[RBW] Re: [BOB] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

Yes, I meant to specify a paint match on the dropouts as opposed to a contrast. The dropout area is relatively inconspicuous and a slight mismatch will be not super obvious. They are also subject to chips etc from wheel removal, chain drop etc. From my experience powder coat is never as nice as

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

Interesting idea; I certainly could get by with a st panel, but I think that panels on the lower seatstays and aft chainstays would look weird. I agree that the refinish will not be as nice as the Joe Bell paint but it will be nice, and quite frankly, paint is rather low down on my list of "must

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

The Riv certainly has nicer paint than a powder coat will be. If it were me I might just do a contrast panel on the seat tube due to the addition of bottle bosses, likewise on the rear dropouts. Especially so because you don't care to change the colour substantially. On Feb 9, 2018 09:13,

[RBW] Re: New Sage Canti Sam Hillborne

That's one formidable two-wheeler there! Sage might be my all-time favorite colors for a bike. Enjoy! On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:30:45 UTC-8, adam leibow wrote: > > a week ago today i left work an hour early, rode my skateboard to bart to > walnut creek, skated to HQ from bart, and picked

[RBW] Re: 60/62cm Quickbeam Owners: Head Tube Length?

Thanks for the info and input! Long story short, I bought what was purported to be a 60cm Quickbeam, and I am trying to confirm known good measurements. I am guessing everything measured by the seller was largely eyeballed, rounded down and/or CTC, not CTT... (Anybody wanna buy a nice green

[RBW] Re: 60/62cm Quickbeam Owners: Head Tube Length?

I'm going to guess ~2cm taller, since the QBs all had the same ST and TT angles AFAIK, and the TT on the 62 is only 1cm longer. It's none of my business but if you're trying to dial-in handlebar height, you have to be careful with HT length measurements without also considering axle to crown

[RBW] PSA 61cm (?) Toyo Atlantis on SFbayarea craigslist

Hi all, No connection to seller. Looks like a nice bike and if I had more money and fewer bikes I'd try to buy it myself. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/classic-rivendell-atlantis/6483782116.html sky in new west -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

Erl: thanks for checking. That's fine, I'll just show Chauncey your bike photo. On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 6:15 PM, WETH wrote: > Patrick, > I checked my invoice from the auto body shop that did the powder coat as I > was hoping to find a color number for you. I did not but

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo

Nick What is the standover height? Nice bike John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

Patrick, I checked my invoice from the auto body shop that did the powder coat as I was hoping to find a color number for you. I did not but did notice the invoice called it "Ford Dark Blue." Sorry for any confusion. Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: 60/62cm Quickbeam Owners: Head Tube Length?

Awesome, thanks Philip! Can anyone with a 62cm provide me with a measurement? Thanks again! Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] 60/62cm Quickbeam Owners: Head Tube Length?

60cm green Quickbeam Headtube: 7 1/2 inches Oddly, I measured all my head tubes for the first time ever, earlier in the week. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: New Sage Canti Sam Hillborne

Looks great! Any comment on the (slightly) improved tire clearance of the new canti Sams? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] 60/62cm Quickbeam Owners: Head Tube Length?

Random question, but if you own either a 60 or a 62cm Quickbeam, can you please measure your head tube for me and report back in this thread? Many thanks in advance! Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: New Sage Canti Sam Hillborne

That's a story & photo that deserves being on the Blug. dougP On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 1:30:45 PM UTC-8, adam leibow wrote: > > a week ago today i left work an hour early, rode my skateboard to bart to > walnut creek, skated to HQ from bart, and picked up a new 58cm canti sam in >

Re: [RBW] New Sage Canti Sam Hillborne

Nice color and many happy adventures! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Alone in a Sea of Autos

My friend calls it my “jazz hands” gesture. Left hand down, palm back, fingers moving and hand shaking. On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 12:53:06 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Google ate my attempted response, so here goes again. Sorry if this double > posts later. > > Bruce said:

Re: [RBW] New Sage Canti Sam Hillborne

Very nice; congratulations! On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 2:30 PM, adam leibow wrote: > a week ago today i left work an hour early, rode my skateboard to bart to > walnut creek, skated to HQ from bart, and picked up a new 58cm canti sam in > sage. i spent that night building the

Re: [RBW] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

When I responded so enthusiastically, I should have added: the blue of Earl's bike looks *nicer* than the shade on the custom. I'm sure the quality of the finish won't be as nice a Joe Bell's, but the shade is just enough lighter that it looks perfect. On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 2:23 PM, tc

[RBW] Re: New Sage Canti Sam Hillborne

Adam, Cool! Love the frame and bar tape colors. What length stem and what kind of bars? Next project: drops on my Joe A. Edwin On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 3:30:45 PM UTC-6, adam leibow wrote: > > a week ago today i left work an hour early, rode my skateboard to bart to > walnut creek,

[RBW] Re: New Sage Canti Sam Hillborne

Ran into him the morning he was planning on picking up the frame and saw him the next morning on the fully built bike ready to camp! #doesnoteffaround! I believe everything held up too! The escape the s-bowl has been put on by Irving Pham for 3 years straight here in the Bay. Always a blast!

[RBW] FS: Nitto Big Front Rack 34F

Selling my nitto front big rack. Owned it for about a month, mounted a basket on top which I can include and hung panniers on it a few times. In excellent condition. Will include all parts that riv includes with the rack. Asking $190 shipped. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: New Sage Canti Sam Hillborne

Well done Adam! I love the idea of a Super Bowl escape camp out. Not practical where I live but a great concept. The new Sam looks fantastic! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Alone in a Sea of Autos

For the most part I no longer ride on the road. I live too far away from work to realistically commute, so unfortunately that activity was shelved when we moved here. I've had a couple of bad personal experiences riding with vehicles (yelled at, honked at, intentionally hit, bottle thrown at

[RBW] Re: Bullmoose vs. Choco-moose

So funny, the Bullmoose is about perfect for me BUT I don't do singletrack. I'm a big Jones bar fan too so that general configuration works really well for me. On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 3:40:21 PM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote: > One more thing regarding the control vs. sweep debate

[RBW] Re: Alone in a Sea of Autos

Patrick , use universal hand gestures common to human beings standing in person next to each other , no one understands "bike signals" these dayze. Think "talking with my hands". It's gotta be demonstrative, with emotion none of us are machines, period. Point left with the left hand,

[RBW] Re: New Sage Canti Sam Hillborne

Nicely done Adam! Enjoy the heck out of that bike! On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 4:30:45 PM UTC-5, adam leibow wrote: > > a week ago today i left work an hour early, rode my skateboard to bart to > walnut creek, skated to HQ from bart, and picked up a new 58cm canti sam in > sage. i spent

[RBW] Re: Fender width on a Roadini

Thank you Bill for your detailed comments. I think you are right and I will wait for the bike to arrive. I'm not very good at actually working on a bike but my bike guy at the lbs is masterful. Appreciate your time to respond. On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 3:46:38 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay

[RBW] New Sage Canti Sam Hillborne

What delightful adventure (skateboarding to get your Sam frame) to get to more adventure (building it in time for ...) ... the adventure! Grin. Beautiful bike! Great build. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] New Sage Canti Sam Hillborne

a week ago today i left work an hour early, rode my skateboard to bart to walnut creek, skated to HQ from bart, and picked up a new 58cm canti sam in sage. i spent that night building the bike with parts bin parts and parts stolen from other bikes in order to ride it on the boyzonthehoods

[RBW] Re: FS: Bob Jackson Vigorelli

Eyeballing clearance with the 30mm in there a 32 should be doable, but have not tried it yet. On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 1:24:28 PM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote: > > Nice! I had one. Biggest gripe is that I wish it fit larger tires, though > a true 32mm tire would fit with the axle all the way to

[RBW] Re: FS: Bob Jackson Vigorelli

Nice! I had one. Biggest gripe is that I wish it fit larger tires, though a true 32mm tire would fit with the axle all the way to the rear -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

Ford blue is awesome. As is Gentian Blue used by Black Mountain Cycles  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Wisconsin iBOB Unmeeting: July 13-15.

***Sorry for the iBOB crosspost!*** Mark you calendars - Join your fellow BOBs and other likeminded folk for the Wisconsin iBOB Unmeeting happening July 13-15. Here's a rough itinerary: Friday: Gather in Madison, geek out for a bit, and then ride about 45 miles to Governor Dodge State Park

[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

I agree in part. A Roadeo is currently listed at $2600 for the frameset, although if you read the text, it is listed at $2250, so maybe the price increased. However, they only have like a 63cm in stock and I'm not sure what their eta for new ones are. So what else can you get for $2600? Well

[RBW] Re: Fender width on a Roadini

My thought would be to wait until the bike is built and can scope out your clearances. Medium reach brakes and 28mm tires are a good combination for normal fenders. My expectation is that when you get the brakes set up with the tires in there, you will conclude that you can't fit an

[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

You could get a vintage race bike, but then you are buying a used bike that may or may not be in your size, or your preferred color, and have wacky wheel spacing, or take weird sized seat posts, ect. My Roadeo never rode like a vintage race bike. It wasn't near as twitchy...that's really the

[RBW] Re: Bullmoose vs. Choco-moose

One more thing regarding the control vs. sweep debate (disclaimer: this is just according to me and I have no "real" 3rd party science to back it up) - more sweep allows me to keep my elbows closer to my body, and my upper body, shoulders and arms more relaxed. A lot of people seem equate this

[RBW] Re: Bullmoose vs. Choco-moose

Joe said: “They're fine for just plonking along on a trail, but you really need that bar in front of your palms when barrelling down roots and rocks. Yes, you can get that position in the curves, but the brake levers won't be there.” Exactly my challenge with Albatross and why I love the new

[RBW] Re: Bullmoose vs. Choco-moose

Thanks for all the help, everybody. I got some pondering to do on this, but I think in the end I will probably end up with a bullmoose bar setup. On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 2:53:20 PM UTC-6, Ryan Merrill wrote: > > I'm pondering bars for my Appaloosa I ordered and have a choice to make.

[RBW] FS: Bob Jackson Vigorelli

Hi All, Have a 2012 Bob Jackson Vigorelli Fixed Gear Bike for sale. Frame: Reynolds 631 tubing. 58.5 ctc ST 58 ctc TT 27.2 Post requ. Horizontal top tube. Fork drilled for brake. Frame is not. Clearance for true 30mm tires with room to spare. Could possibly go up to 32mm but have not tried

[RBW] WTT: Nitto Noodle for Nitto Bosco

I have 44cm Noodles in decent shape if anyone would like to trade for the Bosco Bar. I will throw in some VP thin gripsters - the VP-001 - to sweeten the deal. Regards, Ken Pittsburgh, PA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] FS: Clothing, books, saddles, Blackspire // fundraiser

Proceeds are headed to help with a local trail project here in Lansing. All photos are at the link: https://imageshack.com/a/iOll/1 ?s, etc, message me offlist. Thanks/Anne

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo

It's the Cadence saddle bag. On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 9:52:23 AM UTC-6, stoker wrote: > > Nice. Wish that was my size. On a side note, what brand is the seat pack > in the pic? Thanks... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo

Here are some more measurements: 55cm effective top tube 54cm seat tube 135mm headtube 80.5cm standover 100cm wheelbase On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 1:53:52 AM UTC-6, Hetchins52 wrote: > > Hi Nick, > > Could you say what the BB center to saddle top distance is in the photo? > > Thanks, >

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo

The effective TT is 55cm, and I have run 35s without issues. Thanks! On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 9:33:44 AM UTC-6, Minh wrote: > > Hi Nick, a few questions i'm sure everyone would like to know > >- effective TT >- how big a tire can you run w/ and w/o fenders? > > > On Wednesday,

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo

I think it could run 38s. I've run 35s without issue. On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 2:25:35 PM UTC-6, Gideon Tsang wrote: > > What's the max tire clearance? Looks like it has similar clearance to a > Roadeo or Ram? > > On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 11:26:33 PM UTC-6, Nick Davis wrote: >> >>

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo

Nashville,TN On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 11:56:09 AM UTC-6, S. Greco wrote: > > That thing is awesome! > > Out of curiosity . . . where is this / where are you located? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Fender width on a Roadini

HI all. Thought I'd float this question to the group. I have a Roadini that is being painted now and I'd like to order some Woody (wood) fenders for it. Thought I'd go custom flat. I plan on putting a 28 Compass Chinook Pass on a H Plus Son TB14 rim. I need a width for the fender and not

Re: [RBW] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

Oh! I want Ford Blue! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Thanks all. You can all go home now. Patrick "besides, it will mean that I can re-use my bar tape" Moore On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 11:45 AM, WETH wrote: > Patrick, > I had my Romulus powder coated in "Ford Blue." Looks

Re: [RBW] Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

First, it's not a problem, is it? Just a choice, except to the extent that a choice is a problem. Next, you'll have to define and defend "outclassed. As to reasons to choose a Rivendell, they have an almost if not absolutely unique kind of fit and handling (I've owned 5), so that's one reason,

Re: [RBW] Alone in a Sea of Autos

On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 2:11:39 PM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > Add a fluffy, adorable dog in the basket and people just swoon. > > > Pics! Or it never happened. Would love to see the little guy. Reid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

I think the real problem here is the Roadeo is simply outclassed in it's price bracket. You could easily get a custom geo steel road bike with a carbon fork fork less. If the plan is a lightweight steel build I'd say there are way better choices for your money. If lugs are the the desire,

[RBW] Re: Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

https://goo.gl/images/DBhMtP I think this will link you to the Crust Lightning bolt paint. I don't know what it is but it looks like a delicious candy coating in real life. I'll probably never do a repaint, but if I did... ..and you should -Kai BK NY On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 12:13:15

[RBW] Re: Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

My Hunqapillar is named Shadowfax, after Gandalf’s horse in Lord of the Rings. I gave the books singular description to the painter and gave him creative license to make it happen. Frame’s still with Mark. “By day his coat glistens like silver; and by night it is like a shade, and he passes

[RBW] Re: Alone in a Sea of Autos

Google ate my attempted response, so here goes again. Sorry if this double posts later. Bruce said: “If there's no room to be passed, I signal that and take the lane. Once there is room I move over and wave them around. It works for me.” Sweet! I attempt much the same thing, but with mixed

[RBW] Re: Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

I have always thought the yellow of Pondero's Rambler to be a perfect shade and tone of yellow. Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

Patrick, I had my Romulus powder coated in "Ford Blue." Looks to be close to your existing color. https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157654006187120 Erl Kensington, MD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Alone in a Sea of Autos

I'm alone on every commute. Maybe I'll see another bike on the trail part of my commute, but on the road parts it's just me and all the cars and trucks. I'm OK with that. I like riding much more than I do driving. My car is 10 years old and at this rate will last another 10. I get the

[RBW] Re: Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

Schwinn Kool Lemon (AKA Corvette Yellow) or Coppertone - might have to change the pedals. Laing Cocoa, FL On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 12:13:15 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > Chauncey will, God willing, pick it up tomorrow for some modifications: > much longer -- longer-than-1010 --

[RBW] Re: Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

Yea to the idea of paint with "depth" and "dimension" or texture to it , anything but "flat" ! Whether it be metallic, pearl, translucent, liquid-like etc I don't know all the terms but you get the idea. I rather like paints that appear different in different shades of light , the

[RBW] Re: Advise me: what powdercoat color for Riv #2, the '99 Joe Starck gofast?

PM, if I were to go with a custom paint it would be Ferrari red. Someone passed me on Bicycling Mag's Fall Classic last year on a bike of that color and it really looked great and got my attention! Good luck, JohnS On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 12:13:15 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: Alone in a Sea of Autos

One time last year on my commute from inner city Baltimore south to near BWI, a motorist gave me a thumbs up as I crested a hill, made my day! As for riding with other bike commuters, once in a while I'll meet up with a co-worker and sometimes I'll catch up or be passed by another cyclist, but

Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

Nice build Toshi! Love the red. JohnS On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote: > > I weighed my Roadeo out of curiosity and it is 22 lbs as shown in this > picture, but without the wrap under the saddle. I suppose if you used a > double crank and got a lighter seat, it

[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?

Update for me as well. Called Riv and confirmed that it would not be uncommon for a 62 Sam with a 48/34 big big to result in a new chain being a tad short. I added a link or two and connected it all with two quick links. Guys at Riv said they have done the same on their own bikes without issue.

[RBW] Re: Alone in a Sea of Autos

I consider the layer of dust on my car to be a badge of honor. I probably to 2K or less per year. It's only on the weekends if I have a long errand to run with time constraints that I use it. Otherwise, its the bike. I take Caltrain to work from San Mateo to the city. I ride my Brompton to and

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo

38s probably. I've run 35s without issue On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 2:25:35 PM UTC-6, Gideon Tsang wrote: > > What's the max tire clearance? Looks like it has similar clearance to a > Roadeo or Ram? > > On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 11:26:33 PM UTC-6, Nick Davis wrote: >> >> Hi all, >>

[RBW] Re: Bullmoose vs. Choco-moose

The Chocomooses that came stock on my Appaloosa are bees knees perfect as far as I'm concerned. But I definitely don't ride much single track on mine. Dirt and that other stuff roads plenty. Rough, badly maintained MUPs, yes. The thing that is so great about this set up is how stable it all is.

[RBW] Bullmoose vs. Choco-moose

Hard to say without knowing your reach -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto racks, Thomson seat posts, Suntour XC and Shimano cantilevers, Bosco bars.

Availability update and price drops below: On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 12:04:55 PM UTC-6, Julian Westerhout wrote: > > For Sale — all prices include shipping w/in CONUS > > > > Thomson 27.4 330mm silver seat post, with cloth bag. Lots of scratches on > bottom 5 inches or so — pristine above

[RBW] Re: Clem L Sizing for Wife with 87.5 PBH

Well, one of the things about the Clem L is you don't need to concern yourself with standover. Also the seat post and seat tube are super beefy, so if you don't mind a bit of post, the 52 will absolutely work in terms of reach to bars with a Bosco setup. I think if there is any real concern the

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo

Edwin, good to know of two more Rivendell riders in Nashville! Next thing you know, we will have a gaggle! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?

update: Yesterday the chain broke where I had connected it; so, from now on I will be using a quicklink to connect chains. Thanks you for this thread... Ken P., Alexandria, Va. On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 7:32:13 PM UTC-5, KenP wrote: > > I put 125 links on my Appaloosa 9 speed chain; put