Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-10 Thread Jim Leonard
John Romero wrote: > > I worked on it with my friend Lane Roathe. Lane did the 256-byte RWTS > routine (the low-level) and I did the high-level code that supported the > disk structure and API. There's an easter egg in there too. :) Here's > a link to it: http://hometown.aol.com/graemecree/info

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2003-02-09 Thread John Romero
> - I'm assuming it was written from scratch. What did it have that > DOS/ProDOS didn't? Smaller footprint, faster, no Apple royalties :)? Yeah, it was VERY small - that was the major requirement. It took up $D000-$D3FF, which is 1k. I gave it a ProDOS-like API so it was easy to use, but it w

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-09 Thread Dan Chisarick
A few questions about InfoDOS... - I'm assuming it was written from scratch. What did it have that DOS/ProDOS didn't? Smaller footprint, faster, no Apple royalties :)? - How long did it take to write? - Last, were you pretty much on your own writing it (here's a buncha requirements, get us s

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2003-02-08 Thread John Romero
> Ah, my fault. I forgot some of my Apple ][ history. I > had forgotten > how easy it for people to write their own OSes for the A2. > Did you do > anything different for the IIGS or was InfoDOS just targeted to the > II+/e/c Apples? I never worked with the IIGS so I'm curious if muc

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-07 Thread Edward Franks
On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 07:15 PM, John Romero wrote: [Snip] The ZCode stuff was external to the OS - I just did the OS part. Ah, my fault. I forgot some of my Apple ][ history. I had forgotten how easy it for people to write their own OSes for the A2. Did you do anything differen

RE: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-07 Thread John Romero
ts so we just registered it and got it. - John > -Original Message- > From: Edward Franks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 2:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings > > > > On Friday, February 7, 2003,

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2003-02-07 Thread Edward Franks
On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 01:41 AM, John Romero wrote: Speaking of Zork, y'all might not care (or you might think it's neat), but I co-created Infocom's "InfoDOS" that was the OS for Zork Zero, Arthur & 2 other Infocom titles. Back in the 80's. :O I love the old Infocom games. Zork i

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2003-02-06 Thread John Romero
tuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:37 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Greetings > > > > Why do I have a feeling that if this hobby ever goes the way > of other ones, with a price guide and stuff like

RE: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-05 Thread Hugh Falk
ng redundant, and it should just be (T), but you get the point. Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings Jim Leonard stated: > >I agree that NM (S) i

RE: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-05 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart
al Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings I'd downgrade to "Fine" myself, but that's just me. If I see "NM (S)" anywhere I will know what it means. --

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2003-02-05 Thread C.E. Forman
I'd downgrade to "Fine" myself, but that's just me. If I see "NM (S)" anywhere I will know what it means. - Original Message - From: "Lee K. Seitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:21 P

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-05 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Jim Leonard stated: > >I agree that NM (S) is possible if there is one extremely minor defect, but >the box is still sealed. I will modify the main page at mobygames to reflect >this if there are none opposed. Anyone? Just try to spell out what "extremely minor" means. What are people's beliefs

RE: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-05 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart
Make that over 29 and under 39, since I'm subscribed twice : ) Stuart -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings Alexander Zoller wrote: > > Jim, how

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2003-02-05 Thread Jim Leonard
"C.E. Forman" wrote: > > I would request that we not expand the Mobyscale. It was designed to be > flexible so individual collectors can tailor it to their individual needs. I concur. Verbiage and examples I have no problem modifying, but the main grades and concepts are very solid. However, a

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-05 Thread Jim Leonard
Hugh Falk wrote: > > Where the conditions are listed, it clearly states that NM is "no defects, > > no wrap", but you mentioned that NM can have the modifier of (S)? I > > certainly understand the need for NM (S), but perhaps you should modify that > > page a bit to clear things up? > > Good poi

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-05 Thread Jim Leonard
CcomputerGameCollector wrote: > > I figured I'd take a look around the web for a type of clear plastic case > (kind of like an oversized VHS case or something like that) that would fit > most computer games, and buy a bunch bulk, and start putting all of my > collection in them. It seemed like a

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-05 Thread Jim Leonard
CcomputerGameCollector wrote: > > Just and update on CGC; I've pretty much completed the collection importer, > but I've decided to hold off on making it public. The masterlist simply is > not expansive enough for it to be effective. So, I'm just concentrating on > building the masterlist, and w

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2003-02-05 Thread Jim Leonard
Alexander Zoller wrote: > > Jim, how many people have subscribed to the list so far? I'm curious if > there are a lot of lurkers :) Over 30 and under 40. Can't give exact numbers because I'm on the train right now and can't check it :-) -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensiv

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings from The Origin Museum

2002-11-13 Thread Marco Thorek
Heah Joe, nice to have you on board :) Perhaps you remember me, Marco from infocom-if.org. You were one of the first people that ever visited my site. Marco Origin Museum schrieb: > > I was told about this board some time ago, but I finally got the time to join--YAY! > > I know most of the p

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-18 Thread Edward Franks
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 02:33 PM, Marco Thorek wrote: [Snip] I am a bit late about it, but all the best to your wife, Ed! Thank you very much. -- Edward Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- This message was sent to you

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-18 Thread Edward Franks
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 03:15 AM, Pedro Quaresma wrote: [Snip] I'm sorry to hear about your wife. I hope you two find the miracle you seek. Thank you. -- Edward Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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2002-10-17 Thread Marco Thorek
Edward Franks schrieb: > > Thank you. Both my wife and I have been touched by everyone's > support. It is a big boost to us to see all the support from our > fellow collectors despite any past clashes. Helping other enthusiasts > is what got both of us into collecting and trading the o

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-17 Thread Marco Thorek
Edward Franks schrieb: > > On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 06:58 AM, C.E. Forman wrote: > > > > > Sure, it'd be great to have someone in the industry who's also a > > serious > > collector. > > I'll second that. In my (limited) dealings with John I've always had > a pleasant experie

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-17 Thread Pedro Quaresma
r humanity." - Albert Einstein                               Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings Edward Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>     16-10-2002 02:30 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, at 05:42  PM, C.E. Forman wrote: &

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-16 Thread C.E. Forman
> The late George Alec? When did he die? What a bummer -- I would have > helped him had I known. I loved his work, especially his Budayeen > series. No wonder I never found any new releases from him during every > visit to a B&N or Borders. April 27th, this year, from a heart attack. He was actu

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-16 Thread hughfalk
Hey, I'm in the industry, too! Okay, so he might have more press releases with his name on it, but does he have a completely amateurish site dedicated to game collecting? I didn’t think so! :-) Hugh On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 06:58:15 -0500 "C.E. Forman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If it's ok w

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-16 Thread Edward Franks
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 06:58 AM, C.E. Forman wrote: >> If it's ok with you guys I'll try to contact him and invite him to the >> list. > > Sure, it'd be great to have someone in the industry who's also a > serious > collector. I'll second that. In my (limited) dealings wi

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-16 Thread Edward Franks
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 06:57 AM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] > Ditto YOIS, just let me know what your plans are when you decide. Thank you. Both my wife and I have been touched by everyone's support. It is a big boost to us to see all the support from our fellow collectors

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2002-10-16 Thread Edward Franks
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 06:12 AM, CcomputerGameCollector wrote: [Snip] > Sorry to here that bro. A group of fund-type auctions were surely > help. I'm > sure. As far as promoting, there are many ways. Eli Thomlinson would > gladly put a link on his page, I would put one on CGC, a

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-16 Thread Edward Franks
On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, at 09:08 PM, Lee K. Seitz wrote: [Snip] > I'm very sorry to hear about that. Makes my continuing unemployment > seem trivial in comparison. I wish you both the best in getting > through it. I guess I shouldn't tell you how long I've been out of work. I t

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-16 Thread Edward Franks
On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, at 08:57 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] > Definitely a good one, in the sense that you'd be sparing the winner > from > being harrassed with requests for image copies. But do offer to > e-mail an > HTML version of the final auction page after close (with the winni

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2002-10-16 Thread Chris Newman
The late George Alec? When did he die? What a bummer -- I would have helped him had I known. I loved his work, especially his Budayeen series. No wonder I never found any new releases from him during every visit to a B&N or Borders. Do you recall his e-mail address? Was it [EMAIL PROTECTED] or so

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-16 Thread C.E. Forman
> If it's ok with you guys I'll try to contact him and invite him to the > list. Sure, it'd be great to have someone in the industry who's also a serious collector. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently sub

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-16 Thread C.E. Forman
> Sorry to here that bro. A group of fund-type auctions were surely help. I'm > sure. As far as promoting, there are many ways. Eli Thomlinson would > gladly put a link on his page, I would put one on CGC, as I'm sure just > about anyone else you contact would. Ditto YOIS, just let me know wha

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-16 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings > > On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, at 05:42 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: > > >> I am, unfortunately, in the position of looking at some serious > >> m

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-15 Thread Marco Thorek
Edward Franks schrieb: > > I've always wondered what John Romero would pay for one (assuming he > doesn't have one already). :) He's a big time Ultima and Apple ][ fan. > I think he would be a great member of this list if he isn't already. > A while ago I started to receive a good numbe

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-15 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Edward Franks spake thusly into the ether: > > Seriously, my wife has been diagnosed with stage IV lung cancer. >Barring a miracle, the lung cancer is basically incurable. I feel >awkward bringing it up, but I'm interested in getting all the advice I >can about selling Drash. I'm very

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-15 Thread C.E. Forman
> I've also thought about making the auction 'private' in the sense you > wouldn't know who would be bidding on the game. Do you all think that > this would be a good idea or a bad one? Definitely a good one, in the sense that you'd be sparing the winner from being harrassed with requests for im

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-15 Thread Edward Franks
On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, at 05:42 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: >> I am, unfortunately, in the position of looking at some serious >> medical bills. At this point if I could sell Drash for enough to make >> a dent in those bills I would (it wouldn't be worth it for any thing >> less -- I have en

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-15 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
sterlist is much larger before I even start letting people attempt to import collections. If you want to see it, I'll give you the URL via private email at this time. - Original Message - From: "C.E. Forman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-15 Thread C.E. Forman
> I am, unfortunately, in the position of looking at some serious > medical bills. At this point if I could sell Drash for enough to make > a dent in those bills I would (it wouldn't be worth it for any thing > less -- I have enough minor stuff I can sell/auction off). Aw man, sorry to hear that

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-15 Thread C.E. Forman
> Just and update on CGC; I've pretty much completed the collection importer, > but I've decided to hold off on making it public. The masterlist simply is > not expansive enough for it to be effective. So, I'm just concentrating on > building the masterlist, and when I feel it's large enough to

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-15 Thread Alexander Zoller
ent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 6:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings On Sunday, October 6, 2002, at 08:07 AM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Snip] > It's obviously futile to debate the value of this game. I'd call it a > safe > bet though it wou

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-15 Thread Edward Franks
On Sunday, October 6, 2002, at 08:07 AM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Snip] > It's obviously futile to debate the value of this game. I'd call it a > safe > bet though it would fetch a princely sum on eBay. Personally I wouldn't > hesitate to put down serious money myself, I'm actually keeping some

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-14 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
Hey all, Just and update on CGC; I've pretty much completed the collection importer, but I've decided to hold off on making it public. The masterlist simply is not expansive enough for it to be effective. So, I'm just concentrating on building the masterlist, and when I feel it's large enough t

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-08 Thread hughfalk
----- > From: "C.E. Forman" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:31 AM > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings > > > > > Why was it designed to be flexible so > individual collectors could tailor > > it > > > to individual needs? I mig

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-08 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
ay, October 08, 2002 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings > > Why was it designed to be flexible so individual collectors could tailor > it > > to individual needs? I might be mistaken, but wasn't the scale designed > to > > be universal? Being able to tailor an

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-08 Thread C.E. Forman
> Why was it designed to be flexible so individual collectors could tailor it > to individual needs? I might be mistaken, but wasn't the scale designed to > be universal? Being able to tailor anything universal creates confusion, > no? Because different collectors have slightly different needs.

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2002-10-08 Thread C.E. Forman
> I also think NM (S) is still valid. What if you have a defect on the shrink > other than a tear (like writing)? I wouldn't call it MS. Ah, good point. "NM (S)" could indeed apply if there's a defect on the wrap, but not the game package. ---

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2002-10-08 Thread C.E. Forman
> Good point about (S) (T). I agree it's redundant. (T) alone works. What > about (C)? The original reason that we had (C) was for a game that was > sealed, but had become "compressed" due to the air getting sucked out of the > shrink. However, the current wording for MobyScale could also use

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-07 Thread Lee K. Seitz
CcomputerGameCollector spake thusly into the ether: > >I figured I'd take a look around the web for a type of clear plastic case >(kind of like an oversized VHS case or something like that) that would fit >most computer games, and buy a bunch bulk, and start putting all of my >collection in them.

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2002-10-07 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
ROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings > Okay, so back to my original questions, what do you do if the box is missing > and the map is missing, but you have the disk and manual? > > You say: "When I have

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2002-10-07 Thread hughfalk
Okay, so back to my original questions, what do you do if the box is missing and the map is missing, but you have the disk and manual? You say: "When I have a single loose prop or disk (or a completely empty box), I grade it with only only one Mobyscore based on its condition. " Can you give a s

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-07 Thread hughfalk
Good point about (S) (T). I agree it's redundant. (T) alone works. What about (C)? The original reason that we had (C) was for a game that was sealed, but had become "compressed" due to the air getting sucked out of the shrink. However, the current wording for MobyScale could also use (C) for

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2002-10-07 Thread C.E. Forman
>One thing that might make the list shorter...I've never used IM and MMC >modifiers for the same game I'm already set up to use both modifiers. It may be a bit superfluous, but I prefer it simply because it's more accurate at a glance. If you look at a modifier of "IM" your first thought would

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2002-10-07 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
Here's a question: I figured I'd take a look around the web for a type of clear plastic case (kind of like an oversized VHS case or something like that) that would fit most computer games, and buy a bunch bulk, and start putting all of my collection in them. It seemed like a good idea. However,

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-07 Thread Alexander Zöller
ginal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings At first I agreed that MO is a good idea, but it doesn't clear up the entire issue. What if you have a floppy and its disk sleeve? W

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2002-10-07 Thread hughfalk
At first I agreed that MO is a good idea, but it doesn't clear up the entire issue. What if you have a floppy and its disk sleeve? What if you have a floppy and manual only (but not the map). These would still be vaild uses of IM/IM, with a note as to what you have or what is missing. I still

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-07 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
> IM modifier: if the box is missing you obviously can't grade its condition, > so ED would be misleading just like you said. Perhaps IM should represent a > modifier _and_ condition, at least as far as the packaging is concerned. If > you only have the floppy in flawless shape the correct grading

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-07 Thread Alexander Zöller
Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Greetings Hey guys, Brad and I have been working on this import feature for his site, and one of the things that is coming out of it is a list of every possible combination

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2002-10-06 Thread Hugh Falk
do I say IM/IM might be wrong? Well IM is a modifier and not actually a condition and therefore shouldn't stand on it's own. Thoughts? Hugh -Original Message- From: CcomputerGameCollector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECT

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2002-10-06 Thread Hugh Falk
Good point. Anyone else? Jim? -Original Message- From: CcomputerGameCollector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings Where the conditions are listed, it clearly states that NM is "no defects, no

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-06 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
- From: "Hugh Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:36 AM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Greetings > We were working under the premise that no opened game truly "mint." Mint is > too often used and abused by sellers,

RE: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-06 Thread Hugh Falk
9:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings Here's a question I've been meaning to ask: There is something about the mobyscale I noticed a while back, and I figured since I'm in touch with the people who made it, I should ask now. The grades MS and NM are confu

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-06 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
Here's a question I've been meaning to ask: There is something about the mobyscale I noticed a while back, and I figured since I'm in touch with the people who made it, I should ask now. The grades MS and NM are confusing. By definition, MS stands for no defects in original factory shrinkwrap.

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-06 Thread Alexander Zoller
curious if there are a lot of lurkers :) /Alexander -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 5:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings On Sunday, October 6, 2002, at 08:07 AM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Sni

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2002-10-06 Thread Edward Franks
On Sunday, October 6, 2002, at 08:26 AM, Alexander Zoller wrote: > *stares* > > A decent price, really ;) It took three years for someone to agree with me on the price. :) Even then I had a number of people try to scam me, but the magic word "COD" tended to ward those off quickly.

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-06 Thread Edward Franks
On Sunday, October 6, 2002, at 08:07 AM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Snip] > It's obviously futile to debate the value of this game. I'd call it a > safe > bet though it would fetch a princely sum on eBay. Personally I wouldn't > hesitate to put down serious money myself, I'm actually keeping some

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-06 Thread Edward Franks
On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 10:44 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: > I remember this auction. Gave up around $300 myself. It's an Apple II > version, right? Smaller manual than the TRS-80, which is about the > size of > an Infocom folio. This is the only boxed PS Zork I've ever seen, > though

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2002-10-06 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
t it "for sale". This could be used to calculate "investment" so to speak, which might be a happy medium for those opposing the whole ballpark-price idea. Brad - Original Message - From: "Hugh Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sen

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-06 Thread Alexander Zoller
lue by its title. /Alexander -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 5:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 07:39 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: > Do you mind giving a "r

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2002-10-06 Thread Alexander Zoller
umber. I'd say Akalabeth had a _slightly_ greater impact on the history of computer games. /Alexander -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 2:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings On Satu

RE: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Hugh Falk
Good to know...thanks. -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 07:37 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: > I didn't know there was

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread C.E. Forman
in the U.K. - Original Message - From: "Edward Franks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings > > On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 07:37 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: > > > I

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Edward Franks
On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 07:39 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: > Do you mind giving a "range" for what you paid for Drash? :-) :chuckle: I paid exactly what I offered for three years in comp.sys.cbm. -- Edward Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

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2002-10-05 Thread Edward Franks
On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 07:37 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: > I didn't know there was a shrink-wrapped Personal Software version of > Zork. > My PS Zork is in a magazine-sized ziploc. What kind of box is yours? > Do > you have a scan? > Here you go

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2002-10-05 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
> Which page? You collection pages I thought; this afternoon anyway. - Original Message - From: "C.E. Forman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings > > All the imag

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Jim Leonard
Edward Franks wrote: > > Just be glad that we aren't at the stage of the console games where > all you get is a CD and jewel case. But we are: Max Payne is in a DVD case when you open the box. And most of my smallbox games are little more than a CD and jewelcase with manual inside the

RE: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Hugh Falk
Do you mind giving a "range" for what you paid for Drash? :-) Hugh -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 03:1

RE: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Hugh Falk
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 03:12 PM, CcomputerGameCollector wrote: [Snip] > With CGC, I don't plan on representing an "exact" value, which is why > I use > the range approach. (I.E. $20 - $40) And g

RE: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Hugh Falk
That would be some great info to have. Hugh -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 01:10 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] > Th

RE: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Hugh Falk
be used to calculate the value of the collection? However, I also wouldn't mind seeing it just go away. Hugh -Original Message- From: CcomputerGameCollector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Edward Franks
On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 03:13 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] > Exactly. That was (to my knowledge) the first shrinked saucer ever > listed, > and it created quite a stir. The last one, IIRC, fetched around $600 > - $800 > which is a bit more reasonable, though still more than I'd go.

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Edward Franks
On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 03:12 PM, CcomputerGameCollector wrote: [Snip] > With CGC, I don't plan on representing an "exact" value, which is why > I use > the range approach. (I.E. $20 - $40) And given human nature people will focus on the high end of your range. :-D After a

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Edward Franks
On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 02:59 PM, CcomputerGameCollector wrote: [Snip] > If I want to play any of the old games, they are relatively easy to > acquire > these days over the net. Unfortunately that's true. As a programmer I tend to view piracy (or abandonware for those too d

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
> The other difficulty with price guides is that they don't reflect > regional (or national) variations in prices. One price does *not* fit > all. With CGC, I don't plan on representing an "exact" value, which is why I use the range approach. (I.E. $20 - $40) > Also, I would second your comment

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread C.E. Forman
> All the images on your page seem broken btw! Which page? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
ginal Message - From: "C.E. Forman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Greetings > > What I think I'll eventually do for softwarecollecting.org is make it a > > "portal&q

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
> The downside is that you can attract the speculators who buy up > anything that is shrinkwrapped or vaguely collectible. The speculators > can really create a boom/bust cycle for those casual people that just > want to have fun picking up and/or trading some old games they have > fond memories

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread C.E. Forman
> The other difficulty with price guides is that they don't reflect > regional (or national) variations in prices. One price does *not* fit > all. Definitely true. Complete non-PC Infocom greys can still command a high price in Europe, as they never really made it over there until the Mastertro

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Edward Franks
On Wednesday, October 2, 2002, at 03:18 PM, CcomputerGameCollector wrote: [Snip] > I think what computer software packaging has become is disguisting. > Tiny > boxes, and NEVER shrinkwrapped. It's sad, esp. in a time where some > of the > coolest boxes could probably be created. Was there

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Edward Franks
On Wednesday, October 2, 2002, at 05:12 PM, CcomputerGameCollector wrote: [Snip] > Let's hope that the number of people collecting computer games is > growing > though. That's what we all want, isn't it? The more people who get > into > collecting classic computer games, the funner, and mor

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Edward Franks
On Friday, October 4, 2002, at 10:54 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: [Snip] > However, the news for me is that I don't have it anymore :-(. I've > moved > from Florida to California, and I couldn't take my house with me > (which is > unfortunate since houses are so expensive out here). I'm renting > r

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Edward Franks
On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 01:04 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] > That and bulk lots. With a price guide, someone can go through every > game > they have, add up the "prices", and there's no shot at a bargain. > (Worse, > they'll pick the good stuff out and sell it separately.) I don't

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Jim Leonard
"C.E. Forman" wrote: > > > Interestingly, although the manufacturing costs for manuals and > > packaging probably dropped considerably after this strategy, the prices > > for games stayed the same and with the introduction of the Euro even > > increased by roughly $5. > > That's the worst part o

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread Edward Franks
On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 01:10 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] > That's the worst part of it. They decrease their costs but don't pass > any > savings on to us. (Same way movie theaters piss me off by showing 10 > commercials before a flick while ticket prices remain constant.)

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread C.E. Forman
> What I think I'll eventually do for softwarecollecting.org is make it a > "portal" of sorts, where a software collecting FAQ can exist, with pictures > (explaining the different types of shrinkwrap, how to spot fakes, "good" > shrinkwrap holes vs. bad ones, illustrated examples of the various gr

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread C.E. Forman
> Around here, in Germany, it was 12-18 months ago. EA was the first to > announce that cardboard boxes are "outdated" and subsequently published > new games only in DVD cases. Others followed shortly after. I noticed this, when I was over in Germany in April. There was a store in France that ha

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread C.E. Forman
> Definitely. The hobby is still in its infancy, by the number of active > collectors at least. The more people are participating, the more serious > this will become. We could get some actual media coverage, take to the > expos, etc. I'm trying to get the CGE in Vegas to open up more to software

Re: [SWCollect] Greetings

2002-10-05 Thread C.E. Forman
(Sorry I'm jumping in late here. Busy week, and I'm just getting caught up now.) > Price guide: many of us are reluctant to work with fixed prices. It tends > to take some of the fun out of collecting if everyone knows what they can > expect for an item. Cruel as it may sound, I prefer to deal w

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