Re: [PEDA] PCB Rules question

2002-08-29 Thread Kulajew Waldemar
Hello everyone, Funny how many of us are fighting with the Same Problems. (not so funny when you realize that Michael Schmitt and me are probably working on PCBs for the same devices ;) Like Brad (Mr. Valander) I have tried a lot of Rules to vermeiden this DRC-error. And like him I did

Re: [PEDA] Polygon Track Spacing

2002-08-29 Thread Lloyd Johnson
>>More likely, they're suffering from islands of resist detaching and floating around, causing 5 thou gaps wherever they land. I've certainly been asked to avoid similar features (although normally it's tracks leaving pads and looping round the side of the pad, << Good point. I once had trouble

Re: [PEDA] Protel - Drill Drawing missing holes

2002-08-29 Thread Peter W. Richards
Please disregard the previous 'where is the hole size editor' email...found it. Need more coffee!! -- >>> REFLECTIVITY IS MOVING! SEE NEW ADDRESS BELOW! <<< Peter W. Richards / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Design Engineer Reflectivity, Inc. Until Sep 7, 2002: ph +1 (408) 970 8881 x113 fx +1 (408) 9

Re: [PEDA] Protel - Drill Drawing missing holes

2002-08-29 Thread Peter W. Richards
Thanks for the tip--but what is the 'hole size editor' and how do I run it? I don't see it anywhere in the menus or help...?? -- >>> REFLECTIVITY IS MOVING! SEE NEW ADDRESS BELOW! <<< Peter W. Richards / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Design Engineer Reflectivity, Inc. Until Sep 7, 2002: ph +1 (408)

Re: [PEDA] Protel - Drill Drawing missing holes

2002-08-29 Thread Terry Harris
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:19:01 -0700, you wrote: >Has anyone seen this problem (Protel99SE, SP6): No but try seeing how many holes the hole size editor reports and edit the problem hole size setting it to the same size anyway. The hole size editor has problems with holes that are almost the same

[PEDA] Protel - Drill Drawing missing holes

2002-08-29 Thread Peter W. Richards
Has anyone seen this problem (Protel99SE, SP6): I create the following 3 outputs from my PCB: - Drill Drawing (.GD1) Gerber - Drill Drawing 'Print Preview' - Drill Report (.DRR) file The 'Print Preview' drill .LEGEND table correctly shows that I have 1156 holes of various sizes (14 tools, t

Re: [PEDA] Polygon Track Spacing

2002-08-29 Thread Steve Baldwin
> I just had a board vendor reject my gerbers due to the track spacing > within a polygon pour. I have been using 15 mil tracks on a 20 mil > grid and this yields 5 mil track spacing, which violates the 8 mil > track spacing minimum this board vendor has. > > Since all these tracks are shorted to

Re: [PEDA] Polygon Track Spacing

2002-08-29 Thread Steve Wiseman
29/08/2002 22:18:44, "Dennis Saputelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >they probably just went ISO or something :o) More likely, they're suffering from islands of resist detaching and floating around, causing 5 thou gaps wherever they land. I've certainly been asked to avoid similar features (a

Re: [PEDA] Polygon Track Spacing

2002-08-29 Thread Dennis Saputelli
they probably just went ISO or something :) no seriously though i could see this as at least a potential cosmetic issue for the fab (not being able to hold the dimensions) that could be enough to trigger a reject from the customer ... why use these dimensions anyway? you don't want a solid due t

Re: [PEDA] Polygon Track Spacing

2002-08-29 Thread Tony Karavidas
I have not heard of that being a problem , but you could point out to them the fact they have made this board twice now and why do that consider it an issue this time? > -Original Message- > From: Lloyd Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:37 PM > To: P

Re: [PEDA] Polygon Track Spacing

2002-08-29 Thread HxEngr

[PEDA] Polygon Track Spacing

2002-08-29 Thread Lloyd Johnson
I just had a board vendor reject my gerbers due to the track spacing within a polygon pour. I have been using 15 mil tracks on a 20 mil grid and this yields 5 mil track spacing, which violates the 8 mil track spacing minimum this board vendor has. Since all these tracks are shorted together anywa

Re: [PEDA] PCB Rules question

2002-08-29 Thread Brad Velander
Michael, sorry, that rule doesn't work in the case of keepouts (general, or layer specific). I use almost that exact rule already and you are right that the deletion of the general board-board clearance rule presents a risk. Any no net item can short to another net if the board-board clear

Re: [PEDA] PCB Rules question

2002-08-29 Thread Michael Reagan
I know, I know, I know, how to do it Create a class of nets to include all your nets, Delete the default board/ board clearance rule, add a clearance rule ( your net classname ) to ( your net class name) It works but I wouldnt use it, I was tinkering with this several months ago while doing BG

Re: [PEDA] PCB Rules question

2002-08-29 Thread Brad Velander
Michael, I have some very similar needs but have never found a way to accomplish this task. I have had the same results as you have described. I look forward to reading any results that have come to a different conclusion. In my case I have tried the exact same thing with layer spe

Re: [PEDA] PCB Rules question

2002-08-29 Thread Dennis Saputelli
we run into this all the time just don't think of the keep out as the board outline we make the board outline on mech 1 or whatever and then draw the keep out layer either on top of the board layer or inside the the board layer a little bit in your case you would just bend the keep out layer aro

Re: [PEDA] PCB Rules question

2002-08-29 Thread Brian Sherer
Michael, I've handled this issue by offsetting the Keep Out tracks/arcs outside the physical edge of the board by a fixed amount, say 10mils. If the board is to have Polygons or Planes, you may have to create a temporary set of keepouts to control polygon/plane pours to a wider clearance; if these

[PEDA] PCB Rules question

2002-08-29 Thread Schmitt Michael
Now to something completly different ... I use Protel 99SE SP6 and i want to create / modify my design rules so that there will be no drc errors if a pad and / or a track is touching the keep out. Imagine a pad placed inside the pcb-outline and keepout's but the outter diameter of that pad is no