Re: [Repeater-Builder] NOAA Weater alerts

2003-11-17 Thread mch
sniff sniff Hmmm... I smell a Part 97 debate on the horizon. I'll just say it can be done with almost any controller made in the last 20 years. Joe M. Mike wrote: I talked to the ARRL regulatory department and inquired about doing this. They told me that it was illegal because snip

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NOAA Weater alerts

2003-11-18 Thread mch
bill Croghan wrote: It might be stretching the rules a bit, but after changing the courtesy tone, maybe the controller could be set to ID every ten minutes until acknowledged. Beacon ID issues. (another issue most people do but is debatable) Joe M. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PL/CTCSS Filter

2003-11-21 Thread mch
Yes, it has one, but is it being used? If JU201 (base models) is still in, it bypasses the filter. This jumper is located on the audio squelch board. You have to remove the jumper to use the filter. This is the same jumper that has to be in when not using the PL board (when using the stock

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PL/CTCSS Filter

2003-11-21 Thread mch
to be removed or is that a problem for you? Neil mch wrote: Yes, it has one, but is it being used? If JU201 (base models) is still in, it bypasses the filter. This jumper is located on the audio squelch board. You have to remove the jumper to use the filter. This is the same

Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]

2003-11-23 Thread mch
JOHN MACKEY wrote: I guess you won't need any more advice from us!! On the contrary. I think we will be answering a lot of questions... What duplexer gives me the most off-freq rejection? What can I do to reduce TX noise Does anyone have a spectrum analyzer for sale? Etc. ac0y5 [EMAIL

Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]]

2003-11-26 Thread mch
I think much of the problem is in the tuning caps on both the exciter and PA. Joe M. ac0y5 wrote: It seems a lot of the complaints are from oscillator drift and tuning drift. I have a few questions Does anyone know if the main problem resides in the exciter, or the power amp? My plan would

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communications, and other stability comments.

2003-11-27 Thread mch
Kevin Custer wrote: mch wrote: I think much of the problem is in the tuning caps on both the exciter and PA. The Spectrum equipment seems worse than any other, and the problem *may* stem from the quality of the original parts used. That certainly is the case with Hamtronics (at least

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need info

2003-11-27 Thread mch
First of all, you missed the third digit that indicates the frequency range. Otherwise,you have a: Trunk-mounted, 100W (maybe 110W - depending on the band), Micor Mobile, 12VDC Negative Ground, PL, 4 CH, Wide-spaced TX, Rev B that came with Accessories. Band is likely either 3 (VHF) or 4 (UHF),

Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000]

2003-11-29 Thread mch
Didn't the guy say he had two 2M pairs, though? (read: Not UHF) Joe M. Chuck Kelsey wrote: That's the exception, not the rule. Typically UHF (non tripler) MII's go for $75 - $100. But even at that price, you are looking at the RF being the cheapest part of the equation. The antenna will

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Interference Found!

2003-11-29 Thread mch
Adam, you have the right idea. IF you call the FCC, and they contact Verizon, and Verizon says you never contacted them directly, that will not look good in the FCC's eyes. The FCC Will consider hams to be a bunch of whiners who can't do anything for themselves. Now, if you do contact verizon and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: [Re: [Re: [RE:hash,bash,smash,noise...

2003-11-29 Thread mch
I for one have never heard of it. Motran, yes. Mocom, yes. Mocan, no. Do you by chance have a model number? (Or did I miss a joke?) Joe M. Neil McKie wrote: Any one familiar with the Mocan? Neil Lee Williams wrote: The noise level is getting pretty high on this list,can we get

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MVS as remote base

2003-11-30 Thread mch
Bill, The 'accessory plug' is 'available' on any MVS. The plug that comes out of the radio is straight through wire to the set of pins inside the radio. The inside pins are the dual inline type. BTW, if you want to run it low power (10W), just unplug the PA and plug the exciter in to the same

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Stuff.....

2003-12-01 Thread mch
Sounds like a modern day trick. Take parts from both Motorola and GE, put them in a new radio, and neither can sue because it can be equally argued that it was a takeoff of a different brand. Of course, I'm most on here know that Bendix was bought by (or merged with) King and were collectively

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Stuff.....

2003-12-03 Thread mch
If you're 'tired' of him, why are you egging him on? Joe M. Jim wrote: ac0y5 wrote: WHAT GE C O P I E D the MICOR? The engineers that told you that was on drugs! If the Micor was looked at it was on HOW NOT to build a radio. The Micor works but not as well as the MASTRII. (boy am

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Links with Voters

2003-12-04 Thread mch
under beacon rules then? Lets just say that personnaly,I would not run a continuously transmitting link. My copy of part 97 is so old,it fell apart when I pulled it out,and I KNEW you would respond... 73,Lee - Original Message - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Communication Monitor

2003-12-04 Thread mch
BUT, the Tracking Gen CANNOT be added to just ANY IFR-1200Ss - only those after a certain serial number. Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Ken, You can buy an IFR-1200S for less than $5,000 these days, and it is a very capable service monitor. The S includes the spectrum analyzer as standard,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question about combiners

2003-12-07 Thread mch
Eric Lemmon wrote: Since you must have two antennas and the equivalent of two duplexers to make either system work, it is very likely cheaper to simply use two antennas- one for each repeater. Not necessarily. You can combine the combiner and multicoupler on one antenna, but it's even more

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: site politics.

2003-12-12 Thread mch
. For the record, I think it was a Zetron. I prefer CSI, but that's one reason why the Zetron was 'available' for ham use. :-) BTW, it was wired per factory specs on a GE M-II station, so it wasn't a mickey mouse job. Maybe I should have tried it on a Spectrum? (couldn't resist) Joe M. Jim wrote: mch

Re: [Repeater-Builder] use of Bp/Br duplexer as 2 channel combiner

2003-12-19 Thread mch
Yes. In fact, one system near me uses such a setup with two simplex transceivers. Joe M. n1ofj wrote: Has anyone ever used a Bandpass/reject duplexer as a transmit combiner. As an example, using one port set up as a pass on Frequency A, reject on frequency B, and the other port to reject

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Diamond X-500 for repeater use?

2003-12-21 Thread mch
Derek B. McIntyre wrote: I have acquired a Diamond X-500 which claims 8.3 dB on 144-148 MHz and 11.5 dB on 440-450 MHz. The antenna is just over 17 feet tall, making the gain claims ridiculous.. My guess is it's rated in dBi, therefore, the claim may be a little closer to realistic.. 5

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II Audio Problem

2003-12-22 Thread mch
Daron J. Wilson wrote: I have a GE Mastr II UHF repeater that has been doing pretty well for me, last trip to the hill was a low power issue and I spotted a nice blue spark where the coax attaches to the PA board on transmit, rather easy fix. How do you have it connected? On either the base

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II Audio Problem

2003-12-23 Thread mch
Daron J. Wilson wrote: I have a GE Mastr II UHF repeater that has been doing pretty well for me, last trip to the hill was a low power issue and I spotted a nice blue spark where the coax attaches to the PA board on transmit, rather easy fix. How do you have it connected? On

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 5 tone

2003-12-24 Thread mch
Ahhh... but how many have 5-tone decode? If your main 'fleet' is going to be mobiles and portables, go DTMF. If pagers, go Quick Call II (AKA one plus one - standard paging). Joe M. Steve wrote: Yes some of the older ham rigs had DTMF decode, BUT, my new TH-F6a does not appear to have that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 5 tone

2003-12-26 Thread mch
Well, I do know Europe uses a lot of 5-tone equipment, but the fact that you had a lot of it was missing from your original post, so don't be surprised that your replies were skewed based on that missing fact. I'm not 100% positive, but I THINK you will find that there are two 5-tone formats -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater TVI Problem

2004-01-01 Thread mch
Cable CH 24 - 223.250 MHz (video carrier - same as CH 18 on 145.250). Only difference is that it's between repeater inputs (input to 224.840 and 224.860) and not on a repeater output (in most areas of the USA). Joe M. Adam T. Liette wrote: Another good reason to look at 220. Good prop, little

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help WACOM VHF Duplexer Info

2004-01-01 Thread mch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To get it to move to 2-Meters with a 600 KHz split, we had to order three new longer notch tuning capacitor brass tubes for one side How far down did you go? I think that's the same model I have that went to 146.37/.97 MHz fine. And I think it started life around 155

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater TVI Problem

2004-01-01 Thread mch
Make sure he calls the cable company to complain. That's the one thing they do listen to - upset customers (well, sometimes). That will make them clean up their system quick. Where was it the strongest? From HIS house, perhaps? Wouldn't it be ironic if the cable company found HE was the problem!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help WACOM VHF Duplexer Info

2004-01-01 Thread mch
/145.39, and prior to that, to 147.74/147.14, and all needed the new notch rods. TX-RX is familiar with the correct ones to use, it's just that they're closed until Monday and we need the info before then, if possible. LJ Original Message: - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off topic questions

2004-01-03 Thread mch
Now I HAVE to take exception to that statement. All of their answers are right. They just may not match your question. ;- You've got questions, we've got answers! (matches not guaranteed) Joe M. Mike Morris wrote: You've got questions, we've got answers! Yeah, most of them wrong, or it's

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola idenity

2004-01-04 Thread mch
Hit the send button early before. Sorry. L - Desktop 5 - 60W 3 - 136-174 MHz (not the entire split) BB - Mocom 70 based B - 120VAC 1 - CSQ 1 - 5 kHz narrowband 9 - T4-R4 0 - Controls (not sure exactly) B - Rev. B M - Mic Included Joe M. fish_497072000 wrote: Hi- See a strange Moto desk

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola idenity

2004-01-04 Thread mch
fish_497072000 wrote: Hi- See a strange Moto desk model on E-bay this morning. Model # L53BBB-1190BM. Havn't been able to find out what model/it fits into .Any one have an idea?? TKS,Jerry W8KQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor channel element

2004-01-05 Thread mch
No it is not. In fact, there is no TX element in most UHF Micor mobiles. (perhaps not in any) The TX is synthesized based on the RX channel element. However, I think the UHF base uses the same TX element as a VHF Micor mobile. Joe M. Don wrote: Before I go out in My unheated Garage at 14

Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread mch
Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR II or Micor) Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice. Joe M. Kevin Bednar wrote: I kinda figured that John

Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: request for spectrum repair help

2004-01-06 Thread mch
skipp025 wrote: It's very disappointing to me reading most of the replies to Kevin's request for help repairing his Spectrum Repeater. Most of you would rather fire off wise cracks about Spectrum equipment than help him out. To you, wise cracks. To most, relating experience. While

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Help

2004-01-07 Thread mch
After all the replies to your query a month ago, you still thought you were the only one with a problem with S___? :-O Joe M. ac0y5 wrote: It's nice to see I'm not the only one with a problem. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fuses on power cords

2004-01-07 Thread mch
Nope. Kenwood is a big promoter of fusing the negative lead. The reasons have already been mentioned on the list. Most, if not all of their radios, do not support traditional positive ground. I say traditional because there are now positive to negative ground converters for use to install negative

Re: [Repeater-Builder] wanted

2004-01-18 Thread mch
Looks complete to me, Dave. Frame, driver, final board, filter board, power cables, and all. Looks like a base station model, too, as it has a T/R relay. With respect to what Mike is looking for, the power control circuit is on the driver board, so I guess you're looking for one that's missing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Replacing MASTR II Exciter

2004-01-18 Thread mch
You may be thinking of the wire needed if you use an EC ICOM in a base station, as the compensation line is not in the base station as it is in mobiles. I think I said that correctly. I've replaced PM exciters with PLL exciters, and it was a plug-n-play matter. (plug, tune, set levels, and play

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DPL

2004-01-18 Thread mch
Gary Bargholz wrote: Hello group, first post. Welcome. :-) Joined and looked through the archives for info on DPL. Anybody know the proper spec to set the level of DPL? Using an external DPL encoder. Motorola spec is +/- 750 Hz. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on

Re: [Repeater-Builder] crossband

2004-01-27 Thread mch
It receives in one band and transmits in another. Joe M. sal90212 wrote: hi all i have q what dose crossband Repeater do ? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Programming Cable for TKR-850

2004-02-06 Thread mch
(cough) eBay (cough) Joe M. Derek B. McIntyre wrote: You will probably have to purchase the cable from a Kenwood dealer. The same cable programs TK-880's as well. They have an IC in the hood of the DB-25 connector. Would probably be difficult to duplicate. The cable doesn't cost that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Recorder

2004-02-08 Thread mch
Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: John: You may want to keep that 286 for yourself. A lot of the Moto software that is used to program the synthesized radios (like Maxtrac, MT-1000, Spectra, Saber, etc) will not run on anything faster than 100mhz. That's odd... they run fine on my XP2500+ HP

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Ham freqs in a Motorola HT750?

2004-03-11 Thread mch
mch wrote: Hi, Scott. Sorry about that. It was supposed to go direct. However, if anyone on the list knows the answer, please let me know. It is sorta on-topic. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder

[Repeater-Builder] Ham freqs in a Motorola HT750?

2004-03-11 Thread mch
Hi, Scott. I hope you, the XYL, and the new harmonic are doing well. I have a question for which you might know the answer. Do you know of any way to program ham repeaters in a 450-527 MHz split HT750? I would just change the split to a low one, but I need to keep the 470-476 MHz segment, so

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ham freqs in a Motorola HT750?

2004-03-12 Thread mch
you're going to need two radios to satisfy your wideband objectives. Yeah, I personally like the DC-to-light capabilities of some wideband Amateur gear, but that capability brings along a lot of limitations! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY mch wrote: ... Do you know of any way to program ham

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 440 - 450 Low in High Out Repeaters

2004-03-13 Thread mch
I wonder if anyone using the high-out low-in method considered the intermod concerns from having two high power transmitters 'beside' each other while the receivers are on the 'ends'. Not only would the mixing put both TXs on your receiver, but it would put it on the commercial/public safety

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 440 - 450 Low in High Out Repeaters

2004-03-14 Thread mch
Actually, I don't think .49 went on until the late 80s. I forget where they were before that. Maybe it wasn't anywhere and 146.790 was the only Washington (PA) repeater. Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: Tad Danley wrote: That was back in the early-mid 1970s in Washington, PA near Pittsburgh

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 440 - 450 Low in High Out Repeaters

2004-03-14 Thread mch
. Well, back into the woodwork. :-) 73, Joe M. Tad Danley wrote: mch wrote: Actually, I don't think .49 went on until the late 80s. I forget where they were before that. Maybe it wasn't anywhere and 146.790 was the only Washington (PA) repeater. I think Sam was originally on 145.25

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio

2004-03-22 Thread mch
That would be the MOTRAN. They have a boat load of round transistors in the final area. They used the same accessories as the MOTRAC. Or are you saying there really were MOTRACs with no tubes? Joe M. Micheal Salem wrote: Matthew: There are later versions of the Motrac which would be all

Re: [Repeater-Builder] a little help

2004-03-28 Thread mch
I don't think the AFM-24DA is made anymore. That was the 220 four pole antenna made by Cushcraft. The G7-220 is still available for a little under $200. Some of the commercial antennas should still be available, too, since they make them for 220-222 MHz. No retuning should be needed. Joe M.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help a Fireman Answer a Question???

2004-03-30 Thread mch
Matt Bergum wrote: Hello, I just Joined the group, but don't plan to stay a member (since I am not a HAM operator). I am just a fireman in Ohio looking for simple answers to repeater questions. I expect to be online for about an hour more...so you do not need to reply after that. This

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]

2004-03-31 Thread mch
There are still a ton of MASTR II repeaters out there in 'part 90 land'. The FCC now demands that you replace them even though the rules have not changed??? (they still meet current specs). I also have to admit that I never knew there was a 'list' of acceptable equipment. I thought there were

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-31 Thread mch
Russ, you need to get hold of a spell checker. :-) (or not have it automatically 'fix' all the things it thinks is wrong.) Joe M. russ wrote: The problem was not price. In fact the Kenwood Systems stuff was more money. When Motorola closed it's service (Factory) state wide service of there

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Reproduction

2004-04-05 Thread mch
Joe, I think you forgot another likely reason: The HIGH PASS FILTER in the mic circuit. Like the high frequency energy, there is also a lot of low frequency energy (below 300 Hz) on simplex that is being stripped by the high pass filter in the mic circuit that ensures CTCSS frequencies in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Reproduction

2004-04-07 Thread mch
have not advanced in the last 9 months. They can keep us updated on the progress of building them, etc. Joe --- mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be interested in several. (as long as the cost isn't too high) Joe M. __ Do you Yahoo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Reproduction

2004-04-07 Thread mch
Kevin Custer wrote: Yes, we drive on a parkway and park in driveways. We also use FM radios on VHF and UHF and manufacturers build new ones every day. Don't forget - few people actually use UHF connectors on UHF radios! Yea, but it likely won't happen since it seems that FM modulators

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Reproduction

2004-04-07 Thread mch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/6/2004 4:40:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not call it what it is FM and PM ? Yup, I agree! Because if you ask John Q. Ham what his radio is, he will say FM regardless of whether it is really PM or not.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Reproduction

2004-04-08 Thread mch
. They might have all 16 of them built if they're real go-getters :) --- mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be in Kevin's back yard next weekend (the 17th/18th, I think). Any chance of getting a couple? :-) Joe M. Joe Montierth wrote: Joe, Bob, etc: I have sent the boards

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Reproduction

2004-04-08 Thread mch
Wow, do you have a dim view of hams. I think most WOULD, and DO know the difference. After all, with all the multi-mode radios out there anymore, I don't think I've ever heard anyone having problems selecting the correct mode for repeaters. Most would not know FM from PM - I agree there, but that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Severe Weather vs. Repeater Performance

2004-04-08 Thread mch
I'm also convinced that most of that problem is (micro)fractures in the solder connections on collinear antennas. I really have come to believe that 2M stationmaster type antennas are simply too heavy and flexible to hold up. The 440 ones, on the other hand, are much more forgiving, as the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Reproduction

2004-04-08 Thread mch
I don't believe any definitions of PM and FM matter. PM is a Phase Modulator, and FM is a Frequency Modulator. What is important is what each does to the signal, or requires to maintain the 'status quo', or integrity, of the signal. If you're going to limit your range to 300-3000 Hz, there is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controllers RC-210

2004-04-08 Thread mch
How are your poor soldering skills or poor practices (shorting 12V across something and burning traces) examples of getting ripped off? I'm not going to comment on the refund because both sides seem to conflict on that issue, but you did not dispute the above causes for your returning the unit as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio

2004-04-08 Thread mch
Can't be. I say that because I've worked on Low Band Micors with DPL. I don't recall if they were 30 MHz or 47 MHz. Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: I could be wrong, but I believe all low band Micor exciters (including Stations) are PM. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Reproduction

2004-04-08 Thread mch
True, but were they members of this list? ;- (my original selection) There are now over 2000 members. I suspect the number of repeater trustees is still far greater - especially globally. Joe M. wd8chl wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Reproduction

2004-04-09 Thread mch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Joe, Hi Bob. Fact: PM does not reproduce DC well. Actually, it doesn't reproduce DC at all (beyond a spike) because in DC there is no change in the phase of the signal. The closer you get to DC, the worse PM will perform. FM, on

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio

2004-04-09 Thread mch
Neil McKie wrote: Low band Micor Station manual P/n 68P81013E60-F dated 2/11/77: Exciter Model Series consiting of the following: Channel Element Req'd ModelFreq Range Carrier Digital and PL (tone) PL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Severe Weather vs. Repeater Performance

2004-04-09 Thread mch
. Would that help reduce the problem any? (although I still think the primary problem is the connections) Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: mch wrote: That I know of, not one 2M repeater using those have survived without such static problems. The ones that have, I think, have flexed to the point where

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Reproduction

2004-04-09 Thread mch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The board being discussed on this list with the high-order filter and the limiter, assuming it's designed right, would be an excellent addition to the repeater builder's arsenal. Replace the 'blob' and get around the soft limiting and the other problems. We talked

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Reproduction

2004-04-09 Thread mch
Read me last long reply on the subject, and my reply to Bob's points just minutes ago. When it comes to links, the advantages are greater because you have even more audio shaping/processing going on, and each little bit sums. It doesn't take long until everyone notices it. Take a glass of water,

Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio]

2004-04-09 Thread mch
with a different channel element than the PM models. mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't be. I say that because I've worked on Low Band Micors with DPL. I don't recall if they were 30 MHz or 47 MHz. Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: I could be wrong, but I believe all low band Micor

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Your assistance needed - questions on a factory Mitrek mobile repeater...

2004-04-09 Thread mch
It appears it's also not a typical Mobile Repeater, but a full duplex repeater (note the two antenna connectors - regular for the RX and one on the heatsink for the TX. I wonder what frequency range it was made for (maybe 136-144 MHz or 162-174 MHz?) The 'comes with tone element for 131.8 Hz' is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R 100

2004-04-11 Thread mch
I can't say I've ever heard of an R-100 not being used as a repeater. The software, which as the most basic of any Motorola software, only programs the frequencies from what I recall. Of course, there may be custom units out there. Joe M. Rich wrote: Can a Motorola R100 witch we use as a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking at a UHF repeater...

2004-04-12 Thread mch
RC is a Micor Unified Chassis according to my info. Probably a 75W unit. All the other info is correct, too. $200? Probably. Not a great deal, but not too bad either. Narrow channel means +/- 5 kHz type (as opposed to +/- 15 kHz which used to be the standard until the late 60s, I think) It

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Reproduction

2004-04-13 Thread mch
Well, if nothing else, that page shows that even back then, people used FM and PM interchangeably. In the beginning of the article, it touts their frequency modulated (FM) system, but later it states success of the system was due to choosing phase modulation. Bob (S-Com Bob), would it be a fair

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater control

2004-04-13 Thread mch
Of course, you're likely to key up the adjacent repeater. Make sure you ID when you transmit on the frequency 5 or 10 kHz off. Joe M. Virden Clark Beckman wrote: A good way to reset one that has gotten this is use a big signal 5 or 10kc low and fool the agc limiter circuit, the cas will drop

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Reproduction

2004-04-13 Thread mch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To further state the case, assume that there are two parallel universes. Que Star Trek theme music... ;- In one universe, all hams use phase modulators and phase demodulators. The terms 'preemphasis' and 'deemphasis' are unheard of. The whole system has flat

[Repeater-Builder] FCC considers Auxiliary Operation on 2M!

2004-04-15 Thread mch
For everyone's Info: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-04-79A1.pdf Yes, this means linking would be possible on 2M legally. (above 144.500 MHz except 145.800-146.000) Joe M. _ Excerpts from NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULEMAKING AND ORDER Adopted:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC considers Auxiliary Operation on 2M!

2004-04-16 Thread mch
While I would agree with that assessment, I too have stated on the appropriate groups that KW should have included 220 and this entire issue would be a moot point. Why didn't they? Because the 200 band isn't a ham band in most of the world. However, if they could even provide for receive only

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC considers Auxiliary Operation on 2M!

2004-04-16 Thread mch
Good point. I didn't think about the 'input' aspect of the matter. Any word yet on those boards? :-) Joe M. Joe Montierth wrote: Most HF bands do not support repeater operation, in fact the only HF band allowing repeater operation is the upper part of 10M. So if you repeat audio coming

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC considers Auxiliary Operation on 2M!

2004-04-19 Thread mch
Hmmm... using that logic, you can have the most reliable repeater by not putting it on the air at all. That way, it will last forever. :-) (provided it's not using tubes) Actually, I would tend to think that like us, periodic exercise isn't a bad thing for a repeater. It will help keep the caps

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Is there a relationship between 147.225 and 146.925?

2004-04-19 Thread mch
I sit corrected. Actually, I'm almost laying down corrected. I've never been so tired - even after Dayton. I had a really really busy weekend. I thoutoughly enjoyed it, but it was still busy. Anyway... I don't understand the intermod software's math that Ken happened to be using. :-) Joe M. Ken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Is there a relationship between 147.225 and 146.925?

2004-04-19 Thread mch
Michael Singewald N1PLH wrote: First...Wow, you guys are FAST! I cannot believe how many responses in 15 minutes! Thank you all very much. The 147.225 has input 147.925 and the 146.925 has input 146.325. Actually, your input should be 147.825 for 147.225 out. To be honest, I didn't

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Product, Audio Processing Module for Repeaters and Links.

2004-04-25 Thread mch
Kevin, Do I need to go there or do you have my order already on file? Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: Hi all, You may remember the thread on audio quality a few weeks back. One topic was a replacement module for the stock audio processing circuitry which is a major cause of limited

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread mch
Unless the problem ISN'T two signals occupying the same spectrum, and it's just a matter of one receiver hearing outside its 'channel'. Joe M. Steve Bosshard wrote: No amount of filtering will resolve 2 signals occupying the same overlapping spectrum. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-28 Thread mch
Steve Bosshard wrote: Unless the problem ISN'T two signals occupying the same spectrum, and it's just a matter of one receiver hearing outside its 'channel'. Joe M. 146R325 occupies from 146315 to 146.335 146.310 occupies from 146.300 to 146.320 They SHARE 146.315 to 146.320. Oh

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-28 Thread mch
Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: Reply: Please refer to modulation index and Bessel functions. The frequency response is 300 to 3000 hz emphasized at 3db per octave. Transmitter instantaneous deviation is supposed to be limited to +/- 5 kc deviation from center. Significant sidebands in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Occupied Bandwidth.

2004-04-28 Thread mch
Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: CARSON'S RULE BANDWIDTH = 2 X (PEAK DEVIATION + HIGHEST MODULATING FREQUENCY) Thank you for quoting what I've been saying the past two posts. Most 2M off the shelf radios I have seen lately in wide band FM hit at least +/- 5kc peak deviation, and 6 to 6 ½ is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ge cabinet

2004-04-29 Thread mch
David Schornak wrote: W=cg nb ? my question is what is the opt. cg nb? CG = Channel Guard (AKA CTCSS) NB = Noise Blanker (if a single site duplexed repeater, you will want to disable it) Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go

Re: [Repeater-Builder] T1504 cavity

2004-05-02 Thread mch
They weren't designed for the 470-512 MHz band, were they? Joe M. Ken Arck wrote: Hmmm, here's a kicker At 3 megs above the pass frequency, I can adjust for a sharp, deep null about centered in the slot. At 4 megs above, it starts to get noticeably wider and almost to the outside

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CW ID Indicators

2004-05-11 Thread mch
That may be a throwback to the old FCC interim designators. For example, if you upgraded at the Buffalo (NY) FCC office, your call was W3ABC/BF. We used to say Interim BullFrog. At least I did. :-) It indicated that you had just upgraded so your class on file may be outdated, and to check with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton observations

2004-05-17 Thread mch
Are you still honoring the Dayton pricing on items that you had there? (such as tone filters) Joe, KR3P Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote: Since we were forced by conditions to leave we are making some special offers on our website. so take a look at www.mdmradio.com. we'll run these

[Repeater-Builder] GE MVP DC remote option?

2004-05-18 Thread mch
I'm playing around with a GE MVP I picked up (well, picked up AND paid for actually) at Dayton. It seems the DC supply has what appears to be an OEM DC remote in it. It has a transformer (about 1.5 cubed) and two yellow pots on it. Has anyone ever seen on of these? It is mounted along the side

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Icom IC-RP4020 Power Problems

2004-05-21 Thread mch
There have been several modules on eBay - even a few 1.2G ones! Joe M. Mark Tomany wrote: I was trying to locate the 6m FEX-736 module for my FT-736R. They tell me the radio no longer supported, and they're right. NOTHING online regarding that radio, nor anything else that is not current

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Base Project

2004-05-22 Thread mch
Why? I've done it for about 15 years. I can't use it within about 60 kHz of the local repeater, but otherwise it's fine. I just used a cavity to notch out the repeater TX. The loss of sensitivity near the repeater TX frequency is overcome by the strength of the repeaters at the site. Joe M. Ken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II

2004-05-22 Thread mch
About 8 generations down the MASTR line? :-) Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: The only thing that is worse is to see someone write Master 11, what the hell is a master eleven? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II

2004-05-23 Thread mch
Syntor XX. (one X too many). LJ Original Message: - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 13:16:48 -0400 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II About 8 generations down the MASTR line? :-) Joe M. Kevin Custer

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FBI Release: Suspect Photos- REQUEST Assistance

2004-05-28 Thread mch
Ronald Schiller wrote: Now if its on tape and you play it back to them are you divulging what you hear? Ron WA6UNM It doesn't matter. You are doing so at THEIR request. That's your 'out'. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PL on a MASTR II

2004-06-03 Thread mch
Although I have one myself, I don't recall if the CAT has any link ports. If it does, drive the encoder off a link TX output (and don't forget to put the link in TX mode). Otherwise, you will have to find a way to pad the COS to drive both the controller and the encoder. It appears you may be in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Quick question for those who have scanners...

2004-06-05 Thread mch
Or, you can just listen on a known good receiver. Program in 160 MHz and scan between 148 and 150 MHz for the L.O.. Joe M. Mathew Quaife wrote: Here ya goIs all they tell ya X1 11497989 CRYSTAL,TC-43 TYPE CX0551 X2 10592095

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Radios

2004-06-07 Thread mch
On all the units that I have, they either respond to the 1050 Hz tone, or SAME, but not both. The SAME units ONLY respond to SAME codes. The tone units only respond to tone. This won't help you, but there is a code to program the SAME receivers with so they will respond to ANY alert, but they

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