Let me ask this, why doesn't the vfo group release the source code and let
someone else continue development of window eyes?
-Original Message-
From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 7:48 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
Because that would keep a competitor around.
Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:16 AM
To: Doug Geoffray ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
Let me ask this, why
Sold down the river. That's a pretty good one. What we have seen, is how true
capitalism works.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 16, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Huber via Talk
> wrote:
>
> Hi Richard:
>
> We have to realize that Change happens whether we like it or not,
I just wished all of the graphics were labeled in the windows live mail app.
When I arrow up and down in the windows live maill app in jaws, it won’t say
things like, replied, forwarded, read etc. It does in window eyes.
-Original Message-
From: Steve Nutt via Talk
Sent: Tuesday,
Here's what I don't understand about jaws?
On the windows 10 update screen, I use incert plus b and jaws won't read it.
I can use shift plus control plus w and windoweyes will read it.
Switching to the jaws curser, it won't read it. I can read the screen using
the window eyes mouse keys on
Many thanks Doug.
For both this and your great help over the past years.
Regards, John
Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent:
Amanda,
Just to be clear, this is not true. One copy of the Window-Eyes offer for
users of Microsoft office can be installed on as many machines as you need.
Doug
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Amanda Lee
Hi Doug,
I just want to write and say that I am saddened by this turn of events for
Window-Eyes. I've been a
user since the days of Vocal-Eyes and would like to express my gratitude to the
WE and GW Micro
staff for a wonderful 27 years! So much hard work made for timely updates,
super
Window eyes should have no problems running on windows 7. It's just future
updates coming to windows 10
-Original Message-
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:11 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
It
-Original Message-
From: Kurlander Richard (75)
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:50 AM
To: 'talk-l...@window-eyes.com'
Subject: whole migrating situation
As a window-eyes user since 1997 I feel that people who used and are using
window-eyes were sold down
Hi Doug. Firstly, thank you for your years of input and service. i
have used and valued GW-Micro and Window-Eyes since 1995-96 and am sad
to know it is no longer.
I have no intention of changing to Jaws so am wondering what my options
are.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Hi Ian:
One option is to use NVDA, from NVAccess. I am sure that you may be
aware of it.
I have been using it for several years as a backup for Window-eyes, in
cases hwhere Window-eyes doesn't work. It is free of charge but you
can make a donation
It is also open source software so if you can
Karen,
Currently we don't have any plans on removing the Window-Eyes offer for users
of Microsoft Office. But if you want to be safe, you can certainly just
download the 9.5.4 version there now and tuck it away for a rainy day. It can
be used on as many machines as you need.
So yes, just
Especially since, even though there are screenreader specific commands for a
lot of things, I, for one, don't use them all. So, my thought is, we will
trip over some things we have to do differently, but it might not be so
terrible. I have used old versions of jaws in class, so I knew some of
Has anyone got their JAWS license key via using the web form yet? This
40 minute demo mode for JAWS sucks to say the least.
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Hi Doug,
Just a quick question: how well do Jaws commands work with a Microsoft
feature called Sticky Keys? I am a lefthanded keyboard user, and these
sticky keys act as if they are held down, allowing the user to press a
combination keys without litterally having to hold down a key. The
I presume that it is because Window-eyes was purchased with the intention of
eliminating a competitor so they are unlikely to release a source code for
others to develop Window-eyes.
I'm really sorry and a bit fed-up too that Window-eyes is to be discontinued
but can see it is a business decision
Oh btw guys, Dave Williams, an AT specialist and trainer using NVDA and now
NVDA certified, used Window-Eyes and he put together a history of
Window-Eyes from GWMicro from 1.0 to the present. I think you'll find it
fascinating. I have it on my computer.
-Original Message-
From: Talk
For what it's worth, the offer to Upgrade to JAWS for Free is a very
good offer. The Brass at JAWS did not need to do this.
Sure moving over to Jaws requires a bit of effort on our part. We do
need to learn a new keyboard layout, and some of those keys might not be
as easy as the Window Eyes
Not yet.
They told me it takes about 24 to 48 hours.
Pastor Gil
-Original Message-
From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:13 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: JAWS key
Has anyone got their JAWS license key via using the web form yet? This
40 minute demo mode
You can certainly continue to use Window-Eyes indefinitely. Migrating
doesn't mean that you have to give-up using Window-Eyes at all.
So if you want to begin using JAWS, then just wait until you have received
the Authorization.
-Original Message-
From: Talk
its in the utility pull down menu
-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:23 PM
To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws
Hi Joseph,
Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do
AI have a full time job, a lot of blindpeople are unemployeed and
they don't have the money to even buy software or embossers if they
want to braille. gw micro should have been working with microsoft
from the getgo. People can work from home and work in their underwear
to help people, that's
I do need to apologize. You don’t actually have to download the DAISY books if
you don’t want to. They are designed to install into the default JAWS folder,
and they don’t give you a lot of indications as to where they’re going. I
think these are the files JAWS downloads if you use FS reader
Grumpy Dave here, the Reluctant New Jaws user.
I downloaded the MP3 files telling a little bit about the way to Migrate,
and then to start using Jaws.
These audio files are short and to the point. They don't go into great
detail, but give enough to get Jaws installed and to at least have
I’m not Joseph, but try this.
Jaws key plus D, to get in to the currently focused application dictionary.
Follow this with a control shift D, to get in to the global dictionary. then
hit enter and follow the menus.
Good luck,
James B
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Tuesday,
if you a computer engineer you know a lot more
than I do and people like you should help other
blind people by giving them hands on training if
you do tech support.At 04:01 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote:
Simplicity is in the eye of the beholder. We all
need different things. I am a computer
Wow your unreasonable to say the least
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:50 AM
To: john_far...@btinternet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: FW:
you used to work for we I feel as a blind person
that tech support in these companies should give
hands on training for free not just say read a
manual or listen to tutorials. that doesn't work
for me. I learn better with hands on. I work all
day and certainly do not have the time to read
Just run the 32 bit version. You gain little if anything with most 64
bit versions of programs. Some actually run slower. It's not the simple
double the number equals double the performance one might think. Half of
the windows programs on a 64 bit system are 32 bit.
Regards,
Tom
On 5/16/2017
Hi Joseph,
Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do
you get to it?
Pastor Gil
-Original Message-
From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:26 PM
To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws
Hi
Then, perhaps we are not dealing with capitalism, as the customer doesn't have
the right to choose?
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 16, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk
> wrote:
>
> With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have
>
Hi Brian:
I think that the pausing issue is more likely a synthesizer issue,
but I could be wrong.
Kevin Huber
On 5/16/17, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote:
> Ok, so I downloaded and installed the demo of JAWS 18. I’m slowly getting
> the hang of it, though it’s
Hi Bryan,
Sorry you got stuck having to learn a new screen reader. I know how much I
hate change. And, a lot of WE user’s are in for a big one. Bryan, I’m certain
that many Jaws users will be happy to assist.
Note, I am using Jaws 17 but, maybe the directions will be the same.
To add a
He has the right to choose whatever is in the market place.
On 5/16/2017 12:38 PM, Darrell Bowles wrote:
> Then, perhaps we are not dealing with capitalism, as the customer doesn't
> have the right to choose?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 16, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk
>>
With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have
realized from participating on this list, is the variety of needs and
experiences WE users have. So while you and I don't use mouse keys (for
example), others do. I probably use %2 of WE's functionality, so
probably any
Quit complaining and give Jaws a try or don't. If you don't like how a screen
reader is made write one yourself. I think you will quickly see the challenges
the devs have. How about a little thanks to
Doug and the rest of the Staff and to VFO for giving us this offer that they
didn't have
Here here!
On 5/16/2017 9:47 AM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
Quit complaining and give Jaws a try or don't. If you don't like how a screen
reader is made write one yourself. I think you will quickly see the challenges
the devs have. How about a little thanks to
Doug and the rest of the
Then we have a monopoly, where there is only one option.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Dennis Long via Talk
> wrote:
>
> I agree either accept the offer or don't.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
Use Insert-B for read box.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:12 AM
To: Kevin Minor ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
In its purest form, capitalism is, you have something I want, and I have
something you want, let's make a deal! And you the consumer can choose
to purchase the product or refuse. What is more free than that? There's
no political state telling you what to purchase or what to create.
On
I agree either accept the offer or don't.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:30 PM
To: Kurlander Richard (75); Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: FW:
Ok, so I downloaded and installed the demo of JAWS 18. I’m slowly getting the
hang of it, though it’s taking me a while to figure out how to save things like
my keyboard settings and speech rate and things like that so that they’ll be
that way when JAWS first boots up. I have noticed, and maybe
We have a monopoly now, since eventually ie will be gone and everyone will have
to use Microsoft edge and if jaws is the only screne reader that can work with
Microsoft edge what can you do? If Microsoft decides to change windows to do
updates and office which they did when they introduced
Yes I agree with Raul, testing out Screen reader, formally known as Super
Nova and so far it's okay, much more responsitve than Jaws is in windows 10,
just my own personal opinion.
- Original Message -
From: "Raul A. Gallegos via Talk"
To: "Window-Eyes
While the main competitor of JFW may be gone, others are emerging.
You’ve still got choice. It may not be the choice you would like to make, but,
the playing field is changing.
Neither NVDA, or System Access was around when Window-Eyes and JFW came out.
Back then, you had Slimware Window
According to http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate, you do need to act by
July 31 to get the offer.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Ted Larson via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:09 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?
I purchased window-eyes
Where do you get super nova
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:11 PM
To: Raul A. Gallegos ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Why doesn't the vfo group give up the source code and let someone else
continue development of window eyes?
-Original Message-
From: Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 7:20 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Aaron Smith
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
We's
That's one thing that's predictable: CHANGE!--Matthew Chao
On 5/16/2017 10:28 AM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:
Hi Richard:
We have to realize that Change happens whether we like it or not, and
we have to get used to it. Many people did not like when DOS was
fazed out, if you remember, but
You might have to pay for it. I can send you the keystrokes.
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Natalie via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:01 PM
To: Doug Geoffray; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re:
I'd be interested in this history. Do you have a link? Got my first
Apple 2 e in 1983 from computer aids, ran screen-talk and then
vocal-eyes and then window-eyes. I think I've been doing this stufs
much to long. Now I begin learning n v d a.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.
On
Being there is thousands of WE users to convert over to JAWS, it would be good
if there could develope a Window Eyes keyboard layout, like Window Eyes had a
JAWS keyboard layout.
- Original Message -
From: brice Mijares via Talk
To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ;
There are some programs under Utilities, though I wouldn’t call them bloatware.
What 9 programs are you referring to?
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:03 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Learning Jaws
Hi,
I just installed
Hi, Folks. Any way I can get a braille cheat sheet for JAWS?
Thanks.--Matthew Chao
On 5/15/2017 1:00 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
I'm glad to hear there is some learning material, and no, I don't know
of any list for Jaws users, but I do know they exist. Thanks for the
info.
On
Does jaws work with dec-talk express and the Alva braille controller?
Specifically, when using window eyes with the Alva, I found that it would
start working, then when I would do various things like go into websites and
different things, it would just die. I'd look at my braille display and
Don't worry don't hurry first they have to ask Trump.
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Steve Nutt via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM
To: 'pete gurney' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: window-eyes users in the UK
Hi Pete,
Worse still, as a dealer of Window-Eyes I
Thanks so much.
-Original Message-
From: Lloyd Rasmussen [mailto:l...@sprynet.com]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:45 PM
To: Richard Petty; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WordNav Functionality in JAWS
I think that the Word Nav app was inspired by a feature that was already in
Okay, how do you add a synthesizer? Pam.
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 6:20 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: RE: Jaws And Deck--talk Express
Hi:
You can use a DecTalk Express.
In JAWS,
I also want to add my thanks to you Doug and all the workers who made
Window-Eyes possible.
God bless you and your families.
Pastor Gil
-Original Message-
From: Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:26 PM
To: 'Vaughan Dodd' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE:
What is the difference between the two add-ons?
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris G via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:31 AM
To: Dennis Long via Talk
Subject: Re: how to get navigations sounds to play in
Hi,
Insert-Z will turn on the equivalent, then you can use pretty much the same
commands.
All the best
Steve
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Richard Petty via Talk
Sent: 16 May 2017 03:21
To: 'Window-Eyes
Hi Pete,
Worse still, as a dealer of Window-Eyes I have also had absolutely no
contact.
So to me, VFO haven't really changed the way Freedom used to do things, they
are not supporting dealers or customers outside the UK very well at this
point.
All the best
Steve
-Original Message-
I do as well. As a very happy Window-eyes user for any years, I want to
offer thanks for a really good product.
On 16/05/2017 7:42 AM, Pastor Gil Pries via Talk wrote:
I also want to add my thanks to you Doug and all the workers who made
Window-Eyes possible.
God bless you and your
Hi Rob,
Yes you can download the voices for jaws and you can get there through
the help menu.
Matthew
On 05/16/2017 12:48 AM, Robert Byers via Talk wrote:
Hi!
What will happen to the Vocalize Synths?
Will I be able to use them with JAWS?
Rob.
If you listened to the podcast it said international users would take time.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of michaeel's mail via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:36 AM
To: Ian Westerland; Window-Eyes Discussion
I don't know what world you are living in but I am still getting support and
updates.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+kube=netspace.net...@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of michaeel's mail via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2017 8:36 PM
To: Ian Westerland
I think if you change the keyboard to laptop layout it will do that.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:28 AM
To: WE English Mailinglist
Subject: Jaws-key, can it be
They aren't doing anything here in Australia either. No support, no
information, nothing at all. It appears that Window-Eyes hasn't been
sold here in Australia since last September. More of the same and you
know, if I was buying anything, even a home apliance and was getting the
low
yes that's true, move on, but to what, there is not much choice in the
world.
were does your quote come from? beneath your message?
aad
On Tue, 16 May 2017 04:18:37 -0500
Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
> Look, there are legit complaints about jfw, long standing bugs,
Apparently this is the case pretty much all over. Our local dealer has
not had much info either, except from what we all know, the webpage Doug
and Aaron pointed us to yesterday, and the email stating the state of
things. As a matter of fact, it seems some of us users read the message
even a
Hi Arron i am very disappointed that VFO has excluded the rest of the world
from recieving Jaws free.
Cos I live in Australia and had to have a dealer cos GW micro would not let
us buy from them our selfs.
I say that is not right i payed for WE and our dealer has no offers for
Jaws.
I will not
Look, there are legit complaints about jfw, long standing bugs, scripting
cost etc. but offer is real. Take it if you want, move on if you don't.
"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho
Reeva
Hi Steve,
I had forgotten that you were also a Window-Eyes dealer in the UK.
Aaron Smith just pointed out Sight and Sound to me when I asked him who the
dealer was in the UK.
I can repeat Peter's comment that Toby, in S and S, knows nothing about any
actions they will be taking yet and wants me
How do you find extensions you download to chrome? It says it's added I
sure can't find it.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris G via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:31 AM
To: Dennis Long via Talk
Subject:
Tried the demo of Jaws. Sure got a lerning curve. But one thing that I
see as a drawback, is the Jaws-key.
I do understand the jaws-key is the Insert-key. Since I am on a laptop,
with no numpad, I am using the Insert-key which would be located along
with my home, end and so forth. Yet, in WE,
Hi Ian i am very annoyed as well.
I thought the offer was for all current window eyes payed users.
Now after playing the pod cast it is only for the US and Canada how unfair
that is.
Cos we live in Australia and payed good money for WE.
Now we get nothing.
Cheers Michael.
-Original
hi all,
having just spoken to the main dealer of Jaws in the UK Sight and Sound they
have confirmed that they have had no contact from VFO concerning any
migration offer for window-eyes users in the UK.
they have asked me to speak to them again next week to give them time
to try and find out
Pete give it time at the end of the pod cast it said it would take time to
coordinate things overseas.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of pete gurney via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:22 AM
To: Window-Eyes
Just download it once, save the file to another place and copy it to the
computer you want to install it on.
The download isn't tied to your computer, Office is.
Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive
Correct, JAWS had the feature first.
Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one
Hi, how do you get navigation sounds to play in chrome?
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Hi,
It really depends on what you want to do. NVDA is vastly better on the web
than JAWS and I believe always will be. But not configurable enough.
All the best
Steve
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Dennis
Doesn't jaws cost a lot more to keep up to date than it did for window eyes?
-Original Message-
From: Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:19 AM
To: 'Darrell Bowles' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: win eyes to jaws
Hello Daryl. This is Sky. I know how you
Hi Don:
The JAWS 40 minute demo, as with the Window-eyes 40 minute demo, is
meant to test hthe software's features, and to help you decide if you
want to buy the software. Don't try to do any real work with it.
(grin)
Kevin Huber
On 5/16/17, Don H via Talk wrote:
Simplicity is in the eye of the beholder.
We all need different things. I am a computer engineer, so I need access to
some of the more advanced aspects of the screen reader to use my various
software development tools. Screen readers are there to help all of us. And
that means having lots
I totally agree here. All of this is so bittersweet. I was here at work
and it was difficult not to cry. I have worked with various of the staff at
GW Micro closely over the years on beta testing and qualified an agency for
the blind as a dealer awhile back. I will so miss Window-Eyes and how
I tried to download the tutorials mentioned in the FS reader, but can
not. I even tried to copy the link addresses and download them manually
and received a "not valid web page" error. Since we do not have access
to a DVD either, how are we supposed to get said information?
Carol
On
Richard,
Currently Apple products come with built in speech, as you may know. That
has been a native part of the operating system for many years, if not from
their inception.
However, Microsoft Windows did not originally come with a speech capability.
Microsoft are slowly adding Narrator
Quite a few of us will be grumpy! I just signed up for the migration,
and should be getting my authorization code soon.--Matthew Chao
On 5/16/2017 3:42 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk wrote:
Hi Dave,
Well said! I don't want to make the change back to Jaws, especially since
they were the
And there is always the Apple Mac option with its free screen reader!
Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181
> On 16 May 2017, at 8:14 pm, Joseph Norton via Talk
> wrote:
>
> While the main competitor of JFW may be gone, others are emerging.
>
> You’ve
Hi:
I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration.
However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic training.
This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more current, in some
cases.
Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window.
Learn jaws it has virtual ribbons
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: whole
I purchased window-eyes and I have some s m a's. Does this mean that if I
migrate now, it is free, but, if I wait until after july 31, then I would
have to pay the full price of Jaws? Regards: Ted Larson
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Hi Dave,
Well said! I don't want to make the change back to Jaws, especially since
they were the opposission, but since it's free, I will try it. But like you,
I can be as grumpy as I like about the switch! I guess I will be on that
Jaws list, too.
Paulette
-Original Message-
From: Talk
Thanks for the rare voice of reason, Raul.
Regards,
Tom
On 5/16/2017 3:06 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
Hi, this is not true. What about other browsers like Firefox and Chrome?
There is always choice.
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Raul A. Gallegos
Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
Voice and
It's free now. So why wouldn't you at least download it and get your
registration code. You don't have to use it or even install it. And your
Window-Eyes SMAs are otherwise worthless anyway.
Regards,
Tom
On 5/16/2017 3:09 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:
I purchased window-eyes and I have some
Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's
no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged
version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download
the FS Reader training materials though which cover different
It is not a matter whether to accept or not to accept, sighted people do not
need extra software to use a computer. Blind people need extra software and
even though I work can pay for any software I feel blind people should be given
software so they can survive in this tech world. I've read
Hi:
I am pretty young, (50 this year), so I have not had as much trouble with
change as some.
Over the years, I have come from DOS to Windows.
I started with a demo of Soft Vert. Then, I got ASAP and used the demo for a
while. I also tried JAWS for DOS, as well as Vocal-Eyes. For some
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