Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-25 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-25 15:29, Marc Gemis wrote : > > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 3:08 PM, André Pirard > mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I already replied that I wonder what's the idea behind that > enforcement. Why wouldn't Wikidata be used "al

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-06-08 13:29, Richard wrote : Hi, quite often there are node-type objects on bridges or in tunnels. What to do with them? Tunnel or bridge tags are dfined only for ways. In my mind: bridges are piece of concrete below the roads (tarmac) and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Blood donation 2

2015-06-20 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-06-20 14:46, Ruben Maes wrote : > After the proposal Donation was rejected, I tried to address the > issues that were raised in a new proposal using > healthcare=blood_donation: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Blood_donation_2 > > You are of course welcome to point

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - wedding_reception

2015-06-24 Thread André Pirard
Hi, For what Marc describes, I've been recommended this (it's in Belgium). building yes amenity events_venue

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Blood donation 2

2015-06-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-06-22 23:20, Holger Jeromin wrote : Ruben Maes Wrote in message: > After the proposal Donation was rejected, I tried to address the > issues that were raised in a new proposal using > healthcare=blood_donation: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Blood_donation_2 >

Re: [Tagging] healthcare: attribute or stand alone tag? (was Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - Blood donation 2)

2015-06-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-06-29 18:55, Holger Jeromin wrote : > André Pirard wrote on 29.06.2015 17:08: >> Ruben Maes Wrote in message: >>> After the proposal Donation was rejected, I tried to address the >>> issues that were raised in a new proposal using >>>

[Tagging] Tags of a node representing an area (polygon or relation)

2015-07-01 Thread André Pirard
Hi, An OSM element is normally made of one "physical" object tag and a number of tags describing the attributes of that object or of the other attributes (such as (fictitious example) building:tower:antenna:gsm=yes). This applies to areas and nodes. Some people prefer to tag the attributes to a no

Re: [Tagging] To tag "opening_hours=by appointment"

2015-07-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-06-30 14:04, Marc Gemis wrote : > Everything between quotes is considered a comment, and can contain > values in the local language (e.g 123 "nach␣Vereinbarung" > > -- > German for by appointment) > IMHO this

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-07-08 01:54, Warin wrote : Hi Voting for this 'property' is now open. Wedding Reception Definition: A place where a social event is held after the completion of a wedding ceremony. Note that it is a 'prope

[Tagging] Rue réservée aux jeux - play street

2015-08-12 Thread André Pirard
Hi, What are the tags for this? Article 22septies. Circulation dans les rues réservées au jeu (en

Re: [Tagging] Blood donation: mobile collections, 'attribute' status

2015-08-14 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-08-14 13:50, Ruben Maes wrote : > On 14 August 2015, Papou wrote on the wiki[1]: > >> There were discussions related to this in other Tagging@ threads without >> follow-up before the vote. >> My disregarded remarks were: >> * to introduce the tag precisely as: >>healthcare=blood_donati

Re: [Tagging] Contact:* prefix

2015-08-21 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-08-04 14:57, Dave F. wrote : > Hi > > wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:contact > > I remember a discussion a while back about this. As the page makes no > mention of the logic behind, could someone please remind me of the > reasoning & advantage over straight forward phone, fax,

Re: [Tagging] opening-hours off closed

2015-08-22 Thread André Pirard
On 2013-11-28 16:15, André Pirard wrote : > I had to tag the simplest thing there is: a parking lot closed a few > hours on Fridays (during market time). > On wiki.osm.org/wiki/Opening_hours > <http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Opening_hours>, I found explanations by, > rather than a

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt (history (authors of changesets))

2015-09-01 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-08-31 20:12, � wrote : > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:55:27 +0200 >> moltonel 3x Combo wrote: >> >>> On 31/08/2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Is there some method to automate finding who introduced tags? Doing it manually would not be

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt (history (authors of changesets))

2015-09-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-09-02 08:34, Mateusz Konieczny wrote : On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 23:55:14 +0200 "André Pirard" wrote: On 2015-08-31 20:12, � wrote : On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Mon, 3

Re: [Tagging] Handle with care (was: Accuracy of survey)

2015-09-09 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-12-29 15:27, Kotya Karapetyan wrote : Happy holidays and 2015 everyone! > what is needed here is some tag, saying "don't touch these > coordinates, they've been surveyed with high(est) accuracy

Re: [Tagging] Handle with care (was: Accuracy of survey)

2015-09-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-09-09 23:39, moltonel wrote : On 9 September 2015 21:46:54 GMT+01:00, "André Pirard" wrote: There are various reasons for warning other mappers to be careful about their updates. I once temporarily overlaid two walking routes t

Re: [Tagging] Cycle cafes ... and Repair Cafés

2015-09-14 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-09-14 21:41, Richard Fairhurst wrote : > How would you tag a "cycle café"? And, while we are at it, a "Repair Café ". Also, usually www.repaircafe.CC. Those I've seen use amenity=cafe, which many are not, using other premises. It's one case again in which I sugges

Re: [Tagging] Semi-detached houses: undocumented iD preset

2015-09-17 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-09-17 16:29, Ruben Maes wrote : > Hi all Yesterday iD got a new preset: building=semidetached_house. > https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2776 I don't see *at all* why such a tag would be needed as it's perfectly obvious from the topology that the building is semidetached and as it

Re: [Tagging] Handle with care

2015-09-17 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-09-17 18:02, Kotya Karapetyan wrote : > Hi André, > > I don't know why your text was removed. > > > It would produce a message saying something like: > > "The coordinates you are trying to change are accurate to 25 cm. > > You probably shouldn't change this tag, certainly not with GPS

Re: [Tagging] Semi-detached houses: undocumented iD preset

2015-09-18 Thread André Pirard
Am 17.09.2015 um 16:29 schrieb Ruben Maes : building:type=semidetached_house, unlike what I wrote before, the correct tags seem to be, if one wants to tag what is already in geometry: building=house building:type=semidetached

Re: [Tagging] Handle with care

2015-09-26 Thread André Pirard
uot; but when the user clicks for changing (normally) one element. Cheers André. > > Kind regards, > Kotya > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:53 AM, André Pirard > mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 2015-09-17 18:02, Kotya Karapety

Re: [Tagging] Handle with care

2015-09-26 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-09-26 22:43, moltonel wrote : > > On 26 September 2015 19:05:09 GMT+01:00, "André Pirard" > wrote: >> It is >> :warning= >> which acts only when that key is changed. >> geometry:warning= to protect the coordinates of the element >> nam

Re: [Tagging] how to tag a salt flat

2015-09-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-09-29 17:29, joost schouppe wrote : Hi, I haven't found much about the subject. A salt flat is a large deposit of salt. They are usually where a river ends in the middle of a desert. Or where a valley i

Re: [Tagging] Parcel box tagging

2015-10-06 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-10-07 00:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : > sent from a phone You are excused ;-) >> Am 06.10.2015 um 23:31 schrieb Daniel Koć : >> >> In my opinion having popular amenity type only for one country > it's not about the country, it's about the system I guess. Some time ago I > spotted a DHL

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

2015-10-14 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-10-11 08:25, Mateusz Konieczny wrote : > Castle as in "a type of fortified structure built in Europe and the > Middle East during the Middle Ages by nobility". > > Unfortunately obvious historic=castle fails - as it is defined and > used as "(often fortified) buildings from medieval and mod

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-10-15 09:27, Volker Schmidt wrote : > Another famous example: Hearst Castle [1] > > I think the "historic" key is correct. > > This is what Google proposes as definition and synonyms: > > > adjective: historic > > 1. > famous or important in history, or potentially so. > "we are standin

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

2015-10-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-10-15 09:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : > > sent from a phone > >> Am 14.10.2015 um 23:49 schrieb André Pirard : >> >> Under the thread "château" I pointed out that there are buildings that can >> be called château ≃ castle and that are no

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert and splitting

2015-10-26 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-10-25 07:44, GerdP wrote : Hi all, up to now I've used tunnel=culvert http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tunnel=culvert like this: 1) JOSM warns that a waterway and highway are crossing 2) I split the waterway into 3 parts and add tunnel=yes, layer=-1 to th

Re: [Tagging] when should highway=centreline be used?

2015-10-27 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-10-27 08:50, Gerd Petermann wrote : > > Hi all, > > > we have 153 ways tagged > > highway=centre_line > > > The wiki describes that as the white stripes in the middle of a road. > > I looked at some ways tagged like that and they all seem to > > be barriers between large roads (motorway,tru

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-10-29 16:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : > > 2015-10-29 13:40 GMT+01:00 Richard >: > > On the other end of the complexitiy scale it would be nice to have > a simple method to map insignificant culverts with a single node. > > > > IMHO, if you don't consi

Re: [Tagging] More human readable values for traffic signs

2015-10-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-10-29 21:00, John Eldredge wrote : > > I think he is referring to the "do not enter" sign, a red circle with > a horizontal white bar. > Jo sometimes speaks vaguely and publishes search/guessing exercises ;-) . What he means is: > Also keep in mind there are 2 'oneway' signs. A blue one th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Motorway link no default oneway

2015-10-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-10-29 20:45, Joachim wrote : > I invite you to vote on the proposal "Motorway link no default > oneway". The following is proposed: > > Strongly recommend explicit tagging of oneway=* on highway=motorway_link. > > Define that highway=motorway_link without tagged oneway=* has no > implied on

Re: [Tagging] "What can I ask ..." list for browsing people

2015-11-02 Thread André Pirard
sure that this is information helping the owner/runner/... of some feature, let us say a shop, to tell a mapper which available tags he would like to see, like I explained? It seems that there is no such information and that doesn't help the public composing Notes to improve t

Re: [Tagging] Tagging dangerous intersections

2015-11-10 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-10 10:24, Kieron Thwaites wrote : > Hi, > > I recently passed through an intersection in a particularly dodgy part > of town that actually had warning signs up, warning motorists that > said intersection is a hotspot for "smash and grab" robberies. (If > anyone is interested, it's on Go

Re: [Tagging] "What can I ask ..." list for browsing people

2015-11-12 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-03 05:38, Marc Gemis wrote : > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:26 PM, André Pirard <mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>> What can I show to Mr X? >>> >> This is extremely off topic btw. > *you* are perfectly off topic.

[Tagging] Does Google lack data?

2015-11-12 Thread André Pirard
Hi, I've been surprised when Searching Google for Щорса Кричев to find the result Остановка - Щорса - Кричев - WikiRoutes.info which is a map containing t

[Tagging] Friendliness with attacked mapped places in Paris

2015-11-14 Thread André Pirard
Hi, OpenstreetMap often extends friendliness by humanitarian tagging. In this case of desolation, there is little to tag. Little... Wikipedia have been extremely fast in all languages !!! After some mourning period, the note below may be

Re: [Tagging] Friendliness with attacked mapped places in Paris

2015-11-14 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-14 19:35, Frederik Ramm wrote : > André, > >OSM is not a place for condolences in note tags. > > I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but sticking to facts is what keeps most > conflicts out of OSM - if something is observable on the ground, we map > it, and if not, we (mostly) don't. > >

Re: [Tagging] improve tagging of traffic_calming

2015-11-20 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-20 17:10, Rafael Avila Coya wrote : > Hi: > > What happens when a traffic calming is a crossing for pedestrians at the > same time? I have some examples in this avenue of my home town where I > live: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1080908514 > > I find it is more important to mark it

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-25 09:00, Dave Swarthout wrote : Can someone provide the correct way to tag a wikipedia link? It seems the Wiki wants it one way and JOSM another. The wiki wants version 1) but JOSM reports an error when coded that way. WTF?

Re: [Tagging] boundary relations and the subarea property

2015-11-26 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-26 20:08, Marcos Oliveira wrote : It's an handy and intuitive way of organizing boundaries in a neat hierarchy visible from the database itself. It is even mandatory when you have to make nested boundaries that have no admin_level lik

Re: [Tagging] boundary relations and the subarea property

2015-11-26 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-26 20:24, Colin Smale wrote : > I use the subarea member because it makes cross-checking easy. Have > all the lower-level boundaries in my higher-level admin area been > added to OSM? > > Unfortunately the various admin levels do not always form a strict > hierarchy. A small area at (let

Re: [Tagging] boundary relations and the subarea property

2015-11-27 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-27 10:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : > > 2015-11-26 21:12 GMT+01:00 André Pirard <mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>>: > > It is even mandatory when you have to make nested boundaries that > have no admin_level like the two boundary systems we have in

Re: [Tagging] boundary relations and the subarea property

2015-11-27 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-27 10:04, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : > > 2015-11-26 20:24 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale >: > > I use the subarea member because it makes cross-checking easy. > Have all the lower-level boundaries in my higher-level admin area > been added to OSM? > > >

Re: [Tagging] boundary relations and the subarea property

2015-11-27 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-27 13:13, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : > > 2015-11-27 12:02 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale >: > > One concrete use case is "return the boundary relations for the > constituent parts of a given boundary relation", for example "all > the district councils i

Re: [Tagging] boundary relations and the subarea property

2015-11-27 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-27 22:16, Georg Feddern wrote : > Am 27.11.2015 um 15:46 schrieb André Pirard: >> Have you noticed that some borderlines are *hexaplicated* (that they >> appear in 6 different relations) and that *that* is unhealthy >> redundancy that is made unnecessary by sub

Re: [Tagging] Rue réservée aux jeux - play street

2016-04-23 Thread André Pirard
rney ½h sooner or later? Or are time conditional restrictions a loss of mapping time? (1) that for example shows paths where pedestrians can go but not road crossings where they must go Cheers André. > It's a bit like roadworks that don't go on for months. > > Polyglot > >

Re: [Tagging] Which access tag for school buses?

2016-04-28 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-04-26 12:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 26 apr 2016, alle ore 11:51, Volker Schmidt ha scritto: My tagging would be

Re: [Tagging] OSM in French and Dutch [or any monolingual]

2016-08-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-08-09 11:37, joost schouppe wrote: > Hi, > > Someone asked on Twitter about a rendering of OSM in Dutch and French > to avoid the clutter of bilingual names in the standard rendering. > > https://twitter.com/iciBrussels/status/762743820358418432 > > The French render is easy, OSM France pro

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] OSM in French and Dutch [or any monolingual]

2016-08-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-08-11 23:59, Ruben Maes wrote: > On donderdag 11 augustus 2016 18:26 André Pirard wrote: >> (...) >> OSM.org displays the names according to the Language preference of the >> browser (1). >> Precisely, it displays a name in the first language of that preference

Re: [Tagging] Multiple values for one key - the cuisine problem.

2016-08-24 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-08-24 22:06, Marc Zoutendijk wrote: > How to tag multiple values for a key? The cuisine problem. > > Whenever we tag a restaurant, we also have the option of tagging the > kind/style of food that is offered: > > amenity=restaurant > cuisine=french > ... BTW, the correct English spelling is

Re: [Tagging] bus route with reversing

2016-09-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-09-02 11:43, Michael Tsang wrote: > Hi all, > > I am mapping bus routes in my city. There is a route where the buses need > reversing in order to enter the bus terminus. Is there a "standard" role in > the route relation which denotes that the bus is to reverse through that > segment of

Re: [Tagging] bus route with reversing

2016-09-02 Thread André Pirard
t JOSM won't be happy about it. Cheers André. > > Polyglot > > 2016-09-02 14:13 GMT+02:00 André Pirard <mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>>: > > On 2016-09-02 11:43, Michael Tsang wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am mapping bus routes in my cit

Re: [Tagging] bus route with reversing

2016-09-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-09-02 22:20, Svavar Kjarrval wrote: > On fös 2.sep 2016 14:07, André Pirard wrote: >> On 2016-09-02 15:19, Jo wrote: >>> The way I understand this, no explicit tagging is needed. You could have >>> >>> aBBc >>> >>> Where c is the s

[Tagging] using Michelin's road classification (was: Routing in Liège)

2016-09-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-09-13 18:21, Marc Gemis wrote: > Hallo, > > I was contacted by a mapper from Germany with whom I worked on turn:lanes. > He has to following question, can someone with local knowledge inform > us about the road classifications ? I have the impression a lot of > streets are indeed residentia

[Tagging] Michelin info

2016-09-15 Thread André Pirard
*Reply* to this message *privately* to receive info about how to easily compare OSM with the Via Michelin map using JOSM. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] using Michelin's road classification (was: Routing in Liège)

2016-09-16 Thread André Pirard
ggest source:highway=https://viamichelin.be/web/Cartes-plans 2016 2016. Kéne afêre à Lîdje and I hope that this work will be useful elsewhere too, Cheers André. (1) As white would not fit for residential, I used grey. I'm surprised indeed that no unclassified roads turn up in blue but tha

Re: [Tagging] Routing in Liège (consulting Michelin)

2016-09-20 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-09-17 20:46, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > André Pirard wrote: >> Last point is what source:???=Michelin ??? to use to prevent a >> StijnRR or like arbitrarily destructing well thought out tagging >> without notifying the author. I suggest >> source:highway=https:

Re: [Tagging] mapping default values? (was: Maximum snelheid in Vlaanderen, maxspeed in Flanders)

2016-10-04 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-09-27 11:43, Marc Gemis wrote: > Hallo, > > op 1/1/2017 daalt de snelheid op Vlaamse gewestwegen van 90 naar 70. > Normaal gezien zullen we die wegen (zonder expliciete borden) dan > moeten taggen met > > maxspeed=70 > source:maxspeed=??:rural > > maar wat komt er op de plaats van de vraagt

Re: [Tagging] mapping default values?

2016-10-05 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-10-05 11:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2016-10-05 3:35 GMT+02:00 André Pirard <mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>>: > > On 2016-09-27 11:43, Marc Gemis wrote: >> Hallo, >> >> op 1/1/2017 daalt de snelheid op Vlaamse gewestwegen van 9

Re: [Tagging] Proper way to tag highways located in "dangerous" areas

2016-11-16 Thread André Pirard
2016-11-16 2:04 GMT+01:00 Nelson A. de Oliveira : Since they can't find another tag to indicate those "dangerous" places, they argue that access=destination is valid for this case

Re: [Tagging] Proper way to tag highways located in "dangerous" areas

2016-11-16 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-11-16 14:08, André Pirard wrote: 2016-11-16 2:04 GMT+01:00 Nelson A. de Oliveira <nao...@gmail.com>: Since they can't find another tag to ind

Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction

2016-12-07 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-12-07 22:53, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hey all, > > Apparently there are roads that have an 'ongoing' U-turn restriction, > see the sign here for example: http://openstreetcam.org/details/10053/304 > > I know how to tag this for an intersection but not how to do it for an > entire way whe

Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction, plus side turns

2016-12-08 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-12-08 09:36, Volker Schmidt wrote: > On 2016-12-08 03:09, André Pirard wrote: >> On 2016-12-07 22:53, Martijn van Exel wrote: >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Apparently there are roads that have an 'ongoing' U-turn >>> restriction, see the sign

[Tagging] Missing oneway:bicycle=no

2017-02-14 Thread André Pirard
I once read that routes of cyclists using OSM were laughed at by the others... oneway=yes is a routing tag (used by GSM) indicating that only one way of the highway can be used. That page says that the exception for bicycles to run contraflow is oneway:bicycl

Re: [Tagging] address property of features

2017-03-18 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-03-18 14:16, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > if there's a whole building or area with one housenumber you can put > the feature inside and it can inherit the address from the area, There are two ways to tag multiple features (or a single one) of the same building: * name space tags, but it'

Re: [Tagging] historic=tank and surprises with tags like car-sharing

2017-04-16 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-04-16 00:20, Michal Fabík wrote: > Hi, > I just mapped my third tank in about a month and I'm still wondering why it > isn't documented in the Wiki alongside historic=aircraft, historic=locomotive > etc. There's quite a few of them mapped already, according to Taginfo. One > could argue

Re: [Tagging] Language information for name=* (and defaults)

2017-04-23 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-04-23 17:18, Lukas Sommer wrote: > Hello. > > There are many applications that use the name=* tag in OSM. You will > usually use the name=* tag when you intentionally want to use the name > in the default language. (Example: OSMand lets you optionally choose > between “local names” or a spe

Re: [Tagging] Tagging detail on Rest Areas

2017-04-26 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-04-27 00:48, Warin wrote: > Hi, > I have come up with some detail tagging for rest areas but want to get > some oversight on it and help with one aspect. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Drest_area > Easy(?) Details > Some of these have time limits - easy enough to use a c

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Language information for name

2017-05-05 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-05-05 13:51, Lukas Sommer wrote: > Feature Proposal - RFC - Language information for name > > URL: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information_for_name > > Definition: Describes the language in which the value name=* is (using > the same code as Multilingua

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] Missing oneway:bicycle=no

2017-05-10 Thread André Pirard
Hi, In this thread, I said, in agreement with others, that oneway:bicycle =no (click to open that page) is the tag to be used *to tell routing software**(GPS)* that *oneway*=yes does not apply t

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] Missing oneway:bicycle=no / Wiki editing

2017-05-11 Thread André Pirard
> * For those who don't know the concept of sarcasm : > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm > > ** Certainly this will also leave some (border) cases which are > disputable, > but at least there would be SOME agreed guideline. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct >

Re: [Tagging] Toll road sections

2017-08-28 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-08-28 18:42, marc marc wrote: > Please avoid creating a new key like toll_ref > All references refer to something, but we don't create road_ref, > shop_ref, hydrant_ref, building_ref, we just use "ref" key > sometimes with a subname HU for the country (in capital) > sometimes with another

[Tagging] RFC: Defaults are paramount, abandoning Proposed_features/ is a HUGE mistake

2017-08-31 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Examples: either each road is tagged with *maxspeed*=* speed limit and *driving_side*=* or there are defaults. I'm reviving this remark because the examples are numerous: * The Belgian

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Language information)

2017-09-05 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-08-30 13:34, Lukas Sommer wrote: > Voting at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information > is open. Hi Lukas, The syntax is wrong. It must be :language= (qualifier to the right). Example too language:name=bg --> name:language=bg Many wiki definitions a

Re: [Tagging] phone validity - phone "preset"

2017-09-05 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-09-05 21:01, Lukas Sommer wrote: > It would likely yet help a lot if th editors would simply check if > > - the number does not start with “+” > - the number (after the starting “+” sign) contains other characters > then digits, spaces (and maybe dashes). > > This is quite simple and could

Re: [Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

2017-09-18 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Wouldn't it be appropriate for this kind of discussion to ask routing/GPS programmers like OSMand and Graphhopper etc. what they use for route optimization and what else they would like to use, hence us to do. I always say that the biggest routing problem (some people openly LOL at OSM routing

Re: [Tagging] Public wifi (Fon)

2017-09-28 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-09-29 02:22, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi > > Noticed in the discussion of the devices tag, mention of devices > attached to telephone booths, which got me thinking. > > Here in Australia, Telstra provides public wifi access via it's > Telstra Air network (https://www.telstra.com.au/telst

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Sinkholes refinement

2017-11-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-11-14 19:34, David Marchal wrote: > Hi, Yuri. > > Though I understand your request and find it relevant, I’m unsure > about altering a proposal page after the vote had started; AFAIK, I’m > supposed to let it as is, apart from the vote section. Could you show > me if my assumption is wrong,

Re: [Tagging] name with name:en

2017-11-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-11-15 21:34, Warin wrote: > Hi, > > There looks to be a duplication taking place (map.me problem ?) where > both the name=* tag and name:en (the local language)=* are being > entered as the same value. There is nothing saying what language name=* is, what the failed language=* proposal inte

[Tagging] how to map a fr:talus?

2017-11-23 Thread André Pirard
Hi, I'm looking for how to map what is called in French a talus (Google's translation). I would call this a 1.8m simple step running for some reason for several 100s meters across meadows. Steep slope. There are "top of slope" and "bottom of slope" lines. Res

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] how to map a fr:talus?

2017-11-23 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-11-23 17:26, joost schouppe wrote: > 2017-11-23 16:48 GMT+01:00 André Pirard <mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>>: > > Hi, > > I'm looking for how to map what is called in French a talus > <http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/talus> (Google

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] how to map a fr:talus?

2017-11-24 Thread André Pirard
unless you change your mind, I'll tag it man made=embankment <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dembankment>, according to your repeated consent, but only as a single way at the top of the slope I suppose. But I'll name it an old canal's bank. Thanks to all,

Re: [Tagging] building=maisonette(s)

2017-12-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-12-02 19:58, marc marc wrote: Hello, https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=maisonette https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=maisonettes Nearly all in England. In french, a "maisonette" is a small detached house or a tiny house or a shed. Did

Re: [Tagging] building=maisonette(s)

2017-12-02 Thread André Pirard
r a tiny >> house or a >> shed. >> Did this word also exist in english >> > > English has stolen many words from other languages. This may well be > one of them. > My dictionary says "maisonette"; 1) small house 2) semi-detached house >

Re: [Tagging] area=yes on object without kind + using PICC & JOSM

2018-01-12 Thread André Pirard
On 2018-01-12 14:52, Jo wrote: > You are right in that we shouldn't base any of our mapping on what is > visible on Google Streetview. Which is why I was suggesting that > somebody go check it out locally. I've been looking at Belgian aerial > imagery we are allowed to use, taken over several years

Re: [Tagging] access=yes|permissive allow all transport modes

2018-01-14 Thread André Pirard
On 2018-01-14 17:41, OSMDoudou wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Osmose is giving an error at many places around the R50 trunk with > reason "access=yes|permissive allow all transport modes" and > additional info "Including ski, horse, moped, hazmat and so on, unless > explicitly excluded". For example,

Re: [Tagging] access=yes|permissive allow all transport modes

2018-01-14 Thread André Pirard
On 2018-01-14 22:28, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 21:17:12 +0100 > André Pirard wrote: > >> access=no motor_vehicle=yes make much sense if that's the >> intention > This seems a poor idea, it will break everything that is not parsing > motor_

Re: [Tagging] RFC: Names localization

2012-08-02 Thread André Pirard
Option 1 best because of compatibility but also this. It's very difficult to have the renderer synthesize some names. In Belgium, the law states that the name *must* be displayed in all the official languages of the place. For Brussels' streets, if there are two spellings, the names are displaye

Re: [Tagging] Shark tagging

2012-08-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2012-08-02 15:32,  Martin Vonwald wrote : 2012/8/2 Serge Wroclawski : I took this photo of a building across the street. How do you propose I tag it? http://www.emacsen.net/shark-bldg.jpg I would suggest shark=great_white or simply shark=y

Re: [Tagging] Shark tagging

2012-08-02 Thread André Pirard
2012/8/2 Serge Wroclawski : I took this photo of a building across the street. How do you propose I tag it? http://www.emacsen.net/shark-bldg.jpg Tagging, tagging?  Like this, maybe? ;-) _

Re: [Tagging] Bench as way. Was : Tagging amenity=waste_basket

2012-08-05 Thread André Pirard
On 2012-08-05 11:49,  Vincent Pottier wrote : But in my dictionnay, for the French "dossier", I find "back". No backrest. GoogleMaps, despite starting to be funny as soon as you put two words side by side, is often very interesting for a single one:

Re: [Tagging] Advice & clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-07 Thread André Pirard
On 2012-08-07 23:56,  Dave F. wrote : Hi A user in GB has been editing railway lines by adding tracks=4 even though each individual track has been mapped: www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/174899570 From the rai

Re: [Tagging] Advice & clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-08 Thread André Pirard
On 2012-08-08 18:46,  Dave F. wrote : The discussion has gone off on a tangent (as it always seems to do :) ). Back to the original point - Are we agreed that tracks=4 on each individual way to indicate the total number of tracks running side by side is wrong

[Tagging] Potale

2012-08-25 Thread André Pirard
What is the tag for this? Mine is more or less like Hanzinne's in size but wide open with a huge cross inside. 3 m high. If it wasn't just a façade, a front, it would almost be a chapel, but it's not.

Re: [Tagging] Potale

2012-08-27 Thread André Pirard
On 2012-08-26 11:41,  Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : 2012/8/26 Michael Krämer : How about historic=wayside_shrine? Unfortunately my French is rather limited so I basically could only look at the pictures in the Wikipedia. But this looked quite a bi

Re: [Tagging] Potale

2012-08-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2012-08-28 13:16, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : 2012/8/28 André Pirard: I finally made it amenity: place_of_worship historic: wayside_shrine name: potale du Christ religion: christian which is exactly what it is, except that St Mary is actually worshiped there. -1 it is not what it is IMHO

Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-03 Thread André Pirard
On 2012-09-03 21:05,  Colin Smale wrote : Should the name=* for a river include the word "River"? Is it "name=Thames" or "name=River Thames"? According to the wiki [1] we should only use "Thames" in this case. If we consider "River Thames" to be

Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-05 Thread André Pirard
On 2012-09-05 17:17, Simone Saviolo wrote : [...] To complicate things even further, there are some rivers ("fiume" in Italian, which is masculine) that are commonly referred to as feminine: la Marcova, la Bormida, la Dora Riparia, la Dora Baltea, la Drava, la Senna; and it's still debated whe

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