Re: [Tagging] How do I amend the wiki Was[add leisure=swimming_pool to the core-features]

2010-10-12 Thread Peter
://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Groeten, Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Editing road layouts that have bus routes

2010-12-15 Thread Peter
Try this one: http://openbusmap.org/ Dunno how old it's data is, looks like a week old or something. 2010/12/15 Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org: The other day I tidied up a road junction near where I live in Bristol, moving nodes and deleting a way with the aid of Bing imagery. I found it more

Re: [Tagging] Mapnik Software

2010-12-15 Thread Peter
Yup. Work is being done on Mapnik2. Read about it on http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/Mapnik2 2010/12/15 Robert Elsenaar rob...@elsenaar.info: Hi, We all know there lot of our maps are rendered with Mapnik. Does somebody knows if there is development going on on this software. Dows thsi software

Re: [Tagging] Editing road layouts that have bus routes

2010-12-15 Thread Peter
Thanks! September is quite old... 2010/12/15 Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) te...@teddy.ch: On 12/15/2010 04:39 PM, Peter wrote: Try this one: http://openbusmap.org/ Dunno how old it's data is, looks like a week old or something. The data is from September. http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view

Re: [Tagging] RFC: Rendering locks in Mapnik/Osmarender

2010-12-21 Thread Peter
According to the Milestone date in 15 hours. http://trac.mapnik.org/milestone/Mapnik2 ...but I don't think so. There is no reliable release date. Peter 2010/12/21 Wyo otto.w...@orpatec.ch: Lennard wrote: On 20-12-2010 22:29, Wyo wrote: Hmm, no remarks at all. Now what shall i do next to get

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - shop=anime (was: shop=anime_stuff)

2010-12-23 Thread Peter
There is always the note and fixme tags... 2010/12/23 rob...@elsenaar.info: Citeren S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: Hi ergo, I researched Akihabara,Tokyo lasy sunday^_^ There are many anime shops and hard to categorize. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Anime01_video.jpg

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-05 Thread Peter
cycleway=track is used when there is a cycle path paralell to a road. But it is esentially the same as tagging the cycleway as a seperate way with highway=cycleway. See also: A track is a cycle path that is separated from cars (commonly referred to as a bike path, greenway, or Class 1 facility in

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - deaddrop

2011-01-06 Thread Peter
Use linux, do an ls -lhA /media/drivelabel copy the file you need, leave the rest untouched, unplug, done! But browser vulnerabilities? Those usually get patched within the day, right? 2011/1/6 j...@jfeldredge.com: Leaving USB thumb drives lying around, so that people will plug them into a

Re: [Tagging] What is rtc_rate?

2011-01-06 Thread Peter
Ride the City http://www.ridethecity.com/ Maybe there is some explanation there. 2011/1/6 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Robert Elsenaar rob...@elsenaar.info wrote: RTC is the abbriviation of Regional Transportation Commission. So the amout of money you

Re: [Tagging] Extremely long names for highways

2015-09-27 Thread Peter
Hi Dave, hi Warin, exactly my thoughts. See also again the comments on my diary: these names seem to be official ones. So I'll add OSM notes to let others fix this or should I move them directly to official name and leave name empty? (I've no local knowledge there :)) Kind Regards, Peter

Re: [Tagging] Extremely long names for highways

2015-09-27 Thread Peter
normally not go into the name tag or how to fix this properly, if at all. Regards, Peter ** * Tertiary Road «Москва — Малоярославец — Рославль до границы с Республикой Беларусь (на Бобруйск, Слуцк)» — Спас-Деменск — Ельня — Починок» — Бояды, Починок, Ленинское сельское поселение

Re: [Tagging] Extremely long names for highways

2015-09-27 Thread Peter
Hi Paul, hi John, On 27.09.2015 14:46, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 5:21 AM, Peter <graphhop...@gmx.de > <mailto:graphhop...@gmx.de>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > we've detecting more and more long names for highways, like I

[Tagging] Duration tag mistakes for ferry

2015-09-27 Thread Peter
, but that is probably just a different opinion. See the GraphHopper issue because of this wink https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/435 Regards, Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] Best practice regarding addr:housenumber and POIs

2009-10-15 Thread Peter Childs
could put together n nodes, connect a way between them, forming an area, and then tag the way. Allowing us to know how far along the street the restaurant stretches and if it maybe has a back door onto another street etc etc. (This is nice but not really necessary). Peter

Re: [Tagging] Are tunnels only below ground? (Was

2009-11-04 Thread Peter Childs
the tags might refer just as much to the ways passing over the tunnel as to those passing under it. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Are tunnels only below ground? (Was

2009-11-04 Thread Peter Childs
, railway or waterway These are quite common in the Uk. (Do I need to find a photo) Peter. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Are tunnels only below ground? (Was

2009-11-04 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/4 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org 2009/11/4 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com 2009/11/4 Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net We don't *have* to stick to dictionary definitions here when tagging, as long as the meaning is clear; exactly, this is not generally about dictionary

Re: [Tagging] How to tag un-named roundabout?

2009-11-21 Thread Peter Childs
of towns are getting the round abouts sponsored for advertising. So if its labled with loads of adverts don't go and label it the with the adverts, They have this amazing habit of changing. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-newbies] Community Centres

2009-11-22 Thread Peter Childs
, Community Centres, Church Halls, Sports Club Halls, etc etc. maybe rentable=yes and maybe even club=scouts;church;toddlers;etc. to list the multiple uses of the premisies at different times. Just an idea. Peter. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposed definition for cycleways (was Re: bicycle=no)

2010-01-05 Thread Peter Childs
judgement then fine. I'm sure the list is more than happy to arbitrate should it turn into a tagging war. But at the end of the day its a Judgement call what ever the rules for the judgement are based on. Peter. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

[Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-24 Thread Peter Körner
and I will also create a JOSM preset for that new key. I'd just wanted to ask here if this would be ok for you, too. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-24 Thread Peter Körner
=repair. but service=* is yet another proposal.. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-24 Thread Peter Körner
them seperated. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-24 Thread Peter Körner
Am 24.08.2010 12:17, schrieb Liz: the butcher and baker are working with raw materials, producing something temporary and not required to have beauty in its form What, there is no beauty in my rump steak? I cant accept that, it's not true!!!1eleven11! ;) Just kidding. Peter

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-24 Thread Peter Körner
Am 24.08.2010 13:38, schrieb Elena of Valhalla: On 8/24/10, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Am 24.08.2010 12:17, schrieb Liz: the butcher and baker are working with raw materials, producing something temporary and not required to have beauty in its form What, there is no beauty

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-24 Thread Peter Körner
Am 24.08.2010 14:37, schrieb Élisée Reclus: Am 24.08.2010 14:28, schrieb Simone Saviolo: 2010/8/24 Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de: I'd like Élisée Reclus proposal better: if it sells something to end customers is a shop and not a craft. A sculptor (and an art gallery, often) ultimately

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-24 Thread Peter Körner
Am 24.08.2010 15:07, schrieb Pieren: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de mailto:osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Why does the list of proposed values for craft= then contain butcher and bakery? Remove the obvious shop entries like bakery and butcher I

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Craft

2010-08-24 Thread Peter Körner
or on the Discussion Page.. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Körner
Am 25.08.2010 01:12, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: 2010/8/24 Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de: - Is heating_engineer really different from hvac? heating_engineer is not a craft but an engineer. The craft is hvac or plumper. A company that installs AC is not necessary equipped

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Körner
Am 25.08.2010 01:14, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: 2010/8/24 Élisée Reclusfe-nospam-2009-03...@arcor.de: Am 24.08.2010 10:08, schrieb Peter Körner: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/DE:Key:craft Are artists

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Körner
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Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Körner
of a storefront location, dealing with walk-up customers, but without space for a table for customers to use. the will IMHO generally not be restaurants but fast_food. maybe with extra takeaway=yes and drivein=yes :) Peter ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Körner
this as fast-food - grab and take away - no matter what kind of food is sold. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Körner
wrong. If you can eat there it is a restaurant or a fast_food but not a craft. If this conclusion is right, then let's stop here and keep the discussion tight to the craft tag. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

[Tagging] sidewalks

2010-08-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. I'm new to this list, so at first let me introduce myself in a few words. I'm Peter and a student in computer science at the university of Paderborn, Germany. Currently I write my bachelor thesis about navigation for the blind based on OpenStreetmap data. In that context I try to figure

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks

2010-08-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi David. Thanks for your reply - I'll comment your (shortened) mail in between. On 26.08.2010 22:47, David ``Smith'' wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Makes sense to me. You might consider one minor modification, though: maybe we could

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks

2010-08-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Tobias. On 26.08.2010 23:52, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 26.08.2010 22:25, Peter Wendorff wrote: My approach would be - and I would like to get your opinions on that: - a sidewalk is tagged like every other footway highway=footway|path (foot=yes) (segregated=yes|no) footway

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks

2010-08-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
relations for making up whole streets, but it hasn't gained much use with house numbering - most use the tag addr:street - so I doubt it would happen with sidewalks, either. That's the reason for my idea not to use a relation, yes. regards Peter

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks

2010-08-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
support from the data - it's not a good option to ignore tagged crossings. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Semicolons? (was Re: RFC: generator:* (for power=generator features))

2010-08-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
On 27.08.2010 11:37, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Tom Chancet...@acrewoods.net wrote: I have been told two different things, now. Do we use semicolons or not? I have been contributing to OSM for five years and have never used semicolons, so I am inclined to go

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sauna

2010-08-27 Thread Peter Körner
Hi Kim, why exactly do you want to convert a widely used tag (amenity=sauna, ~1000 uses) to a very rarely used tag (leisure=sauna, ~13 uses). The Proposal does not tell why this change is required. Peter Am 27.08.2010 14:31, schrieb Kim Slotte: Hello, There is plans to replace amenity

Re: [Tagging] How do you map handicapped parking? (and other questions)

2010-08-29 Thread Peter Wendorff
On 29.08.2010 07:04, Nathan Edgars II wrote: There doesn't seem to be a tag on the wiki for either handicapped parking spots in a larger lot or a dedicated handicapped lot. use capacity:disabled=n for that. If these slots are at a specific place inside a bigger area, tag it additionally

Re: [Tagging] Waterway direction

2010-09-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
On 31.08.2010 20:58, David Earl wrote: Just to throw something else into this discussion... highway=steps It doesn't (or at least, isn't documented as) have direction, but _could_ have in the same way as rivers (direction of way is down the steps, say). To quote the wiki:

Re: [Tagging] Waterway direction

2010-09-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
, perhaps someone has to build one!? If you can see errors at mapnik, that's good - but don't change Mapnik to visualize more errors. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] sport=beachvolleyball?

2010-09-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. Could be invented by non-English speakers. In German it's Beachvolleyball as one word - other languages could be similar, don't know. regards Peter On 01.09.2010 07:18, Nathan Edgars II wrote: I'm wondering if there's a reason this is beachvolleyball rather than beach_volleyball. Most

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Craft

2010-09-01 Thread Peter Körner
Hi all friends of good tagging, The proposal is opened for one week now and I plan to put it to voting phase at Tu, 7.9.2010. If you have any comments or ideas or think that the proposal needs to be changed significantly, I'd like you to speak up during the next week. Peter Am 24.08.2010

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Craft

2010-09-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
ironic Is the place where the Mapnik server is housed craft=tiler in future? /ironic +1 for the proposal from me. Peter Wendorff On 01.09.2010 09:37, Peter Körner wrote: Hi all friends of good tagging, The proposal is opened for one week now and I plan to put it to voting phase at Tu

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power generator rationalisation

2010-09-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
brain), automatic deletions should be avoided from my POV. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Relation for saying x is attached to y?

2010-09-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
tagging in the database. The railway example is only one of more examples. If collapsing takes into account the number of collapsed tracks to consider it for the signature in the map - even better. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Homeless Shelter

2010-09-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. Should not building=homeless_shelter be correct - and thus more precise than the big collection amenity? Peter On 04.09.2010 03:24, Sean Horgan wrote: Dear mappers, I scoured the well-written wiki pages for a similar feature but couldn't find one so here is a proposal for a Homeless

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

2010-09-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
languages than English, it should use a dictionary for that at client side. regards Peter On 04.09.2010 18:12, Erik Johansson wrote: Hi I would like to tag areas with apartment buildings, and small houses for a single family differently, at the moment I tag all of them with landuse

Re: [Tagging] Relation for saying x is attached to y?

2010-09-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
On 05.09.2010 09:23, Steve Bennett wrote: On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: I'm sure, there has to be a way for renderers to collapse parallel ways to one - without explicit tagging in the database. The railway example is only one of more examples

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-06 Thread Peter Wendorff
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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Körner
Hi All, after two weeks without contradictions, I'll open up voting for the Craft proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Craft Thank you for your vote. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
probably show, that adding simply a tree by one user motivates other people to add more data. regards Peter On 07.09.2010 17:24, NopMap wrote: John F. Eldredge wrote: It seems reasonable to me that a node simply tagged as a tree, with no other information, could be single or not-single

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Körner
) and invite all to comment on the other two requested changes. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Körner
, there's no problem with adding both tags. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Körner
|framing|etc] If no one opts against this, I'll change the proposal accordingly. Does anyone think this would invalidate the given votes? Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Körner
there to actually do something. One side note One side note from me I'd ask for your understanding: It's so hard to follow all these wording issues if you're no native speaker. I really need your help to find the correct terminology. Peter

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Körner
applied those changes and added photographic_laboratory. I'm not happy that these questions did't came up during RFC stage but now during the voting stage. Does anybody think this is a problem for the validity of the votes? Peter ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-14 Thread Peter Körner
Am 07.09.2010 13:31, schrieb Peter Körner: after two weeks without contradictions, I'll open up voting for the Craft proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Craft The Voting has now been open for 1 week and so far we have 25 people approving the proposal. The voting

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] social facility

2010-09-14 Thread Peter Wendorff
less values is more easy to parse and search - there is no string slicing needed. But: I would not mix these together. Perhaps that's only my POV - feel free to argument against. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-20 Thread Peter Wendorff
for other features as well, and I think, tagged as a barrier node the relation would be clear enough - or are there any use cases for a barrier where rfid would relate to another entity than the barrier itself? same for keypad, rfid, biometric and magnetic_stripe. regards Peter

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-20 Thread Peter Wendorff
lowered. With that in mind, it's not tagging as area, it's tagging the way - although the way is closed. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Interpreting One feature, one OSM-object

2010-09-23 Thread Peter Wendorff
scheme to generally support grouping tags together while differentiating several groups on one geometry object. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Railway routes in different directions.

2010-09-23 Thread Peter Wendorff
of it's elements or vice versa. Per role you can define forward only or backward only for parts of the route. Compare http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Members for details. regards Peter On 23.09.2010 20:53, Dave F. wrote: Hi I've a railway routes that's drawn as a single

[Tagging] Tag craft is part of map-features

2010-09-23 Thread Peter Körner
Hi The new tag craft has been approved by 35 voters and so I moved on and pushed it to map-features: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Craft http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:craft http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft%3Dcarpenter Thank you for your votes. Peter

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Craft

2010-09-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
? regards Peter On 01.09.2010 09:37, Peter Körner wrote: Hi all friends of good tagging, The proposal is opened for one week now and I plan to put it to voting phase at Tu, 7.9.2010. If you have any comments or ideas or think that the proposal needs to be changed significantly, I'd like you

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Craft

2010-09-26 Thread Peter Körner
Am 26.09.2010 13:09, schrieb Elizabeth Dodd: On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:16:14 +0200 Peter Wendorffwendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: I would like to add this to craft, but I don't know a good english value for that. Printery Please remember to add it to the offiial Tag-Page [1

Re: [Tagging] inconsistencies in bridge

2010-09-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
On 28.09.2010 02:48, John Smith wrote: On 28 September 2010 10:38, Dave F.dave...@madasafish.com wrote: If historic data was kept within OSM it would become far to cluttered. Not if this data was filtered by default, and only shown if requested. The present method of showing everything is

Re: [Tagging] Successful proposal

2010-10-12 Thread Peter Körner
it there. There still should be one common channel to send important notifications to both discussion lists, but that should not be discussed on this list. Peter [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Jonobennett [2] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/craft

Re: [Tagging] Successful proposal

2010-10-13 Thread Peter Körner
problem of what should be on the map-features page. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Successful proposal

2010-10-13 Thread Peter Körner
Am 13.10.2010 13:54, schrieb NopMap: Considering the reversal of the crafts entry He did not reverse anything, the craft tag and all documentation is still there, its just not listed as a common used tag (because it's not common used right now). Peter

Re: [Tagging] Successful proposal

2010-10-13 Thread Peter Körner
. Yes I would approve that. Same with geological which is only used 120 times worldwide. Let's clean the map features list! Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Country names

2010-10-13 Thread Peter Budny
the inconsistency? Either way makes sense, but shouldn't we pick one and stick with it? -- Peter Budny \ Georgia Tech \ CS PhD student \ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-14 Thread Peter Körner
=country' AND NOT name IS NULL LIMIT 10; I could set up such a style on the toolserver if it would be helpful, but I'd like to point to the localized maps we currently have in 30 languages: http://toolserver.org/~osm/locale/ (use the layer switcher). Peter

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-14 Thread Peter Körner
. Peter [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/424313582 [2] http://toolserver.org/~mazder/multilingual-country-list/?lang=ko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-14 Thread Peter Wendorff
would say, we should search for a more sophisticated solution; and the best thing (while much work to do) would be to have language specific label layers. regards Peter On 14.10.2010 09:59, Peter Körner wrote: Am 14.10.2010 08:39, schrieb Jochen Topf: And one problem they have is that maps

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-14 Thread Peter Körner
not look nice because the name tag sometimes already contains brackets. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-14 Thread Peter Körner
AS local_name, CASE WHEN NOT name ~* (tags-'name:en') THEN name || ' (' || (tags-'name:en') ||')' ELSE name END AS display_name FROM planet_point WHERE tags @ 'place=country' AND NOT name IS NULL LIMIT 10; I'ts so simple. Peter

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-14 Thread Peter Wendorff
will get a better database with maps similar or equal to the maps we have now, but perhaps with the far view towards real multi-language rendering using e.g. different language layers. regards Peter On 14.10.2010 16:03, Peter Körner wrote: Am 14.10.2010 15:56, schrieb Richard Mann: You can also

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-14 Thread Peter Körner
Am 14.10.2010 16:42, schrieb Craig Wallace: On 14/10/2010 14:51, Peter Körner wrote: To render a German map there are two possibilities: 1. render name:de if it exists, name otherwise 2. render name if its identical to name:de, name (name:de) otherwise name does hereby refer to the local name

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-14 Thread Peter Budny
for a sign that says exactly that, without the router needing to know anything about what the local language is. -- Peter Budny \ Georgia Tech \ CS PhD student \ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-15 Thread Peter Körner
Am 15.10.2010 08:21, schrieb Stephen Hope: So the sign Rue Bouganville St would be name:en=Bouganville Street, name:fr=Rue Bouganville, but what would you put in name=? Exactly what's on the sign: Rue Bouganville St Peter ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] How can the US get its stuff together? (was Re: Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

2010-10-16 Thread Peter Budny
like a good road song. http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/roadsong.cfm For better or worse, that made me think of images like http://failblog.org/2008/07/03/sign-design-fail/ Whether it's a good thing or not, we still have to figure out how to tag it. Bear with us. -- Peter Budny

Re: [Tagging] shop=kiosk

2010-10-17 Thread Peter Wendorff
=kiosk. regards Peter On 17.10.2010 11:52, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: shops should be tagged with shop=shop category, which refers to the kind of stuff sold, also in cases like supermarket or convenience, which are less obvious then e.g. shop=electronics. shop=kiosk breaks this rule, as it doesn't

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-18 Thread Peter Körner
be a problem but if you get local people to do it, it is not a problem. It may get a problem in a BiDi Scenario but this is up to the UI of the editors and the renderers. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] shop=kiosk

2010-10-18 Thread Peter Wendorff
=kiosk is wrong here. Perhaps that's an additional tag we have to find. I'm not sure. But it should be considered also in this discussion here. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-20 Thread Peter Budny
different history and organization. -- Peter Budny \ Georgia Tech \ CS PhD student \ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-20 Thread Peter Budny
Andrew S. J. Sawyer assaw...@gmail.com writes: My thoughts are mixed in below. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:17, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote: Antony Pegg anttheli...@gmail.com writes: tagging admin area / populated centers / labels in USA seems to come down to two

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-20 Thread Peter Budny
Richard Weait rich...@weait.com writes: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote: [ ... ] I forgot to mention control cities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_city). These are cities that are designated for use on highway signs to indicate which direction

Re: [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-20 Thread Peter Budny
to render each label. -- Peter Budny \ Georgia Tech \ CS PhD student \ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-20 Thread Peter Budny
probably would indicate the township boundaries on most maps in a similar (though somewhat less prominent) manner to county boundaries - at least at certain zoom levels. It sounds like you may have just found a use for the missing admin_level=7 in the US. -- Peter Budny \ Georgia Tech \ CS PhD

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-20 Thread Peter Budny
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote: Anthony o...@inbox.org writes: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote: There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA and NJ

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-20 Thread Peter Budny
way to match the tags to what they actually represent. -- Peter Budny \ Georgia Tech \ CS PhD student \ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-20 Thread Peter Budny
/Local_government_in_Pennsylvania) So, are Pennsylvania school districts admin_level=7? I wouldn't think of school districts as a form of governmental/political division, which is what admin_level represents in my mind. Not that they shouldn't be on the map, but I think they belong under a different tag. -- Peter Budny

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-21 Thread Peter Budny
that the US is divided into states which are divided into counties, Mexico is divided into estados which are divided into minicipios, Japan is divided into ken (prefectures) which are divided into combinations of shi (cities), cho (towns), and mura (villages), etc. -- Peter Budny \ Georgia Tech \ CS PhD

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-21 Thread Peter Körner
Am 21.10.2010 23:29, schrieb Sean Horgan: The definition of such a tag/key that is so common the database (3+% according to taginfo: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/amenity), needs more than a single line definition. Do you have a suggestion? Peter

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - social facility

2010-10-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
for social_facility=*, and therefore that should be enough. social_facility is not ambiguous conflicting with other *=social_facility for interpretation as a subtag. That in mind: +1 from me for optional amenity=social_facility regards Peter On 21.10.2010 23:27, Sean Horgan wrote: Hello again

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?

2010-10-22 Thread Peter Budny
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote: Anthony o...@inbox.org writes: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/21/2010 08:06 AM, Anthony wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Greg Troxelg

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