Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use

2001-03-24 Thread Ted Windsor
I am using a Hana unit for testing, some may not agree that this is an accurate unit, but the CS works well for all the things I have used it for. Blessings Ted Steve Jackie Young wrote: Ted, Your adapter no doubt is rated at 9 volts 300 milliamps. Otherwise, you would have the equivalent

CSFw: TELL THE FDA THAT GENETICALLY ENGINEERED PRODUCTS MUST BE LABELED AND TESTED FOR SAFETY!

2001-03-24 Thread John Draper
TELL THE FDA THAT GENETICALLY ENGINEERED PRODUCTS MUST BE LABELED AND TESTED FOR SAFETY! The Food and Drug Administration is now accepting public comment on its proposed new rules on genetically engineered (GE) foods. Despite overwhelming consumer demand, the FDA has failed to require

Re: CSzappers

2001-03-24 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Ishak, On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:50:37 +0800, Ishak isha...@indo.net.id wrote: What is this zapper thing. Where can I get hold of one or schematics to build one, or urls to learn more about and acquire one. Hulda Clark's zapper is a very low power, audio frequency pulse generator that is

Re: CSTyndall yet clear

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
I suggest you look very closely at the Tyndall beam, Pete, particularly at the consistency of it. The beam should be a solid homogenous band, and should not appear grainy at all. If it does appear grainy then the particles are very large and reflect or diffract white light but the solution still

Re: CSSolubility of silver in water.

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
Ha Ha! You are certainly consistent Ken! I think the article refers to, in a somewhat overblown and over-technical manner, a coating of silver oxide. H2O2 also 'clears up' pieces of solid silver. Ivan. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CSTyndall yet clear

2001-03-24 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/24/01 3:38:27 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes: Subj: Re: CSTyndall yet clear Date: 3/24/01 3:38:27 AM EST From: i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com I suggest you look very closely at the Tyndall beam,

Re: CSzappers

2001-03-24 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/24/01 3:27:55 AM EST, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: Rife's device -- the granddaddy of health electronics -- doesn't use electrodes that connect to your body. It generates a radio signal that produces pulses in your body, similar to the zapper. The advantages of the Rife

Re: CSTyndall yet clear

2001-03-24 Thread BRPETERMC
I suggest you look very closely at the Tyndall beam, Pete, particularly at the consistency of it. The beam should be a solid homogenous band, and should not appear grainy at all. If it does appear grainy then the particles are very large and reflect or diffract white light but the solution

Re: CSTyndall yet clear

2001-03-24 Thread BRPETERMC
Petemec, Clear CS with a brigth T.E. (tyndall) most probably says large particles. **wouldn't large particles give my solution a colour(absorption)? The T.E. can be related to concentration to the first power, and particle size to the third power. **So

Re: CSSolubility of silver in water.

2001-03-24 Thread Dean T. Miller
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:16:03 +1200, Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz wrote: There is a constant, but small reaction, at the silver metal/water interface: Ag + e Ag+. Thermal currents and diffusion will dilute the concentration near this interface, so that in order to maintain an equilibrium more

Re: CScontact with silver kills bacteria

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
Okay, but it is debatable whether it is the physical contact with the bulk silver or the silver ions at the water silver interface, that cause the action. - Original Message - From: Frank Key fr...@strsoft.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 24 March 2001 03:42 Subject:

Re: CSRe: saturated solution

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
Frank, Roger asked about anions formed at the cathode. As long as there are anions (OH-) formed at the cathode silver ions can enter the solution at the anode. The presence of carbonate is not required. However, if silver ions are introduced by some method other than electrolysis only then would

Re: CSSolubility of silver in water.

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
Hi James, The electron never leaves the bulk silver, the ion leaves without an electron and returns to gain one. The electrons in the D orbital are generally free to roam throughout the metal, indeed the Jellium model considers some metals to be ions in a sea of electrons (sort of) -

CS2 x Batteries. was More list owner comments, PLEASE READ!

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
12 to 18 Volts is ideal for a constant voltage generator primarily because the current density on the electrodes remains low throughout the generating window. It is slower to achieve the same concentration, but the result is generally a colourless to lightly coloured CS with little sludge

Re: CSFwd: Dr. Jon's Special Silver FAQ's 3-19-01

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
The only silver water filters I can find are silver impregnated carbon. I can't find much in the way of silver air filters. Ivan. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 24 March 2001 04:45 Subject: Re: CSFwd: Dr. Jon's

Re: CSSolubility of silver in water.

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
You seem to have got it covered Roger. I might just add that the oxygen reaction at the anode is unlikely to proceed at low voltages, as silver is oxidised at a much lower potential. Ivan. - Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 24 March

Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
Michael, O- and O radicals will be quite injurious to lung tissue. Ozone is O3-, and is produced by UV light or electric arc. Ivan. - Original Message - From: michael murray uri...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 24 March 2001 09:02 Subject: Re: CSPersonal Experience

Re: CSTyndall yet clear

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
Good point. Not as far as I know Roger. This CS (grainy Tyndall) is likely to be unstable. Ivan. - Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 24 March 2001 21:50 Subject: Re: CSTyndall yet clear In a message dated 3/24/01 3:38:27 AM EST,

Re: CScontact with silver kills bacteria

2001-03-24 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/24/01 6:20:31 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes: Subj: Re: CScontact with silver kills bacteria Date: 3/24/01 6:20:31 AM EST From: i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Okay, but it is debatable whether it is

Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use

2001-03-24 Thread Steve Jackie Young
Ted, Your adapter no doubt is rated at 9 volts 300 milliamps. Otherwise, you would have the equivalent of an arc welder (300 amps). For the tiny load your CS generator is to your wall adapter, the voltage is probably more like 10 to 11 volts, since most adapters are not regulated. What tester

Re: CSSolubility of silver in water.

2001-03-24 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/24/01 8:24:58 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes: Subj: Re: CSSolubility of silver in water. Date: 3/24/01 8:24:58 AM EST From: i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com You seem to have got it covered Roger. I

Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use

2001-03-24 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/24/01 8:29:32 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes: Subj: Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use Date: 3/24/01 8:29:32 AM EST From: i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Michael, O- and O

Re: CSTyndall yet clear

2001-03-24 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/24/01 8:32:47 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes: Subj: Re: CSTyndall yet clear Date: 3/24/01 8:32:47 AM EST From: i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Good point. Not as far as I know Roger. This CS (grainy

Re: CSRe: saturated solution

2001-03-24 Thread Ode Coyote
Should that read To make higher PPM of 'ionic' silver in solution requires anions in the form of carbonates? Thus anything after that saturation point of 13.3 PPM [without making carbonates] will be colloidal particles in suspension? But it is also possible to make a supersaturated ionic

Re: CSMore list owner comments, PLEASE READ!

2001-03-24 Thread Ode Coyote
The idea is to limit the current by dropping the voltage. You can start with 4 batteries to more quickly overcome the initial resistance of distilled water. Remove one battery in 10 or 15 minutes and remove another battery every 10 or 15 minutes till you only have one at the end or even go in

RE: CSSolubility of silver in water.

2001-03-24 Thread Ode Coyote
They said that colloidal solutions were light sensitive, therefore, not practical. Something that most of know to be untrue. Ken That http://www.burnsurgery.org/Betaweb/Modules/silver/section3.htm link is a great resource: thanks much. Being from the Official and Accredited sources, it will

Re: CSRe: saturated solution

2001-03-24 Thread Frank Key
Ivan wrote: Roger asked about anions formed at the cathode. As long as there are anions (OH-) formed at the cathode silver ions can enter the solution at the anode. The presence of carbonate is not required. However, if silver ions are introduced by some method other than electrolysis only

Re: CSLIST OWNER COMMENTS, chapter 3...

2001-03-24 Thread Ode Coyote
Frankly, everyone can yell at each other all they want to. Not my problem. Every one takes what they can use and that's different for everyone. If you take the yelling as having enough value to disturb you, it's because it's useful in your own drama of yelling. What can be used is usually mixed

Re: CSSolubility of silver in water.

2001-03-24 Thread Frank Key
It would seem that there is a belief that silver dissolves in water. If that were so, then a simple test would be to place metallic silver in pure water for some period of time and then test the water for presents for silver ions. Atomic absorption could detect silver ions down to about 50

Re: CS2 x Batteries.

2001-03-24 Thread A.V.R.A
Thanks Ivan! I have a saved copy of that post as well. The reason I hesitate with the step down method of CS production with the nine-volt batteries: Every time the electrodes are removed from the solution, as they ARE being removed ie the silver is exiting the water, surface debris is left on

Re: CSSolubility of silver in water.

2001-03-24 Thread Ode Coyote
I get white stuff on one electrode that turns my fingers silver and black stuff on the other that turns my fingers black. To me, this says that I'm electroplating some silver and making silver oxides out of some, with a bunch of silver that doesn't make it to the other side [stays in the water]

Re: CSRe: saturated solution

2001-03-24 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/24/01 11:06:34 AM EST, fr...@strsoft.com writes: If carbonates are not present, then silver ions will saturate pure water. When the water cools to room temperature, the solution becomes supersaturated and the silver ions are forced out of solution as large metal flakes.

Re: CSRe: saturated solution

2001-03-24 Thread Frank Key
Roger wrote: Frank: Are these statements a result of experimental observations, or speculation based on solubility product calculations? Both. Actually, enough CO2 is absorbed into the water just being exposed to the air. To get more CO2 into the water, bubble air through the water. The

CStestimony about Acne Rosecia

2001-03-24 Thread Bill Fernald
Dear Bill A few days ago, a dear friend of ours submitted an order for some silver wire for replacement of our electrodes, and she { Portia Battista, Also living here in Vegas } Related to you my apparent success, at least at this point of being free of the virus causing acne rosecia. First, let

Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use

2001-03-24 Thread michael murray
Try a search for 'alcohol inhalation therapy' since it is in professional practice for much the same purpose as I've shown. --- Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz wrote: This is interesting Michael, Do you have links to further information. Ivan. - Original Message - From: michael

CSAction Needed THIS WEEK to Kill Clinton Privacy Regulations That Give Government Full Control of Your Medical Records

2001-03-24 Thread John Draper
from: http://www.mercola.com/2001/mar/24/privacy.htm Action Needed THIS WEEK to Kill Clinton Privacy Regulations That Give Government Full Control of Your Medical Records Thanks to all of your responses in Feb., we have postponed the Clinton administration's leftover medical privacy

CSSeparating ions from colloids

2001-03-24 Thread Jon J. Brooks, M.D.
If, in fact, a solution with mostly small colloids is approaching the ideal, then centrifuging the critters seemed to make sense. Not surprisingly I wound up with a collodial solution with a lovely TE and much less conductance while the other (ionic) had similar conductance with little TE.

Re: CSAnnoying More Power Boys

2001-03-24 Thread Tony Cahill
Here here! We all have the unique opportunity to witness the scrambled fragments of scientific investigation being assembled into a cohesive argument! Moreso the adverseries may applaud themselves for their innovative and independent points of view. Ultimately I'm sure they will all end up the

Re: CSzappers

2001-03-24 Thread Tony Moody
Roger. I haven't built any but I've helped to maintain some Rife/Bare devices. This consists of a signal generator driving a CB radio which feeds into a tuner and then into a linear amp using an argon tube as an antenna. Thus the frequency from the generator is emitted by the tube. Tony

CSSILVER-BASED AIR FILTRATION SCHEMES

2001-03-24 Thread BROOKS BRADLEY
Some years ago, while addressing a special problem (military-based) posed by a specific requirementI and another colleague devised a rather interesting approach for addressing pathogenically-contaminated air.. The requirement was for an economical means of

Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use

2001-03-24 Thread Black
Betty, I love your typo- it made my day. Nancy... - Original Message - From: epmoon5...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 6:13 PM Subject: Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use Hi from a ;newbe that is old enough to

CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread Kehoe
Just got a virus alert from the last post from Black Anyone else get it??? CK -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or-

CSLes Miserables

2001-03-24 Thread RAINISAGE
Rented the movie last night. Couldn't help but think that if Cosette's mom would have had cs she would have been fine. -Hanan (sorry, it seemed a bit slow on the list right now) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or

Re: CSRe: saturated solution

2001-03-24 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/24/01 12:35:39 PM EST, fr...@strsoft.com writes: Frank: Are these statements a result of experimental observations, or speculation based on solubility product calculations? Both. Actually, enough CO2 is absorbed into the water just being exposed to the air. To get

Re: CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread Tom Bassett
Yes on Virus alert..!! Tom Bassett - Original Message - From: Kehoe ke...@ticon.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 5:42 PM Subject: CSVirus Alerrt Just got a virus alert from the last post from Black Anyone else get it??? CK -- The silver-list is a

CSWhat Promotes/Suppresses Ozone Generation During HVAC CS Production

2001-03-24 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 3/24/01 5:42:35 PM EST, b...@utopiatexas.com writes: Subj: Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use Date: 3/24/01 5:42:35 PM EST From: b...@utopiatexas.com (Bill Fernald) To:rogalt...@aol.com If you let the electrode arc to the water, you

Re: CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread Grant Mckenzie
Yep: Norton picked up KAKWORM, BUT not sure who it was attached to as I deleted before examining..Was attached to some email with header about Personal experience update on nebulizer humidifier use Grant.. Kehoe wrote: Just got a virus alert from the

Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use

2001-03-24 Thread Grant Mckenzie
I guess Black is where the virus came from.. Grant.. Black wrote: This file: Unknown0af8.data was infected with: WScript.KakWorm.dr virus. The file was deleted by Norton AntiVirus. Saturday, March 24, 2001 16:38 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for

Re: CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread Harvey Flatbush
At 07:16 PM 3/24/01 -0500, you wrote: Yes on Virus alert..!! Tom Bassett I use Eudora rather than Outlook Express. No virus this time. I have read where some of the viruses are confined to Outlook Express. Harvey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal

Re: CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread Ishak
Yes, kak worm. I just delete the whole thing rather than repair as suggested by the virusware. I found it resided in a few files.. Ishak At 04:42 PM 3/24/01 -0600, you wrote: Just got a virus alert from the last post from Black Anyone else get it??? CK -- The silver-list is a moderated

Re: CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread Ishak
I use Eudora too and got that alert from Norton 2001. It halted my computer to do the needed. It's a kak.dr and in Windows/temp/eud43 and 45. I just deleted the whole thing rather than repair as recom'd Ishak At 05:01 PM 3/24/01 -0800, you wrote: I use Eudora rather than Outlook Express. No

Re: CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread Lynda Khula
I found the virus in my machine and deleted it from temp internet files,,, is it anywhere else, thanks for the help - Original Message - From: Ishak isha...@indo.net.id To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:13 PM Subject: Re: CSVirus Alerrt Yes, kak worm. I

Re: CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread David Reese
Me too!!! Wasn't Black the same guy we got the last one from. My apologies to Black if my memory is foggy. Dave Kehoe wrote: Just got a virus alert from the last post from Black Anyone else get it??? CK -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.

Re: CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread Nick Grant
yup, just deleted it. Tracy - Original Message - From: Kehoe ke...@ticon.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 25 March 2001 10:42 Subject: CSVirus Alerrt Just got a virus alert from the last post from Black Anyone else get it??? CK -- The silver-list is a moderated forum

Re: CSLiving Waters

2001-03-24 Thread Wong111
Why can't you just pour water thru a funnel. Would't this be vortex(ed) water? wong In a message dated 03/21/2001 1:43:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, uri...@yahoo.com writes: The following article recently published in Positive Health , gives a brief introduction to Vortex Technology now

Re: CSSolubility of silver in water.

2001-03-24 Thread Russ Rosser
http://www.burnsurgery.org/Betaweb/Modules/silver/section3.htm ...seems to indicate that colloidal silver is a better silver delivery system than proteins, salts, or sulfadiazine; it's highly biocidal, nontoxic, noninflammatory, promotes healing and allows no bacterial resistance--UNLIKE the

Re: CSSILVER-BASED AIR FILTRATION SCHEMES

2001-03-24 Thread Dean T. Miller
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:26:10 -0800, BROOKS BRADLEY liat...@flash.net wrote: The most successful, from among several approaches, turned out to be the implementation of a bubbling scheme.wherein the air-to-be-treated was, simply, bubbled through (from near the bottom of the fluid container) a

CSOT RESPONSE TO Re: CSSeparating ions from colloids

2001-03-24 Thread BROOKS BRADLEY
Dear Dr. Brooks, Some years past we conducted some rather extensive evaluations (on a series of volunteers) involving protocols for dysmenorrheadetermining the most effective substance, BY FAR, to be wild amaranth seed

CSCORRECTION..LAST POST.

2001-03-24 Thread BROOKS BRADLEY
Spelling error correction-should be hypochondriacus, not hypochrodiacus. Apologies proffered..Excuse..Severe Senility. Brooks Bradley.. Jon J. Brooks, M.D. wrote: If, in fact, a solution

Re: CS and mice and now my chooks

2001-03-24 Thread Judith Thamm
Yes I've tried putting CS in their water over a long period. I have a retirement village of Old English Game - once my blue boy died the old girls are gradually going too. I have more breeds than I can cope with - so they are going as their eggs are too small. The Indian Game produce a bigger

Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #351

2001-03-24 Thread Judith Thamm
Silica Tissue Salts 6X - a very inexpensive homoeopathic remedy - can be taken every half hour for acute conditions. They are used as a toxic eliminator, for toxic accumulations, styes, boils and pus formations. I've used them to clear mucous in chest problems before. The other thing which

Re: CS and mice and now my chooks

2001-03-24 Thread Judith Thamm
Dear Nancy, I have not heard of Albon - is it recognised for organic use? Judith. Judith, do you use Albon on the chicks for coccidiosis? That clears it up fine in dogs, pups. Nancy... - Original Message - I have one very spry chook that never seems to clear up coccidiosis

Re: CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread Gaston
Yes, I did get it as well. Norton picked it up before causing any damage. Gaston - Original Message - From: Kehoe ke...@ticon.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 4:42 PM Subject: CSVirus Alerrt Just

Re: CSSILVER-BASED AIR FILTRATION SCHEMES

2001-03-24 Thread Itssuzy2
Dean, couple of times this winter, we have sprayed the furnace filters with CS, just to see what happened. The air spelled a little fresher, or maybe we just thought it did. We were curious to see if it would have any impact on the air quality as it left the furnace. We didn't find a way to

Re: CSSolubility of silver in water.

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
- Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com Ivan: My reasoning was that since ~27 volts are applied across the electrodes, electrochemical water reactions will dominate the individual electrode reactions. So which of these water electrochemical reactions will set the potential at

Re: CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread Judith Thamm
Yes. I've deleted it. Judith. - Original Message - From: Kehoe To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 8:12 AM Subject: CSVirus Alerrt Just got a virus alert from the last post from Black Anyone else get it??? CK -- The silver-list is a moderated

Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
- Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com Ivan: Do you think that the elecrtric arc generation of CS produces much O3-? I don't smell any ozone during my HVAC CS production. Roger I guess it depends upon the size of the arc Roger. The smell test is not a good indicator of ozone

Re: CSTyndall yet clear

2001-03-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
- Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com Ivan: I have to tell you that with my HVAC CS, I can see (and so can 'Ol Bob) sparklers with a laser. Is that what you mean by grainy Tyndall? Roger Imagine a TE composed entirely of sparklies, or as someone once described it, 'a beam of

Re: CSVirus Alerrt

2001-03-24 Thread bvjones
Ditto here. I thought Mike D had put in a fix for it already. Yikes, what an ugly bug showed up on my screen. But not for long. Brita. - Original Message - From: Judith Thamm galing...@chariot.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 1:25 AM Subject: Re: CSVirus