Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

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On 3/31/2021 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:
> Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Greetings,
>
>> A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
>> place to post this 
>
> So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?
>
> Ray
>

Sure, just create a new e-mail address to be used for mail coming from
groups.io.  No problem.

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Re: Best size for SM Cache ?

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On 2/19/2021 4:18 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
> DoctorBill wrote:
>> Been having problems with cursor Freezing up.  Total Lockup.
>> Have to kill compuker and restart.   I figured it was the amount of "Free
>> Space" on my hard drive, so I moved a lot of Picture Files to a Thumbdrive.
>>
>> Of a 250 GB Solid State Drive I now have ~ 40 GB has been free'd up.
>>
>> Also my Cache size was determined by SM.   So I SET the max Cache Size
>> to 4 GB.    Huge, but I don't know what else to do to stop the Mouse Cursor
>> Freeze Ups.   HP Optical Mouse.  Windows 7 with 'Updates" turned OFF.
>> Virus and Trojan free (Malwarebytes).  Could I be going too fast
>> transferring ?
>>
>> So - is a possible of 4 GB of Cache Good ?
>>
>> Any suggestions of why Cursor freezes up.  Usually when I am viewing graphics
>> files or about to save them.  Always happens when using SMand Paint.net
>> and
>> GraphicsWorkShop Pro (Alchemy Mindworks).  Usually Windows Explorer on, too.
>>
>> DoctorBill
>
> I guess 4 GB Cache is irrelevant - it froze right after I saved the above
> Post !
>
> DB
For what it;'s worth - My SM cache is set for 0MB 

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Re: Compacting Folders

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On 11/24/2020 2:03 PM, EE wrote:
>  Mr. Ed  wrote:
>> Win 10  Sm 2.53.5.1
>>
>> Noticed that I no longer see the message signifying that the folders are 
>> being
>> compacted.
>> Are they being compacted?
>>
> I am seeing that in the status bar.
>
OK - Reinstalled and problem no longer persists. 

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Compacting Folders

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Win 10  Sm 2.53.5.1

Noticed that I no longer see the message signifying that the folders are being
compacted.
Are they being compacted?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

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On 11/15/2020 11:23 PM, Edmund Wong
  wrote:


  Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.5.  While it was actually released on the 14th, I've only
gotten the chance of posting this today.  My apologies.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Further to note that due to some issues(I would believe bugs, though I
am hand-waving the details), the team is now preparing to get 2.53.1
out.

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.5
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.5/



The long list of "Know Issues" for 2.53.5 will keep me from
upgrading.
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.5/
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Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey

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On 11/10/2020 9:21 PM, Ray Davison
  wrote:


  Mr. Ed  via support-seamonkey wrote:
  
  Anyone still using
"MozBackup-1.5.2-beta1-EN" for back up in the 2.50.x

SeaMonkey's?


  
  A long time ago, when storage space was expensive, it might have
  been reasonable to compress backups.  But now that storage space
  is cheap, why have a backup that you need to unpack to read or
  copy?
  
  
  For profiles and mail I use XCOPY new files - no, I do not run
  with profiles and mail in the same tree, so they are also backed
  up to their own trees.  I clone entire partitions and HDDs to
  other HDDs so they are usable without any processing - yes, that
  includes boot partitions from multiple OSs.  And none of this
  cares what version of anything is used.
  
  
  Ray
  
  

 -
WOW! XCOPY.!  Used it quite a it back in DOS days an early
widows.  

I was using MozBackup away back. until it became unsupported. 
Was told that it still worked by an acquaintance and thought I
would ask the group to see if anyone else was using it.  Perhaps
someone had updated it.  Looks like the answer to both questions
is "No";.

Then I started using a batch file to back up my daily work -
including my profiles of SM and others,

For the last few years I've been using "Pure Sync", a free
program as my back up software.  It has many user programmable
features .
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Re: MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey

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On 10/10/2020 1:48 PM, NFN Smith wrote:

 Mr. Ed
   wrote:
  
  Anyone still using
"MozBackup-1.5.2-beta1-EN" for back up in the 2.50.x

SeaMonkey's?


  
  
  
  If you're referring to http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ , that one
  has been abandoned since 2012.  That's before Mozilla went to
  Rapid Release for Firefox, and it's my understanding that the
  developer stopped because even then, there were too many changes
  to Firefox to keep up with maintenance.
  
  
  I would not trust it for backups of Seamonkey 2.48 or 2.53.
  
  
  Ultimately, making backups is merely a matter of getting the
  contents of %APPDATA\Mozilla\Seamonkey copied to another location.
  
  
  Smith
  


True, but it was working up to 2.48.  I used it to copy when
installing SM on a laptop.
A friend asked because he wanted to do the same and I wasn't
sure if it worked after that since I've been doing a backup
doing the same as you suggested each night using a batch file to
get all my daily work backed up.

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MozBackup-1.5.2 & SeaMonkey

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Anyone still using "MozBackup-1.5.2-beta1-EN" for back up in the 2.50.x
SeaMonkey's?

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SM 2.53.4 looping

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Page with a java script problem?

https://go.themoneynation.com/e/content/kya5t1TTpxpcVBl?s5=875ff9f7-a084-4097-87dd-4ccfb98e7d7b_cid=875ff9f7-a084-4097-87dd-4ccfb98e7d7b

SM 2.53.4 gets in a loop with java script enabled and displays empty screen
with java script disabled.

SM problem?  Web page problem?  or Java Script problem?

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High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

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I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything froze.  I was
able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds it was
almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.  Tried again
- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?  SeaMonkey
or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.3 released!

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On 7/7/2020 5:10 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
> 2.53.3.
>
> So please check out [1] or [2].
>
> Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
> am *still* working on it.
>
> Thanks to all involved.
>
> Edmund
>
> Links:
> [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.3
> [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.3 profiles etc. 
> with 

Has anyone tried saving 2.53.2 profiles with Mozbackup.exe version 1.5.2 beta1
and using the resulting files for restoring on 2.53.3

It has been working up to 2.53.2.

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Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.

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On 5/2/2020 8:25 PM, Frog wrote:

On
  5/2/2020 7:51 PM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:
  
  On 5/2/2020 5:24 PM, Frog wrote:


{Much text deleted}



  
  ---I believe that I can (with help from
  knowledgeable/technical savvy individuals on this newsgroup) 
  make adjustments to my original usern...@verizon.net account
  to make it compatible with my computer needs.  I believe that
  it is possible to make modifications to this account that will
  once again give me access to all of my needs
  
  
  Frog
  
  
  P.S.  I want everyone who has provided help to me in this
  situation to
  
    know how much I appreciate your efforts.  Your
  individual
  
    contributions have meant more to me than you can ever
  know.
  


As one who has been a Verizon user before the AOL takeover
here's my one cent

I believe at the takeover time all accounts were to go to
u...@aol.com unless you decided to stay with u...@verizon.net
amd IF you changed to the AOL account you could never go back to
your Verizon.net.  That's why I'm still u...@verizon.net


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  I also retained my u...@verizon.net address.
  
  
  All was working without any problems on my computer (SeaMonkey
  software) until very recently. I'm not sure if my computer was the
  cause of my problems or whether Verizon or AOL had a hand in
  causing my problems...whatever the cause, I now have a work around
  that involves three software packages (Thunderbird, AOL, and
  SeaMonkey) to do what I was doing on SeaMonkey alone.  Any
  settings in your account or profile (that you are willing to share
  with me) may help me to return to some sanity on my computer.  No,
  I am not seeking any personal information, such as usernames or
  passwords, in my seeking help.
  
  
  Please note that I had a 6.5 hour virus/malware scan of my
  computer and no problems were found.  I then got in touch with my
  virus scan people for help and they had me send the results of my
  scan to them for further review...the review did not turn up any
  problems.  Thus, I don't think the problem that put me in this
  mess was my computer...I believe it had something to do with
  either Verizon or AOL.
  
  
  It was good to hear from you and thanks for letting me know that I
  was not alone when I made the decision to keep my Verizon email
  address.
  
  
  Frog
  
  
  


See attached for POP and SMTP settings
  that I am using.  Just replace "user" with your Verizon user ID.
  (no quotes).

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Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone

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On 5/6/2020 1:22 PM, Don Spam's
  Reckless Son wrote:

 Mr. Ed
   wrote:
  
  On 5/6/2020 6:24 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl
wrote:

Daniel wrote:
  
  Ray Davison wrote on 6/05/2020 9:59
AM:

Password manager New, Edit, Clone
  
  
  I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on.
  
  
  It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more
  of those functions did work.  For a long time now, "New"
  is a active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code
  behind it.  It just clicks, and nothing.  Edit and Clone
  are greyed out.
  
  
  Is this thing supposed to work?
  
  
  TY
  
  
  Ray
  
  

Ray, where are these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons that you
refer to??


In my Win7 SM 2.49.5 (check sig file), if I go to Tools
-> Password Manager -> Manage Stored Passwords, I
don't see these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons.


Are they something installed by your "Saved Password"
add-on??


  
  
  > I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on.
  
  
  Seems the add-on no longer works. I would look into the error
  log and see if messages are logged there for it during startup
  on when you click a button. Might be an easy fixer or not.
  
  
  FRG
  


I'm using


* Saved Password Editor 2.9.6
(https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/saved-password-editor/)


Seems to work on with SM 2.53.2


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  Ray D is using Seamonkey 2.49.5 (under Windows 7, not that that
  matters).
  
  


  I've been using it since June 2016 - A number of previous versions
  of SM without problems - still working.

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Re: Password manager New, Edit, Clone

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On 5/6/2020 6:24 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl
  wrote:

Daniel
  wrote:
  
  Ray Davison wrote on 6/05/2020 9:59 AM:

Password manager New, Edit, Clone
  
  
  I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on.
  
  
  It seems to me that a long time ago at least one or more of
  those functions did work.  For a long time now, "New" is a
  active button, but there doesn't seem to be any code behind
  it.  It just clicks, and nothing.  Edit and Clone are greyed
  out.
  
  
  Is this thing supposed to work?
  
  
  TY
  
  
  Ray
  
  

Ray, where are these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons that you refer
to??


In my Win7 SM 2.49.5 (check sig file), if I go to Tools ->
Password Manager -> Manage Stored Passwords, I don't see
these "New, Edit, Clone" buttons.


Are they something installed by your "Saved Password" add-on??


  
  
  > I have the built in plus the Saved Passwords add-on.
  
  
  Seems the add-on no longer works. I would look into the error log
  and see if messages are logged there for it during startup on when
  you click a button. Might be an easy fixer or not.
  
  
  FRG
  


I'm using 
* Saved Password Editor 2.9.6 (https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/saved-password-editor/)

Seems to work on with SM 2.53.2

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Re: Sorting messages 2.53.2

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On 5/4/2020 9:46 AM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:
> Just noticed that I am unable to sort messages in this news group.  Clicking
> on any of the columns
> Subject, From, Recipient, Date, Lines has no affect.
>
> The sort works properly in my other 5 e-mail accounts.
>
> Can anyone verify this?
>

Happened twice in a row - Since then it seems to be working every time I close
and open Mail window.
I'll keep an eye on it for a few days.

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Sorting messages 2.53.2

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Just noticed that I am unable to sort messages in this news group.  Clicking
on any of the columns
Subject, From, Recipient, Date, Lines has no affect.

The sort works properly in my other 5 e-mail accounts.

Can anyone verify this?

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Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.

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On 5/3/2020 2:34 PM, Frog wrote:

On
  5/3/2020 11:31 AM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:
  
  On 5/2/2020 8:25 PM, Frog wrote:

On 5/2/2020 7:51 PM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:
  
  On 5/2/2020 5:24 PM, Frog wrote:


{Much text deleted}



  
  ---I believe that I can (with help from
  knowledgeable/technical savvy individuals on this
  newsgroup) make adjustments to my original
  usern...@verizon.net account to make it compatible with my
  computer needs.  I believe that it is possible to make
  modifications to this account that will once again give me
  access to all of my needs
  
  
  Frog
  
  
  P.S.  I want everyone who has provided help to me in this
  situation to
  
    know how much I appreciate your efforts.  Your
  individual
  
    contributions have meant more to me than you can
  ever know.
  


As one who has been a Verizon user before the AOL takeover
here's my one cent

I believe at the takeover time all accounts were to go to
u...@aol.com unless you decided to stay with
u...@verizon.net amd IF you changed to the AOL account you
could never go back to your Verizon.net.  That's why I'm
still u...@verizon.net


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  testify against himself!"  -Mister Ed


  
  I also retained my u...@verizon.net address.
  
  
  All was working without any problems on my computer (SeaMonkey
  software) until very recently. I'm not sure if my computer was
  the cause of my problems or whether Verizon or AOL had a hand
  in causing my problems...whatever the cause, I now have a work
  around that involves three software packages (Thunderbird,
  AOL, and SeaMonkey) to do what I was doing on SeaMonkey
  alone.  Any settings in your account or profile (that you are
  willing to share with me) may help me to return to some sanity
  on my computer.  No, I am not seeking any personal
  information, such as usernames or passwords, in my seeking
  help.
  
  
  Please note that I had a 6.5 hour virus/malware scan of my
  computer and no problems were found.  I then got in touch with
  my virus scan people for help and they had me send the results
  of my scan to them for further review...the review did not
  turn up any problems.  Thus, I don't think the problem that
  put me in this mess was my computer...I believe it had
  something to do with either Verizon or AOL.
  
  
  It was good to hear from you and thanks for letting me know
  that I was not alone when I made the decision to keep my
  Verizon email address.
  
  
  Frog
  
  
  


See attached for POP and SMTP settings that I am using.  Just
replace "user" with your Verizon user ID. (no quotes).


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  testify against himself!"  -Mister Ed


      
  
  Thanks Mr. ED for the settings you sent my way.  I had only one
  change to make to my settings...
  
  
  SNPT...Server Name was smtp.aol.com vs smpt.verizon.net
  
  
  After making the fix, I then attempted to check my mail and I
  received an error message as follows:
  
  
  Error with account usern...@verizon.net
  
  The account usern...@verizon.net is being processed.  Please wait
  until processing is complete to get messages.
  
      OK
  
  
  This message never goes away until I click OK.  No messages appear
  in my inbox
  
  
  Do you have any thoughts error message?
  
  
  Frog
  

No, can't think of anything else.  I've
  had no problems with the Verizon address with any of my mail
  programs using what I showed you.
  At the changeover time I just ignored all the messges about
  switching address to AOL.  I have 4 other accounts with Verizon
  using the same setups as shown in previous post  Perhaps someone
  will come up with the solution.  Good luck.--
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Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.

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On 5/2/2020 5:24 PM, Frog wrote:


  {Much text deleted}
  


  ---I believe that I can (with help from knowledgeable/technical
  savvy individuals on this newsgroup)  make adjustments to my
  original usern...@verizon.net account to make it compatible with
  my computer needs.  I believe that it is possible to make
  modifications to this account that will once again give me access
  to all of my needs
  
  
  Frog
  
  
  P.S.  I want everyone who has provided help to me in this
  situation to
  
    know how much I appreciate your efforts.  Your individual
  
    contributions have meant more to me than you can ever know.
  


As one who has been a Verizon user before the AOL takeover here's my
one cent 
I believe at the takeover time all accounts were to go to
u...@aol.com unless you decided to stay with  u...@verizon.net amd
IF you changed to the AOL account you could never go back to your
Verizon.net.  That's why I'm still u...@verizon.net

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Re: Not able to send messages.

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On 4/11/2020 8:19 PM, Frog wrote:

< Previous text removed>

> Well, I now have the answer to all of the items covered in this thread and
> now must start on a new thread.  I am going to bore you for a moment in
> order to help someone else who might be going through the problems I have
> been facing. So here goes the end of this thread:
>
> Part 1:  I really thought that I was dealing with a virus or malware on my
> computer; but I didn't want accept this thought, since I have had my present
> virus scan software (WebRoot) on my system for years; and it has never let
> me down.  As I stated in one of my messages, I did want to weed a virus or
> malware possibility out of the picture...thus, I did a complete scan of my
> entire system (6.5 hours of scanning); and no bad things were found on my
> system.  I then sent a message to the WebRoot people, and they had me
> forward the results of my scan to them for analysis.  They informed me,
> after their scan was completed, that my system did not have a virus or
> malware problem...it was completely clean.  They suggested that I contact
> Verizon (which remains a part of my email address) for help.  I thought
> about it and decided that a conversation with Verizon might take less that a
> few minutes; however, the wait to talk to somebody might take hours of
> waiting.  I then turned to the internet for help.
>
> Part 2:  The second part pertains to what I found on the internet.  Here is
> that information:
>
> Verizon Email Retirement
> "Verizon has retired our (their) email service.  We have completed our
> notifications regarding this change; and customers no longer have the option
> to keep their Verizon.net email address or extract and move their data to
> another service provider.(((I don't recall ever receiving a notification as
> stated above.)))
> Here is the web address where you might want to read more about this Verizon
> Email Retirement;
>
> https://www.verizon.com/support/consumer/email
>
> I believe that explains why I was receiving an endless number of the
> "Connection to server smpt.verizon.net timed outs".  It also explains why I
> could neither send nor download items from my Verizon mail box - it no
> longer existed.
>
> Be advised that I appreciate everybody's help with my problem.  At times, it
> was somewhat more technical that I am educated to understand. That is also
> alright...it helped me to learn considerably more about the technical side
> of computers.  All of you have my highest respect for the way you help other
> people with their problems.
>
> If you want to ask me about anything I have said along the way of this
> thread, I will do my best to provide you with a response.
>
> Frog
>
> P.S.  I will be opening a new thread about the steps I must take to continue
> what I have been doing here on my computer in an uninterrupted way.
>
>
>
Just for the record - I have attached a jpg of my settings using Verizon - not
AOL.  I did not opt for the change of address
at the time of Verizon's takeover of AOL.

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Re: Printing Problems

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On 4/4/2020 3:17 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

I'm having
  more problems than ever printing from SM, especially 2.53.1. Quite
  often I'll try to print web pages, and I'll only get parts of
  pages, like only 2 printed pages for 4 or 5 web pages. It's like
  it just prints what it feels like, and misses a lot of printing.
  All these pages print fine with Edge. Any ideas how I can get SM
  to print normally? Here's an example:
  
  https://erie.wbu.com/faqs-attracting-hummingbirds
  


Go to 'Print Preview"
from print in upper right corner.  
Check your setting for "Scale"
  
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Re: Is there a way to know which extensions may break when upgrading?

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On 3/7/2020 12:21 AM, Ant wrote:

On
  3/6/2020 6:22 PM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:
  
  On 3/6/2020 6:09 PM, Ant wrote:

On 3/6/2020 2:37 PM, Steve Dunn wrote:
  
   There seems to be a fair bit of
potential for extensions that work in 2.49.x to break in
2.53.1, based on what people have been posting here. I can't
say I'm surprised, given that the developers have to try to
maintain compatibility with an obsolete extension system
while grafting in components from a browser that moved to a
modern extension system a few years ago, but since
extensions are important, it's kind of a problem if the stop
working.


 Is there a way to know for sure which of your favourite
extensions will work in 2.53.1, or is it a case of back up,
hope for the best, and be prepared to uninstall 2.53.1,
reinstall 2.49.5, and restore your backup?

  
  
  You could share what extensions you have and we can tell you.
  Here's mine:
  
  
  Last updated: Fri Mar 06 2020 15:08:50 GMT-0800 (Pacific
  Standard Time)
  
  User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0)
  Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1
  
  
  Extensions (enabled: 6)
  
  * ColorfulTabs 31.1.9 (http://www.addongenie.com/colorfultabs)
  
  * DOM Inspector 2.0.17.2
  (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
  
  * Expire history by days [converted] 1.2.0
  
  * Open With 6.8.6 (https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith)
  
  * PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
  
  * uBlock Origin 1.16.4.19
  (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy)
  


And mine:


User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0)
Gecko/20100101

Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2


Extensions (enabled: 8)

* English United States Dictionary 60.1webext

* Enigmail 2.0.9 (https://www.enigmail.net/)

* Mail Redirect 0.10.7 (https://mailredirect.sourceforge.io/)

* NetVideoHunter [converted] 1.20
(http://www.netvideohunter.com) (disabled)

* Password Exporter Converted 1.3.4
(http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com)

* PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)

* Quote Colors 0.3.1-let-fixed (http://quotecolors.mozdev.org/)

* Reply to All as Cc [converted] 1.5.1
(http://www.clear-code.com/)

* Saved Password Editor 2.9.6
(https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/saved-password-editor/)

  
  
  No ad blocker, horsey? :/
  


Yeh, done by the usage of the Windows 'hosts' file:
http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/


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Re: Is there a way to know which extensions may break when upgrading?

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On 3/6/2020 6:09 PM, Ant wrote:

On
  3/6/2020 2:37 PM, Steve Dunn wrote:
  
   There seems to be a fair bit of
potential for extensions that work in 2.49.x to break in 2.53.1,
based on what people have been posting here. I can't say I'm
surprised, given that the developers have to try to maintain
compatibility with an obsolete extension system while grafting
in components from a browser that moved to a modern extension
system a few years ago, but since extensions are important, it's
kind of a problem if the stop working.


 Is there a way to know for sure which of your favourite
extensions will work in 2.53.1, or is it a case of back up, hope
for the best, and be prepared to uninstall 2.53.1, reinstall
2.49.5, and restore your backup?

  
  
  You could share what extensions you have and we can tell you.
  Here's mine:
  
  
  Last updated: Fri Mar 06 2020 15:08:50 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard
  Time)
  
  User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0)
  Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1
  
  
  Extensions (enabled: 6)
  
  * ColorfulTabs 31.1.9 (http://www.addongenie.com/colorfultabs)
  
  * DOM Inspector 2.0.17.2
  (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
  
  * Expire history by days [converted] 1.2.0
  
  * Open With 6.8.6 (https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith)
  
  * PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
  
  * uBlock Origin 1.16.4.19
  (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy)
  


And mine:

  User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64;
x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2
Extensions (enabled: 8)
* English United States Dictionary 60.1webext
* Enigmail 2.0.9 (https://www.enigmail.net/)
* Mail Redirect 0.10.7 (https://mailredirect.sourceforge.io/)
* NetVideoHunter [converted] 1.20 (http://www.netvideohunter.com) (disabled)
* Password Exporter Converted 1.3.4 (http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com)
* PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* Quote Colors 0.3.1-let-fixed (http://quotecolors.mozdev.org/)
* Reply to All as Cc [converted] 1.5.1 (http://www.clear-code.com/)
* Saved Password Editor 2.9.6 (https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/saved-password-editor/)


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Re: Opening DOCX Attachment fails

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On 2/15/2020 1:58 AM, Rainer Bielefeld
  wrote:

Cecil
  Bankston schrieb:
  
  SeaMonkey saves it in a temporary folder

  
  
  
  
  Hi,
  
  
  that is the intended behavior, SM _always_ saves files in the
  \Temp folder before the file will be opened with the helper
  application.
  
  
  Problem is NOT reproducible with installation of unofficial (by
  wg9s) De SeaMonkey 2.53.2 beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0  (NT 6.1; Win64;
  x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Build 20200211130005 
  (Default Classic Theme, newly created User Profile) on German WIN7
  64bit
  
  
  1) doublelick on arbitrary.docx as email attachment
  
     » Dialog appears, asks what to do, radio button at
  
   'Open with LibO Writer'
  
  2) I often have to click somewhere into the dialog because
  
     [Open] ist greyed out, only [Cancel] is available
  
  3) Click [Open]
  
     » LibO launches, arbitrary.docx opens in LibO Writer
  
  
  I don not have LibO in Helper Apps.
  
  
  CU
  
  
  Rainer
  


Having told all my friends to stop sending DOCX files and use
PDF instead I worked around the problem.
Now running WG9S's 2.53.2 and haven't had the opportunity to
check it.

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Re: Opening DOCX Attachment

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On 2/14/2020 3:21 PM, Cecil Bankston
  wrote:

I use
  LibreOffice instead of Microsoft Office.  I have "Use LibreOffice
  Writer" set in Helper Application for SeaMonkey to use for opening
  Microsoft Word files.  When I double-click or R-click/Open on a
  .docx attachment in an e-mail, SeaMonkey saves it in a temporary
  folder instead of opening it with LibreOffice.  The download
  manager shows that the download failed, but if I open the folder
  where it was saved, the document is there and will open in
  LibreOffice if double-clicked.  Why is SeaMonkey not opening the
  attachments in LibreOffice as set in Preferences?
  


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Re: User agent switcher

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  On 2/8/2020 1:37 PM, EE wrote:
  
  Ken
wrote: 
I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.5 with Windows
  10.  What is the best switcher/changer to use with this
  version?  I searched the add-ons and most say they are not
  compatible with my version of SM. 


What you need to do is increase the max version of the target
application in install.rdf inside the .xpi file before trying to
install it. 
  
  
  You can also go here:  http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
  Follow simple directions and it will be done for you.
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Re: User agent switcher

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On 2/8/2020 1:37 PM, EE wrote:

Ken wrote:
  
  I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.5 with Windows
10.  What is the best switcher/changer to use with this
version?  I searched the add-ons and most say they are not
compatible with my version of SM.

  
  
  What you need to do is increase the max version of the target
  application in install.rdf inside the .xpi file before trying to
  install it.
  


You can also go here:  http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
Follow simple directions and it will be done for you.
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Re: Mail: Authentication for AOL account fails.

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On 1/3/2020 6:43 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> Hi,
>
> may be an AOL user can (and wants to) help Reporter of
> "Bug 1606769 Seamonkey eMail no longer works with AOL eMail."
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1606769> ?
>
>
> CU
>
> Rainer
No problem here with

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5

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Re: Blank Facebook Page

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On 11/14/2019 6:50 AM, Thomas Pamin
  wrote:

Thomas
  Pamin wrote:
  
  Getting some blank pages on Facebook
today. IE works fine. Anyone else seeing this? Not on all my
PC's either.

  
  
  Only happening on one laptop. Most of the time page doesn't load
  fully. Sometimes it will "flip in" and load, but usually it
  doesn't. Works with IE and IE Tab. All other web pages work fine.
  Never saw this before.
  
  
  Cleared cookies, cache, etc. Tried Safe Mode. Flash Player and
  Java up-to-date. No malware on PC.
  


Had same problem yesterday and early this morning.  And M$ Edge
seems not to have had the problem.
Looks good right now.  Perhaps certain browsers get preference
on Face Book ??
  
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Re: If I wanted to download a vid from Youtube ....??

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On 11/3/2019 11:56 AM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:
> On 11/3/2019 6:35 AM, Daniel wrote:
>> (Such a simple question  with, possible, so many answers!!)
>>
>> If I wanted to download a video from Youtube onto my computer Hard Drive
>> with my SeaMonkey Suite V 2.49.5, which Add-on would people recommend, 
>> please.
>>
>> (I know I used to be able to do it, but, it seems, at some time I've
>> re-installed SM and missed re-installing the required Add-on!)
>>
> VideoDownloaderUltimateWin
> https://www.videodownloaderultimate.com/en/
>
Not an addon, standalone so it works with anything.

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Re: If I wanted to download a vid from Youtube ....??

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On 11/3/2019 6:35 AM, Daniel wrote:
> (Such a simple question  with, possible, so many answers!!)
>
> If I wanted to download a video from Youtube onto my computer Hard Drive
> with my SeaMonkey Suite V 2.49.5, which Add-on would people recommend, please.
>
> (I know I used to be able to do it, but, it seems, at some time I've
> re-installed SM and missed re-installing the required Add-on!)
>

VideoDownloaderUltimateWin
https://www.videodownloaderultimate.com/en/

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Re: Lastpass addon for SM on win 10

[Ed Mullen]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Ken Harris wrote:
I've used Lastpass for years as addon under Win 7. Just moved to Win 
10 and cannot install. Lastpass says it's only available for Firefox. 
Is this true?



Sorta -- but you can get an older version of Lastpass to work (mostly) 
with SM under Win 10. Search the archives of this newsgroup for hints 
about which version can still be made to work; sorry I don't have that 
information handy.


I don't know what the newest version of LP is but I'm using 3.3.4 with 
SM 2.49.4 on Win 10.  Works fine.


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Re: Amber Alert Web Page Problem

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Boy - I guess you can't even help
  public service without sacrificing your on security.  Oh, well -
  just another site I have no use for.
  
  On 9/19/2019 9:16 AM, Mario M wrote:


  
  
  It won't load unless you allow AddThis.com.  Blocking it
prevents loading.
  
  On September 19, 2019 at 8:47 AM " Mr.
        Ed  via support-seamonkey"
 wrote: 

This web page does not load properly in SM 2.49.5 nor MS Edge. 
Anyone else having a problem? 

http://www.missingkids.org/poster/AMBER/30322/11503/screen?fbclid=IwAR2iqX4KO1FMe-fWE6U61GoeLtVvjXqX7LkC0288y2e1S0K9FWTRlNhW2EA


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Amber Alert Web Page Problem

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This web page does not load properly in SM 2.49.5 nor MS Edge.
Anyone else having a problem?

http://www.missingkids.org/poster/AMBER/30322/11503/screen?fbclid=IwAR2iqX4KO1FMe-fWE6U61GoeLtVvjXqX7LkC0288y2e1S0K9FWTRlNhW2EA

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.5 released!

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On 9/3/2019 11:33 PM, Ant wrote:
> 8:29PM [Flexo(~rbot@...)] ::seamonkeyblog:: SeaMonkey 2.49.5 has been
> released! @
> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2019/09/04/seamonkey-2-49-5-has-been-released/
> (by ewong)
>
> However, I don't see a
> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.5/ web page. I'll
> wait... :(

Can the official 2.53 be far behind?

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Re: Google Earth

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On 8/25/2019 3:01 PM, batroo...@gmail.com wrote:
> Running win 10 on a Dell 530s desktop. 
> I have been trying to load GE from a new download. I get the message that 
> "This app cannot run on your PC" I have also tried a new version of Google 
> Earth Pro with similar results. 
> The closest I got was GE open with the side bar and the portion that should 
> contain an image of the Earth but it is all black, no planet earth. If I 
> enter a location it does nothing at all. 
> Is there a way to get Google Earth or even Google Earth Pro up and running on 
> my PC? Thank you.

Did you download the correct version for a desktop?
https://www.google.com/earth/versions/#download-pro
This one works fine here on a Win 10 64bit system

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Re: Invalid Characters

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On 8/16/2019 10:03 AM, Nuno Silva
  wrote:


  On 2019-08-16,  Mr. Ed  wrote:


  
On 8/16/2019 8:27 AM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:


  On 8/16/2019 7:54 AM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:

  
For some reason, lately I have been sending the Character "À" after a ". "
(period and a space).
It shows up in the reciepients e-mail as a "?". 
I am using
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5
Bill's (WG9) from 8/13/19.   This may have started before, but I was just told about it.   

Suggestions?  
Reply here or to 'from' address - I don't hide.
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  Examples:

What I typed                                     this is. 
What is displayed in sent messages   this is.ÀÀ
What is received    this is.??

after "is" are two spaces and "new line" (carriage return)




And what is interesting it that I don't see this happening on reading the
e-mail in the news groups. 
no "?" marks after the period even though I left to spaces.   Hmmm.

  
  
If this is what I think it is, it should only happen when you use the
SMTP server from Verizon/AOL/Yahoo/...

Try setting (for example, in about:config) the mail.strictly_mime
preference to true, which, if I understand correctly, will make
Mail use quoted-printable for outgoing messages.

Bug 1435903 has some details about this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1435903




Thanks - that's me  Verizon/AOL/Yahoo
Hate like hell to switch mail servers - but I really haven't
been happy since Verizon took over AOL (or is the other way
around?) ;-)
  
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Re: Invalid Characters

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On 8/16/2019 8:27 AM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:
> On 8/16/2019 7:54 AM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:
>> For some reason, lately I have been sending the Character "À" after a ". "
>> (period and a space).
>> It shows up in the reciepients e-mail as a "?". 
>> I am using
>> User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) 
>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5
>> Bill's (WG9) from 8/13/19.   This may have started before, but I was just 
>> told about it.   
>>
>> Suggestions?  
>> Reply here or to 'from' address - I don't hide.
>> -- 
>> "This is America!  You can't make a horse
>>  testify against himself!"  -Mister Ed
> Examples:
>
> What I typed                                     this is. 
> What is displayed in sent messages   this is.ÀÀ
> What is received    this is.??
>
> after "is" are two spaces and "new line" (carriage return)
>

And what is interesting it that I don't see this happening on reading the
e-mail in the news groups. 
no "?" marks after the period even though I left to spaces.   Hmmm.

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Re: Invalid Characters

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On 8/16/2019 7:54 AM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:
> For some reason, lately I have been sending the Character "À" after a ". "
> (period and a space).
> It shows up in the reciepients e-mail as a "?". 
> I am using
> User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
> Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5
> Bill's (WG9) from 8/13/19.   This may have started before, but I was just 
> told about it.   
>
> Suggestions?  
> Reply here or to 'from' address - I don't hide.
> -- 
> "This is America!  You can't make a horse
>  testify against himself!"  -Mister Ed
Examples:

What I typed                                     this is. 
What is displayed in sent messages   this is.ÀÀ
What is received    this is.??

after "is" are two spaces and "new line" (carriage return)

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Invalid Characters

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For some reason, lately I have been sending the Character "À" after a ". " 
(period and a space).
It shows up in the reciepients e-mail as a "?". 
I am using

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5
Bill's (WG9) from 8/13/19.   This may have started before, but I was just told 
about it.   

Suggestions?  
Reply here or to 'from' address - I don't hide.

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Re: images blurred

[ Mr . Ed  via support-seamonkey]

  
  
On 8/12/2019 9:46 AM, meagain wrote:


  Original Message 
  
  On 8/12/19 9:03 AM, meagain wrote:

Today a newspaper site has images
  blurred when viewed by SeaMonkey 2.49.4 but not in other
  browsers. What could cause that?
  


We don't know without visiting the site.


  
  https://www.bostonglobe.com/
  
  

Fails with;
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0   AND
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5

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Re: Advertising Blocker in SeaMonkey 2.49.4

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On 6/28/2019 6:35 AM, Rubens wrote:

Frank-Rainer
  Grahl wrote on 27/06/2019 22:31:
  
  Felix Miata wrote:

Frog composed on 2019-06-27 14:45
  (UTC-0400):
  
  
  I am sure that there must be some way
to stop adds from showing up on my

computer.  I have searched the internet for a program that
will put an

end to my add problem with no joy.  Some of what I read was
above my

technical ability to follow.  Any suggestions appreciated.

  
  
  The vast majority of ads can be avoided using CSS. Some
  examples are at:
  

  
  From there

  

  
  can be extracted into your profile's chrome directory (create
  it if you don't
  
  already have it) and used as-is as a place to start.
  
  
  Compelling sites that don't work in SeaMonkey due to this type
  of blocking, or UA
  
  incompetence, I open instead in Firefox or Chromium.
  
  
  Sites you frequent you might wish to customize, e.g. via
  add-on:
  
  https://userstyles.org/
  
  
  No method is perfect, but they help a lot.
  
  


I use uBlock Origin (currently 1.16.4.11) and NoScript (5.1.9)
and ads are mostly gone. Or set up Pi-hole https://pi-hole.net/


FRG

  
  
  I have been using AdBlock Plus for years with excellent
  resiults:   https://adblockplus.org/en/
  
  
  Also, its "Element Hiding Helper" accessory is quite useful: 
  https://adblockplus.org/en/elemhidehelper
  
  
  RF
  
  

I find that using the hosts file works pretty
  good.
  https://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

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Re: Random charter in sent e-mail

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On 5/27/2019 12:54 AM, Danny Kile
  wrote:

My sister
  is have a problem with SeaMonkey 2.49.4 running on Windows-7. When
  she send an e-mail to anyone this is what happens.
  
  
  This may be what she typed.
  
  
  Example of the text she may send is like this.
  
  
  The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
  
  
  Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of there
  country.
  
  
  End of the example text.
  
  
  
  
  After send the message and looking in the sent folder you can see
  that the message is exactly as she typed it. However, when I
  receive the message it will look something similar to this. It
  does not matter who receives it or what mail client they are using
  it will look like this to them.
  
  
  
  
  Example of the text the receiver sees will look like this.
  
  
  ???  The quick brown? fox
  jumped?? over ??? the lazy ? dog. ??
  
  
  Now is the time ? for all good men to ??come to the aid of
  there
country.
  
  End of the example text.
  
  
  
  
  
  There is no set patter that I can tell. The question marks are
  added to the sent message. The question marks are not always
  question mark it could be any non alpha/number charter.
  
  
  Well, thanks for asking, but I have already done a complete scan
  with numerous virus and malware scanners. The machine is clean.
  
  
  Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated, Thank you.
  


I also have noticed
that, but so far only in e-mail that has come from i-phones.

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Re: Staying alive

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On 04/23/19 9:13 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/23/19
  6:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
  
  Reiner Schug wrote on 23-04-19 22:09:

Hi!
  
  
  Please, Seamonkey - stay alive.
  
  
  All other Browsers fucked up their UI / Prefs / Privacy.
  
  
  It already smelled when Goodger forked Phoenix/Firebird...
  
  The UI fucked up... then he went to Google.
  
  
  Seamonkey is the only Browser I trust.
  
  Keep up the good work.
  
  
  ciao...
  
  

Why did you say that? SeaMonkey will die?

  
  
  Well, SeaMonkey 2.49.x based on Firefox 52ESR has been out since
  October 2017. The current official version 2.49.4 since July 2018
  still based on 52ESR.
  
  
  The last beta was 2.48b1 from April 2017.
  
  
  "[comm-beta]:
  
  
      We currently do not track nor update comm-beta.
  
      Do not use any current comm-beta based release.
  
      See bug 1452448 for current comm-central breakages."
  
  
  REF:

  
  Version 2.49.5 is delayed while they build up the new
  infrastructure.
  
  
  REF:

  
  Meanwhile they are hard at work on 2.57 based on 60 ESR. Probably
  also delayed while they build up the new infrastructure.
  
  
  There aren't enough developers and they probably could use some
  financial help. I think they are putting in a valiant effort but
  may be facing a bit of burnout.
  
  
  There are unofficial 2.49.5 and 2.53 builds from Bill.
  
  


I've been using 2.49.5 64 bit version from Bill since January. 
Seems to be fine and he has not done any updates since then.
Spending his time on 2.53 and 2.57  which I have not tried.
  
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Re: cannot access microsoft office website

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On 04/11/19 2:03 PM, Norman Fuchs
  wrote:

If I enter
  the URL portal.office.com, after a few redirects I land at
  https://www.office.com/?trysignin=0
  
  but the display on SeaMonkey is completely blank.  I am running
  version 2.49.4, the most recent one AFAIK.  I have no such problem
  with Firefox.
  
  
  Is there a solution to this problem?
  

If I access it using
SeaMonkey with only SeaMonkey in the UserAgent string I get a
blank page.
If I change the UserAgent to anything else it displays
correctly.
  
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Macros

[Ed Mullen]

In SeaMonkey 2.49 the "macros" item is  missing from tools menu. Anyone 
know where it went?


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Re: Should the size of the memory cache be a setting in preferences?

[Ed Mullen]

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2019-02-27, Dirk Munk wrote:



My friendly advise to the Seamonkey developers would be to go over all
the settings, and remove memory constraints. Yes, it will increase the
memory footprint of 64 bit Seamonkey, but if a user has a problem with
that, he should increase the memory in his system, or stick to the 32
bit version.


I'd say "increase" the setting, not "remove" the constraint.


My experience with removing memory constraints is that applications
become much more stable as well. No hangs, no crashes etc.


This setting is named "memory cache". What does this do, exactly? If it
is actually about caching content from the Internet, wouldn't increasing
it only make sense if you request the same content several times?

Or is this setting actually controlling how much memory Seamonkey can
allocate for any purpose?



This may help:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.cache.memory.capacity

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Re: is it possible to add/correct signons with sqlite?

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David H. Durgee wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:


I am encountering a problem where my power company has made changes to
their website and my remembered password is no longer used and I cannot
find a way to get SM 2.49.5 to remember it on the new page.

Given this is it possible for me to manually add or correct the signon
with sqlite tools?  I opened the db with SQLite manager in SM and can
see the entry.  I did NOT attempt to make changes there as I suspect
that would cause problems with SM open.  I assume other SQLite tools
would offer similar capabilities and could be used with SM closed.


In previous versions, if you entered new data for a site where the
Password Manager had remembered your login/password, the PM would prompt
you to update or not. Doesn't it do that anymore?

Failing that, my next fallback would be to go into the PM and delete the
site. Then login and the PM will ask whether to save the data, you
should approve.

I like the old interface:

Enter the site name in the search window to see a short list with only
that word.



I also use the old interface, but the problem is the power company
changed the URL where the username/password are requested and for
whatever reason I cannot get SM to remember this login.  My hope is that
I can copy the existing entry and edit the URL to the new one and have
it used.

Dave



Well, I just found out that as best I can tell signons.sqlite is no
longer being used by SM 2.49.5 for password management.  Looking a bit
more it seems that logins.json is where this is now being maintained.

Guess I will have to see if I can edit that file instead to update the
login for this website.

Dave



This might shed some light on it:

<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#Files_and_folders_in_the_profile>

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Re: Columns mixed up in transmitting e-mails

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Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

I am running Windows 7, with SeaMonkey IMAP e-mail.

When I carefully type and send an e-mail, with some important data in 
columns, the received message has the columns all mixed up, so that the 
data are often illegible. This just happened again when I was trying to 
make dates with a pretty girl pianist to go to classical music concerts 
with me.


What can I do to have the e-mail received in exactly the same format as 
when I send it?


Thanks.

Mort Linder

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This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus



One point:  YOU cannot control how the message is viewed by the recipient.

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Re: Help~ Lost Side Panel

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Lori wrote:
Lost my left-side panel of all Inbox folders and subfolders with mucho 
mail.

All I can see is the message section.
This happened once before a long time ago and I don't remember the fix.

Lori


View - Layout - Folder Pane
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Re: Password/Data Manager Export

[Ed Mullen]

cyberzen wrote:

Ed Mullen a écrit :
You can export signons.sqlite to CSV using a utility.  Google is your 
friend.


https://tinyurl.com/ycz9kz8c


signons.sqlite ?
where it is ?


In your profile folder:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey

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Re: Password/Data Manager Export

[Ed Mullen]

Hawker wrote:
Is there any way to export from the Data manager to some other format 
(Text file, CSV file etc) ?  Specifically I want to export all my 
password - site, user name, password (un-encrypted. I realize I can view 
one at a time in the Data manager but I want to export all of them.


This is to make a back up list, not to transfer to a different 
browser/computer. Using a cloud sync service is not an acceptable option 
for security reasons.


Google leads me to a possible extension called
password_exporter-1.2.1-mod.xpi
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/password-exporter/reviews/ 


But I am unable to find a location to actually download it from.


You can export signons.sqlite to CSV using a utility.  Google is your 
friend.


https://tinyurl.com/ycz9kz8c



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Re: constipated email on occasion

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Daniel wrote:
Just occured to me ... most of my time on-line, I am connected to news 
servers (either this moz one or UseNet). Does SM still check my ISP 
provided POP3 mail account even though I'm connected to a News Server 
somewhere??




Yes

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

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Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by 
design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Windows 10 will use the same file name and append " - Copy" to it.


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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Ed Mullen]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try 
to get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail 
is downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.


This may be due to a difference in settings. My default on launching SM 
is mail/news, so the only way I can get to browser alone is to launch 
SM, open the browser, and close mail/news. Perhaps M/N behaves like a 
TSR and only appears to be closed while secretly remaining open.


Edit | Preferences | Appearance
When SeaMonkey starts up, open
[ ] Browser
[x] Mail & Newsgroups
[ ] Composer
[ ] Address Book
[ ] Chatzilla



That could be it:  mine is set to only open the browser.

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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Ed Mullen]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on my 
current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so 
didn't want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra 
for getting my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the 
Internet, I started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name 
and then went into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the 
Browser when I clicked on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM 
and the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could get 
the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M screen 
opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM tried to get 
my mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then 
close SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M screen, 
should to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to collect 
any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this Mozilla 
server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try to 
get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail is 
downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.

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Re: Saving YouTube Videos ?

[ Mr . Ed ]

On 10/07/18 5:33 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
> I used to be able to save YouTube Videos !
> Like reloading cartridges, how to's, some music vids etc.
>
> Now I have lost that ability when My Windows XP went south and I switched
> to Windows 7.
>
> Can anyone recommend a FREE YouTube Video saver that works ?
> My daughter's wedding was put on YouTube - I can watch it, but can't save it !
>
> Help !
>
> DoctorBill

Freemake Video Downloader

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

[Ed Mullen]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/11/2018 12:00 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:



Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


mozilla.test.multimedia accepts attachments.



Wouldn't this thread be OT there?





Well, yes, but I'm not suggesting putting the entire thread there, just 
a post with the image/attachment.


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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

[Ed Mullen]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:



Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


mozilla.test.multimedia accepts attachments.


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Re: Messages with attachments being deleted.

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On 07/09/18 5:00 PM, Frog wrote:

Frog
  wrote:
  
   Any message sent my way that includes
an attachment is being deleted before it arrives on my computer.
All messages that do not have an attachment are arriving okay. 
Here is what I'm looking at in the way of my computer
system/set-up:


I am using a desktop computer.

I am using Windows 10 Home

1 have 400 GB of Ram

My ISP is AOL.

My browser is SeaMonkey version 2.49.3

I also employ an application names MailWasher Pro, version
7.11.0

My computer virus scan software is WebRoot Secure Anywhere
version 9,0,20,31


Yesterday, I had my daughter send me a message with an
attachment---I never saw her message (either in my SeaMonkey
mail or in MailWasher).


I next saw a message (with an attachment)in MailWasher from a
source that was identified by me as a Friend.  I next washed the
rest of my mail and downloaded the good items to my computer. 
The message with the attachment did not appear in my SeaMonkey
Inbox.  I could not find a trace of this message in the
MailWasher Recycle Folder or in an AOL located files.


I then observed another message in MailWasher that had an
attachment.  I decided to not take any action in MailWasher
relative to this message...I simply went to SeaMonkey and
downloaded my messages (wanted and unwanted) from my SeaMonkey
application.  The message that had an attachment was not in my
download.


This loss of messages, ones having attachments, has been going
on for some time.  I have gone through MailWasher from one end
to the other searching for a reason for these deletions.  I sent
a message to AOL and they have not responded.


This problem started about the same time that I installed
SeaMonkey version 2.49.3...about the time that I upgraded
MailWasher from Free to Pro...and about the time that my Windows
10 software was updated with a major upgrade.


I'm looking for help with finding a solution for this problem.



Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.


Frog

  
  
  
  Additional Information
  
  
  I continued my search today for the reason why wanted messages
  with attachments were not arriving in my SeaMonkey mail. 
  Interestingly, I found some of these messages were sent to my
  never used AOL browser as trash.  This information indicates to me
  that my virus scan software is not deleting these messages...that
  software at AOL is not deleting these messages...and now I believe
  my lost message problem is located either in SeaMonkey or
  MailWasher.
  
  
  I continue to need help with this problem.
  
  
  Frog
  


Disable 'First Alert' in
Mailwasher if you're using it.  

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Re: Cox Webmail Access Blocked

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Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:
I usually use my SeaMonkey browser to access my Cox Webmail to mark 
the spam messages the
Cox filter misses before I download new messages with SeaMonkey Mail.  
SeaMonkey Mail
still accesses the account normally; but recently, after I enter my 
address and password
on the Cox Webmail sign-in page I get a new pop-up saying 
"Authentication Required" and
"https://myemail.cox.net is requesting your username and password. The 
site says: “OX
WebDAV”.   Even if I re-enter the username and password, the same 
pop-up returns, blocking

my webmail access.

Edge browser accesses the webmail page normally.

Can anyone suggest what may have changed to cause this issue and what 
might be done to

correct it?


My opinion:
Cox changed their access parameters.  They will of course deny it and
blame the user for an unsupported browser.  That is normal ISP behavior.

A couple of thing you can try:
Change your UI string to not show SeaMonkey at all.  The word "SeaMonkey"
   tends to confuse isp's sniffers.
Make sure SSL is not checked and only TLS 1.1 and higher is checked.




And allow cookies and javascript.


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Re: User agent settings for Seamonkey

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Chuck wrote:
For those of us who are not experts in this sort of thing would someone 
post an explaination of this?

Chuck




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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

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On 06/14/18 2:57 PM, cmcadams wrote:

David H.
  Durgee wrote:
  
  Mozilla User wrote:

First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I
  will soon no longer be able to track my packages through USPS
  using SeaMonkey.
  
  
  When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
  
  Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support
  outdated browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade
  your browser. Read more ›
  
  
  :(
  
  
  I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey
  are about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have
  been a loyal user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need
  to switch to FireFox. It's just a pain in the neck to keep
  switching between browsers for certain websites. I like having
  one browser for everything.
  
  


Just wanted to let the group know that I found myself totally
unable to complete a customs form on the USPS website on
Monday.  I wound up having to physically fill one out at the
local post office to get my package sent.


This is impacting more that SeaMonkey, I was unable to do so
with the CURRENT FireFox and Google Chrome either here on my
linux mint 18.3 x64 system!  I can only assume that their
snooping is not happy with linux browsers.


I assume that at some point I could spoof a user agent string
that will make USPS happy, but this is getting ridiculous when
current releases of major browsers are not being supported
simply because they are linux releases.


Dave

  
  
  For what it's worth, my UA string for USPS is spoofed as
  
  
  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101
  Firefox/59.0
  
  
  and when the same (red) message appears I click on "Read more" and
  it tells me I am virtuous and everything is ducky. No functional
  problems, but I haven't tried to do much on USPS lately.
  
  


Logged into my account using the string:
  

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4


  On the line that says they are not going to support out of
  date browsers, I clicked on the "read more" line and got:
  

  
Good news — your browser is
up to date.
 
You can continue to access all USPS.com
features with your current browser version.
 
Thank you for using USPS.com!
  
So it looks like
  they DO support SeaMonkey.
  
  

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Re: Does "Mark - Thread as Read" really work??

[ Mr . Ed ]

  
  
On 06/07/18 6:18 PM, Paul in Houston,
  TX wrote:

Daniel
  wrote:
  
  Does anyone, here, ever "Mark Thread as
Read" in their newsgroups??

  
  
  I use it often.  It works for me without any problems.
  
  


All the time - mostly
in mozilla.general 

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Re: Updated to Win10 1803 and SM 2.49.3 Still Works OK

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On 5/11/2018 at 11:39 AM, Arnie Goetchius created this epitome of 
digital genius:

No problems with the new version of Win 10 1803 running on test computer. 
Fingers crossed



You might not even be able to update Windows.

<https://hothardware.com/news/these-intel-ssds-blocked-microsofts-windows-10-april-2018-update>

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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

[Ed Mullen]

On 5/8/2018 at 12:07 PM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:
Ok, Ok, but if the correction is possible thru an addon, It would be not 
so difficult to put the code of the addon into the source of TB.


I did not know what a "bustage" is google-translate cannot help me in 
french.





Something that is broken.  In this case, things in the software that are 
not working properly.


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Re: google maps

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/27/2018 at 9:54 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 27/04/18 06:11:
You might need to use a generic Firefox UA to use google. This is now 
broken for over a year and has been reported by various users. Google 
doesn't care.


2.49.3 is almost ready. Got delayed because of a hardware problem with 
the last macOS builder. Should show up next week at the latest. Build 
is in post-processing and for all I know the final. Just mop up and 
moving it now:


https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.49.3-candidates/build2/ 



FRG


Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Smiles a écrit le 26/04/2018 à 21:10 :

google maps no longer likes SeaMonkey what changes do I do change to
view a map

thanks



May you can update Seamonkey, the latest is 2.49.2 :
<https://www.seamonkey-project.org/>

I don't log into Google Maps all that often, once a month maybe, but it 
has continued to function for me up to and including SM 2.49.2 just last 
week!!




+1

Try allowing cookies and Safe Mode and report back.


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Re: National Zoo Panda Cams

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On 4/17/2018 at 12:47 AM, Paul in Houston, TX created this epitome of 
digital genius:

xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-04-16 11:44 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

SM 2.49.2,  WXP - what do I need to change and/or add to get
the Smithsonian panda cams at
  http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
to play?


I can't get any of the three cams (lion, panda, elephant) to work 
with SM or IE11.
They all say "Stream Unavailable".  Clicking on the start arrow does 
not send a packet,

at least not for me anyways.
Sounds to me like the cams are not working.

Thank you, Paul.  But all four work on the iPad - so is it
Windows or SeaMonkey or a missing codec or ... ?


Interesting!  Pehaps they only work on Pads, phones, etc.


Working here on SeaMonkey 2.49.2 and Firefox 59.0.2.

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/15/2018 at 12:28 PM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 4/15/18 11:16 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 4/15/2018 at 2:22 AM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital 
genius:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal 
user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. 
It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for 
certain websites. I like having one browser for everything.






Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites 
which is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.







I get the alert message actually using Firefox 50.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0

Clicking the Read More link informs the user that the site compatible 
versions are "Compatible Versions: 59, 58.0.1".




Even spoofing FF59 will get the initial red banner. If you click Read 
More you'll get this:



Good news — your browser is up to date.

You can continue to access all USPS.com features with your current 
browser version.


Thank you for using USPS.com!


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/15/2018 at 2:22 AM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital 
genius:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read 
more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are about 
to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal user for 
about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. It's just a 
pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for certain 
websites. I like having one browser for everything.


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus



Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites which 
is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.




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Re: Seamonkey stupid

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On 4/11/2018 at 1:55 PM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:

Ed Mullen wrote on 11-04-18 19:42:

On 4/11/2018 at 8:25 AM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 4/11/18 2:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?



It's something called CYA. You can set SeaMonkey to "Automatically 
save the message every 1 minute".


Where is this pref in the UI?



Edit - Preference - Mails - Composition - Atomatically...


Duh!  Thanks.


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Re: Seamonkey stupid

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/11/2018 at 8:25 AM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 4/11/18 2:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?



It's something called CYA. You can set SeaMonkey to "Automatically save 
the message every 1 minute".


Where is this pref in the UI?


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

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On 4/9/2018 at 11:55 AM, Jonathan N. Little created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 4/9/2018 at 10:14 AM, Cecil Bankston created this epitome of 
digital genius:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display 
their included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, 
and the block images box is not checked.  An example of this is 
messages I receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A 
"View it in your browser" link in one of these messages points to 
this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in 
these messages?


Same here.  If I restart in Safe Mode all the Web page images load.  
No idea what's causing it.




WFM. I would go into data manager and lookup domain and delete the 
permissions for that domain. Then try again.


Tried that, no joy.

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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/9/2018 at 10:14 AM, Cecil Bankston created this epitome of digital 
genius:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their 
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the 
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your 
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?


Same here.  If I restart in Safe Mode all the Web page images load.  No 
idea what's causing it.


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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/3/2018 at 8:47 AM, Bill Spikowski created this epitome of digital 
genius:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:
For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my 
bookmarks the same on several computers.


A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to 
a commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and 
the fee was modest.


Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it 
into Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass 
made this announcement:



On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?


As long as you're not using SM on more than one of those computers at 
the same time, there's no reason why you can't move your SM profile 
(which includes the bookmarks) to a cloud service, and then sync that 
folder on multiple computers through the cloud service.


I currently have my SM profile on OneDrive, which both my desktop and 
laptop are sync'd to. When I grab the laptop for a road trip, all my 
current bookmarks (and emails!) are there; when I return home, 
everything I did on the road is already on my desktop.  -JW


I hadn't ever considered doing that; I see how it could work.

But I notice that Seamonkey sometimes doesn't shut down properly; a 
process is still running in the background. I'd hardly even notice but 
when that happens, the email module keeps downloading IMAP messages from 
the server, which means I can't see new messages from my other 
computers. That's not really a big problem, but I'm trying to imagine 
what might happen if my profile is located on a cloud service and SM is 
still running on another computer...


I've never had to kill SM, never seen it refuse to close.  It does 
sometimes take 10 or 15 seconds to shut down as it's doing some 
housekeeping.



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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/1/2018 at 1:05 AM, cmcadams created this epitome of digital genius:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 6:49 PM, cmcadams wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and
DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because
after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I 
suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being 
valid,

it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in
the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The
format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.



To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
successfully, insert
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
as the very first line of user.js and
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
that the semicolon (;) is required.

Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
bar).  You should see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
instead see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed

This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
it) with Firefox.



Thank you, I've saved this.

Does anyone know for certain which Windows programs will work to edit 
and save SM
config files? And with what settings? Are they ASCII? ANSI? I figured 
that's where I

went wrong, trying to edit prefs.js.



The prefs.js file is plain ASCII text.  Unlike Daniel, I prefer always
using Wordpad.  I even set Wordpad as the default appplication for when
I select "Edit" on the context menu for all .js files.


So at least there's no need to worry about that. I can just right-click 
"Open with" and use Notepad or Wordpad depending on size.




If using Wordpad just make sure that you Save As Text. There are other 
formats WP can use that will totally screw up your file.




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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

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On 3/31/2018 at 2:38 PM, cmcadams created this epitome of digital genius:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/30/18 10:25 PM, cmcadams wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 3/30/2018 at 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran created this epitome of 
digital genius:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account 
using SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the 
following page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success
<

Re: prefs.js is not for user manipulation

[Ed Mullen]

On 3/30/2018 at 3:13 PM, Felix Miata created this epitome of digital genius:

Ed Mullen composed on 2018-03-30 11:32 (UTC-0400):


You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to
chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:



user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


Never add anything to prefs.js if you're not 200% certain you know what you are
doing and how to undo the damage from a mistake. Either include it in user.js,
or include via about:config. User.js is an optional file that SM will only read,
never write.



"When you launch your Mozilla application, valid preferences you've 
added to the user.js file are automatically copied to the prefs.js file 
(located in the same profile folder) where all user-set preferences are 
stored. For this reason, you should make a backup copy of the prefs.js 
file before you create or edit the user.js file."


http://kb.mozillazine.org/User.js_file

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

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On 3/30/2018 at 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran created this epitome of digital 
genius:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account using 
SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the following 
page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

[Ed Mullen]

On 3/20/2018 at 10:22 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 9:10 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 3/20/2018 at 9:55 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 8:36 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) for 
a while and visit different sites and open and close windows and 
such, eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to the 
point of almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows 
(which takes ages since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before 
SeaMonkey will start being usable again. In some cases I have to 
force-close SeaMonkey completly because its totally hung and simply 
wont respond to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great 
way to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost 
no free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey 
was using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I 
attached to SM with a debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the 
windows memory allocation code (i.e. that was what was on top of the 
call stack) with some mozglue memory allocation code the next thing 
after the windows code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that 
can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my 
plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, 
JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus 
Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as 
plugins) be the cause of the problems?


Yes, I have seen this as well. I am using a build of SM 2.53 and I've 
seen it happen browsing regular sites. It seems to be either a memory 
leak or the browser not releasing memory though garbage collection / 
cycle collection. I would not hold out hope for a fix since there are 
not many people working on SM at the moment.


I'm not seeing this at all.  SM 2.49.2 Win 10 Pro 64-bit.

I suspect an add-on or combination of add-ons.  I suggest trying Safe 
Mode to see if that is it.




I thought it was an add-on as well. Frank-Reiner had me switch to uBlock 
as I too thought ABP was culprit. Nope. I can 100% repro it when 
browsing on Momondo and AirBNB for a short period of time (15-30 
minutes) on my home or office PC. I'm on Win 7 x64 but I doubt it makes 
any difference.


Have you tried Safe Mode?

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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

[Ed Mullen]

On 3/20/2018 at 9:55 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 8:36 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) for a 
while and visit different sites and open and close windows and such, 
eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to the point of 
almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows (which takes 
ages since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before SeaMonkey will start 
being usable again. In some cases I have to force-close SeaMonkey 
completly because its totally hung and simply wont respond to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great 
way to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost no 
free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey was 
using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I attached 
to SM with a debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the windows memory 
allocation code (i.e. that was what was on top of the call stack) with 
some mozglue memory allocation code the next thing after the windows 
code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that 
can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my 
plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, 
JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus 
Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as 
plugins) be the cause of the problems?


Yes, I have seen this as well. I am using a build of SM 2.53 and I've 
seen it happen browsing regular sites. It seems to be either a memory 
leak or the browser not releasing memory though garbage collection / 
cycle collection. I would not hold out hope for a fix since there are 
not many people working on SM at the moment.


I'm not seeing this at all.  SM 2.49.2 Win 10 Pro 64-bit.

I suspect an add-on or combination of add-ons.  I suggest trying Safe 
Mode to see if that is it.


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Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails

[Ed Mullen]

On 3/18/2018 at 12:54 PM, Mort Linder created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Hi,

I have a recurring problem.  type up an e-mail with neat vertical 
columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, 
making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail.


How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure?

Thanks,

Mort Linder

---
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https://www.avast.com/antivirus



How are you making the columns?  In plain text using spaces?  Inserting 
a table?  Composing in plain text or HTML?


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Re: Combining Bookmarks folders

[Ed Mullen]

On 3/13/2018 at 2:25 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

Ed Mullen wrote on 13/03/18 01:29:

On 3/12/2018 at 9:03 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:
I'm trying to combine two Bookmarks folders to ensure I have a single 
listing of all the websites whos content I have been interested in 
over the years.


I've added the second bookmarks file to the first bookmarks file 
which has given me a listing with lots of doubled up sub-directories, 
e.g. two "General" directories, two "Financial" directories, two 
"Mozilla" directories, etc., etc..


If I, now, export the file as a HTML file (Tools->Export HTML...) 
would I then be able to edit that file in LibreOffice, or some such, 
delete all the twins, combine what's left and the import it back into 
SeaMonkey (Tools->Import HTML ..).


If not, could someone offer another suggestion?

Thanks.



Why not just edit it in SeaMonkey's bookmarks manager?

I started doing that, Ed, but there are lots and lots of sub-folders 
with lots of locations/websites in each. Probable 300 in original folder 
and similar in the other!


Don't I remember some add-on that would go through the Bookmarks folder 
and indicate any double-ups?? Maybe that's what EE is about to tell me!! 
Nope, so still looking!




Google is your friend?

<https://www.google.com/search?q=seamonkey%20bookmark%20duplicate_rd=ssl>


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Re: Combining Bookmarks folders

[Ed Mullen]

On 3/12/2018 at 9:03 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:
I'm trying to combine two Bookmarks folders to ensure I have a single 
listing of all the websites whos content I have been interested in over 
the years.


I've added the second bookmarks file to the first bookmarks file which 
has given me a listing with lots of doubled up sub-directories, e.g. two 
"General" directories, two "Financial" directories, two "Mozilla" 
directories, etc., etc..


If I, now, export the file as a HTML file (Tools->Export HTML...) would 
I then be able to edit that file in LibreOffice, or some such, delete 
all the twins, combine what's left and the import it back into SeaMonkey 
(Tools->Import HTML ..).


If not, could someone offer another suggestion?

Thanks.



Why not just edit it in SeaMonkey's bookmarks manager?

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Re: Change User Agent for one domain only

[Ed Mullen]

On 3/7/2018 at 12:13 PM, Hawker created this epitome of digital genius:

Could use some advise on User Agent switching.

I am currently using User Agent Switcher.
I find using it, and updating the UAs in it anything less than intuitive.

What I mostly want to do is have all Google domain use default to the 
current FireFox UA as much of Google does not work properly with 
Seamonkey's UA but works fine when I switch it. I can't see how to lock 
that in with User Agent Switcher. I want everything else to default to 
Seamonkey.


The other thing that would be nice is to easily toggle between two 
different user agents. The one for SM and the FireFox one for the same 
Geko revision as easily as I do with AutoPlay.


Is there a way to do either of these?  Am I just an idiot on using User 
Agent Switcher?


Add to prefs.js ...

user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


I use this for chase.com which is ignorant of SM and tells me to upgrade 
my browser.



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Re: SM locks up when on FoxNews.com

[Ed Mullen]

On 3/7/2018 at 12:05 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:

DoctorBill wrote:

I look to FoxNews often.
Of late, SM becomes simply unresponsive - especially to the Login.

If left alone, a message comes up about a script running, etc.

How do I stop any web site from running scripts ?
If I can't, what can I do to prevent these lock ups (a script running) ?

DoctorBill


I just downloaded "NoScript" and started it up.

It confuses an old man like me !

How do I make it stop FoxNews.com's Scripts ?


Don't know NoScript but you can temporarily turn off javascript at:

Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Scripts and Plugins.

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Re: seamonkey unsupported at kroger.com

[Mr. Ed]

On 02/25/18 2:29 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
> A Williams wrote on 25-02-18 10:13:
>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>>>
>>> Correct, So what can we do to convince the SM developpers that the
>>> "Advertising firefox compatibility" should put FireFox-version in the
>>> final part of the UA string ?
>>
>> You are aware you can change the UA string yourself?  I forget how but it is
>> apparently trivial.
> Yes, But that's not the better solution. When this is done by SM itself the
> newbies are better served
> And If you change the UA string yourself at EVERY upgrade version YOU must do
> it again and again.

Use the add-on "PrefBar" .  Enter once and only change it when you want to.
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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/23/2018 at 1:02 PM, Ed Mullen created this epitome of digital genius:
On 2/23/2018 at 12:44 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe 
for spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I 
don't remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  
- IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive 
of one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to 
right at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


Try just *spag* instead. Make sure you have the correct drive selected 
in Windows Explorer (yes, that's what it's called).




Oops!  That should read AsteriskspagAsterisk.  Just in case your SM 
transforms that into bold and doesn't show the asterisks.


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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/23/2018 at 12:44 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


Try just *spag* instead. Make sure you have the correct drive selected 
in Windows Explorer (yes, that's what it's called).


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Re: Stitching together multiple page HTML into single page.

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/23/2018 at 7:12 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:

On 02/22/2018 09:07 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 2/22/2018 at 5:43 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of 
digital genius:
There are sites containing relatively complex documentation. The 
authors chose to break it down in chunks of one HTML page per section.


That is convenient for those viewing it online. I read that level of 
documentation offline. I prefer it as a single page format so I can 
easily text search across section boundaries.


Suggestions?
TIA




A quick search turned up:

<http://softsnow.griffin3.com/merger/merger.shtml>

Not used it myself.



That is the type of program I'm looking for.
What were your search terms? I didn't know what to search for.
I'm looking for a Linux program, but do have a dusty WinXP machine nearby.



"html merge" no quotes


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Re: Stitching together multiple page HTML into single page.

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/22/2018 at 5:43 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:
There are sites containing relatively complex documentation. The authors 
chose to break it down in chunks of one HTML page per section.


That is convenient for those viewing it online. I read that level of 
documentation offline. I prefer it as a single page format so I can 
easily text search across section boundaries.


Suggestions?
TIA




Well, the simple (most tedious) way is to open file 1 in a text editor, 
open file 2, copy file 2's code and paste it into file 1.  Save file 1 
with a new name.  etc.  You'll likely get odd things happening, 
especially if the pages are from different sites.


Also, Google something like "merge html" no quotes.

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Re: Stitching together multiple page HTML into single page.

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/22/2018 at 5:43 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:
There are sites containing relatively complex documentation. The authors 
chose to break it down in chunks of one HTML page per section.


That is convenient for those viewing it online. I read that level of 
documentation offline. I prefer it as a single page format so I can 
easily text search across section boundaries.


Suggestions?
TIA




A quick search turned up:

<http://softsnow.griffin3.com/merger/merger.shtml>

Not used it myself.

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Re: Stitching together multiple page HTML into single page.

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/22/2018 at 7:19 AM, Paul B. Gallagher created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Richard Owlett wrote:

There are sites containing relatively complex documentation. The 
authors chose to break it down in chunks of one HTML page per section.


That is convenient for those viewing it online. I read that level of 
documentation offline. I prefer it as a single page format so I can 
easily text search across section boundaries.


Suggestions?
TIA


In Google, search as follows:
 "owlett" site:flurbish.com
which will find all instances of the search string in the named domain.

Then open each hit in a new window while keeping the list open for later 
use.




Paul, that search returned:

"Your search - "owlett" site:flurbish.com - did not match any documents."

Not sure what you were trying to accomplish.

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Re: Strange punctuation randomly inserted in email

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/21/2018 at 11:17 PM, cmcadams created this epitome of digital genius:
This is interesting. As an experiment I changed my SM 2.49.2 default 
SMTP from smtp.att.yahoo.com to smtp.gmail.com. Then I tried repeating 
the example I tried before with the same results. BUT...Seamonkey was 
NOT using Gmail's SMTP server, if the box that pops up after you click 
Send is a true indication. It was still using att.yahoo.com.


Either something's wrong or PEBKAC...


Change the SMTP server for the email account itself.  It may be set to 
use a specific server instead of the default.



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Re: SeaMonkey Windows 64bits

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/20/2018 at 9:04 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl created this epitome of 
digital genius:

10 comes with edge but IE can be installed too for backwards compatibility.

Both are ... but you can use them to download SeaMonkey or another 
browser of you choice:)


<https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-networking-winpc/how-to-locate-and-open-internet-explorer-in/4b067f8b-a0dc-4fba-9e63-00fb14ea82e8?auth=1>

http://tinyurl.com/ybe92nhb


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Re: Change from 2.51 to 2.49?

[Mr. Ed]

  
  
On 02/16/18 5:10 PM, Mark B wrote:

Windows 10
  Home
  
  
  I have been using a 64 bit Seamonkey:
  
  
  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
  SeaMonkey/2.51  Build identifier: 20170619085306
  
  
  that I downloaded from:
  
  
  https://www.m64.info/index.php/seamonkey-64-bit-download
  
  
  It has been working just fine with all my add-ons.  I tried
  installing their SM 2.52 version, but all the add-ons became
  inoperable.  Went back to 2.51.
  
  
  My question is, should I dump the (older) 2.51 version and install
  the official 2.49 version?
  
  
  TIA
  
  


  Similar problem -  I had been using 2.51 with no problem then
  tried 2.53 - lots of problems.  Now I'm using the regular 32 bit
  release 2.49.2.  Enough of the playing around.
  We need official 64  bit versions.

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Re: Yahoo email no longer works with seamonkey.

[Mr. Ed]

On 02/07/18 10:08 PM, cmcadams wrote:
> alex zuber wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 12:52:34 PM UTC-4, Black Fig Pizza Company
>> wrote:
>>> Yahoo is asking for upgrade to a different browser.
>>
>> Relly
>>
>
> Still working without complaints here on 2.49.1. One difference might be that
> I'm using it through AT That is, Yahoo is (or was) AT default email
> provider.
>
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
> SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Was working for me also in 2.49.1 but not working in 2.49.2.  What changed?

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Re: [half-solved] Re: How to remoce a proposal of a text-input zone of a form.

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/15/2018 at 1:16 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl created this epitome of 
digital genius:

 > The question is: Where is located this list or proposals ?

formhistory.sqlite in the profile

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 15-02-18 17:08:

Hi !
In a form I filled a field with "44101937945" and then once I typed 
"4" now he offers me both - how to remove the second proposal "4" 
from the list ?


Deleting cookies doesnot work.


I say "half-solved" because I found the way to remove the second 
proposal.
When the second proposal is high-lighted - just click on the "delete" 
key.


So far, so good.
The question is: Where is located this list or proposals ?


I believe it's in your profile folder in formhistory.sqlite.

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Re: Composer Integration into Mail

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/7/2018 at 11:33 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:
As an end user, I would like to see it kept as long as possible. It 
allows me create simple HTML pages for use on my own machine.




For folks seeking an alternative to Composer try Kompozer, Blue Griffon, 
and others.


<http://www.hostsearch.com/articles/the-5-best-free-wysiwyg-alternatives-to-dreamweaver.asp>


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/8/2018 at 5:34 AM, meagain created this epitome of digital genius:

 Original Message 

Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/ 



Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P



Ewong, the American English idiom is "knock on wood" - is that what you 
meant?


Actually, both of those are American idioms.

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Re: SeaMonkey as remedy for a {youtube|gmail|cookie|OAuth 2.0} problem?

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/7/2018 at 11:03 AM, Richard Owlett created this epitome of digital 
genius:

My use of SeaMonkey dates from preferences evolved in Netscape days.
My brother (using Firefox on Windows 10) for browsing and gmail has 
noticed recent problems. His problem description is anonymously viewing 
youtube videos triggers a burst of unsolicited emails.


I'm a Linux user with no interest in videos and who avoids social media 
like the plague since contact with Facebook years ago. Thus I've no 
personal experience to help interpret his descriptions. I can not 
personally observe the problem as he lives 1000 miles away.

You can using Teamviewer.  It's free.

https://www.teamviewer.us/downloads/

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