Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:08:20 +1000 GMT (17/Jun/10, 13:08 PM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW> So, you can see, the road to subscriptions can be quite rocky. It IAW> gives the software vendor a somewhat better revenue stream (no IAW> issues with that), however it does also demand mor

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello F.P., On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:18:36 +0200 GMT (15/Jun/10, 23:18 PM +0700 GMT), F.P. wrote: >> The registration system will be changed. We didn’t yet completely >> figured out the final changes to the registration system, but the >> preliminary changes are the following: registration will all

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dierk, On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:21:57 +0200 GMT (14/Jun/10, 14:21 PM +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: >> Or will his current version stop working? DH> You mean as with all other programs sold on a 1-year DH> investment-into-the-future basis? No, I meant with *this* program. I mistakenly assu

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:07:14 +0300 GMT (14/Jun/10, 18:07 PM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: >> So the version the user has when the subscription expires will >> continue to work and he will just not be able to upgrade? Or will his >> current version stop working? MM> The user wi

Re: Editing the subject line

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:21:46 -0500 GMT (13/Jun/10, 2:21 AM +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: >> I'm not sure I said anything about IMAP (I don't use it anyway), but >> TBBETA seems to be slow because of the rewrite. DC> I'm sure you did not mention IMAP. But you mentioned it was

Re: New versions of The Bat!

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:45:36 +0300 GMT (13/Jun/10, 23:45 PM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM> The new version will be version 5.0. MM> The registration system will be changed. We didn’t yet completely MM> figured out the final changes to the registration system, but the MM> preli

HTML mails (was:: Did I miss the funeral?)

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:28:48 -0500 GMT (13/Jun/10, 2:28 AM +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: >> A normal HTML viewer. I dont want to send examples. Ritlabs should >> install an Outlook and go over like a 1000 HTML mails. When TB >> matches up to Outlook for all of them, then the job

HTML mails (was: Did I miss the funeral?)

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Feli, On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:58:21 +0200 GMT (13/Jun/10, 15:58 PM +0700 GMT), Feli Wilcke wrote: JW>> Look, I receive electronic plane tickets that I even hesitate to read JW>> in TB. I certainly would never print them from TB. Yes, there is a JW>> workaround. I can open them in my Web brow

Re: Did I miss the funeral?

2010-06-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili, On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:47:46 +0100 GMT (11/Jun/10, 16:47 PM +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: >> BTW I do not know, what You think about HTML support, what are You missing >> in version 4? V> A normal HTML viewer. I dont want to send examples. Ritlabs should V> install an O[xxx]k and go over l

Re: Did I miss the funeral?

2010-06-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Robert, On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:45:10 +0200 GMT (11/Jun/10, 20:45 PM +0700 GMT), Robert van der Hulst wrote: >> BTW I do not know, what You think about HTML support, what are You missing >> in version 4? RvdH> An easy way to show all images in the current email (something like Outlook RvdH

Re: Editing the subject line

2010-06-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:58:15 -0500 GMT (10/Jun/10, 23:58 PM +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: R>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 DC> I see we meet again on this topic. You are right that the IMAP DC> rewrite is a very good time to finally correct this longtime

Re: Editing the subject line

2010-06-09 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Rick, On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:22:02 -0400 GMT (09/Jun/10, 23:22 PM +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R> I have had this out there for quite a while but since we have new R> people, perhaps they are willing to support it Good idea to bring this up again. R> I would like to see the ability to edit the

Re: TB! keeps sending the same message

2010-05-31 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof, On Mon, 31 May 2010 09:39:32 +0200 GMT (31/May/10, 14:39 PM +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: FS>> Please change the address from fzschoe...@t-online.de to the new address: FS>> fzschoe...@ymail.com RO> You're supposed to do that yourself at RO> https://hosting.0x539.de/mailman/optio

Re: Check Mail At Startup -- still broken

2010-05-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Wed, 12 May 2010 16:27:04 +0200 GMT (12/May/10, 21:27 PM +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: >> The "Check Mail At Startup" setting has been flaky >> for at least the past few builds. M> For quite a few builds. See this BT report from 26-Apr-2007 M> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6351

Re: syncing contacts from address book

2010-04-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vilius, On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:43:26 +0300 GMT (23/Apr/10, 1:43 AM +0700 GMT), Vilius Šumskas wrote: >> 2 words: More details? :) VŠ> RunaLDAPserver in your organization or at home VŠ> (http://www.brennan.id.au/20-Shared_Address_Book_LDAP.html), or buy LDAP service

Re: syncing contacts from address book

2010-04-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Carsten, On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:42:54 +0200 GMT (22/Apr/10, 21:42 PM +0700 GMT), Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: CGS> If nothing like this exists, which I'm afraid is probably the CGS> case, may I ask how you guys synchronise your contacts with CGS> cellphones, webmail or other mobile device

Re: 4.2.33.9

2010-03-31 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:43:51 +0200 GMT (31/Mar/10, 23:43 PM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: >> What's new in 4.2.33.9 since 4.2.33.8: >> [-] Fixed the TLS bug of 4.2.33.8 MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42339.rar MM> is better :-) Up&Running. :-) -- Che

Re: 4.2.33.8 - Trashing

2010-03-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Rick, On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:01:10 -0400 GMT (30/Mar/10, 6:01 AM +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R>>> Try it with a RAR file also. I just reinstalled the new version R>>> and sent myself some graphics successfully. I sent myself one of my R>>> daily sends that includes a JPG and an RAR and they cam

Re: 4.2.33.8 - Trashing

2010-03-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Rick, On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:19:51 -0400 GMT (29/Mar/10, 23:19 PM +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R>>> This version seems to be trashing outgoing files. I get certain R>>> emails back from Yahoo groups and my morning mailings of JPGS and RARs were totally trashed >> Define trashing - this beta is

Re: 4.2.33.8

2010-03-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:40:37 +0200 GMT (29/Mar/10, 16:40 PM +0700 GMT), Mark Partous wrote: MM>> What's new in 4.2.33.8 since last beta: MM>> [-] (#0007906) Connection centre stays open (issue with downloading images via https connections) MP> Can this one officialy be called the "T

Re: 4.2.33.8 ConCent not closing

2010-03-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck, On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 02:23:57 +0100 GMT (29/Mar/10, 8:23 AM +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: M>> [-] (#0007906) Connection centre stays open (issue with M>> downloading images via https connections) MP> I'm not seeing this issue as fixed. MP> https downloads are still not succeed

Re: 4.2.33.8

2010-03-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 01:30:03 +0300 GMT (29/Mar/10, 5:30 AM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM> The Bat! 4.2.33.8 is available at MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42338.rar MM> What's new in 4.2.33.8 since last beta: MM> [-] (#0007906) Connection centre st

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 01:32:37 +0300 GMT (29/Mar/10, 5:32 AM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: >>>When do you reckon the beta with this fix will be available for >>>download? MM> Today I have taken the source code from 09-Feb-2010 and only MM> included the fix related to https image d

Re: 4.2.33.8 - Trashing

2010-03-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Rick, On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:06:48 -0400 GMT (29/Mar/10, 22:06 PM +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: >> The Bat! 4.2.33.8 is available at >> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42338.rar >> What's new in 4.2.33.8 since last beta: >> [-] (#0007906) Connection centre stays open (issue

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 03:03:43 +0200 GMT (28/Mar/10, 8:03 AM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: >> I won't download the first beta with the IMAP changes, I'll leave that >> to the people who use IMAP and will deal with the new bugs. I do need >> this new beta bug to be fixed though. Any ch

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 01:27:54 +0100 GMT (28/Mar/10, 7:27 AM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: MM>>> I am sure, check who resolved it ;-) >> >> I checked, but this is the first time I hear Mr. Tsurcanovsky's name. MM> if You want to know, Igor wrote new spellchecking system in v4.0 for M

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:12:59 +0100 GMT (27/Mar/10, 19:12 PM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: >> I read at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7906 that the bug has >> been fixed and the status been changed to resolved (without the step >> verify => wait for beta testing in between)

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Max, On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:28:31 +0700 GMT (13/Mar/10, 7:28 AM +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: >>>>Sure. If you need offending messages for testing, these can be >>>>provided. In fact, this has been offered already. MM>> Thank you, please export them to

Re: Is the list still working?

2010-03-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck, Monday, March 22, 2010, 9:23:55 PM, you wrote: MP> Had a report that the list was not responding. This is a probe MP> message to see if that's the case... I have received your posting, which was the first since Morton's message on 17. March. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fern

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:53:26 +1100 GMT (16/Mar/10, 6:53 AM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW> So far, all the instances where this has occurred (at least on my IAW> system) is where something has to be retrieved by the URL Manager when IAW> the URL is a https link. There is not a pr

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:31:00 -0600 GMT (13/Mar/10, 8:31 AM +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: >> Done. I do believe it has to do with your settings in URL manager >> though, whether the problem occurs. DC> DC> I find this paragraph confusing. Whose settings? DC> The user's. In m

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:34:10 +0200 GMT (12/Mar/10, 20:34 PM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: >>>Sure. If you need offending messages for testing, these can be >>>provided. In fact, this has been offered already. MM> Thank you, please export them to eml, then ZIP them and add to MM>

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:45:45 +0200 GMT (12/Mar/10, 19:45 PM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: Thanks for your reply. >>>Ritlabs could acknowledge the bug and say, "it will be fixed in two >>>weeks so please wait, because we are now working on IMAP". They do no >>>such thing, they ju

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:28:59 +0100 GMT (11/Mar/10, 22:28 PM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: >> What I request is communication. (I do miss 9Val.) >> Ritlabs could acknowledge the bug and say, "it will be fixed in two >> weeks so please wait, because we are now working on IMAP". They

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:56:29 +0100 GMT (11/Mar/10, 21:56 PM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: >> It hasn't even been assigned yet: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7906 MM> check BT what is going on right now MM> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ I see there that they are working o

Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?

2010-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:21:09 +1100 GMT (25/Feb/10, 3:21 AM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: GP>> It might help if somebody could come up with an offending email to send them. So far, the GP>> ones I have seen are payment received notices from paypal. Other paypal messages don't GP>>

Re: Connection centre stays open trying to contact sns3.rsys3.net

2010-02-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:20:49 +1100 GMT (17/Feb/10, 5:20 AM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: TF>> You mentioned it first. Will you do the honours and create a BT entry? IAW> As I started this in the discussion list, here is the BT report. IAW> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=790

Re: Connection centre stays open trying to contact sns3.rsys3.net

2010-02-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Costas, On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:08:12 +0200 GMT (16/Feb/10, 2:08 AM +0700 GMT), Costas Papadopoulos wrote: >> Seems to be a beta bug, though. I didn't have the problem with the >> release version. CP> I confirm having a similar problem with an email that I received from CP> Paypal. I menti

Re: Connection centre stays open trying to contact sns3.rsys3.net

2010-02-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gleason, On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:28:14 -0500 GMT (16/Feb/10, 2:28 AM +0700 GMT), Gleason wrote: >>> Seems to be a beta bug, though. I didn't have the problem with the >>> release version. >> I confirm having a similar problem with an email that I received from >> Paypal. I mentioned this a

Re: Connection centre stays open trying to contact sns3.rsys3.net

2010-02-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA, On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:10:16 + GMT (15/Feb/10, 11:10 AM +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: IAW>>> For the past couple of days I have had the IAW>>> Connection Centre stay open with it trying to IAW>>> contact sns3.rsys3.net. IAW>>> [...] IAW>>> AnY ideas as to what this is and what could b

Re: 4.2.33.7

2010-02-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 23:38:01 +0100 GMT (06/Feb/10, 5:38 AM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: MM> Hello all, MM> Friday, February 5, 2010, Maxim Masiutin wrote: >> The Bat! 4.2.33.7 Beta is available at >> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42337.rar >> What's new i

Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement

2010-02-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Feli, On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:25:57 +0100 GMT (09/Feb/10, 16:25 PM +0700 GMT), Feli Wilcke wrote: PVN>>> Do you want TB to use IE to render HTML like so many others? TF>> Are we discussing again whether or not TB! should display HTML? FW> I agree with you that TB should display HTML. But th

Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement

2010-02-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:21:32 +0100 GMT (08/Feb/10, 23:21 PM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: >> In other words, I want to *use* this email client rather than be >> informed why I can't properly read emails, or who is in charge. It's >> all one company and one product. Get it done or die

Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement

2010-02-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:34:16 +0100 GMT (08/Feb/10, 22:34 PM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: >> Hm. The result is still not satisfactory. Maybe the developers must >> look further than charsets? MM> as I expect, they will work on it, but different developer and different MM> time. As i

Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement

2010-02-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:08:01 +0100 GMT (08/Feb/10, 22:08 PM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: MM>>> is there a UTF-8 problem in this message? >> I don't know what causes the problem. MM> I see no charset problem, it is written in English. OK. MM>>> what is bad? >> The display. Pleas

Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement

2010-02-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:15:24 +0100 GMT (08/Feb/10, 21:15 PM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: MM>>> What's new in 4.2.33.7 since 4.2.33.5: MM>>> [*] Completely rewritten HTML display code to address issues related MM>>> to utf-8. Although this version is taged "beta", it may reall

Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement

2010-02-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Paul, On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:03:27 -0500 GMT (08/Feb/10, 19:03 PM +0700 GMT), Paul Van Noord wrote: TF>> We covered the discussion whether emails should be in HTML in the last TF>> century. Let's accept the fact that we cannot change the world and TF>> work on a solution for TheBat!. PVN> D

Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement

2010-02-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Paul, On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:18:32 -0500 GMT (08/Feb/10, 5:18 AM +0700 GMT), Paul Van Noord wrote: TF>> Well. It's an HTML email, and while I expect that some images don't TF>> donwload if I don't allow it to, the rest (colours, frames, lay-out) TF>> should display correctly. PVN> TF>> Whi

Re: Links in imagemaps don't work

2010-02-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello mse, On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:55:27 +0100 GMT (07/Feb/10, 18:55 PM +0700 GMT), mse wrote: m> can anyone confirm that link in HTML-mails, which are defined as a m> clickable area on top of an image cannot be clicked? m> I attached a sample message from Paypal: The three links in the first m>

Re: URL manager problem (HTML formatted email)

2010-02-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Costas, On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:50:36 +0200 GMT (07/Feb/10, 16:50 PM +0700 GMT), Costas Papadopoulos wrote: CP> In version 4.2.33.3 and 4.2.33.7 the Connection Center remains CP> constantly open and it's trying to access a website related to an HTML CP> formatted email that I received

Re: 4.2.33.7 - HTML dispaly

2010-02-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:30:09 +0100 GMT (07/Feb/10, 17:30 PM +0700 GMT), Mark Partous wrote: TF>> But what about the display? Does the mail display well on TF>> your machine? MP> No it doesn't. Furthermore, but perhaps that has to do with MP> the way you sent it, even when I choos

Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement

2010-02-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Paul, On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:33:39 -0500 GMT (07/Feb/10, 20:33 PM +0700 GMT), Paul Van Noord wrote: TF>> The attached email displayed bad in the previous version, and there is TF>> no improvement. PVN> It is designed for a browser! Well. It's an HTML email, and while I expect that some ima

Re: 4.2.33.7 Missing in Taskbar

2010-02-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens, On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:09:54 +0100 GMT (07/Feb/10, 6:09 AM +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: >>> The Bat! 4.2.33.7 Beta >> It is not in the Windows Bar of XP any more, maybe after switching to >> another application or doing minimize - the Bat Window is not shown >> any more, only th

Re: 4.2.33.7 - HTML dispaly

2010-02-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:32:09 +0100 GMT (06/Feb/10, 23:32 PM +0700 GMT), Mark Partous wrote: TF>> I don't write other emails (please provide reference). MP> In you add a MP> newsletter with a link to: http://www.world-of-halal.com/ OK, you're. I didn't read that email, the ugliness o

Re: 4.2.33.7

2010-02-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:33:43 +0100 GMT (06/Feb/10, 21:33 PM +0700 GMT), Mark Partous wrote: TF>> It's running here. Please don't give us the CYA sermon about TF>> pre-alpha. It's a beta, I hope. MP> Eaten too much food made from brutally slaughtered animals (see your other mail)? :-

Re: 4.2.33.7

2010-02-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 00:11:07 +0200 GMT (06/Feb/10, 5:11 AM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM> The Bat! 4.2.33.7 Beta is available at MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42337.rar MM> What's new in 4.2.33.7 since 4.2.33.5: MM> [*] Completely rewritten HTML d

Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement

2010-02-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 00:11:07 +0200 GMT (06/Feb/10, 5:11 AM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM> The Bat! 4.2.33.7 Beta is available at MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42337.rar MM> What's new in 4.2.33.7 since 4.2.33.5: MM> [*] Completely rewritten HTML d

Re: The Bat! 4.2.24.4 - Alpha or beta?

2010-01-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:39:45 +0200 GMT (30/Jan/10, 0:39 AM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: >>>Alpha testing is done in-house right after coding something new or >>>trying to fix a bug; it's done in-house as it may have new bugs or the >>>fix doesn't work. MM> Alpha testing is no

Re: Voyager 4.2.25

2010-01-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:27:33 +0200 GMT (30/Jan/10, 0:27 AM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: >>>Does it allow plaintext as an alternative to OTFE? MM> Not yet. We are now focused on the new IMAP. OK. So I'll wait before testing. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-ga

Re: Voyager 4.2.25

2010-01-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:58:11 +0200 GMT (29/Jan/10, 23:58 PM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM> Voyager 4.2.25 is available at MM> www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install_4-2-25.exe MM> What's new in Voyager 4.2.25 since Voyager 4.2.15: Does it allow plaintext as

Re: The Bat! 4.2.24.4 - Alpha or beta?

2010-01-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:28:43 +0200 GMT (29/Jan/10, 13:28 PM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM> The Bat! 4.2.24.4 Alpha is available at MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42244.rar When do we get to BETA testing? MM> What's new in 4.2.24.4 since 4.2.24.3: M

Re: HTML editor is ridiculous (was: De rust keert terug in januarie.. )

2010-01-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gleason, On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:15:41 -0500 GMT (27/Jan/10, 2:15 AM +0700 GMT), Gleason wrote: >> That's your privilege. I can't afford it, I have to reply in HTML to >> business HTML messages, especially those containing tables >> and/or pictures. >> TB! is far behind current expected beh

Re: HTML editor is ridiculous (was: De rust keert terug in januarie.. )

2010-01-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:33:04 +0100 GMT (27/Jan/10, 0:33 AM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: >> My suggestion is to reduce the ugly blue bar to a small sqiggly line by >> default. MM> solution is changing table to blockquote, current behaviour is unfriendly MM> for replying to part of

Re: HTML editor is ridiculous (was: De rust keert terug in januarie.. )

2010-01-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
too? On Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 10:46:56 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Dwight, Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:13:25 PM, you wrote: That's what HTML was invented for. To make mails colourful. OK, there is no reason to overdo it, like we are doing now. If word goes out, Incred

HTML editor is ridiculous (was: De rust keert terug in januarie.. )

2010-01-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
ut then, who do I know. My suggestion is to reduce the ugly blue bar to a small sqiggly line by default. On Monday, January 25, 2010, 8:32:54 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Wow, consider the possibilities. Too bad it doesn't work like the MicroEd editor in these boxes. and that the text bac

Re: De rust keert terug in januarie..

2010-01-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Volker, On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:15:11 +0100 GMT (26/Jan/10, 2:15 AM +0700 GMT), Volker Ahrendt wrote: See here the previous discussion [Reply to: »Dwight Corrin« · 2010-01-25 · 18:55 h (CET)] Moin, Dwight! And you can write some text in it ? On Monday, January 25, 2010, 11:48:10 AM, Mark

Re: De rust keert terug in januarie.. / HTML editor

2010-01-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:53:33 +0100 GMT (25/Jan/10, 22:53 PM +0700 GMT), Mark Partous wrote: Hello Dwight, Monday, January 25, 2010, 4:43:05 PM, you wrote: you can make it thinner by hovering with the mouse over the right margin of it and dragging to the left. better is to elimi

Re: Messages disappear with update

2010-01-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens, On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:46:35 +0100 GMT (25/Jan/10, 20:46 PM +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: F>>> in one of my Accounts, hundreds of Mails disappeared after Upgrade JF>>> from 4.2.18 to 4.2.23. It is not possible to restore them with Backup. >> Have you tried Folder / Maintenance C

Re: Messages disappear with update

2010-01-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens, On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:16:24 +0100 GMT (25/Jan/10, 18:16 PM +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: JF> in one of my Accounts, hundreds of Mails disappeared after Upgrade JF> from 4.2.18 to 4.2.23. It is not possible to restore them with Backup. Have you tried Folder / Maintenance Center

Re: 4.2.23 MSI

2010-01-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:01:10 +0200 GMT (24/Jan/10, 23:01 PM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: >>>Oh. Is this necessary? Would it be possible to just remove (or not >>>load) the plugin that causes the problem? MM> No, it is hard to precisely determine which of the plugins causes MM>

Re: 4.2.23 MSI

2010-01-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:41:35 +0200 GMT (24/Jan/10, 15:41 PM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: >>>This version lost all my plugins - AV avast and antispam - when I try to >>>add antispam I got AV and TB! crashes. MM> I think the problem is related to a faulty plugin. If a plugin MM

Fwd: AV when forwarding

2010-01-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Testing with 4.2.21.1 This is a forwarded message From: Roelof Otten To: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com CC: BCC: Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 10:14:09 PM Subject: AV when forwarding ===8<==Original message text=== Hallo tbbeta, Had an AV on trying to forward a message

Re: Здравствуйте

2009-12-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Sergey, On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:10:17 +0300 GMT (26/Dec/09, 19:10 PM +0700 GMT), Sergey Voronov wrote: >> Hi there too. Merry Christmas on this English-language list. :-) SV> Sorry, the letter was sent by accident. That's not a serious accident. SV> Everyone a Merry Christmas and new year

Re:

2009-12-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Sergey, On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:48:25 +0300 GMT (25/Dec/09, 21:48 PM +0700 GMT), Sergey Voronov wrote: SV> Здравствуйте, Tbbeta. Здравствуйте Explanation: Zdravsvujte is the official form, when "Privet" is like "Hi", e.g. non-formal. Source: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_russian/othe

Re: 4.2.14.2 HTML rendering

2009-12-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:40:01 +0200 GMT (25/Dec/09, 0:40 AM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM> The Bat! 4.2.14.2 BETA is available at MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42142.rar MM> What's new in 4.2.14.2 since 4.2.13.8 released on 19-Dec-2009? MM> [-] (#0

Re: Voyager Alpha 4.2.13.9 - non-OTFE?

2009-12-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:23:46 +0200 GMT (24/Dec/09, 1:23 AM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: >>>I would try it if you told me I now have a choice and can install it >>>in plain (non-OTFE) mode. Kindly advise. MM> We will do that in some future version. Thank you. I will watch out f

Re: Font changes

2009-12-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jernej, On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:36:05 +0100 GMT (23/Dec/09, 0:36 AM +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: >>> No. If the font doesn't have an Unicode table, it's assumed to be >>> CP1252 >> Why? I'm sure you can point me to something. JS> Historical reasons (read: fonts from the Windows 3.x er

Re: Voyager Alpha 4.2.13.9

2009-12-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:50:32 +0200 GMT (21/Dec/09, 0:50 AM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM> Voyager Alpha 4.2.13.9 is available at MM> www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/voyager_install_4-2-13-9.exe MM> What's new since Voyager 4.2.9.3 released on 23-Jul-2009? MM

Re: Font changes

2009-12-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:45:13 +1100 GMT (23/Dec/09, 3:45 AM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: TF>> I view as HTML. How can I tell whether the large P is Webdings 36 or TF>> Arial 36? IAW> The first is that it is a graphic character and not a P as in a text IAW> character. IAW> The othe

Re: Font changes

2009-12-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jernej, On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:07:50 +0100 GMT (22/Dec/09, 23:07 PM +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: >> Improperly assumed, you mean. If it's changed, it's wrong. JS> No. If the font doesn't have an Unicode table, it's assumed to be JS> CP1252 Why? I'm sure you can point me to something

Re: Font changes

2009-12-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:40:16 +1100 GMT (22/Dec/09, 10:40 AM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: R>> It's Arial 36 followed by Arial 12 which are MY defaults IAW> If viewed as HTML, then it should Webdings 36 followed by Courier New IAW> 12. I view as HTML. How can I tell whether the lar

Re: Font changes

2009-12-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jernej, On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:10:53 +0100 GMT (22/Dec/09, 15:10 PM +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: >> There are some weird things happening with fonts. Things that worked before >> now don't. JS> My guess is I'd prefer a word from the developers rather than a guessing game. JS> that

Re: Voyager Alpha 4.2.13.9 Menu Navigator

2009-12-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:41:10 +0100 GMT (21/Dec/09, 4:41 AM +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: MM> I am totally against new experimental Menu Navigator placed directly MM> in Menu toolbar in all dialogs, personally I hate it here. I like it there. Sorry... -- Cheers, Thomas. http://t

Re: 4.2.13.8 HTML rendering

2009-12-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stefan, On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:03:32 +0200 GMT (19/Dec/09, 17:03 PM +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: ST> What's new in 4.2.13.8 since 4.2.13.7: Bug 0007775: Impropering rendering of some HTML images: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7775 Seems to be fixed over here. Any confirmati

Re: buggy QTs

2009-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Neal, On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:20:04 -0800 GMT (20/Sep/09, 4:20 AM +0700 GMT), Neal Laugman wrote: NL> Software development is a precarious job of walking a marketing NL> tightrope. For a certain product or product group there can be an NL> easily sustainable market segment if you keep yourse

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Carsten, On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:02:07 +0200 GMT (20/Sep/09, 1:02 AM +0700 GMT), Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: >> While I don't agree that POP is the past, CGS> Why not? There is general agreement that mobility is the future, CGS> everything goes mobile. People (will) access their email f

Re: HTML Editor: Text background colour is not properly terminated

2009-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jean-Michel, On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:03:26 +0200 GMT (20/Sep/09, 0:03 AM +0700 GMT), Jean-Michel Saby wrote: JMS>>> I just made a quick experiment aimed at 'properly terminate' the background JMS>>> color: JMS> ... >> ... Please do make sure to add the solution to the BT >> entry. JMS> I d

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:36:08 +0300 GMT (18/Sep/09, 16:36 PM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: >>>I meanwhile submitted it to Bugtrack: >>>https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7723 MM> Thank you very much, but we won't fix anything in the current MM> IMAP implementation. LOL! "we

Re: buggy QTs

2009-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Kertész, On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:47:26 +0159 GMT (17/Sep/09, 17:48 PM +0700 GMT), Kertész Vilmos wrote: KV> Why bother to add a note. Nothing will happen. I became apathetic over KV> the last year. I dont believe TB is going somewhere, I dont see any KV> signs. I WOULD LIKE to see the signs

Re: HTML Editor: Text background colour is not properly terminated

2009-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jean-Michel, On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:07:48 +0200 GMT (18/Sep/09, 0:07 AM +0700 GMT), Jean-Michel Saby wrote: JMS> I just made a quick experiment aimed at 'properly terminate' the background JMS> color: JMS> Attached, you will find 'ThebatMessage.html' which is a copy of my JMS> original mes

Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox

2009-09-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:48:18 +1000 GMT (13/Sep/09, 3:48 AM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: TF>> I'm thinking about an algorithm that makes the editor stick to the TF>> template but the rest of the template be ignored... difficult, to say TF>> the least. You get the point. IAW> I have

Re: shortcut editor broken

2009-09-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 06:20:44 +0200 GMT (12/Sep/09, 11:20 AM +0700 GMT), Mark Partous wrote: TF>> I have tried Evolution and missed the folders and filters that make my TF>> email exerience with TB! so powerfully easy. However, everybody has TF>> different ways of working. MP> I did n

Re: shortcut editor broken

2009-09-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:26:57 +0200 GMT (12/Sep/09, 18:26 PM +0700 GMT), Mark Partous wrote: MP> Oh well, everyone uses whatever suits him/her best and by no means I am MP> implying that TB! cannot be improved. Personally I think that the software MP> world has missed

Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox

2009-09-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:30:41 -0500 GMT (12/Sep/09, 8:30 AM +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: >> But the logic of your problem is this: When you create the message, >> the folder/AB template applies with regards to the editor. If you >> reopen it from the editor, TB! forgets about tha

Re: shortcut editor broken

2009-09-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Carsten, On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:36:36 +0200 GMT (11/Sep/09, 14:36 PM +0700 GMT), Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: CGS> Every couple of years I give Thunderbird and Outlook a try, but CGS> so far I have always returned to The Bat. Next week I will set up CGS> a new system and Thunderbird will

Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox

2009-09-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:27:38 +1000 GMT (11/Sep/09, 13:27 PM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: TF>> I'm thinking about an algorithm that makes the editor stick to the TF>> template but the rest of the template be ignored... difficult, to say TF>> the least. You get the point. IAW> But it

Re: shortcut editor broken

2009-09-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:36:00 +0159 GMT (11/Sep/09, 15:37 PM +0700 GMT), Mark Partous wrote: HMdB>> Sorry for stepping in. I am using Thunderbird as some sort of backup for HMdB>> GPG and must say that I am beginning to like the program more and more ;-) MP> I, on the contrary, even

Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox

2009-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello list, On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:58:36 +0700 GMT (10/Sep/09, 23:58 PM +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF> But the logic of your problem is this: When you create the message, TF> the folder/AB template applies with regards to the editor. If you TF> reopen it from the editor, TB

Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox

2009-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:57:21 +1000 GMT (10/Sep/09, 10:57 AM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW> I prepared a message to the list and tried to use delayed sending. It IAW> did not work (surprise, surprise), so I went to the outbox and IAW> double-clicked the message to edit it. Well,

Re: shortcut editor broken

2009-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Carsten, On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:47:35 +0200 GMT (10/Sep/09, 18:47 PM +0700 GMT), Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: >> I can confirm that it is broken here. CGS> @Ritlabs: This is a new bug that was just introduced recently, CGS> it worked not so long ago. Please fix the Customise funciton

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