Re: Edit as new
It's not right click on the message to do this. Select the message and then use "edit as new" from the very first menu on the left "Message" Adrian Monday, January 30, 2023, 1:08:33 PM, Achdut18 achdu...@gmail.com wrote: > Unless I am dreaming, I seem to recall an option that one could access a sent > message and edit it as if it were a new message. I thought that one could > access that function by right-clicking on the message in the sent folder. > However, that no longer appears to be an option. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: turning off automatic copyright symbol with (c)
Maybe you should stop using HTML to write e-mail. I just typed in (c) directly in this mail without using any space character and it has stayed the same. Let's see if it survives posting to the mailing list. I never use HTML in e-mail. I also have the same version of The Bat! Pro 10.3.2 (64-bit Halloween edition without autoupdate) but on Windows 10 Professional Adrian Friday, December 16, 2022, 10:22:40 AM, Avram Sacks achdu...@gmail.com wrote: > HI, > > As an attorney, I am frequently needing to cite statute and regulation > subsections in e-mails. Often, I need to type a "c" within parentheses in > order to indicate a particular section's subsection, such as SSA § 202(c). > However, in normal typing, "(c)" automatically changes to "©" unless I use a > work-around by typing a space between the "c" and one of the parentheses, and > then, later, using the backspace key to close up the space. This is tedious! > How can I turn off this "feature?" I see nothing in the "Preferences" > window that addresses this. > > Thanks. > > -- > Avi > Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 10.3.2 on Win 7 Pro > > > Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: lost config
Dd you install with or without autoupdate? It is best wthout autoupdate, but when you run for the first time use the "C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat64.exe" /reg:02repairV10 command line. The /reg switch will create a separate registry entry Adrian Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 11:09:03 PM, Joe under...@igdc.com wrote: > Hello, > > I just installed 10.3.2 over 9.3.01 and my configuration is gone. It found > my accounts but all my configuration and messages are gone. > I have been using TheBat since 2010. Every update was painless. However, > this one was not painless. > I was able to restore version 9 with a backup I had, but do not want to > install 10 again (which I just paid for) until I can be sure it will > install and capture all my messages and configuration. > Any suggestions on what I did wrong or what the issue is? Anyone else have > this issue. > Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 10.2 and gmail
Hello Thomas, I fixed this problem for a new gmail account. The protocol type on the very first screen has to be "IMAP or POP" instead of "Auto". That is new. If I leave that at "Auto", it makes an IMAP account. It used to be the case that you selected IMAP or POP on the next screen. What I haven't found yet is what I need to do in The Bat for an existing gmail POP account to make it work again since Google broke** almost every e-mail client earlier this year. It is rare that I send mail from a gmail address. I will create a new account in The Bat when I need it for my other gmail address. I don't need to actually retrieve gmail in The Bat, I set it up a long time ago to forward everything arriving at my gmail addresses to an address on my own domain as "web login required" every so often in the error logs was driving me crazy. **Gmail may get broken again as I have started receiving mails with "keep your phone handy" Adrian Monday, October 24, 2022, 5:21:16 AM, Thomas Fernandez ML thomas.f...@gmx.net wrote: > I am using Gmail and POP under v10.2. However, I set it up a long time ago. > Do you have the problem with an existing account or are you trying to set up > a new account? Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1 no option showing to clear account logs
That should have been "reinstall version 10.2.1". Another thought struck me. Are you using the normal (WITHOUT autoupdate) version or the alternative "with autoupdate" version? I always use the former. Adrian Sunday, October 23, 2022, 9:43:05 PM, Adrian Godfrey li...@ags.lu wrote: > Then I suggest you get either version 10.2 (I see a "red X) in this version > or 10.2.1 (this seems to be new when I did a "check for updates" a few > minutes ago, but I haven't downloaded 10.2.1 yet. > Adrian > Sunday, October 23, 2022, 9:00:01 PM, Chris Wilson ch...@chriswilson.tv wrote: >> With 10.2.1 there is no button to clear an account log. > Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1 no option showing to clear account logs
Then I suggest you get either version 10.2 (I see a "red X) in this version or 10.2.1 (this seems to be new when I did a "check for updates" a few minutes ago, but I haven't downloaded 10.2.1 yet. Adrian Sunday, October 23, 2022, 9:00:01 PM, Chris Wilson ch...@chriswilson.tv wrote: > With 10.2.1 there is no button to clear an account log. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1 no option showing to clear account logs
It should be there as a red X (without any text) between "Search" and "Highlights only" at the top of the screen. Adrian Sunday, October 23, 2022, 8:16:48 PM, Chris Wilson ch...@chriswilson.tv wrote: > With 10.2.1 there is no button to clear an account log. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 10.2 and gmail
While I can make gmail work with Version 10.2 of The Bat, it seems to insist on using IMAP instead of POP. Is there any way to fix this? I don't particularly need to retrieve gmail directly in The Bat as I forward everything sent to my gmail address to an e-mail address on one of my own domains AND delete from Google servers, but there are occasions when I need to send mail from my gmail address and I certainly don't want to start web browsers to do this. Adrian Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrading to version 10
Looks like the mailing list is playing up. I don't see any mails (until today) with dates after August 14. I thought the list was just quiet, but ... Adrian Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 7:49:22 PM, MAU miguel.ur...@gmail.com wrote: > On Aug. 24th I started a thread in TBbeta with Subject "How to > install/uninstall V10 flawlessly Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrading to version 10
There are two versions, one with and one without autoupdate. Whichever one you use, it overwrites everything in "program files\The Bat". If you use the version WITHOUT autoupdate, it is no different than upgrading from previous versions. But the one with autoupdate installs files in an "AppData" directory of whichever Windows user you login with rather than a subdirectory of" Program Files" It took some fiddling to get Version 9 and Version 10 installed simultaneously, but there is a very useful REG option for the command line in the shortcut of Version 10. I actually decided on the Version 10 without autoupdate and installed it in the usual "program files" directory. It is not difficult to use "run as administrator". Adrian Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 7:31:42 AM, Ian A. White raj.the...@gmail.com wrote: > Are there any tips I need to know to make it a smooth transition? Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message filtering problem
Particularly annoying when the one line of actual new text is after the quote. Adrian Friday, August 12, 2022, 7:36:40 PM, MAU miguel.ur...@gmail.com wrote: > You don't need to quote his whole message just to ask that, do you? Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is this discussion list active?
Hello Maggie, Same here and that was dated August 01. Adrian Friday, August 12, 2022, 5:50:14 PM, Maggie Meister mag...@leelehman.com wrote: > I just received the dutaint monthly reminder today. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is this discussion list active?
If you mean the post dated August 6 at 09:27 with the subject "sigdash", it was retrieved today (August 12) and I let The Bat check for mail every 30 minutes for all my e-mail addresses every day, but sometimes I set to "offline" during the night. It looks like there are delays at the server for this mailing list. There are two other mails, one dated August 11 and one August 12 that also did not get retrieved until today August 12. Adrian Saturday, August 6, 2022, 9:27:26 AM, Ian A. White raj.the...@gmail.com wrote: > G'day, > Is this discussion list active? > I posted a message some days ago, nut it still has not propagated through/ > Regards. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete 'older than'
It can be done with filters. Either "date of" and/or "header field, date" as the condition and "delete message" as the action. The deleted messages will end up in "Trash", so you need to purge and compact "Trash" afterwards. Adrian Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 9:54:19 AM, Gunivortus Goos g...@boudicca.de wrote: > Hello, > > is there an option to delete messages that are older than a certain date? > > I've over 7000 messages in my inbound, down to 2014. I'd like to delete > all from before 2019. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail
The problem with gmail is that changes in May have broken almost every e-mail client. Gmail needs OAUTH. This is supported in Version 10 of The Bat. If you look in the account log for your gmail address , you will see "username and password not accepted" Note "not accepted". That is different from "invalid" or "not valid". Unless you actually need to send mail from a gmail address, just forward everything that arrives at your gmail address to an e-mail address on another domain. www.gmail.com. Settings, Forwarding and POP Adrian Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is my legacy TB! version usable with the upcoming Google security changes please?
Version 10 works, but you have to jump through some hoops with a web browser when you first add a gmail address to The Bat. Unless you actually need to send from a gmail address, you can fix retrieval of mail at www.gmail.com and forwarding everything (and delete from Google servers afterwards) to an e-mail address on a domain that doesn't break every e-mail client on the planet. Adrian Tuesday, May 17, 2022, 4:49:48 AM, Achdut18 achdu...@gmail.com wrote: > The threshold question remains, what is the latest version of The Bat that > will support the new security changes annouced by Google and which become > effective in just two weeks? Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mark as read
If you are using POP, you won't even see the spam folder unless you append "/spam" to the login username. If you are using IMAP, you need to remove the spam folder from what it accesses. Every three minutes to check for mail is excessive, but if it's IMAP, you get the mails as soon as they arrive anyway irrespective of how often you check. Adrian Thursday, March 24, 2022, 2:47:25 PM, Gunivortus Goos g...@boudicca.de wrote: > The PC on which The Bat! runs, connects every three minutes for mail at the > server > for all my accounts. When I switch to that PC the mail is already there. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mark as read
Try using Mail Dispatcher so that you only get the headers and can decide which ones to actually retrieve. Just append "/spam" to your username to access the junk / spam folder instead of the INBOX. Otherwise, you need to play with the sorting office filters Adrian Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Internet Reconnect
Just activate Options, Periodical checking for the e-mail accounts, but probably not a good idea more often than every 30 minutes. Adrian Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changes to GMail
I have had "forward to POP and delete gmail's copy" already activated since creating gmail addresses. "allow less secure apps" was sufficient. But even with that, I was still plagued with "web login required" if my IP address for the actual Internet connection changed. Today I have added "forward to a specific e-mail address and delete gmail's copy". I should have done this long ago to avoid that "web login required" error. The e-mail address on one of my own domains doesn't play such games. Adrian Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Disable periodic checking for all accounts
I guess simply unplugging the Ethernet cable (it is rare that I use wifi) so that there is no possibility of an Internet connection will guarantee no retrieval of mail. Then I just need to go through the "options" in the properties for every e-mail account one at a time. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Disable periodic checking for all accounts
Is there a way to disable periodic checking for all e-mail accounts in TheBat Version 9 without starting the program? Similarly, a way to set the "ignore check all accounts" flag for every account before starting the program or even afterwards providing I can disable periodic checking first. These are in the "Options" of the Properties for each e-mail account. I presume these are in the individual "account" files, but which file extension is it? I am contemplating restoring a backup made on my first PC to my second PC, but I don't want that second PC to start retrieving any mail when the restore finishes unless I do it myself manually for specific e-mail accounts. My other option is to do a new installation of TheBat (it is a different version from that on my first PC) and then start adding a few new e-mail accounts that do not exist on the first PC) one at a time and copy the common filters from the first PC. Adrian Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access password
Hello Jack, I get a "memberships reminder" every month that has passwords from mailman-ow...@thebat.dutaint.com, but that is not Rit Labs. Those passwords are for if you ever use a web browser to access this tbudl mailing list. Adrian Saturday, January 8, 2022, 7:21:33 PM, you wrote: > The password in question is the one sent to me each month by RIT Labs. I'm > assuming everyone who uses TB! gets these same emails from RIT Labs monthly. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of Officce e-mail
Out of office should be set up at the mail server itself, not in the e-mail client. That said, you can do it with the "send automatic reply" filter action. But that filter action will only work if The Bat is actually running. Just don't set up any kind of autoresponders for any mailing lists you are subscribed to. That will get you put on moderation at the very least and most likely unsubscribed. Adrian Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to stop automatic indentation in ver 9.4.4
Automatic indentation does not happen for myself with the plain text editor, but I wouldn't expect it there anyway. It also does not happen if I exceptionally change to HTML editor in my attempt at reproducing the problem. Adrian Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account tree design
Hello MAU, I presume you mean this: Options - Preferences - Other Options - Use denser display of items for folder and message lists I still don't see a space (blank line) between folders whether that box is checked or not. Adrian Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 7:40:05 PM, you wrote: > Hello Adrian, >> How do you get a "space between the folders"? I have never seen >> that in any version of The Bat (from version 7, but now version 9). > See message from Marck Pearlstone in this same thread. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account tree design
How do you get a "space between the folders"? I have never seen that in any version of The Bat (from version 7, but now version 9). Adrian Monday, September 6, 2021, 12:04:45 PM, you wrote: how to switch from the new style with the space between the folders to the classic style. Couldn't find it in the Menu Navigator or the Help either. Can anybody help me out? Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting folders in the account tree
Right clicking on folders and using up, down, move in, move out is one way to sort the account tree. But I wonder if it is possible to edit a configuration file (but which one?) with a text editor while The Bat is not running. Adrian Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Macro as filter action
Is it possible to use a macro (%NORCPTCONFIRM and %NOREADCONFIRM) as a filter action? I need this to happen for every incoming mail, i.e. "any message", remove the receipt and reading confirmation flags and then continue processing with other filters. All my e-mail addresses ignore "read confirmations" anyway, but I keep finding "reading receipt confirmations" in an Outbox. I have version 9.3.4 of The Bat. Adrian Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hiding accounts in Account Tree
Saturday, September 8, 2018, 2:44:33 PM, you wrote: > You can delete the accounts you don't want shown That is tricky when they are duplicated in the account tree. The files on the hard disk are safe, but assume account X is duplicated. Either all of the duplicates for account X get deleted or none of them. But sometimes only the one highlighted when you select "delete". Deleting the account.cfg and doing the registry edits fixes it (except the account tree is now in a different order) for the first time The Bat is started afterwards, but the duplicates come back some time later and on subsequent restarts of The Bat. But why do the duplicates happen in the first place? I could try a different PC with Windows 7 Ultimate instead of Windows 10 Pro, but is there a way to set either "ignore check all accounts" and/or reset all accounts so that no scheduled checking for new mail happens in one place without having to go into the properties of each account one at a time? Adrian Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hiding accounts in Account Tree
Friday, September 7, 2018, 1:53:39 AM, you wrote: > it also has one of my accounts listed four times in the Account > Tree. All with the same message counts. Is there also a way to fix that? Ihave a similar problem, but it's more than one account (but NOT all of them) that gets shown multiple times in the account tree. These instructions direct from Ritlabs actually worked to remove the duplicates, but has the side effect of changing the order. It also only seems to be a temporary fix as some accounts have started to be shown multiple times again. -cut here. 1. Close The Bat! 2. Open the mail data folder and delete the file AccOrder.CFG 3. Open the Registry editor via "Start -> Run -> regedit -> OK" (press Windows+R to invoke "Run") and under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\...\ rename "RIT" into "RIT_1". 4. Start The Bat!, select the option "User-defined directory" and point it to your mail data folder, the respective accounts will be added to the program. ---cut here-- Adrian Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moderators Announcement
Monday, July 30, 2018, 1:20:48 PM, you wrote: > just showing you what is there. No more, no less." my TB! > displays all senders in the message list That is normal. The "sender" is the mailing list itself. What is important is what are in "From" and "reply-to". The "from" should be the individual person who made the post. The "reply-to" is normally the list address, but some have that as the actual person who made the post. Adrian Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outlook Calendar emails
Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 12:41:17 PM, you wrote: > It would be good it TB! > could do something similar (if just the display of the invite in a > readable format). Not specifically Outlook, but it would nice if The Bat actually lets you choose a specific application for specific file types. Using file associations is a problem in Windows 10 because they keep getting reverted to "Windows defaults". I notice it most with PDFs when suddenly Edge starts instead of the program I actually specified. My firewall traps Outlook, but every so often, that tries to start. Strangely setting The Bat as my default email client does NOT get reset. Adrian Godfrey Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Accounts showing multiple times in the tree
> A very helpful person t Ritlabs gave me a solution: > Close The Bat > Delete the AccOder.cfg file > Regedit HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\...\ rename "RIT" into "RIT_1". > Restart The Bat and change the "user-defined directory" accordingly It's not intuitive putting the quote _before_ the new text. But that aside, the duplicates have returned during the night. They were gone. I wonder if it's the periodic checking (in my case, most are att 30 minutes, but some at 60 minutes and some at even longer intervals) for new mail or the automated backup that causes them. All my mail accounts use POP. I actually have The Bat version 8.5 (current), but I don't think it'sthis specific version. They were definiely there in 8.4 and possibly earlier. I had moved all the mail accounts to the bottom, so I only noticed the problem when I add some new ones recently. Adrian Godfrey Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Accounts showing multiple times in the tree
A very helpful person t Ritlabs gave me a solution: Close The Bat Delete the AccOder.cfg file Regedit HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\...\ rename "RIT" into "RIT_1". Restart The Bat and change the "user-defined directory" accordingly The drawback is, the order of the entries change, but at least the duplicates are gone. Im not sure yet whether directly editing that cfg file would let me specify the actual order of entries in the tree. in the meantime, I have started reorganising using "move up" and "move down" within the program itself. Adrian Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crossover or somesuch??
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 2:00:11 AM, you wrote: > We have successfully run TB! on the Linux machine using Crossover > and Play on Linux. Might there be a way to run TheBat! on a Mac > through Crossover, Boot Camp, Parallels, Citrix XenApp, or other > such applications?? Any Windows virtual machine on a Mac should work. I have VMWare on my Mac, but I use it very rarely,-Rather defeats the point of buying a Mac and then running Windows- I need to look at Crossover for my Linux PC. A native Linux and Mac version of The Bat is of course the ideal Adrian Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Accounts showing multiple times in the tree
Sunday, June 3, 2018, 12:40:52 PM, you wrote: > I had that with an account a few years ago. I deleted the account from > TB", selecting the option to keep the account files on disk. Then I > created a "new" account with the same name and pointed it to the > existing account files. (First I made a copy of the account files in > case anything went wrong.) Shift Ctrl Alt L didn't fix the problem. Looks like I need to delete the duplicates manually and recreate them Deleting one will probably delete all the others with the same name in the account tree. I have backups anywa and the addected accounts are on my own domains, so no issues with "forgot password" routines. Maybe they have been there a long time, but my first suspect for the cause is the forced updates in Windows 10 Pro. Adrian Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Accounts showing multiple times in the tree
I just noticed that some of my email accounts are showing more than once in the account tree. I renamed one, but it renamed all the others for that one as well. The actual account directory for such affected accounts only exists once on my hard disk. Is there a way to force a refresh of the account tree that would remove the duplicates and only leave the account there once? Windows 10 Pro, The Bat Version 8.3 Thanks in advance Adrian Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Specific program for viewing attachments in outgoing mail
Wednesday, December 13, 2017, 9:30:00 PM, you wrote: > SETTINGS - SYSTEM - DEFAULT APPS - CHOOSE DEFAULT APPS BY FILE TYPE (at the > bottom) and select Adobe Reader for .PDFs ( which assumes you have Adobe > Reader > on your computer.) I don't actually want Adobe Reader - I _do_ want PDFXChange Editor. It seems that whatever you put as default for PDF gets reset to Edge at some point. Correct it again in "default apps by file type" and it stick for a while, but gets reset to Edge again. Edgeblocker will stop Edge, but then it gets reset to TWINUI It is a major bug in Windows 10 (and not only for PDFs apparently) Strangely, Windows 10 doesn't reset the default mail program or the default web browser Adrian u Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Specific program for viewing attachments in outgoing mail
In Windows 10, the file associations keep getting reset at random times (probably the forced Windows Updates) to "Windows defaults". Is there any way of specifying a particular application within The Bat itself (currently version 8.0.14 64-bit) for viewing PDF attachments in the mails I write myself? Thanks in advance Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 6:06:11 PM, you wrote: > So, The file size (.MP4) is 594,243,584 bytes Far too large for email. Even if it works, it will take for ever to send and probabky bounce anyway because it exceeds the mmessagae size limit of the recipient's mailbox. Put it on an FTP server Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Directories disappear
I can recover them with Ctrl Alt Shift L, but why do directories disappear from the view every so often? They are of course NOT deleted from my hard disk, so why does the Bat sometimes not find them? I have 64-bit Version 7.4.16 on a Windows 10 Pro (clean install, not an "upgrade") computer When this happens, they are all in the root directory and not associated with any actual mail accounts. Thanks in advance Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
Wednesday, April 12, 2017, 2:02:57 PM, you wrote: > I think the main issue is that most people cannot be bothered to >>> encrypt or digitally sign their email, irrespective of ease or >>> difficulty. Being unable to get friends or family members to do so is >>> almost the default Getting family to even use ANY email client instead of web browsers or WhatsApp is a perpetual struggle. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
Tuesday, April 11, 2017, 4:16:32 PM, you wrote: > Email clients TheBat, Thunderbird or ClawsMail on Windows (also with > gpg4win installed) are very simple to use. On Linux it is simple as > well. Irrespective of whether it is simple or not, how do you avoid asking everybody else whether they can receive PGP mails and of course communicating the keys? Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
Monday, April 10, 2017, 9:16:06 AM, you wrote: > Instead, two of them counter-proposed to use VPN. A VPN is much easier. If you use a mobile device for email, a VPN will work there as well. Trying to guess which recioients use PGP (and most people don't) Even worse for mails you receive as they can come from anywhere. Adrian -- Best regards, Adrianmailto:li...@ags.lu Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring Exchange mail in TB! - How?
Sunday, March 26, 2017, 9:16:51 PM, you wrote: > Try setting the association through Control Panel -> Default > applications - that's the only way to get the association to stick > with a progra I have done this using both "default applications" and the file extensions in both "Settings" and even Cobtrol Panel. They stick for a while, but then they get reset again. I'm not sure how long exactly, but I think within one hour. I have only noticed it with PDFs, but wnen doing Google and similar searches ti try find a solution, it happens with others. I never double click on anything anyway, but it gets annoying when I view the PDF attachment in the mail I am about to send to make sure it is the right one and have to reset again. PDFs are the only files I attach directly. I put any others in a Zip or Rar so that there is only one attachment per mail. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMAIL account using The Bat!
Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 7:35:41 PM, you wrote: > Is it possible to read and post > messages from within TB It certainly is possible. I only used the gmail website to create the account in the first place and occasionaly for "website login required" errors (see below). You need to look in the settings there and enable POP. In The Bat, just create an account like any other. SMTP = smtp.gmail.com secure to regular (startTLS) port 587 POP = pop.gmail.com secure to dedicated (TLS) port 995 Keep an eye on the account log. If your IP address for the actual Internet connection changes, you get "website login required" errors. That will probably happen the first time. Then just login at www.gmail.com and logout again. Then your email client will work. You might have to set "allow access for insecure apps" somewhere when actually logged in to gmail in a web browser, but if this happens you should only have to do it once. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Why sending a document makes it Read Only)
Monday, March 13, 2017, 10:28:03 AM, you wrote: > Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your > message and following it with all quoted text below, is not > encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list > because Putting the NEW text before whatever is quoted is normal on 99% of mailing lists. Much easier to read without having to scroll past all the quotes to find something new and even more so if multiple people reply. This is the ONLY list I am subscribed to that insists on bottom posting. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?
Thursday, March 9, 2017, 1:27:15 PM, you wrote: > Been using port 26 for years and still do. 587 usually works as well. Just a bit strange that they block port 25 when you are using the SMTP server from your own hosting/domain. The ones I have come across (prepaid SIM card in a 3G wifi router or USB 3G modem) don't seem to have their own SMTP servers anyway. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?
Tuesday, March 7, 2017, 11:43:34 PM, you wrote: >> I am surprised port 25 for SMTP works. That is >> blocked by many ISPs. > I have been hearing that for years but never encountered it myself. It gets particularly irritating when you use the SMTP£ server from your own domain, but your actual Internet connection is not your fixed line DSL at home. In those cases (e.g. hotel wifi, SIM card in a 3G/4G router), if you can find what the SMTP server is, then port 25 works, but some don't seem to have one. A VPN fixes the problem. Otherwise, you have to ask your hosting provider for alternatives to port 25. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?
Monday, March 6, 2017, 8:48:28 PM, you wrote: > For mail retrieval to work, I also have to log onto gmail website That is a real pain and rather defeats the point of an email address. Sometimes you have to do that if your active Internet connection has a different IP address. Not difficult if you travel and don't always use the same or even any VPN. I am surprised port 25 for SMTP works. That is blocked by many ISPs. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring Exchange mail in TB! - How?
Saturday, February 25, 2017, 2:36:37 PM, you wrote: > In my Windows 10 its called "default programs" or "default apps" > depending which screen view I look at (in case this helps anyone > to find it). Windows 10 has a nasty habit of resetting file associations to the "Microsoft defaults". I am having this issue with PDFs. First they get reassociated with Edge, Look for EdgeBlocker - this stops Edge starting, but then they get reassociated with TWINUI after some unpredictable time of setting it back to what it should be. That works for a while, but eventually it gets reset. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring Exchange mail in TB! - How?
Friday, February 24, 2017, 3:02:21 AM, you wrote: > The moderators bounced my reply that had the > screenshot. > That is normal on almost every mailing list in existence that attachments are not accepted. Some just strip the attachment but the rest posts, others reject the entire post. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring Exchange mail in TB! - How?
Thursday, February 16, 2017, 2:31:50 AM, you wrote: > the > organisation gave me the log-in credentials: I get this with some wifi accesses. You have to start a web browser first and do that login. Afterwards your email client should work normally. Some providers try to make you use the webmail. But if you can find the right person, they can give you a normal POP access so that you can use an email client for that email address rather than web browsers. Webmail is a pain as you have to cc yourself / forward / redirect to a normal email address for every message, otherwise you have no record. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Refilter only works if the filter is set to manual
Friday, February 10, 2017, 7:32:42 PM, you wrote: > Sorry. But as I said in previous reply, I don't need to set the filter > to manual for re-filtering. I couldn't find out where the log for "refilter" is, but I tried right clicking on messages and "test filters". It looks like some of the filters that should not actually do anything somehow got set to active. Setting them inactive seems to have fixed the problem. I _only_ have "common filters" now. I deleted all of them in the individual mail accounts and added a "catch all" as the very last filter in "common filters" so nothing is turning up in the various inboxes and anxyything not already filtered is in _one_ place. Istill don't know why all my "common filters", but only the common filters, disappeared though, but fortunately I had a backup. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Refilter only works if the filter is set to manual
Tuesday, February 7, 2017, 6:53:52 PM, you wrote: > When manually re-filtering, all the filters (common and account ones) > of the selected type (Incoming, etc.) will be used, UNLESS 'Manual > filters only' is ticked. In this case, only filters set as 'manual' > will be used. > I didn't have any common filters, but for testing purposes I created > one and it just works. No need to set the filter to manual for > re-filtering. If I leave those common filters as active and "share with all", but NOT manual and I don't check "manual filters only", then I see the messages getting trapped, but the actions don't get performed when I right click on that directory and select "refilter" If I set the filters to manual and select "use manual filters only", then the filters work when I refilter that "not sorted" directory. Maybe I need a "catch-all" as the last of the common filters. Perhaps there is something left over in the individual mail accounts. I will try deleting every filter from those individual accounts and hope nothing still ends up in theire respective inboxes. Common filters is the logical place. I need the filters to work based on the content (headers) of the incoming mail and not which one of my addresses it was sent to. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Refilter only works if the filter is set to manual
For each of my email addresses, I only have two filters. An "incoming" to move everything to a "not sorted" directory and an outgoing one to save sent messages in a top level directory outside the "account". I only use "common filters" for the actual filtering and that works when new mail arrives. All the "common filters" have "share with" set to "select all". If I set a common filter to "manual" and refilter the "not sorted" directory for manual filters only, it works. What do I need to do to make eefilter work on that "not sorted" directory without having to change all the existing (and any new ones) to manual in "common filters"? Help, About shows Version 7.4 (64-bit) and it is of course a paid for version. The OS is Windows 10 Pro, but I remember having the same issues with Windows 7 Ultimate and a 32-bit (also paid for) version 7 of The Bat. I don't know whether it's Windows 10 or the 64-bit version, but all my common filters disappeared after closing The Bat properly and rebooting my PC. I managed to recover them from a backup, but had to set every one of them manually for the "share with" and "select all". Thus I have a lot of messages left over in the "not sorted" directory. Strangely, it was only the common filters that disappeared. Thanks in advance Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Refilter only works if the filter is set to manual
For each of my email addresses, I only have two filters. An "incoming" to move everything to a "not sorted" directory and an outgoing one to save sent messages in a top level directory outside the "account". I only use "common filters" for the actual filtering and that works when new mail arrives. All the "common filters" have "share with" set to "select all". If I set a common filter to "manual" and refilter the "not sorted" directory for manual filters only, it works. What do I need to do to make eefilter work on that "not sorted" directory without having to change all the existing (and any new ones) to manual in "common filters"? Help, About shows Version 7.4 (64-bit) and it is of course a paid for version. The OS is Windows 10 Pro, but I remember having the same issues with Windows 7 Ultimate and a 32-bit (also paid for) version 7 of The Bat. I don't know whether it's Windows 10 or the 64-bit version, but all my common filters disappeared after closing The Bat properly and rebooting my PC. I managed to recover them from a backup, but had to set every one of them manually for the "share with" and "select all". Thus I have a lot of messages left over in the "not sorted" directory. Strangely, it was only the common filters that disappeared. Thanks in advance Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving attachments
That option is there BUT you have to do it individually for each email address in the Properties for the account Sunday, February 5, 2017, 5:25:21 PM, you wrote: > I want it defined in the attachment location directive in settings. This > way I set it once for all incoming mail without using filters. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: copying filter rules from computer A to computer B
Saturday, January 14, 2017, 12:33:16 PM, you wrote: > You could take the opportunity to change them all to Common Filters Common Filters is a much better place. Then you only have one filter to add / change that will work for all your email addresses. I still have some leftover in the individual mail accounts that I am gradually moving to Common Filters one at a time as I have not yet found a way of cutting and pasting them all in one go. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Disable schedules for all mail accounts
Is it possble to disable / enable the automated checking for ALL mail accounts or do I have to go into each one individually? Thanks in advance Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Account logs Version 7
How long do the entries stay in the account logs? I just looked at a couple. One has no entries at all apart from today and I know there was definitely an error for that account yesterday. Another one has entries for the last three days. Is there any setting in The Bat that can put the entries from all accounts in ONE place? I have Version 7.3.12 (32-bit) on Windows 7 Ultimate. Does the 64-bit version of The Bat actually do anything differently? Is it worth doing a backup, uninstall 32-bit, install 64-bit and then a restore? Thanks in advance Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispamsniper
Saturday, December 3, 2016, 4:59:03 PM, you wrote: M>>My Windows start menu shortcut is called "The Bat! (64-bit)" M>> M>>My TB! executable is called "thebat64.exe" > Just for the record also, none of the examples you gave hold true for me > running > the 32 bit version. One could assume then that RIT Labs labels only the 64 bit > versions that way thereby identifying *both* versions automatically. Although I could run the 64-bit version (I have Windows 7 Ultimate), I actually have the 32-bit version installed. My Windows start menu shortcut shows "The Bat! (32-bit)" Another way. Where is your executable? Is it in "Program Files" or "Program Files(x86)"? If it is the first one, it is 64-bit. If the second one, it is 32-bit. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Session log for all mail accounts
Is there a way of looking at least in the last session (ideally all sessions) at the account logs for all accounts in one place without having to go to each mail account individually? I am particularly interested in finding out whether any "connection to host broken" errors occurred. This is completely random. Sometimes there are not any, other times an account that worked the last time has one and vice versa. With SMTP, at least there is an immediate window showing that the send failed and which account it was, but with POP there is no warning at all. The only real indication is that I don't receive messages for mailing lists that are definitely high traffic. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mail messages open up as new instance of application
Thursday, September 15, 2016, 9:00:13 PM, you wrote: > See Help | Help Topics | "Contents" tab | expand "Reading Mail" | > Folder View. > > "The "Message Viewer" window is actually a Folder View window > and (by default) hides a list of messages stored in the > folder that contain the message you are viewing." > > I rarely have a use for it, as I read most messages in the preview > pane in the main window. Thanks for that. Now I know why it happens. I think I need to buy a new mouse as I have seen random double clicks instead of single clicks in Windows Explorer recently. Like you, I find the preview pane in the main window sufficient. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Resend sends immediately with no option to edit/confirm
Thursday, September 15, 2016, 2:59:38 PM, you wrote: > Select the Message Menu and then Select "Edit as New". Thanks. "Edit as new" does what I expected "resend" to do. I wonder why "resend" is even there. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Resend sends immediately with no option to edit/confirm
The "resend" option only seems to be in the "Message" menu. It does not seem to be visible by right clicking on the actual message. The "Resend" in the "Message" menu sends immediately and does not give an opportunity to edit or even confirm sending. Is there a setting somewhere that I have missed? I often have to send messages that are similar to previous ones, but the attachment is different and I need to add/delete lines in the message body accordingly. I thought "Resend" would be a better option than "forward" as it retains the email address I need to send to. "Forward" actually works and lets me edit before confirming the send. My version of TheBat is 7.3.2 and my OS is Windows 7 Ultimate Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mail messages open up as new instance of application
Thursday, September 15, 2016, 12:29:06 AM, you wrote: > In the new window, you could try:- >View | Show message list | Hide But why does that new window even open at all? It happens for me as well (previously version 7.3.1 but also with 7.3.2). Windows 7 Ultimate is my operating system. I have two monitors. I see the main list and the current message displayed below as normal on monitor 1, but clicking on any message in that list opens a new window on monitor 2 that looks the same, but now with that clicked-on message shown below. Strangely, clicking on another message in the list on monitor 2 does NOT open yet another new window, but just displays that message below the list as expected. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message
Sunday, July 31, 2016, 9:11:58 PM, you wrote: > Move your mail directory from APDATA to MY Documents That will fix it, but why not go one step better and put it anywhere that is not within the directory structure created by Windows itself? I have mine on a separate partition from the Windows partition. I do that for all software (except the program itsel) as much as possible, but some have that dreaded "My Documents" and others in Users/username hardcoded Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message
Sunday, July 31, 2016, 5:03:24 PM, you wrote: > No amount of copying the > jackADDRBOOK.INI file to a couple of different locations and then loading > from those locations ever resulted in my regaining my complete address book. > Only when I loaded from the Program Files(x86) location would my addresses > come > back. Try this. Login with administrator rights and modify the permissions on that jackADDRBOOK.INI file so that your normal Windows user can write to it. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message
Saturday, July 30, 2016, 6:03:56 PM, you wrote: > So here's what I recommend, close TB!. > Copy the ADDRBOOK.INI from its location in Program Files to the location in > AppData. > Open TB!. I have a better idea. Put it in a directory you create yourself, ideally on a different partition from the Windows partition, and not in any of the directories created by Windows itself. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: server host name does not match certificate
Thursday, July 21, 2016, 12:20:17 PM, you wrote: > Thursday, July 21, 2016, 2:03:15 AM, you wrote: >>> The error messages is clear, but where do I find the certificate so >>> that I can see what is actually in there? >> try this: >> go to Options/S/MIME and TLS... and set Microsoft CryptoAPI. > Thanks for the suggestion. Now the error message in the > account log is different: > !21/07/2016, 12:11:05: SEND - TLS handshake failure. Invalid > server certificate. The certificate or certificate chain is based on an > untrusted root. I contacted the hosting provider and let a Teamviewer session happen, but sending with TB for this PLESK hosting doesn't work unless TLS is disabled at the server. The technician suggested either buy a certificate or use Thunderbird. Why would Thunderbird work, but not The Bat? I have left it with TLS disabled at the server for the time being. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message
Friday, July 29, 2016, 6:59:24 PM, you wrote: > (if I'm already an administrator, why wouldn't TB! run > properly?) I would try to find out why TB on your PC even wants administrator rights. I don't login with administrator rights or do "run as administrator" and yet TB works on my Windows 7 Ultimate PC. My Windows 10 PC (clean install NOT an "upgrade") is 2000 km away, so I can't test what happens there as I write. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message
Friday, July 29, 2016, 5:47:01 PM, you wrote: > I'm pretty sure > my Win 7 user account was as an administrator Nit a good idea to login to Windows with administrator rights all the time. Apart from actual software installs, you should look very critically at software that won't run without administrator rights after it has been installed. Apart from CD burning software, almost nothing else should need administrator rights. My Windows login for Windows 7 Ultimate does NOT have administrator rights and The Bat runs without problem. I have a clean install (I actually bought a licence) of Windows 10 on a different PC, but I don't see using Windows 10 as primary OS anytime soon. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail
Tuesday, July 26, 2016, 12:53:16 AM, you wrote: > They only use it if a fraudulent log-in was suspected. I'm not > saying it's a great idea, but it's not a big problem over here. > Happenes maybe twice a year, and I change IP addresses several times > per month. It's a pain in Europe where your IP address can be in different countries. Admittedly a VPN would fix that, but not always practical, for example a 3G wireless (or even with an Ethernet cable) router or USB stick rather than a fixed line DSL connection. If you are getting mail to the recovery address, I need to find out why that isn't happening for myself. I don't use email on my Android phone or tablet, but they seem to be immune, i.e. no notifications when the IP address changes to a different country Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail
Monday, July 25, 2016, 3:02:14 PM, you wrote: >> Gmail breaks email clients every time you change your IP address. > Not true, I use Gmail on the laptop that I travel with. I rarely get > it blocked, but if it happens I am informed that web login is required. That is definitely breaking an email client. Why should we need to start a web browser at all having set up Gmail to use POP? And what is the point of sending that error message to an email address that Gmail blocks your email client from reading? Why doesn't it use the recovery address or send an SMS? The Bat at least has an account log, but not all email clients do or are not as easy to find. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail
Monday, July 25, 2016, 12:52:21 PM, you wrote: > Otherwise, Gmail and Yahoo both from time to time randomly disable POP > and/or SMTP on an account and you have to log into their web interface > to fix it. Gmail breaks email clients every time you change your IP address. It doesn't even send an email to the recovery email address about this. When you by chance find the "web login required" in the error logs, there are actually mails sent to the address it won't let you access with your email client telling you it has been blocked! These of course don't start arriving in your email client until after that web login! Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: server host name does not match certificate
Thursday, July 21, 2016, 2:03:15 AM, you wrote: >> The error messages is clear, but where do I find the certificate so >> that I can see what is actually in there? > try this: > go to Options/S/MIME and TLS... and set Microsoft CryptoAPI. Thanks for the suggestion. Now the error message in the account log is different: !21/07/2016, 12:11:05: SEND - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate. The certificate or certificate chain is based on an untrusted root. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
server host name does not match certificate
The error messages is clear, but where do I find the certificate so
that I can see what is actually in there?
SEND - This certificate is self-issued.
SEND - TLS handshake failure. The server host name ("smtp.xxx.xxx") does not
match the certificate.
I don't get any warnings about the certificate or options to view it,
but only those error messages in the account log for the affected
email address.
The hosting uses PLESK as the control panel
My email client is The Bat Professional Version 7.
It's only a problem for sending. POP works.
Thanks in advance
Adrian
Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection to host broken
I am suddenly being plagued with "connection to host broken" messages in the error logs for random email accounts in Version 6.8.8 (32-bit) of TheBat on Windows 7 Ultimate. Is there a recent Windows Update that could be causing this? It happens more often with a VPN connection, but it also happens without one! The mail accounts are all POP accounts on the same domain and set up identically (except login and password) for all of them. For example: Accounts 1, 2,4 work but 3 doesn't Next time 1, 2 and 3 work but not 4 Next time both 3 and 4 work but not one of the other ones or maybe 3 fails again Thanks in advance as to where to start looking Adrian Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrading to v7.0.0.56 icon animation
Saturday, August 15, 2015, 3:27:44 AM, you wrote: Win 7 issue. They made changes that stopped the ability to have animated icons Admittedly Version 6.8 of The Bat, but I see animated icons on my Windows 7 Ultimate taskbar for several applications including TheBat. I have downloaded Version7, but I'm not sure when I can find time to install it. I also need to buy the upgrade licence first. Adrian Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting filters not working consistently
Monday, June 1, 2015, 2:02:34 AM, you wrote: some of the filters no longer seem to be working I don't know why either, but sometimes filtering on message source fixes this. I thought mail headers were supposed to be immune from the dreaded HTML Adrian Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming mail size?
Saturday, April 11, 2015, 1:44:19 AM, you wrote: I recently had sent to me a couple of emails each of which contained about 15MB worth of attachments. I usually want attachments in a separate directory on my hard disk rather than in message bodies. I don't know the exact limit yet, but if attachments are too large they don't get separated out into that directory. Apart from that issue, I've never had issues in actually retrieving mails with 30 MB (and more) file attachments. Amazing how many people attach, for example, twenty different files rather than putting all 20 in ONE Zip or RAR- Adrian Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Monday, March 16, 2015, 1:22:50 AM, you wrote: I send and read plain text because, as far as I'm concerned, an email is a message and not a presentation. Same here. Email is email. HTML is for websites. If all that presentation is actually needed, that's what file attachments are for. Adrian Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import root certificate
Saturday, November 22, 2014, 8:07:10 PM, you wrote: Are you running the SMTP servers, or are they? If they are running them and the certificate does not match the server name you are using to connect, are you perhaps using an alias and the server is also known by the name that matches the certificate? My domain / hosting provider is running the servers. In fact I just received a mail from there that the certificate name is the same for three of the four domains, but different for the other one. This means changing the SMTP server address accordingly in each email account. I need to test this, but that means the CryptoAPI should work if I do that. Adrian ... Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import root certificate
Saturday, November 22, 2014, 8:07:10 PM, you wrote: I would have thought the root certificate belonged in a single AB entry in the Trusted Root address book. (Assuming you have done your due diligence and came to the decision you actually do trust the certificate and the CA behind it.) Also something to try, but as it seems the SMTP server is different from the name in the certificate, I think this means I still have to change the SMTP server name in each email account accordingly. I'm not going to do it now. I think I will sleep on it as to whether to use CryptoAPI or the addressbook. Adrian ... Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import root certificate
Friday, November 21, 2014, 11:02:02 PM, you wrote: It can be done through the Address Book, but it's simpler to switch to CryptoAPI in Options - S/MIME and TLS. Options looks easier, but then I get server host name does not match the certificate and the mail does NOT get sent If I don't change anything at all, I get the nag about untrusted, but the mail gets sent. All I can do here is OK or cancel. The other options are visible but all greyed out. I can even see that certificate in the account log whether I change nothing or check CryptoAPI instead of internal. I have four domains from the same ISP. The certificate is the same, but it's four different SMTP servers, none of which of course match the certificate. Surely there has to be an easier way than creating address book entries for each email account and importing the certificate into each of those. I'm not totally blocked, but it's an extra confirm every time I send mail from my own domain(s). Adrian ... Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Import root certificate
My ISP sent me this: According to an online research, your mail client The Bat does not include the root certificate for the StartCOM certificate authority - which is rather strange as they are neither new nor uncommon, I have a download link, but how do I import the certificate into The Bat? Thanks in advance Adrian Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Session log Version 6
I know there is an account log for each email address, but is there a log that shows all the activity for all accounts in one place whether only the last check mail or send mail session or even all since the last time the log was reset? With more than a dozen email addresses, it's starting to get tedious having to look at each account one at a time to see if there were any problems. Thanks in advance Adrian Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't enter registration code block
Friday, October 3, 2014, 6:27:34 PM, you wrote: I am seriously considering buying an authorized copy ($99 from Newegg) of Windows 7 and trashing Windows 8 on this new machine. I will contact ASUS tech support to see if the machine will even let me do that. First thing to do with any new PC is format the hard disk and install the OS yourself. Unbelievable the junk that gets pre-installed at the factory. Even more unbelievable that there is no CD for the OS in the box. Easy way to test before you buy Windows 7. Put any Linux Live CD in the PC and see if it boots to Linux. If it doesn't, you may have to change the boot order in the BIOS. Adrian ... Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Thursday, September 25, 2014, 9:04:25 PM, you wrote: Any reason why it shouldn't be put in: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!? It offends my Monkian sensibilities to have files to a specific program spread all over the place. The place you do NOT want application data (whether email client or any other software) is in any directory created by Windows itself. Ideally on a separate disk (I can do this on one of my laptops, but the newer ones don't have physical space for a second hard disk unless you lose the CD/DVD drive), but at the very least on a separate partition from the Windows partition. As for %email, it did actually point to the same place as Options, Preferences in The Bat. This surprised me as no matter how many times I set The Bat as default mail program, clicking on mailto on websites opens compose message in Eudora (if it is running) and starts Eudora if it isn't. This may happen for other people who have more than one email client installed eg. Outlook or Thunderbird as well as The Bat. Adrian ... Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Importing gmail contacts
Sunday, August 24, 2014, 2:49:38 PM, you wrote: I never see that, since Gmail works perfectly well in The Bat! using SMTP/POP without resorting to their terrible (IMHO) webmail interface. gmail works fine in all email clients. Just set it up once to activate the POP server. Then you should never need to start a web browser again (until you create another gmail address). BUT there is still the problem of IP address. Every so often, you get web login required messages in your email client error logs and the only way to fix it is to actually login with a web browser. It is a real pain with VPNs (I use whichever one gets a connection that doesn't drop and it's not always the same one) or even IP addresses in different countries without a VPN at all. Nobody else seems to play these games with IP addresses. Adrian .. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible to copy filters to another account?
Wednesday, August 20, 2014, 9:06:48 PM, you wrote: Is there a way to copy them to another, rather than having to recreate each in turn? You can copy and paste by right clicking, but only one at a time. I learned that the hard way by not putting all my filters in common filters in the first place. I'm gradually moving them all there out of the individual accounts. Adrian .. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.8.10 OK to use on Win 7 64 bit?
Friday, July 18, 2014, 7:50:32 PM, you wrote: I've even reset the missing ones as unread but it still won't see them I don't know (yet) where it is in The Bat, but you will probably also need to change the last message read to a lower number (zero is a good one to use unless you have hundreds of messages still on the server ;)) It gets tricky when you access the same email address from different devices. I have that problem with the gmail address for my Android tablet. Adrian .. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font size in workspace
Sunday, July 13, 2014, 3:09:55 PM, you wrote: In Options | Preferences | System you can find Account tree font on the right side of the window which you can change to your needs. Thanks very much. That fixed the problem. I'm still curious why it changed though - maybe a keyboard shortcut? Adrian .. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter manipulation
Sunday, July 6, 2014, 3:03:17 AM, you wrote: I don't understand why RITlabs don't make all filters into Common Filters, with the per-account filters views just showing the Common Filters currently ticked for that account. Perhaps they will in one of the next versions of The Bat. I've never understood the per account. Maybe it's useful for those who only have one or two email addresses strictly separated so that business-related and private only know one of them. In my case, I tend to filter on things other than which address the mail was actually sent to, usually from but sometimes subject. That means almost every filter is _one_ common filter, otherwise I have to copy and paste the same filter into every account. My immediate issue here is exceptional. I only used that address for LinkedIn groups and it bore absolutely no relation (apart from the domain) to any of my other email addresses. I thought I was safe with account-specific filters for this. Quite apart from LinkedIn ignoring whatever address you specify for the groups, the format of the messages changed as well so all the filter conditions were broken as well as not sending to the expected address. It's not only The Bat. I don't think any email client lets you edit filters using any text editor. Adrian .. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter manipulation
Is there a way to copy and paste ALL filters (or at least more than one at a time) associated with a specific email address to common filtera? The background is I had LinkedIn groups (NOT digests) set up to send to a specific email address and not my primary one. LinkedIn seems to be broken and is ignoring this setting in ALL groups! I really should have put those filters in common filters in the first place. I have The Bat version 6.3.2 Professional installed Thanks in advance Adrian .. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Cannot copy the message
Does anybody know what causes cannot copy the message? Or even how to find which message it is that triggers this during filter processing? Thanks in advance Adrian (version 6.3.2 Professional) .. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply text insertion
Monday, June 16, 2014, 12:42:51 AM, you wrote: And even if the recipient views in HTML, their viewing settings may be wildly different to your own, so they don't see what you imagine they might. Not to mention all those crazy colours that make a lot of HTML mails extremely difficult to read or even legible at all and of course the wastedbandwidth,particularly for people with smartphones, tablets, 3G modems and data roaming charges. You don't get this problem with plain text. Every plain text message is always legible. HTML in email raises immediate this is spam suspicions for many people. Adrian .. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply text insertion
Monday, June 16, 2014, 1:14:42 AM, you wrote: I too have a Gmail account which I seldom use because TB! far exceeds Gmail. I have a gmail account as well. The only time I went to the website was to create that address in the first place (or to resolve those pesky web login required errors when my IP address changes). Gmail has its own POP and SMTP servers- Works fine with Eudora, TheBat and Thunderbird at the very least of the possible email clients Adrian .. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
