MAPI and white window - TB! not releasing control?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Y'all,

A while back, I asked about a problem where some of my applications
freeze with white screens when I attempt to email from them - until
the email is sent. At that time I didn't get a response from anyone
here, so I'll try again. I've been in contact with the programmer of
one of the programs I use and have copied our interchange below.

MaggieIs the 'problem' on both sides? For instance, if there is
Maggiesomething small which can be tweaked for it to work from your side if
Maggiethey do such and such?

 Possibly. From my recollection of the problems you described, the
 main issue seems to be that when an application (Atlantis or
 anything else) sends an email to the Bat using the MAPI calls, the
 problem seems to be that the Bat does not return control to the
 calling application until the email has actually been sent by the
 user. This means that the calling application is locked up until
 then. However, other email programs (such as Eudora and Outlook)
 accept the email and return control to the calling application
 straight away. The user is then free to edit/send/cancel the email
 at their leisure whilst the calling application continues.

 You could try sending the above paragraph to the Bat guys to see if they
 have any comments on it.

Also, when using MAPI to send these mails, it is necessary - for each
email - to type in a password. Is there a setting in TB! which permits
the password to stick?

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Regards,
  Maggie


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Re[2]: html fonts resize

[Maggie Meister]

Hi George,

On Wednesday, 15 November, 2006 at 4:32:34 PM you wrote:

 Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF Put your cursor in the mail and hit crtl+. This will increase
TF the size.

 Well.  That's much easier than what I proposed.  I actually tried
 variations like that but they don't work on my laptop.  Unless I hold
 the Function key and use the numeric keypad equivalents.  Which it
 never occurs to me to do.

 Reverting to lurk mode...


  

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Regards,
  Maggie


Physics tells us that for every action, there is an equal and opposite 
reaction. They hate us, we hate them, they hate us back. And so, here we are, 
victims of mathematics! -Londo Mollari
 
   



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Re[2]: html fonts resize

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Chris,

On Wednesday, 15 November, 2006 at 9:54:36 PM you wrote:

 So I learned that while holding Ctrl+Enter, the mail that's in
 focus is sent. Whoops!

 I have re-mapped Ctrl+Enter to Put in outbox and Shift+F2 to Send
 Now for that reason (among other).

Well, I should have left well enough alone. That remapping thing is
like spaghetti. While attempting to re-map the Ctrl+Enter I somehow
changed the size of the glyphs on the toolbar. Don't ask, I don't know
how. Wow, those guys at Ritlabs must be teeny-boppers with 20/15
vision! I went to Miroslav's page and downloaded the glyphs there, but
a re-start of TB! shows the same tiny icons. Is there a how-to
somewhere on this? I have read the thread Alternate Icon Sets here
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg53808.html
and made sure the .png and .ini were copied to Program Files\The Bat!

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  Maggie


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creatures, and cats like authors for the same reasons. -Robertson
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Re[4]: html fonts resize

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Stuart,

On Thursday, 16 November, 2006 at 7:32:13 PM you wrote:

MM While attempting to re-map the Ctrl+Enter I somehow
MM changed the size of the glyphs on the toolbar. Don't ask, I don't know
MM how. 

 When  you go into customize and select the Standard container on the
 left, you should see a dropdown box on the lower right side that gives
 you  two  choices, toolbar or menu icons. For large icons it should
 say toolbar.

  Right, Stuart, it worked after I re-started. Thank you very much!
  whew!

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Re: Spam mail

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Peter,

On Monday, 27 November, 2006 at 8:00:58 PM you wrote:

 lately I get a lot of spam with the subject line: name wrote:
 As I hear lots of people are getting the same.

Yes, I am receiving them, too.

 I use Bayes Filter Plugin,
 for spam filter, it doesn't filter them out.

I use AGAVA AntispamServant and they are being automatically filtered
to the junk folder. I did not have to do anything.

 Is there a way I can add a
 filter somewhere in the configuration that if the subject line is wrote:
 it should go to the junk mail folder.

Sorry I couldn't help with a filter.

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Re[2]: MAPI problem

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Daniel,

On Sunday, 03 December, 2006 at 9:11:23 AM you wrote:

DŁ I hve the problem with Bat and MAPI. ...
DŁ  When the apps (e.g. 40tude Dialog)
DŁ call The Bat trough MAPI The Bat window is brought but with no new
DŁ message window, and the source application freeze.

Mark Go back to .03.

 It's a Beta (alpha) problem.


 I returned - but the problem still exist :(


  Yes, it's been a problem for a long time through many versions. My
  problem was also 40tude, but also Atlantis Wordprocessor.

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Re[2]: MAPI problem

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Mark,

On Sunday, 03 December, 2006 at 10:39:52 AM you wrote:

DŁ I hve the problem with Bat and MAPI. ...
DŁ  When the apps (e.g. 40tude Dialog)
DŁ call The Bat trough MAPI The Bat window is brought but with no new
DŁ message window, and the source application freeze.

Mark Go back to .03.

 It's a Beta (alpha) problem.


 I returned - but the problem still exist :(


MM   Yes, it's been a problem for a long time through many versions. My
MM   problem was also 40tude, but also Atlantis Wordprocessor.

 Specific with that (those) programs then? Sorry, I don't use those...

Well, since I use them both a lot, those are the ones I see affected,
so I included that info in case the problem had something to do with
their 'compatibility' with TB!

 I suppose the problem won't have anything to do with this, then:

 ,--/ from a message in TBBETA \
 |  I had the same problem on my machine.  The new Alphas (Betas?) destroy
 |  Mapi32.dll and cause the following problems.
 |  
 |  a) cannot send mail from programs like MSWord, Corel, Power Point etc
 |  b) destroy the ability of RIM Blackberry software to work correctly on
 |  my machine.
 |  c) causes instability on the machine in general
 |  
 |  If this problem could be resolved, I think the Alpha will work well.
 |  
 |  In the meantime, here is a fix that I've used that works extremely
 |  well.
 |  
 |  Tools to fix the mapi32.dll file
 |  
 |  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;813602
 `-8---

 Personally, I did not have the above problem. Going back from .07 or .08 to
 .03 solved them problem for me.

There was a small discussion with Marek a few months ago about this
MAPI problem, but it wasn't exactly as you described. I have had
problems with the MAPI interface with all programs from Esoteric
Technologies, and Rising Sun Solutions, as well as 40tude, where the
program freezes (window of program becomes blank, white screen). The
change with the last few betas of TB! added that the new email doesn't
even open. In 3.80.06, if you try to email a document from within Open
Office, the Microsoft product opens.

The fix mentioned in the TBBETA message you quoted talks about Outlook
which I don't have on my system, so I'm not sure how it could help me.
Thank you for trying, Mark. :-)

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  Maggie


It's a noble goal that science should be apolitical, acultural, and
asocial, but it can't be, because it's done by people who are all
those things. -Mae Jemison
 
   



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Re[2]: TB! still has negative image

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Mary,

On Friday, 15 December, 2006 at 4:48:10 AM you wrote:

 And then you use the %SetHeader macro to define its value. There
 isn't much more to explain on this subject.

 Roelof, I guess it slipped your mind that TBUDL doesn't allow
 attachments? Only TBBETA?

 I did mine by following my X-Rogue pattern:

With a library you are free, not confined by temporary political climates.

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  Maggie


How quick come the reasons for approving what we like! -Jane Austen

   



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Re[3]: TB! still has negative image

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Maggie,

On Friday, 15 December, 2006 at 6:06:51 AM you wrote:

 Hi Mary,

 On Friday, 15 December, 2006 at 4:48:10 AM you wrote:

 And then you use the %SetHeader macro to define its value. There
 isn't much more to explain on this subject.

 Roelof, I guess it slipped your mind that TBUDL doesn't allow
 attachments? Only TBBETA?

 I did mine by following my X-Rogue pattern:

 With a library you are free, not confined by temporary political climates.

  That was supposed to be a 'thank you, Mary', not a stray cookie! I
  think it's working here now.
  

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  Maggie


Even when laws have been written down, they ought not always to remain 
unaltered. -Aristotle
 
   



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Re[2]: TB! still has negative image

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Mary,

On Friday, 15 December, 2006 at 7:30:13 AM you wrote:

 I think it's working here now.

 I'm so glad. Feels like the old days, a bit, to me, when we were
 beta-testing X-Rogue on TBOT.

  :banana:

  I wonder why it would be necessary to copy the macro to the address
  book templates? Those people would be used to receiving mail from
  you, so their systems wouldn't choke on TB!, yes?

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  Maggie


Technology is merely mankind's method of mimicking the metaphysical. Daniel 
Will-Harris http://frickingenius.blogspot.com/
 
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Re[2]: TB! still has negative image

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Mary,

On Friday, 15 December, 2006 at 8:44:13 AM you wrote:

 I wonder why it would be necessary to copy the macro to the address
 book templates? Those people would be used to receiving mail from
 you, so their systems wouldn't choke on TB!, yes?

 Was just an extra precaution--in case their IP or ISP suddenly decided
 to get aggressive about filtering Spam, the way Comcast.net did
 recently.

OK, yes, I understand now.

 Not hard to do if you're using a Quick Template called with the
 Qinclude macro.

Terra incognita here.

 One by one, manually, I admit it's a bit time-consuming.

Well, that is the reason why I looked for an excuse to not do them...

 And as you say, likely unnecessary, anyway. :)

Hope so, and thanks again for the clarification.

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Re: Test

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Robin,

On Thursday, 29 March, 2007 at 6:58:46 AM you wrote:

RA I have been unable to post to this mailing list for *weeks* now.

That's because you're so far away. :-)  Hearing you loud and clear.

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Help|General Preferences item omitted

[Maggie Meister]

Hello Bats,

  In General Preferences, the second to the last item on the screen:
  *Run The Bat!when Windows starts*, there are two sub-items. The first,
  *only when Windows has not been shut down properly* I don't
  understand. How can TB! be run if Windows has not been shut down
  properly?

  This item in the General Preferences Help screen was skipped.

-- 

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Re[2]: Help|General Preferences item omitted

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Thomas,

On Monday, 23 July, 2007 at 11:17:03 AM you wrote:

TF If your computer crashes (for example due to a power failure), Windows
TF has not been shut down properly. If you restart it, it can relaunch
TF TB! in these instances.

TF Some people want that. And they don't want TB! to launch automatically
TF each time they boot up the computer.

Thanks for showing another point of view, Thomas. I couldn't
understand it because to not start TB! along with the computer would
be pointless to me.

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  Maggie
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balances are correct. This every sister of the Bene Gesserit knows.
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Re[2]: .EML associations don't remain sticky

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Mark,

On Sunday, September 02, 2007 at 4:39:59 AM you wrote:

MP Go back to 3.99.3 and see if it happens again (I think it won't).


  When going back to 3.99.3 I received this error message:
  Internal Error 2753 thebat.exe.BBD$A38C_B875_4E46_B27C_5CAECB025

  TB! started 3.99.24 after I made sure the launch box was ticked.

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Re[2]: Filter Help

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Christopher,

On Monday, January 21, 2008 at 12:09:16 AM you wrote:

C Thomas Fernandez @ 2008-1-20 7:56:57 PM
C Filter Help mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Please post the filters without the  at the beginning. The way
 you posted them, I would have to copy from your mail into a word
 processor, take all these quote marks out manually, and then copy
 from there into the Sorting Office.

C If you copy it into a new message, then you can hold down ALT and do a
C columnar selection.

I always used to do a right click and choose Block type|Column. ALT is
MUCH easier! Thanks, Chris.
  

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Saving/Opening attachment

[Maggie Meister]

Hello Bats,

  When opening an rtf or doc attachment, I notice it is opened read-only.

Is there somewhere a preference I'm missing to set this to never open as 
read-only?

Please don't tell me this is a feature! :-( 

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Re[2]: Saving/Opening attachment

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Marek,

On Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 11:20:04 AM you wrote:

M yes, it was requested by many users to have teporary files opened in temp as 
read
M only, because users edited this temporary file and lost changes, when
M closed editor

Ah, pity there's no option.

M Frankly, it is easy to save that file to drive and edit.

Yes it it easy.

Thanks, Marek.  

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  Maggie


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Kerr

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Address book and New Message Template

[Maggie Meister]

Hello Bats,

  I have a new message template in the address book for a couple with whom I 
correspond. They both have different email addresses.  In the first name line 
in the address book, I have Joe and Sue. The Display Name As is User Defined. 
The Display Name is Joe and Sue. 

The new message template says Dear Joe and Sue.

If I choose a new email from the New Message button in the address book when 
their name is highlighted, all is well and the new message reads: Dear Joe and 
Sue.  

If I create a message by calling a new message from the main screen and using 
their nickname (handle), the salutation says Dear Joe only.

How can I get the new message to read Dear Joe and Sue when using the nickname 
to call a new message? 

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Re[2]: Address book and New Message Template

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Mark,

On Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 3:55:15 PM you wrote:

MM If I choose a new email from the New Message button in the address book
MM when their name is highlighted, all is well and the new message reads: 
Dear Joe and Sue.

MM If I create a message by calling a new message from the main screen and
MM using their nickname (handle), the salutation says Dear Joe only.

MM How can I get the new message to read Dear Joe and Sue when using the 
nickname to call a new message?

MP Perhaps I'm missing something, but what's wrong with simply putting
MP Dear Joe and Sue (without quotes of course  instead of using a macro)
MP in the AB - New Message Template, meanwhile not forgetting to tick use
MP specific template for new messages (translated - text may be slightly
MP different)???

Yes, I did that, I did not use a macro. The address book template says Dear Joe 
and Sue, but it only shows up that way if I create the new email from the New 
button in the address book window, NOT if I am in the main screen calling up a 
New message and using the handle in the To:  address line to address their 
mail. The result is only Dear Joe.

Understandably this is hard to understand (even for me, and I wrote it!)  
Thanks for taking a look at this for me.

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  Maggie


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Re[2]: Address book and New Message Template

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Mark,

On Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 5:04:08 PM you wrote:

MP Before writing I tried that out and it worked as expected.

MP Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB?

I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their own 
handles.
  

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Re[2]: Address book and New Message Template

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Mark,

On Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 6:05:09 PM you wrote:

MP Are there any AB New Message templates active for those?

No, I checked. There are also no folder templates either. 

MP If not, what happens when you activate one for him in which you put
MP Dear Joe and Sue or whatever [f.i. you could also use something like
MP The miserable life of a toilet blessed with a severe form of Mysophobia]

chortle!  When I put in The miserable... into the AB New Message template, 
if I chose a new message from the main screen, it still said Dear Joe.  Using 
the New Message button on the Address Book toolbar with their handle, I got 
The miserable So weird.

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Re[2]: Address book and New Message Template

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Robin,

On Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 10:08:50 PM you wrote:

RA On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 at 17:24:00 -0500, Maggie wrote:
MP Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB?

 I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their 
 own handles.

RA I have a suspicion that when called from the main screen, TB! just
RA looks for the first entry in the address book with the particular
RA email address. So if all 3 entries have the same email address,
RA although you call the joint entry by nickname, it still goes back and
RA finds Joe's solitary entry when looking for the template to use.

I tried reversing the names and it now calls Sue instead of Joe.

I tried entering a bogus couple with a fictitious address, using an AB template 
with Dear Bill and Jane, (no macro) and got a proper Dear Bill and Jane. There 
were no other addresses for them.

So, I then decided to delete Joe's address, shut down, and re-enter it. Lo and 
behold, I received this:
---
Application Error
---
Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module thebat.exe at 0003CF75. Resource 
leak: 8 instance(s) of TBatCriticalSection left
Caller addresses listed below: 
  00ADE377  00AFC323  00AFC323  00AFC323  00AFC323
  00AFC323  00AFC323  00AFC323. 
---
OK   
---

There was another error message at the same time about a pointer, but it went 
by too fast to get it all.

Am hanging up the gloves for tonight and will resume the bout tomorrow when I 
will try your following. Thanks, Robin.

RA Try changing the email address (temporarily) in the address book entry
RA for him alone, and creating an email from the main screen. If it then
RA goes to the AB template from the joint entry (or even the one for Sue
RA alone) it will prove this to be the case.

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  Maggie


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Re: (OT) Passing of Kevin Coates

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Peter,

Thank you for the notice, Peter. Kevin was a very helpful and honorable person 
and he will be missed. 


On Monday, January 28, 2008 at 3:45:29 PM you wrote:

PM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
PM Hash: RIPEMD160

PM Dear all,

PM as I learned today, Kevin Coates has passed away. After years of
PM battling cancer, he finally succumbed.

PM Here is what Mike Daigle said on the GSWoT list (Gossamer Spider Web
PM of Trust, where Kevin was also a member):

PM ,-
PM | It is with heavy heart that I announce the passing of Kevin Coates.
PM | 
PM | Kevin and I had been virtual acquaintances since the forming of the
PM | GSWoT. We would chat almost daily, and even had our local mail servers
PM | set to send mail to each other's PC directly. We often experimented with
PM | new software. Two heads are better than one, after all. Kevin will be
PM | dearly missed.
PM `-

PM I can only sign this. It was much alike here, albeit in 2003-2005
PM relating to The Bat! and PGP issues.

PM Many of you will also remember him, as he was very active on PGP
PM issues as well as The Bat!'s development.


  

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  Maggie


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for a dialogue. -bell hooks

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Selective restore?

[Maggie Meister]

Hello Bats,

I would like to try to retrieve a folder of mail on an old backup
(even just to view its contents) but I don't want my present
folders to be overwritten. Is there a way to do this short of
installing another copy of TB! on another machine and doing a
full restore there? Thanks for any help you can give.

-- 
Best regards,
 Maggie 

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Re[2]: Selective restore?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Roelof,

On Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 5:32:54 PM you wrote:

MM I would like to try to retrieve a folder of mail on an old backup
MM (even just to view its contents) but I don't want my present
MM folders to be overwritten.

RO Can't be done. Only solution would an install on a different
RO computer (like you suggested,) copy your current mail directory
RO to a safe location and copy it back after the restore or to create a
RO backup, restore the old backup and afterwards restore the new backup.


RO I'd prefer the first option.

OK, thank you. The first option it is.

Someday, it would be nice to have that ability.

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Re[2]: Selective restore?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi MFPA,

On Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 6:12:28 PM you wrote:

M Run another copy on the same machine using something like
M Sandboxie?

  Brilliant looking program. I had no idea something like this
  existed. Off to try it now. Thanks a million!

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Re[2]: Selective restore?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Roelof,

On Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 6:28:57 PM Roelof and MFPA wrote:

MFPA Run another copy on the same machine using something like
MFPA Sandboxie?

RO so unless sandboxie
RO remaps directories and such you're out of luck.
RO That's why I didn't suggest running TB with another registry set.

Let me see if I understand: if I want to see one folder in an
old backup, I would need to restore the entire tbk.  I could
restore this more safely if this were done on a
different/old/spare machine where I wouldn't have to worry about
either losing messages, but setups, too.

I thought sanboxie might be able to do it on the same machine if
it were capable of holding a copy of TB! to which I could
restore, then just dump the whole thing later. With the registry
involved though shudder maybe the separate machine is the
better deal for me.
  
Sandboxie may be useful for something else though. Neat concept!

Thanks again Roelof.  Welcome back to the shackles.

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Re[2]: Selective restore?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi MAU,

On Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 6:52:04 PM you wrote:

M I run Send Copy (http://www.secondcopy.com/) every night and I never
M have any problem restoring any file I may need.

The story without the details of the switchover, the free Vaio
laptop, the horror of Vista, and the incomplete restore of TB!
from the external harddrive, is that two folders didn't come
over. It was one of those lost folders I would like to see now
(all my program registrations, sn#'s, etc., including TB!) and I
just *know* they are there in that backup.

Needless to say, since that horse is out of the barn, I've
switched to storing that information in NeoMem:
http://neomem.org/

M After I had purchased Second Copy I discovered SyncBack freeware that does
M pretty much the same.

M http://www.2brightsparks.com/downloads.html#freeware

Thanks for these two links. I will check them out.

I wonder, would it be a possible thing (programming-wise) to add
a partial or selective restore function to TB! Or, even a partial
backup function? I'm probably not the only one who would have
use of it. If it is not possible to do, I wouldn't bother
wishing then. :-)

-- 

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  Maggie


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Re[2]: Selective restore?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi MAU,

On Monday, February 11, 2008 at 5:56:16 AM you wrote:

M For passwords, registrations codes and other 'critical' data I've been
M using PINs for some years. 

M http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/pins.html

M And, of course, the file(s) it uses is backed up daily along with email
M and other things.

PINs seems to be about high security - I'm sure with all the
holes in my setup, a really interested person could find out
whatever they want in a heartbeat. What I would like is just to
keep the great jumble of passwords and codes in one place where I
can find the right one when I need it, that is why I was using a
folder in TB! named passwords and registrations. When a company
would send me my password and registration details by email, off
to that folder it would go. Probably not a really secure way of
operating, but I've come to believe that there is no secure.

-- 

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  Maggie


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Re[2]: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Maggie Meister]

Hello George and Dwight,

On Wednesday, March 19, 2008 at 1:30:20 AM you wrote:

DC On Tuesday, March 18, 2008, 3:37:30 PM, Volker Ahrendt wrote:

 Why should I not move parked messages and keep the Parked flag?

DC You can't have a message be parked and moved at the same time. It
DC would be like having a door locked and open it the same time.

How about a command that allows 'secure move'?

GM like the Agent newsreader's Keep flag which just prevents against 
GM accidental deletion/purging.  Just because I want to protect a message
GM doesn't mean I don't want to organize it.

Absolutely agree. In my Lists subfolders I have TBUDL, TBBETA, and 
TBParked. I park some messages in the first two, but don't get around 
to moving them for a while - when I do, they all unpark of course, 
into the Parked folder, where they then need to be reparked 'just in 
case'.   

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  Maggie


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something, wearing stripes with plaid comes easy. -Einstein

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Re[2]: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Dwight,

On Wednesday, March 19, 2008 at 10:10:41 AM you wrote:

DC What is the point of parking messages if you park them all?

Oh, I don't park them *all* just some, as I mentioned..

DC To me the
DC whole notion of parking a message is to make it impossible to delete.

Yes.

DC Why one should be able to delete a parked message by moving it flies
DC in the face of the whole notion.

I don't want to delete the parked message, just move it to another 
folder.

Doug Weller in his message of today at 10:41 where I am, elucidated
what I'm thinking.

DougW I want to be able to protect a message against deletion and 
DougW then organise it the way I want to organise it.

If someone makes a wish about this feature, I will support it.

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  Maggie


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Changes in port setting

[Maggie Meister]

Hello Bats,

All of a sudden I wasn't getting mail. Discovered that the SMTP port
setting had changed from 25 to 585. I didn't change it. The same thing
happened to another TB! user - theirs was a different server than
mine. Is this The Bat! or is it gremlins?

Has anyone else had a problem like this? Thanks for insights.

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Re[2]: Changes in port setting

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Thomas,

On Friday, August 01, 2008 at 11:19:32 AM you wrote:

MM All of a sudden I wasn't getting mail. Discovered that the SMTP port
MM setting had changed from 25 to 585. I didn't change it. The same thing
MM happened to another TB! user - theirs was a different server than
MM mine. Is this The Bat! or is it gremlins?

TF Gremlins. Definitely. ;-)

I thought so. Thank you so much, Thomas. My technical expertise is 
improving!

MM Has anyone else had a problem like this? Thanks for insights.

TF No, gremlins are not allowed in this country.

lol 

TF Seriously though, I am surprised this happens, but then, we are using
TF Windows. But what bothers me more is that the same thing is confirmed
TF by another TB! user. Hm. Coincidences on this level don't usually
TF happen in computing.

Lots of squirrelly things now.

TF As Henrik pointed out, SMTP is for sending, POP is for retrieving
TF messages.  Did you have any change in port number for receiving
TF messages? 
No change in POP, it was 110.

TF And, what was the error message in the log when you couldn't
TF download mails?

Well, I just looked at the log which only shows today's activity. I'm 
not exactly sure what it said (yesterday).  Sorry! 

Recently I had to reinstall TB! onto the emergency laptop while my 
Toshiba learns its fate at the hands of the techs. All the settings 
were checked at that time.  

I thought to have seen something about this on the list, but I guess 
not.  Thanks for the smile.  

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Re: docking main menu problem

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Luc,

On Monday, August 25, 2008 at 11:52:48 PM you wrote:

L  Somehow i managed to undock the main menu tool bar and now can't
L  seem to dock it back in it's place (above accounts, messages etc
L  pane). Using the full-width preview pane as window split mode. Is
L  there some unknown trick to that i'm not aware off?

No unknown trick, just patience. :-) Hover the mouse over the left end
of the toolbar where you see the vertical dotted line (very faint -
same color as bar) until it turns into a cross with arrows, then drag
it to wherever you need it.

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Re[2]: Speaking of signatures

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Rick,

On Tuesday, August 26, 2008 at 2:08:15 PM you wrote:

R I use only the Bat. Whenever I compose a new message the template uses
R the line:

R %COOKIE=C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\My Documents\mail account 
exports\politics.txt

I find it best to store the cookie file as you do, in My Documents
because it is backed up AND if you have to go to a new computer, the
cookies are brought over with the other documents; not in a Program
Files folder that is re-created without your cookie document when
downloading a new TheBat!. 

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Re[2]: Speaking of signatures

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Dwight,

On Tuesday, August 26, 2008 at 5:44:45 PM you wrote:

DC On Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 12:58:46 PM, Gary Lucas wrote:

 I have
 Kookiejar put a random cookie in cookie.txt every 5 min. 

DC and you are stuck with their cookies. With TB! you can have cookies
DC which are not just bland cookies, but things you think are amusing or
DC informative or important or whatever kind of cookies you are looking
DC for.

Yes, and when the cookies mean something to you, and they match what
you are emailing about - that cookidence (thank you Leif) just makes
it perfect.

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  Maggie


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 -- Brendan Gill

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Re[2]: Speaking of signatures

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Christopher,

On Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 12:56:41 AM you wrote:

CW I assume it is an extension joke based on the name of a venerable Unix
CW program, fortune.

remembering The world is coming to an end - flush all buffers!

This appeared on a Unix system at 5:01 PM, just before the shaking
started at the 1989 San Francisco quake at 5:02. :-D 

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  Maggie


After twelve years of therapy my psychiatrist said something that
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Re[2]: Speaking of signatures

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Thomas,

On Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 12:04:01 PM you wrote:

TF Hello Maggie,

TF On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:17:06 -0400 GMT (27/08/2008, 21:17 +0700 GMT),
TF Maggie Meister wrote:

TF Rather than laughing, this just caused goosebumps over here. I hope
TF this is an urban legend!

No, no legend. insert Twilight Zone theme It was my partner's
client, a cartage and warehousing company - when the sysadmin started
the backup at close of business, that is the message which popped up.
Caused some interesting reactions and gives new meaning to cookidence.

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Re[2]: Speaking of signatures

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Thomas,

On Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 1:11:13 PM you wrote:

TF Another question: Are you subscribed to TBOT?

No, not anymore.

TF  I smell a fish...

You're right. Apologies to the group. 

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Re: Toolbar icon bug in 4.0.34?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Mean,

On Saturday, September 13, 2008 at 2:51:46 AM you wrote:

MD Any solutions?

No solution, just a confirmation - here, too.   Can no longer make out 
the toolbar without my glasses. 

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Re: One time encryption

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Jack,

On Monday, September 15, 2008 at 4:23:31 PM you wrote:

JSL Fellow list members,

JSL I need to send credit card info to a vendor in payment for a part yet
JSL to be shipped. Is there an easy way to encrypt the info so it can't be
JSL read if it's intercepted in transit and yet *can* be read by the
JSL recipient? Or am I worrying about nothing?

We have renters for our cabin send two emails splitting the card
between them. If you want, have them send three with the CVV in the 
third. No one has complained of problems.  

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Re: Upgrading to v7.0.0.56 icon animation

[Maggie Meister]

Thanks Thomas, Rick and Fred, I've forwarded your mails to her
and hope by the time I give up my XP for the 'new' HP 2740P that
the flapping will not be a problem. :-D   G-d, it's been so long 
I almost top posted. :eek:

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Upgrading to v7.0.0.56 icon animation

[Maggie Meister]

Hello Bats,

My partner recently upgraded from 4.2 to the current version on a
Win 7 and noticed that the icon in the taskbar doesn't flap when 
mail is received. The Bat! program window icon flaps and the 
popup mini window has a flapping icon when hovering over the 
taskbar icon, but not the taskbar icon itself. I checked to see 
if the  Preferences|General|icon animation box was checked and it 
is. Do any of you know if this is Win7 behavior or is it 
something changed from TBat4?  We must have flapping!

BTW, a sigh of relief was heard when TheBat flawlessly brought
over all the old files to the 'new' machine. The old TB wasn't
even installed, only sitting in the downloads directory. Bringing
over the Thunderbird mails from the Linux machine however was
another story.

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Robert,

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:41:18 PM you wrote:

RB> Yes, indeed  :)  There are clearly gaps in the Help file; pity these
RB> nuggets aren't collected into some kind of knowledge base.

You took it out of my thoughts, but I was afraid it was too OT. 
No trout please!

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Jack,

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:32:51 AM you wrote:

JSL> Thanks MAU.

JSL> See Robert, whaddi tellya. Best tech support in the world.

I saw this just as I was flagging and parking the directions to
change the shortcut. I realized that many of my flagged and
parked messages were from MAU, so I'd like to add my thanks, too.

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F4 not copying selected text in reply

[Maggie Meister]

Hello Bats,

Recently, I have encountered a situation where hitting the reply
does not include any of the text from the incoming mail. 

Possibly related: selecting specific text, then hitting the F4
key does not copy the selected text into the reply message. This
behavior happens regardless of server of the incoming mails. I
have two recent mails where this occurs. Is this behavior from my
end or something they have done?

I've still got the same ol' setup, and I don't do auto updates of 
anything. 

Also, after my last email to the list, I noticed that my question 
was posted twice. Am I missing something in preferences? Do you 
all see two posts, or is it only on my system? 

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Re: F4 not copying selected text in reply

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Bats,

On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 10:44:45 AM you wrote:

>> Also, after my last email to the list, I noticed that my question 
>> was posted twice. Am I missing something in preferences? Do you 
>> all see two posts, or is it only on my system? 
  
:whistle: This one I fixed - I had an outgoing filter set. 

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Re: F4 not copying selected text in reply

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Thomas,

On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 10:44:45 AM you wrote:

>> Recently, I have encountered a situation where hitting the reply
>> does not include any of the text from the incoming mail. 

TF> Not confirmed, having selected two paragraphs from your mail and then
TF> hitting F4.

TF> I cannot comment, as I just ran maintenance on the TBUDL folder. But I
TF> don't actually remember having seen a mail of yours twice.

I just did the same thing with yours, and it worked as usual. It's 
just two email addresses where it seems to be happening. 



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Re: Save Ritlabs

[Maggie Meister]

Passionate Bats, 

Yes, they're missing Christmas, but people must be hungry and
cold too?

Here is a link to the situation in Moldova as recounted in The
Economist:

http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21660165-banking-scandal-set-bankrupt-europes-poorest-country-gutted

So our idea of crowdfunding was probably useless unless the funds
can be sent to a bank in Romania, or...?

Word from a friend came today regarding an analogous situation: 

J> We have a friend who just got back from a 2 year Peace Corps
J> stint in Moldova. A group of “business people” <...> pretty
J> much cleaned out all of their bank reserves, and foreign aid
J> has been suspended because most of it is stolen. The whole
J> finance sector there is under emergency decrees with most of
J> the laws suspended. Ritlabs probably did not bribe the people
J> who needed to be bribed.


On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:19:44 AM you wrote:

G> Maxim,

>> Hi Maxim,

>> Yes, we are passionate users.

>> We're on board with whatever help we can do, but our congressmen
>> here in NC are useless for this - they seem to be more interested
>> in building walls, not helping others. But would outside pressure
>> on Moldova (human rights comission) really do any good? You may
>> have to physically move out of Moldova. Can you reincorporate
>> somewhere else? Lichtenstein? EU? Isle of Man? Crowdfunding may 
>> help in the short term.

G> It is true, international pressure might not help much.  And if it did, in 
the long
G> term, you still need to find a place to live where things like that are not 
done.
G> Within the EU somewhere?

G> And, if you don't have TB source code stored somewhere on the internet, like
G> DropBox, you must get those hard drives back or it is all over.

G> But, if you do have the source code safely stored, I would get out of there 
now
G> and don't look back.  That would be me.

>> We were just talking the other day that TB! is one of only two
>> programs we have that seems to be uncorrupted. Be strong! 

>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 4:15:50 PM you wrote:

MM>>> Dear Passionate Supporters,

MM>>> You've been with us since 1998 (and even before)! We need
MM>>> you help to save our company from an abuse. This abuse can put an end to 
the company.

MM>>> Since September 2015 our company, Ritlabs, SRL is being
MM>>> abused by police and prosecutors. We have experienced similar
MM>>> attempts before, but now they have taken an acute form. On
MM>>> September 14, 2015 the Police performed search, authorized by
MM>>> a judge, in our office, and seized hard disk drives from all
MM>>> computers, and on December 4, upon authorization of the same
MM>>> judge, they ordered to permanently block all our bank
MM>>> accounts. The judge’s orders in both cases were issued in
MM>>> closed hearing, where we could not present our arguments.
MM>>> There is no such a law in Moldova to permit for a Moldovan
MM>>> court to allow an ex parte suspension of a bank account. But
MM>>> this law was violated in case of Ritlabs, SRL. We have filed
MM>>> an appeal on December 8 and today we have prevailed. The
MM>>> Appeals Chamber has quashed the court order that has blocked
MM>>> our bank accounts. However, we still didn’t get a written
MM>>> decision that we might have shown to the bank. So we still
MM>>> cannot make payment. And the Police and the Prosecutors can
MM>>> make new searches and seizures and block accounts again, for
MM>>> them it is incredibly easy. Our company, Ritlabs, SRL, is not
MM>>> a party of this criminal case. While our accounts are
MM>>> blocked, the employees are not able to receive wages that we
MM>>> transfer monthly to their bank accounts, and we are unable to
MM>>> make any other payment, for example a payment to the hosting provider of 
our servers.

MM>>> We think it is a deliberate attempt to destroy our company.
MM>>> If our accounts are blocked for more than 30 days, we will be
MM>>> forced to declare insolvency and liquidate and we will not be
MM>>> able to develop or support The Bat! any further.

MM>>> How can the users of The Bat! help save the company and the
MM>>> product, and make it to be developed better and faster?

MM>>> Please ask your local representative to send a diplomatic
MM>>> letter to a Moldovan embassy in your country to ask to
MM>>> recognize due process rights in any criminal proceeding
MM>>> related to Ritlabs, SRL, its employees and its assets, its
MM>>> bank accounts. Ask to recognize the legislation of Moldova
MM>>> and the international conventions of Human Rights.

MM>>> For example, if you are in the United States, please contact
MM>>> your local US Senator, who is a ranking member on the
MM>>> Commerce Committee or another committee and who has a good
MM>>> relationship with you, and who is able to send a letter to
MM>>> the Moldovan embassy in DC asking them to recognize due process rights.

MM>>> If a Moldovan embassy will receive such a letter from an
MM>>> official in 

Re: msg header as list column

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Alto,

On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 5:57:38 AM you wrote:

AS> ... just in case anyone is interested in how this turned out:

<...>

AS> "to_me": filter "if recipient contains "
AS> "to_other": filter "if recipient does-not contain "

Yes, very interested. Thank you very much for this. 

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Re: Archiving attachments

[Maggie Meister]

G'morning Miguel,

On Monday, February 06, 2017 at 4:29:50 AM you wrote:

M> If this line is not included
M> when copying, it seems that TB 'detects' that what is in the clipboard
M> is not a filter and doesn't allow pasting (Paste is grayed out).

  Yes! Reading the directions is the key!  You did say
  to copy the filter antes de clicking on the Read. Having the
  filter in the clipboard allows TB to 'see' it.
  
  Thanks so much for your patience, I may be out of the woods
  now.

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Re: Archiving attachments

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Miguel,

On Monday, February 06, 2017 at 10:58:04 AM you wrote:

>>   Thanks so much for your patience,

M> You owe me a couple of beers ;-)
   
Okay, I've looked everywhere and can't find the port to pour the 
beer in, it's an HP2140. You do like Fat Tire, don't you? 

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Re: Archiving attachments

[Maggie Meister]

Miguel,

On Sunday, February 05, 2017 at 1:25:27 PM you wrote:

MM> Hi Miguel,

MM> On Sunday, February 05, 2017 at 1:06:55 PM you wrote:

M>> Just  select  the group of filter (Incoming, Outgoing, Read) where you
M>> want your filter to be, right-click and select Paste.
MM>  
MM> I selected Read, did right click and the only choice available is
MM> New Filter. If I click on that to create a new filter, then right
MM> click on it, Paste is grayed out.

MM> I'm in v4.2.44 does this make a difference?  

Another idea - I don't know if this will work, but if I create 
another account with the same folders then Re-Direct all the 
mails in each folder to that other account, will that accomplish 
moving the attachments to the designated file? 
  

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Re: Archiving attachments

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Miguel,

On Saturday, February 04, 2017 at 2:30:24 PM you wrote:

>>  Is there a way to save attachments globally? If not, will
>>  I have to go through each and every mail to copy out the
>>  attachment?

M> OK,  I'm going to suggest a couple of things. None is perfect.

M> 1.-  You  can  keep  attachments  in  message  bodies or in a separate
M> directory. See Help/Account/Properties/Files and directories/Attachments

M> I  assume your current setting is "In message Bodies", and that if you
M> now  change  to  "In  a  separate directory" this change will apply to
M> future messages only, and not to those already in message base.

This is valuable. I have now changed the setting as I was indeed 
keeping them in message bodies.

M> 2.-  You can use a manual filter to extract attachments, I have tested
M> it and it works. Copy the following filter and paste it in the Sorting
M> of  your  Account. I created it as a 'Read Filter'.



In the sorting of the account, I did not see where to paste the
filter. Also, I did not understand the syntax of the name of the
filter. Where is the text enclosed by $ to be pasted? Should it
be copied from 'beginFilter' and end with 'endFilter'? I have
never used a filter such as this, even though I have seen various
similar filters in the list over the years. Normally, my needs
are so simple that the macros one can choose for message
filtering are enough for my needs.

Thanks for your patience. 
 
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Re: Archiving attachments

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Jason,

On Sunday, February 05, 2017 at 11:25:21 AM you wrote:

JG> I want it defined in the attachment location directive in settings. This
JG> way I set it once for all incoming mail without using filters.

Yes! And being able to change the type of attachment, i.e., jpg,
.doc, .xar, etc. or just include all the likely types but to
avoid the .html or .msg that isn't relevant would be helpful.

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Re: Archiving attachments

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Miguel,

On Sunday, February 05, 2017 at 1:06:55 PM you wrote:

M> Just  select  the group of filter (Incoming, Outgoing, Read) where you
M> want your filter to be, right-click and select Paste.
 
I selected Read, did right click and the only choice available is
New Filter. If I click on that to create a new filter, then right
click on it, Paste is grayed out.

I'm in v4.2.44 does this make a difference?  

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Archiving attachments

[Maggie Meister]

Greetings Bats,

 I haven't archived in what seems like forever. Is there a 
 way to save attachments globally? If not, will I  have to go 
 through each and every mail to copy out the attachment? Just 
 the thought causes headache. 
 
 Thanks for your ideas. 
  
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Re: Configuring Exchange mail in TB! - How?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi MFPA,

On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 6:08:27 PM you wrote:

M> On Wednesday 22 February 2017 at 12:47:31 AM, in
M> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-

>> I also don't have a long button that
>> says "Install The
>> Bat! as the simple MAPI request handler"

M> Nor do I. Wasn't "simple MAPI" dropped a couple of Windows releases
M> ago?

Perhaps. My version is the venerable 4.2.44.2. I have a long 
button.   The moderators bounced my reply that had the 
screenshot. (89K?) 

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Re: Configuring Exchange mail in TB! - How?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Adrian,

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 7:13:47 AM you wrote:

AG> Friday, February 24, 2017, 3:02:21 AM, you wrote:

>> The moderators bounced my reply that had the 
>> screenshot.
>>
AG> That  is  normal on almost every mailing list in existence that attachments 
are not
AG> accepted.  Some  just  strip  the attachment but the rest
AG> posts, others reject the entire
AG> post.

I thought if small enough, it would get by. Anyway, it's moot 
because of my antique version.

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Re: Configuring Exchange mail in TB! - How?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Thomas,

On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 11:14:43 PM you wrote:

TF> I got the error on MAPI: "There is no email programm associated with
TF> this protocol". How do I associate MAPI with TB!?

In my version it's under Options|Preferences|Applications.
There's a long button that says Install The Bat! as the simple
MAPI request handler. This never worked for the one program I had
that required it, but I could kludge around it.

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Re: Recovering address book file

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Rick,

On Friday, January 06, 2017 at 9:41:32 PM you wrote:

>> An addressbook file was accidentally deleted. It is not in the
>> trash folder. Is there a way to recover it? Many thanks for help.

R> Get recuva
R> http://www.piriform.com/recuva
R> Install it on a stick it you can although it "probably" won't
R> overwrite the latest lost files if you install it to your hard drike

Thank you Rick, we'll try it. I wonder why it didn't go to a 
Trash folder? 





  

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Recovering address book file

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Hello Bats!

An addressbook file was accidentally deleted. It is not in the
trash folder. Is there a way to recover it? Many thanks for help.

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Re: Recovering address book file

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Rick,

On Saturday, January 07, 2017 at 12:42:58 PM you wrote:

MM> On Friday, January 06, 2017 at 11:15:18 PM you wrote:

R Get recuva
R http://www.piriform.com/recuva
R Install it on a stick it you can although it "probably" won't
R overwrite the latest lost files if you install it to your hard drike

MM> _Recuve_ did not give a choice to load on a dongle and it set
MM> Chrome as the browser the minute it was loaded. She used the
MM> piriform's site. Not very well-behaved. The search is still going
MM> on, but we have been able to piece together a mostly complete
MM> list from the reservations calendar, so we're not completely
MM> lost.

Further on Recuva's progress. It did find the .abd. But, when she
tried to open it from the addressbook, it didn't show the
filename, and it had 0 entries.

Many thanks for your help. Somehow the file must have gotten
shredded in the accidental delete.

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Re: Recovering address book file

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Rick,

Yah, we did recover most of it and picked up a few since the last 
backup, so all isn't lost except for time. And now we've got two 
tools which can help in other ways with your recommendations. 
Thanks again, Rick. 

On Saturday, January 07, 2017 at 2:26:45 PM you wrote:

>> Further on Recuva's progress. It did find the .abd. But, when she
>> tried to open it from the addressbook, it didn't show the
>> filename, and it had 0 entries.

>> Many thanks for your help. Somehow the file must have gotten
>> shredded in the accidental delete.

R> OUCH Sorry to hear that. Been there so many times that I now have redundant 
backups


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Re: Recovering address book file

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Rick,

On Friday, January 06, 2017 at 11:15:18 PM you wrote:

 An addressbook file was accidentally deleted. It is not in the
 trash folder. Is there a way to recover it? Many thanks for help.

R>>> Get recuva
R>>> http://www.piriform.com/recuva
R>>> Install it on a stick it you can although it "probably" won't
R>>> overwrite the latest lost files if you install it to your hard drike

<...>

R> Did you have an abnormal reboot?  You might try searching that
R> mail folder for that file just in case it got movied

Lee was clearing out the cabin customer addresses in preparation
for our January mailing and accidentally erased the entire file
instead of the a single entry. Apparently, there was a confirm
screen, but it was to delete the _entry_, not the _file_. I can't
understand why there isn't a provision to automatically move it
to the Trash folder. 

R> I use another goodie called "Everything" from voidtools.com
R> It searches all your hard drives instantly. The have a
R> portable installation but I use the full install. 

With the program, Everything, it was well-behaved, but it did not
show the missing file. Well, it's hard to search for a negative. 
It may prove useful in the future. Thanks for pointing me to it.

_Recuve_ did not give a choice to load on a dongle and it set
Chrome as the browser the minute it was loaded. She used the
piriform's site. Not very well-behaved. The search is still going
on, but we have been able to piece together a mostly complete
list from the reservations calendar, so we're not completely
lost.

I'd still like to see a file like this go to Trash instead of 
oblivion. 

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Re: How to?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi MAU,

On Saturday, April 08, 2017 at 5:18:15 PM you wrote:

M> I am sorry to disappoint you but I know even less than Goos or
M> you about PGP and the like. It is something I was never
M> interested in.

Alas, neither was I until recently. Thanks for the reply.

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Re: How to?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Martin,

On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 9:23:40 AM you wrote:

M> One thing I would like to ask - which client are you using? The mail
M> header says:

M> RITLABS Mailer v4.2.44.2

M> Quite old IMHO.

Yes, that is correct. I have an XP laptop. I had not thought to
ask if any of current GnuPG or the PGP might with my antique
system.

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Re: How to?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Martin,

On Sunday, April 09, 2017 at 11:23:40 AM you wrote:

M> I am using GnuPG sometimes - so I am not a power user. Perhaps I can
M> try to answer your questions... ;-)

M> On Saturday, April 8, 2017 2:57:10 PM you wrote:MM>> 1. Using GnuPG seems to 
take up lots of space. 

M> The GPG key doesn't go into the signature - its a own element in the
M> text or inline

MM>> 2. How will correspondents using smart phones manage this 
>> considering the screen size?

M> I don't understand your question. The key is mostly not displayed with
M> the client so there is no "screen size" problem.

Yes, this answers what I was _trying_ to ask. 

MM>> 4. When replying without trimming in an email thread, this could
>> potentially take to not only scroll through, but to even find the
>> actual email amidst all the other security characters?

M> Email clients which are supporting GnuPG don't include key in the
M> reply.

Thank you!

>> 5. Are these questions also relevant to PGP or only GnuPG?

M> I am using GnuPG - don't know PGP at all.

Okay, Thanks Martin, now I know a little more. 
  

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Re: How to?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Goos and everyone,

On Saturday, April 08, 2017 at 4:28:29 AM you wrote:

G> Ah... Now it is there! :-)



Thank you for bringing this question to the group. I have been
following this thread avidly since I have never understood the
PGP and related encryption methods and I have some questions and
an observation.

1. I largely use text and not html to communicate. Using GnuPG
seems to take up lots of space. Do I remember correctly that
proper email etiquette advocated no more than 6 lines in a sig,
or, is that just a piece of the past that just stuck in my
memory?
  
2. How will correspondents using smart phones manage this 
considering the screen size? 

3. For correspondents who don't use a dedicated email program
such as TheBat! handle this if they are using web mail? 

4. When replying without trimming in an email thread, this could
potentially take to not only scroll through, but to even find the
actual email amidst all the other security characters?

5. Are these questions also relevant to PGP or only GnuPG?

Isn't choosing VPN more effective w/o having to use the keys and
the added issue of having to convince other people to adopt this
system in order to communicate with me? These are the ones who 
say, why should I do this, I've got nothing to hide?

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Re: How to?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Goos,

On Saturday, April 08, 2017 at 11:05:30 AM you wrote:

G> Sorry, I'm not a big help.

Yes, I recognize that you are learning about it too. So, maybe we
need SuperMAU, PeterTheBold or BatMax!   

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Perhaps, unless the billboards fall, I'll never see a tree at
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Re: Crossover or somesuch??

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Hi Adrian,

On Tuesday, June 05, 2018 at 10:47:08 PM you wrote:

AG> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 2:00:11 AM, you wrote:

>> We have successfully run TB! on the Linux machine using Crossover
>> and Play on Linux. Might there be a way to run TheBat! on a Mac
>> through Crossover, Boot Camp, Parallels, Citrix XenApp, or other
>> such applications??

AG> Any  Windows virtual machine on a Mac should work. I have VMWare on my
AG> Mac,  but  I  use it very rarely,-Rather defeats the point of buying a
AG> Mac and then running Windows-

Yes, agreed. My problem is that necessary other software we use has 
stopped Windows development and gone over to the Mac universe, 
I'm not willing to give up TB!  - ergo.

AG> I need to look at Crossover for my Linux PC.

I was happy with the Play on Linux running TB! I upgraded from my
ancient XP and version 4.22 of TB! to version 7 (something)
because 8 was unstable there.

AG> A native Linux and Mac version of The Bat is of course the ideal

Yesss.  

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Re: Crossover or somesuch??

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Jason,   

That is a disappointment. So, using a 'mail computer' will have 
to be the choice.

On Tuesday, June 05, 2018 at 6:51:37 AM you wrote:

JG> Apple has Parallels which works poorly at best.

JG> On June 4, 2018 8:02:10 PM Maggie Meister  wrote:

>> Hello all,
>>
>> We're thinking about buying a Mac computer. We already have two
>> Linux (Ubuntu), two Win7, and an XP. It seems some of the
>> software we are using is migrating away from the Win environment.
>>
>> We have successfully run TB! on the Linux machine using Crossover
>> and Play on Linux. Might there be a way to run TheBat! on a Mac
>> through Crossover, Boot Camp, Parallels, Citrix XenApp, or other
>> such applications??
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand the flap from Apple about the security
>> issues of email and their system, but I am loath to abandon my
>> TheBat! after using it since version 1, and not interested at all
>> in the Apple mail system.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Maggie Meister
>>
>> The Bat! Home Edition, Version 7.0.0.56 (32-bit) (Yes, I've
>> finally upgraded from v4xxx, but then, this is a Win7 machine.)

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Crossover or somesuch??

[Maggie Meister]

Hello all, 

We're thinking about buying a Mac computer. We already have two
Linux (Ubuntu), two Win7, and an XP. It seems some of the
software we are using is migrating away from the Win environment.

We have successfully run TB! on the Linux machine using Crossover
and Play on Linux. Might there be a way to run TheBat! on a Mac
through Crossover, Boot Camp, Parallels, Citrix XenApp, or other
such applications??

I'm not sure I understand the flap from Apple about the security
issues of email and their system, but I am loath to abandon my
TheBat! after using it since version 1, and not interested at all
in the Apple mail system.

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Re: Moderators Announcement

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Marck,

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 9:03:01 AM you wrote:

MP> Actually - looking again, it's a mess!!

However it winds up, I hope my filters will still continue to
work. There are those whose mails I save as my own "Manual to
TB!" :-) Their posts are usually so helpful, so I've set
subfolders in my TBUDL folder for them by name.

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Re: Roguemoticons

[Maggie Meister]

Hi MFPA,

On Sunday, March 03, 2019 at 8:54:01 PM you wrote:

M> Do Roguemoticons no longer work, is it just me, or is there an option
M> I may have inadvertently turned off?

No, it's not just you. While they really don't work anymore, the
pictures would be so dated they would be more valuable to depict
a time and place of TB! users in history... :-D

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Converting to new system

[Maggie Meister]

Hello Bats,

Converting to a new system seems to be in the air. 

I'm switching from laptops (Win 7, Linux, & MacBook) to a
desktop computer. with Win 7 Pro on C: and Linux Ubuntu on D.
There will be a data drive E to store data from the other two
drives.

I have two questions: a) Can The Bat! be configured to run on
the C and D drives with both using the same version? b) Can
they both use the same data drive E:?

IIRC I am running version 6 because it was the most stable
version going through Crossover for this Mac. My partner is
running version 7.0.56 on a Linux, so it seems I will be upgrading
to version 7.0.56 and the current Ubuntu version. Will this version
of The Bat! run on Win 7 Pro?

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Re:

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Maxim,

I hope that The Bat! can offer the 'old style' toolbars as a
choice for those of us who want to upgrade.  Thanks!

On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 11:42:47 PM you wrote:

MMvT> (cross-posted to TBUDL, TBBETA)

MMvT> Hello,

MMvT> What do you think about the screenshots of the upcoming
MMvT> The Bat! v9 which is currently in development?

MMvT> You can see the screenshots at
MMvT> https://www.facebook.com/emailman/posts/10157552017414120

MMvT> If you like them, please put "Like". If you don't, please put "Angry". 
Thank you!


  

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Re: TLS Handshake and Certificate problems

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Thomas,

On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:53:17 PM you wrote:

<...>
TF> FWIW, I have two gmail accouints, one uses the servers gmail.com and
TF> the other googlemail.com. The problem is not intermittent any more,
TF> but it is now reliably producable on both computers:

>>11-Apr-20, 10:49:02: FETCH - Issuer: generated by avast! antivirus for 
>>SSL/TLS scanning, avast! Web/Mail Shield, avast! Web/Mail Shield Root.
TF> !11-Apr-20, 10:49:03: FETCH - TLS protocol error: Internal error 
BuildClientKeyExchange.

TF> I still believe it is caused by avast, though.

I do not usually run current versions of anything, so my TB! is 
7.0.0.56. I also have Avast. We find this problem intermittently. 
While I am not at all technically adept, we have lived with this 
because we believe it is coming from the Server (Hostica or 
Lunarpages). However, we had not considered that it could be 
coming from Avast... Even that is not up to date. My OS is 
Win7Pro., on Panasonic CF-31. 

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Re: TLS Handshake and Certificate problems

[Maggie Meister]

Hi MAU and Thomas

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:00:34 PM you wrote:

M> Hello Thomas,

M> I experienced the intermittent certificate problems a few day ago, and
M> I have never ever used Avast.

If it is not avast, then can it be assumed that the problem is
either the Host or TB!?
  

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Re: Future of TB* mailing lists

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Marck,

On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 4:52:20 AM you wrote:

MP> ... we have done this multiple times in the 20+ years that we have run
MP> these  lists.T

Thank you for everything, Marck - even the trouts. Looking back,
I can't believe it's more than 20 years, While it doesn't feel
like yesterday, I do remember version 1.3 I think it was,
somewhere in the 1990s.TB! is as fresh as it ever was, and the
list, while not as busy, has continued as orderly and polite.
When I look around and see everyone doing mail (poorly) on their
iThings, I do wonder if we aren't all dinosaurs because we write
in full sentences with a proper email program. Sorry for OT, but
not.


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Re: POP - "Getting number of messages"

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Eagle,

On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 8:59:36 AM you wrote:

bemc>>  it takes
bemc>> a long time at ""Getting number of messages" and sometimes it just
bemc>> goes on unless I have to DELETE TASK or ABORT ALL. Sometimes, it
bemc>> checks immediately as usually done.

EMPL> Microsoft automatically runs a program called "Anti Malware Service 
Executable"
EMPL> (MsMpEng.exe). It's an anti-malware program which has lately (on my 
computer)
EMPL> become VERY demanding of CPU time. I have begun to have constant problems 
with
EMPL> this program freezing my computer until it releases the CPU. It has high 
priority
EMPL> and cannot be made lower priority.


EMPL> I even cleared the INBOX/SENT BOX but the problem still persists.
EMPL> Even with 25,000 emails in the INBOX, it was working perfectly.
EMPL> Attached is a screen shot of the CONNECTION CENTRE window. Here you
EMPL> will see that the connection is stuck at GETTING NUMBER OF MESSAGES.

This happens to me periodically, and it seems to be related only
to accounts of a certain host. Not the same host always, but when
it happens, the accounts that are hanging are all of the same
one. The latest problem is occurring with the two I have on small
orange. Tomorrow, it may not hang up, but today it did.

I am not on Win10 so the MsMpEng.exe is not the problem here.

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Re: The Bat! v9.2.1

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Stefan,

Reinstating the toolbar is reason for me to upgrade.. Thank you!

My partner is leery however, as version 7.0.0.56 runs on Linux
also. Would it be possible to revert from the new version if we
find out Linux is not working?

On Wednesday, July 01, 2020 at 12:29:02 PM you wrote:

STvT> Dear All,

STvT> Just wanted to let you know that version 9.2.1  is now officially 
available :-)

STvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-1.msi
STvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1.msi


STvT> What's new in The Bat! v9.2.1 since v9.1.18 released on April 22, 2020?

STvT> [!] Toolbars library is reverted to Toolbar 2000
STvT> components (GUI became much faster)
STvT> [!] HTML rendering engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library v83.3)
STvT> [+] Offline Mode (menu item "Options\Work Offline") and
STvT> detection of the absence of the Internet connection to
STvT> avoid useless mailbox checking attempts
STvT> [+] Automatically generated colors are used for different
STvT> email addresses in the Summary View
STvT> [*] Message List and Folder Tree Tabs can be handled using
STvT> the mouse wheel (scrolling, pressing and tilting)
STvT> [*] Changes in message's memo are automatically saved
STvT> [*] By default the newly created IMAP folders are added to the Mail 
Ticker's watch list
STvT> [*] Messages with the empty "To:" fields are saved as
STvT> draft instead of trying to send them
STvT> [*] Changes in the appearance of the items in the message
STvT> list and account/folder tree view
STvT> [*] Added the option for the "old style" tree views and
STvT> row density under "Options\Preferences\Other options"
STvT> [*] Loading of the external media for HTML messages (to be
STvT> extended) can be configured under the menu
STvT> "Options\Preferences\Viewer/Editor\HTML Viewer"
STvT> [*] (#0002014) Better automatic recognition of URLs with matching brackets
STvT> [*] (#0002017) The "Select/Deselect" buttons for folders
STvT> have been reorganized in the Message Finder (F7) window
STvT> [*] Changes in the program's default layout for the first time run
STvT> [-] Applying the left alignment by Alt+L in the MicroEd
STvT> plain text editor called out the system's warning sound
STvT> [-] The Escape key did not close the Address Book window
STvT> [-] Quick Search was not activated by typing in the message list
STvT> [-] HTML viewer popup menu was improperly positioned on high DPI
STvT> [-] SmartSpace Reading is now working in any kind of text viewer
STvT> [-] (#0001761) The issue which caused cascading error
STvT> messages when replying to a message still being downloaded has been 
resolved
STvT> [-] (#0001832) Inactive Internal PGP implementation was
STvT> displayed in the list of available PGP engines
STvT> [-] (#0001837) An Access Violation error message appeared
STvT> in the Address History after deselecting folders for scanning
STvT> [-] (#0001844) On the profile layout settings page the
STvT> text was not displayed until a profile was manually selected
STvT> [-] (#0001934) Buttons on the preview pane's header were too wide
STvT> [-] (#0001961) Memo Autoview visibility is now maintained between sessions
STvT> [-] (#0001967) Memo editor does not close when repeatedly pressing 
Shift+Ctrl+I
STvT> [-] (#0002006) Message list tabs were not restored from Backup
STvT> [-] (#0002021) Icons of the program's additional windows were not 
displayed
STvT> [-] (#0002025) Unnecessarily deep nesting for the
STvT> "Format\...\" color settings in the message editor has been eliminated
STvT> [-] OAuth 2.0 authentication was not working for Mail.Ru
STvT> [-] No default address book was created on the first start of the program
STvT> [-] Superfluous empty spaces in the main window of the
STvT> program appeared after restoring the data from the Home directory
STvT> [-] Checkboxes on accounts' selection on restoring from Home folder were 
missing
STvT> [-] The window for "Create New Account" appeared in the
STvT> background and wasn't noticeable to the user





  

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Re: Are Roguemoticons still active?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Marck,

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 4:54:11 AM you wrote:

<...>

TF>> I understanding we are waiting for a volunteer to host and maintain
TF>> the Roguemoticon database. Until then, it won't work.

MP> Not quite. I offered years ago. Leif wasn't willing to pass the code /
MP> db  over to host at Silverstones and that's how it was left. Even with
MP> a  volunteer with a Apache/MySQL/PHP server we would still need to get
MP> the  site  code  and  db  dump  from  Leif, who may or may not be more
MP> willing now.

Do you think he wants to get paid for the code?

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Re: How to see the whole email on the screen

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Thomas,

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 7:59:11 PM you wrote:

TF> Hello Maggie,

TF> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:53:30 -0500 GMT (29-Jan-21, 1:53 +0700 GMT),
TF> Maggie Meister wrote:

JSL>>> I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I 
thought
JSL>>> it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark 
(including the
JSL>>> cut mark) when replying.

>> This was also my understanding. I wonder if the insertion of
>> another cut mark by the particular virus checker after the sig
>> prevents operation of the cut mark inserted by you in your
>> template from working as designed?

TF> I don't know whether it's the anti-virus in their case, but
TF> it may also be the ISP. In my case, GMX will cut all trailing
TF> blanks. I don't know why, maybe they wwant to save bandwidth...

TF> --


TF> Cheers,
TF> Thomas.

When I look at Stuart's message from a couple of days ago, his
sig looks perfect at my end. There is no mention of an ad for
whatever virus program which normally has a cut line. The same
for Acheton's message. Jack's shows the derangement and there is
a double cut line in his sig. However, like yours, Mike's doesn't
seem to have a double cut line, but his sig is showing as broken
here as well. A mystery!

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Re: How to see the whole email on the screen

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Jack,

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 11:48:52 AM you wrote:

JSL> I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I 
thought
JSL> it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark (including 
the
JSL> cut mark) when replying. 

This was also my understanding. I wonder if the insertion of
another cut mark by the particular virus checker after the sig
prevents operation of the cut mark inserted by you in your
template from working as designed?

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Re: Superscript character in a word?

[Maggie Meister]

Title: Re: Superscript character in a word?


Hi Christopher,

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:56:28 AM you wrote:

CW> On 2021-03-10 at  1:49 PM, Maggie Meister <mag...@leelehman.com> wrote:

>> In Portuguese (and perhaps other languages) it is sometimes necessary to
>> type a superscript character, 

CW> If all you need are the ordinal indicators º and ª, these exist as dedicated
CW> Unicode characters: no HTML needed. I copied/pasted these from the Wikipedia
CW> article on the orginal indicator [1].

Thanks Christopher, but it's usually the 'a' that needs to be superscripted from what I understand. For instance, you can see (even in the old records) Ma where the 'a' is superscripted. This is an abbreviation of the name, Maria. In the case of Profa, the abbreviation would be to indicate that the PhD graduate is a female. This is found in salutations of more formal correspondence, again as I understand it. Learning is happening. 

Pointing out the degree symbol is also handy for different reasons. Thanks again. 

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Re: Superscript character in a word?

[Maggie Meister]

Title: Re: Superscript character in a word?


Hi Stuart,

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:04:41 AM you wrote:





Hello Maggie,
Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 8:04:11 PM, you wrote:





 Yes, that is exactly what I am looking for. Where in the HTML editor did you find it?



Sorry I sent a screenshot last night but it must have been too large. 



Yes, it didn't come through here. 





Under the menu bar that has bold, italics etc there is another menu that has
X2 for superscript and X2 for  subscript.



Are you talking about in the customise toolbar menu? I did not see this choice. 

Thanks for your help, Stuart, trying to function in html is earthquaking for me - I long to do this in plain text. 
  

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Re: Superscript character in a word?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi David,

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 10:54:02 AM you wrote:

F> Hello Maggie,

F> Thursday, March 11, 2021, 3:08:39 PM, you wrote:

F> Hi Christopher,

F> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:56:28 AM you wrote:

CW>> On 2021-03-10 at  1:49 PM, Maggie Meister  wrote:

>>> In Portuguese (and perhaps other languages) it is sometimes necessary to
>>> type a superscript character, 

F> Not sure if this has been mentioned. On my version of TB
F> (8.7) when using the mail message window, under View you can
F> enable HTML toolbars then any character can be sub/super scripted.

Thanks, but it doesn't seem to be there in v. 7.00.56, or I am
looking in the wrong place. I brought up a blank email, clicked
on View|Toolbars|Customize ~now I'm on shaky ground~ in the
layout pane I click on Format?? I don't see superscript anywhere
in this.

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Re: Superscript character in a word?

[Maggie Meister]

Title: Re: Superscript character in a word?


Hi Stuart,

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 11:27:13 AM you wrote:





Hello Maggie,
Thursday, March 11, 2021, 9:58:14 AM, you wrote:





Are you talking about in the customise toolbar menu? I did not see this choice.



Go to View/Toolbars/Advanced Formatting in the menu when editing an email in HTML.




  I'm afraid that the problem must lie with my version. I don't have an Advanced Formatting choice, only Lock Toolbars and Customize.


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Re: Superscript character in a word?

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Bats,

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:49:35 PM you wrote:



 In Portuguese (and perhaps other languages) it is sometimes
necessary to type a superscript character, such as Profa. or Ma 
 

Whoops! I see it didn't send correctly, even though it was superscripted on my 
screen. Sorry! 
  

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Superscript character in a word?

[Maggie Meister]

Hello Bats,

  In Portuguese (and perhaps other languages) it is sometimes
necessary to type a superscript character, such as Profa. or Ma 
where the 'a' is superscripted. To illustrate, I've pasted from a wp document 
into a blank email with my default editor changed from PlainText (MicroEd) to 
HTML Alternative with Plain Text Part in order to be able to paste the above 
examples successfully, but it's kludgy. Is there an easier way to accomplish 
this? 

Thanks in advance.   (with apologies to MPFA if this is a cookie I've ripped 
from you.)  :-)


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Re: Superscript character in a word?

[Maggie Meister]

Title: Re: Superscript character in a word?


Hi Stuart,

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:26:19 PM you wrote:






Are you looking for this? Aaa  There is a superscript button in the HTML editor.












  Yes, that is exactly what I am looking for. Where in the HTML editor did you find it? 

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Re: Sudden rearrangement of folders

[Maggie Meister]

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:19:08 AM you wrote:

SC> Sunday, February 14, 2021, 8:55:19 PM, you wrote:

>> all of a sudden the folders in my message list have arranged
>> themselves into alphabetical order. <...> I have no idea how
>> to undo it except to manually move the folders with
>> ctrl+shift+arrow key back to where they 'belong'.

SC> I have noticed it happening for a while now. No idea how to stop it.

Thanks Stuart. Though I really hate unsolved mysteries, I
appreciate the answer!

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Re: Sudden rearrangement of folders

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Thomas,

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:03:39 PM you wrote:

TF> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 19:47:34 -0500 GMT (16-Feb-21, 7:47 +0700 GMT),
TF> Maggie Meister wrote:

>>>> all of a sudden the folders in my message list have arranged
>>>> themselves into alphabetical order. <...>

TF> I believe you have clicked on the "Name" header on top of
TF> the folder list. I don't dare do it now to try, as I don't
TF> think there is an "undo" function...

Yes, that's it! Thanks Thomas. I now see that there's a
window that governs the folder arrangement, and it at least shows
me that I must have hit 'name' while rushing around and
unconsciously clicking okay to get rid of the window Never
knew it existed! I'd love to have an explanation of how all the
choices might affect my setup before randomly trying each one
though. I notice there's no help button in that window.

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Re: Sudden rearrangement of folders

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Jack,

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 12:45:32 PM you wrote:

JSL> Hello Thomas,

JSL> On Monday, February 15, 2021 you wrote:

TF>> Hello Maggie,

TF>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 19:47:34 -0500 GMT (16-Feb-21, 7:47 +0700 GMT),
TF>> Maggie Meister wrote:

>>>>> all of a sudden the folders in my message list have arranged
>>>>> themselves into alphabetical order. <...> I have no idea how
>>>>> to undo it except to manually move the folders with
>>>>> ctrl+shift+arrow key back to where they 'belong'.

TF>> I believe you have clicked on the "Name" header on top of the folder list.
TF>> I don't dare do it now to try, as I don't think there is an "undo" 
function...


JSL> Does CTRL-Z (undo) do anything?

I had already re-arranged the folders and didn't have an
opportunity to try this, but will keep it in mind. An undo would
be a great addition, since there's no choice in the window to
restore the previous set-up. I filed the folders into family
members first, then ranked people who need to be answered right
away, then others who are not so frequent. It would be difficult
for TB! to offer a choice to sort this way! :-)Thanks Jack.
  

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Re: Sudden rearrangement of folders

[Maggie Meister]

Hi MAU,

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:52:51 PM you wrote:

MM>> I'd love to have an explanation of how all the choices might affect
MM>> my setup before randomly trying each one though. I notice there's no
MM>> help button in that window.

MAU> The only choice that may need an explanation is the first one: "Items
MAU> at   the  current  level".  It  refers  to  the  level  (top  folders,
MAU> subfolders),  of  the  one you have currently selected when you click
MAU> "Name".

MAU> I think the rest of Target choices are quite self-explanatory.

Actually, I didn't have problems with the first one, since I saw
the results; it was all the others! I suspect my system setup is
so simple, that the other choices would be moot in my case
anyway.

Thank you!

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Sudden rearrangement of folders

[Maggie Meister]

Hello Bats,

The strangest thing just happened - all of a sudden the folders
in my message list have arranged themselves into alphabetical
order. Forever, as far back as version 1, I have used a folder
tree arranged by frequency of activity - those people I
correspond with most. What could have happened? I never
consciously set this, but arranged it manually. I have no idea
how to undo it except to manually move the folders with
ctrl+shift+arrow key back to where they 'belong'. Would any of
you kind bats know how to prevent this from happening again?

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Re: mark as read

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Gunivortus,

On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 8:55:27 AM you wrote:

<...>

>> Are you familiar with "Sorting Office/Filters"? You can create a filter for 
>> the
>> Junk folder so that every incoming Junk message is marked as "read" as they 
>> come
>> in.

GG> I'm somewhat familiar with it as incoming mail is sorted to different 
subfolders.
GG> Yet, I did not see the option 'mark as read' in the available options there.

It's the first choice under Flags, in the dropdown.



  

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-Katharine Hepburn


Running Windows 7, and emailing with The Bat! 7.0.0.56



Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html