Re: Sorting office filter for GTD
Hello George, Monday, April 30, 2007, 3:17:52 PM, you wrote: Andrew Diederich wrote: AD I'm trying to build a set of filters to better track emails I'm AD waiting to get an answer back. I currently have a folder AD @WAITING FOR that I copy things from my sent folder, or drag AD emails I've forwarded to someone else to work on (delegated). Another approach is to use a Virtual/Chat/Watch Replies folder to track such emails. Helpful instructions deleted Very interesting! There isn't any help I could find on that feature, so I didn't even think about it. That may just do the trick. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: Is MAPI secure?
Hello Batfolk, Right now I'm considering moving from S/POP and SSL SMTP to MAPI. Is MAPI encrypted like those, or is it just a binary protocol like LDAP? Thanks for the help. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting office forward doesn't take a changed template
Sunday, April 22, 2007, 1:42:07 AM, Roger wrote: I see you are using Voyager and unfortunately I cannot test that, but the latest version of The Bat! certainly will forward messages automatically and I can edit the forwarding filter. In case you are interested, the latest version, which Ritlabs say is to released to the public tomorrow, can be downloaded from the following; Well, I have TB! 3.98.4 as my work client, and that's where I was trying to forwarding. I left that out, unfortunately. I'll upgrade to 3.99 when it comes out, thanks for the heads up. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
sorting office forward doesn't take a changed template
Hello Batfolk, I'm testing out a new mailserver (Zimbra) at work, so I've configured sorting office in TB! to forward all messages sent to recipient (me@) to forward to metest@, and then those get into the test mailserver. The idea is so I can use the Zimbra mail client for a while to see how other folks in the office will like it. The issue I have is the forward doesn't allow me to change the template. I deleted all the normal FWD template pieces in the rule, but those changes are ignored. I've now realized I can setup a redirect, but I think the inability to change the forward template for the sorting office filter is a bug. Does that sound true? Thanks for the help. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager won't start
I've been running Voyager on a usb thumb drive since December, and today suddenly it won't start up. I don't get any error messages, it just does nothing after I double-click it. It should be about version 3.95.6, and I'm running XP pro. I do have a few hundred MB free on the drive. The voyager process gets stuck in task manager, and can't be killed. (Well, I try and stop the process, but it never goes away.) Is there a way to fix this, or get logs to identify the problem? Thanks for the help. -- Andrew Diederich Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Voyager won't start
Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 12:18:59 PM, you wrote: Hello Andrew Diederich everyone else, Try FileMon from Sysinternals: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/Filemon.mspx That's a great resource, thanks for the link. I got Voyager up and going. Basically I got a cup of coffee and by the time I got back it was running. I think I'm actually running into a completely different OS/hardware issue. Thanks for the time. Limit the logging to voyager.exe with the filter option. Try to see if any open/create operation causes a fail in the logs. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
changing TB! tray icon
Hello Batfolk, I just migrated my TB! install from one windows profile to another. Most of my settings stayed, minus the three pane view, ticker config, and my tray icon. I can't figure out how to change my tray icon from the black-background flying bat to the white background, stationary bat. How do I do this? Thanks for the help. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: changing TB! tray icon
Monday, January 15, 2007, 2:55:41 PM, you wrote: Hello Batfolk, I just migrated my TB! install from one windows profile to another. Most of my settings stayed, minus the three pane view, ticker config, and my tray icon. I can't figure out how to change my tray icon from the black-background flying bat to the white background, stationary bat. How do I do this? *sigh* Figured it out. It's Options Preferences General, and uncheck Icon animation when unread messages are detected. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Stop generating .eml with forwards?
Hello Urban, Monday, January 8, 2007, 4:22:48 PM, you wrote: Monday, January 8, 2007, Andrew Diederich wrote: When I forward an email I received with attachments, the original email and attachment are added as an .eml file. Look under Account - Properties - Templates - Forward, there is a box saying Forward messages as attachments (MIME standard). You probably have it checked. Uncheck it and TB! will do what you want. Perfect! That was it, thanks. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Stop generating .eml with forwards?
Hello Batfolk, When I forward an email I received with attachments, the original email and attachment are added as an .eml file. I prefer the attachments being attached, and the text from the original email just be put in the body. If I Redirect rather than Forward the email, I get the behavior I want. Of course, Redirects don't appear to come as me, so aren't good for regular forwards. Thanks for the help. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question about Voyager
On 1/3/07, Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Regarding my second question, let me give an example. I'm away from my main computer. I plug my flash drive into another computer and download messages. I send a few messages. How do the downloaded messages and my sent messages get back to my main computer? Voyager is a stand-alone email client. I got bit by that, too. It's not meant to be TB when you're away, it's really a separate mailbase. So, when I bought TB! to use at work, I just started using Voyager for my home email. Don't let the sync options in the menus fool you -- they don't work (so says Ritlabs support). Or, they're really not for syncing between TB! and Voyager, anyway. -- Andrew Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronization of The Bat!
Hello Gene, Friday, December 29, 2006, 2:41:34 PM, you wrote: Hello fellow list members, Hoping to tap into the brain trust, here: Is it possible to sync two or more instances of The Bat!, if they are not collocated? IOW, if both machines are set to automatically check for mail and there is a passage of time in transit between the two machines, can they really be accurately synchronized?? The popular methods are using IMAP (leaving messages on the server), POP (leaving messages on the server), or physically copying your message files around. If this is not possible, and it seems that it is not, since the Help File seems to suggest that it is a method of synchronizing two or more still life images while the machines continue along their real time life, is there a better way to do this? I'm not entirely sure what that sync is intended for, but it is certainly not for syncing between two Bat programs (like you'd sync offline messages in outlook). I had tried syncing The Bat and Voyager with that toolset, but it just isn't for that. TB Support said they were working on a better sync in the future. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.86.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Google mail certificate not in address book
Hello Marten, Thursday, October 26, 2006, 4:53:51 AM, you wrote: If there is anyone out there using TB to collect their Google mail through a POP, could they look in thjeir address book for the CA certificate and presumanbly, it is possible, let me have a copy of it to put in mine so I don't get mail collection held up everytime TB checks for new mail? Check the CAs in your address book. Do they have the certificate in the Certificates tab? If you've restored your address book they may have disappeared. If they're gone you can recreate them. This is what I did in Voyager: -quit Voyager -rename MAIL/RootCA.EBD to MAIL/RootCA.EB -restart Voyager (Thanks to Vili for the steps.) -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.86.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preferences problem in TB Voyager 3.86.03
Hello Claude, Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 3:51:52 AM, you wrote: Hi Tbudler, In the preferences/other options dialog box, all subtree options seems to be shifted with their contents. For example : - on the Character Sets (XLAT) tab, we can read, This subtree contains a lot of rarely changed options like confirmation customisation, Messages submission forms, smartpad preferences and so on. on the confirmations tab we find the character set list relative to above tab. - on the submission forms we find the list of elements pertaining to the confirmations tab... - and the smarttab contains the system-wide hotkey list, so its options are missing... Can someone confirm this ? I see the same thing. Looks like a bug. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.86.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
VCARD reader for The Bat?
Hello Batfolk, I'm starting to get more and more meeting requests from Outlook users. Does anyone use a good program they use with TB! or have a good technique for managing them? Thanks for the help. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.86.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite
Hello Richard, Friday, October 20, 2006, 3:12:07 PM, you wrote: Hello MikeD, Friday, October 20, 2006, 3:21:43 PM, you wrote: M2 Can you selectively install from the suite? It might be interesting to M2 install just the FW and nothing else from the suite to see of that M2 makes any difference. Your concept was pure genius. I turned off all ISS program segments and added them back one by one. I've isolated it to a problem with their anti-virus segment (the reason I bought the software in the first place). All works fine with anti-virus turned off. Waiting to hear back from ZoneAlarm for a solution. Many anti-virus apps do many weird things to protect the Internet if your box gets zombied. They put in a proxy on port 25, or restrict what .exe files can send on port 25. The proxies on 25 yell when you try to send TLS encrypted email since they can't scan for viruses. It all really chafes my hide. A pain in the neck. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.86.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Voyager
Hello Nick, Monday, September 18, 2006, 6:51:35 AM, you wrote: When I close Voyager it takes close to 10 minutes to finally close all the way out. Definitely a PITA, and I often end up just going into task manager and putting a bullet in it. I'm using Voyager for my home mail now. I turned off file compression on my two inbox folders, and now voyager closes very quickly. I'm not using a USB 2.0 port. I compress all folders every once in a while. It was just trouble when it tried to do it every time I shut down Voyager. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.80.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What is Inbox - Known for?
Hello Chris, Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 7:38:25 PM, you wrote: Andrew Diederich @ 2006-8-29 8:30:02 PM What is Inbox - Known for? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a folder called Inbox - Known in one of my two accounts, but nothing is in it. I can't figure out what _should_ be in it, either. It does look like a system generated folder. What's it for? It is for messages from contacts in your address book. There is also a pre-built filter in the Sorting Office that will move messages from these people into the Known folder. The filter is called Known. You may need to enable it. Mystery solved, thanks! Outside of mail lists most of the mail I get is from known people, so I don't think I'll wind up using it. If Inbox - Known was just a reference to the email, and not a move or copy, I'd probably use it, though. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.80.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What is Inbox - Known for?
Hello Batfolk, I have a folder called Inbox - Known in one of my two accounts, but nothing is in it. I can't figure out what _should_ be in it, either. It does look like a system generated folder. What's it for? Thanks for the help. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.80.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Importing trusted and intermediate certificates
Hello Chris, Thursday, August 24, 2006, 8:40:47 PM, you wrote: Chris W. @ 2006-8-24 10:37:23 PM Importing trusted and intermediate certificates mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If I File Import... I get a popup error No addresses have been imported. I can manually make an entry in the address book, and import the cert that way, but that seems very tedious and manual. Confirmed. But only for ASCII certificates. Binary ones seem to work just fine. Good catch -- I always use base 64 encoded certs, so I hadn't tried the der certs. While the address book info imports fine, it does not actually import the certificate it grabbed the information from! You have to find the entry in the address book it created, go to the certificates tab, then import the certificate again. This time you can use either ascii or binary certs. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.80.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Importing trusted and intermediate certificates
Hello Batfolk, Some people I regularly get email from have S/MIME signed emails from StartCom (http://cert.startcom.org). StartCom has only recently passed their security audit, so their root and intermediate CA certs aren't included in TB. How do I import their x509 certs into TB? I can't drag the cert into the Intermediate CA or Trusted Root CA sections of the address book, since that just adds the cert to the existing entry I happen to hit. If I File Import... I get a popup error No addresses have been imported. I can manually make an entry in the address book, and import the cert that way, but that seems very tedious and manual. Is there a better way? Thanks for the help. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.80.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Voyager w/v2.12
Hello Alexander, Tuesday, August 22, 2006, 1:34:42 PM, you wrote: However, as far as I know there is no synchronisation feature between TB and Voyager. But you can create a backup and restore it on the other installation. This is exactly what Ritlabs support told me. While you get Voyager when you buy TB Pro, they are two separate products. The sync in TB/Voyager is also non-functional. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.80.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Errors sending/receiving from gmail -- SSL errors
Hello Batfolk, Vili answered me off list, and I thought I'd seed the archives for when someone else runs into this. I've tried this for Voyager, and I imagine it'd work for TB! as well. 1) Quit Voyager 2) Rename MAIL/RootCA.EBD to MAIL/RootCA.EB 3) Restart Voyager Voyager took quite a bit longer to start up, but then RootCA.EBD was recreated with all the certificates. I can now check and send mail through gmail without hitting OK every time. Thanks for the help Vili. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.80.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Errors sending/receiving from gmail -- SSL errors
I've just setup voyager to grab my gmail account. While this works, I get SSL handshake errors because Google uses a self-signed certificate. TB has greyed out buttons in the popup warning about accepting the cert, but the buttons are greyed out. The box: The server didn't provide a root certificate during the session, and there is no corresponding root certificate in your address book. This connection may not be secure. Please contact your server administrator. Continue anyway? View Certificate and Add to Trusted are both greyed out. What I think happened is my Trusted Root CAs in my address book have lost the certificates they had. I had tried out TB Home, but since I owned a copy of Voyager I moved my home email account to it. When I did a backup/restore to move over my mail and address book, I included the CAs as well. (I use CAcert, which isn't included by default.) This deleted the certs contained in the address book entries. How do I recover the certificate CAs without reinstalling Voyager? -- Andrew Diederich Using The Bat! v3.80.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HOWTO for syncing Voyager?
On 8/9/06, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, there is no sync. These are two independent email clients. You can run them in parallel on the same computer, or you can run them on different computers. The latter is what Voyager is meant for. Ok, this was not clear to me. For example, I have my private accounts on the Voyager but not on my work computer. That's how I check my private mail in the office (don't want those mails on the office computer). This is a good idea. I may do this, too. I've been using the gmail web interface but have always been frustrated by the lack of S/MIME support. S/MIME is why I started looking at TB in the first place, actually, since Opera does't have S/MIME support. I've already purchased Pro, so own a copy of Voyager. Maybe I take the plunge and move my personal email to Voyager. Worth thinking about. snip Today I learned that there is also a Thunderbird Portable which also runs on a USB stick, so I couldn't impress this new acquaintance much. I didn't ask him whether that has a synchronise function, because I don't miss that function. Thunderbird just didn't turn my crank. I tried it for a while (desktop version), but couldn't get too excited by it. I imagine most people on this least are similar! :) Thanks for the suggestions. -- Andrew Diederich Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HOWTO for syncing Voyager?
On 8/4/06, Richard Wakeford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Andrew, Thank goodness I'm not the only one then. It's not at all clear as to which version you synchronise from and to, is it? :-( I logged a ticket with Ritlabs support. Short version: Synchronise is depricated, doesn't work, will be replaced at some unknown date with something better. There is no way of sync'ing between TB Pro and Voyager except for a backup/restore between the two. Another suggestion from support was to leave all the mail on the server, and let Voyager and TB just manage it separately. They suggested always BCC'ing myself so I'd get a copy of mail I sent, too. Hmm, it'll duplicate sent mail on the sending client. I hadn't seen this in the archives, so I'm including this for posterity. Keywords: sync, syncing, synchronize, voyager, TB! -- Andrew Diederich Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HOWTO for syncing Voyager?
I'm looking for a step-by-step set of instructions for how to sync between The Bat! and Voyager. There is a rumor that the help files describe it in detail (http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=4TID=3177MID=12829phrase_id=1262411#message12829) but in my .chm help files I can't find any mention of Voyager, and syncing just has to do with IMAP. I started with Tools Synchronize... in TB, but outside of choosing the files and address books, I can't figure out the three steps. -- Andrew Diederich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
quick search erasing characters
My quick search is erasing characters. In Pro, 3.80.06 I select a message in the list. I then start typing in my search criteria, like windows. I see the word appearing in the quick search above the message list, but then once I've stopped typing it erasing everything but the first two letters, like wi. Has anyone else seen this, or know how to stop it? -- Andrew Diederich Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Google Desktop/TB Plugin/Mostly Works, But....
Hi All, Been playing with the latest TB! and Google Desktop Search Plug-in (1.0.0.14). For the most part it works great, but it just hangs on some folders and I have to exit, uncheck that folder and restart the index again. Can't seem to figure out what is hanging it and wonder if someone else has tackled this (a quick search here and elsewhere didn't bring anything up though). 1) Copied messages to a new Folder and deleted to old one. 2) Deleted my TB index file and forced it to rebuild 3) Deleted Google and its files and forced those to rebuild 4) Run TB Maintenance a couple of times. 5) Defragged my HD I've tried steps one and two with a couple of the folders where it hangs. Still no go. No common features either, some have a lot, some a few. I'm sure I'm missing that one bad message, but any help in identifying it or whatever the real issue is appreciated -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.62.14 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. --George Walker Bush, LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Google Desktop/TB Plugin/Mostly Works, But....
Hello Roman, Saturday, November 19, 2005, 12:47:04 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Huh. I had asked for a plug-in like that (or rather, I had asked that TB! had a search feature as powerful and fast as GDS, but I daydream and digress) and there wasn't anything available (or nobody knew) when I asked. Can be dowloaded from here: http://www.vgirlos2.narod.ru/gd.html The download is as slow as sin, but it does eventually download. After you install it, you will find it listed as a TB Plugin What hangs - TB or GDS? Um, both? the first time you ask it to index it goes through a list of folders that you have specified to Index. IS this done through TB!'s Plugin interface. It gets to these problem folders and then stops. And in case it was just slow, I waited, and waited, and waited You did all that just to make it work and it didn't? It mostly works, I unchecked the problem folders, but some are ones I want indexed. Like all TB users, I have way too many messages across way too many folders, but I'm not willing to part with any. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.62.14 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 Never argue with idiots, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience -- Anon/Dilbert? Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
forwarded emails
Hello tbudl, when I forward emails at the moment I'm getting a 1.eml attachment automatically added - a bounce back says it may be a virus. Has anyone heard of this? it it a virus infection? can i get rid of it? Andrew -- Best regards, Andrew mailto:mail1 Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP4 multi send
Hello , for some reason when I've been sending mail using thebat and imap4 twenty or so copies of each email have been sent. Looking at my sent folder not every single message is being multi sent but most are. This is happening both on my home pc and laptop running 3.5 pro. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the bat. Any ideas? -- Best regards, Andrew mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP4 multi send
Hello , for some reason when I've been sending mail using thebat and imap4 twenty or so copies of each email have been sent. Looking at my sent folder not every single message is being multi sent but most are. This is happening both on my home pc and laptop running 3.5 pro. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the bat. Any ideas? -- Best regards, Andrew mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 3.5 major bug!
On Sat, 14 May 2005 09:48:34 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. I just set one of my accounts to user without any further priviledges. I could send a new message just fine. I confirm Allister's problem. Any attempt to create or reply to or forward emails produces mulitple AVs. This makes 3.5 unusable for me and I have reverted to 3.0.1.33 Another thing: if I click in the Quick Search panel and press ESC the panel disappears. Obviously I can get it back using 'Customise' but surely this behaviour isn't intended? I'm using Windows 2000 SP4 -- Andrew Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 3.5 major bug!
Hello Ian and others, Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 10:03:07 PM, you wrote: This has happened for as long as I can remember. I reported it a long while ago. I think it was (and is) ok when Quick Search popped up as you typed, but if a user has chosen to have it visible on the toolbar it ought to stay there. I'm afraid I've been guilty of changing the subject of a thread by bringing this up in my original post, for which I apologise; I'm rather a beginner in these things. Am I allowed to revert to the original question raised by Allister? Can anybody duplicate this behaviour in 3.5 : create a Group, add a User to it, then logon as the Group. What happens when you then click on the 'Create a new message' button? With me this causes an AV. -- Regards to all, Andrew Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 (because of the above!) on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Palm Synch Starts the Bat
Hi All, Weird bug in the latest version of TB!, wondering if anyone else experienced it. Every time I sync my Palm (OS 5, Desktop 4.1.4, latest Agendus Standard for Windows and Palm also installed), TB! launches. I don't synch my TB mail or have any of those conduits running (wish I could synch my TB mail, but that's another story). One interesting note: During the install, TB! saw that Agendus for Windows was running and asked me to turn it off. I did, before continuing. Any thoughts? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.5 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 The best political community is formed by citizens of the middle class. --Aristotle, Politics Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Maintenance Steps?
Hey All, Just a curious question... probably 'cause it is Sunday and I find myself with a little extra time since going outside into the snow and wind doesn't feel like an option right now ( NYC :) ) There used to be a working defrag option in BayesIT (now no more), but do TB folders suffer so much that this was (is) necessary or does a regular ole' degrag program take care of it (I use PerfectDisk)? I supposed I could copy, rename, delete, rename manually the mail base (that's basically what it did I suppose--copied the bases over and then replaced the beat up ones with brand new files, unless it did something more), but is it necessary? My folders are set set to compress at each exit (doesn't take any time at all since it happens every time), 40K messages across multiple folders (some in the thousands). Inboxes kept mostly empty. Any issues here? Am I missing a maintenance step or two? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife. --Douglas Adams Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Maintenance Steps?
Hello Stuart, Sunday, January 23, 2005, 10:44:56 AM, you wrote and sent the following: I am using the latest version of BayesIt .80 (at least I think it is the latest version)and it still has the defrag option. I've got .73 and while the bonus option is there, it does nothing. I was thinking another case of sloppy GUI. Maybe time to grab the latest and see if it is in fact sloppy GUI? Thanks, -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 If you save the world too often, it begins to expect it. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Maintenance Steps?
Hello Stuart, Sunday, January 23, 2005, 10:44:56 AM, you wrote and sent the following: I am using the latest version of BayesIt .80 (at least I think it is the latest version)and it still has the defrag option. Just tested 0.7.12 and 0.8.0... Legacy/Sloppy GUI with no functionality behind it. I guess my original questions are still in play. But thanks. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children. --George Walker Bush, second presidential debate, Oct. 11, 2000 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Freezing after downloading mail
Chris Weaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only way we can open messages, is to close TB! using the right click option on the animated icon is the system tray and selecting 'Exit'. On re-opening TB!, we can then read the messages. Had a similiar issue once (not the same, but similar). Did you play with directory or user permissions at all on their system? Perhaps TB is trying to write to some file it can't write to and it is trying to do that when it freezes? -- Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail created date time
Hello Chris, Thursday, January 20, 2005, 12:16:31 PM, you wrote and sent the following: I've already written to them twice including a screen print. They said they couldn't open the attachment (.png) for security reasons, so I have to write to them and print out a copy of the screen print :-( View / RFC822 Headers isn't enough? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 I like kids, but I don't think I could eat a whole one. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail created date time
Hello Chris, Thursday, January 20, 2005, 2:24:58 PM, you wrote and sent the following: What do people think? 1) They are generating wrong headers... but maybe not since I think 2 is more likely. 2) Are you accidentally parsing out headers from these particular emails with your mail server? Some spam or header rule? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife. --Douglas Adams Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hello Stuart, Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 2:13:00 PM, you wrote and sent the following: I notice that when I download a message with an attachment such as .doc or .xls that the icon beside the attachment shows the icon for the program that will open the attachment. This does not happen with .html or .pdf documents. Is there a reason for this and can it be fixed so that they do show up. Do these types of documents show properly when on your desktop? HTML and PDF icons show just fine in TB! on my machine. Do they open with the proper program when double-clicked? I have also noticed that when you click on an attachment and select Open, you get a message warning you about opening the document. It also has a note inferring that you can permanently remove this warning. If this is possible can you explain how? Hold down the shift key while double-clicking the attachment or Options - Preferences - Protection remove *.* from Always display warning about these files. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 You can't say that civilizations don't advance, however, for in every war they kill you in a new way. --Will Rogers, New York Times, Dec. 23, 1929 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
Hello Darrin, Sunday, January 16, 2005, 11:07:34 AM, you wrote and sent the following: Anyone use this with TB? Having good results? I decided to give it a try. For a long long time... It shouldn't interfere with anything. It is sort of its own POP mail client. I leave it open most of the time, and use TB to pull down the mail later. btw, have you looked at these filters: http://www.w5hq.com/MailWasher/ They work great for me, in fact I really don't worry about blacklist servers anymore between those and Bayesian filtering. You know bouncing is a bad thing, and ought to be removed from the product (most return addresses are spoofed for starters)? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 Human intelligence is limited, stupidity isn't. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Anyone using OnSpeed with The Bat!?
Marten Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last time I was away, it cost me 640 GBP in telephone costs to keep my clients websites maintained and to access email. Hmmm... why not a laptop with a local ISP sub? That's about decade's worth of dial-up in the US (Netscape $ US 9.95/Mo, 5 GBP after conversion?)! Can't be that much more expensive in Canada. -- Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[4]: Anyone using OnSpeed with The Bat!?
Marten Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well...b me :-0 I never considered that. Do you reckon I can get a SIM card, with a data subscription, in Canada to go in my existing GPRS card? Come to that could I get a SIM for my triband mobile as well? Perhaps some of the Canadian members here (or over on TBOT) can help you out? Not sure from a SIM angle, but a regular ISP subscription to a local number just seemed to make sense, considering the money invloved. I know some sites pick up the country you are coming from and change the page display, but if not, maybe this will spark some ideas for you. US rate is $9.95/MO, unlimited dial-up. http://www.getnetscape.com/default.jsp?promo=NS_2_7_131_2004_11_118 -- Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: history
Hello Arie, Saturday, January 15, 2005, 8:56:29 AM, you wrote and sent the following: how can I clear the history for the to field when creating a message? I can't find it anywere I think it is all contained in the file called account.his in your account folder. Try renaming this (so you have the original as a back up). I've done this before without ill effect (but every set up is different). And of course, each account has its own. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 If you save the world too often, it begins to expect it. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML replies to HTML messages
Hello Alexander, Friday, January 14, 2005, 11:23:27 AM, you wrote and sent the following: Nothing. Its a long standing bug. Very annoying. See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1807 ...submitted October 2003 *sigh* That's a shame. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 I like kids, but I don't think I could eat a whole one. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: on the fly encryption
Hello Peter, Tuesday, January 11, 2005, 8:31:47 AM, you wrote and sent the following: - make a full backup - quit TB - remove the registry tree HKCU/Software/Rit/TheBat! - start TB, choose OTFE from the dialog, insert all neccessary data but do not create an account - restore the data (from your previously created backup) during install dialog. Ready to go. HTH. This would be just for the Pro? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't repair Inbox
Hello Scott, Tuesday, January 11, 2005, 2:16:56 PM, you wrote and sent the following: The messages that I downloaded didn't show up in the Inbox and when I download new messages the same ones download again, but don't show up. How can I fix this? You can try using dispatch mail on the server to delete the problematic mail... -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 An English professor announced to the class; There are two words I don't allow in my class. One is gross and the other is cool. From the back of the room a voice called out, So, what are the words? Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB not responding
Hello Susanne, Monday, January 10, 2005, 7:08:37 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Thanks! Did that and now get the bat has encountered a problem and needs to close... after a short wait. Have you tried a reinstall of your version of TB! ? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. --William Pitt, House of Commons, 1783 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replacing PC-cillin with a good AV to use with TB! [was Re: How do I filter for this worm?]
Hello Mary, Thursday, January 6, 2005, 6:48:27 AM, you wrote and sent the following: What order should I proceed in? 1) I have the CD for the SP2 to install on this year-old copy of Windows XP-Home which the notebook comes with. 2) From there I need to go on-line and obtain all the XP-Home SP2 updates. 2a) Should I first replace the AV, then do the Windows Updates? 2b) Or should I let the bundled PC-Cillin run, and then after the MS updates put my AV of choice on? 3) I already know the third piece of software I'm going to install on the new machine: It's called The Bat! P.S. I am on broadband, but behind a router. I'm either going to use the Sony's wifi that I presently don't know how to use, or else take the Desktop cable connection to Comcast loose and attach it to the little notebook for all this downloading. Special thoughts and prayers for me, a babe-in-the-woods of new hardware and software, will be greatly appreciated. :) Hope this helps, worth reading: How to Secure (and Keep Secure) My (New) Computer(s): A Layered Approach: http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/8463 On the, whole if you haven't got a firewall in place, take care of that first before connecting to the 'Net. So applying SP2 might be the first answer. SP2 has a basic one built in to it. Many people have reported issues with applying SP2 (many have said it went smoothly, it did for me). A back-up before something major is not a bad idea. With the FW in place, anytime you connect to the Net to do anything else you are protected against most nasties. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 I have never let my schooling interfere with my education. --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do you get decent support out of
Hello Peter, Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 3:54:58 PM, you wrote and sent the following: What's wrong with that, as long as there *is* support? I'd love to be paid for my participation, but I volunteer anyway like many others. I just think it's worthwhile. :-) It is worthwhile, I participate on a few lists and forums for various things. But a corporate support person has access to resources that user-based support groups (collectively) do not. They have the ability to go to program managers, programers, testers, marketing people, whoever, and act as client advocates when they are doing the job right and can get answers for impossible or difficult questions. The money argument doesn't hold water. They already charge enough (and recharged it again recently) to afford a customer support person or two. Especially if they are seeking corporate clients... they will have to invest $$ to make $$, and if they get popular and their costs decrease... well, we won't see a corresponding benefit. :) We all deserve vendor support, but a corporation is even less likely to invest limited budget in software that doesn't have at least that... Call it formalism, but a corporation wants a responsible party who represents the company to answer their questions, and their complaints, and that is part of the payment. And we (TBUDL) don't qualify as that responsible party for them (although, let me say this again, we--the indv. users--deserve no less than that either). I prefer user-based support, it is often faster, but I want access to the vendor for the bigger issues. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 New toy for children with short attention spans: boomerangs that don't come back. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Replacing PC-cillin with a good AV to use with TB! [was Re: How do I filter for this worm?]
Hello Mary, Thursday, January 6, 2005, 8:48:30 AM, you wrote and sent the following: I'm really Off-Topic Big Time with this thread. If you're not subscribed to TBOT, why don't you do that, Andrew? We are discussing my Today's Adventure over there. :) But thanks for the great support, here. :thankyou: Thanks Mary, Not to be that much an idiot, but I will be, I read/reply through e-mail, but subscribed through gmane. gmane.mail.the-bat.bayesit gmane.mail.the-bat.beta gmane.mail.the-bat.devel gmane.mail.the-bat.plugins gmane.mail.the-bat.russian gmane.mail.the-bat.user The Yahoo group? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tbot/ -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 The first and foremost function of our jurors is to protect private citizens from a tyrannical and intrusive government... Jurors are the last line of defense for liberty. --Thomas Jefferson, 1789 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do you get decent support out of
Hello Thomas, Thursday, January 6, 2005, 11:06:27 AM, you wrote and sent the following: A I believe that user-based support is always the best, but in a A corporate setting not always appropriate. True too, but. And this is a real question, because I don't know the answer: Which email clients offer the same kind and quality of suppport that you can get from the TB lists? No disagreement, but that's not how bosses spend money. I think, what I'm hoping, is that Ritlabs sees the light regarding providing support (at least for winning corporate clients) and that we benefit by accident! -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 I like kids, but I don't think I could eat a whole one. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do you get decent support out of
Hello Thomas, Thursday, January 6, 2005, 12:05:31 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Tell me the email client with which this is the case, and I'll concede. Pocosystems (Pocomail and Barca, an Outlook replacement). Support and Forums. Support responded to me the last time I trialed it, though I also used the forums. So no-one does what TB does yet, doesn't mean they aren't getting closer all the time. And in the meantime, the real point isn't is user-based support enough. In my mind, it's how Ritlabs is losing revenue and how we all (clients and company) could benefit if they took care. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children. --George Walker Bush, second presidential debate, Oct. 11, 2000 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do you get decent support out of
Hello Mary, Thursday, January 6, 2005, 1:07:25 PM, you wrote and sent the following: I think perhaps Thomas may have thought he was Replying to Andrew. Andrew said that his company selected a different e-mail client, right after it lost a year or more of collective productivity in two days, due to the viruses that invaded via Outlook Express's preview pane vulnerability a couple of years ago, Andrew said he would have very much liked to have been able to recommend The Bat!, but wasn't comfortable doing that because RitLabs does not answer its customers' letters asking for help--at least, not on a dependable basis. Corporation decision-makers are going to want answers from the seller or the developer, not from volunteers on a support mailing-list. At least that's the point I think was being made by Andrew. Thomas apparently doesn't think that any e-mail seller offers that kind of support. Summed up nicely! -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 Beware lest in your anxiety to avoid war you obtain a master. --Demosthenes (384 BC - 322 BC) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do you get decent support out of
Hello Stuart, Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 7:43:10 AM, you wrote and sent the following: I really like The Bat but I cannot possibly recommend it under these circumstances. (A shame as I am a Management Consultant for a major consultancy firm focused on the SMB section and am often asked for advice on email packages). No-one here is going to disagree with your assessment about Ritlab's public face. Unfortunately, they do make a product, that when it works, works well in its niche. I was in a similar position a couple of years ago (wow, more, like three or four) after an e-mail virus swept through the office and most co-workers home PCs. I was unaffected at home. They liked some of the features I had talked about as well. I was asked if I could recommend the Bat for the office. I could not, and I mentioned the support as my leading reservation. I had tried getting support early on and learned early on it was pointless. They didn't like that idea either. It's great if you can tackle it on your own and solve the problem, but office wide, 50+ seats? No way I was going to risk my office rep. They just made sure that people had their AVs set to update frequently. That said, there are quiet a few people who read these posts. What is your issue and set up? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. --George Walker Bush, LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do you get decent support out of
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 12:43:31 PM, you wrote and sent the following: I consider these lists an integral part of TB, together with the Wiki which is getting better and better. Ritlabs is a real company with an office and full-time employees (to answer Stuart Moore's question) but what they lack in the department of tech support is more than made up by these lists. There were issues with TB in the past wich led me to not recommend it for businesses, but all of those (maybe with the exception of IMAP, am don't use that) have been solved. I would have no reservations recommending v3 in the current state. See above. Maybe the official Ritlabs support is pointless, but seeking support on these lists isn't. Oh, I'm sorry if it came across in the wrong way. I believe that user-based support is always the best, but in a corporate setting not always appropriate. It is a lot to expect, and unseemly, for a user list to support a corporate paying customer who shelled out whatever 50 seats cost. That's all. On an individual basis, we all make due. But in a corporate setting. Nope. I mean we lost 50-man days twice due to viruses. The powers that be realized that we had lost nearly a year's time in two, one-day incidents. Ritlabs could have benefited from that, and I'm sure from others who have realized the same--30 bucks a seat is a small price to pay for continued productivity, but only if it comes with some hope that help will be there at the vendor corporate level when client corp needs it. Maybe it is there, but since this is a word-of-mouth application to a large extent, our opinions do sway others. If they took care of us, they would take care of themselves with increased sales and licensing revenue -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do you get decent support out of
Hello Mary, Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 1:44:46 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Would you consider subscribing there (if you haven't already) and raising this topic on TBUDL'S sister list? The team is very heavily engaged in getting out a revision of the latest release right now, but one or another of them is reading and posting there several times a week. From what all of them, including the apparent highest decision makers say, they are trying very hard to make a viable corporate-world commercial product. They're just quite low on communication and marketing expertise! As I'm sure all of my fellow listers will concur. And possibly even view my last statement above as the understatement of the year!! Kind of suspected I was preaching to the choir, but I couldn't stop myself :) I mentioned it during (what I think was) their first experiment in support boards, before they closed them down due to popular disappointment. They either will or won't, but at this stage they have to provide the support for people to believe them. I'm sure they know this has happened, and I'm sure they are aware of the disappointment of corporate clients they have undoubtedly lost over the years. They have to do it, and unfortunately for them, they will have to provide quality support for a long while before anyone will really believe them and they will have to take care of critical and use issues in a timely fashion (I don't use IMAP, and it wouldn't have been an issue in my example, but it will be for others). Let's hope they actually follow through. If they don't, the up and comers will copy the best TB! has to offer and eventually replace it (wow, the quotes are random, but the one below is apropos). -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled. --Richard Feynman (1918 - 1988) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do you get decent support out of
Hello Alexander, Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 2:00:42 PM, you wrote and sent the following: I think the company you're working for should think about its security strategy, and not just about the mail program... It was a while ago, but attachments come in all the time. No security policy is perfect, and it was one of those viruses that exploited OE and Outlook's VB support when the preview pane was enabled (if I remember correctly, the ones that triggered effectively automatically a few years ago, remember?). Most AV's are after the fact, after the discovery, but not before. And it did force them to look at what they could have done differently, hence the discussion about switching e-mail clients. You can't stop people from sending you e-mail, but IE, OE, and Outlook sure don't help, they aren't in the easy to control and still remain usable category. Ditching them all should be part of any security policy! :) Now with password protected zips with the password in the body... no-one and nothing can protect you against stupidity (what was that quote, human intelligence is limited, but not its stupidity?). -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: How do you get decent support out of
Hello Stuart, Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 2:14:08 PM, you wrote and sent the following: TN So, what was your problem? TN TN I have been using TB! for years and had no major problems at all. I had locked out the admin account - none of the working accounts had admin rights. In the past now so no need to work through what may or may not have happened as I cannot test anything now. I am pleased you have experienced no problems. I have had problems in the past (possibly my fault despite using the Internet since before it was called that) with a) filters no working correctly (resolved with a point upgrade) and emails being deleted for no apparent reason (not connected to the filters I assure you) - thank goodness for regular backups. I'm not sure that qualifies as TB issue. How disappointing! If you can somehow get Admin rights to that machine still you can reset your password or take ownership of the mailbase files. Have you looked at this? http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/ btw, if you used encrypted file system (EFS) on those files, and reset the password, you will lose any access to them whatsoever unless you've specified a recovery agent. And that's the whole point with encryption. Just in case. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 QED: Quod erat demonstrandum. [Thus it is proven] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do you get decent support out of
Hello Mary, Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 2:32:17 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Hello Andrew! On Wednesday, January 05, 2005, 1:08 PM, you wrote: Keep the faith, Andrew! :42: I'll try Feynman had a way about him though, didn't he? Probably impossible to deal with in person, but no one said geniuses had to be polite! -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. --Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can't Access Years of TB - (Upgraded System, Reinstalled TB) - Help, Please
Hello Marck, Tuesday, January 4, 2005, 2:18:35 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Here's what went wrong: You forgot to backup and transfer the registry key. That contains all the vital bits like your registration code, your account names and where the folders are. If you still have the old computer, run up RegEdit and locate the HKLM/Software/Rit key and export it. Import it to the new system and try again. If he doesn't have the old PC... Been thinking about this, but it has been a long time since I used 1.62 (newer that 1.4, but still :). Didn't they also send an e-mail with the key that had to be used with a password (memory is vague) to register it? If he kept all his mail, that key will likely still be in the TBB files (which are just text files). Don't know how large they are, but wordpad might be able to handle it and find that e-mail and registration string... AS far as the folders, I've done the same for a new PC. Same name, they will be found (you might have to look at the account(s) folder in the TB directory if you've forgotten). -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled. --Richard Feynman (1918 - 1988) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mark as read and notification...
Hello Wilwilwil, Wednesday, December 22, 2004, 1:13:28 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Io, Is there a way to not generate the automatic email confirmation when I mark a mail as read (if this mail has flag for Read Confirm, of course) ? I think all read confirm requests wait for you to at least open the mail. In the account properties templates Reading Confirmation template. Choose the behavior you want. You can delay the send by choosing Put in Outbox and Prompt Before Action. If yes, is there a way to say I will never confirm, except for persons in a group of my addresses book ? Hmmm Works the same way for folder level properties (the Confirm template) and can override the account properties, so maybe if these people/Address book are filtered into a particular folder??? Never tried it, but that is one thought. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 The first and foremost function of our jurors is to protect private citizens from a tyrannical and intrusive government... Jurors are the last line of defense for liberty. --Thomas Jefferson, 1789 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Just got an email from Ritlabs
Hello Darrin, Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 9:05:23 AM, you wrote and sent the following: Hello TBUDL, Stated a discount on win-rar http://www.win-rar.com/discount?ritlabs Never used it before. Is it better than zip? I have received a couple files before in .rar format but most often they are .zip. Love WinRar. Better compression when using Rar, can create Zips for friends who haven't seen the light yet, create simple installers in a GUI interface or self extracting files, and more. btw, it is also as free as ZIP (or not ;) ). If you go over the 40-day eval you get reminded that it isn't supposed to be free, but can still use most functions. I bought it to support 'em. *Trial it first.* Also, if you've ever come across a bad zip file: Rar files can have 1) Recovery Record (as a % or each archive), gives WinRar the chance to repair broken archives by storing some extra recovery data within (increases size of file, better compression makes that a so what unless the % is really high) 2) Recovery Volumes. When spanning archives volumes, across CDs for example. You can create X number of recovery volumes that can replace any one vol in the set. Yep. I don't get how it works, but it supposedly does. Yes, this increases the overall size, by one CD for me always but if the data is important. Enough of the commercial. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 The best political community is formed by citizens of the middle class. --Aristotle, Politics Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reproducing directory structures between versions of TB
Hi, All, I'm using The Bat! 2.11.02, and I'm trying to make a _very_ complicated directory structure and filter set work identically on both my desktop and my laptop machine. It originated on my desktop. Now, the desktop has more than one hard drive, and for filespace reasons, the mail directories are on a different drive than the TB executable. The laptop has one hard drive, so the mail directories are in the default location. Nonetheless, the directory structures are identical within the mail directories. Yet, when I start TB on the laptop, it doesn't recognize that those directories that weren't created manually through the TB interface are there. Is there anything I can do to teach it? -- Jonathan Andrew Sheen http://www.leviathanstudios.com Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker! -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reproducing directory structures between versions of TB
Hi, Roelof, Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 9:05:50 PM, you wrote: R Hallo Jonathan, R On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:02:57 -0500GMT (22-12-2004, 2:02 +0100, where I R live), you wrote: JAS I'm using The Bat! 2.11.02, and I'm trying to make a _very_ JAS complicated directory structure and filter set work identically on JAS both my desktop and my laptop machine. It originated on my desktop. R Copy the account.* files from the account directory of your desktop to R the account directory on your laptop (while TB is shut down). R When starting TB again on your laptop, it should create all missing R directories, you'll see that all filters are present, etc. R Don't forget to create a back-up first, of course. That worked a treat! Thanks so much! JAS -- JAS Jonathan Andrew Sheen R Your signature delimiter isn't working as it should. It should consist R of dash, dash, space on a line by itself, yours seems to have an R additional space. Fixed! Thanks for the catch! -- Jonathan Andrew Sheen http://www.leviathanstudios.com Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker! -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Norton's Firewall/Antivirus and The Bat
Hello Charles, Sunday, December 19, 2004, 2:36:19 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Hello All, I have been using The Bat for several years with three different OSs on different PCs with out problems. Recently, both my wife and I purchased Sony PCV RS630G's running Windows XP Home (with SP2 installed). Both machines are behind a router and run Norton's Firewall and Antivirus. We both use The Bat Professional Edition 3.0.1.33, which runs flawlessly on her machine, but on my PC it to fail to connect to my e-mail accounts over 50% of the time. When it fails to connect, my PC want to send Microsoft an error report about ccApp.exe (a Norton's module). Rebooting the PC and/or stopping then re-starting Norton's solves the problem for awhile, but it sometimes takes two or three tries. I find this problem very frustrating. So much so that I am considering installing FireFox. But, my dear wife convinced me ask for help! I have un-installed and re-installed both Norton's and The Bat in every order I can think of. Can someone help? Thanks, Charles mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not sure why this would happen, but you should consider installing Firefox anyway as an IE substitute. But it is not a substitute for an AV and firewall. It might help others if you wrote what version of NIS you are using. Both machines are identical?? Is that correct? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 You can observe a lot just by watching. --Yogi Berra (1925 - ), Berra's Law Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Filter (was Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?)
Hello Alexander, Friday, December 17, 2004, 1:25:25 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Having used SpamPal + Bayesian plugin, PopFile lately K9, they all performed a lot better even after the shortest training periods. It's why I use Malwasher Pro. Can include multiple e-mail accounts, but working off the same spam/legit training mail base. It also includes white list/black list, dns blacklist, and user filtering (including RegEx). Everything happens on the server so nothing gets downloaded that I don't let through (though I have recently begun letting some, to train BayesIT and give it a test. Won't be the same, but will do something when I forget to run MWP first). Now if there was a Mailwasher Plugin for TB, now that WOULD be nice. You know, I think I'll e-mail Firetrust about it. Wouldn't that be cool? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. --Plato (427 BC - 347 BC) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: OT: IM clients
Hello Watcher, Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 1:01:17 PM, you wrote and sent the following: True, but just to let you know I hadn't decided on an IM yet and I found this OT very useful, thanks all. While we are OT, don't forget about Trillian Free and Pro. http://www.trillian.cc -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 I like kids, but I don't think I could eat a whole one. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Who's stealing from TB?
Hello Watcher, Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 7:52:43 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Hello tbudl, Been lurking a while but now I have a question, Every time I restart windows I have to tell TB to go ahead and reassociate EML with TB, I have tried doing it by hand but no matter what it get's switched back somehow. Any suggestions as to who the very impolite app is that's stealing the association without asking? Any other PIM manager competing for attention, like Palm Desktop? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. --Voltaire (1694 - 1778) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Who's stealing from TB?
Hello Watcher, Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 9:29:48 PM, you wrote and sent the following: Any other PIM manager competing for attention, like Palm Desktop? Nope, just outlook which I have uninstalled. Outlook's a PIM :grin: But I'm not familiar with it enough to suggest any setting changes. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
%AB Macros and Addressbook filter question
Hi All, I noticed that I was getting mail to me but that my name wasn't in the original TO or was misspelled. I cam up with this. It makes sure that the sender is consistent, and that the right alias return address is used. %FROM='%ABOTOHandle %OTOADDR' But this led me to these thoughts: Is there an easier or more logical way to do this? Is there no display name AB key word or similar that would insert the entry as it would if manually selected from the address book (might be handy when sending mail too). Right now, I take the display name and have to copy it over to the handle, but if I change something in the address book, I need to update the handle as well... How does the default address filter decide how to add addresses? Is there a better way than the default one, which seems to do add every combo of name even though the e-mail addy is obviously already in there. -- Thanks, Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Wilwilwil, Monday, December 13, 2004, 11:13:04 AM, you wrote and sent the following: Hello, Is there a way to send and receive mails from Hotmail (MSN) ? I have to use a Hotmail address (webmail) but I want to manage it with TB. Maybe a plugin ? Or something like that ? And free if possible : ;-) Not sure there is a way anymore if haven't ALREADY been using it http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,117933,00.asp POP is still available ($$), but DAV isn't or soon won't be (supposed to be gone by April 2005). It is also supposed to affect people who use tools like Mailwasher (not me, not yet, but then again, I just got my 250MB upgrade ;) . -- Andrew It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire (1694 - 1778) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Initial Cap %TOFNAME
Someone else's posts about cool templates triggered a reminder for me... Anyway, I've used TB! for years, and just recently started re-exploring the parts I've been ignoring (most macros and quick templates). Is there a way to force an initial cap in: %TOFNAME ? -- Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cool filters thread
Matt Thoene [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everyone... I know that Marck keeps a great library of templates, macros, and some filters...but I think there may be some other very cool filters out there that are not on his site. I feel like I'm not taking full advantage of how powerful the filtering is with TB. I'd like this to be a reply with your coolest filter thread. I'd start it, but the last thing mine are is cool...boring comes to mind really... Anyone?? Not a cool filter, but cool template use OK? (I'm sure they are all going to be boring cause they are all so dang personalized, no?). Something very simple, but which *I am* finding absolutely delightful. Where is that site, btw, please? My Story: Recently started looking for a new F/T job, but getting swarmed with contract e-mails. I'm sure they are mostly broadcast, but I wanted to reply EASILY on the off-chance one was legit or might lead to something (it's a volume game). (and by the way, when I came up with this it blew my mind.) I used a quick template that politely told them not me, but if you have something else F/T, sure, here's my res. I use several e-mail aliases (each job board) to track and keep the spam down, which is why I *LOVE* the first line of my template, makes sure to use the alias they sent to as the from. The handle is contract. Type that, hit Ctrl-Space, quick visual check, and then send, and I'm done. 2 seconds, tops: == %FROM=%OTOADDR Dear %TOFNAME, [yadda, yadda, Thanks, but no thanks, but here's the res.] %ATTACHFILE=C:\resumes\my_Resume.doc Attachments: %ATTACHMENTS == And then use a send filter to put it in a special Sent job sub folder. I filter on the file/attachment name. Done. -- Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Initial Cap %TOFNAME
Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Someone else's posts about cool templates triggered a reminder for me... Anyway, I've used TB! for years, and just recently started re-exploring the parts I've been ignoring (most macros and quick templates). Is there a way to force an initial cap in: %TOFNAME ? Yeah, the docs can be useful, but they aren't the beat and I've missed things in them before :) . Finally answered my own question: %CAPITALFIRST=%TOFNAME Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cool filters thread
Matt Thoene [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 2:09:42 PM [-0700], Andrew wrote: Where is that site, btw, please? I was referring to this one... http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php And it was a cool site, thanks! -- Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicate Message Search
Robin Anson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue 7 December 2004, 1:36:56 +1000, Andrew wrote: However, after exporting the those two and reimporting them into another folder (as a joke) the creation dates match. Just to confirm - that is the creation dates not the received dates? I should have been clearer, after exporting the whole test folder and reimporting it the creation dates were fixed and they now all shared the samed rec'd date (today's) -- Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicate Message Search
MFPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to TB! v3 help file:- Duplicates are detected by the following combination of message attributes: Message ID, Sender and date of creation. Further investigation would lead to the following change: Duplicates are detected by the following combination of message attributes: Message ID, Sender and date of creation as *listed* in the bat!. For a sample message, the headers are identical, the message ID, date, and sender.. however there is a two hour discrepancy in TB's interface. Message Headers (both read): Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:33:37 -0400 in TB Interface: displays as 25 Aug 2004, 2:33 PM in the local message displays as 25 Aug 2004, 12:33 PM in the imported message 2 hours went somewhere, and I don't see where in the message something like that could be set, EDT on both Yahoo and Here on the PC, but there is nowhere on the PC where such a thing would be set differently. Just sent myself a test message to test the time stamp. Seems fine. Once second, just had an idea... However, after exporting the those two and reimporting them into another folder (as a joke) the creation dates match. Remove Duplicates worked. Go figure. And no, haven't reset my PC clock recently and these were all donwloaded over the weekend. Maybe something to look into, and a way to work around it. Not a bad day's work. Thanks everybody! Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicate Message Search
After testing on a large volume of mail... That work around isn't perfect, and does still misses some of the dupes that now have everything the same. Oh, well. -- Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thousands of .MSG files?
Steven P Valliere [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If no one's noticed, explorer isn't very fast when there are 20,000+ files in a folder... (and before you ask, yes, I get far, far too much SPAM). I'll let others answer the rest, but do you not have checked Delete Attached Messages when a Message is Deleted from the Trash folder In Options Files Directories? This way, when you delete your spam, the attachments, if any, go as well? Been my experience that by having the attachments stored externally that I can find/search them better and that the bat reacts very quickly since the mailbase is smaller. In any case, in the same location you will find the dropdown list that parses out the attachments (Keep Attachment Files option). Also a setting to bind attachments for sent mail. (I messed up an earlier install when I was first starting out, as near as I can tell, TB still knows that the e-mail is supposed to have an attachment, but all the sizes are 0 bytes. Let others confirm this or maybe even a better solution, just my anectodal observations). -- Hope this helps, Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicate Message Search
Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hallo andrews, On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 07:13:23 -0800 (PST)GMT (5-12-2004, 16:13 +0100, where I live), you wrote: AMG Curious as to how TB! does its duplicate message AMG search. Never had trouble with it before, but now... IIRC on Message-ID Thanks Roelof, then it isn't working fully, or there are some other criteria in play. I checked the RFC headers of some dupes and they had identical message IDs (also explains why the sent folder never found any dupes, no Message ID). Using the bat for a long long time now, used to these little quirks. Though I've lately taken an interest in exploring all the features I got used to ignoring!!! I'll be back, but let's hope they fix it in the next release (assuming they don't charge for it :) ) Using TB! 3.0.1.33 -- Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Where is the Address Book stored?
Hi, All, I had to re-install my operating system, and I've found that my address-book has gone bye-bye (So had a lot of stuff, but I managed to restore most of it.) Where's the address book actually stored? I'm hoping the file is still on this computer, and I can re-import the old book. -- Jonathan Andrew Sheen http://www.leviathanstudios.com Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker! -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where is the Address Book stored?
Hi, Alexander, Saturday, October 30, 2004, 6:12:43 AM, you wrote: A Hello Jonathan Andrew Sheen everyone else A 30-Okt-2004 11:36, you wrote: I had to re-install my operating system, and I've found that my address-book has gone bye-bye (So had a lot of stuff, but I managed to restore most of it.) Where's the address book actually stored? I'm hoping the file is still on this computer, and I can re-import the old book. A Its in The Bat's MAIL directory (either in the program directory or in the A path where your data is stored). The extension is ABD, the default A address book is named TheBat.ABD here. Many, many thanks! -- Jonathan Andrew Sheen http://www.leviathanstudios.com Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker! -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: where are the filters stored?
Hi, Marek, Monday, September 27, 2004, 11:39:25 AM, you wrote: M Hello all, M Monday, September 27, 2004, Terry G. Munson wrote: I tried moving TB to a new machine. I used the backup/restore tools to move my accounts and e-mails to the new machine. The problem is that none of my filters show up on the new machine. Where are the sorting filters stored? M from version 3.0, filters are stored in a file ACCOUNT.SRB. How about previous versions? -- Jonathan Andrew Sheen http://www.leviathanstudios.com Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker! -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: List of shortcut keys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Shortcut_eng.html 404 not found! http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html -- -- Jonathan Andrew Sheen Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker! -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No more colons
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
Hello Peter Meyns,
03-Sep-2004 17:53, you wrote:
MM Arrow brackets, I suppose, but am not quite sure.
Angle brackets. These are the arrow ones: {}
I always thought these {} were called curly brackets. Well... :-)
When I went to school, they were braces.
--
Jonathan Andrew Sheen
Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker!
-Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01
Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Re: MyMacro %SmartQuote: Any configuration ideas, phrases or strings
Hello! MLW %SmartQuote from MyMacros 1.11 allows users to add strings and phrases MLW for smartquote to delete to help create a clean quote. MLW What are some of the strings and phrases that are being used out MLW there? I've included some in help file but it's quite poor for english messages -- most of my correspondence goes in russian. So your help in making a good list is welcome. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows XP; MyMacros 1.11a BayesIt! 0.5.10; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.7.0.172 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyMacros 1.11a
Hello! MyMacros 1.11a http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/ [-] %KeybLayout didn't work in 1.11 ps: Your feedback about %CounterToDate and %SmartQuotes is appreciated, please send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows XP; MyMacros 1.11a BayesIt! 0.5.10; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.7.0.172 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %smartquote in MyMacro 1.11 erases quoted text
Hello! MLW I have been trying the %smartquote from the latest MYMacros 1.11. MLW It seems to do nothing by erase the text that should be quoted. MLW Anyone using it successfully? I do :) Could you be more specific please? -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows XP; MyMacros 1.11 BayesIt! 0.5.10; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.7.0.172 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyMacros 1.11
Hello! Missed me? :) MyMacros 1.11 is released. http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/ What's new: [+] added %SmartQuotes [+] added %RegExpReplace, changed behaviour of %RegExp [+] added %CountAttachments, %OCountAttachments [*] added new length parameter in %GetLine(text, from, length) [-] bugfix in %StrTr, when performing rot-translation [-] now %Prefix reacts not only on CRLF, but LF as well [*] added new macros in test mode, %DateToCounter and %CounterToDate, for date and time calculations [*] removed %RegExpBlind as a buggy one (couldn't fix) Jfyi: MyGate development is temporarily suspended, sorry... -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP; MyMacros 1.11 BayesIt! 0.5.5; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.7.0.172 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2.12.00 : Default addressbook problem
Rick, Thursday, July 15, 2004, 12:20:17 AM, you wrote: RF Andrew wrote: AC I have TB! set up with two Account Groups, one for me, one for my wife, .. and in both AC Groups' Account Properties the default addressbook is set to default. AC Under 2.11.02 (and before), I see just my folders and just my addressbook, and my AC wife sees just her folders and just her addressbook. AC I just tried the upgrade to 2.12.00 and can't get this behaviour. The folder view works AC as before, but if I open my addressbook in my Group, it shows up also in my wife's AC group, and vice versa. Switched back to 2.11.2 and everything works as before. RF I find I have the same problem. It worked fine with 2.11.02 but now, RF with 2.12, other groups see my address and I can see theirs. Also, RF I have created some templates for use with certain people in my RF address book. If someone in another group starts a new message to RF someone who happens to be in my address book, their new message starts RF with the template I set up! The trail seems to have gone cold on this (I've just got back from holiday). Did you find a solution? I get the same template behaviour you reported. This makes 2.12 a no-no for me. Perhaps I should report it as a bug, but I find it odd nobody else seems to find it a problem. -- Regards, Andrew Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder size limit not working ?
Hey rich, My MUA believes '(X-Mailer not set)' was used to write mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 7:00:08 PM. rg You had it work at one time? I have never been able yet to make a rg folder limit itself to X messages (or delete if older than X days). rg I've been over over all my settings with this support list and still rg no good. rg Now on 2.04.7. It didn't work earlier either though. Yes, it used to work. I have to admit though that I have not checked it since before moving to v2. I was just looking around and noticed I had well over 100k messages in one of my accounts... I have pruned it down manually for some folders, but there are over 300 folders :-(. -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v2.12.00 Buffet. A French word that means Get up get it yourself! Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder size limit not working ?
Hey Roelof, My MUA believes '(X-Mailer not set)' was used to write mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 3:25:56 AM. RO The only thing that might cause problems would be the amount of RO free space both on the drive with your temp files or the amount of TM | 07/21/2004 06:45p 44,492,307 MESSAGES.TBB TM | 07/21/2004 06:45p 5,033,188 MESSAGES.TBI TM |2 File(s) 49,525,495 bytes TM |2 Dir(s) 1,968,627,712 bytes free RO I would've believed you without the 'evidence'. LOL, when in doubt... :-) RO The only thing I can think now is that your message base might be RO corrupted. It has been in the recent past, I had to have a system board replaced in my notebook. What I did then is create a REPAIR folder and Parked folder under it. Move all but the corrupt messages (no on parked) to Repair, then move all parked to Parked :-). Delete the messages.tbb and .tbi files, run a check integrity/repair on the repair folder, then put the parked messages back (and mark em parked) followed by moving all the other messages back. RO Create a new folder RO Move all messages from tbbeta to your new folder RO Close TB RO Delete the messages.tbb and .tbi files in your tbbeta directory RO Start TB RO Move all messages from your new folder to tbbeta RO Try the maintenance action again. Ok, I did that (even closing TB at every step, which I have never needed to do before, but I figured, what the heck :-). I ran a the maint on both the temp folder before moving back, and again on the tbbeta foder after moving. No luck! :-( well, we did make some progress... It purged 1 message). TBBETA now has over 9k msgs, and is set to only keep 90 days and 8000. Not including the parked messages, I have them back to Jan of 2004. -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v2.12.00 My family coat of arms ties at the back ... is that normal? Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Having trouble setting up acount
Hello, DG Why not send a test message and see what happens. J I did and it appears OK but, like I said, I know very little about J email headers so I could be interpreting it incorrectly. RO It's easy. Look at the from header as it's displayed by TB. As long as RO that displays Your Name Your address you're fine. Great. The sending part is working fine. I'll have to figure out how to leave messages (not delete) on the other server in order to receive the messages but this is a big improvement already. Thanks for the help. :) -- Jack Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons Help
Hi, On 7/22/2004 10:25 PM my time, Rick wrote: RF It worked! I see you. :grin: Thats just soo cool :Thumbup: -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder size limit not working ?
Hallo Ben, On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:29:13 +0100GMT (22-7-2004, 13:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BA Yes i do but then i found an option which made the compress and purge BA on exit work. Hadn't checked the option in folder properties to tell BA TB for that folder to remove old messages and compress the folder on BA exit. Like duh. Ah well found it... Ah. I misread your message then. I thought you meant that you had checked those, since you wrote: BA However I haven't quite been able to get the folders to purge BA themselves automatically, even though the options to purge and BA compress upon closing TB! is enabled And therefore I started to look for what might be relevant. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder size limit not working ?
Hey Roelof, My MUA believes '(X-Mailer not set)' was used to write mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 3:18:52 AM. RO I don't know whether it's relevant, but have you got Account - RO Properties - Options - 'Compress all folders on exit' enabled? I RO have and as I said purging and compressing on exit works fine with RO me. No, I didn't. I don't want to wait for TB when I shut down my workstation. I did give it a try, also setting purge/compress in my folder properties, but no luck with either option. -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v2.12.00 In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
