Re: v4.0.38 question - HTML display problem
'Ello Jack, On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:03:54 -0600 (your time) you said: > If you can clear up my confusion regarding the URLs, I'd be happy to > report this as a bug if you can also instruct me on how to do that. Go here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php And report it. It's a bit of a PITA first time as you have to sign up for an account first. Once you have signed up, just click on the 'Report Issue' link and fill in the form. You can then copy and paste the URL to the page into a TBUDL post. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #31875. Who Gen Sod Weir? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Extended Macro Plugin 1.2.0.0 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091110-0 (10.11.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v4.0.38 question - HTML display problem
'Ello Thomas, On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:11:14 +0700 (your time) you said: > I confirm that a couple of millimeters are cut off the comic strip at the > right side, rendering it unviewable in TB!. I can confirm that also. Exactly 18 pixels is cut off and not displayed. So, just under 5mm, or 4.7625mm. ;-) -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #19125. How Gird Own See? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Extended Macro Plugin 1.2.0.0 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091108-0 (08.11.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4.0.38 question
'Ello Jack, On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:51:16 -0600 (your time) you said: > Any ideas as to how I can fix this? Yes, same thing happened to me. This is how I fixed it: Create a text file named "tbfix.txt" and copy and paste the text below into it: ---copy below here Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Editor] "Width"=- "Left"=- "Top"=- "Maximized"=- --copy above here Save the file (no wordwrap) and rename the file to tbfix.reg. Make sure The Bat! is closed. Double click tbfix.reg to merge it to the registry. Reopen TB! and it should be back inside the screen. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #22301. Woe Edh Win Gros? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Extended Macro Plugin 1.2.0.0 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091101-1 (01.11.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
'Ello Roelof, On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:20:13 +0200 (your time) you said: > [...]TB can't handle environment variables by itself, but the XMP plug-in > can help you with that. Now tried and tested and in use, and works great! Thanks very much for the information. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #23855. Hews On Gid Wore? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Extended Macro Plugin 1.2.0.0 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
'Ello Roelof, On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:20:13 +0200 (your time) you said: > [...] XMP has the %XMP_Envir that can read evironment variables. XMP can > be downloaded from http://www.gaijin.at/tbpxmp.php The help file is > German, but should be clear even if you don't 'do' German. [...] Excellent! Thanks, Roelof. That, in fact, will be very handy indeed. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #16158. Res Hoe Dong Iww? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
'Ello Marek, On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:18:23 +0200 (your time) you said: > %EMAIL% is a Windows variable, not TB's internal variable, for MAIL > directory TB uses "%MAILDIR", so use > %INCLUDE="%MAILDIR\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt" Excellent. That's a lot less bother...even better then! That will save me having to update the paths for every template when I move my mail folder about ;-) -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #33307. O'er Hod New Wigs? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
'Ello Peter, On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:31:08 +0200 (your time) you said: S>> It doesn't work so that is what I am asking if there is a way. > [...] You might try %% instead. This should prevent TB! from seeing the > following as a macro. If it recognizes the EV, I don't know. Tried that out and it doesn't work. Thanks for the idea though. If it is possible at all it would be extremely useful. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 9206. Wei Hnd Go Sower? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Environement variables and templates
'Ello TBUDL, How do I - or is it possible to - use environment variables in message templates? In Windows, EMAIL is set to TB!'s message base. Normally then you'd use %EMAIL% in scripts and what have you. Can I use this in TB!'s templates? E.g. instead of: %INCLUDE="X:\Messages\Email\messages\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt" this: %INCLUDE="%EMAIL%\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt" It doesn't work so that is what I am asking if there is a way. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #20435. Dew Show In Gore? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
'Ello Thomas, On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:33:29 +0700 (your time) you said: S>> Emm Eff Pee Ay...or in morse code: -- ..-. .--. .- ;-D > LOL! I am too rusty in morse code, but I'll be happy to call you by > your real name: Emm Eff Pee Ay. Well, actually, it isn't mine, it is just how I pronounce MFPA...mine is Simon (as in a deep SIGH + MON but not MOAN of course ;-) ). I am sure MFPA must be an initialism. [...] > And, 'ello, what's the story it with the 'apostrophy? Oh, that's just an English dialectsort of borrowed it! My wife was brought up outside of London, and they all tend to drop the H from many of their words when they speak. It's quite infectious actually, well it is when you are chewing gum or having a funny turn. So 'happy' would sound as 'appee. And 'having' would sound as 'avvin, etc. Being brought up at the foot of the UK I sound completely different to 'er indoors. But some of her quirkiness has rubbed off on me, and I more often than not drop the H from hello when I say it. So now I sound as common as much as well. There. Bet you wish you hadn't asked LOL -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #13329. Or Shew Gid Owen? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091004-0 (04.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
'Ello Thomas, On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:00:38 +0700 (your time) you said: > OK, from the roguemoticon I agree, but how would you pronounce the > name in 'Your country? Is it fairly common over 'there? Emm Eff Pee Ay...or in morse code: -- ..-. .--. .- ;-D -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 1911. Hod Wees Rowing? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091004-0 (04.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
'Ello Thomas, On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:09:36 +0700 (your time) you said: > I still have problems pronouncing his/her name His or her looks very much like a him from the image displayed in my TB! Although you never know ;-) -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #30767. Ego Hew Rid Snow? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091004-0 (04.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org
'Ello Marck, On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:25:57 +0100 (your time) you said: > Checking the mail in my TBUDL folder, the signature was good. Yes, your PGP sig validates here too! -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 9721. Grow Weens Do Hi? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091004-0 (04.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Make The Bat! default email application
'Ello Jos, On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:43:03 +0200 (your time) you said: > I tried OpenOffice 3.1.1 and this Windows application. No problems with > the attachments here. What, you were able to get OOo to load TB!, attach a file, and you could see the attachment? That's very curious. I mean, how it works for one and not for another. > The error you are describing in OO I only get when closing the mail > message in OO and not sending it.. Yes, that's correct. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #29140. I He Wnw Dor Sego? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091004-0 (04.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Make The Bat! default email application
'Ello Dierk, On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:32:43 +0200 (your time) you said: > The problem is RITLabs' API. A few years back they developed their own > MAPI DLL because there was some trouble with MS' MAPI when it came to TB. > The current implementation - SimpleMAPI handler, installable through TB's > preferences - handles only the most basic call[s]. Yes, I tried installing the SimpleMAPI handler and it is pretty pointless actually. And of course the default Windows MAPI32 is extended MAPI: "Extended MAPI 1.0 for Windows NT" "1.0.2536.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)" "5.1.2600.0" > Unfortunately TB doesn't work with Microsoft's MAPI DLL and other progs > give problems with RITLabs' MAPI DLL, i.e. ActiveSync will not work. So full system integration is just a no go then..never? -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #12733. Whin So Wed Gore? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091004-0 (04.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Make The Bat! default email application
'Ello MFPA, On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:51:38 +0100 (your time) you said: > Hi > On Saturday 3 October 2009 at 11:57:10 PM, in > , Simon wrote: >> ...I am unable to add attachments to the newly created email. > Not at all? Or can only add them manually after creating the message? I can only add them manually after creating the message. >> So, does everyone else's setups work okay then? > I can right-click a file on the desktop or explorer window and select > "send to" and then either "mail recipient" or "The Bat!". TB! opens if it > is not already open, and a selection box appears to pick which account to > send from. After picking an account, a new message opens with the file > attached but my templates are not used. For me the Send To / Mail Recipient doesn't work, no attachments, but sending to a TB! shortcut in the Send To folder does work, and the file is attached and templates work fine.. > ...The best option for me if TB! is already open is to drag and drop - > that way my templates are used.) I have been doing that, but it is cumbersome. I was hoping to take advantage of the 'Send this file', 'Email this document' and 'Send to' features within most of the Windows applications I use on a daily basis as it would ave all that wretched window juggling. > Similar behaviour if I follow the options to send a file from within > MS Paint. Don't have that option in MS Paint on XPnot that I ever use MS Paint. > Trying to send a link from Firefox looks as if it will work until I > put in an addressee and move to the message body - then the link > disappears and the message body is populated by the relevant template. The opposite happens for me. I send a link within FF and choose a recipient that I have a template for and the template isn't used! The link remains as is. > I cannot send a file by email from within MS Word as the menu option > is greyed out. (The option to send by Fax is available, even though I > do not have a Fax client configured!) That figures. ;-) Of course TB! is my FAX client as I use email to fax and fax to email, but that means nothing to programs. It's a shame TB! isn't able to exploit such a basic and useful feature of Windows. TB! has been around for a long while now so I would have thought that annoyance would have been resolved by now. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #15442. I Hes Wnw Go Doer? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091004-0 (04.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Make The Bat! default email application
'Ello Bill, On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:50:31 -0700 (your time) you said: > If that does not fix it, I can run through my next step: updating the > mailto: URL info using the Windows Explorer Tools menu. It's not the mailto:URL that is the problem. It's the MAPIMAIL problem! All applications Open TB! with a new message just fine, but without any chosen attachement(s). I resetup Outlook Express and made it the default email client. Then emailed files from within applications and from other XP locations and no problem whatsover. OE shows attachments just fine. But as soon as I launch TB! and reassociate it and make it the default email client I am unable to add attachments to the newly created email. In Firefox I can send a link and the TB! message created includes the link, but that is a different process, and not attaching files. So, does everyone else's setups work okay then? -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 7682. Go In Resew Dhow? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1351 DB 090820-0 (20.08.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Make The Bat! default email application
'Ello Feli, On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:17:02 +0200 (your time) you said: F> Go to Internet Explorer, Extras/Internet Options/Programs and set the F> default mail program to TB. Close IE and you're done :-) Thanks for the reply, but already tried that approach. The Bat! loads okay, but can't get any program or Windows XP to attach files to newly created messages. E.g In OpenOffice I click the 'Send Document as email button' and TB! loads but no document is attached and the following dialog warning appears after closing the message Window: "OpenOffice.org was unable to find a Working email configuration" In Windows 'My Documents' folder, selecting a file and choosing to send it by email does the same as above but provides no dialog box informing of failure. It's a feature that I used to use a lot and now that I can't use it it's driving me bonkers. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #25957. Ore Ode Nigh Wsw? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1351 DB 090820-0 (20.08.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Make The Bat! default email application
'Ello TBUDL, In Windows XP's 'Set Program Access and Defaults' options I am unable to set The Bat! as the system default email program simply because it does not show up as an option in the list. The implications are that whenever I use the option to email files from within Windows or applications such us OOo 3.1 or Office 2007 no file is attached and OOo at least warns that it can't a default email configuration. The email client loads with a new message window but nothing is attached. I used to be able to do this. It has become very annoying and slows me down. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #21088. I Do Hew Gown Res? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1351 DB 090820-0 (20.08.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG - where do my keys need to be?
'Ello Carren, On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:27:21 +1200 (your time) you said: > ...I have pointed to that via "OpenPGP -> Preferences-> Files, but I'm > still getting the "secret key not found" message. > I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong... I'm not sure either, but maybe the GnuPG Home directory isn't correct in the registry. You can set that via WinPT. Here are some snaps showing how I have my setup. They may or may not be of help to you. Windows Privacy Tray (WinPT) setting preferences for GnuPG and WinPT: http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/GnuPG01.png http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/GnuPG02.png The Bat! OpenPGP preferences setup: http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/GnuPG03.png http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/GnuPG04.png http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/GnuPG05.png http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/GnuPG06.png http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/GnuPG07.png The paths are odd because I don't keep my keys in their 'default' location. Instead I keep them somewhere more accessible and somewhere where they are safer and easier to back up (on a TrueCrypt drive in fact). -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #35190. We Hi Ode Won Gsr? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090730-0 (30.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG - where do my keys need to be?
'Ello Carren, On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:30:50 +1200 (your time) you said: > I've installed GnuPG and GnuPG Shell as the front-end This isn't going to help you, but I tried to install it to take a look but I'm afraid the GnuPG Shell installer doesn't find my GnuPG folder, even though there's an entry for it in the registry. Tried all sorts but no joy, so sorry, can't help you. If you're interested, the best (only IMO of course) Windows front end for GnuPG and the one I use is Windows Privacy Tray v 1.41. http://wald.intevation.org/frs/?group_id=14 If you've already tried WinPT and didn't like it sorry for suggesting it again. I found it to be the best of a very limited number. Easy to use and you can manually set paths to gpg.exe and your keys as well. Having been a PGP user for years and years this was the only combo I could stick with. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #14221. Hi Ergo Own Dews? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090730-0 (30.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
'Ello Rick, On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:02:56 -0400 (your time) you said: > Would there be wisdom in hosting this feature somewhere else or deleting > it from the code? Totally agree, one or the other. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 1520. Wow Hinges Oder? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090729-1 (29.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
'Ello MFPA, On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:11:53 +0100 (your time) you said: > Looks like Leif's attended to it. I just logged on without any issues. Can't login from here. Same as usual, just sits there and does nothing. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #22688. Ods Grow Wee Inh? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090729-1 (29.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
'Ello Thomas, On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:44:29 +0700 (your time) you said: > Hello <...snip long stuff...> free? Just so there is no unnecessary hostility poking through here, whatever position you are defending I am not on the other side of it threatening it in any way, so you may want to relax on the adversarial stuff. And just in case it needs to be made clear, I am not an advocate of theft, crime, stealing software, or any other such activities. Neither would I suggest that people take want they want when they want it. And I haven't proposed that everything in the world should be free for everyone, although you seem to inferring that I have. For whatever reason you maybe just misunderstanding, or maybe I am. It matters not, because I don't advocate a 'free for all' anything...or slavery :-/ My home PC has a mixture of commercial and freeware and Open Source software on itif it isn't free or within my budget it doesn't get installed. For example, I purchased TB! right back near the 'beginning' and continue to pay for upgrades. I do the same for a number of other pieces of software as well. But if all the other software I currently use was commercial software then I would never be able to afford to use much of anythingand this would severely limit what I use the computer for. I purchased WinRAR when I had DOS and WFWG 3.11 and the licence I purchased way back then has licensed me for all versions since that time. A number of software authors use this model.Rarlab still exists, and release regular updates. And without me paying, paying again, and paying again, and again... Commercial software authors are just like everyone else, vying for a portion of the pie, a slice of the limited and finite resources that people have available to them. They are selling a product and hope to convince people that it is worth paying our for...often over and over again. The simple fact is that only a few will be able to make a decent living from this practice, not the many...and those that believe that they deserve to make a living just because they are creating something are misguided, and haven't worked out that it is other people value their product, not them. If you get that wrong, then you don't get paid....and you'll need to look for another way to make money. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #29051. Who Win Dog Seer? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090727-0 (27.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions [now OT]
'Ello MFPA, On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:21:57 +0100 (your time) you said: > The problem is the greedy capitalist [insert desired expletive] who > pays people just enough to stop them from leaving instead of paying the > value of their contribution. I have absolutely no argument there. I completely agree that 'a workman is worthy of his hire', to steal from an old religious book. People are criminally undervalued, vastly overworked, and grossly underpaid, that's how capitalism works. > This leads them to expect others to also work for next to nothing and > feeds into a downward spiral that leads to nobody valuing what anybody > else does. To some extent I would agree, but I don't believe that it inevitably leads to nobody valuing what anybody does, rather it makes those with less money in their pockets fight much harder to get the services and 'things' cheaper, so that they can afford them. It's a con sequence of an uneven distribution of wealth, where the least wealthy have grown in massive disporportion, have less financial power to bargain with so strive to drive down prices so that they are not excluded from partipation. I heard someone say that if there weren't poor people then the world would be a better place. The person saying it was a businessman running a factory with over 300 workers who had just gone on strike because of work conditions and low wage complaints. You're either on one side or the other in this world! -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #36541. I She Row New Dog? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090726-1 (26.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
'Ello Thomas, On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:41:05 +0700 (your time) you said: S>> "Let people..." is a curious turn of phrase. Interesting, capitalism S>> masquerading as an ideology. > It is the same philosophy with which people say that everything on the > internet should be free. I don't see how that can be the same. > Heck, they want all software to be free and will not pay any money, for > example, for an email client. I think that is a vast oversimplificationand not just necessarily so! A distinction was made very early on between commercial, shareware, freeware, donationware, cardware...blah-ware software. This was necessary because not every software author sat down at their computer to spend inordinate amounts of time tapping away at their keyboards simply because they saw the potential financial rewards ahead. Aside the above, you have everyone from Ahab who is 10, to Desidimona who is 80, with access to a computer, and they, and everyone else, want various softwares to run on their computers, otherwise computers would be useless. The term 'software' obviously covers a huge spectrum, such as Operating Systems, web browsers, email clients, bitmap editors, graph paper printers, automation software, media players, PDF viewers, privacy software, (continue on ad infinitum) etc. Just count the number of programs sitting on your computer and then calculate the cost if every single one of those was a piece of commercial software, with regular, almost yearly pay-for updates, and you realise just how ludicrous this model is. It's a nonsense. "They" don't want all software to be free because "they" are evil, "they" haven't just got deep enough pockets to pay for every bit of software and every update. Even within the so-called developed wealthier countries you have incredibly unequal distribution of wealth, with most of the wealth belonging to the top 7% to 12% of the population. A lot of people within these same countries live on or below subsistence levels, and then you look across the globe to other countries that are even worse off and you see that the 'you-must-pay-for-everything' model of software distrubition is just madness. It does't work, it cannot work. A few hundred pieces of software on one PC is really not an uncommon figure for many people, now calculate a total purchase price, and they a yearly fee to keep every one up to date. Far too many people don't even earn those sort of amounts each month (or even much longer) so my heart does not immediately bleed for software authors who are looking to get rich out of volume distribution and then getting angry at the bad people for not wanting to playinstead of accepting that the whole model is flawed and perhaps the whole idea needs rethinking. S>> I'll remember to tell the altruist that gives up their free time and S>> money that they should desist with their beneficent activities because S>> they should be paid for their troubles, because they are the rules, and S>> fairness demands it. > Exactly. You will not believe how many heated arguments we had, I think > the 90s were the time when users just demanded to get all software and > even online time for free. They thought they had a right to be provided > with free services and software. Again, an oversimplifcation. At those times 'Free' didn't actually mean 'free'. 'Free' hasn't meant gratis for a very long time. The tenner-a-month ISPs in the UK back then (the 90's) advertised their services as unlimited free access for only £10 per month :-/ People were jumping onboard because their telecoms companies were exploiting this new source of revenue from Interent access and phone bills had soared out of control. People were finding themselves with bills for hundreds of pounds a month just for connecting to the Internet to collect email and chat. When there is limited access to a money pot (which is all of the time IOW) 'people' will naturally and fairly be looking for cheaper, if not gratis, solutions for most things, and quite rightly. I support them in their efforts 100%. And it is nothing to do with valuing the efforts of others...not in the slightest. Just because you decide to create something doesn't automatically give you the right to have an income gain from it. Blimey, all the great art in the world, and all the musical masterpieces written, would never have been created if that was the way it really worked! -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #21639. I Sow Grew No Edh? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090726-1 (26.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
'Ello Thomas, On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:49:21 +0700 (your time) you said: P>> I think the emphasis though must be on free solutions. > Yes, I agree. Let people work for free, this is a centuries-old tradition. > I have no idea why I pay for services, anyway. "Let people..." is a curious turn of phrase. Interesting, capitalism masquerading as an ideology. I'll remember to tell the altruist that gives up their free time and money that they should desist with their beneficent activities because they should be paid for their troubles, because they are the rules, and fairness demands it. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #15175. We He Row Go Dins? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090726-1 (26.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message Viewer: wrapping
'Ello TBUDL, Can I prevent the message Viewer from wrapping text at the viewer boundary? I seem to remember the solution used to be (lots of years back) that turning off auto-wrapping under the Editor preferences solved this, but now that doesn't work. Is there a setting I am missing or is another 'feature' that I have to continue to put up with? -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #15964. Erg Win Owe Dohs? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090724-0 (24.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AV Plugins now working
'Ello Carren, On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:47:42 +1200 (your time) you said: > This is probably a stupid question but how can I tell the plugin is > actually working? I see no reference to it in my account logs. Not a stupid question at all, and I'm glad you asked because there may still be a problem :-/ I first checked the plugin by running a manual AV scan (under Folder/Check for Viruses). This was successful: * Checking finished. Found 0 infected messages out of 9114 checked ones. I then checked my account logs after receiving incoming mail and the correct entries were present. However, I didn't check the account logs after outgoing messages had been sent. TB!'s previous behaviour was to add incoming and outgoing AV check entries to the account log when the AV plugin was configured and the 'Check Incoming mail for viruses' and 'Check outgoing mail for viruses' options were selected under Anti-Virus default settings under preferences. However, since the plugin broke and the latest 'fix' the outgoing check log entries no longer appear in the account logs, only in the incoming check entries: Outgoing: 24/07/2009, 10:00:50: SEND - sending mail message(s) - 1 message(s) in queue 24/07/2009, 10:00:52: SEND - connected to SMTP server 24/07/2009, 10:00:52: SEND - sending message to cont...@obfuscated.com 24/07/2009, 10:00:59: SEND - message to cont...@obfuscated.com sent (516 bytes) 24/07/2009, 10:00:59: SEND - connection finished - 1 message(s) sent Incoming: 24/07/2009, 10:01:05: FETCH - receiving mail messages 24/07/2009, 10:01:05: FETCH - connected to POP3 server 24/07/2009, 10:01:05: FETCH - authenticated (plain) 24/07/2009, 10:01:05: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 1 new 24/07/2009, 10:01:06: FETCH - Received message from Privateofcourse , size: 1757 bytes, subject: "AV Log Test" 24/07/2009, 10:01:06: ANTIVIRUS - Examining the incoming POP3 mail message for viruses 24/07/2009, 10:01:06: ANTIVIRUS - No virus found in the examined object 24/07/2009, 10:01:06: FETCH - Received message from privateofcou...@myserver.com to cont...@obfuscated.com, encrypted: No, size: 1757, date: Friday, July 24, 2009 10:00:50 AM, subject: "AV Log Test" 24/07/2009, 10:01:06: FETCH - 1 messages deleted on server 24/07/2009, 10:01:06: FETCH - connection finished - 1 messages received I can only assume this is a bug. There is also a problem with avast!'s plugin configuration being remembered. If you select 'Show icon in system tray and scanning', and 'Logging' under the plugin's configuration, they become 'unselected' the next time you start TB! So, looks like I was wrong. Incoming mail is being checked, and manually checking, but outgoing messages *may* not be..either that or it's just the log entries that are missing. And the plugin's settings don't persist, so that needs a fix. Can anyone else confirm this? -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 2103. I Woo Shrewd Gen? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090724-0 (24.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AV Plugins now working
'Ello tracer, On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:20:06 +0700 (your time) you said: > Since WHAT latest version??? Well the version I am using is in my sig...so it must follow that that is the version I am referring to. BTW. No need to SHOUT -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #33914. Erg Ono Wed Wish? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090722-0 (22.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AV Plugins now working
'Ello TBUDL, JIC other TB! users (those that don't download the betas) still have their AV plugins disabled in TB! - due them stopping working a while back - you can enable them again as the issues have been resolved in this latest version of TB! https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7656 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7549 -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #34879. We Her Go Own Dis? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090722-0 (22.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to view an email
'Ello Dan, On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:12:14 -0700 (your time) you said: > I had the exact same behaviour as Roelef. In my case, I noticed when > viewing the message (sans header) if I went to View -> (uncheck) Use > Plain Text Viewer I had everything revert to blank. In other words, I > was able to view it with Plain Text Viewer enabled but could not with > it disabled. A, well done, thankyou, now I see it! I wonder though should be the 'normal' behaviour for TB!? Should there be a need for that option to be checked for the email to be viewed? I would have thought that TB! should have automatically displayed the email regardless. > Hope this helps Yes, it did :-) -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #36871. I Wen Hod Sow Erg? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.6 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to view an email
'Ello Roelof, On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:20:23 +0200 (your time) you said: > Both show the contents of the message just fine. > I don't know what's wrong with the message... Well that's very curious. You say that the message contents show okay? I wonder why not for me (or Peter) then. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #25704. He Iww So Go Nerd? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.6 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to view an email
'Ello Roelof, Also, a grab: http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/0001EML.png -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 2400. Weighs New Rood? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.6 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to view an email
'Ello Roelof, On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:40:22 +0200 (your time) you said: > Try this: Tools -> Export messages to -> .eml http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/0001.rar Okay, try this. :-) -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #13921. We Sigh One Word? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.6 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unable to view an email
'Ello TBUDL, I received a reply email from an energy company I was switching to yesterday but the email doesn't display in TB! No To:, From:, Message-Id:, or Subject: display in TB! either, although visible when revelaing the headers using CTRL+SHIFT+K. To get at the invisible base64 encoded contents (viewed source to and copied it) I modified the email, changed the content type and added boundaries to get a decoded part.txt. Here is the original email rarred up: http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/SWALEC.rar From the headers: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-16" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Formatted as it is, should this display in TB! as text? -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 4320. Inh Sew Go Dower? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.6 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Views
'Ello David, On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:09:03 +0100 (your time) you said: > I have tried to save save view mode to but this does not work. Sounds like you've set a Global View mode. I had exactly the same annoying issue and resolved it by 'switching off' Global View mode. Select: View|Global View Mode|No View Mode -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #37039. New Gid Soh Or We? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.6 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
'Ello Jack, On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:57:56 -0500 (your time) you said: > Fellow list members, > Anyone else having trouble logging onto the subject website? Yes, been trying for an age to get my visog uploaded. Gave up though. Emailed Leif a number of times, but never got a reply. > I was trying to get my picture uploaded to the Rogues Gallery a few > days ago and it looked like I was finally successful [...snip...] You got further than I ever did then. The page always stalled when I tried it... -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #19279. Woo Girn Wed Hes? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.6 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MACRO list in TB! help file
'Ello Thomas, On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:48:49 -0300 (your time) you said: > There is one in German available, perhaps it helps a bit. > http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=108 Yes, thanks, I'll look through that very comprehensive list :-) -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 7762. I Resow Gown Edh? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.6 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MACRO list in TB! help file
'Ello Dan, On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:05:31 -0700 (your time) you said: > Unless they repackaged the 4.2.6 with a newer helpfile and failed to > update the date of the package on the website I would say no. At least it > misses the %Postpone macro. Thought as much, but asked anyway. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #27617. She Wow Rein God? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.6 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters: Run External Process
Hello MFPA, On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:30:10 +0100 your time, you said: [...snip...] > You could test by maybe adding a check to see if the file exists and > display a message if it doesn't. Yes, I have the folder open when I collect my mail, and I see the wavs appear in the folder. > I take it the WAV file exists when you look in the folder afterwards? > Does the script work if you plant a WAV of the correct name in the > folder beforehand? Yup! Run manually works a treat. Finds any unconverted wavs and processes them. I called it from another script and it works as well. And I also ran in via Windows Run and no problem. I also compiled the script and programs it uses into a single exe and used that instead, thinking that TB! might have something against running scripts, but no go. > Have you tried putting the three actions into three separate filters? > (make sure first two are set to continue processing with other > filters) Yes, I have also tried that. And I have tried a Hotkey only filter for the conversion part, but the wavs aren't processed...well know why they aren't but don't know how to solve the problem. When I run my converter, it creates a couple of temp files and folders in the system temp folder. When run manually I can see these being created and removed as the program executes and ends. I also tried this with TB! executing the .exe and TB! is executing it because the temp files and folders are appearing and disappearing. However, the exe isn't running in the voicemail folder, and I know that for certain because the exe unpacks 4 files into the folder it is run in, runs the script then clears up afterwards. You can see these files appear when run manually, but they do not appear in my voicemail folder. So, TB! is executing the exe, but it is being run somewhere else, not in the same folder as it is executed from. And I have no idea why that is, or how to resolve it. I do know it isn't running in the TB! install folder or in my message base folder because I checked. Anyway, I'm stumped. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #565. Seal Quod I Mrs Wry ¶ TB! 4.0.34 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: corrupted emails
Hello Roelof,
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:44:39 +0200 your time, you said:
RO> TB handles better with 100 folders with 1000 messages each than with one
RO> folder with 10 messages.
Is this a documented limitation of TB!? Or is it purely a limitation
discovered at the expense of TB! users?
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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hello Roelof,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:08:12 +0200 your time, you said:
RO> The latter is why I love filtering on AB groups, though my groups are
RO> collected in group related folders.
Thanks again for your help on this. I eventually plumped for:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and checked 'automatically create if necessary and it is working a treat.
Folders are automatically created when someone from the address book list
group contacts me. Man alive, I've been doing the long way around up until
now. What a time saver!
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TB! Version 3.99.3
Hello TBUDL:
I have noticed that most people on this list seem to be using TB! version
3.99.2x or below, and not 3.99.3. Did I miss something? Is 3.99.3 not a
particularly stable release?
Okay, I've had this release of TB! bottom out me a few times, annoyingly
wiping out account folders, but after a lot of poncing about I did
eventually recover them lurking within the email base.
Oh, and there's also a particularly strange issue when a notepad
replacement I use called Metapad is open at the same time as the Sorting
Office. Selecting text in Metapad and copying it whilst the Sorting Office
is open will TB! crash every time. Of course to get around this I use my
main text editor, Notetab, instead, so no big deal for me.
But apart from that, everything else seems hunky dory so far. But
should I be at all concerned about anything else?
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Re: TB! Version 3.99.3
The Janitor,
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:42:06 +0100 your time, you said:
S>> Yup! Indeed, I 'mistakenly' did, to split an infinitive also.
TJ> No, you didn't :-)
Yes, caught! Well you know you are correct of course. Don't know what I was
thinking actually. Well I do, because I intended to properly split one. ;-)
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Re: TB! Version 3.99.3
Hello Mark,
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:58:11 +0200 your time, you said:
MP> I think you mistakenly consider .3 to be the same as .30 and thus a more
MP> recent version than .24...
Yup! Indeed, I 'mistakenly' did, to split an infinitive also.
MP> Perhaps you would have expected 3.99.3 to be named 3.99.03?
Yes, you're correct, I would have expected that.
MP> If it is of any consolation: you're not the only one to be 'deceived'!
MP> :-)
Well no, it is no consolation really, but I have been enlightened, for which
I grateful :-)
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Re: TB! Version 3.99.3
Hello Tim,
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:00:43 -0700 your time, you said:
TH> I was running the same version as you prior to 3.99.24. It was
TH> available from TB's website at one time but there must have been
TH> issues with this release and is no longer available.
Thanks for the pointer. :-)
I was relying on the 'Check For Update' menu option to work under TB! quite
honestly. So when the 'no updates available box' appeared I assumed that was
the case. Upon checking the website I find as you have said, that there is,
in fact, an update.
I shall download now. Thanks.
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Re: TB! Address Book and OpenOffice.org
Hello Marek,
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:54:10 +0200 your time, you said:
>> Can anyone tell me the format of the TB! Address Book? Does anyone know
>> whether it possible to access it directly via OpenOffice.org Writer?
MM> no, it is proprietary format of Ritlabs.
Hmm, thanks.
Well I suppose I'll just have have to export the AB to a comma delimited
file then and use that instead. More faffing about!
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TB! Address Book and OpenOffice.org
Hello TBUDL:
Can anyone tell me the format of the TB! Address Book? Does anyone know
whether it possible to access it directly via OpenOffice.org Writer?
I've been creating FAX templates in OpenOffice.org Writer and need to
choose the address data source, which is usually MS's address book, or
Outlook or some such thing.
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Re[2]: Voyager
Hi Thomas, In your message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent on Wednesday, June 21, 2006, 4:13:33 PM, you wrote: > Does it say that? In fact, you can only search in the > installation of Voyager you are using for the search. Yeah it does... https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/voyager/benefits.php It says about reaching your e-mail archive At first I thought that RIT must have implemented a sync within Pro version which uses a conduit to the USB device to make the data equal before you unplug and walk away from your desk. As my message base is over 1GB I think I'll need a larger USB device first -- Regards, Simon E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: The Bat! 3.81.04 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 2 CPU:Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz, 596 RAM:1014 MB __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Voyager
Hi Thomas, In your message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent on Wednesday, June 21, 2006, 2:15:23 PM, you wrote: > The Bat Pro is a software you use on your home or work > computer. Voyager is a software that you use when you are > away on trips. Sure and thanks for your help. I'm just a bit mystified that it says you can search your entire archive, surely it's not complete if you don't take it with you. and synchronise So I assume it's a restore from Backup and thereafter leave items on server and perhaps remove after 2 days which will keep both copies? -- Regards, Simon E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: The Bat! 3.81.04 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 2 CPU:Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz, 596 RAM:1014 MB __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager
Hello TBUDL, This is going to sound like a really stupid question, but, how do you use both The Bat Pro and Voyager together? I don't see how you can easily use The Bat Pro on a central workstation and sync with Voyager on your USB? Is it a backup and restore that needs to be done? The website info on Voyager is rather well missing!? -- Regards, Simon E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: The Bat! 3.81.04 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 2 CPU:Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz, 1689 RAM:1014 MB __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[4]: Anti Virus S/W
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:44:03 +0100, "Jeff Gaines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>said: >> No, five this morning :-( >> >> I have installed F-Prot temporarily, I can't get past this 'AMON' >> lockup, I have reported it to the NOD web site. It's a shame you are encountering issues with NOD32; I have installed on dozens of systems across several OS platforms without issue. It's my Antivirus of choice and of recommendation to anyone/everyone! Maybe you could try the new 'Beta' version which offers enhancements to HTTP scanning especially in the area of browser deliver malware. You mentioned you have had other AV software packages installed, it may be worth checking there are no elements left behind which have not cleanly uninstalled therein preventing NOD32 from starting. Good luck! -- Regards, Simon Using: "The Bat" Version 3.0.2.8 OS: M$ Windows XP Professional/5.1 Service Pack 2 (build 2600) Powered By: Pentium 4 3.00 GHz (Prescott [HT]) AV Detection Performed By: http://www.nod32.com (V 2.50.2 beta) SPAM Filtered By: Mailwasher Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! on a dual display monitor
Hello Steve, Friday, February 25, 2005, 5:46:03 PM, you wrote: > I'm using two 19" flat panel displays, running 1280x1024, analog > inputs. The primary is on the left. I'm driving the monitors with an > All-In-Wonder 9600 pro. TB! works very well. FWIW On wich screen do you run TB, and do open the editor and folder viewer on the same sceen as TB. Do you use the multi-display software that come with some ATI cards (I don't remember the name...)? -- Best regards, Simonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! on a dual display monitor
Hello Chris, Friday, February 25, 2005, 4:52:29 PM, you wrote: > Marten Gallagher @ 2005-Feb-25 4:48:21 PM > "The Bat! on a dual display monitor" > <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Is the secondary monitor to the left or the right of the primary >>> monitor? > Yes. A secondary monitor to the left of a primary monitor has negative > left-right pixel coordinates. The Bat! will not allow a width coordinate > of less that zero, so things go wrong often on the left monitor. There > are a few bug reports about it. Find one and see how it is > progressing. I just switched my secondary monitor to the right and nothing changed (I mean by software, not physically... :-)), the windows don't retain their positions. -- Best regards, Simon Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! on a dual display monitor
Hello Chris, Friday, February 25, 2005, 4:41:30 PM, you wrote: > Is the secondary monitor to the left or the right of the primary > monitor? The secondary monitor is on the left of the primary, each using 1024X768 size. -- Best regards, Simon Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! on a dual display monitor
Hello Marten, Friday, February 25, 2005, 12:51:11 PM, you wrote: > I can't answer that but a word of warning: don't try to adjust > the column widths in message listings by dragging the join between > the headings... unless of course you want the entire column to > disappear... I already discovered the column thing :-(, it's a nice way to discover how to fiddle in the registry... I had to delete a key in HKLU/software/Rit/thebat/... to restore things... I'm still learning TB, and I like the powerful features of this software but as you said, stranges things are happening using it on a secondary monitor. Nothing is perfect in this world... ;-) -- Best regards, Simon Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! on a dual display monitor
Is there a way to tell The Bat! to remember where was last open a specific window i.e.: I keep TB open on my secondary monitor, but I would like to open the editor or my view folder window on my primary monitor without having to drag these windows each time... -- Simon Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The BAt and PDA's
Hi Jim, On Tuesday, February 1, 2005, 9:36:46 PM, you wrote: > I have just received a company PDA with Windows CE. I would like > to continue to use the Bat, does anyone know how to synchronise from > PC to PDA? If there's a The Bat! version for windows CE, you could use the Synchronise menu options. If not, you might be able to use The Bat!s import and export options if you set up folders on the PC and PDA, if the CE mail client supports any of the standard formats. -- Simon Elliott http://www.ctsn.co.uk Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linux, as a possible TB 'environment' and 'in general' (was: Re: bayesit063.rar bayesit064.rar bayesit065.rar ?)
On 22-9 at 15:30 Mica wrote: Hello > Well, it's enough to know that Linux is made by a scientist, for > scientists, and Windows is made... well, also by a scientist (-;, but - > for the *masses*, in order to get a raw picture of differences we are > facing. > Windows is possible to be driven by an "ordinary" person, but for Linux > you need a "pro" driver, an expert - at the start. This is a very popular misunderstanding, made by people who have used Windows for a long time. Think about this: You have spend 5 or 10 years beeing a Windows expert, and knows how to do everything. Then you try Linux (with a GUI), and suddenly everything is done differently. It would be just as hard going the other way, from Linux to Windows. You can see it the same way as when you get a new VCR: You have spend 5 years figuring out how to program the old one, and when you get a new one you can't program it. > Recent "popularization" of Linux, I will not call the Linux GUI (called X) "recent". It have existed for many years, and actually I saw X with a scinable GUI 5 years before Microsoft launched Windows XP. > offered just a *shell*, Which is good. When you build a lot of graphics into the core of an operating system, there is way more thing which can go wrong. The Linux core does not force you to use a certain interface - Windows does. > in an attempt > to make an impression of something "familiar" > This shell sometimes work, and sometimes do not. Depending on its > connection with the "engine". All of that (KDE, GNOME...) is still > *very* buggy, additionally, and if you want to *work* stably, you have > to tweak it and tweak - until you are blue in face. (-: The main problem is lack of drivers, because many hardware manufacturers does not write drivers for Linux, and will not releese information so other people can do it. But in fact it works almost every time now - you can get a Linux disto called Knoppix, which boots off a CD-ROM and right into a GUI without touching the hard drive - you can't do that with Windows! > Hence, Linux, simply, is NOT "easy", and will never be. (-: It IS easy, if you spend as much time learning it as you have spend on Windows. > Linux is simply made for *scientists* and its "nature" cannot be > "altered" by any "shell" over the engine. The Linux core was made as a hobby project > I think that this fact (that is made originally for scientists) is a > best hint (which really could help in orienteering) about "nature" of > Linux, for anyone having in mind *using* it for something. I think you forget, that computers was made for scientists, so if you are right, most people can't use a computer. When I first used Linux many years ago, the GUI was as you describe: A bit buggy, not easy to use, when you should use a floppy disk you should "mount" it yourself etc., but that is the past, and Linux is just as user friendly as Windows - it's just not a Windows clone, but a different operating system where you have a free choice - just like when you want to buy a car. I mostly use Windows, partly due to some old hardware which only have Windows drivers, and partly due to TheBat :-) -- Best regards, Simon Mikkelsen Contact information http://mikkelsen.tv/simon/contact/ Using TheBat 2.12.00 on Windows 2000 (NT 5.0) build 2195, Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting messages on reply
Hi Marck On Monday, September 20, 2004, 12:13:14 PM, you wrote: [snip] Thanks for this. I haven't got into using macros yet. I'll have a look at this. -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quoting messages on reply
Hi I've currently set my quoting when I reply to messages to be initials. This means that if I'm replying to Joe Bloggs, the quoted text looks like: JB> This is text that JB> Joe Bloggs wrote A user of Agent tells me that if I use this format, Agent doesn't highlight the quoted text. So I'd like to change my reply quoting to look like this: >JB: This is text that >JB: Joe Bloggs wrote Is this possible? -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons Help
On 24-7 at 7:52 Ian wrote: Hello MT>> I'm sorry to ask what will probably be a stupid question but where can MT>> I download the latest rogue picture files? I have the X-Rogue header MT>> added to my headers but it's not showing the pics. > There are various messages that have the links, but I cannot locate > them quickly. It can be downloaded from http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip I've made a little .bat file, which is executed when a new person in the rogues is announced. It simply downloads the file and unzips it: cd "C:\Program files\TheBat\Images" "C:\Program files\wget\wget.exe" -N http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip "C:\Program files\PKWARE\PKZIPC\pkzipc.exe" -extract -overwrite=all "C:\Program files\TheBat\Images\rogues.zip" It uses wget (free from http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/wget.html#downloading) and pkzip (not free http://www.pkware.com/), but any command line zip tool will do. Note that older versions of pkunzip are avalible for free, but they do not understand long file names, and are useless in this case. If many people starts to auto download the rogues file, it may be hard for the server when new people are announced. In that case it would help to make a file with e.g. the 10 newest images and the settings file. -- Best regards, Simon Mikkelsen Contact information http://mikkelsen.tv/simon/contact/ Using TheBat 2.12.00 on Windows 2000 (NT 5.0) build 2195, Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting Office Filters
On Monday, July 19, 2004, 3:38:17 PM, Thomas wrote: SE>> Any thoughts? TF> Time for an update? Might be a good idea. I'll look into this. -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorting Office Filters
A couple of oddities: I subscribe to three mailing lists, of which this is one. I have filters to send messages from each list to its own folder. Two of these filters look for an expression in "kludges", the other looks for a simple string in "subject". When I use the mouse to move between the filters, the "location" field seems to stay set to the first filter rule. eg. if I start by looking at a filter where location is "kludges" then "kludges" is dispayed even if "subject" has been set. And the filters which look for an expression in "kludges" works, but the fikter which looks for a simple string in "subject" doesn't. Any thoughts? -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
On Thursday, June 24, 2004, 12:33:02 PM, Ben wrote: Wayne>> I didn't say there was anything terribly wrong with it, Wayne>> I just asked whether the plugin was necessary. BA> Its not necessary, but then again AV programs generally aren't BA> specifically necessary but they do a valuable job and make us feel BA> safer... I usually don't run AV programs in resident mode, because they interfere with other things I need to do. Because of this, I find the AVG plugin I'm using with TB! to be very useful. -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I don't want more windows
On Sunday, June 20, 2004, 8:31:40 PM, MFiF wrote: MF> I'm beginning to suspect one of the more offputting things - for me - about MF> Pegasus and The Bat! is the fact that windows seem to open up on me when MF> and where I don't expect them to. I really like a single document MF> interface, as Opera calls it, and subwindows that are all maximized within MF> a regulated scheme. Personally I really, really didn't get on with Opera's tab'ed window scheme, and the only reason I continued my evaluation of Opera beyond the first few minutes was that it offered the alternative option of a separate window for each session. Similarly with MS Word: I much prefer the newer versions of MS Word that don't have that horrible MDI thing. I'm not quite sure why multiple windows works better for me; I expect many of these things are personal preferences. MF> Is there something simple I can do about this MF> behaviour? Maybe if I can fix that I could stick with The Bat! instead of MF> returning to Eudora permanently (from M2). If The Bat! ever does move to a more MDI type interface, I hope that an option is retained to keep things the way they are now. Perhaps your example of Opera is the best way forward: Opera provides both options. MF> Mary Fons "One window per program, please" Can we change that to "At least one window per program, please"? -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Large message on Yahoo POP3 account
On 21-6 at 8:50 Shahar wrote: Hello > I'm having troubles with large messages on a Yahoo! account. > I'm using POP3 to retrieve the message. > Please see the account log: > !21.06.2004, 09:40:29: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last > commands sent were: "TOP 4 55", "RETR 1") (cut) > TB can't download the message and I have to login manually using a web browser. > Using TB 2.11.03 on Win 2000 Pro. F-Secure as Anti Virus and ADSL connection. I have the same problem with one e-mail account (at pop3.tiscali.dk). It happens when I try to download some virus infected e-mails and my Norton Antivirus 2003 tries to clean them. It can clean some viruses without any error, but not all. I also have that problem with Mozilla Thunderbird. Have you tried disabling virus checking of incomming e-mails? (but do not disable all virus checking). -- Best regards, Simon Mikkelsen Contact information http://mikkelsen.tv/simon/contact/ Using TheBat 2.11.02 on Windows 2000 (NT 5.0) build 2195, Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v2
On 19-6 at 21:21 Allie wrote: Hello Allie >> I have just solved my problem, which turned out to be 65000 tmp files >> in a tmp folder I didn't knew existed. It was located at the path >> c:\Documents and settings\\Locale settings\Temp\ >> and the files was named bat*.tmp > Did you recently import a lot of messages to any of the accounts? > TB! normally deletes those temp files and when they fail to be deleted > the reason needs to be sought after. Importing a lot of messages is > one reason. Thinking about it, I have a guess: I use Norton Antivirus, but when I get infected mail from a specific server (pop3.tiscali.dk) the connection breakes with a message like: FETCH: Connection to host broken (last command sent were: "UIDL", "RETR 1") (the commands vary a bit) It's an old account that pretty much only get virus and spam, so once in a while I disable Nortons scanning of incomming mail, resulting in that it blocks TheBat from writing the infected files to the disk. The .tmp-files are actually empty, and can not be deleted untill TheBat have been closed/restarted. If TheBat just deleted all bat*.tmp files when it started, it should solve many problems like this one. The problem with broken connection and NAV is present with all mail clients I've tried (e.g. Mozilla Thunderbird), so I guess it's a bug in NAV. Today I just canceled the problematic account, so for me there is no problem anymore. -- Best regards Simon Mikkelsen Contact information http://mikkelsen.tv/simon/contact/ Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
On 5-6 at 17:55 Allie wrote: Hello Allie > - check your temp folder for overload. TB! uses the temp folder when > downloading messages and an overloaded temp folder will slow it down. This turned out to be the problem. I found a tmp folder I didn't knew off, which contained 65000 bat*.tmp files. They are now gone, and TheBat is fast again. To other people with this problem, the folder was located at c:\Documents and settings\\Local settings\Temp\ (note: I use a danish Windows 2000, so "Local settings" is directly translated from the danish version and may have a different name in the english version.) -- Best regards Simon Mikkelsen Contact information http://mikkelsen.tv/simon/contact/ Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v2
On 19-6 at 2:52 Jan-Robin wrote: Hello > when I upgrade to 2.11.02 from 1.63/beta 11 the connection (POP3) to my e-mail > provider (fastmail) becomes very, very slow (not more then 20-30 kB/s > with a 3Mbit line), when I switch back to 1.63 / beta 11 the > connection is very fast. > SMTP works fine, fasmtail says "no problem on our servers". Allie Martin gave me the following advice on about the same problem. AM> Things that come to mind and are worth checking: AM> AM> - folder compression, especially for the Inbox and Outbox. Though AM> messages are filtered to other folders and most messages are AM> immediately sent, a copy of every incoming and outgoing message is AM> stored in those folders. If you don't compress them, TB! will soon AM> need to use a lot of resources to handle them. AM> AM> - plugin use, especially antispam have been reportedly culpable for AM> problems as you're experiencing. The same goes for spam and antivirus AM> proxy software or those that monitor mail traffic before TB! gets at AM> it. NOD32 uses a Winsock scanner which causes a TB! memory leak on my AM> system. That same Winsock scanner was causing my mailserver to crash AM> while sending mail and then quickly manipulating IMAP mail. I used to AM> think it was TB! causing the server crashes. AM> AM> - a mailbase that is problematic will have TB! spending an AM> inordinately long time with it. AM> AM> - check your temp folder for overload. TB! uses the temp folder when AM> downloading messages and an overloaded temp folder will slow it down. I have just solved my problem, which turned out to be 65000 tmp files in a tmp folder I didn't knew existed. It was located at the path c:\Documents and settings\\Locale settings\Temp\ and the files was named bat*.tmp Now I've created a batfile, which I've placed at c:\Documents and settings\\Locale settings\ which contains the line del Temp\bat*.tmp I've set TheBats scheduler to run it once a day, so now TheBat cleans up after itself. (note: I use a danish Windows 2000 so "Locale settings" is translated from the danish version, and may have a different name in the english or other versions.) -- Best regards, Simon Mikkelsen Contact information http://mikkelsen.tv/simon/contact/ Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
First AV
I've been using TB! for about 6 weeks now and just had my first AV. I was looking at the folder into which this mailing list is filtered, the scheduled mail connection happened, and after that the folder seemed empty and I sometimes got AVs moving to other folders. Kill TB! via the task manager (it wouldn't exit gracefully as it thought it had tasks active) and restart, and everything now seems OK. a) Should I be worried by this? b) Should I send an error report to someone? -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Word wrapping
Hi On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 5:05:03 PM, Martin wrote: SE>> When I'm using the message editor, I find that I have to keep on SE>> doing Utilities->Format Block->Left (or Alt-L) to keep my paragraphs SE>> correctly wrapped and justified. Is there any mode where word SE>> wrapping happens on an ongoing basis as happens in many word SE>> processors and text editors? MW> What's your 'Wrap text to' option set to? (Options | Preferences | Editor MW> preferences)... and what editor do you use? If you're using MicroEd MW> there's another setting for 'Auto-wrap' that needs to be checked. Thanks for this. Auto Wrap is on, but Auto Format is off. The latter seems to be what I need. One minor irritation: Auto Format doesn't seem to understand the "minus minus space" .sig separator, and wraps the separator and following lines if you type on the blank line above the .sig separator. -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hi On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 1:38:41 PM, Gerard wrote: G> I still have a old mobile phone. All you can do with it is call and be G> called. No SMS, no camera, no diary, no ringtones, no graphic display, no G> games, no bluetooth,no picture messaging, no nothing. Just call. G> You think there is a market for such phones? Yes, IMHO, if it's cheap enough. Loads of people would get them for their kids. It wouldn't be cool'n'trendy, so no-one would steal it. It would be functional, and it wouldn't be the end of the world if it got lost or damaged. And it would enable parents to say: "I'll give you a phone so that you can call us in an emergency, but I won't help you play 'my phone is cooler than yours' with your mates." But it would be nice if it had SMS. Perhaps that's the problem: we all want a simple email program, but it would be nice if it had XYZ. And if everyone's XYZ is different... G> You think there is a market for just plain email programs? Yes, as long as it has XYZ :-) -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Word wrapping
Hi When I'm using the message editor, I find that I have to keep on doing Utilities->Format Block->Left (or Alt-L) to keep my paragraphs correctly wrapped and justified. Is there any mode where word wrapping happens on an ongoing basis as happens in many word processors and text editors? -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
sat. 5-6 at 17:55 Allie wrote: > Things that come to mind and are worth checking: > - folder compression, especially for the Inbox and Outbox. I've run the compleate maintenence on all folders in all accounts - it only recovered some disc space, but did nothing to the CPU problems. > - plugin use, especially antispam have been reportedly culpable for > problems as you're experiencing. I tried to remove my only plugin BayersIt, and it didn't help either. I also tried to disable my Norton Antivirus. > - a mailbase that is problematic will have TB! spending an > inordinately long time with it. It happens in all folders, in all of my 4 accounts. One have only handled less than 100 mails. > - check your temp folder for overload. TB! uses the temp folder when > downloading messages and an overloaded temp folder will slow it down. Empty - didn't help. I think it is a regular bug, and not just the usual errors in the mailbox files. The problem has existed from I ran 2.11 the first time, and I have never had any problems with 2.x. It would be too much of a coincidence if 4 mailboxes should be damaged at the exact same time as I upgraded. As far as I know the installation does not alter the mailbox files, and no one else have had this problem -- Best regards Simon Mikkelsen Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
On 6-6 at 17:47 Thomas wrote: Hello Thomas >>> - folder compression, especially for the Inbox and Outbox. SM>> I've run the compleate maintenence on all folders in all accounts - it SM>> only recovered some disc space, but did nothing to the CPU problems. > I noticed that TB runs faster after a defrag. I now use Diskeeper for > degragging, as it is faster and finds more fragmented files that the > built-in Windows defragger. It's not long ago I ran Norton Speeddisk (a defragger). But during the peaks there is no disc activity at all, actually when there is any disc activity it goes down. -- Best regards Simon Mikkelsen Contact information http://mikkelsen.tv/simon/contact/ Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
sat. 5-6 at 17:55 Allie wrote: > Things that come to mind and are worth checking: > - folder compression, especially for the Inbox and Outbox. I've run the compleate maintenence on all folders in all accounts - it only recovered some disc space, but did nothing to the CPU problems. > - plugin use, especially antispam have been reportedly culpable for > problems as you're experiencing. I tried to remove my only plugin BayersIt, and it didn't help either. I also tried to disable my Norton Antivirus. > - a mailbase that is problematic will have TB! spending an > inordinately long time with it. It happens in all folders, in all of my 4 accounts. One have only handled less than 100 mails. > - check your temp folder for overload. TB! uses the temp folder when > downloading messages and an overloaded temp folder will slow it down. Empty - didn't help. I think it is a regular bug, and not just the usual errors in the mailbox files. The problem has existed from I ran 2.11 the first time, and I have never had any problems with 2.x. It would be too much of a coincidence if 4 mailboxes should be damaged at the exact same time as I upgraded. As far as I know the installation does not alter the mailbox files, and no one else have had this problem -- Best regards Simon Mikkelsen Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.0000:07:21.421 768 853Ready 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.0000:07:21.250 1920 7 5934007Ready 0:00:34.515 0:04:51.0780:07:21.078 808 8 1535 Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.1710:07:20.703 776 8 7 Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.0000:07:20.093 416 7 5547 Wait:UserReq 0:00:01.218 0:00:02.6560:06:14.062 744 8 2 Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.0000:05:14.281 SM> I run it when TheBat has finished feching about 110 mails. I have SM> a 1024/128 ADSL, 2.5 GHz CPU and 1 GB RAM, so around 8 minutes for SM> just above normal 100 mails (mostly spam) is a lot. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Dokumenter\download\tmp>pslist -x 1596 PsList 1.26 - Process Information Lister Copyright (C) 1999-2004 Mark Russinovich Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com Process and thread information for ANNE-GRETHE: NamePid Pri Thd Hnd PrivCPU TimeElapsed Time thebat 1596 8 9 133 7004 0:06:32.890 0:08:39.531 VM WSPriv Priv Pk Faults NonP Page 50244 1461670047396 84667 39 Tid PriCswtchState User Time Kernel Time Elapsed Time 2168 10 29618Ready 0:00:01.734 0:00:01.6400:08:39.515 796 8 2732 Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.0000:08:38.093 732 8 124 Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.0000:08:37.015 580 7 134 Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.0000:08:36.125 2444 8 9 Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.0000:08:35.718 768 862 Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.0000:08:35.546 808 8 1555 Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.1710:08:35.000 776 8 8 Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.0000:08:34.390 744 8 2 Wait:UserReq 0:00:00.000 0:00:00.0000:06:28.578 -- Best regards Simon Mikkelsen Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to mark junk and quarantaine mail as read ?
Hi On Saturday, June 5, 2004, 11:33:23 AM, I wrote: SE> Also, is there any way to suppress the message box that gets displayed SE> when a virus is detected in mail? I'd like my mail to be silently SE> moved to the quarantine folder. (And marked as read, as per the OP) OK, I've found out how to suppress the message box now. Options->Preferences->Anti Virus Highlight AVG and click the Configure button Uncheck the Display Warning Window checkbox. This suppresses the message when received messages are scanned. Neatly, you still get the message if you save or open the infected attachment. -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to mark junk and quarantaine mail as read ?
W> My AVG plug in move mail with virus to quarantaine folder. But these mails are W> not mark as read, so my tray icon still animated and account name is bold so I'm W> never sure that I've read all messages. Also, is there any way to suppress the message box that gets displayed when a virus is detected in mail? I'd like my mail to be silently moved to the quarantine folder. (And marked as read, as per the OP) -- Simon Elliott http://www.ctsn.co.uk Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
2.11 consume all CPU resources
Today I upgraded TheBat from v 2.10 to 2.11 by installing on top of the old 2.10. Every time I run TheBat 2.11, the CPU usage goes to 100%, except when TheBat is using the disk a lot. I've tried to remove the BayersIt-plugin and rename it's folder, and move the content of my junk-folder to another folder - without any change. Some tasks, like reading mail, viewing folders and altering options is running as fast as they always have done, while reciving messages and moving messages is painfully slow. When I try to exit TheBat, I get the warning message "Some tasks are active now. Do you want to exit when they are finished?" with the buttons "Yes", "No" and "Abort". Nothing happens when I press any of them, and I have to kill TheBat from the Windows task manager. I use Win 2000 professional danish, with the latest service packs. -- Best regards, Simon Mikkelsen Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: AV
m> AVG or Kaspersky. I'm not registered with TBOT and need a quick vote, m> so I hope the Moderators will allow me this quick post as I'm short m> of time (Thanks, Guys, I hope )> I'm using AVG. It has a plugin for The Bat! Does Kaspersky have a plugin for The Bat!? -- Simon Elliott http://www.ctsn.co.uk Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help File
On Sunday, May 30, 2004, 4:30:54 PM, you wrote: D> Actually, you'll need to download 2.10.03. D> I had the same problem, the slightly older version is missing the help file. D> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php That version installed the help file. Thanks. -- Simon Elliott http://www.ctsn.co.uk Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help File
Hi Marck, On Sunday, May 30, 2004, 2:56:19 PM, you wrote: SE>> About a month ago I downloaded The Bar! Version 2.1, and I've SE>> just registered it. Can someone advise where I can get the help SE>> file from? When I select help from the menu, I get a message SE>> saying that the help file can't be found. MDP> The help file is not a condition of registration and should have MDP> been there all along. There isn't a place to get it from separately MDP> to the full installer. If I were you, I'd just reinstall. Will I lose any config or messages if I reinstall? -- Simon Elliott http://www.ctsn.co.uk Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! Help File
Hi About a month ago I downloaded The Bar! Version 2.1, and I've just registered it. Can someone advise where I can get the help file from? When I select help from the menu, I get a message saying that the help file can't be found. -- Simon Elliott http://www.ctsn.co.uk Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:html email failure
Hi daveiw, On 22 February 2004 at 13:48:27GMT +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent an E-Mail mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on the subject of "html email failure": dcn> No matter how I choose the html option, either in options dcn> for message pane or the prefs on the main window, it doesn't dcn> work. This is a little annoying, it hasn't worked for me at all, dcn> surely there is a simple fix for this? I see the same issue, cannot send or save for send later. If you have the option "Spell Check On Send" enabled, turn it off. When I turned off the spell checker - message sent immediately. Does this work for you? -- Regards, Simon Fincham Using "The Bat": Version 2.04.4 on Windows XP Pro SP1 Build 2600 AV System: http://www.nod32.com SPAM Detection: http://keir.net/K9.html Current version is 2.04.04 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Susanne, On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:11:06 -0800 your time, you said: > How about folders and filters? If you have any manually created folders in your account tree named 'Inbox' or 'Sent' _OTHER_ than the normal account tree Inbox and Sent folders you should rename them to something else as TB!v2 will convert them to account folders. If you have folder templates assigned to manually created folders named Inbox and Sent you won't be able to access their templates or get rid of them. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #2246. Quarry Id Mess Owl ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP+62w5JmyHDfgGLBEQII3gCg4RM0unsS1F8fn++tN3o5L5S9OywAoITN l+Z7leRBP1lbqCE0001OzFOw =LZII -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! documentation poor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allister, On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:00:22 +1300 your time, you said: AJ> How many out there would be prepared to may more for the next AJ> version of TB! if a comprehensive, structured help system were AJ> provided? Well I hope that not too many would be! The idea of paying extra for the manual isn't a new one of course...but usually that's only when the manual is made available in print; a hard copy IOW. A help system should be an integral part of any software package and purchasers shouldn't be expected to pay extra to acquire it. It'd be like buying a washing machine and paying extra for the instructions on how to operate it. It's up to RIT to make certain that their product can be 'operated' by supplying adequate documentation to support it. If we learnt from RIT that the cost of producing better documentation was going to lead to an increase in the price of The Bat! I think some people would feel quite split over it. One of the attractions of TB! is its price, and I think that a price hike would make it a less attractive choice for those contemplating moving away from free versions. At just under £25 sterling/35 I think TB! is priced just about right myself. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #2647. War Qed Slimy Sour ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP+lVfJJmyHDfgGLBEQKx6wCg5VZ8faJFtWTUJ4TrlJcsRZ5XUY8AnifO HujGii+zgziohKU3nDacXLKg =VZAy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.0 Underwhelmed...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello rich, On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:49:11 -0500 your time, you said: rg> There is no need to be such a dick. Having a tantrum are we? lol Merry Christmas - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #2696. War Dos Lye Squirm ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP+jicJJmyHDfgGLBEQJLAACeMcjuRrfhXGFltFqiSR+F8PYmhZYAnAuA e/0ZKZzSifMLQQZ/sWUB3KJd =f608 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.0 Underwhelmed...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Edgar, On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:51:04 +0100 your time, you said: E> Although the help here in this group is great, It should not need E> to exist. Hmmm, well I think that is a romantic notion myself. So these types of support systems [this list and others] exist because of the lack of good help files with software? I really don't think so :-/ Just take a look around the Net @ other support forums/lists and ponder a while on some of the dumb-arsed questions that people ask! You could construct the best help file system on the planet and release it with your software and people will still defeat it by not 'reading the bleeping manual' and not being able to understand the terminology used, etc. In actual fact, many of the questions asked on this list could easily be answered by reading the existing support files. E> There should be a good help system. Well yes, actually I would agree with this, and have made my feelings known about this subject in the past. Personally, I think RIT Labs are doing The Bat! a disservice by releasing their client with the current help system; although there is easily enough information in the current help file system to get most people up and running it still needs revamping and made more comprehensive. So IMHO The Bat! does _need__ a better designed and more up-to-date help system, I agree. But I can think of many excellent programs with the same shortcomings...not that that justifies it of course. However, I don't believe for a moment that a better help file system would make this list redundant. Not a chance of it! This list is invaluable, and will continue to be so even after/IF RIT get their act together and redo the manual. E> Companies do not have the time to read loads of mailing list to E> find out how the e-mail client works. Companies do not have to read "loads" of mailing lists to find out how The Bat! email client works. That is misleading. There is a help file with TB! and there is this list. Not exactly stretching resources now is it? :-/ I've shown many, many people how to use The Bat! in under 20 minutes. Some of those have been new to computers and some have been veterans. If someone in an company IT dept. really can't work out how to use TB! then they probably need to get some other less demanding job...maybe basket making or something. E> Being a bit more "mainstream" will at least help. No at all. Having better help files would help a little, but those without prior experience, the lazy, and those in need of more complex help will turn to a list like this one, as has always been the way. And yes, I can understand people's criticisms, and of course it is only right that criticisms should be made, but it irks me somewhat when remarks go beyond fair criticism and become unfair put-downs...that strikes me as being somewhat immature (not directed at you of course). I think if you dislike a product so intensely you should really be seeking out something else more suited to your needs. There are plenty of flavours of email client about, although they won't offer you the same excellent range of features that this client can. As I said, TB! has faults but people on this list usually attempt to work around them until the faults have been rectified. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #1830. Mar Qed I Sly Row Us ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP+g1YZJmyHDfgGLBEQKjTACfXqVBqSY9Byh5Liv7GNPJvtqTkpEAnio0 zVfy+LBQ2fzgX9B9yEHOtCKk =gxJ8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.0 Underwhelmed...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello rich, On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:29:19 -0500 your time, you said: rg> Again, both are quite unprofessional. What a load of nonsensical claptrap! I've read some comments on this list over the years but my word, these last few remarks really take the biscuit. There is nothing 'unprofessional' about the way The Bat! editor functions, and I must say it is a very discouraging choice of wording. There are distinctive ways of doing things in TB! but those ways work well once you have adapted to them. There is plenty of help available on this list to assist new users in moving to The Bat! from other email clients, and the people offering advice obviously appreciate that it can take a while to complete the transition, and come to terms with the new environment. But you have to at the least appreciate that _every_ email client has it's unique points, and TB! is no exception. If you want really decide that you want TB! to be another email client then switch to that. The benefit of using an excellent client like TB! is that it ISN'T always completely 'mainstream', and so it does require users to learn how to use some of it's many useful features. And TB! is rich in features, unlike other clients I won't mention. Although TB! isn't perfect, because nothing is, it stands head and shoulders above the competition. I think it is perfectly fine to discuss the disadvantages of a program, and talk about its ideal features, etc. but it's a bit unnecessary, unhelpful, and even disrespectful, IMO, to be hypercritical for the sake of it. Anyone would think you, and a few others, were being forced to use TB! rather than using it by choice. Merry Christmas. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #1532. Law Dey Irs Mrs Quo ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP+ePUZJmyHDfgGLBEQLTMACdEQHRqjyenm0dtvsN3xDFwEYX3cQAn27o NEjiokBBIRlIO38IO5yMTU1J =BqAJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Christmas Discount
Hello Wayne, On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:03:12 -0500 your time, you said: WH> Very few software vendors have a grandfather update policy of a WH> year. [...snip] If your boss doesn't understand that already than WH> he hasn't been paying attention to the software industry. I really don't think that's the point Peter is making. It's been only a few months since many existing users upgraded to v2.x at the discounted upgrade, many upgraded because there was a set time period to upgrade in at the discounted price...so may upgraded believing that the discount offer wouldn't get any better than it was. But along comes Xmas and all of a sudden the discount is greater, and it is now obvious to his boss that it would have been wiser to hang on and get the upgrades for less. Not only that, but those that upgrade now are getting a better discount than the early adopters, those folk that do all the work 'checking TB! out' and reporting bugs. I can understand where Peter is coming from, and I think he's got a fair point actually. -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #738. Islam Qed Sour Wry ¶ Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wilcards Strings In Filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Steve, On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:01:17 + your time, you said: <..snip..> SM> Is there anything else anyone can think of that may be causing SM> this? PIMs will often steal associations as well, or any software that has combined mail handling capabilities. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #3073. Yaw Qed Rim Slur So ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP83h6ZJmyHDfgGLBEQK3PQCgtg6mkrMpIE3DyBNSq948GXkfaeQAn0qp ZMLoZYKS3wUiEpUp0AENFeqt =LnpR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Signature delimiter - Test
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:56:12 -0700, Leif Gregory wrote: > I checked back through my archives to see if you'd posted to one of > the TB lists (other than TBOT) using Pocomail to see. I didn't find > any. > > Would you like to shoot a message using Pocomail to one of the > other TB lists as a test? Sure. I have also tested sending to a friends E-Mail, they use ' Thunderbird ' which seems to handle ' Pocomail ' output OK. Let's see what happens? -- Regards, Simon Fincham --- Antivirus: NOD32 v 2.1.568 [02/12/2003] Anti-SPAM: K9 v1.17 --- Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mac attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Adrian, On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:57:48 + your time, you said: AJM> I've received attachments from a Mac user (using Word for Mac). I AJM> have been unable to read them. I think the problem is caused by AJM> illegal characters such as "/" being used in the file name. AJM> I'm using 2.01.3 set to "keep attachment files in message bodies". If you need them desperately then you could try this: 1. Export email to .msg format 2. Open the .msg file in a text editor (without wordwrap on). 3. Look for the base64 encoded file by looking for the MIME boundary declaration in the message. Here is an example: - --begin example - 10E4A19720729F06 Content-Type: image/gif; name="routeradmin.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="routeradmin.gif" R0lGODlhAAUABPcAAH8AAAGBAICBqIAAgAB+gMC+tcLZv6bJ8QEE3wIcdgY1qAAe yQNE5AJSsQF4PwJ4cQV7pwOHUwCJWgGPcQKcAQsMDREVGwkZQA8yZg86gwNcTRtPwghhzAlvBwh1 <..the rest of base64 encoded image snipped..> - --end example 4. change the filename after the "name=" part and the "filename=" part so that they are the same name; IOW change the original filename to newfile.ext, where 'newfile' is anything you like, and ext is whatever the file extension should be. - - btw: it will be these original filenames that contain the offending characters so you are simply removing the offending characters and adding something sensible ;-). 5. Save the file. Close it and import it back into TB! It's a workaround at least. Hope it works :-) - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #136. Lead Is Mrs Quo Wry ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP8eEFJJmyHDfgGLBEQJKLACgvFGTSj6jIqtg3lyKMJK3EH1eBSgAoNYo 3Cf+AN/efxaL7u1NVKdktg3Z =RWS4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Mailer and User-Agent
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Carsten, On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:20:23 +0100 your time, you said: CT> So there's no need for X-Ray :-) That would be nice. But you'd lose the other functionality available with X-Ray. X-Ray performs filtering on both SMTP and POP3, which can be very useful. And you aren't just restricted to X-Mailer: headers either. I'd like to see something like X-Ray as a plugin for TB! I don't know whether that is possible, given the nature of the software, but there ya go. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #651. Square Wold Irs My ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP79wspJmyHDfgGLBEQInKQCg3LyhQKGP/CYnlBomGCm22wtucUYAoNXZ NbSmaCV1wWnb+pKt5WF0fogS =Vrd+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamButcher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Darrin, On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:14:22 -0800 your time, you said: D> Are there any drawbacks to a proxy vs a TB! Plug-in? I actually agree quite a lot with some of the points that Roelof made in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] but I'd just like to add that if you have a small LAN with 2, 3, 4, users etc. a proxy is probably the way forward. One installation, one setup serves all. I run a server on my home LAN. I use SpamPal for spam in front of my mail server (Mercury/32) which serves everyone connected to the network. It would seem a bit crazy to let everyone deal with the spam on an individual level in this kind of environment. But generally, what Roelof says I agree with. If X-ray was available as a plugin for TB! for example I wouldn't hesitate in using it instead of running it as another proxy on my server. Something like MyGate would also make an interesting plugin for TB! as well. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #2546. Qua Sword Myel Irs ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP7oZSZJmyHDfgGLBEQJp2ACdF0x8ulaDBuZKm1TX8A+daF9xpTAAn2Tg HKNH53KON347owaOi7o9qIkr =RPTu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! is No.1 in my book.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:11:30 + your time, you said: DB> BTW are you using Xray to edit your headers ... just curious Yes. :-) - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #1432. Awl Qed Rim Yo Russ ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP7ijS5JmyHDfgGLBEQItwgCgiHySxQD44ShjceX9KAra1Jtqj/YAoNdD wqn20k2wTdDHiSvcegQurEqk =WSLr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! is No.1 in my book.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello John, On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:57:25 -0600 your time, you said: JM> I don't understand this, could you explain it to me in a little more JM> detail? JM> Maybe a "for instance" or example or twol JM> Thank Above is your message quoted. In this case I selected/highlighted the text in your message that I was replying to and then I hit the F4 key. As you can see, TB! doesn't mess about with the quoted text at all, which is correct, as it is "quoted". However, sometimes when text is quoted it can prove to be a bit unwieldy, especially when the message you are replying to hasn't been wrapped beforehand and the text is on one line that strays across the width of the screen (say 130 or more characters for example). I'd therefore want to quickly reformat the lengthy quoted lines as I was replying to make them easily readable. To do this I'd simply place the TB! caret anywhere within or next to the quoted text with a single mouse click, and then either hit the ALT + L key to wrap the lines to the word wrap setting I'd previously set in Editor Preferences, or I'd hit the ALT + J key to wrap the lines to the word wrap setting and justify the text as well. This is your text after I've clicked anywhere in the text message to place the TB! caret, and then hit ALT + J: JM> I don't understand this, could you explain it to me in a little JM> more detail? Maybe a "for instance" or example or twol Thank Another example of when the wrap shortcut keys are useful is when you are typing a message with TB!'s autowrap feature on, and go back and edit parts of the text. For example, if I typed this: The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. and then went back and corrected it like this: The quick brown fox jumped over the *lackadaisical feline*. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox *leap frogged* over the lazy dog. The text would need reformatting. So a simple ALT + J/L would reformat it. And after this explanation I've just realised that what you were asking me to explain was an error. Doh! Ah well, I'll send this anyway. Someone else might find it useful...well you never know. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #581. Marquess I'd Lowry ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP7iX6ZJmyHDfgGLBEQJEBQCeJBZgCRS0jP8ofwk/MMBCJfSrz/MAnRji vpXFwSHhiXgv7lGjQeOSz3p8 =YZop -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! is No.1 in my book.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello John, On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:57:25 -0600 your time, you said: JM> I don't understand this, Oh dear, sorry. It's not surprising that you don't understand it really, as it should of course be ALT + J and ALT + C and not CTRL + J and CTRL + C. I should have gone straight to bed after I'd been out last night...I will in future ;-) - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #2217. Soar Qed I Slum Wry ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP7iVQpJmyHDfgGLBEQL4sgCgxK3cQrVFT3Qzin5GGTmV4E+eg08An3EJ sPKpi5sansOFxfVd1w/PGWkM =qsxX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
