Two SM browser questions
Just installed SM2. Sure opens faster than 1.x. nice. I would like to know how to make a couple of settings on the browser interface. 1) In sidebar, how do I add another search engine? 2) How do I get SM2 browser to open without the sidebar as the default open interface? Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Two SM browser questions
HeavyDuty wrote: Just installed SM2. Sure opens faster than 1.x. nice. I would like to know how to make a couple of settings on the browser interface. 1) In sidebar, how do I add another search engine? 2) How do I get SM2 browser to open without the sidebar as the default open interface? Thank you. Thank you both. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
ISP passowrd log-on problems
SM2, WinXP Pro SP3 I my SM2, when I connect to an ISP that requires username/password info, SM2 does not present the various username/password options as it does in SM1,8. For instance, on two of my webmail ISPs, i have four each mail accounts. On one, the last account I used populates to the the log-on windows. On this site with SM1,8, all the account names would open up a window that I could choose between. On another site, no choice is offered. When I type the first letter of an account, any account with that first letter is offered for my choice. In SM1.8, when I accessed that site, all the options appeared with prompting. Is this a bug, a feature, or is there a setting I need to learn? The user agent is the default RealUA, as it is in my SM1.8 Apropos of maybe nothing, sniffer sites identify SM2 as SM 1.9. Hmmm. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: ISP passowrd log-on problems
Jens Hatlak wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: I my SM2, when I connect to an ISP that requires username/password info, SM2 does not present the various username/password options as it does in SM1,8. The new form manager behaves differently. You can access the list of available accounts per site by clicking into a login field twice or using the down key inside it. Apropos of maybe nothing, sniffer sites identify SM2 as SM 1.9. Hmmm. SM 2 uses Gecko (rendering engine) 1.9.1.4. Some sniffers do not get the difference. HTH Jens That's not the way it works for me. I just tested your recommendation. On the earthlink webmail page, no amount of clicking or double clicking drops down or opens anything. No down arrow in view. On the Paetec webmail page, a single left click opens open the complete list for selection. As mentioned a couple threads above, no consistency and unreliable functionality of this feature. I am sticking with 1.18 for the while. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: ISP passowrd log-on problems Minor correction.
HeavyDuty wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: I my SM2, when I connect to an ISP that requires username/password info, SM2 does not present the various username/password options as it does in SM1,8. The new form manager behaves differently. You can access the list of available accounts per site by clicking into a login field twice or using the down key inside it. Apropos of maybe nothing, sniffer sites identify SM2 as SM 1.9. Hmmm. SM 2 uses Gecko (rendering engine) 1.9.1.4. Some sniffers do not get the difference. HTH Jens That's not the way it works for me. I just tested your recommendation. On the earthlink webmail page, no amount of clicking or double clicking drops down or opens anything. No down arrow in view. On the Paetec webmail page, a single left click opens open the complete list for selection. As mentioned a couple threads above, no consistency and unreliable functionality of this feature. I am sticking with 1.18 for the while. I is two clicks that drops down the PW window at the Paetec page. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
wrap issue when replying
SM 1.1.17, Win XP Pro SP3 I received several messages from a particular sender. When viewed in the in-box screen, the sender's text wrapped to form nice paragraphs. View message reveals that the original message is in plain text and not html. But when I selected reply and opened the compose window, the original text was quoted as one line of text a mile (1.6 kilometers) long! Is there some setting to force quoted text (or for that matter composed text) to wrap at 60 (72) characters? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: wrap issue when replying
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: SM 1.1.17, Win XP Pro SP3 I received several messages from a particular sender. When viewed in the in-box screen, the sender's text wrapped to form nice paragraphs. View message reveals that the original message is in plain text and not html. But when I selected reply and opened the compose window, the original text was quoted as one line of text a mile (1.6 kilometers) long! Is there some setting to force quoted text (or for that matter composed text) to wrap at 60 (72) characters? As a first draft, yes: Edit | Rewrap in the composition window. That certainly does the trick. The setting for line length is at edit Edit | Mail Newsgroups | Composition: Wrap plain text messages at nn characters. I think you meant to type Edit |PREFERENCES | mail Newsgroups | Composition: Wrap plain text messages at nn characters. And that also works. But if the source is sloppy, the results may also be sloppy. For example, if paragraphs are not separated by an extra return (a blank line), SeaMonkey (like Mozilla before it) will wrap them together as one paragraph. Also, if the quote marks in the original are wrong, SeaMonkey (like Mozilla before it) doesn't think to correct them. Thus: This is a quoted reply that is mismarked. will be treated as two separate authors. Often when you have a single long line with one quote mark, SeaMonkey (like Mozilla before it) will rewrap with one quote mark on the first line and leave the other lines unmarked. You can manually enter the quote marks and rewrap again, but it's an extra step. And finally, some HTML mails will be treated as if they had returns after every line, so rewrapping will introduce extra blank lines within paragraphs: This is an example of what I'm talking about. Thank you for the explanation as to why, from time to time in my replies, the line-up of the quoted text is so odd. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Off the subject: Where is Peter Potamus?
For many years Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo has been a constant mainstay and very helpful, if sometimes cranky, contributor to this news group. Since April 29, he has not been part of the fray, as far as I can tell. Is he OK...Peter, are you OK? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Off the subject: Where is Peter Potamus?
Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: For many years Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo has been a constant mainstay and very helpful, if sometimes cranky, contributor to this news group. Since April 29, he has not been part of the fray, as far as I can tell. Is he OK...Peter, are you OK? He posted yesterday in snews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.test.multimedia multiple times in fact OK. Thanks. So how do I enable the security protocol for snews://secnews.netscape.com etc? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default e-mail client contest.
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Daniel wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Daniel wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Seamonkey 1.1.16 Win XP Pro SP3 WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1. For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, how will that affect Seamonkey? It will have no effect of SeaMonkey.just that every time you try to send an email, you will be using Outlook (with all its virus, worm, trogan permitting problems!!), unless you specifically select SM. Not a good idea, if you ask me. Daniel So, are you saying that except when I am using seamonkey and sending/replying/forwarding e-mail from within it, that any other time I click on an e-mail address link, it will start outlook? If you are using SeaMonkey and want to send an e-mail, SeaMonkey has the facility to send an e-mail, i.e. it's the one program, so there is no need for Windows to start the default program. At any other time, when you click on an e-mail address, the system WILL start the default e-mail program. If Outlook is the default, that's what gets started. Daniel thats sort of correct. Because SM is an all in one package, if you click on an email link in the browser, then it will start the SM mail editor. Even if you have another email program set as the default. Well, that gives me some comfort to create a MSO Outlook default work-a-round. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default e-mail client contest.
Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard: Seamonkey 1.1.16 Win XP Pro SP3 WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1. For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, how will that affect Seamonkey? Which version of X4 do you have? Standard includes WP Mail, so why would it want MSO 2007 as the default? Are you sure you're not confusing the AB? Try looking under Tools, Settings, Environment, In the Address Book window, choose WordPerfect Address Book. Terry R. Why would WP want MSO Outlook? I have no idea. Setting in WP is the default address book: WordPerfect Address Book. I am waiting for some advice from the WP NG. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default e-mail client contest.
Daniel wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Seamonkey 1.1.16 Win XP Pro SP3 WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1. For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, how will that affect Seamonkey? It will have no effect of SeaMonkey.just that every time you try to send an email, you will be using Outlook (with all its virus, worm, trogan permitting problems!!), unless you specifically select SM. Not a good idea, if you ask me. Daniel So, are you saying that except when I am using seamonkey and sending/replying/forwarding e-mail from within it, that any other time I click on an e-mail address link, it will start outlook? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Slightly off subject: Question about file posting sites
JeffM wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: After I learned what the search name was for what I wanted (file hosting), I searched and tested 15 sites and concluded that bigfiles.com met my needs best. Very simple interface and not much advertising. Also, after a ten second delay, very easy to down load. It doesn't sound like you can **deep-link** to an image but, instead people have to go to a **page**. That sucks. Jeff, I am not parking an image, but a file to download. Of all the sites I viewed and tested, bigfilez.com (previously I missed-spelled that) is the easiest site to operate for a recipient. Yes, it would be nice to go to a link and immediately and automatically start a download, but, the file hosting sites are free (mostly) public sites that sustain themselves with ads. Until I find a for-pay file hosting site that provides the automatic experience, or I start my own domain web site, I think the people I send to bigfilez.com will tolerate and download what I want them to retrieve with little irritation and inconvenience. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Slightly off subject: Question about file posting sites
Anybody know of an internet file posting site? I can use imageshack.com to post and share out an image file, but I am wondering about a place to upload to and then place a link in an e-mail where others can download a file. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Slightly off subject: Question about file posting sites
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Anybody know of an internet file posting site? I can use imageshack.com to post and share out an image file, but I am wondering about a place to upload to and then place a link in an e-mail where others can download a file. rapidshare.com is one of the first places to look, otherwise, you might want to look at this site: http://www.filehoster.info/filehoster it lists tons of possible places. I got that from Barry, another poster. A big thanks goes to him for that. Thanks Peter, I'll do some research and testing. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Just curious about error 4.1.2
NoOp wrote: On 03/24/2009 05:50 PM, HeavyDuty wrote: SM 1.1.15, WinXP Pro SP3 Just curious, I was sending a simple very small text e-mail. After a minute of sending but no completion, I got an error message that said the smtp server replied error 4.1.2, and recipient domain not found. Actually it was probably a 450 error with a 4.1.2 Enhanced Mail System Status (for humans) of what is going on. Since I was replying to a known sender, I neither mistyped nor missent. I called my ISP to find out what error 4.1.2 was. The support guy said he had no idea and besides it was an error code generated by my e-mail client, not the isp. He should have figured out that it was a 450 error: 450 Requested mail action not taken: mailbox unavailable So, did seamonkey generate this error code or did it get it from my isp and patch it into the error window? Your ISP generated the message. After closing the error window, I just hit send again in the compose window and, after some hesitation, it went through. That is because '4' error codes are Persistent Transient Failures. The receiving end may have experienced a hiccup, temporary service disruption etc. I am still wanting know what error code 4.1.2 is all about. I /think/ it comes from an internet code protocol standard, but I could not find it. Thanks. This might help: http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/05/21/smtp-replies.html and particularly: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1893.txt 4.X.X Persistent Transient Failure A persistent transient failure is one in which the message as sent is valid, but some temporary event prevents the successful sending of the message. Sending in the future may be successful. X.1.X Addressing Status The address status reports on the originator or destination address. It may include address syntax or validity. These errors can generally be corrected by the sender and retried. X.1.2 Bad destination system address The destination system specified in the address does not exist or is incapable of accepting mail. For Internet mail names, this means the address portion to the right of the @ is invalid for mail. This codes is only useful for permanent failures. Thanks to all for the information and explanation. I'll pass this along to my ISP tech support BUT, it will be a waste of time. The ones I talk to seem to have almost no technical training or knowledge and, even though Peter suggests speaking to a higher-up, it is impossible. I've tried this on numerous occasions over many years. Of note, the tech support for this company is in Columbus, Ohio, not exported off shore. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Just curious about error 4.1.2
SM 1.1.15, WinXP Pro SP3 Just curious, I was sending a simple very small text e-mail. After a minute of sending but no completion, I got an error message that said the smtp server replied error 4.1.2, and recipient domain not found. Since I was replying to a known sender, I neither mistyped nor missent. I called my ISP to find out what error 4.1.2 was. The support guy said he had no idea and besides it was an error code generated by my e-mail client, not the isp. So, did seamonkey generate this error code or did it get it from my isp and patch it into the error window? After closing the error window, I just hit send again in the compose window and, after some hesitation, it went through. I am still wanting know what error code 4.1.2 is all about. I /think/ it comes from an internet code protocol standard, but I could not find it. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Just curious about error 4.1.2
Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: SM 1.1.15, WinXP Pro SP3 Just curious, I was sending a simple very small text e-mail. After a minute of sending but no completion, I got an error message that said the smtp server replied error 4.1.2, and recipient domain not found. Since I was replying to a known sender, I neither mistyped nor missent. I called my ISP to find out what error 4.1.2 was. The support guy said he had no idea and besides it was an error code generated by my e-mail client, not the isp. So, did seamonkey generate this error code or did it get it from my isp and patch it into the error window? After closing the error window, I just hit send again in the compose window and, after some hesitation, it went through. I am still wanting know what error code 4.1.2 is all about. I /think/ it comes from an internet code protocol standard, but I could not find it. Thanks. Hmmm, the entries I find for error 4.1.2 are linux or gcc (compiler) related. You sure about that number? Yes about the numbers. Where did you find that definition/coe listing? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: About NSCopy and NSMail
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Win XP Pro SP3 SM 1.1.14 Today I got a send error stating that my message could not be copied to the sent box. When looking at local settings\temp I observed iterations of NSCopy.tmp and NSCopy1.tmp. Both with 0 bits/bytes. check your settings: edit, mail newsgroups account settings, select the account, and under Copies Folders, make sure that everything is pointing to the correct folder. And look very closely because what looks correct, really isn't. Peter, In each of my 10 mail accounts/copies and folders/ all I have is the name of the mail boxes (sent, drafts, templates), under the account name. Example: under the account Heavy Duty, in the window for sent, it reports Heavy Duty. These are all correct. I can find no suggestion for a path path that goes to documents and settings\ (username)\local settings\temp. That is the directory where these NS*.* show up. Just now as I was attempting to send out an e-mail, it failed with this message: unable to save message as draft. (I think because the message on the screen had hit the time-out before holding as a draft) Unable to open the temporary file Documents and Settings\(username)\temp\nsmail.pdf. Check your temporary directory settings. When I looked in the temp file, there was a nsmail.eml file and an nscopy.tmp file both timed to the present/current date/time. Each file was a little less than 2KB. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: About NSCopy and NSMail
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Win XP Pro SP3 SM 1.1.14 Today I got a send error stating that my message could not be copied to the sent box. When looking at local settings\temp I observed iterations of NSCopy.tmp and NSCopy1.tmp. Both with 0 bits/bytes. check your settings: edit, mail newsgroups account settings, select the account, and under Copies Folders, make sure that everything is pointing to the correct folder. And look very closely because what looks correct, really isn't. Peter, In each of my 10 mail accounts/copies and folders/ all I have is the name of the mail boxes (sent, drafts, templates), under the account name. Example: under the account Heavy Duty, in the window for sent, it reports Heavy Duty. These are all correct. I can find no suggestion for a path path that goes to documents and settings\ (username)\local settings\temp. That is the directory where these NS*.* show up. Just now as I was attempting to send out an e-mail, it failed with this message: unable to save message as draft. (I think because the message on the screen had hit the time-out before holding as a draft) Unable to open the temporary file Documents and Settings\(username)\temp\nsmail.pdf. Check your temporary directory settings. When I looked in the temp file, there was a nsmail.eml file and an nscopy.tmp file both timed to the present/current date/time. Each file was a little less than 2KB. did you follow the instructions I gave: Edit, Mail Newsgroups Account Settings, select the account and under Copies Folders? It sure does't sound like it. I thought I followed your directions. Is this screen shot what you were expecting? http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smcopiesfolders.jpg ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How Big Can a Mail Attachment Be?
Martin Feitag wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb: W. Watson wrote: I've found that my SM mailer will not accept anything over 10M (See Subject). However, I've recently gotten 18M wmv files from others. I guess it's all about one's ISP? Yeah I don't think there's any practical SM limit, it's up to your and the recipients ISP and any in between systems. However with files that large you should learn how to break them up into pieces. There's standard machinery and standards for doing that. You: encode the pieces -- UUencode or Yenc break the file into pieces -- about 1-2MB each calculate and prepare additiona error correcting pieces Send the pieces as a series of separate messages. The recipient: - collects the pieces. - If needed uses the error correcting pieces to correct the main segments. - decode segments - rebuilds the original file yes this ist an ISP limit. Nevertheless, keep in mind that FTP was invented for large file-transfers, not email. People should stop mailing big files but rather upload them somewhere and email a link to the destination. Are there ftp sites one can upload to? How does one go about sending a file to an FTP site? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: About NSCopy and NSMail
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Win XP Pro SP3 SM 1.1.14 Today I got a send error stating that my message could not be copied to the sent box. When looking at local settings\temp I observed iterations of NSCopy.tmp and NSCopy1.tmp. Both with 0 bits/bytes. check your settings: edit, mail newsgroups account settings, select the account, and under Copies Folders, make sure that everything is pointing to the correct folder. And look very closely because what looks correct, really isn't. Peter, In each of my 10 mail accounts/copies and folders/ all I have is the name of the mail boxes (sent, drafts, templates), under the account name. Example: under the account Heavy Duty, in the window for sent, it reports Heavy Duty. These are all correct. I can find no suggestion for a path path that goes to documents and settings\ (username)\local settings\temp. That is the directory where these NS*.* show up. Just now as I was attempting to send out an e-mail, it failed with this message: unable to save message as draft. (I think because the message on the screen had hit the time-out before holding as a draft) Unable to open the temporary file Documents and Settings\(username)\temp\nsmail.pdf. Check your temporary directory settings. When I looked in the temp file, there was a nsmail.eml file and an nscopy.tmp file both timed to the present/current date/time. Each file was a little less than 2KB. did you follow the instructions I gave: Edit, Mail Newsgroups Account Settings, select the account and under Copies Folders? It sure does't sound like it. I thought I followed your directions. Is this screen shot what you were expecting? http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smcopiesfolders.jpg yes it is. Now, is this message a posting to a newsgroup or an email message? Peter, Thanks for your continued interest. I think you are asking about what I was sending by what mechanism. This is all about sending e-mails. I have had this happen a number of times when sending an html e-mail message with a pdf attachment to multiple recipients. I have posted my frustrations about this in the past to this NG . The particular circumstances in the last two days consist of sending to both multiple recipients in html with a pdf attachment AND sending a plain text message with a pdf attachment to two persons. As you can see, I have gotten a variety of different error messages. What ever is going on is going in the ...\temp subdirectory and concerns various NS*.* temporary files. Sometimes they must not get made, sometimes they get reduced to 0 bytes, or get corrupted, and sometimes they are not deleted after sending. Does this provide enough detail? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: About NSCopy and NSMail
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: ok, lets try a few things: -- Compact the folders -- under File -- if that doesn't work, then close SM, and delete all the *.msf files for that account. -- if that doesn't work, then Edit, Preferences, Mail Newsgroups, Composition, and on the top right, is something about automatically saving. Uncheck it. Thanks Peter, I am on it first thing in the AM. I am in Chicago, IL US GMT -6.00 +1.00 for Daylight Saving Time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
About NSCopy and NSMail
Win XP Pro SP3 SM 1.1.14 Today I got a send error stating that my message could not be copied to the sent box. When looking at local settings\temp I observed iterations of NSCopy.tmp and NSCopy1.tmp. Both with 0 bits/bytes. I also have had a lot of trouble sending out multiple recipient e-mails with attachment because NSMail*.tmp either gets scrambled or will not be automatically deleted and therefore SM refuses to let me send. The message is can not attach files The files mentioned are a combination of jpgs embedded in a html composed e-mail and an attachment, usually a pdf I an trying to send. After that, the jpgs sometimes disappear from the e-mail compose page itself, leaving an empty insert window. I always have to cancel the send. I am guessing that means wherever (elsewhere) SM assembles the e-mail is also messed up. The e-mail also cannot be saved as a draft or template. Sometimes I have to close out of SM mail client altogether before I can manually delete these tmp files. Once the .tmps are gone, I can start over again/continue. I do not think it is something to work around (except save files first as drafts or templates--which I do), but I think it is a bug. Have these NS^.tmp issues been addressed someplace? Will Seamonkey 2x handle smtp mail differently? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML file question
JeffM wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: I have created an HTML file using composer. Does anyone know to drop an *.HTML file into Craigslist? Upload it to the space you ISP gives you or get a Blogger.com account. Within your ad, link to it that. (I wish more people would use a similar technique rather than sending HTML pages via email.) Thanks. I created a site and with much effort posted what I wanted. Almost makes me want to start my own domain. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML file question
rjk wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: I have created an HTML file using composer. Does anyone know to drop an *.HTML file into Craigslist? click source Ctl A Copy (the data) when in CL, just PASTE IT Well, it did not work in Craig's List (maybe illegal tags?), but it did work (kind'a, good enough)when I created a blog page at blogger.com. Thanks for the help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
HTML file question
I have created an HTML file using composer. Does anyone know to drop an *.HTML file into Craigslist? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Removing old sender name.
Martin Feitag wrote: HeavyDuty schrieb: Seamonkey 1.1.14 I used to use an e-mail sender address of username-1. I do not any more. I still use the email account, but with username1 instead. How do I delete username-1 from the list of names that appear when I send an e-mail. Open Seamonkey Mail. Open up the preferences for MailNewsgroup-Accounts. Select your account by clicking on it. There's a button to manage identityies at the bottom right. Click on it to add/delete/modify your identity. regards Martin Thank you very much. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Removing old sender name.
Seamonkey 1.1.14 I used to use an e-mail sender address of username-1. I do not any more. I still use the email account, but with username1 instead. How do I delete username-1 from the list of names that appear when I send an e-mail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Newsgroup subscriptions keeps disappearing
Seamonkey 1.1.14, WIN XP SP3 One of my newsgroup listings on the left pane keeps losing all its subscriptions. The newsgroup happens to be to msnews.microsoft.com. It has been there for years and subscriptions come and go as I add and delete. I always refresh the subscription list when ever I add or remove. Yesterday, I noticed all my subscriptions under the MS newsgroup were gone (no + next to the NG name/no subscription names under it). I went into the account, added back one subscription, which was OK. But, later, I don't know whether it was when I re-started Seamonkey or restarted the computer, but the subscription was gone again. This has happen four times now. I have deleted the NG and added a new one for ms. Too early to report that the new one is stable. I am wondering what could cause the repeated loss of the subscriptions? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsgroup subscriptions keeps disappearing
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Seamonkey 1.1.14, WIN XP SP3 One of my newsgroup listings on the left pane keeps losing all its subscriptions. The newsgroup happens to be to msnews.microsoft.com. It has been there for years and subscriptions come and go as I add and delete. I always refresh the subscription list when ever I add or remove. Yesterday, I noticed all my subscriptions under the MS newsgroup were gone (no + next to the NG name/no subscription names under it). I went into the account, added back one subscription, which was OK. But, later, I don't know whether it was when I re-started Seamonkey or restarted the computer, but the subscription was gone again. This has happen four times now. I have deleted the NG and added a new one for ms. Too early to report that the new one is stable. I am wondering what could cause the repeated loss of the subscriptions? others have complained about similar problems with newsgroups, especially the MS ones. Then again, I've never experienced any such problems. Thanks Peter, How does this happen(rhetorical question)?, I know not. I venture it may be some combination of intermediate/temporary RAM memory failure and writing back to news and/or some other HDD files. This happened on an Intel Centrino Core Dual computer. There have been suggestions and suspicious that this technology creates unexpected results. The newly created MS NG account is stable, at least for today. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How does this work?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until you click on it. The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and its that one that starts right away. What happens in a test profile? Thanks Peter, What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your help. If you have figured this out, and so I can deal with this in the future, were you saying in your previous post to hit F11 as soon as I see the opening web page to stop the WMP version from starting? That might be helpful if I ever visit this site again (not likely) but not if I stubble on another web site that does the same thing without my anticipation or and without warning. Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this one does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing control over the computer is my principal concern. No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping someone knows how to defeat an attacking video. Thanks for your help. I didn't say that at all about F11. You said you get a full screen video captured my computer so I interpreted that as saying you get the video in Full Screen mode. Hitting F11 is a toggle between full screen and normal screen mode. From the browser, hit F11 and see what happens. Now reading what you're saying, this is not your problem. So, you have to tell me what you mean by an 'attacking' video? Yes, on that site [and on others], the video plays automatically. Thats the way the site was designed and the way wmp works. Unfortunately, as far as I know, there is no way to turn off the automatic start of a wmp video without hitting the stop button on the video controls. So, maybe you need to give a little more info about what exactly is your problem. F11 toggles nothing. The video plays full screen. There are no video controls displayed to hit the stop button. If there is a stop button on this (or any other) web site and the video autoplays instantaneously, I doubt that I would know in time to stop it. In this case, WMP does not start in a visible way. The monitor screen just drops to black and a few seconds later the video starts. The questions remains, how to a) stop an instantaneous video from running without my explicit action to start it, or how to stop such a video during play. All I want is to be able to regain control of the computer and not have to wait until a video ends or until I shut down the computer. lets try it this way. This is what I see when I visit that site: http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1678/wmpah0.jpg On the bottom right is a flash vid that won't start until I click it. On the bottom left is a wmp vid that starts automatically when I go to that page. As you can see, I have controls on the bottom of the vid to stop, start, and so forth. Is this what you see? If not, then post an image somewhere of what you get and we'll go from there. Yes Peter, That is what I see for less than two seconds. Not enough time for me to get the cursor to that (sub)menu bar and hit stop. Certainly not enough time to even know what or where to look if I am a first time visitor. Of course, by now, I am not a first timer. Nonetheless, once this video starts, I cannot stop it. This is NOT about this particular sales pitch on this site. I am not intentionally going back to this site again, but I have concern about this happening again on another site. That is what I am asking help about. How can I stop/escape this type of behavior (elsewhere) once it starts? I want to be able to take back control of my computer. How to do this? That is the question. well for a first timer, I'm sure that if they'd scroll down, then I'm sure they'd see where this voice was coming from, and which video was playing. Then if they click on the video controls, they could stop it. Or if they right click on it, then it would bring up the advanced controls and they can stop it from there. Why you can't figure out that some sort of video is playing, and which video is playing, I have no idea. Why you are unable to click on the vid stop button, again I have no idea. Peter, The reason you have no idea is because you will not accept what I have described. I used another computer and saw what you must be seeing. On that other computer I can F11 to toggle image size, and I can click on the left screen where this e image emanates. I can right click and stop it. But, NOT on my main computer. As I have repeatedly said, this video image emerges full screen (and not from the small left screen) with no way of controlling it at all. Since I have the same experience with IExplorer. WMPlayer is messed up.I have removed WMPlayer. As a result, the left
Re: How does this work?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until you click on it. The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and its that one that starts right away. What happens in a test profile? Thanks Peter, What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your help. If you have figured this out, and so I can deal with this in the future, were you saying in your previous post to hit F11 as soon as I see the opening web page to stop the WMP version from starting? That might be helpful if I ever visit this site again (not likely) but not if I stubble on another web site that does the same thing without my anticipation or and without warning. Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this one does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing control over the computer is my principal concern. No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping someone knows how to defeat an attacking video. Thanks for your help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How does this work?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until you click on it. The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and its that one that starts right away. What happens in a test profile? Thanks Peter, What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your help. If you have figured this out, and so I can deal with this in the future, were you saying in your previous post to hit F11 as soon as I see the opening web page to stop the WMP version from starting? That might be helpful if I ever visit this site again (not likely) but not if I stubble on another web site that does the same thing without my anticipation or and without warning. Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this one does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing control over the computer is my principal concern. No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping someone knows how to defeat an attacking video. Thanks for your help. I didn't say that at all about F11. You said you get a full screen video captured my computer so I interpreted that as saying you get the video in Full Screen mode. Hitting F11 is a toggle between full screen and normal screen mode. From the browser, hit F11 and see what happens. Now reading what you're saying, this is not your problem. So, you have to tell me what you mean by an 'attacking' video? Yes, on that site [and on others], the video plays automatically. Thats the way the site was designed and the way wmp works. Unfortunately, as far as I know, there is no way to turn off the automatic start of a wmp video without hitting the stop button on the video controls. So, maybe you need to give a little more info about what exactly is your problem. F11 toggles nothing. The video plays full screen. There are no video controls displayed to hit the stop button. If there is a stop button on this (or any other) web site and the video autoplays instantaneously, I doubt that I would know in time to stop it. In this case, WMP does not start in a visible way. The monitor screen just drops to black and a few seconds later the video starts. The questions remains, how to a) stop an instantaneous video from running without my explicit action to start it, or how to stop such a video during play. All I want is to be able to regain control of the computer and not have to wait until a video ends or until I shut down the computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How does this work?
Mark Hansen wrote: I think it's possible the problem you're seeing is the result of a problem in your profile. This is why the request to try the page in a test profile. For example, when I browse to that page, I don't see the same problem you're seeing. The page seems to work correctly. OK. I'll try a test profile and see what happens. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How does this work?
JeffM wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Seamonkey 1.1.14, WinXP Pro SP3 I received an e-mail from a professional organization that provided a link to a website. http://newsletter.swd.ca/link.php?M=98038N=220L=119F=H When I clicked the link, a full screen video captured my computer. No way to stop it (without shutting off the computer). These did not work: Ctrl Break, ctrl+alt+delete, esc, enter, tab, f1-f8, you name it, I was captive. The one I'll name is Alt+Tab. It allows you to scroll thru active Windoze tasks. Nothing is displayed except the full screen video. alt+tab does not show on the screen, so no way of tabbing between running programs. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How does this work?
Mark Hansen wrote: On 02/18/09 12:44, HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until you click on it. The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and its that one that starts right away. What happens in a test profile? Thanks Peter, What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your help. If you have figured this out, and so I can deal with this in the future, were you saying in your previous post to hit F11 as soon as I see the opening web page to stop the WMP version from starting? That might be helpful if I ever visit this site again (not likely) but not if I stubble on another web site that does the same thing without my anticipation or and without warning. Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this one does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing control over the computer is my principal concern. No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping someone knows how to defeat an attacking video. I think it's possible the problem you're seeing is the result of a problem in your profile. This is why the request to try the page in a test profile. For example, when I browse to that page, I don't see the same problem you're seeing. The page seems to work correctly. If you try it in a test profile and don't have the problem, then you can starting looking at what in your profile may be causing the problem. Thanks for your help. I tweaked WMP 11 by unchecking Rub script commands in security, and unchecking multicast stream in network. I created a new TEST profile. The same thing happens. I tried this link in IExplorer. The same phenomenon. Peter, were you able to stop the video from playing either before it started or while it was playing? If so, what did you do? Since I have no on-screen controls, I am paralyzed until it stops on its own. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How does this work?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: the one on the right is a flash player and it doesn't run until you click on it. The other one, on the left, is a wmp player and its that one that starts right away. What happens in a test profile? Thanks Peter, What happens, happens pretty fast. I do appreciate your help. If you have figured this out, and so I can deal with this in the future, were you saying in your previous post to hit F11 as soon as I see the opening web page to stop the WMP version from starting? That might be helpful if I ever visit this site again (not likely) but not if I stubble on another web site that does the same thing without my anticipation or and without warning. Beyond this specific example, once a video starts, as this one does, how to stop it without shutting down? Losing control over the computer is my principal concern. No. I have not created a test profile yet. I am hoping someone knows how to defeat an attacking video. Thanks for your help. I didn't say that at all about F11. You said you get a full screen video captured my computer so I interpreted that as saying you get the video in Full Screen mode. Hitting F11 is a toggle between full screen and normal screen mode. From the browser, hit F11 and see what happens. Now reading what you're saying, this is not your problem. So, you have to tell me what you mean by an 'attacking' video? Yes, on that site [and on others], the video plays automatically. Thats the way the site was designed and the way wmp works. Unfortunately, as far as I know, there is no way to turn off the automatic start of a wmp video without hitting the stop button on the video controls. So, maybe you need to give a little more info about what exactly is your problem. F11 toggles nothing. The video plays full screen. There are no video controls displayed to hit the stop button. If there is a stop button on this (or any other) web site and the video autoplays instantaneously, I doubt that I would know in time to stop it. In this case, WMP does not start in a visible way. The monitor screen just drops to black and a few seconds later the video starts. The questions remains, how to a) stop an instantaneous video from running without my explicit action to start it, or how to stop such a video during play. All I want is to be able to regain control of the computer and not have to wait until a video ends or until I shut down the computer. lets try it this way. This is what I see when I visit that site: http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1678/wmpah0.jpg On the bottom right is a flash vid that won't start until I click it. On the bottom left is a wmp vid that starts automatically when I go to that page. As you can see, I have controls on the bottom of the vid to stop, start, and so forth. Is this what you see? If not, then post an image somewhere of what you get and we'll go from there. Yes Peter, That is what I see for less than two seconds. Not enough time for me to get the cursor to that (sub)menu bar and hit stop. Certainly not enough time to even know what or where to look if I am a first time visitor. Of course, by now, I am not a first timer. Nonetheless, once this video starts, I cannot stop it. This is NOT about this particular sales pitch on this site. I am not intentionally going back to this site again, but I have concern about this happening again on another site. That is what I am asking help about. How can I stop/escape this type of behavior (elsewhere) once it starts? I want to be able to take back control of my computer. How to do this? That is the question. well for a first timer, I'm sure that if they'd scroll down, then I'm sure they'd see where this voice was coming from, and which video was playing. Then if they click on the video controls, they could stop it. Or if they right click on it, then it would bring up the advanced controls and they can stop it from there. Why you can't figure out that some sort of video is playing, and which video is playing, I have no idea. Why you are unable to click on the vid stop button, again I have no idea. Peter, The reason you have no idea is because you will not accept what I have described. I used another computer and saw what you must be seeing. On that other computer I can F11 to toggle image size, and I can click on the left screen where this e image emanates. I can right click and stop it. But, NOT on my main computer. As I have repeatedly said, this video image emerges full screen (and not from the small left screen) with no way of controlling it at all. Since I have the same experience with IExplorer. WMPlayer is messed up.I have removed WMPlayer. As a result, the left hand screen image on this horrible web site is empty
How does this work?
Seamonkey 1.1.14, WinXP Pro SP3 I received an e-mail from a professional organization that provided a link to a website. http://newsletter.swd.ca/link.php?M=98038N=220L=119F=H When I clicked the link, a full screen video captured my computer. No way to stop it (without shutting off the computer). These did not work: Ctrl Break, ctrl+alt+delete, esc, enter, tab, f1-f8, you name it, I was captive. How do I stop this type of behavior (besides never clocking on any link)? How do I prevent the take over of my computer when browsing or at least escape from it? Obviously AV and firewalls did not work, nor spybot/teatimer. Suggestions? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How does this work?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Seamonkey 1.1.14, WinXP Pro SP3 I received an e-mail from a professional organization that provided a link to a website. http://newsletter.swd.ca/link.php?M=98038N=220L=119F=H When I clicked the link, a full screen video captured my computer. No way to stop it (without shutting off the computer). These did not work: Ctrl Break, ctrl+alt+delete, esc, enter, tab, f1-f8, you name it, I was captive. How do I stop this type of behavior (besides never clocking on any link)? How do I prevent the take over of my computer when browsing or at least escape from it? Obviously AV and firewalls did not work, nor spybot/teatimer. Suggestions? I got no full screen video [which] captured my computer. SM opened in normal mode, and the built in wmp player played. Is that what you're talking about? When your browser opened, it opened in full screen, with no menus, etc? If so, then you didn't go all the way with the F keys. Its F11 to change it back. Also, you might want to check your javascript settings: Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Scripts Plug-ins, and uncheck Move or resize existing windows, and Raise or lower windows. Thanks Peter, Tomorrow I will apply your suggestions and see what happens. And, yes, I did not get to f11. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
chicagofan wrote: What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll] It strikes me that some of the mystery could be cleared if Chicagofan would set the Seamonkey e-mail account server settings to leave messages on the server for a day or so, so that a look at the preserved messages in webmail could show how many times a message was received in webmail, and the dates/times. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/20/09 17:34, HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Chatting with Comcast tech support on line is an act of frustration. It, of course, as Peter Potomus has repeatedly noted, the techs only script is related to Outlook Express and IE. The techs have NO IDEA about settings for any other e-mail provider besides Comcast. here, do this. Start up OE, get the instructions from them for the OE settings. Come back here, and tell us what they said. Then someone can help you from there. OK Peter, the results are in. In Outlook Express, advanced settings: Outgoing Port 25 Outgoing mail server email.mcleodusa.net X my server requires authentication X use same settings as my incoming mail server Incoming Mail Server POP3 (nameofaccount)@mcleodusa.net password x X Log on using secure pass authentication. These settings DO NOT work and produce a 421 error. I tried this on ports 25 and 587. Well, Mcleod told you to use port 25, so there no use in try port 587. It's not a magic number - for it to be useful, someone has to be listening on it. An unknown error has occurred. Account: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Server: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '421 Cannot connect to SMTP server 63.254.138.23 (63.254.138.23:25), connect error 10060', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 421, Error Number: 0x800CCC67 421 is an SMTP server error. Specifically, it is a temporary failure (generally, it means the server is too busy, but it could mean other temporary failures as well). The corrective action is usually to just try again. and it may work. What this *does* tell us is that you're talking to the SMTP server on port 25, so at least you've gotten that far. The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Server: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E Yes, this error says no one is listening on port 587, but we expected that based on what Mcleod told you :-) I tried this while on the phone with McLeodusa tech support. This is being escalated. I'll just have wait now to find out if McLeodusa and Comcast are at odds, or what. At this point, it doesn't see that Comcast is in the picture. The only thing they can do (as far as I know) is block the port, which they don't appear to be doing (or you wouldn't have gotten the 'temporary failure' error above). Then, as you have suggested, when OE works, you are someone can help translate the OE settings to Seamonkey. I think anyone will be able to help you. Before you ask, though, just take the settings they've provided and have a look at the SeaMonkey server settings dialog. I think you'll find everything right there. Stand bye. Thank you for the information and analysis. Now I have a scosh of something intelligent to discuss with McCleod. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: tand bye. I'm going out on a limb here, and tell you a story. I recently found out that some people, in certain countries, can now download hotmail into SeaMonkey Mail, without using a program such as FreePops or the webmail extension. Hotmail has now become pop3 compatible. This is great news. Now, when I did what the instructions said, I had problems. It said to Use Secure Authentication and SSL setting. When I did this, nothing would work. After fiddling around, I found a combo. For Pop access, don't select the Authentication part, and select SSL. For SMTP, select the password and user name, but use TLS. Well, thats my story. Take it for what its worth. Thanks Peter, Gotcha'. The problem for me is that I do not know which variable to fiddle with. And, while I mess with all of them one at a time, if there is more than one to tweak simultaneously, the tweak factor becomes an imponderable, or at least impractical for all the combinations. So now I am waiting on McLeod for the next round of answers. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Tom Coradeschi wrote: COMCAST does not allow outgoing SMTP traffic on port 25. If your SMTP host is set up to accept connections on port 587, they will allow that. Set your SMTP host configuration to be the same is it is when you are on your normal network (same hostname, login if required, etc). If your SMTP host is NOT set up to accept connections on 587, you will need to use COMCAST's SMTP connection (smtp.comcast.net) and authenticate yourself to that server either with your friend's credentials or, if you can have him/her do so for you, with a secondary account they have set up on your behalf. Tom, Thanks for that information. How did you come to learn this valuable piece of information? I will certainly pass this on to McLeod. What you say seems to confirm what Mark Hansen said about the 421 error indicating that it was the McLeod server sending the error. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/21/09 07:17, HeavyDuty wrote: Tom Coradeschi wrote: COMCAST does not allow outgoing SMTP traffic on port 25. If your SMTP host is set up to accept connections on port 587, they will allow that. Set your SMTP host configuration to be the same is it is when you are on your normal network (same hostname, login if required, etc). If your SMTP host is NOT set up to accept connections on 587, you will need to use COMCAST's SMTP connection (smtp.comcast.net) and authenticate yourself to that server either with your friend's credentials or, if you can have him/her do so for you, with a secondary account they have set up on your behalf. Tom, Thanks for that information. How did you come to learn this valuable piece of information? I will certainly pass this on to McLeod. What you say seems to confirm what Mark Hansen said about the 421 error indicating that it was the McLeod server sending the error. Actually, it does just the opposite. If Comcast is blocking outgoing port 25, then you would never be able to connect to the Mcleod server on that port - because Comcast would have been blocking it. Since you were able to talk to Mcleod's SMTP server on port 25, that implies Comcast is *not* blocking it. I wonder if Comcast was somehow redirecting your connection from Mcleod port 25 to Comcast's own SMTP server on port 25. You can test this by using telnet. From the run dialog, type the following: telnet email.mcleodusa.net 25 then report back the information that is presented in the window. To close that window, just type the word 'quit' and hit return. Report: telnet email.mcleodusa.net 25 Command/DOS screen opens but is blank on run command, except for flashing cursor. In due time (maybe 45 seconds the following error message: 421 Cannot connect to SMTP server 63.254.138.23, connect error 10060. Connection lost to host. Then the CMD/DOS screen reverts to a commandline cursor with previous info retained on screen. QUIT is required to go back to the Windows desktop. telnet email.mcleodusa.net 587 Screen does not go blank, rather it reports: Connecting to email.mcleodusa.net . Then (in due time) the following additional message: Could not open connection to the host on port 587. Connect failed. Then the CMD/DOS screen immediately reverts to the Windows desktop. With what I //think// I've learned during this extensive discourse in this newsgroup, may I conclude that Comcast will not pass a request for access on port 25 (blocks port 25), and McLeodusa,net is not using (blocks) port 587? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/21/09 09:30, HeavyDuty wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/21/09 07:17, HeavyDuty wrote: Tom Coradeschi wrote: COMCAST does not allow outgoing SMTP traffic on port 25. If your SMTP host is set up to accept connections on port 587, they will allow that. Set your SMTP host configuration to be the same is it is when you are on your normal network (same hostname, login if required, etc). If your SMTP host is NOT set up to accept connections on 587, you will need to use COMCAST's SMTP connection (smtp.comcast.net) and authenticate yourself to that server either with your friend's credentials or, if you can have him/her do so for you, with a secondary account they have set up on your behalf. Tom, Thanks for that information. How did you come to learn this valuable piece of information? I will certainly pass this on to McLeod. What you say seems to confirm what Mark Hansen said about the 421 error indicating that it was the McLeod server sending the error. Actually, it does just the opposite. If Comcast is blocking outgoing port 25, then you would never be able to connect to the Mcleod server on that port - because Comcast would have been blocking it. Since you were able to talk to Mcleod's SMTP server on port 25, that implies Comcast is *not* blocking it. I wonder if Comcast was somehow redirecting your connection from Mcleod port 25 to Comcast's own SMTP server on port 25. You can test this by using telnet. From the run dialog, type the following: telnet email.mcleodusa.net 25 then report back the information that is presented in the window. To close that window, just type the word 'quit' and hit return. Now another test. I can send on my earthlink server via comcast when I use port 587. This is because Comcast is not blocking port 587. This is normal. When I try to send to the earthlink server on port 25, I get the typical errors including greeting not recognized and error 10060. This is because earthlink uses port 587 and not 25. Right. Therefore, I am concluding that McLeodusa and Comcast are incompatible based on Comcast blocking port 25. That's the way it sounds, but don't give up just yet. Talk to Mcleod and let them know that Comcast is blocking port 25 and see if there is anything they can do. They probably won't, but you may as well ask anyway. I will wait to learn what McLeodusa second level tech support has to say. Good luck. If nothing else, the mystery is clearing up. Still waiting om McLeod. Thanks to everyone for your help. It's been an education. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
chicagofan wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll] Are ALL your messages duplicated and with that date, or just some? While I have not a clue, I would suspect a problem with the e-mail host. Just some I thought it was just on mail from a friend who uses Apple, but after a couple of days of just some of her messages duplicating that way, I got one from a friend who uses AOL, right behind the other one's message. Don't know if they were related, I failed to check if maybe it was a reply to one of the Apple messages. I didn't know if it was Microsoft or Apple related perhaps, since I'm the only one who doesn't use MS based e-mail [except the 1 friend using Apple]. bj Unless you are suggesting Seamonkey is problematic running under Mac OS, I doubt if there is any difference on what computer or OS messages originate. While no expert, I believe seamonkey gets the time stamp for each message from the received e-mail (which has Universal Time ) and shows it based on your computer's time clock. If your friend's computer's clock is really messed up, it would send a wrong time. I doubt any currently operating computer BIOS would default back to 1969, so it would have to be set intentionally. Seamonkey /could/ defectively not register some received e-mail. and thus would call for/accept as new the next time it queried your e-mail host, but I doubt it because of the inconsistency. I still think you are experiencing a malfunction of the e-mail host (ISP E-mail server). In the alternative, it might be some gremlin-induced by av filtering, firewall, or virus. Last possibility is RAM memory starting to go bad, and that's a reach. Adjust the Seamonkey server settings. (left click the e-mail account, left click view settings for this account, left click server settings, and change some of the server setting boxes. This should cause that part of seamonkey settings to be re-written. If it keeps up, reinstall Seamonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll] Are ALL your messages duplicated and with that date, or just some? While I have not a clue, I would suspect a problem with the e-mail host. Just some I thought it was just on mail from a friend who uses Apple, but after a couple of days of just some of her messages duplicating that way, I got one from a friend who uses AOL, right behind the other one's message. Don't know if they were related, I failed to check if maybe it was a reply to one of the Apple messages. I didn't know if it was Microsoft or Apple related perhaps, since I'm the only one who doesn't use MS based e-mail [except the 1 friend using Apple]. bj Unless you are suggesting Seamonkey is problematic running under Mac OS, I doubt if there is any difference on what computer or OS messages originate. While no expert, I believe seamonkey gets the time stamp for each message from the received e-mail (which has Universal Time ) and shows it based on your computer's time clock. If your friend's computer's clock is really messed up, it would send a wrong time. I doubt any currently operating computer BIOS would default back to 1969, so it would have to be set intentionally. sorry to say, but many people DO get messages dated 1969, including me. Furthermore, just recently I've been receiving messages dated 2033, 2050, and even 2075. Yeah me too, from /time-to-time/ pardon the pun. But that, I am assuming, is spoofing. The concern here are messages from friends, therefore presumably not spoofing spammers. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
Ray_Net wrote: chicagofan wrote: What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll] Perhaps something wrong in the headers - per exemple no Date: entry. Maybe a peek at one of the messages using View | Message Source would reveal the transmital info and show where there was a discontinuity. As Mark Hansen mentions unix reports time differently. If so, then a default before time could happen under a misfunctioning linix/unix/zenix etc smtp or pop3 server. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
MAP wrote: I have the same problem with the duplicate messages and the 12/31/1969 date. I also get duplicate message with the actual date, and this problem occurs on most of my messages in a an email folder or my inbox. It started when I was using Netscape chicagofan wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: Just FYI: On UNIX systems, time is tracked as the number of milliseconds since 1970. I can see how a time of zero adjusted for time zones could result in a displayed value of 12/31/1969. ... which implies that somewhere along the life of the message, the date didn't get set properly (or got cleared). This makes sense to me, because she's on the West Coast, and I'm on the East Coast. That somewhere along the way fits, because it doesn't happen on all of her messages. Thanks so much, I just wanted to be sure it's not something wrong with SM, since I haven't updated recently. Thanks everyone! bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11590 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11590 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ Who is your ISP? Who is your e-mail host? Do these messages come from one sender or many? Do you know who the one sender's e-mail provider and local connection (ISP) are? This might help track down some errant , busted piece of software or hardware. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
chicagofan wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: Just FYI: On UNIX systems, time is tracked as the number of milliseconds since 1970. I can see how a time of zero adjusted for time zones could result in a displayed value of 12/31/1969. ... which implies that somewhere along the life of the message, the date didn't get set properly (or got cleared). This makes sense to me, because she's on the West Coast, and I'm on the East Coast. That somewhere along the way fits, because it doesn't happen on all of her messages. Thanks so much, I just wanted to be sure it's not something wrong with SM, since I haven't updated recently. Thanks everyone! bj I sense you are finished with this, so what I will add is gratuitous. The signals that run on the internet actually run around the world, over it and under it via cables, fiber optics and satellites. West coast to east coast is irrelevant. I was just thinking if it was someone nearby, there wouldn't have been that many time changes, but I get your point about not really knowing the route any mail will take. :) Not happening on all her messages could point to a bad local dial up or broadband connection, or field mice in the office of her ISP. Eliminate your concerns for problems on your end by updating Seamonkey to 1.1.14. Click on the Seamonkey logo on the upper right hand corner of seamonkey screen. If you have broadband, the download is rapid and the install is seamless, once you double click on the downloaded file. BTW, just what parts of 606 are you a fan of? The whole city, or maybe I should say downtown. Chicago is just my *adopted* favorite city, that I have only visited on business, or brief personal trips. Love the Bears and the Cubs too. I would have moved there if the weather didn't get so cold. [I've lived in the south all my life and that was just too big an adjustment.]:) Thanks for helping me! bj Stepping out of my total anonymity for two kilobytes... Yas, yas, yas, it is cold here, down to minus 30 WCF last week. Twenty plus inches of snow in my back yard. My neighbor has at least 1000 pounds of icicles hanging off his roof and I am looking at a $1000 gas bill. Stay south, eh? You mis-pronounced two words --they are: Da' Bulz and Da' Bearz. Hey, how 'bout dem Cubz? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Chatting with Comcast tech support on line is an act of frustration. It, of course, as Peter Potomus has repeatedly noted, the techs only script is related to Outlook Express and IE. The techs have NO IDEA about settings for any other e-mail provider besides Comcast. here, do this. Start up OE, get the instructions from them for the OE settings. Come back here, and tell us what they said. Then someone can help you from there. Yes good idea. Will do. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Daniel wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Seamonkey 1.1.14 WinXP Pro SP3 hooked up to a comcast cable bb pipe. While I have posted a similar question before, there is new information from tech support at my e-mail host mcleod relating to turning off authentication. I am still struggling with using seamonkey e-mail client on Comcast when sending from my McLeodusa.net accounts. I am not a Comcast subscriber but am hooked up while visiting a friend. No matter how I send McLeod smtp e-mail out of seamonkey it fails. There is the 10060 error, an error that says smtp server mcleodusa is not accepting e-mail, the greeting failed, or an endless repetitive loop of asking for my password until I give up. McLeod tech says that McLeod does not require authentication. Apparently comcast does. Does this make sense? Here's an explanation and fix for the 10060 I found. Socket Error # 10060 Message from:a...@a.com to:b...@b.com Connect error in directly sending! Info : Socket Error # 10060 Analyse: You are on a an ISP (such as Earthlink or Mindspring) that blocks their users using any SMTP server other than their own. Solutions: To set up Earthlink, Mindspring, or your ISP's SMTP servers for your outgoing email you must click on your account settings in the email client you are using (Outlook Express, Eudora, Netscape etc.) In the SMTP (outgoing mail server) field you will enter smtp.earthlink.net (or whatever your dial up or direct access ISP's SMTP server is) as your SMTP server. You must then enter your Earthlink (or your ISP's) username and password for that mail server. In Outlook Express it is at the bottom of that same tab. You must uncheck 'My server requires authentication' and click on 'settings' to enter your Earthlink (or your ISP's) username and password. I do use the comcast smtp.comcast.net server setting I use the required port 587. I insert my usneracc...@mcleoduse.net for my smtp e-mail sender What is the Seamonkey equivalent (to outlook express) of unchecking requires authentication and still be able to enter my McLeod user account name? In Seamonkey in the outgoing smtp setup, if User and Authentication is checked, I can enter the username (and I assume that means authentication is on). When it is unchecked, no user name can be entered, and the existing one disappears. POP email retrieval works fine. When I send out of my earthlink accounts using the comcast cable, I can use the earthlink smtpauth.earthlink.net server with user and Authentication checked and my user name in the window. Thanks for any insights. Over the holiday period, I was dog sitting for my sister. I tried to set up my email account so that I could get my mail on her computer using my SeaMonkey. Setting up the account to get my mail from my normal ISP was no problem, just set it up. When I tried to set up the out-going SMTP server, I could not get anywhere, as, it seems, her ISP would not allow sending from or via another ISP, so I just set the account up to use her ISP for outgoing, but showing my real email address with-in the e-mail. Had no problems after that. HTH Daniel Thanks, Yeah, have now done the same workaround using the smtp.comcast.net server and my friend's email account in the user/authentication box. It feels a bit like spamming. I would like a clean way of doing it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: I think you misunderstood here. When connecting to comcast's SMTP server, you'll never provide your Mcleod user name and/or password. If that is the case, how is that I can send earthlink e-mail accounts using the smtpauth.earthlink.net server address while using the Comcast cable? Some providers allow 'relaying', others do not. For example: If I use my cogeco connection, I can mail 'out' using either my cogeco id or my sympatico id (user/pass). But if I use the sympatico connection, I cannot use my cogeco id. Sympatico doesn't allow 'relaying' - Cogeco does. Well, I don't know whether I am relaying when I use my earthlink server sending earthlink email using the comcast pipe. That is comcast allows. My mcleodusa account workarounds are to use the earthlink server with my account name, or the comcast server with my friend's comcast account name. I do not get challenged for a password, so I am thinking it's the mcleodusa password that's needed and automatically provided to mcleodusa by seamonkey password manager while the comcast server is passive. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Chatting with Comcast tech support on line is an act of frustration. It, of course, as Peter Potomus has repeatedly noted, the techs only script is related to Outlook Express and IE. The techs have NO IDEA about settings for any other e-mail provider besides Comcast. here, do this. Start up OE, get the instructions from them for the OE settings. Come back here, and tell us what they said. Then someone can help you from there. OK Peter, the results are in. In Outlook Express, advanced settings: Outgoing Port 25 Outgoing mail server email.mcleodusa.net X my server requires authentication X use same settings as my incoming mail server Incoming Mail Server POP3 (nameofaccount)@mcleodusa.net password x X Log on using secure pass authentication. These settings DO NOT work and produce a 421 error. I tried this on ports 25 and 587. An unknown error has occurred. Account: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Server: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '421 Cannot connect to SMTP server 63.254.138.23 (63.254.138.23:25), connect error 10060', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 421, Error Number: 0x800CCC67 The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Server: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E I tried this while on the phone with McLeodusa tech support. This is being escalated. I'll just have wait now to find out if McLeodusa and Comcast are at odds, or what. Then, as you have suggested, when OE works, you are someone can help translate the OE settings to Seamonkey. Stand bye. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Riddle me this...
John Doue wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Alwil Avast 4.8 Seamonkey 1.1.14 XP-Pro SP3. I had to uninstall Avast AV 4.8 and reinstall it. As a result of this activity, three changes happened to Seamonkey. 1) ALL my stored passwords disappeared; 2) ALL my stored and perpetual cookies disappeared; 3) My SSL settings were reset to give all warnings. Riddle me that? What does Avast have to do with Seamonkey (and why/how could it make those changes)? I was able to restore passwords/cookies by pulling up last night's backup for the xx.s file, rename the current file, rename the restored file with the current .s file name. All was returned to normal. why don't you ask them?: http://forum.avast.com/index.php I asked and was answered: Simply - avast does not make these changes to browsers, and avast never has a clue what POP mail client is being used and does not make any changes to them. avast's interaction with browsers is limited to intercepting the http calls it makes at the network level and the same goes for the unsecured POP/SMTP calls of mail clients, again at the network level. avast knows nothing of the internal working of any given browser or mail client. I think that there is a probability during the changes you were making to get the USB drive installed SeaMonkey may have had difficulty getting to the stored profile information for your browser and email client and created a new clean profile. So, if Avast did not cause this, and the timing was just coincidental, what would cause Seamonkey to burp as it did? how are we supposed to know. You gave one story to the SM support group, and another to the avast forum. Whats this all about: you were making to get the USB drive installed. Peter, Always happy to have your input. I uninstalled Avast to troubleshoot whether Avast was scanning a new USB hang-on HDD during the boot-up sequence. When connected, Windows was taking an additional minute to boot to the desk top. There was no change in the boot-up behavior with the USB HDD whether or not Avast was installed. With all respect, anything related to the hang-on drive is a red herring. The new drive had been connected for 10 days with no issues with Seamonkey. I uninstalled Avast to see if I could find the source of the elongated boot-up. Avast was not involved. Western Digital tech support stated it was Windows XP recognizing the drive and loading drivers that caused the expanded boot-up. All of this has no apparent bearing on loosing the passwords, cookies, and sll settings. So, if uninstall-install Avast is coincidental, I won't argue. Still, I'd like to understand why/how Seamonkey got scrambled. I am not sure this has some relevance but two AV I recently tried (should have noted their names) considered Seamonkey.exe as a virus and unceremoniously deleted it, with no possibility to recover it! Deleted cookies could have been considered spyware. But I have no explanation for the missing xx.s. Are you sure you did not do something to your profiles, and did you actually search all partitions for the missing files? Sometimes, Windows gets confused when you insert an external drive, and drive letters can get changed without you realizing it immediately. The only subdirectory that .s files reside is in the .slt subdirectory. There are several *.s files with several dates, one going back two years, one four years old. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Riddle me this...
Alwil Avast 4.8 Seamonkey 1.1.14 XP-Pro SP3. I had to uninstall Avast AV 4.8 and reinstall it. As a result of this activity, three changes happened to Seamonkey. 1) ALL my stored passwords disappeared; 2) ALL my stored and perpetual cookies disappeared; 3) My SSL settings were reset to give all warnings. Riddle me that? What does Avast have to do with Seamonkey (and why/how could it make those changes)? I was able to restore passwords/cookies by pulling up last night's backup for the xx.s file, rename the current file, rename the restored file with the current .s file name. All was returned to normal. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Riddle me this...
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Alwil Avast 4.8 Seamonkey 1.1.14 XP-Pro SP3. I had to uninstall Avast AV 4.8 and reinstall it. As a result of this activity, three changes happened to Seamonkey. 1) ALL my stored passwords disappeared; 2) ALL my stored and perpetual cookies disappeared; 3) My SSL settings were reset to give all warnings. Riddle me that? What does Avast have to do with Seamonkey (and why/how could it make those changes)? I was able to restore passwords/cookies by pulling up last night's backup for the xx.s file, rename the current file, rename the restored file with the current .s file name. All was returned to normal. why don't you ask them?: http://forum.avast.com/index.php I asked and was answered: Simply - avast does not make these changes to browsers, and avast never has a clue what POP mail client is being used and does not make any changes to them. avast's interaction with browsers is limited to intercepting the http calls it makes at the network level and the same goes for the unsecured POP/SMTP calls of mail clients, again at the network level. avast knows nothing of the internal working of any given browser or mail client. I think that there is a probability during the changes you were making to get the USB drive installed SeaMonkey may have had difficulty getting to the stored profile information for your browser and email client and created a new clean profile. So, if Avast did not cause this, and the timing was just coincidental, what would cause Seamonkey to burp as it did? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Riddle me this...
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Alwil Avast 4.8 Seamonkey 1.1.14 XP-Pro SP3. I had to uninstall Avast AV 4.8 and reinstall it. As a result of this activity, three changes happened to Seamonkey. 1) ALL my stored passwords disappeared; 2) ALL my stored and perpetual cookies disappeared; 3) My SSL settings were reset to give all warnings. Riddle me that? What does Avast have to do with Seamonkey (and why/how could it make those changes)? I was able to restore passwords/cookies by pulling up last night's backup for the xx.s file, rename the current file, rename the restored file with the current .s file name. All was returned to normal. why don't you ask them?: http://forum.avast.com/index.php I asked and was answered: Simply - avast does not make these changes to browsers, and avast never has a clue what POP mail client is being used and does not make any changes to them. avast's interaction with browsers is limited to intercepting the http calls it makes at the network level and the same goes for the unsecured POP/SMTP calls of mail clients, again at the network level. avast knows nothing of the internal working of any given browser or mail client. I think that there is a probability during the changes you were making to get the USB drive installed SeaMonkey may have had difficulty getting to the stored profile information for your browser and email client and created a new clean profile. So, if Avast did not cause this, and the timing was just coincidental, what would cause Seamonkey to burp as it did? how are we supposed to know. You gave one story to the SM support group, and another to the avast forum. Whats this all about: you were making to get the USB drive installed. Peter, Always happy to have your input. I uninstalled Avast to troubleshoot whether Avast was scanning a new USB hang-on HDD during the boot-up sequence. When connected, Windows was taking an additional minute to boot to the desk top. There was no change in the boot-up behavior with the USB HDD whether or not Avast was installed. With all respect, anything related to the hang-on drive is a red herring. The new drive had been connected for 10 days with no issues with Seamonkey. I uninstalled Avast to see if I could find the source of the elongated boot-up. Avast was not involved. Western Digital tech support stated it was Windows XP recognizing the drive and loading drivers that caused the expanded boot-up. All of this has no apparent bearing on loosing the passwords, cookies, and sll settings. So, if uninstall-install Avast is coincidental, I won't argue. Still, I'd like to understand why/how Seamonkey got scrambled. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
