age including typical
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of taps. Amongst them:
The term tap is widely used to describe the valve used to
dispense draft beer from a keg, whether gravity feed or pressurized.
If a pull-type tap is so widely called tap, a push-type does IMHO
qualify too, as it is only inverted direction of movement.
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mble. Thus, only
scramble=grade1 remains by definition, so it cannot add any information
and shall be removed from the proposal.
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tagging for thousands of paths but we have AFAIK no effective means to
document which paths have been checked (e.g. MapRoulette does not help
much here).
Hence, I speak up for and strongly prefer to limit variances of
definitions as much as possible, e.g. where simply not at all applica
t;iffy" to drive upon (especially with > about 3% or 4% slope)
Exactly this is one major reason why I consider most surface=compacted
to not not qualify for tracktype=grade1.
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or Bengaluru
https://www.openstreetmap.org/query?lat=12.84703=77.67096 so I
cannot see & tell you how to tag.
In case noone has a better answer: Maybe you find a way to contact
Indian mappers?
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still need years – but that's very likely the same with any approach to
make highway=path less ambiguous.
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as scramble, i.e. they simply do not use the
metal but the rock unless conditions are harsh.
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ferrata and easy climb.
I suggest we first decide whether we find the general concept of
highway=scramble to be useful and want to introduce it at all. In case
we answer this positively, then focus on working out the exact details
like what's the exact sac scale threshold, etc.
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expected to show/consider scrambles, but many people do only car
navigation, kayaking, cycling,... and will even be happy to get rid of
"all the useless clutter"
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> If a sign says a path will make you scamble somewhere
Despite hiking in many different regions and terrains and grades, I
can't recall I ever saw such a sign besides fun/prank/ironic ones like
"student crossing"
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41ePl0GmRtL.__
st not be a
scramble, by their definition, and the relevant information is certainly
existing in OSM DB. Only remaining bigger risk is that map and territory
are not matching.
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ot; and "alpine hike with many safety
measures" like https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:safety_rope and
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:rungs
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- waterski
- wind-/kitesurfing
- waterscooter/jetski
So the access restriction boat=* could only be used for 'sport' boats
with motor or sail.
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Am 20.10.2019 um 11:24 schrieb Markus:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 23:02, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
+1, or e.g. sidewalk:right=lane
there are a few instances tagged like this:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/sidewalk%3Aright=lane
18 out of 30 are additionally tagged sidewalk=right. I
ow - and I thought you
had at least knowledge of it from the german forum.
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Am 15.01.2019 um 14:43 schrieb Marc Gemis:
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 1:55 PM Georg Feddern wrote:
tourism=caravan_site is the one where you (at least in Europe) only can
stay with motorhomes (selfpropelled) - but not with caravans (towed).
but the wiki states on
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org
For
link roads, the lowest.
>
> I could see an exception for motorway onramps, indicating "starting
here you can't get off the motorway".
>
>
I could agree with you - with the exception of motorway on- and
off-ramps, which are always motorway_link up to the end
'english' countries - may be even for the Brexiters. ;-)
Language: You can use every word for every meaning - you just have to
agree about what the meaning is. ;-)
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right dealer for me (e.g. motorhome), so it
would be necessary to distuingish them.
Because there are mixed shops and all fall under caravaning, I suppose a
subkey would be necessary - but yet I did not found a useful one or know
a possible new one.
Any ideas?
R
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Am 15.10.2018 um 16:38 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
Am Mo., 15. Okt. 2018 um 14:21 Uhr schrieb Tom Pfeifer
mailto:t.pfei...@computer.org>>:
On 15.10.2018 10:57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 3. amenity=creche and amenity=nursery
> For both tags amenity=kindergarten is suggested
Am 17.09.2018 um 16:17 schrieb Florian Lohoff:
is it intentional that StreetComplete tags the maxspeed source/type in
maxspeed:type instead of the much more used source:maxspeed?
If you search the german forum you will find that it is indeed intentional:
StreetComplete wird maxspeed:type
Am 23.05.2018 um 22:33 schrieb Greg Troxel:
Florian Lohoff writes:
I now see increasing usage of service roads as a category below
unclassified. People tagging "smaller roads" in the countryside
as a service roads.
I think this is basically wrong tagging.
I find this a little
Am 10.01.2018 um 12:32 schrieb Ilya Zverev:
Selfish Seahorse wrote:
The course of the route is determined by the order of the stops in the
route relation. Therefore forward/backward roles would be redundant.
But stops are not mandatory in public transport routes, unlike
highways/railways!
I
Am 28.11.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Selfish Seahorse:
On 28 November 2017 at 11:26, Georg Feddern <o...@bavarianmallet.de>
wrote:
Yes, unfortunately the european common-in-use traffic sign "VEHICLES
PROHIBITED EXCEPT MOTORBIKE/SIDECAR" or "Prohibited for any
double-tracked
Am 28.11.2017 um 10:00 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
On 27. Nov 2017, at 13:51, Selfish Seahorse > wrote:
Sorry for asking again, but does anyone know if motorcar=no implies
that there is no access for all multi-track motor vehicles
is in the order of the
relation and the platforms.
Thoughts?
Done. ;-)
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looseness.
it may be not 'the best' tag - but is it not very similar to 'asphalt'?
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Am 27.03.2017 um 17:29 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2017-03-27 16:34 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis >:
In the case you have added e.g. a stop sign on the way. A second
mapper comes in, splits the way on the stop sign, reverts the
direction
Am 02.11.2016 um 22:57 schrieb Tijmen Stam:
On 02-11-16 20:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
careful with access=no, I suggest to use vehicle=no in this case,
because you risk of excluding pedestrians (and other means of
transport you didn't think about) as well (happened around here in
the
Am 26.08.2016 um 14:18 schrieb Kieron Thwaites:
I can, however, see the rationale behind tagging "none;slight_right",
as well as tagging nothing at all, and as such, I think that this is
an issue that we need to find consensus on. That said, I believe Paul
is quite correct with his statement
I consider the visual lane assistance as it is named - as an assistance
useful where there are several options.
If there is no assistance anybody who get the advice "take the exit"
(*) should obviously use the rightmost lane.
So even _no_ turn lane tagging would be an option for me in this
Am 14.08.2016 um 23:24 schrieb Stefan de Konink:
On zondag 14 augustus 2016 22:43:04 CEST, Marc Gemis wrote:
IMHO, the value of the highway tag should define its use, not the
surface from which it is made.
So highway=pedestrian (or service or ...), surface=grass; area=yes
makes more sense to me
.
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Am 28.03.2016 um 08:28 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
Am 27.03.2016 um 21:59 schrieb Colin Smale :
If we can't mark polygons as fuzzy, then we can only allow 'accurate' polygons
well, as was proposed above, we could introduce a way to store fuzzy areas
without using
At all - what's the matter with the already said "highway=service" only
if you can not distinguish the service or if it is a "bigger" service road?
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Am 27.11.2015 um 15:46 schrieb André Pirard:
Have you noticed that some borderlines are *hexaplicated* (that they
appear in 6 different relations) and that *that* is unhealthy
redundancy that is made unnecessary by subareas?
And that, unlike wanting to destroy an enemy, the programs I spoke
added the tag
highway=crossing (and kept the traffic_calming=* tag)
highway=crossing obsolete in this cases?
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highway=crossing and with traffic_calming=* should be
identified as a traffic_calming
we won't need highway=traffic_calming anymore ...
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between the
poles - like the horizontal poles in the wooden 'pole' example.
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to the way in the
relevant direction - with all possibilities, but even all obstacles also ...
I do not support this "node on way" strategy - I use only the node
beside way as tagging for the sign itself - and "always on the right
side" ;-) - at
l.
The normal road traffic has not to obey these sign - but any street work
or use (crawling ;) ) at the waterside.
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Is a carrière
- sport_practice when there is just training
but
- sport when there is a competion?
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/75844692 ) are pubs that do
accommodation, but not really hotels, so I'd use accommodation=yes for
those.
Why not the already established tourism=guest_house for this B offer?
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Am 27.08.2015 um 18:49 schrieb Philip Barnes:
A disused pub, providing it still looks like a pub, is still a useful
navigational feature. Pubs have always been the normal way of giving
directions.
http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/PrKK4Y3JBpdF3jg6fnLM1g/photo
Turn right by The White Horse, carry
Am 30.06.2015 um 19:15 schrieb Robin Schneider:
On 30.06.2015 14:04, Marc Gemis wrote:
in the local language (e.g 123 nach␣Vereinbarung
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/opening_hours=%22nach%20Vereinbarung%22
--
German for by appointment)
IMHO this means that there is nothing to
Am 14.04.2015 um 07:28 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 00:08:31 +0200
Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Separated_cycle_and_foot_path.jpg
I would add also surface (and maybe smoothness) as this one seems
to be quite
!
A second tag would not change the mind of a consumer about the meaning ...
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Nevertheless e. g. all highway=residential are _designated_ by law -
without any signs at all... - which leads to _my_ understanding of
designated ...
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you consider buildings that are - at least partly - raised on
pillars/columns with a pedestrian area underneath?
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, then proceed as described above.
As far as I know there is no automatic way to do one of these.
I would recommend the plug-in utilsplugin2.
This will give you new tools, e.g.:
- Add nodes at intersections
- Split object
This will automate some, but not all of the neccesary steps.
Georg
there is no connection in
reality.
Missing or loosing the bridge tag I would always assume a ford there ...
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constructed work - which inside OSM seems to be the (defined) value
compacted.
So I would get rid of dirt, but keep 'earth' beside 'ground' as a useful
value (smooth walking on hiking trails) .
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standpipe:
I would understand 'standpipe' as the device you need to connect to
underground hydrants.
So I would not use standpipe for hydrant:source but 'riser' instead, may
be distuingish between dry_riser or wet_riser.
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/Fire_hydrant uses the term
'post- or pillar-type fire hydrant'
- but I do not know who wrote that.
At least there is a desire to distinguish between 'pillar' (or synonym)
vice 'underground' vice 'wall'.
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man_made=works for the whole area of a work/factory complex
of one operator (as one object).
landuse=industrial otherwise may be the whole industrial area with
several works (it is a use, not an object).
It does not collide with man_made=works and can exist parallel.
Georg
you are.
Or the tax free amount of travel goods. :)
A more real world example, where hours vary, would be open sunrise to
sunset, which is often used for rural car parks.
Yes - that's why opening_hours already support this. ;-)
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, it was still in
usage for pubs in my lifetime.
I thought England (or maybe Great Britain) is still using this for pubs.
At least, as this seems to be a problem, that causes the Prime Minister
to intervene! ;-)
http://news.sky.com/story/1205719/world-cup-pub-opening-ban-overruled-by-pm
Georg
but with
different meaning.
The current syntax + does not diffentiate between until curfew and
beyond curfew.
But this seems to be a desirable differentiation.
Why not extend the syntax with such quite clear definition?
E.g.
+ means open end until curfew
-late means open end beyond curfew
Georg
and
geocoding), I kind of feel that this may be a health amenity similar
to amenity=doctors/clinic/hospital.
I won't see them as a health_facility and would put them under
emergency=lifeguard.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency_%28facilities%29
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.
But watch out for talking about what is legally allowed as it varies
widely by country!
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positives)
A note would have to be clear and machine-readable for this case.
It might be useful for renderers as on a map it might look as a
connection (because of oversize of rendered ways).
But this could be determined by preprocessing also.
Georg
but generic tag
(camera?) in my opinion.
Yes, this may result in parallel tagging - but we should not run in the
next cul-de-sac with one's eyes open.
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view angle, zoom or purpose it has.
Only: There is someone watching - but what and why?
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Am 14.11.2013 10:47, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
Am 14/nov/2013 um 10:40 schrieb Georg Feddern o...@bavarianmallet.de:
@Martin:
Your reply is only valid for the first line of the citation.
An approach which combines 2 tags in a way that the meaning is only true for
the combination of both
shall he ride then?
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combination.
There are only some singular situations where pushing bicycles as an
object is not allowed.
In this situations I am always puzzled, what I have to fear, if I would
carry the bicycle like a suitcase or parcel/packet ... none I suppose,
but I never was in such situation yet.
Georg
for a bicycle:dismount=no where bicycles
are even not allowed dismounted.
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, that on these driveways (or
serviceways?) you leave the legal cycleway/footway (with the regarding
legal rights above the otherwise crossing traffic) and have to obey the
crossing traffic for your own risk - even as walker, but also as cyclist.
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- on-site
- local
- retail
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Just my 2 cents.
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vary (50, 80, 100), as it
is a movable part from the fire brigade.
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the name only - in
fact it _is_ just a building with a big name sign then (case here with a
Burger King since around 2 years).
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duplication of
well, it's one acceptable perception to enter the data into a
'relational' database - opposite to the 'keep it simple on every way'
perception.
But why do you duplicate the tag waterway=river on every way then ...?
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I will add that in 3 (three!) different changesets?
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way) as long as no bridge relation is used.
So you are just not able to divide them in different OSM layers therefor
- at least not until you map different 'layer' for bridge and road
element then.
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- but each need there own special tags sometimes, may be even on
the same object.
I do not see that some(!) additional data on a border strip is really a
problem here.
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Am 11.09.2012 18:14, schrieb Martin Vonwald (Imagic):
Am 11.09.2012 um 16:10 schrieb Georg Feddern o...@bavarianmallet.de:
http://roads.osm4people.org/?zoom=7lat=49.60305lon=10.72137layers=B0TFF
Thanks! This covers surface, but smoothness isn't supported as far as I can see.
not yet
instead of fixme tag.
Personally, I don't support this view.
I would understand as:
Live with the (mapping) reality and use the (QA) possibilities it opens up.
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if there is no other possible route.
As long as there is no other easy way I would tag for routers in this
case.
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For highway=pedestrian, at platforms and many other things we allow to
add area=yes to a feature to turn a circular way (ring) to a circular
area (filled area, polygon).
If - and that's in fact more or less the result of the discussions we
had in the last days - the difference between mini
this method - but would allow the mini-roundabout-tag on
areas for compatibility reasons - may the latter rest upon 'already
mapped' or 'stubborn resistance'. ;-)
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restriction.
I think I understand your point here - but the simple node still has a
oneway restriction too.
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Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com hat am 29. April 2012 um 17:39
geschrieben:
2012/4/29 Kytömaa Lauri lauri.kyto...@aalto.fi:
http://i46.tinypic.com/2cfqivn.png
Which value would people use for the lanes=*?
I think I wouldn't tag any lanes explicitly here. Looks like a
, webcam?
contact: is a mere categorisation than distinction - and so it is just
stuffing for me.
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one major difference between 1.5 and=2.5, ie.,
whether the traffic in one direction almost always interferes with the
opposite direction of the traffic, in the latter case it shouldn't happen
So you mean 1.5 is the same as 1 regarding the almost always
interfere? ;-)
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in the mood too
is ambiguous here.
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consider to describe just the block area - just the perimeter -
to name it, I think place=locality on a closed polygon would be sufficient.
Only if you need to describe the block as an entity - as an
'administrative object' or something like that - you need a special
place= block value.
Georg
Am 25.04.2012 12:29, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
-1, place=locality shouldn't be used here, because according to the
wiki it is not to be used for settlements or parts of them
Objection granted!
I abandon this question, Your Honour! ;-)
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Am 20.04.2012 10:46, schrieb Nathan Edgars II:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservices says that it
(usually) has fuel and food, but it links to Wikipedia:rest area.
Should the Wikipedia link be removed (and added to
cars stop and then you cross.
Yes - I see, you have _seen_ the point already. ;-)
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A router that does consider sidewalks, will _prefer_ sidewalks and use
roads otherwise.
A router that does not consider sidewalks will use the roads anyway.
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would not be 'rectangle'.
(U-turns at dual-carriage ways with two 90° turns because of a via-way
have to be considered separately.
If not allowed - even only by law - a turn restriction may be helpful
there.)
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Am 12. April 2012 08:44 schrieb Georg Fedderno...@bavarianmallet.de:
A router that does not consider sidewalks will use the roads anyway.
No, a router that doesn't consider sidewalks would with the currently
suggested tagging use the sidewalk
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