Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Let me ask this, why doesn't the vfo group release the source code and let someone else continue development of window eyes? -Original Message- From: Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 7:48 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
Because that would keep a competitor around. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:16 AM To: Doug Geoffray ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Let me ask this, why

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sold down the river. That's a pretty good one. What we have seen, is how true capitalism works. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Huber via Talk > wrote: > > Hi Richard: > > We have to realize that Change happens whether we like it or not,

Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
I just wished all of the graphics were labeled in the windows live mail app. When I arrow up and down in the windows live maill app in jaws, it won’t say things like, replied, forwarded, read etc. It does in window eyes. -Original Message- From: Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Window-eyes commands using Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Here's what I don't understand about jaws? On the windows 10 update screen, I use incert plus b and jaws won't read it. I can use shift plus control plus w and windoweyes will read it. Switching to the jaws curser, it won't read it. I can read the screen using the window eyes mouse keys on

RE: Window-Eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread John Farley via Talk
Many thanks Doug. For both this and your great help over the past years. Regards, John Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent:

RE: Question RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-16 Thread Doug Geoffray via Talk
Amanda, Just to be clear, this is not true. One copy of the Window-Eyes offer for users of Microsoft office can be installed on as many machines as you need. Doug -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Lee

RE: Window-Eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread Jo Talliaferro via Talk
Hi Doug, I just want to write and say that I am saddened by this turn of events for Window-Eyes. I've been a user since the days of Vocal-Eyes and would like to express my gratitude to the WE and GW Micro staff for a wonderful 27 years! So much hard work made for timely updates, super

Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Window eyes should have no problems running on windows 7. It's just future updates coming to windows 10 -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:11 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration It

FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
-Original Message- From: Kurlander Richard (75) Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:50 AM To: 'talk-l...@window-eyes.com' Subject: whole migrating situation As a window-eyes user since 1997 I feel that people who used and are using window-eyes were sold down

Re: Window-Eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread Ian Westerland via Talk
Hi Doug. Firstly, thank you for your years of input and service. i have used and valued GW-Micro and Window-Eyes since 1995-96 and am sad to know it is no longer. I have no intention of changing to Jaws so am wondering what my options are. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Re: Window-Eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Ian: One option is to use NVDA, from NVAccess. I am sure that you may be aware of it. I have been using it for several years as a backup for Window-eyes, in cases hwhere Window-eyes doesn't work. It is free of charge but you can make a donation It is also open source software so if you can

RE: Question RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-16 Thread Doug Geoffray via Talk
Karen, Currently we don't have any plans on removing the Window-Eyes offer for users of Microsoft Office. But if you want to be safe, you can certainly just download the 9.5.4 version there now and tuck it away for a rainy day. It can be used on as many machines as you need. So yes, just

Re: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Especially since, even though there are screenreader specific commands for a lot of things, I, for one, don't use them all. So, my thought is, we will trip over some things we have to do differently, but it might not be so terrible. I have used old versions of jaws in class, so I knew some of

JAWS key

2017-05-16 Thread Don H via Talk
Has anyone got their JAWS license key via using the web form yet? This 40 minute demo mode for JAWS sucks to say the least. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai

Re: Question RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-16 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Hi Doug, Just a quick question: how well do Jaws commands work with a Microsoft feature called Sticky Keys? I am a lefthanded keyboard user, and these sticky keys act as if they are held down, allowing the user to press a combination keys without litterally having to hold down a key. The

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread CJ MAY via Talk
I presume that it is because Window-eyes was purchased with the intention of eliminating a competitor so they are unlikely to release a source code for others to develop Window-eyes. I'm really sorry and a bit fed-up too that Window-eyes is to be discontinued but can see it is a business decision

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Oh btw guys, Dave Williams, an AT specialist and trainer using NVDA and now NVDA certified, used Window-Eyes and he put together a history of Window-Eyes from GWMicro from 1.0 to the present. I think you'll find it fascinating. I have it on my computer. -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Dave via Talk
For what it's worth, the offer to Upgrade to JAWS for Free is a very good offer. The Brass at JAWS did not need to do this. Sure moving over to Jaws requires a bit of effort on our part. We do need to learn a new keyboard layout, and some of those keys might not be as easy as the Window Eyes

Re: JAWS key

2017-05-16 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Not yet. They told me it takes about 24 to 48 hours. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:13 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: JAWS key Has anyone got their JAWS license key via using the web form yet? This 40 minute demo mode

RE: JAWS key

2017-05-16 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
You can certainly continue to use Window-Eyes indefinitely. Migrating doesn't mean that you have to give-up using Window-Eyes at all. So if you want to begin using JAWS, then just wait until you have received the Authorization. -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread net bat via Talk
its in the utility pull down menu -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:23 PM To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do

RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread richard kurlander via Talk
AI have a full time job, a lot of blindpeople are unemployeed and they don't have the money to even buy software or embossers if they want to braille. gw micro should have been working with microsoft from the getgo. People can work from home and work in their underwear to help people, that's

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
I do need to apologize. You don’t actually have to download the DAISY books if you don’t want to. They are designed to install into the default JAWS folder, and they don’t give you a lot of indications as to where they’re going. I think these are the files JAWS downloads if you use FS reader

The JAWS Experience

2017-05-16 Thread Dave via Talk
Grumpy Dave here, the Reluctant New Jaws user. I downloaded the MP3 files telling a little bit about the way to Migrate, and then to start using Jaws. These audio files are short and to the point. They don't go into great detail, but give enough to get Jaws installed and to at least have

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread James Bentley via Talk
I’m not Joseph, but try this. Jaws key plus D, to get in to the currently focused application dictionary. Follow this with a control shift D, to get in to the global dictionary. then hit enter and follow the menus. Good luck, James B From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Tuesday,

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread richard kurlander via Talk
if you a computer engineer you know a lot more than I do and people like you should help other blind people by giving them hands on training if you do tech support.At 04:01 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote: Simplicity is in the eye of the beholder. We all need different things. I am a computer

RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Wow your unreasonable to say the least -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:50 AM To: john_far...@btinternet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: FW:

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread richard kurlander via Talk
you used to work for we I feel as a blind person that tech support in these companies should give hands on training for free not just say read a manual or listen to tutorials. that doesn't work for me. I learn better with hands on. I work all day and certainly do not have the time to read

Re: WE and firefox 64 bit

2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Just run the 32 bit version. You gain little if anything with most 64 bit versions of programs. Some actually run slower. It's not the simple double the number equals double the performance one might think. Half of the windows programs on a 64 bit system are 32 bit. Regards, Tom On 5/16/2017

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Hi Joseph, Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do you get to it? Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Then, perhaps we are not dealing with capitalism, as the customer doesn't have the right to choose? Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk > wrote: > > With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have >

Re: JFW first impressions.

2017-05-16 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Brian: I think that the pausing issue is more likely a synthesizer issue, but I could be wrong. Kevin Huber On 5/16/17, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > Ok, so I downloaded and installed the demo of JAWS 18. I’m slowly getting > the hang of it, though it’s

Re: JFW first impressions.

2017-05-16 Thread James Bentley via Talk
Hi Bryan, Sorry you got stuck having to learn a new screen reader. I know how much I hate change. And, a lot of WE user’s are in for a big one. Bryan, I’m certain that many Jaws users will be happy to assist. Note, I am using Jaws 17 but, maybe the directions will be the same. To add a

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
He has the right to choose whatever is in the market place. On 5/16/2017 12:38 PM, Darrell Bowles wrote: > Then, perhaps we are not dealing with capitalism, as the customer doesn't > have the right to choose? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 16, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk >>

Re: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have realized from participating on this list, is the variety of needs and experiences WE users have. So while you and I don't use mouse keys (for example), others do. I probably use %2 of WE's functionality, so probably any

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Quit complaining and give Jaws a try or don't. If you don't like how a screen reader is made write one yourself. I think you will quickly see the challenges the devs have. How about a little thanks to Doug and the rest of the Staff and to VFO for giving us this offer that they didn't have

Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread brice Mijares via Talk
Here here! On 5/16/2017 9:47 AM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: Quit complaining and give Jaws a try or don't. If you don't like how a screen reader is made write one yourself. I think you will quickly see the challenges the devs have. How about a little thanks to Doug and the rest of the

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Then we have a monopoly, where there is only one option. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Dennis Long via Talk > wrote: > > I agree either accept the offer or don't. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk

RE: Window-eyes commands using Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Use Insert-B for read box. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:12 AM To: Kevin Minor ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
In its purest form, capitalism is, you have something I want, and I have something you want, let's make a deal! And you the consumer can choose to purchase the product or refuse. What is more free than that? There's no political state telling you what to purchase or what to create. On

RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
I agree either accept the offer or don't. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:30 PM To: Kurlander Richard (75); Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: FW:

JFW first impressions.

2017-05-16 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
Ok, so I downloaded and installed the demo of JAWS 18. I’m slowly getting the hang of it, though it’s taking me a while to figure out how to save things like my keyboard settings and speech rate and things like that so that they’ll be that way when JAWS first boots up. I have noticed, and maybe

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
We have a monopoly now, since eventually ie will be gone and everyone will have to use Microsoft edge and if jaws is the only screne reader that can work with Microsoft edge what can you do? If Microsoft decides to change windows to do updates and office which they did when they introduced

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Armando Maldonado via Talk
Yes I agree with Raul, testing out Screen reader, formally known as Super Nova and so far it's okay, much more responsitve than Jaws is in windows 10, just my own personal opinion. - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
While the main competitor of JFW may be gone, others are emerging. You’ve still got choice. It may not be the choice you would like to make, but, the playing field is changing. Neither NVDA, or System Access was around when Window-Eyes and JFW came out. Back then, you had Slimware Window

RE: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
According to http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate, you do need to act by July 31 to get the offer. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:09 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive? I purchased window-eyes

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
Where do you get super nova -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:11 PM To: Raul A. Gallegos ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Why doesn't the vfo group give up the source code and let someone else continue development of window eyes? -Original Message- From: Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 7:20 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Aaron Smith Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration We's

Re: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
That's one thing that's predictable: CHANGE!--Matthew Chao On 5/16/2017 10:28 AM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote: Hi Richard: We have to realize that Change happens whether we like it or not, and we have to get used to it. Many people did not like when DOS was fazed out, if you remember, but

RE: Question RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-16 Thread Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
You might have to pay for it. I can send you the keystrokes. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Natalie via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:01 PM To: Doug Geoffray; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re:

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
I'd be interested in this history. Do you have a link? Got my first Apple 2 e in 1983 from computer aids, ran screen-talk and then vocal-eyes and then window-eyes. I think I've been doing this stufs much to long. Now I begin learning n v d a. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On

Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Loy via Talk
Being there is thousands of WE users to convert over to JAWS, it would be good if there could develope a Window Eyes keyboard layout, like Window Eyes had a JAWS keyboard layout. - Original Message - From: brice Mijares via Talk To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ;

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
There are some programs under Utilities, though I wouldn’t call them bloatware. What 9 programs are you referring to? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:03 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi, I just installed

Re: wineyes to jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
Hi, Folks. Any way I can get a braille cheat sheet for JAWS? Thanks.--Matthew Chao On 5/15/2017 1:00 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote: I'm glad to hear there is some learning material, and no, I don't know of any list for Jaws users, but I do know they exist. Thanks for the info. On

Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Does jaws work with dec-talk express and the Alva braille controller? Specifically, when using window eyes with the Alva, I found that it would start working, then when I would do various things like go into websites and different things, it would just die. I'd look at my braille display and

Re: window-eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread Davy Cuppens via Talk
Don't worry don't hurry first they have to ask Trump. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM To: 'pete gurney' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: window-eyes users in the UK Hi Pete, Worse still, as a dealer of Window-Eyes I

RE: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

2017-05-16 Thread Richard Petty via Talk
Thanks so much. -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen [mailto:l...@sprynet.com] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:45 PM To: Richard Petty; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WordNav Functionality in JAWS I think that the Word Nav app was inspired by a feature that was already in

Re: Jaws And Deck--talk Express

2017-05-16 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Okay, how do you add a synthesizer? Pam. -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 6:20 PM To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Jaws And Deck--talk Express Hi: You can use a DecTalk Express. In JAWS,

Re: Thank you

2017-05-16 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
I also want to add my thanks to you Doug and all the workers who made Window-Eyes possible. God bless you and your families. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:26 PM To: 'Vaughan Dodd' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE:

RE: how to get navigations sounds to play in chrome

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
What is the difference between the two add-ons? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris G via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:31 AM To: Dennis Long via Talk Subject: Re: how to get navigations sounds to play in

RE: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

2017-05-16 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
Hi, Insert-Z will turn on the equivalent, then you can use pretty much the same commands. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Richard Petty via Talk Sent: 16 May 2017 03:21 To: 'Window-Eyes

RE: window-eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
Hi Pete, Worse still, as a dealer of Window-Eyes I have also had absolutely no contact. So to me, VFO haven't really changed the way Freedom used to do things, they are not supporting dealers or customers outside the UK very well at this point. All the best Steve -Original Message-

Re: Thank you

2017-05-16 Thread Brian Moore via Talk
I do as well. As a very happy Window-eyes user for any years, I want to offer thanks for a really good product. On 16/05/2017 7:42 AM, Pastor Gil Pries via Talk wrote: I also want to add my thanks to you Doug and all the workers who made Window-Eyes possible. God bless you and your

Re: Vocalizer Expressive

2017-05-16 Thread Matthew Dyer via Talk
Hi Rob, Yes you can download the voices for jaws and you can get there through the help menu. Matthew On 05/16/2017 12:48 AM, Robert Byers via Talk wrote: Hi! What will happen to the Vocalize Synths? Will I be able to use them with JAWS? Rob.

RE: window-eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
If you listened to the podcast it said international users would take time. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of michaeel's mail via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:36 AM To: Ian Westerland; Window-Eyes Discussion

RE: window-eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread Diana Kube via Talk
I don't know what world you are living in but I am still getting support and updates. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+kube=netspace.net...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of michaeel's mail via Talk Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2017 8:36 PM To: Ian Westerland

RE: Jaws-key, can it be remapped?

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
I think if you change the keyboard to laptop layout it will do that. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:28 AM To: WE English Mailinglist Subject: Jaws-key, can it be

Re: window-eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread Ian Westerland via Talk
They aren't doing anything here in Australia either. No support, no information, nothing at all. It appears that Window-Eyes hasn't been sold here in Australia since last September. More of the same and you know, if I was buying anything, even a home apliance and was getting the low

Re: switch to Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread aad leeflang via Talk
yes that's true, move on, but to what, there is not much choice in the world. were does your quote come from? beneath your message? aad On Tue, 16 May 2017 04:18:37 -0500 Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: > Look, there are legit complaints about jfw, long standing bugs,

Re: Window-Eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread David via Talk
Apparently this is the case pretty much all over. Our local dealer has not had much info either, except from what we all know, the webpage Doug and Aaron pointed us to yesterday, and the email stating the state of things. As a matter of fact, it seems some of us users read the message even a

Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread michaeel's mail via Talk
Hi Arron i am very disappointed that VFO has excluded the rest of the world from recieving Jaws free. Cos I live in Australia and had to have a dealer cos GW micro would not let us buy from them our selfs. I say that is not right i payed for WE and our dealer has no offers for Jaws. I will not

Re: switch to Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Reeva Webb via Talk
Look, there are legit complaints about jfw, long standing bugs, scripting cost etc. but offer is real. Take it if you want, move on if you don't. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva

RE: Window-Eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread John Farley via Talk
Hi Steve, I had forgotten that you were also a Window-Eyes dealer in the UK. Aaron Smith just pointed out Sight and Sound to me when I asked him who the dealer was in the UK. I can repeat Peter's comment that Toby, in S and S, knows nothing about any actions they will be taking yet and wants me

RE: how to get navigations sounds to play in chrome

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
How do you find extensions you download to chrome? It says it's added I sure can't find it. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris G via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:31 AM To: Dennis Long via Talk Subject:

Jaws-key, can it be remapped?

2017-05-16 Thread David via Talk
Tried the demo of Jaws. Sure got a lerning curve. But one thing that I see as a drawback, is the Jaws-key. I do understand the jaws-key is the Insert-key. Since I am on a laptop, with no numpad, I am using the Insert-key which would be located along with my home, end and so forth. Yet, in WE,

Re: window-eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread michaeel's mail via Talk
Hi Ian i am very annoyed as well. I thought the offer was for all current window eyes payed users. Now after playing the pod cast it is only for the US and Canada how unfair that is. Cos we live in Australia and payed good money for WE. Now we get nothing. Cheers Michael. -Original

window-eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread pete gurney via Talk
hi all, having just spoken to the main dealer of Jaws in the UK Sight and Sound they have confirmed that they have had no contact from VFO concerning any migration offer for window-eyes users in the UK. they have asked me to speak to them again next week to give them time to try and find out

RE: window-eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Pete give it time at the end of the pod cast it said it would take time to coordinate things overseas. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of pete gurney via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:22 AM To: Window-Eyes

Re: Question RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-16 Thread Chris G via Talk
Just download it once, save the file to another place and copy it to the computer you want to install it on. The download isn't tied to your computer, Office is. Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. https://www.MysticAccess.com Ready to begin using your assistive

Re: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

2017-05-16 Thread Chris G via Talk
Correct, JAWS had the feature first. Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. https://www.MysticAccess.com Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one

how to get navigations sounds to play in chrome

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Hi, how do you get navigation sounds to play in chrome? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
Hi, It really depends on what you want to do. NVDA is vastly better on the web than JAWS and I believe always will be. But not configurable enough. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis

Re: win eyes to jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Doesn't jaws cost a lot more to keep up to date than it did for window eyes? -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:19 AM To: 'Darrell Bowles' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: win eyes to jaws Hello Daryl. This is Sky. I know how you

Re: JAWS key

2017-05-16 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Don: The JAWS 40 minute demo, as with the Window-eyes 40 minute demo, is meant to test hthe software's features, and to help you decide if you want to buy the software. Don't try to do any real work with it. (grin) Kevin Huber On 5/16/17, Don H via Talk wrote:

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Juan Hernandez via Talk
Simplicity is in the eye of the beholder. We all need different things. I am a computer engineer, so I need access to some of the more advanced aspects of the screen reader to use my various software development tools. Screen readers are there to help all of us. And that means having lots

RE: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
I totally agree here. All of this is so bittersweet. I was here at work and it was difficult not to cry. I have worked with various of the staff at GW Micro closely over the years on beta testing and qualified an agency for the blind as a dealer awhile back. I will so miss Window-Eyes and how

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk
I tried to download the tutorials mentioned in the FS reader, but can not. I even tried to copy the link addresses and download them manually and received a "not valid web page" error. Since we do not have access to a DVD either, how are we supposed to get said information? Carol On

RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread John Farley via Talk
Richard, Currently Apple products come with built in speech, as you may know. That has been a native part of the operating system for many years, if not from their inception. However, Microsoft Windows did not originally come with a speech capability. Microsoft are slowly adding Narrator

Re: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
Quite a few of us will be grumpy! I just signed up for the migration, and should be getting my authorization code soon.--Matthew Chao On 5/16/2017 3:42 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk wrote: Hi Dave, Well said! I don't want to make the change back to Jaws, especially since they were the

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Alison May via Talk
And there is always the Apple Mac option with its free screen reader! Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 0777 315 8181 > On 16 May 2017, at 8:14 pm, Joseph Norton via Talk > wrote: > > While the main competitor of JFW may be gone, others are emerging. > > You’ve

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi: I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more current, in some cases. Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window.

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Learn jaws it has virtual ribbons -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:36 PM To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: whole

Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Ted Larson via Talk
I purchased window-eyes and I have some s m a's. Does this mean that if I migrate now, it is free, but, if I wait until after july 31, then I would have to pay the full price of Jaws? Regards: Ted Larson ___ Any views or opinions presented in this

RE: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Paulette Vickery via Talk
Hi Dave, Well said! I don't want to make the change back to Jaws, especially since they were the opposission, but since it's free, I will try it. But like you, I can be as grumpy as I like about the switch! I guess I will be on that Jaws list, too. Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Thanks for the rare voice of reason, Raul. Regards, Tom On 5/16/2017 3:06 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote: Hi, this is not true. What about other browsers like Firefox and Chrome? There is always choice. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and

Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
It's free now. So why wouldn't you at least download it and get your registration code. You don't have to use it or even install it. And your Window-Eyes SMAs are otherwise worthless anyway. Regards, Tom On 5/16/2017 3:09 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote: I purchased window-eyes and I have some

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different

RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
It is not a matter whether to accept or not to accept, sighted people do not need extra software to use a computer. Blind people need extra software and even though I work can pay for any software I feel blind people should be given software so they can survive in this tech world. I've read

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi: I am pretty young, (50 this year), so I have not had as much trouble with change as some. Over the years, I have come from DOS to Windows. I started with a demo of Soft Vert. Then, I got ASAP and used the demo for a while. I also tried JAWS for DOS, as well as Vocal-Eyes. For some

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