset count in the TCP connection statistics (e.g. netstat -s) on both sides of the SBS and from both ends (i.e. monitor 4 sets of counts). The Reset count usually only increment at beginning and end of connections. See if Reset count is increment around the time you have a hiccough in your audio. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Okay BPA I have a feeling this might be easier than you thought... below, are the two utilities I used to manipulate default Vista TCP/IP behavior. I would like to know what's safe and what's not. The feature I use most is disabling the ridiculously low default limit of TCP/IP connections on my server. So which tweaks can I keep and which one seems like might be the reason I'm having these issues? http://mka.net/SG_Vista_TcpIp_patch.rar (most popular tcp/ip Vista performance tweak) http://mka.net/Half-open_limit_fix_3.1.rar (most popular Vista connection limit remover) ---I really use this! bpa;515352 Wrote: One scenario for TCP Reset happens with media players which don't ack TCP packets until they have been processed ready to play. If you have large no. of TCP buffers then many packets will have been received but not acked - if you are using a high compressions (e.g. slow speed mP3) or big window size (e.g. Satellite link) then the time taken to play the internal buffer is longer than the TCP timeout on unacked packets. The problem with TCP connection reset usually happens when users increase the number of buffers and/or increase TCP WIndows size (typically on satellite connections) to optimise the throughput. This is fine for ftp or HTTP - disaster for media. To see if this is your problem you need to check how many packets are unacked when you pause a stream and if you keep stream paused for over 3 minutes (typical TCP timeout) does it reset. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
http://half-open.com/ explains it in a very short and precise description (better than what I can say; which isn't registry based. It just replaces the tcpip.sys file. The other registry based tweaks contain an exact copy of the vista defaults (I even double checked before applying them; hence, it has an option to put the default registry settings back. I just thought Id mentioned these two tweaks in case something stood out to you very obviously (after taking a quick look at what they do). They are two of the most popular TCP/IP mods which many people use... which didnt affect me when I used squeezecenter 7.2.1 and earlier (with respective backend). Maybe just a couple of minutes of your time might be all it takes to see soemthing that looks very bad. If nothing looks obvious, no worries. I didnt think it would hurt to ask. bpa;515358 Wrote: You really need to put some effort into determining the problem rather than tweaking parameters. The perf tweak looks most likely to start the TCP problems due to unacked packets if that is the prblem you are having. A problem with these tweaks - the method to undo the changes is often flawed and unless you have your initial registry settings you cannot be sure that things have been reset. With XP I found some parameters behaved different if they were deleted compared to their default value. I don't know what the Half-open_limit_fix_3.1.rar does since it is a .exe and it needs a before and after system snapshot to see what is changed. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA:Thanks for the warning. Do you know how long the below issue has been around? What change caused this (in softsqueeze or the logitech backend servers? I've used multiple version of Softsqueeze.jar for many years now (same version); however, different MAC addresses and different Windows user accounts (even when on the same PC. I'm curious what specific issues you were refering to so I can be careful not to do that. Thanks again for the warning! bpa;412231 Wrote: Do not run two Softsqueeze simultaneously (possibly only if different versions) - it is not pretty and upsets SC badly. You may need to restart SC afterwards to get stability. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA or anyone, could you please explain how uPnP affects softsqueeze.jar clients. I noticed that after I disabled this feature, my softsqueeze clients stopped working. Also, I was wondering if this feature has anything to do with You are logged into another device error. I'm not sure how uPnP client feature works under Squeezebox Server/Advanced/Network... but I know for sure it does directly affect my softsqueeze based clients. It would be great to understand what advantages/disadvantages the uPnp feature has for softsqueeze.jar and what other features to enable/disable both on the softsqueeze client/SqueezeBox Server if people want to Use uPnP client feature. All I know is my clients wont work anymore with this feature disabled. PS: I have the builtin Squeezebox 7.4.2 Softsqueeze plugin on enabled. I'm not sure if this is even needed for softsqueeze.jar 3.9 clients. Maybe, I should remove this plugin? -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
I have several uPNP software (not related to Squeezebox/Softsqueeze) running on the same machine (ie hulu based server/client, trillian, etc); UPNP is enable on all devices (server and clients); including my router. Maybe I didnt understand you right, but are you saying that Squeezebox/Softsqueeze use port 9000 via UPNP to communicate? I'm guessing you didnt mean all upnp devices under the sun use port 9000. :) I know that in the past, I have always used port 9000 for SqueezeServer, SqueezeCenter, SqueezeBox to talk to Softsqueeze using the traditional method to communicate along with port 3483. Please correct me if I'm wrong (or help clarify), when UPNP on Squeezebox is enabled... both squeezebox/softsqueeze are smart enough to switch from using a proprietary, explicitly defined ports 9000/3483 and instead, let UPNP to define port 9000 (telling the softsqueeze.jar based clients to use port 9000 via UPNP)? Is port 3483 no longer needed when using UPNP; or, does that still required and proprietary/explicitly defined for the squeeze protocol? Thanks! bpa;511597 Wrote: uPNP is just a protocol which by default uses port 9000. Itis used by many devices including routers etc. One application is media streaming. Softsqueeze will use its protocol on port 9000 by default. I don't know where you are disabling uPNP - router, PC, a NAS client - but it is possible that disabling uPNP also disables port 9000 or it enabled a dummy client on port 9000 to refuse connections. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
In finally figured out why I was getting all those weird Internet audio issues with duplicate logins in other places. I had to enable uPNP on both my router and also the Windows based service. Everything works great for me; even on multiple clients. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
I can confirm that 3.9 works very well. Except, I still have an issue with sometimes Sirius Radio, Slacker will stop streaming audio and give the error that I'm logged in somewhere else. I have to press Play to start the audio stream again. This started happening after I upgraded to Squeezebox Server. I dont know if this is a reproducible issue or not. This seems to happen even when I have one player defined under in http://www.mysqueezebox.com. I probably wont get a response, but is there anyone here at all that uses softsqueeze for Internet Radio? I'm curious to know if anyone is having the issue I described above; and, if there's a way to fix that. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
I have to admit, BPA left this in a very good state. Everything still works even with the latest big upgrade to the server side. I was scared upgrading to Squeezebox Server would at least break something. I'm just hoping BPA will have the time to polish off the 3.9 release and make it a full certified release available on Sourceforge as a non-beta. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
It looks like the file was removed. It's possible that he's about to release a Softsqueeze 4.0 with new features? I did a search on google for softsqueeze 3.9 and softsqueeze 4.0, but didnt find anything except for this thread pointing to the the dead link. If I'm not mistaken, version 3.9 has some critical Internet related bug fixes thats not available in 3.8 (available on sourceforge). I am hoping that the issues I mentioned above are something simple that I can fix on my end. I have a feeling its because I have more than one client; and, its possible that I might have the same mac address for both clients. vw195;487002 Wrote: Hi BPA, I'm thinking that I can not download directly from your repository because my error is : [09-11-18 17:30:03.4136] Slim::Utils::PluginDownloader::_downloadError (217) unable to download SoftSqueeze from http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/repos/SoftSqueeze-v39b1.ZIP - 404 Not Found and your download file does not have the - in it. Is this intentional? Thanks -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Hi BPA, the reason, its been so quiet on this thread is because everyone has been very happy with all your fixes. However, there is a new problem which happens pretty frequently ever since I upgraded to SqueezeBox Server 7.4. Every 4-10 minutes or so, I keep getting the two below error messages in both Sirius or Slacker. I an curious what could cause this if there definitely isn't someone who actually logs in on another device using my accounts. In order to recover from it all I have to do is press Play again. However, it can get a bit annoying after a while. Is there anything I can try to avoid this? Is there anything that you can do to prevent this from happening or recover from it? Is there anything I can do specifically to see where it thinks I'm logging in from? Have you ever heard of these issues? You are not authorized=Sirius You are logged in in another location=Slacker This has happened on previous versions of the server, but it seems to happen more frequently on 7.4/ Thanks so much, MKANET -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA, I'm surprised you're not tempted to do what most technically inclined people do in non-US countries; at least for testing purposes... using US-based Internet proxy. Anyway, sorry to ask another Internet radio question; but do you have any idea why I sometimes get the below message while listening to Sirius Radio; and, if there's a way for you to add code to softsqueeze to quietly recover from the below bogus error message: STOPPED Stream stopped, you are no longer authorized to listen. I've been just shrugging it off by selecting to play the Sirius radio station again. It seems like its just a fake/benign error message; although, annoying. bpa;444264 Wrote: I can't help much on the various services such as Sirius, Pandora, Deezer etc. since I am not in a country where they are allowed/supported. For Softsqueeze the proxied settings seemed to work for most services. Your problem seems to be a standard facility using a hardware player - so my guess it is a setup issue so check all SBR functionality and see if anything else is broken such as Internet Radio, Pandora, Napster etc. If only Sirius is broken then concentrate on SN and Sirius credentials on SC and then Sirius credentials on SN - make sure they are all entered correctly and there is no mismatch. You could enable logging by setting WebUI Setting/Advanced/Logging/ plugin.sirius to DEBUG and then test Sirius use and then check server.log. I find that Windows implements some agressive caching and can fgeed Old data to SC even through files or URLs have changed. So I find before testing anything on Windows - I turn off Windows systems, reboot all network equipment (e.g. router,modem) and then start Windows. I believe Windows caching is to blame when users note that a broken system suddenly starts working the next day - the cached info expires after a long period of no use. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
I dont have a hardware player, but I will try it on SqueezePlay (I thought I'd ask in case you knew right away what could cause an error like that. I have seen this error before related to sirius radio when I used to use the old 3rd party sirius radio plugin. This error doesnt happen when using the sirius radio player from the sirius website. I searched the SC forum prior to posting here, and all I could find was an unanswered post about someone asking for help with the same problem (relatively recently).. however, he had a Duet hardware players and SC on MAC. bpa;444561 Wrote: No idea. Does it happen on the hardware players ? Is it coming from Sirius or from SC or from Sirius through SC ? -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Thanks for the update BPA. There is only one minor issue. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong? With Napster, if I navigate to the genre/radio station/song and push PLAY on softsqueeze, it looks like its about to play, but then it says, Invalid Credentials. I have already checked multiple times in my squeezenetwork account; and did confirm I'm using the correct username/password; in fact, if I enter the wrong username or password in squeezenetwork for Napster, it knows immnediately; and, doesnt save the account. So, even if I have the correct premium account saved in squeezenetwork, softsqueeze will still say invalid credentials. I haven't tried this with squeezeplay yet. That's my next test. As I said, this is a relatively minor issue; but, thought I'd mention it since you asked. Anyway, thanks for all your effort with softsqueeze while juggling all the other plugins!! -MKANET bpa;442536 Wrote: Is there any specific issue that concerns you ? My plan is that when 7.4 gets released - there should be a Softsqueeze release. At present I have the following 3 areas to look at * Headless operation - Softsqueeze fails to run headless if there is no X-server * possible sync. bug which seems to be prevalent when using non MP3 formats. * possible Pause/play issue. I get to do some work SoftSqueeze but have had to back to plugins / AlienBBC as there have been (and will be more) API changes in 7.4noweb-sqllite branch and BBC updates. Both of these issues require immediate attention as they break the plugins for users. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Sure. Thats a good idea. FYI, If I push PLAY twice, though for Napster using Softsqueeze.. it will play the song/station. The first time, it says Invalid Credentials. bpa;442572 Wrote: That sounds like an SC problem since all Sosftsqueeze does is pass the play keypress code and display any message from SC. It would be worth checking out if SB1 or SliMP3 users have the same problem ? -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Maybe.. but with the other bug (at least for me) the songs would also flip-flop back and forth in a strange mix; and, required multiple key presses. This is very consistent. The first time I push play, it says invalid credentials, the subsequent time I press PLAY quickly, it works correctly every time. bpa;442575 Wrote: Could be a variation of the pause/play bug where two presses of play are needed to get stream to play. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
If there is another newer update BPA, could you please notify us here? Thanks! -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Yes, Sirius works very well.. However, sirius still requires your latest fix for wma conversion. bpa;433706 Wrote: I think there were changes in SB firmware for SC 7.3.x were to support Pandora and other services where the SB gets a connections and port needed for its direct connections and the SB has to tell SC that it was successfuk connecting. It might have been necessary to ensure playing as there are security issues (e.g. geo IP blocking) when using Pandora on SN - as the geographical location of player would not be the same as SN. The setting makes sense as web proxying avoids the SB player doing the direct connection but it implies an SC server and SC is basically the same mechanism used when playing Pandora on synced players. I think the Geo IP blocking would be done on the location of SC server. By all stations - does that include Sirius ? -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
See attached. I waited over 4 minutes before stopping softsqueeze. I'm ready for any other logs you may need. bpa;433514 Wrote: Pandora is MP3 so there is no transcoding and hence no Command windows opening. I just want to concentrate on Pandora to see if there are two different problems. The log show the Pandora stream about to play and then there is no trace of any action compared to a normal mp3 stream. The second Pandora station results in an SC error Code: [09-06-18 21:36:03.3930] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (698) Problem: Can't connect to server for:: |PANDORA| - Delerium Radio [09-06-18 21:36:03.3939] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::sendFrame (1055) sending squeezebox frame: grfe, length: 1116 [09-06-18 21:36:03.3944] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269) 0b:02:91:11:4a:96: StreamingFailed in STOPPED-TRACKWAIT - Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Invalid [09-06-18 21:36:03.3946] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Invalid (324) 0b:02:91:11:4a:96: event StreamingFailed received while in invalid state STOPPED-TRACKWAIT [09-06-18 21:36:03.3951] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1139) Warning: [21:36:03.3949] Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Invalid (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/StreamingController.pm line 286) frame 1: Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/StreamingController.pm line 1754) frame 2: Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerStreamingFailed (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/Squeezebox2.pm line 767) frame 3: Slim::Player::Squeezebox2::failedDirectStream (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/Squeezebox.pm line 772) frame 4: Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream_s (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/Squeezebox.pm line 196) frame 5: Slim::Player::Squeezebox::play (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/Squeezebox2.pm line 352) frame 6: Slim::Player::Squeezebox2::play (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/Transporter.pm line 130) frame 7: Slim::Player::Transporter::play (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/StreamingController.pm line 1001) frame 8: Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/StreamingController.pm line 286) frame 9: Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/StreamingController.pm line 655) frame 10: Slim::Player::StreamingController::_nextTrackReady (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/StreamingController.pm line 622) frame 11: Slim::Player::StreamingController::__ANON__ (C:/PROGRA~1/SQUEEZ~1/server/Slim/Plugin/Pandora/ProtocolHandler.pm line 219) frame 12: Slim::Plugin::Pandora::ProtocolHandler::gotNextTrack (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Networking/SimpleAsyncHTTP.pm line 362) frame 13: Slim::Networking::SimpleAsyncHTTP::onBody (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Networking/Async/HTTP.pm line 479) frame 14: Slim::Networking::Async::HTTP::_http_read_body (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 268) frame 15: (eval) (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 268) frame 16: Slim::Networking::IO::Select::select (slimserver.pl line 538) frame 17: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 481) frame 18: main::main (slimserver.pl line 89) frame 19: PerlSvc::Interactive (/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXEPerlSvc.pm line 99) frame 20: PerlSvc::_interactive (slimserver.pl line 0) frame 21: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0) Can you do another log of a single Pandora stations with the following logs set to DEBUG. Make sure the previous playlist is cleared (not just stopped) before starting the log. player.source network.protocol.slimproto plugin.pandora player.streaming player.streaming.direct player.streaming.remote Wait at least 2 mins after playing the station before copying the log. +---+ |Filename: server2.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7632| +---+ -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA, you wont believe this... after all this testing, reinstalling,
upgrading and downgrading of SC, etc.. thinking there is something
wrong with softsqueeze..
Any version after SC 7.2.1, if you change the SC setting for
player/audio/mp3 streaming method=proxied streaming instead of direct
streaming, all radio stations works perfectly again.
I'm not sure what changed in SC to cause this setting required to be
changed; but, there's a very easy solution to make all radio stations
work again.
I have had to change to proxied streaming in the past; but only under
unusual circumstances such as tunneling softsqueze through SSH.
Sorry for all the trouble. Glad to know everything still works; and,
more than likely to work for a while; as long as people are still using
SB2 devices.
bpa;433559 Wrote:
I think there is something special happening in an SB3 to handle Pandora
- it looks like the SB3 knows how to handle Pandora:// URL and
Softsqueeze doesn't.
Code:
[09-06-19 07:51:06.0612] Slim::Player::Transporter::play (124) Setting
DigitalInput to 0 for [pandora://18914542081163271.mp3]
[09-06-19 07:51:06.0614] Slim::Player::Transporter::setDigitalInput (204)
Switching to digital input 0
[09-06-19 07:51:06.0617] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::sendFrame (1055) sending
squeezebox frame: audp, length: 1
[09-06-19 07:51:06.0633] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream_s (579) stream_s
called: format: mp3 url: pandora://18914542081163271.mp3
[09-06-19 07:51:06.0636] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream_s (740) This
player supports direct streaming for pandora://18914542081163271.mp3 as
pandora://18914542081163271.mp3, let's do it.
[09-06-19 07:51:06.1263] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1139) Warning:
[07:51:06.1260] Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at
/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/Squeezebox.pm line 770.
[09-06-19 07:51:06.1266] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1139) Warning:
[07:51:06.1264] Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at
/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Player/Squeezebox.pm line 770.
[09-06-19 07:51:06.1268] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream_s (770) Couldn't
get an IP and Port for direct stream (:), failing.
[09-06-19 07:51:06.1271] Slim::Player::Squeezebox2::failedDirectStream
(763) Oh, well failed to do a direct stream for:
pandora://18914542081163271.mp3 []
[09-06-19 07:51:06.1274]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerStreamingFailed (1736)
0b:02:91:11:4a:96
[09-06-19 07:51:06.1286] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage
(698) Problem: Can't connect to server for:: |PANDORA| - Delerium Radio
It looks like additional code is in needed in Softsqueeze to emulate
SB3 - it is probably not practical nor the correct thing to do. The
better way would be to figure out how Pandora is supported with SB1 as
I think the SB1 firmware has not been changed for a few years.
The following is an idea I had about a workaround.
Assuming you have mplayer and lame installed, there is a slim chance
that adding the following lines to the convert.conf might work.
Code:
pandora mp3 softsqueeze *
# F:{PATH=%f}R:{PATH=%F}T:{START=-ss %s}U:{DURATION=-endpos %w}
[mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null $START$ $DURATION$ -cache 128 -af
volume=0,resample=44100:0:1,channels=2 -ao pcm:file=#PIPE# $PATH$ | [lame]
--silent -q $QUALITY$ $BITRATE$ - -
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Forget it. I rather have it broken than you feeling like youre being nagged. bpa;433141 Wrote: Don't nag me. I don't forget. If you nag, then I get negative feelings about your posts and I become reluctant to even read them. I am in a position to test but now Sirius has changed their access policies and so I cannot test. I cannot access Slacker or Pandora so I cannot test any problems relating to them. However Slacker is MP3 so there should be no connection with the WMA issue of Sirius and behaviour of 3.7 would be the same as 3.9. I don't know what format Pandora uses. Since all these services are subscriber ones with special SC plugins which access the service through SN. I think the issue is not Softsqueeze but SC/SN - perhaps Sqosftsqueeze users are not meant to use them. I presume you have all you necessary Squeezenetwork accounts setup and have subscribed to Slacker and Pandora. If so then make a log of trying to play a single Slacker statiosn with player.source set to DEBUG and network.protocol.slimproto set to DEBUG with only a single Softsqueeze running. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
I made a typing mistake in my post from a couple of days ago saying, Hi BPA, any movement now? It would be great to get slacker and pandora working everyone using softsqueeze. What I meant to say was Sirius and pandora. I think slacker works correctly (at least the last time I checked). I could be wrong, but it looks like sirius might still have some kind of wma conversion issue. Pandora's issue might be different. It just wont connect at all to the pandora service. Let me know if there's anything else I can do on my end besides providing the logs you asked for for sirius and pandora. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Great, I'm glad at least you have the logs (posted earlier). Last I checked, Pandora used regular mp3s (I was able to save the mp3 files in my temp directory). Yes, I have a Pandora account. I am using softsqueeze to play both sirius radio and pandora over SC. However, the latest known version of SC that supports sirius and pandora is SC version 7.2.1. I'll try Squeezeslave after I get home from work and report back. bpa;433202 Wrote: The logs are a good starting point. What format does Pandora use ? Have you got an account set up for Pandora ? What are you currently using to play Pandora over SC ? Can you also test Squeezeslave on Pandora and Sirius as another check to see if it is an SC issue. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Here is what I did. I haven't gotten a chance to try Squeezeslave yet as it was getting too late... Here's a log of all the events and see the attached respective debug log you asked for: 9:23:30pm - Select Sirius - Howard 100 radio station and I press Play.. I see, Now playing on display. But counter is stucked at 00:00; although I can see the counter moving forward in SC Web interface. 9:27:00pm - Select Sirius - Backspin radio station and I press Play (same as above on display) 9:31:00pm - Select Pandora - Ready Steady Go Radio and I press Play (On display after one second of trying to connect, Problem: Can't connect to server for: Pandora - Ready Steady Go Radio. I don't see a command window open up this time like the way it does when debugging is on for Sirius radio playback. Counter isn't moving forward for both the display or the SC Web interface. 9:36:00pm - Select Pandora - Delerium Radio and I press Play (Same as above) 9:47:30pm Stopped Softsqueeze 9:48:10pm stopped SC Note: I might have messed up on this (it was getting late at night): I upgraded to SC version 7.3.3 from 7.2.1 (which had the Softsqueeze 3.9 files in the default directory of SC and the verion 3.9 files might have been overwritten during the upgrade to the older softsqueeze 3.7 files... not sure if the SC upgrade is smart enough to leave newer files alone. However, the results were the same anyway when I was certain I was using softsqueeze 3.9 when I tested a while back. bpa;433306 Wrote: I think there are two problems but I can't be sure as the Pandora log did not record all the requested message. So a log is needed with * player.source set to DEBUG and * network.protocol.slimproto set to DEBUG Also don't cut the logs off - wait at least 2 mins after pressing play. Do not try to play the same station/program more than once as SC caches failed attempts. +---+ |Filename: server.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7628| +---+ -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Hi BGP, any movement now? It would be great to get slacker and pandora working everyone using softsqueeze. Thanks, MKANET bpa;424552 Wrote: No movement. I haven't had time to do work on plugins recently - just basic work on AlienBBC. I checked the logs and couldn't see anything helpful. The only way I can see to debug the problem is to sign up for a 3 day Sirius Trial. That means installing Sirius Plugin and ensuring 3 days of guaranteed available debug time and I know that can't happen for a few weeks. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Thanks BPA, I'll pay for any membership or other costs during testing. But just so you know, Pandora is also broken; and, that's broken in a different kind of way. I've included debug information for that as well. If it will help motivate you, I'll even contribute generously via paypal torwards Softsqueeze development time. It would be worth it to me. bpa;424552 Wrote: No movement. I haven't had time to do work on plugins recently - just basic work on AlienBBC. I checked the logs and couldn't see anything helpful. The only way I can see to debug the problem is to sign up for a 3 day Sirius Trial. That means installing Sirius Plugin and ensuring 3 days of guaranteed available debug time and I know that can't happen for a few weeks. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA: Here it is again... (Reposted due to non-response) PS: The old Sirius radio plugin made for Slimserver 6.x stopped working for me a long time ago. SC + Softsqueeze worked much better for me. bpa;417977 Wrote: I don't have Sirius so I don't know any specifics. Please give more info. If you have a problem give details. * SC version and OS on which it is running (it makes a difference to WMA support) * Softsqueeze version tested (i.e. works for 3.7 , works for 3.8, fails for 2.9) * Is Softsqueeze running on same OS as SC or different one ? * any other info - using standard SC plugin or Greg;s plugin whatever that is. As I understand it - Sirius support is supported as part of SqueezeCenter. What is this Greg's Plugin ? What version of SC does it use ? How does it support WMA ? Do SC Sirius and Gregs plugin clash if both installed ? Does Greg plugin reaplce the SC Sirius plugin ? +---+ |Filename: sirius-radio-server-log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7350| +---+ -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
BPA: Forgive me if you have been already working on a solution for the reproducable issues for Sirius Radio and Pandora Radio both being broken. I re-posted the two posts with respective full debug logs you asked for (above two posts) Thanks, MKANET bpa;419308 Wrote: This looks like... -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Sirus Radio doesnt have anything to do with ED. The issues I'm reporting is not just my problem. Its with the current Softsqueeze and it's compatibility with the current SC. It most likely affects anyone who tries it. Sirius Radio works by disabling wmp-non-mp3 file types. Pandora is also broken (Complete information given in previous posts). bpa;419375 Wrote: I don't see what Sirius problem has to do with ED problems. WRT to the Sirius issue - I don't deny you have a problem but since I can't use Sirius it is not obvious from the logs what is the problem - at a guess it is a slimproto issue due to timing. I am working on other things at the moment and will get to the Sirius issue in due course. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
I had posted on bugzilla under the bug for sirius radio/softsqueeze with all the information. I'll post here as well if you prefer... bpa;417910 Wrote: I can't test Sirius so you should provide more info such as what is the other problem if you disable WMA-Flac. What is the fix in bugzilla - please give bug no etc.. There is no SD support for SoftSqueeze so there is no guarantee there will be further updates. Unless you help define the problem definitively, you are dependent on finding a SoftSqueeze Sirius using developer to help you. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Here it is... mkanet;418251 Wrote: BPA: I have good news and bad news. Bad news=The Sirius Radio patch for SoftSqueeze.jar doesnt work using SC 7.3.3 (even when using the entire Softsqueeze 3.9b1 player). Your patch did work for SC 7.3.0 though. Good news=I am able to playback Sirius Radio by changing file types: WMA-FLAC=disable, WMA-WAV=disable, WMA-Windows Media=disable. The attachment has the debug information you asked for: [player.source=debug, plugin.sirius=debug, network.protocol.slimproto=info] while trying to play 2 sirius radio stations. Hopefully, this will help you with fine-tuning a fix for softsqueeze (So, filetype settings for WMA can be put back to their defaults). Let me know if you need any more information. Thanks. +---+ |Filename: server-log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7336| +---+ -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Hi, This version doesnt seem to fix Sirius radio audio playback. I just upgraded from SqueezeCenter 7.2 (which Sirius Radio was working fine) to the latest Squeeze Center 7.3.3, and now Sirius audio cannot be heard after connects and buffers. I tried the old trick of changing the file type of WMA to disable, but that caused a problem another problem. Anyway, I know there's a fix for this already in Bugzilla, however, I'm hoping the next build of Softsqueeze will include this fix (since it includes all the other fixes). Will the next build of Softsqueeze 3.9 beta be announced in this thread or a separate thread under 3rd Party Plugins? Thanks for all your effort! -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Softsqueeze 3.9 beta for testing
Sorry, I was in a rush this morning. There's a good chance I goofed something up. I'll take my time this evening to test. There's a good chance that Softsqueeze 3.9 does include the fix I want and I just didnt update softsqueeze correctly. bpa;417910 Wrote: I can't test Sirius so you should provide more info such as what is the other problem if you disable WMA-Flac. What is the fix in bugzilla - please give bug no etc.. There is no SD support for SoftSqueeze so there is no guarantee there will be further updates. Unless you help define the problem definitively, you are dependent on finding a SoftSqueeze Sirius using developer to help you. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
It's not a dumb question, since most people dont know the advantages of softsuqeeze... but using a softqueeze allows for flexibility, functionality, and general aesthetics in the user interface, speaker settings, and other automation not possible by any hardware that is offered by Slim Devices/logitech. For example, with my softsqueeze-powered setup, in the mornings while getting ready for work, my PM automatically switches to my high-end bluetooth speakers near my bathroom/bedroom, then switches back to the default home theater speakers. Another example, I have integrated softsqueeze based technology into my home theater setup which offers a far better experience in user interface navigation, flexibility, and general aesthetics that aren't offered by Slim Devices/logitech... the picture comparison below should explain better: Nonreality;345124 Wrote: This may be a dumb question, but why do you need it to work on Softsqueeze? It's really not your problem is it? The need is it to work on your equipment and anything else is a bonus to the people that use the other stuff. Maybe I'm missing something here with the people that complain to you. +---+ |Filename: slim-3.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5936| +---+ -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SqueezeScrobbler 1.0 for SqueezeCenter 7.0
Hi, thanks for the great plugin. I'm curious if there are any outstanding issues related to Softsqueeze/SC 7.01 under Windows Vista. Are there any plans for SC to support last.FM entirely in SC 7.x/Squeezenetwork (without the need of this plugin)? I know this just happened to the Sirius Radio Plugin. My last question is a bit off topic, but I know there are a lot of smart people who watch this thread... I could be wrong, but there currently is no good way to have Now Playing on SqueezeCenter information relayed to Internet Chat programs like Trillian. Is there a clever way to somehow taking advantage of the information being sent to LastFM AudioScrobbler to be sent to chat programs? -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38845 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
There's a bug in Sirius radio builtin to 7.01 currently. Does anyone know the status of this problem? I just upgraded to a clean version of 7.01 (without Greg's plugin). However, it continuously loads, then connects, then loads... not actually connecting. I called logitech support. They said that this is a current bug. However, it looks like there are people who are (or at least were) using it before. Did it break at some point? Maybe there's a fix for it? -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Andy, is there a upcoming fix for this in the near future? Will the fix be in a beta version of SC? If it's not something that will be fixed in the next week or so, I can just use Greg's plugin; which I know works great. andyg;306705 Wrote: The bug you're referring to is related to Softsqueeze only. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
It seems to get stuck sometimes. It's working now. strawnj;286954 Wrote: I have had the same problem lately. I have not tried a different source other than dogstar. Its on my list when I have some extra time. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Music info isnt updating for me just for this plugin. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Weird... hmm... my donation and email didn't see to get Greg's attention. O Greg -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Greg please find my donation in your email :) -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
I have the same exact configuration as before both on the server side and the client using softsqueeze with latest software (using SqueezeCenter 7). I can playback all different kinds of audio files, and other plugins. However, with this plugin, I can navigate through the menus... and it says... connecting... buffering... after buffering is finished it displays the artist and song.. I can even see the data being transfered via window task manager. However, there's no audio. The only way I can trick this plugin so I can hear the sound... is start streaming of a Sirius Radio channel... then go and try to play a song in my music folder... this will cause the sirius audio to be heard. Hopefully, these clues and with the help of the creator of this awesome plugin, we can get it working... I know I'm going to be asked to provide some kind of log files... but before then, I just want to get the attention of the person who made this plugin... I really dont want to have to revert back to the old slimserver version and respective sirius plugin. Can you please tell me how to get the correct logfile for softsqeeze? I dont have any issues with this plugin on the same machine as my SqueezeCenter machine. I really hope there's a possibility of getting this resolved soon.. I use this plugin at lot at work... used to anyway. Sincerely, Michael -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
My brother was able to reproduce this at his house too. Definitely a bug in this plugin. Again, all audio files with multuple formats and other plugins work perfety in SqueezeCenter via SSH except for Sirius Radio plugin. Please help!! Thanks so much, Michael -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
What directory is *\slimserver\server\Plugins\* exactly? My best guess was C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Plugins But, that produce the following error under SqueezeCenter 7 when going into settings: 404 Not Found: settings/plugins/SiriusRadio/settings/basic.html -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Greg, thanks on confirming which one of the three to use; and, now understand why you haven't made it the default :) I honestly wouldn't use Slimserver if it weren't for your plugin. SageTV just lets me get the best out of it. I only have two things enabled on my client's menus: 1) Sirius Radio 2) Music Folders Keep up the good work. GoCubs;251708 Wrote: Dogstar is probably the best. I really should update the plugin to make it the default... but maybe I'm selfish and don't want Dogstar's servers to get overloaded ;) BTW- nice set up there with SageTV. I'm curious though how it's able to show the song channel as well as the song info. -Greg -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
I use a Slimserver client (SageTV's Slim Player), which is capable of showing artist, biography, Song Title and name. Which one of the three databases do you guys use? I noticed the default often stops updating; and, kind of unreliable (itsonsirus.com). The second one is even more unreliable (itson.siriusbackstage.com). I just recently switched to dogstarradio.com; and, it seems to work the best. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/mkanet/5.jpg -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius and FLAC audio over SSH... STUTTERING AUDIO!!
Thanks! Its on Windows. Nikhil;246380 Wrote: Is your SlimServer on a mac or win? I will try to give you detailed instructions accordingly. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40661 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius and FLAC audio over SSH... STUTTERING AUDIO!!
okay, I copied the lame dll file in the bin subdirectory. Now what? 1) Do I need to register it as a directshow filter? 2) Do I need to configure slimserver to accept this encoder or choose this encoder instead of what it's doing? 3) Where do I specify the bit rate limit exactly? 4) At what point can I go to my softsqueeze player and play flac/sirius radio at a prespecified bit rate? Thanks, Michael Nikhil;246503 Wrote: You should try these instructions from the wiki. If they don't work for you, then we could try to troubleshoot. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?LAMEForTranscoding http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RemoteStreaming -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40661 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius and FLAC audio over SSH... STUTTERING AUDIO!!
These are perfect instructions! Thanks! I wont be able to test this until Im on the other end of my ssh tunnel :) Thanks, Michael Nikhil;246508 Wrote: The way I have it on windows is that there is a folder called MSWin32-x86-multi-thread within the Bin subdirectory. This should contain a number of windows executables including flac.exe. To this I added the lame binary - lame.exe . There was no need to register it as a directshow filter. In the slimserver web interface, go to server settings. Select 'File types' and under FILE FORMAT CONVERSION SETUP make sure the line which says File Format - Flac and Stream Format - mp3 is selected. Save this. Connect to SlimServer with Softsqueeze. Then go back to the web interface. Under Settings, click on player settings for your SoftSqueeze player (it might be listed by MAC or IP addresses). In the pulldown menu, select the Audio option. After that you should see LAME Quality Level, and Bitrate Limiting. Set those to what suits your requirements. Hit save, and you should be good to go. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40661 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius and FLAC audio over SSH... STUTTERING AUDIO!!
I thought that ALL audio gets transcoded to the bandwidth the client is capable of!? If not, how do I get all audio to be automatically transcoded to available bandwidth? -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40661 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius and FLAC audio over SSH... STUTTERING AUDIO!!
Can someone please confirm that the Sirius Radio plugin at high quality and FLAC audio files will stutter over an SSH tunnel (DSL speed). Is there a way to fix this problem? -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40661 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Hi Greg, you might have missed this in my post, but I dont have any issues playing back my mp3's and wma files with much, much greater bandwidth via the same conditions (Slimserver, SSH, Softsqueeze). However, I noticed that if I play FLAC audio it has the same problem. I already tried manually limited the bandwidth in Slimserver (even really low), but it didnt make a difference. There seems to be some kind of bug. However, I'm not sure if its in Slimserver or the Sirius plugin. GoCubs;225415 Wrote: I'm thinking it must be a bandwidth/SSH issue. The plugin basically simulates a user logging in, selecting a stream, and getting a URL for that stream. That URL is then handed over to the player or SlimServer (depending on your configuration) to stream. SlimServer then handles the stream the way it handles any other stream. If stuttering is taking place its probably your connection not being fast enough or maybe the SSH processing is slowing things down. -Greg -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Currently, I have no issues with streaming any kind of audio via SSH using Slimserver/softsqueeze. However, this is the only audio plugin that will stutter continuously. I have more than enough bandwidth. Changing network buffer settings for slimserver has no affect. The sirius plugin works fine locally on the machine. This should easily be reproduced via SSH. Sirius plugin with high quality audio on a fast Internet connection. Is there a way to get this fixed. -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
For the past couple of weeks, the audio pauses so much sometimes its not even worth listening to. I've tried messing with the buffer size and time out; but, it doesn't fix the problem. I have a 6mbps downstream connection to the Internet. Does everyone have this problem who has high quality audio lately? I tried to send a message to customer care for sirius radio, but they seem to be dumb as dirt and can't get a straight answer. What are the optimal buffer and timeout settings for high quality audio? Is there anything that can be done to make it work correctly? Thanks in advance, Michael -- mkanet mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
