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Love the guy myself. He was my first choice too. He's the #1 IMPEACHMENT
advocate - a real patriot!
Amy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0smG7ptcM
Allow me to present you with my first choice for President of these United
States. Way back in another lifetime--a
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Forget the corporate media propaganda machine! Please go to independent
media coverage from Pacifica Radio and especially from www.democracynow.org .
Please check it out!
Amy
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Who Are You Watching to Cover the DNC?
Dude
courant.com/entertainment/movies/hc-ap-harrypotterhariputtar-0826,0,2348165.story
Courant.com
Suit Pits Harry Potter Vs. Hari Puttar
From Wire Reports
August 27, 2008
Click here to find out more!
Harry Potter studio Warner Bros. is suing an Indian film company
over the title of upcoming film
Puh-LEEZE!
It's called *parody*, people. And I've seen worse rips at the Potter franchise
on Cartoon Network- a-HA.
I've figured it out.
Warner's *isn't getting paid for this*...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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From:
You see folks...thats the point. She will make a perfect Catwoman. Her
persona is uncommonly creepy and vain...perfect for a Nolan catwoman...
i say thumbs up..
c w m
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Oh, the horror!
~(no)rave!
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I guess we have to wait and see how this all plays out. I would love
to see the true dynamic she would bring but my vote is still for
Angelina Jolie. Cher isn't even on my voting ticket for this movie.
But I'm sure they won't waste any time cranking out another movie
since the box office is about
Jolie is
1. Great actor but overly sexual and would basically be the conceptual next
step in the same direction for Catwoman
2. A star that is bigger than just about every movie she is in. She would
eclipse whatever character she plays and any of her co-stars.
3. The best actors in Nolans
Cher's 63 and last I saw of her on one of those great stage outfits
she's looks 30 so to many she still counts as hot. Considering the
effort made by the entertainment industry and the media to paint
older woman as used up and undesirable, I'd love to see her get a
chance to do this role. I'd
I guess the next Catwoman will be a cougar. Sorry, couldn't resist. i
guess Madonna was too busy for the role. Ok, I'll stop now.
I guess Nolan will have a different take than the traditional
Catwoman. The sexual tension between the two will definitely have
very different overtones than other
I actually watched some of Democracy Now's coverage. I watched a lot
of the B-List speakers on C-Span. It was good to see those
uninterrupted and without the pundits.
Why isn't the mainstream media talking about speeches from Dennis
Kucinich and Montana governor Brian Schweitzer. They got
In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:28:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why isn't the mainstream media talking about speeches from Dennis
Kucinich and Montana governor Brian Schweitzer. They got bigger
reactions than Ed Rendell and Mark Warner.
Becuase both of them are
I thought Kucinich was dead on in his criticism of the pharmaceutical
industry and their influence on modern health care was spot on and
most of the folks in the hall did as well. The man may be kooky but
his speech was very, very good.
Schweitzer was a great hype man. LOL.
--- In
Epic Movie lampooned Harry Potter and Hogwarts and they even used the
character names.
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Puh-LEEZE!
It's called *parody*, people. And I've seen worse rips at the
Potter franchise on Cartoon Network- a-HA.
I've
In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:52:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I thought Kucinich was dead on in his criticism of the pharmaceutical
industry and their influence on modern health care was spot on and
most of the folks in the hall did as well. The man may be kooky
We should keep in mind that Christian Bale was a great casting
choice, but have we forgotten that Katie Holmes was also in the
first picture and they didn't do THAT great a job at replacing her
in the second. Nolan's eye is clearly better for men. Cher is a
bad choice.
Cher is
Real talk -- he's STILL my choice. I am all for Obama, I'm not trying
to Hillar-ize the point, but if there was a write-in...this would be
my guy.
I know some Republicans who feel the same about Ron Paul. And the
great thing? THATs democracy.
On Aug 27, 2008, at 1:16 AM, Amy Harlib
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:and, uhm,
whoever it is, will be in scenes with Bale. they should be able to ACT.
cher is a HORRIBLE choice.
Dude
Say what you want about Cher but you can't complain about her acting. She's won
an Academy award and been
That's the point I keep making, especially points 2 and 3. I think the focus
on who the next Batman villain (and actor or actress playing him or her) is the
wrong focus. Now the movie's more about the villain, the actor who gets the
role, and that performance. It should be about the *story*,
I dont think any other the actors from Angel or Supernatural have the
gravitas to act in this movie. The girlfriend role had to be someone that
could act as a peer and not a subordinate to the playboy Wayne character.
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That's the point I
I don't know, they are having the same problem with The Birdcage and many
others.
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:36 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Harry Potter Vs. Hari Puttar
As the Hollywood saying goes...Ben Affleck has an Oscar. And then
you're supposed to roll your eyes.
We all have opinions about good actors/actresses, they are all
correct, and I apologize to anyone I have offended by saying that
Cher is a bad choice. But in terms of this project, Cher
I don't see McClure as Catwoman at all, but I applaud your approach, which is
to avoid going for big name stars--whatever their age. No Jolie, or Anniston,
no Kidman or Paltrow or anyone else currently or recently on the A- list right
now.
-- Original message --
At least he isn't picking someone from the hot CW show of the moment.
There was some fanart that had Marion Cotillard from La Vie En Rose
as Catwoman. An insprired choice but not likely considering her 9/11
comments.
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I don't see
1.Twin Peaks
2.I Love Lucy
3.Twighlight Zone
4.The Prisoner
5.The Cosby Show
On 8/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What are the other four TV shows? Surely an incarnation of Star Trek is
among them?
-- Original message --
From: Omari Confer
Oh, I disagree. I just used those two shows as examples, but between them there
were dozens of actresses. My main point is there's a huge source of TV and
movie actresses from which to pull, without only thinking of Jolie, Berry, etc.
Again, i'm not even necessarily talking about the main
I agree with not doing some CW hot body of the moment, but there are some good
actresses in other TV shows.
What did Cotillard say about 9/11? I've been meaning to see the movie she
starred in. She was a surprise Oscar winner for that, no?
-- Original message --
From:
Electic list! Well, I was going to ask if you had a list of top five scifi/spec
fiction shows, and then a separate mainstream topic shows, but I see you
combine the two. Indeed, only Twilight Zone on your list really spends a great
deal of time in the realms we call scifi or the supernatural.
What it seems like to me Mr. Lockhart is that you are fixated on the idea of
Catwoman being this foxy...sex symbol. Cher is a sex symbol but her
persona on screen would come accross as very unsettling...
not even playing a cougar but a Kiss of the Spiderwoman/Black Widow kind
of Catwoman.
Think
You are wrong again Mr Keith...
There are only a handful of women that could share the screen with Christian
Bale without seeming like some random hot chick.
We are talking about actresses that can actually act
Outside of Kristen Bell...
The CW cannot, will not and does not create talented
I was just looking for my top 100 sci fi movies of all time list...
maybe ill make a top 50 sci fi tv shows...
c w m
On 8/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Electic list! Well, I was going to ask if you had a list of top five
scifi/spec fiction shows, and then a separate
Cher has always been too drag queeny for my taste (especially in
those garish Bob Mackey gowns). That video (If I could turn back
time)she did half-naked on the aircraft carrier almost made me
physically ill - and that was NINETEEN years ago (when she was a mere
kid of 44).
Even Cher had the
What exactly does the term 'cougar' mean? I just saw this on
a story on Yahoo about older women/younger men couples and.
I've never heard the term before.
Is there a older men/younger women equivalent?
Meta
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess the next
Again, you miss me sir! :)
I didn't limit to the CW, I said *all* of TV and the movies: NBC, CBS, Fox,
indie films, major film studios, Showtime, HBO. I only threw out Supernatural
and Angel as an example. My point is that whenever we talk of someone playing a
pivotal role in a movie, we talk
The older men/younger women equivalent is called mid life crisis.
Not sure what the crisis is in dating younger women, but then...I
never liked the younger woman look...even when I was young. So I
guess I've always been a cougar fan.
On Aug 27, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Meta wrote:
What
Actually the older man/younger woman thing is called normal. Ever glom many
movies or TV sitcoms? How often do you see an older and/or plain looking guy
paired with a younger, more attractive woman? From Newhart to King of
Queens to Yes, Dear and According to Jim, you get older dudes with
I am always fixated on some foxy sex symbol.
But that's not what my casting choice is about. It's about the
fact that eventually Catwoman and Batman become romantically
involved...if they stay in Dark Knight mode. there is a chemistry
that should be interesting to watch on
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/01/marion-cotillards-911-
a_n_89398.html
Oscar-winning Marion Cotillard was facing embarrasment with her new
American public last night after it emerged that she doubted the
official account of the September 11 attacks. The 32-year-old French
star has
Amazing, that she might catch flak for saying what millions of others are
saying, *have* been saying for years now. Heck, I just left as forum where the
question was posed, for the umpteen-billionth time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, B. Smith [EMAIL
Whew, rave. I thought that was just me in the almost-vomiting department.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Cher's the Next Catwoman?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date:
I ahve two problems with the ten foods listed.Tomatoes and I have *never* been on the same page. (Or in the same region of spacetime, for that matter. Just don't like the things.) And grapefruit is strictly contra-indicated against two of the meds I take. Used to eat one a day, until I began
I *know*! Only in H'Wood...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Harry Potter Vs. Hari Puttar
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 10:04 AM
And, slow person that I am, I jsut realized why CN got away with its repeated
parodies.
CN in a division of TimeWarner.
Martin (will be in corner, being fitted for dunce cap)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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From: B. Smith
Gymfig, not nearly as nutty as the Numbers 1 2 men in the Guv'mint right
now...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Who Are You Watching to Cover
Keith, odds are I was wiped off that list a long time ago, with all of the
run-ins I've had with the FBI and HomeInsec. I'm keeping this e-mail, because I
don't think I've ever mentioned the tale of my cross with HomeInsec, and I'm
pressed for time right now. Within two days, I promise. And I
Keith, it never did bother me at all.
You're considering moving far, far away from Atlanta now, aren't you? ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Prisoner
Late presentation of the First Laugh of the Day Award goes to...rave!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
--- On Tue, 8/26/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Cher's the Next Catwoman?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date:
In a message dated 8/27/2008 3:53:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gymfig, not nearly as nutty as the Numbers 1 2 men in the Guv'mint right
now...
Nutt that he can not get elected.
**It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel
deal
I completely forgot about that plum assignment, rave. Is it possible to use
negative numbers in ratings?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
--- On Tue, 8/26/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Who Are You Watching to
Bosco, for myself, it was pure instinct. The thought of her in the role is just
too much to bear, for some reason. She's a fine actress, but I just don't see
her in this role. And that video for If I Could Turn Back Time... the less
said, the better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
The only reason that Kucinich isn't still in the running is because he's not
photogenic enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Who Are You
In a message dated 8/27/2008 4:20:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The only reason that Kucinich isn't still in the running is because he's not
photogenic enough.
He is a ugly and has crazy views about the government. Nobody will vote for
him. Just like no one will
I like the Cher in Witches of Eastwick, that Nicolas Cage Flick, Mask, etc.
That Drag Queen, plastic surgery woman terrified me
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:34 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:
Now you have the idea...
I am assuming that Nolan will ignore the relationship between the Bat and
the Cat...
I hope so...its been done well already...
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Daryle Lockhart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I am always fixated on some foxy sex symbol.
But that's not
What I meant to say is that there are only a handful of women that have the
acting chops to be opposite Bale on TV or in movies
Honestly though...the only tv actresses that could do such a thingare
movie stars...
so
I challenge you go give me 5 actresses that could hold their own with
It was quite moving.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And, on an entirely serious note, I admit freely that I cried like a
newborn during Senator Kennedy's speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
--- On *Mon, 8/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I quite understand. I can't eat tomatoes, either, and I found out that most
Blood type A people have trouble with them.
www.dadamo.com.
I'm good with grapefruit, but it's also contraindicated for a couple of meds
that I take, too. Bottom line...we each have
to be careful with our individual
Okay, she's gone a long way toward redeeming herself. Hillary
Clintion--after several states yielded to New York--spoke for her state and the
convention, asking that Barak Obama be declared the candidate by acclamation,
which just took place.
Good move, good move. Although...I must admit I
I admit that I, too, am flabbergasted by this, Keith. Maybe she's picked up
something along the road in the past few weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [scifinoir2]
In a message dated 8/27/2008 6:29:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I admit that I, too, am flabbergasted by this, Keith. Maybe she's picked up
something along the road in the past few weeks.
It is all for show. She want those keep h Senate seat and move on up. It is
B, I look at kooky as one of the hallmarks of higher intelligence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Who Are You Watching to Cover the DNC?
To:
Even though I don't personally find her attractive, I enjoyed Cher's
work in Mask,Mermaids,Witches of Eastwick, 'Moonstruck,
and Silkwood, but her entire filmography is only 12 films long and
more than half of her cinematic output is not noteworthy - to be
charitable. Add in the fact that she
yeah, man. I think she--and Bill--picked up that whether Obama wins or loses,
what they do this year and this week determines their own futures. It's no joke
that a lot of Blacks (me included) are incensed at the not-so-subtle racism the
Clintons--who were givent the title of honorary
Right on, but such is the nature of politics. If Barak can hold his tongue at
some of the nastiness and racism she leveled his way--while he never used the
admittedly existent sexism that exists against her--then it's the least she and
Bill can do.
-- Original message
I agree. I look at some of the so-called establishment leaders, and they're
some combination of racist, ignorant, criminal, stupid, clueless, elitist (the
old fashioned definition, i.e. filthy rich), closet gays who condemn
homosexuality on Sunday, bribe takers and givers--
and Kucinich is
In a message dated 8/27/2008 7:24:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I agree. I look at some of the so-called establishment leaders, and they're
some combination of racist, ignorant, criminal, stupid, clueless, elitist (the
old fashioned definition, i.e. filthy rich),
That's my thoughts exactly. What I saw Clintion was in a no-win situation.
It has now dawn on her that thanks to her primary actions she either has to
help Obama win the election-even if it means she'll never have a decent shot
of running for president. Or killing her political career,
In a message dated 8/27/2008 7:22:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
. If Barak can hold his tongue at some of the nastiness and racism she
leveled his way--
That is how he got the nomination.
while he never used the admittedly existent sexism that exists against
In a message dated 8/27/2008 7:21:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
used against Obama. It's less about even supporting Obama and more about the
tricks they used. And I've heard a lot of Blacks saying that if she didn't do
everythig in her power to make up for that, if
In a message dated 8/27/2008 7:39:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's my thoughts exactly. What I saw Clintion was in a no-win situation.
It has now dawn on her that thanks to her primary actions she either has to
help Obama win the election-even if it means she'll
well, I like Biden. Not my best, favorite choice, but I'm cool with him. His
work with Civil and women's rights has been good, and I like much of his
foreign policy attitude. not perfect, but he'll do
-- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated
Yep. And listening to her speech last night, and Bill's speech tonight, and
watching the amazing fervor and charisma all of the primaries bring--Michell,
Hillary, Bill--makes me a bit sad. It makes me wish it *could* have been
possible for the Clintons and Obamas to run together on the same
In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:29:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But, despite what they're doing now, Bill and Hillary have shown that they're
too prideful and self-absorbed to ever be second fiddle.
Obama said the same thing
**It's only a deal if
In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:26:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
well, I like Biden. Not my best, favorite choice, but I'm cool with him. His
work with Civil and women's rights has been good, and I like much of his
foreign policy attitude. not perfect, but he'll do
Well, you're entitled to that opinion for sure. Speaking as a liberal, I'm
heartened by a return to more liberal thinking. If it means we can look at
people as people, instead of using sexual orientation and ethnicity as scare
tactics, I'm all for it. If we can respect anyone whether they're
Maybe, but he never resorted to the nasty, name-calling, baiting, disparaging,
disrespectful tactics the Clintons did. When Hillary was belittling him as
nothing but a one-speech guy, who was respectfully disagreeing with her. when
she shot nasty and really angry comments at him during their
come, on. No true racist is going to vote for Obama just because his number two
is a white guy. Biden will help bring in those on the fence who doubt Obama's
experience and foreign policy knowledge, and yes, he will comfort some whites.
But bring in racists? Not gonna happen.
--
You're missing a huge thing here. It was Hillary who said on the record that
she was the candidate of the hardworking, blue collar, Midwestern folks, who
everyone--everyone--knew to be white voters. It was Bill who reached back and
said Well you know, Jesse Jackson won South Carolina too, and
In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:40:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, you're entitled to that opinion for sure. Speaking as a liberal, I'm
heartened by a return to more liberal thinking. If it means we can look at
people as people, instead of using sexual orientation
In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:50:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You're missing a huge thing here. It was Hillary who said on the record that
she was the candidate of the hardworking, blue collar, Midwestern folks, who
everyone--everyone--knew to be white voters.
So if
In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:56:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maybe, but he never resorted to the nasty, name-calling, baiting,
disparaging, disrespectful tactics the Clintons did.
No he had his rotweiler Clyburn and other blacks do it. He had those who
hated
In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:58:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
come, on. No true racist is going to vote for Obama just because his number
two is a white guy. Biden will help bring in those on the fence who doubt
Obama's experience and foreign policy knowledge, and
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is why I am voting McCain.
Refresh my memory - how does McCain's position on abortion stop
teenage pregnancy?
How do you defend McCain's intent to continue the disasterous policies
that have emptied our treasury and dangerously
Check out the rider on Cher's touring contract:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstagetour/cher/cher1.html
Before wowing audiences with her warbling and ass tattoos, Cher likes
to chill out watching movies on cable (don't laugh--it's not like she
requested Lifetime or Oxygen TV). Backstage, Cher
I find her incredibly attractive, but I sense that she'd be difficult to hang
out with...
-See that guy who looks like a cross between Elvis and P-Funk? He is Johnny
Ross.- From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: ravenadal
In a message dated 8/27/2008 11:16:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Refresh my memory - how does McCain's position on abortion stop
teenage pregnancy?
How do you defend McCain's intent to continue the disastrous policies
that have emptied our treasury and dangerously
Contract riders are the best entertainment ever. I once helped a friend with a
show at a nightclub in Dallas for Laibach, an Eastern European Industrial Band.
Among other things they demanded multiple cases of liquor, a keg of imported
beer, lights that literally would have lit up a NFL stadium
You really, really need to check your facts. Clyburn was on the fence for
months. Like many blacks in this country (me included) he was leaning toward
Hillary Clinton. But Obama's success, coupled with the Clinton's increasingly
hostile and dirty tactics, made him lean toward Obama. I watched
You tend to get personal with people, Gymfig. Why is that? I disagree with you,
but I don't get personal and say stuff like nothing is ever humble with you.
That's insulting. You don't know me on the level to say I'm never humble. I
think Tracey and Martin and many people in this group--with
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