Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Jonathan N. Little]

EE wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 23-02-18 18:44:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$ &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe 
for spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I 
don't remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search" 
- IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive 
of one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to 
right at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it 
responds INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill

Perhaps using :
SUPER FINDER XP
From: http://fsl.sytes.net/ssearchxt.html


What happens if you leave out the asterisks?



or specifically for a filename

filename:*.spag*.*

or

file:*.spag*.*

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[EE]

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 23-02-18 18:44:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$ &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe 
for spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I 
don't remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search" - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive 
of one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to 
right at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill

Perhaps using :
SUPER FINDER XP
From: http://fsl.sytes.net/ssearchxt.html


What happens if you leave out the asterisks?

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


Thank you Gentlemen !  I have downloaded all three mentioned here.

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[David E. Ross]

On 2/23/2018 9:44 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
> I hate Windows 7 !
> I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !
> 
> I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
> the Upper Right Side
> of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)
> 
> I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
> spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
> remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
> I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
> IMMEDIATE.
> I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
> one terabyte capacity !
> Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
> at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
> INSTANTLY - no search was really done.
> 
> HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?
> 
> DoctorBill
> 

If you are searching for a file by its name, extension, date, or
anything else but not its content, try Everything from
<http://www.voidtools.com/>.  It is fast.

If you are searching for a file by its contents, try Agent Ransack from
<https://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/>.  It is much slower than
Everything, but it has to examine the contents of every file within the
scope of its search.

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Ray_Net]

DoctorBill wrote on 23-02-18 18:44:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$ &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe 
for spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I 
don't remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  
- IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive 
of one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to 
right at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill

Perhaps using :
SUPER FINDER XP
From: http://fsl.sytes.net/ssearchxt.html
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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Paul in Houston, TX]

DoctorBill wrote:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on the Upper 
Right Side
of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an
old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't remember the exact NAME 
i saved it
under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of one 
terabyte
capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right at the 
top - it is
searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds INSTANTLY - no search was really 
done.

HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


I dumped Win search on day 1 of win7 and installed Everything and Ransack.
Everything is slightly faster than Ransack but Ransack can also searche within 
files.
https://www.voidtools.com/
https://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

Have you installed Classic Shell yet?
It makes 7 look much like xp.

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/23/2018 at 1:02 PM, Ed Mullen created this epitome of digital genius:
On 2/23/2018 at 12:44 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe 
for spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I 
don't remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  
- IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive 
of one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to 
right at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


Try just *spag* instead. Make sure you have the correct drive selected 
in Windows Explorer (yes, that's what it's called).




Oops!  That should read AsteriskspagAsterisk.  Just in case your SM 
transforms that into bold and doesn't show the asterisks.


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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[NFN Smith]

DoctorBill wrote:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)





HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?


There's lots of power to the search tool, but there's a lot of cryptic 
options that you have to use to actually get it to do what you want it 
to do. To me, the search tool is sufficiently cryptic that it's not 
really useful for anybody that's not a techie (e.g., the sort of person 
that does a lot of scripting).  It also falls short in that it tends to 
blur the difference between data and metadata, and you have to go to 
extra effort to tell it to search only for file names, rather than 
searching for contents within files.


For me, the limit of the search tool is in context-based searching:

- Searching for file names in a sub-folder, using the Windows Explorer 
(and yes, that's still the name in Windows 7)


- Searching using the search box in the Start menu

- Searching the Control Panel. If I have the Control Panel open, it's 
easier to use the search tool to find specific things than it is to try 
to remember the navigation to get there. I find that this method works 
remarkably well in Win 7 and 8.1, and it's enough that I can pretty much 
ignore the mostly brain-dead UI offered in the Win 10 Control Panel and 
Settings applet.


Beyond that, if I need to do searching, I generally resort to 
non-Microsoft tools.  I find that I really like the controls offered by 
Agent Ransack, and by putting an icon for that in my toolbar that I 
locate next to the start button, I can get to that one quickly with 
Logo-1, as easily as I can get to the Windows search tool with Logo-F.


There's other third-party search tools -- one of the most common is 
Everything, which is open source.  One difference between Agent Ransack 
and Everything is that I believe that Agent Ransack will use Microsoft's 
indexing, where Everything relies on an index that it has to build.


I'm enough of a Linux guy that I have Cygwin, and for some things, I 
prefer to drop out to Cygwin bash command window, and use 'find' from 
there.  That's not dramatically simpler than the syntax of the Win 7, so 
much as I've used it enough over the years that I'm adept in using it.


Smith

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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[Ed Mullen]

On 2/23/2018 at 12:44 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


Try just *spag* instead. Make sure you have the correct drive selected 
in Windows Explorer (yes, that's what it's called).


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Re: Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill


I am sorry - I realize this is not a Windows News Groupapologies !

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Using Windows 7 "Search" - won't search !

[DoctorBill]

I hate Windows 7 !
I knew XP quite well, but Windows 7 is a ^#$@#^%$$  &^%&$$#O^E !

I try to search for a file on my hard drive(s) and use that window on 
the Upper Right Side

of Windows Explorer (is that still the name of it?)

I type in something - like *.spag*.*   --- looking for an old recipe for 
spaghetti in an old WORD file.   I use the wildcard (*) because I don't 
remember the exact NAME i saved it under years ago.
I press enter and I get an IMMEDIATE "No Items To Match Your Search"  - 
IMMEDIATE.
I know it didn't search squat - I am looking thru an ENTIRE USB drive of 
one terabyte capacity !
Once in a blue moon, I can see the blue bar progress from left to right 
at the top - it is searching !  But 99% of the time, it responds 
INSTANTLY - no search was really done.


HOW do I get this $&@%# program to actually DO a search for a file ?

DoctorBill
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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[JAS]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/24/2016 at 10:56 AM, JAS's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:




Will Tagzilla still work in Seamonkey? I had used it but it seems that
if quit and I did switch to PAT and had no problem with it.



It stopped working at one point but Philip Chee fixed it and I believe
it works with current SM.

I tried it and it will not work for me using SM 2.40 on XP SP3. I 
installed jslib 1.33 and restarted and tried to install the latest 
tagzilla I could find which was .066.2 but it showed .64 and would 
install but would not accept a list. At one time I had a 0.7a1 installed 
with jslib 14 installed and worked but had uninstalled it when it quit 
at one time.


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/24/2016 at 1:50 PM, Paul B. Gallagher's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote:


One file, yes.  You could create a new SM profile, one English, one
French, and use different tagline files for each.


Another possible workaround:

Create one file that contains a 50:50 mix of English and French
taglines. Then when you click "Reply," if you get the wrong language,
just discard it and try again. Two tries gives you a 75% chance, three
tries an 88% chance, four tries a 93% chance, ... 10 tries a 99.9%
chance, etc.



Nice idea but PAT automatically inserts a tag when you open a compose
window.  There's no way to insert a tag once the compose window is open.


No, I'm saying discard (close) the compose window. Whether it's a new 
message or a reply, you haven't "lost your work" if you do so before 
typing any of your message.


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/24/2016 at 1:50 PM, Paul B. Gallagher's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote:


One file, yes.  You could create a new SM profile, one English, one
French, and use different tagline files for each.


Another possible workaround:

Create one file that contains a 50:50 mix of English and French
taglines. Then when you click "Reply," if you get the wrong language,
just discard it and try again. Two tries gives you a 75% chance, three
tries an 88% chance, four tries a 93% chance, ... 10 tries a 99.9%
chance, etc.



Nice idea but PAT automatically inserts a tag when you open a compose 
window.  There's no way to insert a tag once the compose window is open.


However, if you right-click PAT and choose Settings, you can click the 
Last Result tab and see what's there.  If it's the wrong language click 
the Pick-a-Tab tab and click for a new tagline.  Could be a little 
tedious to finally get the right language tagline.  /Then/ open a 
compose/reply/forward window.


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:


One file, yes.  You could create a new SM profile, one English, one
French, and use different tagline files for each.


Another possible workaround:

Create one file that contains a 50:50 mix of English and French 
taglines. Then when you click "Reply," if you get the wrong language, 
just discard it and try again. Two tries gives you a 75% chance, three 
tries an 88% chance, four tries a 93% chance, ... 10 tries a 99.9% 
chance, etc.


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/24/2016 at 12:21 PM, Ray_Net's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote on 24/10/2016 17:51:

On 10/24/2016 at 5:41 AM, Ray_Net's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote on 23/10/2016 17:42:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore
and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:




Good ideas, but sometime I write in english, and sometime I write in
French so in what language is the tag file list ? :-)


I forget how Tagzilla works but PAT uses a simple plain-text file for
the taglines. So use whatever language you like and your text editor
supports. Mine has over 500 lines which PAT inserts randomly.  If you
are interested the file is:




I understand correctly, but how can I choose the tag-file of the
language I am interest at  - for the mail I wrote (this mail is written
in french or in english, and it would be better to pick a tag in the
same language)?
So I need TWO files, one in english and one in french .. But I think
that PAT use only one file ...


One file, yes.  You could create a new SM profile, one English, one 
French, and use different tagline files for each.



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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote on 24/10/2016 17:51:

On 10/24/2016 at 5:41 AM, Ray_Net's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote on 23/10/2016 17:42:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:
I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore 
and it

leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:




Good ideas, but sometime I write in english, and sometime I write in
French so in what language is the tag file list ? :-)


I forget how Tagzilla works but PAT uses a simple plain-text file for 
the taglines. So use whatever language you like and your text editor 
supports. Mine has over 500 lines which PAT inserts randomly.  If you 
are interested the file is:




I understand correctly, but how can I choose the tag-file of the 
language I am interest at  - for the mail I wrote (this mail is written 
in french or in english, and it would be better to pick a tag in the 
same language)?
So I need TWO files, one in english and one in french .. But I think 
that PAT use only one file ...

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/24/2016 at 10:56 AM, JAS's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:




Will Tagzilla still work in Seamonkey? I had used it but it seems that
if quit and I did switch to PAT and had no problem with it.



It stopped working at one point but Philip Chee fixed it and I believe 
it works with current SM.


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look at the obituary page. If my name is not on it, I get up." - 
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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/24/2016 at 5:41 AM, Ray_Net's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote on 23/10/2016 17:42:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:




Good ideas, but sometime I write in english, and sometime I write in
French so in what language is the tag file list ? :-)


I forget how Tagzilla works but PAT uses a simple plain-text file for 
the taglines. So use whatever language you like and your text editor 
supports. Mine has over 500 lines which PAT inserts randomly.  If you 
are interested the file is:




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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[JAS]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:



Will Tagzilla still work in Seamonkey? I had used it but it seems that 
if quit and I did switch to PAT and had no problem with it.


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote on 23/10/2016 17:42:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:



Good ideas, but sometime I write in english, and sometime I write in 
French so in what language is the tag file list ? :-)

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ant]

On 10/23/2016 1:22 PM, G. Ross wrote:


I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm still using RTM.  Works for me.


What is RTM? URL?


Random Tagline Manager

http://programs.fbrower.com/


Thanks. :)
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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[W3BNR]

On 10/23/16 1:28 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 10/23/2016 9:18 AM, W3BNR wrote:
>> On 10/23/16 11:42 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:
 I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
 leaks memory. :(

 Thank you in advance. :)
>>>
>>> Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Tagzilla is another:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>> Likewise.  PAT still working fine with Windows 10, and SeaMonkey.
>
> Awesome, Ed. I am glad you still have the installer for me to reinstall 
> again. :D

Responded directly.

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[G. Ross]

Ant wrote:

On 10/23/2016 4:51 AM, G. Ross wrote:

Ant wrote:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm still using RTM.  Works for me.


What is RTM? URL?


Random Tagline Manager

http://programs.fbrower.com/

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/23/2016 at 1:28 PM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

On 10/23/2016 9:18 AM, W3BNR wrote:

On 10/23/16 11:42 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:




Likewise.  PAT still working fine with Windows 10, and SeaMonkey.


Awesome, Ed. I am glad you still have the installer for me to reinstall
again. :D


HTH.  :-)

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ant]

On 10/23/2016 9:18 AM, W3BNR wrote:

On 10/23/16 11:42 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:




Likewise.  PAT still working fine with Windows 10, and SeaMonkey.


Awesome, Ed. I am glad you still have the installer for me to reinstall 
again. :D

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ant]

On 10/23/2016 4:51 AM, G. Ross wrote:

Ant wrote:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm still using RTM.  Works for me.


What is RTM? URL?
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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[W3BNR]

  
  
On 10/23/16 11:42 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On
  10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:
  
  I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have
its installer anymore and it

leaks memory. :(


Thank you in advance. :)

  
  
  Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.
  
  
  
  
  
  Tagzilla is another:
  
  
  
  
  

Likewise.  PAT still working fine with
  Windows 10, and SeaMonkey.

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:



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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[G. Ross]

Ant wrote:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm still using RTM.  Works for me.

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What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ant]

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it 
leaks memory. :(


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Using Windows 7 with SM v2.40 what's the point in switching to W10?

[NFN Smith]

Richard Alan wrote:

Daniel wrote:


NFN Smith wrote:

My view is that if you *want* Win 10, go for it.  However, if you
decide that you can live without things like Cortana or Windows Ink,
wait until you decide you're ready for a new machine.  Remember Win 10
support will continue until sometime in 2020.


"Remember Win 10 support will continue until sometime in 2020."


PEBCAK on my part.  I had meant to say that Win 7 goes through 2020.



Windows 10 end-of-life is currently October 2025. But don't be surprised
if it is a "subscription service" by then. Pay every year.


Yep.

So far, Microsoft has been promoting Win 10 as essentially a "rolling 
release", and marketing insists that Win 10 will be the "last release of 
Windows". They also insist that a Windows license will be good for the 
life of the machine, although tied to the machine itself, and not 
transferable to another machine, whether it's an OEM license or not.


It wouldn't surprise me if they figure out a way of doing Windows as a 
paid subscription service, although it's likely they would do something 
that's essentially a grandfathering, where installations already in 
service would be exempt, but where new installations would have a 
slightly different licensing, one that requires periodic payment.


Smith
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Re: Using Windows 7 with SM v2.40 what's the point in switching to W10?

[Richard Alan]

Daniel wrote:

> NFN Smith wrote:
>> My view is that if you *want* Win 10, go for it.  However, if you
>> decide that you can live without things like Cortana or Windows Ink,
>> wait until you decide you're ready for a new machine.  Remember Win 10
>> support will continue until sometime in 2020.
>
> "Remember Win 10 support will continue until sometime in 2020."

Windows 10 end-of-life is currently October 2025. But don't be surprised 
if it is a "subscription service" by then. Pay every year.

> Hmm! Didn't I read, hereabouts, in the last few days, that Win7 support
> would continue until 2020'ish?? Or did I mis-read, or mis-remember??

Yes, you did read that. Windows 7 support with security updates ends on 
January 14, 2020. It is *not* going to stop working on that date.   :-)

Of course, Microsoft could change their mind before then. 
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Re: Using Windows 7 with SM v2.40 what's the point in switching to W10?

[Daniel]

On 21/07/2016 8:53 AM, NFN Smith wrote:



My view is that if you *want* Win 10, go for it.  However, if you decide
that you can live without things like Cortana or Windows Ink, wait until
you decide you're ready for a new machine.  Remember Win 10 support will
continue until sometime in 2020.

Smith


"Remember Win 10 support will continue until sometime in 2020."

Hmm! Didn't I read, hereabouts, in the last few days, that Win7 support 
would continue until 2020'ish?? Or did I mis-read, or mis-remember??


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SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951

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Re: Using Windows 7 with SM v2.40 what's the point in switching to W10?

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cqbrodie wrote:

Are there any worthwhile points/advantages to switch from Windows 7 to
Windows 10?

I realize that MS will not support Windows 7  beyond some close date,
but what else is there to W10 that is worthwhile?


If you're starting from a new machine, Win 10 is probably OK, although 
you have to decide how comfortable you are with Microsoft's "Windows as 
a Service" approach, including the telemetry (and tuning it) and the 
forced upgrades coming from Microsoft.


Win 10 may be "the most secure version of Windows ever", but Microsoft 
has been pulling that one out with every release of Windows since at 
least XP.  It's true (and I would consider a release to be fatally 
flawed, if it wasn't), but it's not that big of a deal.


Personally, I don't see anything sufficiently compelling to be worth the 
costs (time and effort) of an upgrade.  To me, Win 7 does more to meet 
Microsoft's needs than my needs.


To me, the biggest potential negative to an upgrade (beyond the 
telemetry and forced upgrades) is compatibility issues of drivers and 
older software.  If you're running the most current releases of 
application software, most of the time, you should be fine. With 
drivers, there's some hardware vendors that aren't bothering to do win 
10 versions of their drivers, and if you have a an installation that's 
more than about 3 years old, then there are chances that you could have 
conflicts. I know that when Win 10 was released a year ago, HP published 
a list of machines that they would support (and had tested on Win 10 
upgrades), but anything on that list (even if otherwise supported by HP) 
would not be supported for Win 10 upgrades.


The place where you're most likely to have problems would be networking, 
video display and possibly printers. For older devices, be prepared that 
you may need to replace them, and if you have a laptop, that may mean 
going to external devices that connect through USB.


BTW, your subject line reads "3.40" (which caught my eye, and I've 
corrected in this response).


As far as I'm aware SM 2.40 works fine with Windows 10. I haven't done a 
lot with Win 10, other than testing on virtual machines (including one 
that I upgraded from Win 7). I haven't had any problem with Seamonkey, 
but I don't have any live data, and my profiles are pretty much default, 
without much tweaking of preferences, or use of extensions.


My view is that if you *want* Win 10, go for it.  However, if you decide 
that you can live without things like Cortana or Windows Ink, wait until 
you decide you're ready for a new machine.  Remember Win 10 support will 
continue until sometime in 2020.


Smith

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Re: Using Windows 7 with SM v3.40 what's the point in switching to W10?

[TCW]

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 10:48:01 -0700, cqbrodie <cqbro...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Are there any worthwhile points/advantages to switch from Windows 7 to 
>Windows 10?
>
>I realize that MS will not support Windows 7  beyond some close date, 
>but what else is there to W10 that is worthwhile?
>
>Thanks for any comments.
>Cliff

I still dislike the UI of Win8/10. If you are ok with it, rock on.
Windows 7 support will end Jan 14, 2020 so you still have some time.
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Using Windows 7 with SM v3.40 what's the point in switching to W10?

[cqbrodie]

Are there any worthwhile points/advantages to switch from Windows 7 to 
Windows 10?


I realize that MS will not support Windows 7  beyond some close date, 
but what else is there to W10 that is worthwhile?


Thanks for any comments.
Cliff

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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[Lee]

On 11/21/14, stan pierce s.c.pie...@comcast.net wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 stan pierce wrote:

 Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do I
 know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.

 JavaScript comes with/within the browser. You don't need to install
 anything else. Unless you mean you want to install something completely
 separate from SeaMonkey. Please be more specific.

 I keep getting notices that there are Java updates, but none of the
 updates work. The message I get is: The feature you are trying to use is
 on a network resource that is unavailable.  Try again or enter an
 alternate path to a folder containing the installation package
 jre1.7.0_60-c.msi in box below.

If you really need java, uninstall all versions of java from your
machine  install just the latest.
The current version of Java is 8u25 which you can get at
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

That said, you might be better off just uninstalling Java.  Oracle's
track record wrt security leaves much to be desired.

Regards,
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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[stan pierce]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/21/2014 5:17 PM, stan pierce wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/21/2014 4:36 PM, stan pierce wrote:

Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do I
know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.

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2.  Your signature block is faulty in two respects.  First of all, the
---  (dash-dash-dash-space) should be --  (only two dashes), without
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Where is my signature block?

I haven't figure out how to get rid of avast spam.

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The signature block is the text at the bottom of your message.  Mine has
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to strip away the signature block from the message you are quoting.

Avast should have a setting to suppress the advertisement.  In the AVG
anti-virus application, the advertisement is called certification.
AVG will add certification to incoming and outgoing messages, with
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How/where do I set the signature block?

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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[WaltS48]

On 11/22/2014 08:47 AM, stan pierce wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/21/2014 5:17 PM, stan pierce wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/21/2014 4:36 PM, stan pierce wrote:
Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How 
do I

know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.





1.  Java and JavaScript are two very different things.  Did you really
mean JavaScript?  Or did you mean Java?

2.  Your signature block is faulty in two respects.  First of all, the
---  (dash-dash-dash-space) should be --  (only two dashes), 
without

the quotes.  Second, you are providing advertising for Avast, which
makes your message a form of spam.  Spam is not allowed in any
news.mozilla.org newsgroups.  If you do not set your Avast options to
suppress that spam, you might find your future messages to this and
other news.mozilla.org newsgroups blocked.




Where is my signature block?

I haven't figure out how to get rid of avast spam.




The signature block is the text at the bottom of your message. Mine has
the correct --  (dash-dash-space) delimiter.  When you quote my
message in a reply or forward, your mail or news application is supposed
to strip away the signature block from the message you are quoting.

Avast should have a setting to suppress the advertisement.  In the AVG
anti-virus application, the advertisement is called certification.
AVG will add certification to incoming and outgoing messages, with
options to disable that separately for each of those.


How/where do I set the signature block?

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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[EE]

stan pierce wrote:

Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do I
know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.

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There is no need to install javascript.  It comes as part of web browsers.

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Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[stan pierce]

Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do I 
know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.


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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

stan pierce wrote:

 Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do I
 know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.

JavaScript comes with/within the browser. You don't need to install 
anything else. Unless you mean you want to install something completely 
separate from SeaMonkey. Please be more specific.

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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[David E. Ross]

On 11/21/2014 4:36 PM, stan pierce wrote:
 Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do I 
 know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.
 
 ---
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1.  Java and JavaScript are two very different things.  Did you really
mean JavaScript?  Or did you mean Java?

2.  Your signature block is faulty in two respects.  First of all, the
---  (dash-dash-dash-space) should be --  (only two dashes), without
the quotes.  Second, you are providing advertising for Avast, which
makes your message a form of spam.  Spam is not allowed in any
news.mozilla.org newsgroups.  If you do not set your Avast options to
suppress that spam, you might find your future messages to this and
other news.mozilla.org newsgroups blocked.



-- 
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I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639.
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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[stan pierce]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

stan pierce wrote:


Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do I
know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.


JavaScript comes with/within the browser. You don't need to install
anything else. Unless you mean you want to install something completely
separate from SeaMonkey. Please be more specific.





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Please go to Avast's options and turn off that spam message.


How do I turn off the spam message? I can't find it.

I keep getting notices that there are Java updates, but none of the 
updates work. The message I get is: The feature you are trying to use is 
on a network resource that is unavailable.  Try again or enter an 
alternate path to a folder containing the installation package 
jre1.7.0_60-c.msi in box below.


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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[stan pierce]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/21/2014 4:36 PM, stan pierce wrote:

Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do I
know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.

---
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1.  Java and JavaScript are two very different things.  Did you really
mean JavaScript?  Or did you mean Java?

2.  Your signature block is faulty in two respects.  First of all, the
---  (dash-dash-dash-space) should be --  (only two dashes), without
the quotes.  Second, you are providing advertising for Avast, which
makes your message a form of spam.  Spam is not allowed in any
news.mozilla.org newsgroups.  If you do not set your Avast options to
suppress that spam, you might find your future messages to this and
other news.mozilla.org newsgroups blocked.




Where is my signature block?

I haven't figure out how to get rid of avast spam.

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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[stan pierce]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

stan pierce wrote:


Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do I
know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.


JavaScript comes with/within the browser. You don't need to install
anything else. Unless you mean you want to install something completely
separate from SeaMonkey. Please be more specific.


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Please go to Avast's options and turn off that spam message.


Found out how to shut off the avast advertising.

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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

stan pierce wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 stan pierce wrote:
 Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do
 I know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.

 JavaScript comes with/within the browser. You don't need to install
 anything else. Unless you mean you want to install something completely
 separate from SeaMonkey. Please be more specific.
 
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 This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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 Please go to Avast's options and turn off that spam message.

 How do I turn off the spam message? I can't find it.
 
 I keep getting notices that there are Java updates, but none of the
 updates work. The message I get is: The feature you are trying to use is
 on a network resource that is unavailable.  Try again or enter an
 alternate path to a folder containing the installation package
 jre1.7.0_60-c.msi in box below.

Aha. You are confusing Java and JavaScript. They are two completely 
different things. For the most part, none of us need Java on our computers 
because in the main, it has too many security holes. I'll leave it to 
others to describe. I got rid of Java years ago.

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Here are some notes I found on that Avast spam problem:

Please search your Avast options for the place to turn off the insertion 
of the above spam. Thanks for your consideration. It's caused by your 
recently updated version, and it also has a malformed sig delimiter which 
causes it to be quoted by the unwary.

From the avast UI  Settings  Active Protection  Mail Shield  Settings
(gear icon)  Behavior - General section  Uncheck Insert note into
clean message (outgoing).

You also do not need to scan outgoing or incoming email or news posts.
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm

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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

[David E. Ross]

On 11/21/2014 5:17 PM, stan pierce wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/21/2014 4:36 PM, stan pierce wrote:
 Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do I
 know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.

 ---
 This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
 http://www.avast.com


 1.  Java and JavaScript are two very different things.  Did you really
 mean JavaScript?  Or did you mean Java?

 2.  Your signature block is faulty in two respects.  First of all, the
 ---  (dash-dash-dash-space) should be --  (only two dashes), without
 the quotes.  Second, you are providing advertising for Avast, which
 makes your message a form of spam.  Spam is not allowed in any
 news.mozilla.org newsgroups.  If you do not set your Avast options to
 suppress that spam, you might find your future messages to this and
 other news.mozilla.org newsgroups blocked.



 Where is my signature block?
 
 I haven't figure out how to get rid of avast spam.
 
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 http://www.avast.com
 

The signature block is the text at the bottom of your message.  Mine has
the correct --  (dash-dash-space) delimiter.  When you quote my
message in a reply or forward, your mail or news application is supposed
to strip away the signature block from the message you are quoting.

Avast should have a setting to suppress the advertisement.  In the AVG
anti-virus application, the advertisement is called certification.
AVG will add certification to incoming and outgoing messages, with
options to disable that separately for each of those.

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I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639.
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Re: Fixed -- Adobe Flash Player 11.3 - Bug 3223393: [Platform_Windows]Windows-7: Firefox Window loses focus every time Flash plugin processes are (re-)launched

[Larry]

Ant wrote:

https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3223393

Hi, this issue is fixed in internal build, you can get next beta build
from http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashruntimes/flashplayer/ to
verify your issue. Thanks! --Jing Yuan on 3:13:50 AM GMT+00:00 Jun 17,
2014

Finally fixed?!


Flash 14.0.0.125 exhibits all the previous problems with SM that have 
been discussed in this group.  The message I am getting is:


Warning Unresponsive Plug In
Shockwave Flash may be busy or it may have stopped responding

I am running two machines, one with Win 7 64b, the other vista 32b both 
with SM 2.26.1.  Flash still will not run on my Vista machine and focus 
is lost.  The problems also occurs on the Win 7 machine. I keep Flash 
disabled most of the time.  Recent prior versions of SM did not lose 
focus on either machine. Anyone else still having these or similar problems?


Larry

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Re: Fixed -- Adobe Flash Player 11.3 - Bug 3223393: [Platform_Windows]Windows-7: Firefox Window loses focus every time Flash plugin processes are (re-)launched

[WaltS48]

Larry wrote:

Ant wrote:

https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3223393

Hi, this issue is fixed in internal build, you can get next beta build
from http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashruntimes/flashplayer/ to
verify your issue. Thanks! --Jing Yuan on 3:13:50 AM GMT+00:00 Jun 17,
2014

Finally fixed?!


Flash 14.0.0.125 exhibits all the previous problems with SM that have
been discussed in this group.  The message I am getting is:

Warning Unresponsive Plug In
Shockwave Flash may be busy or it may have stopped responding

I am running two machines, one with Win 7 64b, the other vista 32b both
with SM 2.26.1.  Flash still will not run on my Vista machine and focus
is lost.  The problems also occurs on the Win 7 machine. I keep Flash
disabled most of the time.  Recent prior versions of SM did not lose
focus on either machine. Anyone else still having these or similar
problems?

Larry




Not having any problems with Flash here on CNN or Fox News tests.

But I'm using Linux with Flash 11.2.202.378

Any links to the problem sites might help.


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Re: Fixed -- Adobe Flash Player 11.3 - Bug 3223393: [Platform_Windows]Windows-7: Firefox Window loses focus every time Flash plugin processes are (re-)launched

[Larry]

WaltS48 wrote:

Larry wrote:

Ant wrote:

https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3223393

Hi, this issue is fixed in internal build, you can get next beta build
from http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashruntimes/flashplayer/ to
verify your issue. Thanks! --Jing Yuan on 3:13:50 AM GMT+00:00 Jun 17,
2014

Finally fixed?!


Flash 14.0.0.125 exhibits all the previous problems with SM that have
been discussed in this group.  The message I am getting is:

Warning Unresponsive Plug In
Shockwave Flash may be busy or it may have stopped responding

I am running two machines, one with Win 7 64b, the other vista 32b both
with SM 2.26.1.  Flash still will not run on my Vista machine and focus
is lost.  The problems also occurs on the Win 7 machine. I keep Flash
disabled most of the time.  Recent prior versions of SM did not lose
focus on either machine. Anyone else still having these or similar
problems?

Larry




Not having any problems with Flash here on CNN or Fox News tests.

But I'm using Linux with Flash 11.2.202.378

Any links to the problem sites might help.


Hard to pinpoint a site when I have multiple tabs and windows open.  It 
seems to occur at start up with AOL.com as my home page.

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Fixed -- Adobe Flash Player 11.3 - Bug 3223393: [Platform_Windows]Windows-7: Firefox Window loses focus every time Flash plugin processes are (re-)launched

[Ant]

https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3223393

Hi, this issue is fixed in internal build, you can get next beta build 
from http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashruntimes/flashplayer/ to 
verify your issue. Thanks! --Jing Yuan on 3:13:50 AM GMT+00:00 Jun 17, 2014


Finally fixed?!
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Re: E-mail install failure on Windows 7 - OK on Linux

[Neil]

Bob Henson wrote:


Bob Henson wrote:

As Mozilla are intent on ruining both Firefox and Thunderbird, I 
though I'd give Seamonkey a try. However, I hit a problem almost 
immediately. It installed just fine on my Linux test system, so I 
tried it on my main Windows 7 system. Any attempt to set up e-mail 
accounts failed - the system would not allow me to set the first or 
subsequent e-mail accounts to use a Global Inbox system - the radio 
button to allow it does not function (although the dropdown along 
side it seems to), and it will not allow me to tick include this 
server when getting new e-mail. It makes no difference if the 
account is set up to use SSL or not - neither work.


Is this a known problem with Seamonkey? It seems odd is it is, as I 
would have thought that would have been fixed years ago as a matter 
of urgency. If not, and although it uses a separate profile, might it 
be because I have Thunderbird and Firefox on the same machine? I did 
not use the Thunderbird import facility on setup, should that be a 
factor.


I've replied to myself here so that I can transfer this message plus 
the original to the dev group - follow up is set to 
mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey.


Since writing, I tried several times to remove and completely 
reinstall 2.26 to no avail, the problem persists. I've just 
uninstalled (including profile, of course) it again and installed 
Seamonkey 2.25. There is a minor error in this in that the account 
wizard still fails to make a new account use the Global inbox system 
when ticked, but you can successfully manually change the account 
settings from within in the account manager.


My guess is that in trying to fix the problem in the Wizard in 2.25, a 
new bug or a regression has screwed the system completely in 2.26? 
Either way, it needs fixing sharpish, chaps.


I think I have been able to reproduce the bug whereby the Global Inbox 
tickbox is ignored when setting up the account. However as yet I have 
not been able to reproduce the other regressions that you describe.


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Re: E-mail install failure on Windows 7 - OK on Linux

[Bob Henson]

Bob Henson wrote:

As Mozilla are intent on ruining both Firefox and Thunderbird, I though I'd
give Seamonkey a try. However, I hit a problem almost immediately. It
installed just fine on my Linux test system, so I tried it on my main
Windows 7 system. Any attempt to set up e-mail accounts failed - the system
would not allow me to set the first or subsequent e-mail accounts to use a
Global Inbox system - the radio button to allow it does not function
(although the dropdown along side it seems to), and it will not allow me to
tick include this server when getting new e-mail. It makes no difference
if the account is set up to use SSL or not - neither work.

Is this a known problem with Seamonkey? It seems odd is it is, as I would
have thought that would have been fixed years ago as a matter of urgency.
If not, and although it uses a separate profile, might it be because I have
Thunderbird and Firefox on the same machine? I did not use the Thunderbird
import facility on setup, should that be a factor.



I've replied to myself here so that I can transfer this message plus the 
original to the dev group - follow up is set to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey.


Since writing, I tried several times to remove and completely reinstall 
2.26 to no avail, the problem persists. I've just uninstalled (including 
profile, of course) it again and installed Seamonkey 2.25. There is a 
minor error in this in that the account wizard still fails to make a new 
account use the Global inbox system when ticked, but you can 
successfully manually change the account settings from within in the 
account manager.


My guess is that in trying to fix the problem in the Wizard in 2.25, a 
new bug or a regression has screwed the system completely in 2.26? 
Either way, it needs fixing sharpish, chaps.


Regards,

Bob

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windows 7 seamonkey 3.16 and adding accounts

[Jude DaShiell]

I added more than a single account to my system.  The outgoing line for 
the account was locked to the mail account smtp address.  That wasn't 
especially a problem so long as I was continuing to create mail accounts.  
However when I tried to create a news account that same smtp address was 
saved for the news account too.  When I tried to get into the settings on 
the news account to adjust this problem address, seamonkey crashed and I 
sent a report to mozilla about it earlier today.  I am also using nvda a 
typeof screen reader to have seamonkey read the screens since I can't see 
the screens.  The mail server and news server are both running imap if it 
makes a difference.


jude jdash...@shellworld.net

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Re: windows 7 seamonkey 3.16 and adding accounts

[Ant]

3.16? SM only goes up to v2.23.


On 12/13/2013 2:52 PM PT, Jude DaShiell typed:


I added more than a single account to my system.  The outgoing line for
the account was locked to the mail account smtp address.  That wasn't
especially a problem so long as I was continuing to create mail accounts.
However when I tried to create a news account that same smtp address was
saved for the news account too.  When I tried to get into the settings on
the news account to adjust this problem address, seamonkey crashed and I
sent a report to mozilla about it earlier today.  I am also using nvda a
typeof screen reader to have seamonkey read the screens since I can't see
the screens.  The mail server and news server are both running imap if it
makes a difference.

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spin out the thread that sews the leaves together for their fungus 
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2.21 makes multiple icons on the Windows 7/8 dock

[Mike Doroshenko II]

Just now I noticed that my taskbar shows up like I have two windows open 
like IE and Safari do and I hate it.


How can I get it back the way it was before or do I have to stop using 
SeaMonkey for web browsing :(


Hope FF doesn't do that either.
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Re: Windows 7 -- Windows 8: Cannot use profile

[Daniel]

Mike Doroshenko II wrote:

On 08/08/2013 06:06 AM, Daniel wrote:

mi...@tecknoquest.com wrote:

I just installed Windows 8 on a separate partition on my laptop and
copied
my profile over and get an error.

Do I have to do something else to transfer the profile over?

Once I have it working in Windows 8 and delete the profile from my
Windows 7 partition (need free space) can I have Windows 7 use the

 profile stored in the Windows 8 partition (or could I have it
 stored on my Data/Files partition)?


And the error message is .??

Mike, I'm going to guess that it mentions something about the profile
being Read Only and suggest you have a look at where your profile is
located. Go to Edit-Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings, and select
Sever Settings for your Mail account. At the bottom of that screen,
you should see Local directory.

Part of that should have something like fgnvbfbg.default (random
numbers and letters followed by default). Copy and cut or write on
paper or remember this part of the address. Close SeaMonkey, and in
Windows Explorer, go to this address, right click on the folder,
select Properties, de-select Read Only and then select Apply to
all files and sub-folders or whatever the wording is and click apply.

If your W7 install of SeaMonkey can see the W8 profile, in Windows
Explorer, then, in w7 SM, Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage
Profiles-Create Profile then, on the screen after next, enter a
profile name (Win8 SM, maybe) and on the same screen Choose Folder
and point to the fgnvbfbg.default folder and then o.k. your way out.

Mike, if you have sent or received any e-mails in the original Win8 SM
profile, you will then need to combine that profile with/into the
moved profile, so you don't lose anything. Ask back here when you get
to this stage.

HTH!


 And the error message is .??
 Sorry about that, I sent a screenshot as an attachment but it seems
 it got stripped away. It said Your SeaMonkey profile cannot be
 loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible.

For future reference, Mike, attachments are not accepted on these 
support newsgroups. There used to be one specifically set up for 
images, but I don't think it is still in operation, so people have to do 
what you did and post the image somewhere else and include a link.


 I checked the File System permissions and it still happened. I
 created a new profile and my email probably had to be redownloaded,
 it would be nice if I didn't have to do that...

Sorry, what do you mean by ... and it still happened?

 I had better luck with ThunderBird.

Generally, if you can do something in TB, you can do it in SM.

 When you create a profile, it let's you import an existing one?

Didn't I say, on the screen where you name the new profile, you can 
point it to the location of the old profile??


 Mike, if you have sent or received any e-mails in the original Win8
 SM profile, you will then need to combine that profile with/into the
 moved profile, so you don't lose anything.

 Wouldn't the emails be there since they would be part of the shared
 profile?

 http://tinypic.com/r/szg395/5

Mike, didn't you, at one stage, have a new SM profile in Win8 and the 
old SM profile in your Win7? When you moved/copied your Win7 SM profile 
over to Win8, you should have had two SM profiles on Win8 and, still, 
the Win7 SM profile original.


Or hadn't you actually created a Win8 SM Mail  Newsgroup profile, 
just having made the Win8 SM browser function!!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.20 Build identifier: 20130709211044

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Re: Windows 7 -- Windows 8: Cannot use profile

[Daniel]

mi...@tecknoquest.com wrote:

I just installed Windows 8 on a separate partition on my laptop and copied
my profile over and get an error.

Do I have to do something else to transfer the profile over?

Once I have it working in Windows 8 and delete the profile from my Windows
7 partition (need free space) can I have Windows 7 use the profile stored
in the Windows 8 partition (or could I have it stored on my Data/Files
partition)?


And the error message is .??

Mike, I'm going to guess that it mentions something about the profile 
being Read Only and suggest you have a look at where your profile is 
located. Go to Edit-Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings, and select 
Sever Settings for your Mail account. At the bottom of that screen, 
you should see Local directory.


Part of that should have something like fgnvbfbg.default (random 
numbers and letters followed by default). Copy and cut or write on paper 
or remember this part of the address. Close SeaMonkey, and in Windows 
Explorer, go to this address, right click on the folder, select 
Properties, de-select Read Only and then select Apply to all files 
and sub-folders or whatever the wording is and click apply.


If your W7 install of SeaMonkey can see the W8 profile, in Windows 
Explorer, then, in w7 SM, Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage 
Profiles-Create Profile then, on the screen after next, enter a profile 
name (Win8 SM, maybe) and on the same screen Choose Folder and point 
to the fgnvbfbg.default folder and then o.k. your way out.


Mike, if you have sent or received any e-mails in the original Win8 SM 
profile, you will then need to combine that profile with/into the moved 
profile, so you don't lose anything. Ask back here when you get to this 
stage.


HTH!

--
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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: Windows 7 -- Windows 8: Cannot use profile

[Mike Doroshenko II]

And the error message is .?? 
Sorry about that, I sent a screenshot as an attachment but it seems it 
got stripped away. It said Your SeaMonkey profile cannot be loaded. It 
may be missing or inaccessible.


I checked the File System permissions and it still happened. I created a 
new profile and my email probably had to be redownloaded, it would be 
nice if I didn't have to do that...


I had better luck with ThunderBird.

When you create a profile, it let's you import an existing one?

Mike, if you have sent or received any e-mails in the original Win8 SM 
profile, you will then need to combine that profile with/into the 
moved profile, so you don't lose anything.


Wouldn't the emails be there since they would be part of the shared profile?

http://tinypic.com/r/szg395/5



On 08/08/2013 06:06 AM, Daniel wrote:

mi...@tecknoquest.com wrote:
I just installed Windows 8 on a separate partition on my laptop and 
copied

my profile over and get an error.

Do I have to do something else to transfer the profile over?

Once I have it working in Windows 8 and delete the profile from my 
Windows
7 partition (need free space) can I have Windows 7 use the profile 
stored

in the Windows 8 partition (or could I have it stored on my Data/Files
partition)?


And the error message is .??

Mike, I'm going to guess that it mentions something about the profile 
being Read Only and suggest you have a look at where your profile is 
located. Go to Edit-Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings, and select 
Sever Settings for your Mail account. At the bottom of that screen, 
you should see Local directory.


Part of that should have something like fgnvbfbg.default (random 
numbers and letters followed by default). Copy and cut or write on 
paper or remember this part of the address. Close SeaMonkey, and in 
Windows Explorer, go to this address, right click on the folder, 
select Properties, de-select Read Only and then select Apply to 
all files and sub-folders or whatever the wording is and click apply.


If your W7 install of SeaMonkey can see the W8 profile, in Windows 
Explorer, then, in w7 SM, Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage 
Profiles-Create Profile then, on the screen after next, enter a 
profile name (Win8 SM, maybe) and on the same screen Choose Folder 
and point to the fgnvbfbg.default folder and then o.k. your way out.


Mike, if you have sent or received any e-mails in the original Win8 SM 
profile, you will then need to combine that profile with/into the 
moved profile, so you don't lose anything. Ask back here when you get 
to this stage.


HTH!




--
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TecKnoQuest Inc.
mi...@tecknoquest.com
www.tecknoquest.com

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Windows 7 -- Windows 8: Cannot use profile

[miked]

I just installed Windows 8 on a separate partition on my laptop and copied
my profile over and get an error.

Do I have to do something else to transfer the profile over?

Once I have it working in Windows 8 and delete the profile from my Windows
7 partition (need free space) can I have Windows 7 use the profile stored
in the Windows 8 partition (or could I have it stored on my Data/Files
partition)?
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Re: Windows 7, Fonti-size : medium, Seamonkey e-mail UI

[Oliver Schoett]

sean nathan wrote:
Font preferences stick for the initial display, but once one hits 
reply and starts typing a response to any message, the teensie weensie 
tiny fonts reappear in the compose box... i don't recollect this being 
an issue in 1.xx.xx versions... 


I think this is due to mail programs like Outlook sending you HTML mail 
containing CSS style settings that define font, font-size (in px!) 
and/or color for the BODY and/or P HTML elements.  When you write a 
reply in SeaMonkey, Semonkey uses these same HTML elements and continues 
to apply the style settings contined in the quoted mail text.


Being forced to write in the sender's wackyfont/crazysize/garishcolor is 
a nuisance, to say the least, and I have had some success workíng around 
it by deleting the beginning of the included quoted mail text (which 
presumably contains these style settings).


Regards,

Oliver Schoett

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Re: Need help to transfer all SM 2.16.2 emails, address books to a new Windows 7 O/S PC

[Daniel]

Ray Davison wrote:

Daniel wrote:

cqbrodie wrote:

Then, make use of MozBackup, downloadable from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mozbackup/, install it on both systems,
use it to archive your current profiles, copy them to your new system
and use MozBackup to extract the profiles to the locations you selected
when installing SM on the new system.


You are working too hard.  A profile is just a sub-directory.  Copy it
to wherever you want, and name it whatever you want.  Then in Create
Profile  Chose Folder, select that sub-directory.

Ray


Yeap, Ray, in normal situations that's all you need to do, butin 
this case, OP wants to move everything to a new computer, and having a 
back-up is not a bad idea in any case.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.17 Build identifier: 20130224181913


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:20.0) 
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Re: Need help to transfer all SM 2.16.2 emails, address books to a new Windows 7 O/S PC

[Daniel]

cqbrodie wrote:

Hi!
I have an old windows XP with svc pk3 PC (32 bit) and a new PC with
windows 7 (64bit).
How can I transfer all 4 separate email accounts  address books from
one PC to another.
thanks for any help
Cliff


Cliff, one way of doing it would be to set up SM on your new computer 
and give it the four profiles, if you still need them (Tools-Switch 
Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profiles) and, on the second screen, 
where you give a name to each profile, put the profile wherever you want.


Then, make use of MozBackup, downloadable from 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mozbackup/, install it on both systems, 
use it to archive your current profiles, copy them to your new system 
and use MozBackup to extract the profiles to the locations you selected 
when installing SM on the new system.


HTH!

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Re: Need help to transfer all SM 2.16.2 emails, address books to a new Windows 7 O/S PC

[Ray Davison]

Daniel wrote:

cqbrodie wrote:

Then, make use of MozBackup, downloadable from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mozbackup/, install it on both systems,
use it to archive your current profiles, copy them to your new system
and use MozBackup to extract the profiles to the locations you selected
when installing SM on the new system.


You are working too hard.  A profile is just a sub-directory.  Copy it 
to wherever you want, and name it whatever you want.  Then in Create 
Profile  Chose Folder, select that sub-directory.


Ray


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Need help to transfer all SM 2.16.2 emails, address books to a new Windows 7 O/S PC

[cqbrodie]

Hi!
I have an old windows XP with svc pk3 PC (32 bit) and a new PC with 
windows 7 (64bit).
How can I transfer all 4 separate email accounts  address books from 
one PC to another.

thanks for any help
Cliff
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Re: adding profile manager to windows 7 desktop.

[Daniel]

cqbrodie wrote:

Thank you very much to Messrs Gallagher and Taylor for your solution. It
was easy to do.
  However, in having the profile manager now on the desktop, when I
click on any of the 3 additional users, it revert to the primary one
only, and before on the XP version, each
of the additional ones were separate and had their own default webpages.
When I tried to add their respective email accounts using the first
additional one,
it became a sub-folder of the main account that's not what I would like
to do.

So again I would appreciate any guidance in how to solve this.
regards
Cliff


Cliff, when you set up the three accounts, (Tools-Switch 
Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profile), on the second screen, where 
you gave the new profile a distinctive name, (on the same screen) did 
you also choose a different location (i.e. Choose Folder) for the new 
profile??


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Re: adding profile manager to windows 7 desktop.

[Daniel]

Daniel wrote:

cqbrodie wrote:

Thank you very much to Messrs Gallagher and Taylor for your solution. It
was easy to do.
  However, in having the profile manager now on the desktop, when I
click on any of the 3 additional users, it revert to the primary one
only, and before on the XP version, each
of the additional ones were separate and had their own default webpages.
When I tried to add their respective email accounts using the first
additional one,
it became a sub-folder of the main account that's not what I would like
to do.

So again I would appreciate any guidance in how to solve this.
regards
Cliff


Cliff, when you set up the three accounts, (Tools-Switch
Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profile), on the second screen, where
you gave the new profile a distinctive name, (on the same screen) did
you also choose a different location (i.e. Choose Folder) for the new
profile??


Cliff responded to me via e-mail:-

Quote
Thanks very much for your reply to my question about setting up profile 
manager on my new PC.


What I did do, was to delete the least important user name in the group 
of 3 and then used profile manager to open a new user and I did not 
change the profile location and went thru the new setup and it worked.


I suppose that did create a new folder.  Then I did the same for the 2 
remaining users.


I presume you are in Australia.  I'm in sunny northern California ( but 
somewhat cool to cold at night!)

regards

Cliff Brodie
End Quote

Yes, I'm in Australia, and it's been *very* sunny here for the past few 
months!! and bloody hot, too!! (apparently, we've just set a new record 
for days in a row with a top temp of over 35 degrees Celsius (97 degrees F)


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Re: adding profile manager to windows 7 desktop.

[cqbrodie]

Thank you very much to Messrs Gallagher and Taylor for your solution. It 
was easy to do.
 However, in having the profile manager now on the desktop, when I 
click on any of the 3 additional users, it revert to the primary one 
only, and before on the XP version, each
of the additional ones were separate and had their own default webpages. 
When I tried to add their respective email accounts using the first 
additional one,
it became a sub-folder of the main account that's not what I would like 
to do.


So again I would appreciate any guidance in how to solve this.
regards
Cliff
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Re: new to windows 7 and can't get profile manager set up

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


1) Click the Windows Start button and navigate to the SeaMonkey
folder. Click that once to expand it. You'll see four entries, one
of them being the Profile Manager. Right-click that and choose
copy, then escape out of the Start menu.

2) At the far right end of the Windows taskbar, to the right of the
clock, there's a little vertical strip. If you mouse over it, you get
a tooltip, Show desktop. Click it.


On my Windows 7 (Enterprise), your little vertical strip
is a large blue rectangle


Fair enough. On my machine, it's a little narrower than a scroll bar and 
extends the full height of the task bar. Mind you, I've doubled the 
height of the taskbar to accommodate two rows of tasks, so that could 
change the proportions.



3) Do CTRL-V to paste the shortcut you copied onto the desktop.


Won't work until you have clicked on the desktop : Show desktop
does not re-assign focus.


Inchsting. On my machine, it works fine with no extra click. Win7 Pro SP1.

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Re: Text Rendering Issues due to Windows 7 Platform Update KB2670838

[Jim Taylor]

Ray_Net wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote, On 28/02/2013 22:12:

chicagofan wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

I have added a comment to bug 812695
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812695  that I am
seeing this problem on SeaMonkey 2.16 also after Microsoft Update
pushed KB2670838 to my laptop yesterday.  I have changed
gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false as a workaround to
correct the problem until it is corrected.



Can you explain what is happening, so I can decide if I want to
install that update?

It seems it's a 50/50 chance now that MS updates will break something
on my system.   Thanks...
bj



Some of the text characters have dots missing and are malformed,
also some reports of images having problems too, but I didn't see
that problem.  It seems to be only certain sized text, for me it was
mostly the text in the tab titles and the menus.  I could still read
them, but it was hard enough on the eyes I didn't want to keep using
it.  If you follow the link to the bug I posted, right under the bug
description are some attachments with screen shots of the problem
(they are from Foxfire, but the problem is the same on SeaMonkey).
Also it looks like most of the people having the problem (including
me) have ATI video cards or chipsets so you may not see the problem.

Also changing gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false in
about:config corrected the problem for me and I haven't seen any ill
effects from that setting so I am going to leave the Microsoft
KB2670838 patch on and run with gfx.content.azure.enabled false
until they get the problem fixed.


my gfx.content.azure.enabled is false (and this is the default) so what ?


I'm not sure what you are asking with the so what?, or why you even 
commented if you are not having the problem and your 
gfx.content.azure.enabled default is false.


If you are asking why your gfx.content.azure.enabled is default false 
and mine and others is default true I don't know the answer.  Perhaps 
it's because your OS is 32 bit or you have hardware acceleration 
turned off or your video card is blacklisted, I don't know how the 
default is determined and I don't care enough to go to the source and 
find out.


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Re: Text Rendering Issues due to Windows 7 Platform Update KB2670838

[Ray_Net]

Jim Taylor wrote, On 01/03/2013 13:36:

Ray_Net wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote, On 28/02/2013 22:12:

chicagofan wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

I have added a comment to bug 812695
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812695 that I am
seeing this problem on SeaMonkey 2.16 also after Microsoft Update
pushed KB2670838 to my laptop yesterday. I have changed
gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false as a workaround to
correct the problem until it is corrected.



Can you explain what is happening, so I can decide if I want to
install that update?

It seems it's a 50/50 chance now that MS updates will break something
on my system. Thanks...
bj



Some of the text characters have dots missing and are malformed,
also some reports of images having problems too, but I didn't see
that problem. It seems to be only certain sized text, for me it was
mostly the text in the tab titles and the menus. I could still read
them, but it was hard enough on the eyes I didn't want to keep using
it. If you follow the link to the bug I posted, right under the bug
description are some attachments with screen shots of the problem
(they are from Foxfire, but the problem is the same on SeaMonkey).
Also it looks like most of the people having the problem (including
me) have ATI video cards or chipsets so you may not see the problem.

Also changing gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false in
about:config corrected the problem for me and I haven't seen any ill
effects from that setting so I am going to leave the Microsoft
KB2670838 patch on and run with gfx.content.azure.enabled false
until they get the problem fixed.

my gfx.content.azure.enabled is false (and this is the default) so 
what ?


I'm not sure what you are asking with the so what?, or why you even 
commented if you are not having the problem and your 
gfx.content.azure.enabled default is false.


If you are asking why your gfx.content.azure.enabled is default false 
and mine and others is default true I don't know the answer. Perhaps 
it's because your OS is 32 bit or you have hardware acceleration 
turned off or your video card is blacklisted, I don't know how the 
default is determined and I don't care enough to go to the source and 
find out.


I think that the default is SM who set this. You said that you put this 
variable to false ... perhaps now you set it as the default value.


So what .. because with my gfx.content.azure.enabled is false and with 
that value i have the same problem as explained here: (the false value 
did not correct the problem)


 Original Message 
Subject:Flight Tracking Site Problem
Date:   Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:39:17 -0500
From:   Tom Pamin scnrf...@roadrunner.com
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey



Can someone go to this flight tracking site
(http://www.flightradar24.com) and see if you have same problem I do?
Click on any plane and then click on Cockpit View in the box on the left
hand side.  I’m getting lots of shimmering and breakup of the moving
picture. This happens on both my PC’s. The site owner says no one else
has complained.

However, if I click the switch under the picture and change to Aircraft
View, the picture is stable with no problems.

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Text Rendering Issues due to Windows 7 Platform Update KB2670838

[Jim Taylor]

I have added a comment to bug 812695 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812695  that I am seeing 
this problem on SeaMonkey 2.16 also after Microsoft Update pushed 
KB2670838 to my laptop yesterday.  I have changed 
gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false as a workaround to 
correct the problem until it is corrected.


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Re: Text Rendering Issues due to Windows 7 Platform Update KB2670838

[chicagofan]

Jim Taylor wrote:
I have added a comment to bug 812695 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812695  that I am seeing 
this problem on SeaMonkey 2.16 also after Microsoft Update pushed 
KB2670838 to my laptop yesterday.  I have changed 
gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false as a workaround to 
correct the problem until it is corrected.




Can you explain what is happening, so I can decide if I want to install 
that update?


It seems it's a 50/50 chance now that MS updates will break something on 
my system.   Thanks...

bj


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Re: Text Rendering Issues due to Windows 7 Platform Update KB2670838

[Jim Taylor]

chicagofan wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

I have added a comment to bug 812695
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812695  that I am
seeing this problem on SeaMonkey 2.16 also after Microsoft Update
pushed KB2670838 to my laptop yesterday.  I have changed
gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false as a workaround to
correct the problem until it is corrected.



Can you explain what is happening, so I can decide if I want to
install that update?

It seems it's a 50/50 chance now that MS updates will break something
on my system.   Thanks...
bj


Some of the text characters have dots missing and are malformed, also 
some reports of images having problems too, but I didn't see that 
problem.  It seems to be only certain sized text, for me it was mostly 
the text in the tab titles and the menus.  I could still read them, 
but it was hard enough on the eyes I didn't want to keep using it.  If 
you follow the link to the bug I posted, right under the bug 
description are some attachments with screen shots of the problem 
(they are from Foxfire, but the problem is the same on SeaMonkey). 
Also it looks like most of the people having the problem (including 
me) have ATI video cards or chipsets so you may not see the problem.


Also changing gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false in 
about:config corrected the problem for me and I haven't seen any ill 
effects from that setting so I am going to leave the Microsoft 
KB2670838 patch on and run with gfx.content.azure.enabled false until 
they get the problem fixed.


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Re: Text Rendering Issues due to Windows 7 Platform Update KB2670838

[chicagofan]

Jim Taylor wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

I have added a comment to bug 812695
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812695  that I am
seeing this problem on SeaMonkey 2.16 also after Microsoft Update
pushed KB2670838 to my laptop yesterday.  I have changed
gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false as a workaround to
correct the problem until it is corrected.



Can you explain what is happening, so I can decide if I want to
install that update?

It seems it's a 50/50 chance now that MS updates will break something
on my system.   Thanks...
bj


Some of the text characters have dots missing and are malformed, also 
some reports of images having problems too, but I didn't see that 
problem.  It seems to be only certain sized text, for me it was mostly 
the text in the tab titles and the menus.  I could still read them, 
but it was hard enough on the eyes I didn't want to keep using it.  If 
you follow the link to the bug I posted, right under the bug 
description are some attachments with screen shots of the problem 
(they are from Foxfire, but the problem is the same on SeaMonkey). 
Also it looks like most of the people having the problem (including 
me) have ATI video cards or chipsets so you may not see the problem.


Also changing gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false in 
about:config corrected the problem for me and I haven't seen any ill 
effects from that setting so I am going to leave the Microsoft 
KB2670838 patch on and run with gfx.content.azure.enabled false until 
they get the problem fixed.




Thanks so much, Jim!  My graphics card is not ATI, but I will check out 
that bug for the other comments/displays to decide about the update 
though.   :)

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Re: Text Rendering Issues due to Windows 7 Platform Update KB2670838

[Ray_Net]

Jim Taylor wrote, On 28/02/2013 22:12:

chicagofan wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

I have added a comment to bug 812695
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812695  that I am
seeing this problem on SeaMonkey 2.16 also after Microsoft Update
pushed KB2670838 to my laptop yesterday.  I have changed
gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false as a workaround to
correct the problem until it is corrected.



Can you explain what is happening, so I can decide if I want to
install that update?

It seems it's a 50/50 chance now that MS updates will break something
on my system.   Thanks...
bj


Some of the text characters have dots missing and are malformed, also 
some reports of images having problems too, but I didn't see that 
problem.  It seems to be only certain sized text, for me it was mostly 
the text in the tab titles and the menus.  I could still read them, 
but it was hard enough on the eyes I didn't want to keep using it.  If 
you follow the link to the bug I posted, right under the bug 
description are some attachments with screen shots of the problem 
(they are from Foxfire, but the problem is the same on SeaMonkey). 
Also it looks like most of the people having the problem (including 
me) have ATI video cards or chipsets so you may not see the problem.


Also changing gfx.content.azure.enabled from true to false in 
about:config corrected the problem for me and I haven't seen any ill 
effects from that setting so I am going to leave the Microsoft 
KB2670838 patch on and run with gfx.content.azure.enabled false until 
they get the problem fixed.



my gfx.content.azure.enabled is false (and this is the default) so what ?
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Re: Windows 7, Fonti-size : medium, Seamonkey e-mail UI

[sean nathan]

WaltS wrote, On 02/17/2013 07:37 AM:

sean nathan wrote:

WaltS wrote, On 02/15/2013 08:20 AM:

sean nathan wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 02/09/2013 03:44 AM:

Trying to come to terms with the fact that I may one day
have to replace my beloved twin 19 CRT monitors with
2 x flat-screen (LCD/LED/whatever) versions of the same,
and knowing that few if any make the latter with a native
resolution of 1152 x 864 (my preferred resolution when
using Windows 7 Normal (=Small) fonts, I have just
reset my screen resolution to 1280 x 1024 and increased
the font size to medium.

BUT.

(1) The font size in the Compose window is tiny
(I can barely see to type this), and Ctrl + does not
increase it.

(2) In the e-mail 3-window view, all of the items, whilst
in a legibly large font, are vertically cramped.

How may I rectify these issues, please ?

Philip Taylor


ctrl + works for me in my linux version of seamonkey 64 bit
using the
modern theme but i'd sure appreciate knowing where to make a larger
size font permanent in 2.15.2

sean



Well, selecting Help from the menu bar or pressing F1, navigating to the
Customizing SeaMonkey heading, then selecting Appearance Preferences -
Fonts is a place to start.


yes... i've always known about edit preferences  appearance  font...

the problem is it no longer works, and hasn't been a universal fix for
quite some time... Font preferences stick for the initial display, but
once one hits reply and starts typing a response to any message, the
teensie weensie tiny fonts reappear in the compose box... i don't
recollect this being an issue in 1.xx.xx versions...




I don't recollect 1.xx.xx versions, or the last version I actually used.

However, setting the Monospace Font Size larger made the fonts larger in
the compose window for this reply. The setting stayed when I Quit
SeaMonkey, and opened it again.

Disclaimer: I'm not using Windows 7, so your results may be different.


I'm using the latest Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:19.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16


which is a 64 bit version of Seamonkey in peppermintOS linux... via 
tonight's ppa update ... the default font size seems to have migrated up 
to 10 from an 8... but i tend to need to bump it on up to 12 or 14 to be 
able to read it...


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Re: Windows 7, Fonti-size : medium, Seamonkey e-mail UI

[sean nathan]

WaltS wrote, On 02/15/2013 08:20 AM:

sean nathan wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 02/09/2013 03:44 AM:

Trying to come to terms with the fact that I may one day
have to replace my beloved twin 19 CRT monitors with
2 x flat-screen (LCD/LED/whatever) versions of the same,
and knowing that few if any make the latter with a native
resolution of 1152 x 864 (my preferred resolution when
using Windows 7 Normal (=Small) fonts, I have just
reset my screen resolution to 1280 x 1024 and increased
the font size to medium.

BUT.

(1) The font size in the Compose window is tiny
(I can barely see to type this), and Ctrl + does not
increase it.

(2) In the e-mail 3-window view, all of the items, whilst
in a legibly large font, are vertically cramped.

How may I rectify these issues, please ?

Philip Taylor


   ctrl + works for me in my linux version of seamonkey 64 bit using the
modern theme but i'd sure appreciate knowing where to make a larger
size font permanent in 2.15.2

sean



Well, selecting Help from the menu bar or pressing F1, navigating to the
Customizing SeaMonkey heading, then selecting Appearance Preferences -
Fonts is a place to start.


yes... i've always known about edit preferences  appearance  font...

the problem is it no longer works, and hasn't been a universal fix for 
quite some time... Font preferences stick for the initial display, but 
once one hits reply and starts typing a response to any message, the 
teensie weensie tiny fonts reappear in the compose box... i don't 
recollect this being an issue in 1.xx.xx versions...



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  It might be very useful.
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Re: Windows 7, Fonti-size : medium, Seamonkey e-mail UI

[WaltS]

sean nathan wrote:

WaltS wrote, On 02/15/2013 08:20 AM:

sean nathan wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 02/09/2013 03:44 AM:

Trying to come to terms with the fact that I may one day
have to replace my beloved twin 19 CRT monitors with
2 x flat-screen (LCD/LED/whatever) versions of the same,
and knowing that few if any make the latter with a native
resolution of 1152 x 864 (my preferred resolution when
using Windows 7 Normal (=Small) fonts, I have just
reset my screen resolution to 1280 x 1024 and increased
the font size to medium.

BUT.

(1) The font size in the Compose window is tiny
(I can barely see to type this), and Ctrl + does not
increase it.

(2) In the e-mail 3-window view, all of the items, whilst
in a legibly large font, are vertically cramped.

How may I rectify these issues, please ?

Philip Taylor


ctrl + works for me in my linux version of seamonkey 64 bit using the
modern theme but i'd sure appreciate knowing where to make a larger
size font permanent in 2.15.2

sean



Well, selecting Help from the menu bar or pressing F1, navigating to the
Customizing SeaMonkey heading, then selecting Appearance Preferences -
Fonts is a place to start.


yes... i've always known about edit preferences  appearance  font...

the problem is it no longer works, and hasn't been a universal fix for
quite some time... Font preferences stick for the initial display, but
once one hits reply and starts typing a response to any message, the
teensie weensie tiny fonts reappear in the compose box... i don't
recollect this being an issue in 1.xx.xx versions...




I don't recollect 1.xx.xx versions, or the last version I actually used.

However, setting the Monospace Font Size larger made the fonts larger in 
the compose window for this reply. The setting stayed when I Quit 
SeaMonkey, and opened it again.


Disclaimer: I'm not using Windows 7, so your results may be different.

HTH

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Re: Windows 7, Fonti-size : medium, Seamonkey e-mail UI

[sean nathan]

Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 02/09/2013 03:44 AM:

Trying to come to terms with the fact that I may one day
have to replace my beloved twin 19 CRT monitors with
2 x flat-screen (LCD/LED/whatever) versions of the same,
and knowing that few if any make the latter with a native
resolution of 1152 x 864 (my preferred resolution when
using Windows 7 Normal (=Small) fonts, I have just
reset my screen resolution to 1280 x 1024 and increased
the font size to medium.

BUT.

(1) The font size in the Compose window is tiny
(I can barely see to type this), and Ctrl + does not
increase it.

(2) In the e-mail 3-window view, all of the items, whilst
in a legibly large font, are vertically cramped.

How may I rectify these issues, please ?

Philip Taylor

 ctrl + works for me in my linux version of seamonkey 64 bit using the 
modern theme but i'd sure appreciate knowing where to make a larger 
size font permanent in 2.15.2


sean

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Re: Windows 7, Fonti-size : medium, Seamonkey e-mail UI

[WaltS]

sean nathan wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 02/09/2013 03:44 AM:

Trying to come to terms with the fact that I may one day
have to replace my beloved twin 19 CRT monitors with
2 x flat-screen (LCD/LED/whatever) versions of the same,
and knowing that few if any make the latter with a native
resolution of 1152 x 864 (my preferred resolution when
using Windows 7 Normal (=Small) fonts, I have just
reset my screen resolution to 1280 x 1024 and increased
the font size to medium.

BUT.

(1) The font size in the Compose window is tiny
(I can barely see to type this), and Ctrl + does not
increase it.

(2) In the e-mail 3-window view, all of the items, whilst
in a legibly large font, are vertically cramped.

How may I rectify these issues, please ?

Philip Taylor


   ctrl + works for me in my linux version of seamonkey 64 bit using the
modern theme but i'd sure appreciate knowing where to make a larger
size font permanent in 2.15.2

sean



Well, selecting Help from the menu bar or pressing F1, navigating to the 
Customizing SeaMonkey heading, then selecting Appearance Preferences - 
Fonts is a place to start.


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Re: Windows 7, Fonti-size : medium, Seamonkey e-mail UI

[Philip TAYLOR]

WaltS wrote:

 sean nathan wrote:

ctrl + works for me in my linux version of seamonkey 64 bit using the
 modern theme but i'd sure appreciate knowing where to make a larger
 size font permanent in 2.15.2


 sean


Ctrl + makes no difference in the compose window (I do not use themes :
I use Seamonkey as it comes out of the box).

 
 Well, selecting Help from the menu bar or pressing F1, navigating to the
 Customizing SeaMonkey heading, then selecting Appearance Preferences -
 Fonts is a place to start.

Thank you : after some experimentation I can now confirm
that adjust the size of the monospace font does indeed
affect the size of the font used in the Compose window.

But nowhere, so far as I can tell, is the leading for fonts specifiable,
so how to address vertically cramped display is also unresolved.
It would seem that Seamonkey honours half of the Windows preferred
font size setting : that is, it honours the larger font, but the
the concomitant increase in leading needed to accommodate a larger
font.

Philip Taylor
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Re: Windows 7, Fonti-size : medium, Seamonkey e-mail UI

[Roger Fink]

 Original Message 

Trying to come to terms with the fact that I may one day
have to replace my beloved twin 19 CRT monitors with
2 x flat-screen (LCD/LED/whatever) versions of the same,
and knowing that few if any make the latter with a native
resolution of 1152 x 864 (my preferred resolution when
using Windows 7 Normal (=Small) fonts, I have just
reset my screen resolution to 1280 x 1024 and increased
the font size to medium.

BUT.

(1) The font size in the Compose window is tiny
(I can barely see to type this), and Ctrl + does not
increase it.

(2) In the e-mail 3-window view, all of the items, whilst
in a legibly large font, are vertically cramped.

How may I rectify these issues, please ?

Philip Taylor
I believe one of the font settings, either compose or display, is 
governed by the font selection for the browser listed under 
Preferences/Appearance/Fonts, so that should solve one of the two 
issues. Hopefully someone will correct/add to this post to make it more 
definitive.


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Windows 7, Fonti-size : medium, Seamonkey e-mail UI

[Philip TAYLOR]

Trying to come to terms with the fact that I may one day
have to replace my beloved twin 19 CRT monitors with
2 x flat-screen (LCD/LED/whatever) versions of the same,
and knowing that few if any make the latter with a native
resolution of 1152 x 864 (my preferred resolution when
using Windows 7 Normal (=Small) fonts, I have just
reset my screen resolution to 1280 x 1024 and increased
the font size to medium.

BUT.

(1) The font size in the Compose window is tiny
(I can barely see to type this), and Ctrl + does not
increase it.

(2) In the e-mail 3-window view, all of the items, whilst
in a legibly large font, are vertically cramped.

How may I rectify these issues, please ?

Philip Taylor
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Re: Problem Solved--Profile Problems--New Windows 7

[Daniel]

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife received her new computer (Windows 7). She d/l SM 2.14
then, to
recover her profile from her older computer, we copied the saved copy
from her thumb drive and pasted it into a new profile which we had
emptied out.

SM fails when she tries to start using the new profile, saying it
can't
find the bookmarks.html file from her *default* profile (the one we
supposedly aren't using). Note: On her old computer her SM home page
was
Bookmarks.html, which somehow doesn't show up in the copied profile.

Questions: What did we do wrong? Why can't she use the saved/copied
profile?

Larry



Larry, what version of SeaMonkey was your wife using?? Since Ver 2.1 or
so, bookmarks (and History and some other stuff) have been stored in a
file called places.sqlite


Good question, Daniel, but probably not the issue. She's using 2.14,


Yes, you typed that, Larry. I asked what version of SeaMonkey was your
wife using?? meaning on her old computer??



but
here's the problem. While the notice is that the file can't be found, it
says that it can't be found in the *default* profile. The problem is
that at the time she's using the *new* profile, so there shouldn't be a
search for the file in the other one. Seems to be the wrong message, but
we can't make it go away.


Have a look at Tools-Switch Profiles.  How many profiles are listed??
Could it be that her new profile *is* the default profile??


Note: Of course there's no bookmarks.html in the default profile since
that was part of the brand new d/l of 2.14 into the brand new computer.
The file has not been created yet. But that's the wrong place to look!

Questions: (1) Was copying the profile contents from the saved copy into
a newly-created profile the right way to do it?,


Yes, that would do, as long as some of the files have undergone the
conversion process back in Ver 2.1 approx


  and (2) Was there
something else to do to use the new profile, other than ToolsSwitch
Profiles?

Thanks for your help over the years!

Larry


No, if it has been converted and located.


Problem solved! See my reply to Ed Mullen. However, to answer your
questions:
--  She was previously using 2.13.2.
--  Both profiles are listed in Switch Profiles, and the new one was
selected.
So, it wasn't a file conversion problem, but inattention on my part.
Nevertheless, your questions were good ones, as the conversion process
has often been a source of problems.

Thank you for your help, even though the answer went another direction.
You've save my life (well, my SM anyhow) on several other occasions, and
are a greatly appreciated resource here.

Larry


Yes, Larry, I had read your response to Ed with the good news! Don't you 
wish, sometimes, that some (loved ones and others) would fix their own 
problems??


And there are a lot of people, here-abouts, doing what they can for the 
benefits of others!!


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Re: Profile Problems--New Windows 7

[Daniel]

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife received her new computer (Windows 7). She d/l SM 2.14 then, to
recover her profile from her older computer, we copied the saved copy
from her thumb drive and pasted it into a new profile which we had
emptied out.

SM fails when she tries to start using the new profile, saying it can't
find the bookmarks.html file from her *default* profile (the one we
supposedly aren't using). Note: On her old computer her SM home page was
Bookmarks.html, which somehow doesn't show up in the copied profile.

Questions: What did we do wrong? Why can't she use the saved/copied
profile?

Larry



Larry, what version of SeaMonkey was your wife using?? Since Ver 2.1 or
so, bookmarks (and History and some other stuff) have been stored in a
file called places.sqlite


Good question, Daniel, but probably not the issue. She's using 2.14,


Yes, you typed that, Larry. I asked what version of SeaMonkey was your 
wife using?? meaning on her old computer??



  but
here's the problem. While the notice is that the file can't be found, it
says that it can't be found in the *default* profile. The problem is
that at the time she's using the *new* profile, so there shouldn't be a
search for the file in the other one. Seems to be the wrong message, but
we can't make it go away.


Have a look at Tools-Switch Profiles.  How many profiles are listed?? 
Could it be that her new profile *is* the default profile??



Note: Of course there's no bookmarks.html in the default profile since
that was part of the brand new d/l of 2.14 into the brand new computer.
The file has not been created yet. But that's the wrong place to look!

Questions: (1) Was copying the profile contents from the saved copy into
a newly-created profile the right way to do it?,


Yes, that would do, as long as some of the files have undergone the 
conversion process back in Ver 2.1 approx



  and (2) Was there
something else to do to use the new profile, other than ToolsSwitch
Profiles?

Thanks for your help over the years!

Larry


No, if it has been converted and located.

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Re: Profile Problems--New Windows 7

[Larry S.]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife received her new computer (Windows 7). She d/l SM 2.14 then, to
recover her profile from her older computer, we copied the saved copy
from her thumb drive and pasted it into a new profile which we had
emptied out.

SM fails when she tries to start using the new profile, saying it can't
find the bookmarks.html file from her *default* profile (the one we
supposedly aren't using). Note: On her old computer her SM home page
was
Bookmarks.html, which somehow doesn't show up in the copied profile.

Questions: What did we do wrong? Why can't she use the saved/copied
profile?

Larry



Larry, what version of SeaMonkey was your wife using?? Since Ver 2.1 or
so, bookmarks (and History and some other stuff) have been stored in a
file called places.sqlite


Good question, Daniel, but probably not the issue. She's using 2.14, but
here's the problem. While the notice is that the file can't be found, it
says that it can't be found in the *default* profile. The problem is
that at the time she's using the *new* profile, so there shouldn't be a
search for the file in the other one. Seems to be the wrong message, but
we can't make it go away.


Are you /sure/ she's using the new profile?  Did you create a new
shortcut pointing to the new profile?  If not, SM will use the default
it created.




Note: Of course there's no bookmarks.html in the default profile since
that was part of the brand new d/l of 2.14 into the brand new computer.
The file has not been created yet. But that's the wrong place to look!

Questions: (1) Was copying the profile contents from the saved copy into
a newly-created profile the right way to do it?, and


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_SeaMonkey


(2) Was there
something else to do to use the new profile, other than ToolsSwitch
Profiles?


Hmm.  I've never used that method so I can't be sure.  I use customized
shortcuts specifying the profile.

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_commands.php

I suggest you create a new shortcut (or modify the existing one) to
point to the new profile and use that to start SM.


Thank you for a good hint. We double checked that she was, in fact, 
using the new profile. We verified that both profiles existed, and 
checked that both appeared in the profiles.ini file (which your 
pointing to the Mozillazine article made me  aware of). Further the 
ini file pointed to the new profile.


So, what was the problem? It was simple, and stupid, operator error, as 
so many are. I hadn't noticed that the home page pointer in Preferences 
was still pointing the Default profile. Fixed that, and voila!, problem 
solved. Wouldn't have checked that for a long time if you hadn't started 
me along the right path. So, thank you again!


Larry
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Re: Problem Solved--Profile Problems--New Windows 7

[Larry S.]

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife received her new computer (Windows 7). She d/l SM 2.14 then, to
recover her profile from her older computer, we copied the saved copy
from her thumb drive and pasted it into a new profile which we had
emptied out.

SM fails when she tries to start using the new profile, saying it can't
find the bookmarks.html file from her *default* profile (the one we
supposedly aren't using). Note: On her old computer her SM home page
was
Bookmarks.html, which somehow doesn't show up in the copied profile.

Questions: What did we do wrong? Why can't she use the saved/copied
profile?

Larry



Larry, what version of SeaMonkey was your wife using?? Since Ver 2.1 or
so, bookmarks (and History and some other stuff) have been stored in a
file called places.sqlite


Good question, Daniel, but probably not the issue. She's using 2.14,


Yes, you typed that, Larry. I asked what version of SeaMonkey was your
wife using?? meaning on her old computer??


  but
here's the problem. While the notice is that the file can't be found, it
says that it can't be found in the *default* profile. The problem is
that at the time she's using the *new* profile, so there shouldn't be a
search for the file in the other one. Seems to be the wrong message, but
we can't make it go away.


Have a look at Tools-Switch Profiles.  How many profiles are listed??
Could it be that her new profile *is* the default profile??


Note: Of course there's no bookmarks.html in the default profile since
that was part of the brand new d/l of 2.14 into the brand new computer.
The file has not been created yet. But that's the wrong place to look!

Questions: (1) Was copying the profile contents from the saved copy into
a newly-created profile the right way to do it?,


Yes, that would do, as long as some of the files have undergone the
conversion process back in Ver 2.1 approx


  and (2) Was there
something else to do to use the new profile, other than ToolsSwitch
Profiles?

Thanks for your help over the years!

Larry


No, if it has been converted and located.

Problem solved! See my reply to Ed Mullen. However, to answer your 
questions:

--  She was previously using 2.13.2.
--  Both profiles are listed in Switch Profiles, and the new one was 
selected.
So, it wasn't a file conversion problem, but inattention on my part. 
Nevertheless, your questions were good ones, as the conversion process 
has often been a source of problems.


Thank you for your help, even though the answer went another direction. 
You've save my life (well, my SM anyhow) on several other occasions, and 
are a greatly appreciated resource here.


Larry
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Re: Profile Problems--New Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

Larry S. wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife received her new computer (Windows 7). She d/l SM 2.14
then, to
recover her profile from her older computer, we copied the saved copy
from her thumb drive and pasted it into a new profile which we had
emptied out.

SM fails when she tries to start using the new profile, saying it
can't
find the bookmarks.html file from her *default* profile (the one we
supposedly aren't using). Note: On her old computer her SM home page
was
Bookmarks.html, which somehow doesn't show up in the copied profile.

Questions: What did we do wrong? Why can't she use the saved/copied
profile?

Larry



Larry, what version of SeaMonkey was your wife using?? Since Ver 2.1 or
so, bookmarks (and History and some other stuff) have been stored in a
file called places.sqlite


Good question, Daniel, but probably not the issue. She's using 2.14, but
here's the problem. While the notice is that the file can't be found, it
says that it can't be found in the *default* profile. The problem is
that at the time she's using the *new* profile, so there shouldn't be a
search for the file in the other one. Seems to be the wrong message, but
we can't make it go away.


Are you /sure/ she's using the new profile?  Did you create a new
shortcut pointing to the new profile?  If not, SM will use the default
it created.




Note: Of course there's no bookmarks.html in the default profile since
that was part of the brand new d/l of 2.14 into the brand new computer.
The file has not been created yet. But that's the wrong place to look!

Questions: (1) Was copying the profile contents from the saved copy into
a newly-created profile the right way to do it?, and


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_SeaMonkey


(2) Was there
something else to do to use the new profile, other than ToolsSwitch
Profiles?


Hmm.  I've never used that method so I can't be sure.  I use customized
shortcuts specifying the profile.

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_commands.php

I suggest you create a new shortcut (or modify the existing one) to
point to the new profile and use that to start SM.



Thank you for a good hint. We double checked that she was, in fact,
using the new profile. We verified that both profiles existed, and
checked that both appeared in the profiles.ini file (which your
pointing to the Mozillazine article made me  aware of). Further the
ini file pointed to the new profile.

So, what was the problem? It was simple, and stupid, operator error, as
so many are. I hadn't noticed that the home page pointer in Preferences
was still pointing the Default profile. Fixed that, and voila!, problem
solved. Wouldn't have checked that for a long time if you hadn't started
me along the right path. So, thank you again!

Larry


Happy to help, Larry.

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Re: Profile Problems--New Windows 7

[Daniel]

Larry S. wrote:

My wife received her new computer (Windows 7). She d/l SM 2.14 then, to
recover her profile from her older computer, we copied the saved copy
from her thumb drive and pasted it into a new profile which we had
emptied out.

SM fails when she tries to start using the new profile, saying it can't
find the bookmarks.html file from her *default* profile (the one we
supposedly aren't using). Note: On her old computer her SM home page was
Bookmarks.html, which somehow doesn't show up in the copied profile.

Questions: What did we do wrong? Why can't she use the saved/copied
profile?

Larry



Larry, what version of SeaMonkey was your wife using?? Since Ver 2.1 or 
so, bookmarks (and History and some other stuff) have been stored in a 
file called places.sqlite


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Re: Profile Problems--New Windows 7

[Larry S.]

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife received her new computer (Windows 7). She d/l SM 2.14 then, to
recover her profile from her older computer, we copied the saved copy
from her thumb drive and pasted it into a new profile which we had
emptied out.

SM fails when she tries to start using the new profile, saying it can't
find the bookmarks.html file from her *default* profile (the one we
supposedly aren't using). Note: On her old computer her SM home page was
Bookmarks.html, which somehow doesn't show up in the copied profile.

Questions: What did we do wrong? Why can't she use the saved/copied
profile?

Larry



Larry, what version of SeaMonkey was your wife using?? Since Ver 2.1 or
so, bookmarks (and History and some other stuff) have been stored in a
file called places.sqlite

Good question, Daniel, but probably not the issue. She's using 2.14, but 
here's the problem. While the notice is that the file can't be found, it 
says that it can't be found in the *default* profile. The problem is 
that at the time she's using the *new* profile, so there shouldn't be a 
search for the file in the other one. Seems to be the wrong message, but 
we can't make it go away.


Note: Of course there's no bookmarks.html in the default profile since 
that was part of the brand new d/l of 2.14 into the brand new computer. 
The file has not been created yet. But that's the wrong place to look!


Questions: (1) Was copying the profile contents from the saved copy into 
a newly-created profile the right way to do it?, and (2) Was there 
something else to do to use the new profile, other than ToolsSwitch 
Profiles?


Thanks for your help over the years!

Larry
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Re: Profile Problems--New Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife received her new computer (Windows 7). She d/l SM 2.14 then, to
recover her profile from her older computer, we copied the saved copy
from her thumb drive and pasted it into a new profile which we had
emptied out.

SM fails when she tries to start using the new profile, saying it can't
find the bookmarks.html file from her *default* profile (the one we
supposedly aren't using). Note: On her old computer her SM home page was
Bookmarks.html, which somehow doesn't show up in the copied profile.

Questions: What did we do wrong? Why can't she use the saved/copied
profile?

Larry



Larry, what version of SeaMonkey was your wife using?? Since Ver 2.1 or
so, bookmarks (and History and some other stuff) have been stored in a
file called places.sqlite


Good question, Daniel, but probably not the issue. She's using 2.14, but
here's the problem. While the notice is that the file can't be found, it
says that it can't be found in the *default* profile. The problem is
that at the time she's using the *new* profile, so there shouldn't be a
search for the file in the other one. Seems to be the wrong message, but
we can't make it go away.


Are you /sure/ she's using the new profile?  Did you create a new 
shortcut pointing to the new profile?  If not, SM will use the default 
it created.





Note: Of course there's no bookmarks.html in the default profile since
that was part of the brand new d/l of 2.14 into the brand new computer.
The file has not been created yet. But that's the wrong place to look!

Questions: (1) Was copying the profile contents from the saved copy into
a newly-created profile the right way to do it?, and


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_SeaMonkey


(2) Was there
something else to do to use the new profile, other than ToolsSwitch
Profiles?


Hmm.  I've never used that method so I can't be sure.  I use customized 
shortcuts specifying the profile.


http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_commands.php

I suggest you create a new shortcut (or modify the existing one) to 
point to the new profile and use that to start SM.



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Profile Problems--New Windows 7

[Larry S.]

My wife received her new computer (Windows 7). She d/l SM 2.14 then, to 
recover her profile from her older computer, we copied the saved copy 
from her thumb drive and pasted it into a new profile which we had 
emptied out.


SM fails when she tries to start using the new profile, saying it can't 
find the bookmarks.html file from her *default* profile (the one we 
supposedly aren't using). Note: On her old computer her SM home page was 
Bookmarks.html, which somehow doesn't show up in the copied profile.


Questions: What did we do wrong? Why can't she use the saved/copied 
profile?


Larry

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Seamonket, Windows 7, Taskbar buttons, and Combine when full

[Philip TAYLOR]

I do not know whether this is a Windows 7 bug (?feature?) or
one originating from Seamonkey ...

Over the course of a few days, I typically end up with more
Seamonkey windows open than can all be displayed when I click
on the Seamonkey button in my taskbar.  I am fairly certain
that the behaviour /used/ to be that when I clicked on that
button, the subset of Seamonkey windows that was displayed
would always include the last-active window, but this is no
longer the case.  Now when I click on the Seamonkey button,
the subset displayed is always that subset at the top of the
list (i.e., the longest open Seamonkey windows), which is never
what I want.  Is this a change in the Seamonkey interface to
Windows 7, to Windows 7 itself, or am I simply confused at to
what I remember as the previous (and preferable) behaviour ?

Philip Taylor

P.S. No Aero nonsense : this is the so-called Basic and
High Contrast theme : Windows Classic.
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Seamonkey 2.11 For windows 7 requires admin privs?

[Amy and Dave Rivera]

Hello,

I am running seamonkey 2.11 trying to access mail folders that reside on 
a file server. Seamonkey is not displaying the email messages on the 
server unless I run the program from an account that is an administrator 
on the workstation. Is there a way to run seamonkey so the user does not 
have to be an administrator?


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Profile Manager seems not to create new profile in Windows 7 x 64

[mmech mmech]

Hi everyone,
I am transitioning from Vista to Windows 7. I've been using Seamonkey
for years now and migrating from XP, Vista, etc quite successfuly.
Overall, Seamonkey browser seems to be working fine. I do not have any
issue.

The problem that I am facing  is with the Profile Manager (again under
Windows 7 x64). For sake of discussion, I am using Seamonkey 2.10 and
I have also tried the new 2.11 beta. No difference in what I am
describing below.

I am trying to generate a new profile to add to the default profile
you get. As example, I am using Test. I went through the All
Program -- Seamonkey -- Profile Manager route. Then, go to Create
Profile. Then, I can enter the new name. But, when I click Finish,
nothing refresh (I can keep pressing Finish but there is no reaction,
that windows remains there). Then, I have to click Cancel to skip that
window. After clicking Cancel, I am back to Profile Manager window,
but no profile is generated under Available Profiles. Nevertheless,
and curiously, I can see that a new folder has been created under
AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/Seamonkey/Profiles. But, this new profile is
not available through the Profile manager. I tried to close and open
Seamonkey to see if it will refresh, but it is not there.

Then, I tried using Tools--Switch Profile and then create a new
profile. The same problem happens when you reach Finish buttom. That
windows does not react and you do not see a new Profile being created.
You get stick in the Finish windows and the only using Cancel you can
get back to Profile Manager windows. In the Profile Manager windows no
new profile appears. However, in this case, if I close the Profile
Manager window and I reopen it again (through Tools--Switch Profile),
I can see a new Profile being created. This was promising. HOWEVER, if
I close Seamonkey and I check if the new profile is available through
All Program --Seamonkey--Profile Manager, I cannot see the new
profile at all. Furthermore, after re-opening Seamonkey, if now Ii go
back again to Tools-Switch Profile the new profile is not being shown
anymore. Once again, if I check on AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/Seamonkey/
Profiles I can see that a neww folder has been opened, simply is not
being shown as part of the available profiless.

Because, it seems to me that this problem is related to x64 or Windows
7 (I used Windows Vista x32 in a different machine without problem to
create new profile), I decided to use the Windows Virtual PC on the
same computer. I downloaded the Seamonekey and installed under the
Windows Virtual PC. Then, I went to All Program --Seamonkey--Profile
Manager. The Profile Manager opened and I click Create New Profile. I
typed the new profile name and click Finish. And immediatly, the new
Profile was added in the Profile Manager. The Finish buttom worked
perfectly under the Windows Virtual PC . Also, the new profile was
created and was available after closing and opening Seamonkey again.
All this, once again, under Windows Virtual PC.

So, it seems that something in the Profile Manager is not working well
under Windows 7 or, alternative, it is a 64 bits issue. As far as I
understand, the Windows Virtual PC runs in XP mode and 32 bits.

My temporal fix is to use Seamonkey through the Windows Virtual PC,
but this is annoying as I need to be switching windows and I would
like to migrate completely to Windows 7 and x64 bits.

So, I would like too know if this is a know issue by Seamonkey and if
there is a fix too go through and create a new Profile that is
available after opening or closing Seamonkey. Thanks.
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Re: SM icon for .htm file type in windows 7 with SM 2.1

[Ray_Net]

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I was fiddling making different browser the default browser.
Each time in explorer per exemple the filename.htm icon is the icon 
of the default browser.

Then i re-instate SM as the default browser.
BUT in explorer, per exemple the filename.htm icon is just an empty 
square.
I have looked in the registry - all is ok, the file type extension 
.htm points to:

C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\chrome\icons\default\html-file.ico
So all is good, except that explorer cannot show me the icon near the 
filename.

Perhaps the html-file.ico is not a good icon ?
As i can see, this is *another* bug of SM. IE and Opera are able to 
modify windows in such a way that the corresponding icon is shown near 
the filenem in explorer (details mode)
I just upgrade my SM by uninstall the 2.1 version then install the 2.7.2 
version and .miracle

The SM icons re-appeared !!! :-)
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Re: SM icon for .htm file type in windows 7 with SM 2.1

[Ray_Net]

Ray_Net wrote:

I was fiddling making different browser the default browser.
Each time in explorer per exemple the filename.htm icon is the icon 
of the default browser.

Then i re-instate SM as the default browser.
BUT in explorer, per exemple the filename.htm icon is just an empty 
square.
I have looked in the registry - all is ok, the file type extension 
.htm points to:

C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\chrome\icons\default\html-file.ico
So all is good, except that explorer cannot show me the icon near the 
filename.

Perhaps the html-file.ico is not a good icon ?
As i can see, this is *another* bug of SM. IE and Opera are able to 
modify windows in such a way that the corresponding icon is shown near 
the filenem in explorer (details mode)

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