Re: OT Re: Alpha icons

2005-02-27 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Sunday, February 27, 2005, 23:27:24, Krzysztof Trybowski wrote: > I think GIMP does it, right? No, it doesn't. (And even new versions of PNM2PNG dropped the support). -- < Jernej Simoncic ><><><><>< http://deepthought.ena.si/ > [The Bat! v3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha on Windows NT Clone 5.2.3790.] A

RE: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Mic, Sunday, February 27, 2005, 10:41:00 PM, you wrote: GF>>> If I had the same attitude that a few other showed up I would say GF>>> something like "I don't use IMAP, I don't care if it has bugs or GF>>> not I rather have HTML rendered correctly" but I find both things GF>>> important. >

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread The Final Cut
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello On Sunday, February 27, 2005, at 5:03:35 PM You wrote: >> The reason other "players" have good HTML support is that these >> other player also write browsers. They implement their browser into >> their e-mail product. Do I have anything agains

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: > Not too long ago my host implemented IMAP. I've never used it before but > would like to see what all the fuss is about. Trouble is if I try it > with a half working IMAP client I'm afraid it'll put me off of it for > life. IMAP is really great if you need to access your mai

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: > How about a button on the header pane that works on a per message basis. > It only appears if the message is html and requires images to be > downloaded. You click it, the pretty pictures appear and then it defaults > to off for the next message? Actually what we had talked

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Mic Cullen
At 00:26 [GMT+0100] on Monday February 28 (actual time - 7:26am on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: >>> If it is _your_ reason, it is a good reason. >> >> Not a comment on this post specifically (ie Greg), more on the thread in >> general: >> >> Sorry, but that's rubbish. It's *ni

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread MAU
Hello Mic, >>> Probably not a good reason, but I owned Agent before I knew of MyGate >>> and I got used to it. > >> If it is _your_ reason, it is a good reason. > > Not a comment on this post specifically (ie Greg), more on the thread in > general: > > Sorry, but that's rubbish. It's *nice*, bu

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread MAU
Hello Greg, > URL? http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ Correct? Yes, correct. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha |

Re: OT Re: Alpha icons

2005-02-27 Thread Krzysztof Trybowski
Hello Jernej, On Sunday, February 27, 2005 you wrote: > On Sunday, February 27, 2005, 14:41:29, Krzysztof Trybowski wrote: >> Are you saying that PSP still doesn't support alpha channel with >> palettes? > Can you show me one program that can create palletized PNGs with alpha > transparen

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Allie
Hi Leif Gregory, On 27/2/2005 11:59 AM, you wrote: > Remember Opera? They refused to improperly render HTML pages due to > sloppy markup. They caught flack over it for sure, but they stuck > to their guns. They're still very popular. The only reason Opera has remained popular is that it works.

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Mic Cullen
At 06:30 [GMT-0500] on Sunday February 27 (actual time - 7:30pm on Sunday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: MC>> If you have even a vague clue as to what you are doing, that statement is MC>> utterly false. > My monitor only shows 96 dpi, what is yours? The same, but my statement stands:

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Mic Cullen
At 10:03 [GMT-0700] on Sunday February 27 (actual time - 1:03am on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: GF>> I really don't care about other users, I care about my needs and GF>> if I can accomplish them with the software I'm using. > Exactly the poor attitude Tony, Paul and I are tryi

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Mic Cullen
At 09:59 [GMT-0700] on Sunday February 27 (actual time - 12:59am on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: GF>> It's part of the new era. RITLabs surely won't straighten up the GF>> usage of email, they must go along with the major players and the GF>> major players do have GOOD HTML supp

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Mic Cullen
At 19:07 [GMT+0100] on Sunday February 27 (actual time - 2:07am on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: >> Probably not a good reason, but I owned Agent before I knew of MyGate >> and I got used to it. > If it is _your_ reason, it is a good reason. Not a comment on this post specifica

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mary, A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 22:15:59 GMT +0100 MB> Can't stop :rofl2: -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature _

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mary, A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 22:15:59 GMT +0100 MB> and the sickening odor of Dead Horse I know, and all that hassle of having to put clean bed linen on. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s

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2005-02-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zondag 27 februari 2005 om 22:13 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'html whitelist wish' : Hallo Tony, GF>> ui ui ui estou a tremer cheio de medo! TB> Sorry, don't speak Klingon. whahahahahaa.. :-)) -- regards, Cees Coming soon: Windows for Nintendo!

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Tony! On Sunday, February 27, 2005, 3:05 PM, you wrote: > Tell you what Mary, Lief has been awfully quiet this past hour, hope he's > not arranging anything. Tony, The Name! Quick, fix it! Before he notices that you misspelled The Name!! > Now I really do think we should stop, there s

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Goncalo, A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 22:06:20 GMT +0100 GF> ui ui ui estou a tremer cheio de medo! Sorry, don't speak Klingon. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Crypto

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mary, A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 21:51:08 GMT +0100 MB> Oh, but he is! You just haven't been around long enough to know Leif MB> the way Tony does!! Tell you what Mary, Lief has been awfully quiet this past hour, hope he's not arranging anyth

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello The, TB> A reminder of what The Final Cut on TBBETA typed on: TB> 27 February 2005 at 21:44:40 GMT +0100 TFC>> hahahaha I hope you are not serious! TB> Do you see me laughing? TB> Can you see his rouge image? That little boy he's just abo

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mary, A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 21:51:08 GMT +0100 MB> Oh, but he is! You just haven't been around long enough to know Leif MB> the way Tony does!! Best stay out of it Mary, you don't want to put yourself at risk. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello The, A reminder of what The Final Cut on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 21:44:40 GMT +0100 TFC> hahahaha I hope you are not serious! Do you see me laughing? Can you see his rouge image? That little boy he's just about to throw off the cliff? I'm not risking that for the sake

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello The! On Sunday, February 27, 2005, 2:43 PM, you wrote: > hahahaha I hope you are not serious! Oh, but he is! You just haven't been around long enough to know Leif the way Tony does!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 __

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello David, A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 21:20:46 GMT +0100 DC> Oh, I agree 100%. I certainly want better IMAP support and for some DC> fixes to be made to the GnuPG (not PGP) support Not too long ago my host implemented IMAP. I've never used

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread The Final Cut
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tony Boom On Sunday, February 27, 2005, at 3:01:31 PM You wrote: TB> You laugh all you want but I have a wife and family whom I love very much TB> and I'm certainly not going to put them at risk for the sake of a html TB> argument, I'd rather

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Goncalo, A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 21:21:08 GMT +0100 GF> I can't understand why. Isn't the check box to enable/disable enough? In an ideal world yes, but you tick the box for one message and forget to untick it, what happens then? Achi

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> Old soldiers never die, TB> They just go on and on and on about the war :) Hmmm... I better start signing my emails! :) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Blessed our young they will inherit our national debt. __

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Goncalo, A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 21:18:50 GMT +0100 GF> Old soldiers never die, They just go on and on and on about the war :) -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : DC>> I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now' And as I've DC>> said before, I agree that bug fixes should come first. TB> I know, and you are right, html should be available for those that TB> want it. But can you see my point? Those of us tha

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: > Hello David, > > A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on: > 27 February 2005 at 21:02:53 GMT +0100 > > DC> I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now' And as I've said > DC> before, I agree that bug fixes should come first. > > I know, and you are

Re: moving folders

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Cees, A reminder of what Cees on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 21:08:00 GMT +0100 C> yes please and I won't complain if they forgot all about html. To be fair Cees html is used a hell of a lot and all differences aside it should be available to those that want it. I wou

Re: moving folders

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Cees wrote: > But seriously: I keep running into things... like, I just changed one > account to IMAP. My choice, but... I wanted to change the folder-order. > That USED to be possible with the combination of ALT+left mouse button, and > then drag but now: nothing happens! I'm

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : DC> Tony Boom wrote: >> Hello Leif, >> Also the reason I bowed out of the discussion. I want a bug free Bat >> before they make any new additions, they want html right now and Sod >> everyone else. DC> I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello Goncalo, TB> A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: TB> 27 February 2005 at 20:53:00 GMT +0100 GF>> ahahahahaha... TB> You laugh all you want but I have a wife and family whom I love very much TB> and I'm certainly not going

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello David, A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 21:02:53 GMT +0100 DC> I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now' And as I've said DC> before, I agree that bug fixes should come first. I know, and you are right, html should be available fo

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Leif Gregory wrote: > On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 13:15:41 [GMT -0500] (which was 11:15 AM where > I live) you wrote: > DC> Err, Wouldn't using the IE Engine be a big security hole? Gecko > DC> (From Firefox/Mozilla) would be a better idea. > Immensely accurate observation. None of us that want better

moving folders

2005-02-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zondag 27 februari 2005 om 21:02 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'html whitelist wish' : Hallo David, >> Also the reason I bowed out of the discussion. I want a bug free Bat >> before they make any new additions, they want html right now and Sod >> everyone else. DC> I don't think a

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: > Hello Leif, > Also the reason I bowed out of the discussion. I want a bug free Bat > before they make any new additions, they want html right now and Sod > everyone else. I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now' And as I've said before, I agree that bug fixes sh

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Goncalo, A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 20:53:00 GMT +0100 GF> ahahahahaha... You laugh all you want but I have a wife and family whom I love very much and I'm certainly not going to put them at risk for the sake of a html argument, I'd rat

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> I don't know and it really doesn't matter much, after all we're just GF>> expressing our points of view. TB> Just so long as it doesn't differ from his too much you should be OK now TB> drop it will you *please*! ahahahahaha... -- Best regards, G

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Goncalo, A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 20:40:38 GMT +0100 GF> I don't know and it really doesn't matter much, after all we're just GF> expressing our points of view. Just so long as it doesn't differ from his too much you should be OK now

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> You bet wrong. I'm not risking that, that's for sure. Now I think it best TB> we change the subject. I don't know and it really doesn't matter much, after all we're just expressing our points of view. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias 73% of stat

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MAU, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:03:05 +0100 GMT(2/27/2005, 1:03 PM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MAU wrote: > That was for MailTraq, much before MyGate was even developed. MyGate is > much more simple to install and configure and it just runs beautifully. > I switched from MailTraq to

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Goncalo, A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 20:29:19 GMT +0100 GF> I'll bet you're going to tell me... You bet wrong. I'm not risking that, that's for sure. Now I think it best we change the subject. Winters nearly over, Australian Grand Prix

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> Sure I do. He is the moderator. Did I said anything offensive? I GF>> didn't call lemming to anyone, did I? TB> It's not the moderator part that you need to worry about. Why do TB> you think NO ONE else is arguing with him least of all me? I'll bet

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Goncalo, A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 20:18:06 GMT +0100 GF> Sure I do. He is the moderator. Did I said anything offensive? I GF> didn't call lemming to anyone, did I? It's not the moderator part that you need to worry about. Why do y

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello Goncalo, TB> A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: TB> 27 February 2005 at 20:05:59 GMT +0100 GF>> I said exactly what he said. If he wants to be part of the solution GF>> fine, if not, please step aside... TB> You don't

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Goncalo, A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 20:05:59 GMT +0100 GF> I said exactly what he said. If he wants to be part of the solution GF> fine, if not, please step aside... You don't know who he is do you? -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello Goncalo, TB> A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: TB> 27 February 2005 at 19:48:59 GMT +0100 GF>> So, do me a favor, be part of the solution or else... TB> Oh dear, oh dear oh dear. Don't ya just love it when they get violen

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread MAU
Hello Greg, >> MyGate is not even a plugin, it's just a gateway. And as for HTML, I >> will not enter into the discussion. > > Ok now you have me thinking. IIRC didn't you publish a quite lengthy > installation for the MyGate plugin or was it MailTraq? > > If you used both which is better? That

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> Yeah, right. With less then 2% of market share the last time I GF>> saw some statistics their must be very popular. LG> Yeah, Mozilla based browsers are sucking up some serious market LG> share. Mozilla is not related to Opera, the example given

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Goncalo, A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 19:48:59 GMT +0100 GF> So, do me a favor, be part of the solution or else... Oh dear, oh dear oh dear. Don't ya just love it when they get violent because they're losing an argument :) -- Tony. Using

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> Isn't it exactly the same attitude you're exhibiting? Did anyone GF>> mandate you to define what is allowable or not in email usage? GF>> What feature can or cannot be included? What alternatives to GF>> current features can be implemented or no

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Goncalo, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 18:12:40 [GMT +] (which was 11:12 AM where I live) you wrote: GF> No comments. It doesn't apply. Lemming analogy. If others do it, it must be ok. Perfectly applicable. GF> Yeah, right. With less then 2% of market share the last time I saw GF> some statisti

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi David, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 13:15:41 [GMT -0500] (which was 11:15 AM where I live) you wrote: DC> Err, Wouldn't using the IE Engine be a big security hole? Gecko DC> (From Firefox/Mozilla) would be a better idea. Immensely accurate observation. -- Leif -:- TB Lists Moderator -:- PGP

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zondag 27 februari 2005 om 18:34 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'html whitelist wish' : Hallo Greg, GS> Ok now you have me thinking. IIRC didn't you publish a quite lengthy GS> installation for the MyGate plugin or was it MailTraq? GS> If you used both which is better? as always I'm

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB>> Also the reason I bowed out of the discussion. I want a bug free TB>> Bat before they make any new additions, they want html right now TB>> and Sod everyone else. TFC> Didnt you say earlier in the threat that this feature has been TFC> requested f

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Goncalo, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 18:16:42 [GMT +] (which was 11:16 AM where I live) you wrote: GF> Isn't it exactly the same attitude you're exhibiting? Did anyone GF> mandate you to define what is allowable or not in email usage? GF> What feature can or cannot be included? What alternative

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : DC> Goncalo Farias wrote: >> It's really easy then. They could provide us users a way to choose >> between the HTML internal engine or the IE engine. That way, everyone >> would be happy! :) DC> Err, Wouldn't using the IE Engine be a big security hole?

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zondag 27 februari 2005 om 18:19 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'html whitelist wish' : Hallo Greg, >> Cookidence... >> Tagline of the day: >> "deja moo," the feeling that you've heard this bull before. GS> ROFLMAO!!! Yeah! I stole that one immediately for my own taglinelist heh

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread The Final Cut
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tony Boom On Sunday, February 27, 2005, at 1:04:51 PM You wrote: TB> Also the reason I bowed out of the discussion. I want a bug free Bat TB> before they make any new additions, they want html right now and Sod TB> everyone else. Didnt you

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> I really don't care about other users, I care about my needs and GF>> if I can accomplish them with the software I'm using. LG> Exactly the poor attitude Tony, Paul and I are trying to curtail. LG> The completely selfish, me first attitude. Let th

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Goncalo Farias wrote: > It's really easy then. They could provide us users a way to choose > between the HTML internal engine or the IE engine. That way, everyone > would be happy! :) Err, Wouldn't using the IE Engine be a big security hole? Gecko (From Firefox/Mozilla) would be a better ide

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> It's part of the new era. RITLabs surely won't straighten up the GF>> usage of email, they must go along with the major players and the GF>> major players do have GOOD HTML support. LG> So if your friend jumps off a bridge, you're going to do it too?

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread MAU
Hello Greg, >> Why don't you use TB for newsgroups also? Works beautifully with MyGate. > > Probably not a good reason, but I owned Agent before I knew of MyGate > and I got used to it. If it is _your_ reason, it is a good reason. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using T

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> the misuse of the technology they were providing. Now they made GF>> it more secure (not perfectly secure) without cutting down the GF>> functionality that people had. LG> Sure they did. MS hosts a page listing hundreds of applications LG> they

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Leif, A reminder of what Leif Gregory on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 18:13:24 GMT +0100 LG> Exactly the poor attitude Tony, Paul and I are trying to curtail Also the reason I bowed out of the discussion. I want a bug free Bat before they make any new additions, they want htm

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MAU, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:54:57 +0100 GMT(2/27/2005, 10:54 AM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MAU wrote: > MyGate is not even a plugin, it's just a gateway. And as for HTML, I > will not enter into the discussion. Ok now you have me thinking. IIRC didn't you publish a quite length

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Thomas, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 10:52:59 [GMT +0700] (which was 8:52 PM where I live) you wrote: TF> I thinnk most have left, because we don't even get replies to TF> http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001762 It's sad too. Just in the time that I wrote my tutorial for

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Leif, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:03:03 -0700 GMT(2/27/2005, 11:03 AM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Leif Gregory wrote: > Cookidence... > > > -- > Leif -:- TB Lists Moderator -:- PGP Key ID 0x7CD4926F > > Tagline of the day: > "deja moo," the feeling that you've heard this bull b

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MAU, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:14:17 +0100 GMT(2/27/2005, 5:14 AM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MAU wrote: >> Because of the VA situation I moved on to TB for email, and use Agent >> for newsgroups. > Why don't you use TB for newsgroups also? Works beautifully with MyGate. Probably

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Goncalo, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 17:01:39 [GMT +] (which was 10:01 AM where I live) you wrote: GF> I really don't care about other users, I care about my needs and GF> if I can accomplish them with the software I'm using. Exactly the poor attitude Tony, Paul and I are trying to curtail. Th

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Goncalo, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 14:15:19 [GMT +] (which was 7:15 AM where I live) you wrote: GF> It's part of the new era. RITLabs surely won't straighten up the GF> usage of email, they must go along with the major players and the GF> major players do have GOOD HTML support. So if your f

Re[4]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : DH> Firstly, speed limits in cars is a weak argument. People know their DH> cars can go faster, they don't often know where security exploits are DH> in any operating system. And, your retort about Microsoft not knowing DH> how their technology could be misu

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread MAU
Hello Leif, > And see! That's a plugin. I'd completely bow out of the HTML > resistance movement if HTML support was done completely by plugin. MyGate is not even a plugin, it's just a gateway. And as for HTML, I will not enter into the discussion. If I receive an HTML e-mail and I want to see it

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Goncalo, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 15:51:37 [GMT +] (which was 8:51 AM where I live) you wrote: GF> I disagree. It's vulnerable because MS was unable to anticipate GF> the misuse of the technology they were providing. Now they made it GF> more secure (not perfectly secure) without cutting dow

Re[3]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Dennis Hays
Hello Goncalo, Sunday, February 27, 2005, 10:51:37 AM, you wrote: > In reply to : > I disagree. It's vulnerable because MS was unable to anticipate the > misuse of the technology they were providing. Now they made it more > secure (not perfectly secure) without c

Re: Alpha icons

2005-02-27 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Jernej, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 you wrote in JS> How does the image appear when you're editing it - the background should be JS> checkered, and the size of checkers should not change when you zoom in/out. Yup, exactly that. What I can't understand is, if I have changed

Re: Download new Beta?

2005-02-27 Thread Vadim Yavorsky
Good evening, Sunday, February 27, 2005, 6:48:29 PM, you wrote: muo> where to download this new beta? " Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha" ? i muo> cann't found on new beta pages. Stefan write to this list at Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:37:33 +0200 ===

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : LG> Hi Goncalo, LG> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 14:07:07 [GMT +] (which was 7:07 AM where LG> I live) you wrote: GF>> I'm sure you manage to get a better justification! LG> Let's expound a bit on this though Goncalo. Why exactly is it that LG> IE is so

Download new Beta?

2005-02-27 Thread milis
where to download this new beta? " Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha" ? i cann't found on new beta pages. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To regi

Re: Alpha icons

2005-02-27 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Sunday, February 27, 2005, 14:56:48, Richard Wakeford wrote: > No luck still. All it's done is boosted the size of the file from 120 to > 156kb! How does the image appear when you're editing it - the background should be checkered, and the size of checkers should not change when you zoom in/ou

Re: OT Re: Alpha icons

2005-02-27 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Sunday, February 27, 2005, 14:41:29, Krzysztof Trybowski wrote: > Are you saying that PSP still doesn't support alpha channel with > palettes? Can you show me one program that can create palletized PNGs with alpha transparency? The only one I know of is an old DOS compile of PNMTOPNG fro

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Goncalo, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 14:07:07 [GMT +] (which was 7:07 AM where I live) you wrote: GF> If it's something you can switch on or off then you're in no more GF> danger than being alive. GF> I'm sure you manage to get a better justification! Let's expound a bit on this though Goncal

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi MAU, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 12:14:17 [GMT +0100] (which was 4:14 AM where I live) you wrote: M> Why don't you use TB for newsgroups also? Works beautifully with M> MyGate. And see! That's a plugin. I'd completely bow out of the HTML resistance movement if HTML support was done completely by p

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Greg, On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, at 22:09:57 [GMT -0600] (which was 9:09 PM where I live) you wrote: GS> This thread is really about opinions. Everyone has one. :-) Hey, you forgot to type out the rest of that saying! GS> This is a very important point which should not be lost in the GS> debate ab

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : LG> If it's an e-mail function, then go for it. I'd just much rather LG> have RITLabs sink 200 hours into IMAP rather than HTML LG> functionality. IMAP belongs to e-mail, HTML doesn't. It's part of the new era. RITLabs surely won't straighten u

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Krzysztof Trybowski
Hello Tony, On Saturday, February 26, 2005 you wrote: > 3 months time, The Bat has the best html engine of any email client > available... Still no working flawless IMAP ability but great comic book > features. Hands up all those who are going to be jumping for joy and hands > up all those are

Re[3]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : PVN> Agreed. Gee-whiz functionality at the expense of privacy and PVN> security is too high of a price for me to pay. I do object to PVN> others taking risks if doing so has an impact on others. PVN> Irresponsibility begins as soon we

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : A> Hi Paul, A> On 27/2/2005 6:21 AM, you wrote: A> At least not for the foreseeable future. Most clients with very A> good HTML mail displaying capabilities either use the IE rendering A> engine or are part of an established browser, i.e., Operamail

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Allie, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 07:07:44 [GMT -0500] (which was 5:07 AM where I live) you wrote: A> Yeah. A good technical argument rather than all the other A> philosophical and hyped ones that I had seen until then. Well, philosophically, I don't want it either! A> OTOH, one wonders, why im

Re: Alpha icons

2005-02-27 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Jernej, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 you wrote in JS> PSP9 should work. Just make sure that you don't flatten the image, and if JS> you use PNG Optimizer, you have to use 16.7 Million Colors, Alpha Channel JS> Transparency and Existing image transparency settings. No luck st

Re[3]: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available

2005-02-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zondag 27 februari 2005 om 14:38 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available' : Hallo Cees, >>> Another thing I miss is the conter in the comlumns for total and >>> unread messages CF>> Will not show up here either, the counter does not work. C> that's odd

Re: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available

2005-02-27 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Feli, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 you wrote in FW> Another thing I miss is the conter in the comlumns for total and FW> unread messages (see png) Gosh, I have always had those columns in the account tree (where they work with me). -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.1 D

OT Re: Alpha icons

2005-02-27 Thread Krzysztof Trybowski
Hello Jernej, On Sunday, February 27, 2005 you wrote: > if you use PNG Optimizer, you have to use 16.7 Million Colors, Alpha > Channel Transparency and Existing image transparency settings. Are you saying that PSP still doesn't support alpha channel with palettes? I thought they were suppo

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Paul! On Sunday, February 27, 2005, 7:26 AM, you wrote: MB>> Note, however, that I do not object to others accepting more risk than MB>> I do. :) > Agreed. Gee-whiz functionality at the expense of privacy and security > is too high of a price for me to pay. I do object to others taking > r

Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available

2005-02-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zondag 27 februari 2005 om 14:33 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available' : Hallo Charlene, >> Another thing I miss is the conter in the comlumns for total and >> unread messages CF> Will not show up here either, the counter does not work. that's odd...

Re: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available

2005-02-27 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Feli Wilcke, Sunday, February 27, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : > Another thing I miss is the conter in the comlumns for total and > unread messages Will not show up here either, the counter does not work. -- regards Charlene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :star: _

Re: Alpha icons

2005-02-27 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Sunday, February 27, 2005, 12:34:03, Richard Wakeford wrote: > Paint Shop Pro version 9. So do I need to save the whole file as an > alpha channel? I just did the alterations straight into the png file as > it shows, didn't select anything. PSP9 should work. Just make sure that you don't flatt

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