subject:"Re\: \[Telrad\] WIMAX to LTE"

I've opened a ticket with support. Every LTE UE's reconnected at least
once since 6 this morning. Some of them > a dozen times.

Is anyone else experiencing this ?

Ian

On 05/08/2016 11:39 AM, Ian Fraser wrote:

Because I said I would as required for this.
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On 05/08/2016 10:52 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
I'm curious. If you had perfect LOS to your tower wouldn't a 5ghz
product be a cheaper choice or is that spectrum too noisy for you?

Ian Fraser wrote:

IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE
sector = 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one
tower" and one of the teaser emails had numbers something
similar to that some folks may have bought into that I guess...
blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, I suppose.

I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power behind
it. Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's are a Pain
in the ass. Here's one of them. This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear
on F3 from end to end. It is the only UE on this sector. Dead
center of the beam, and it disconnects randomly. Why?

Connection Time : _3_Hours_46_Minutes_25_Seconds

LTE Information
State: _Attached_

DL Frequency: _3655000_kHzUL Frequency: _3655000_kHz
Bandwidth: _1_kHz RSRP0: _-95_dBm
RSRP1: _-94_dBmRSRQ: _-8_dB
CINR0: _23_dB CINR1: _26_dB
SINR0: _23_dB SINR1: _26_dB
TX Power: _1_dBm PCI:_373_
Cell ID:_95490_

Ian

On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -
they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,
ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless
of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so
you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power
Point slides show... the math isn't there.

I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their
presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact
that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours
a day. I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those
charts though.

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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

Because I said I would as required for this.
http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/faster-more-reliable-internet-coming-to-rural-eastern-ontario-2079811.htm

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On 05/08/2016 10:52 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
I'm curious. If you had perfect LOS to your tower wouldn't a 5ghz
product be a cheaper choice or is that spectrum too noisy for you?

Ian Fraser wrote:

IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE
sector = 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one tower"
and one of the teaser emails had numbers something similar to
that some folks may have bought into that I guess... blindly
without doing the math ? Maybe, I suppose.

Connection Time : _3_Hours_46_Minutes_25_Seconds

LTE Information
State: _Attached_

Ian

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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

2016-08-05 Thread Joe Novak

I'm curious about this too. Are you achieving full modulation at 5+ miles
with the integrated CPE?

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> I'm curious.  If you had perfect LOS to your tower wouldn't a 5ghz product
> be a cheaper choice or is that spectrum too noisy for you?
>
>
> Ian Fraser wrote:
>
>
> IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE sector =
> 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one tower" and one of the
> teaser emails had numbers something similar to that some folks may have
> bought into that I guess... blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, I
> suppose.
>
> I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power behind it.
> Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's are a Pain in the
> ass.  Here's one of them.  This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear on F3 from end
> to end.  It is the only UE on this sector.  Dead center of the beam, and it
> disconnects randomly.  Why?
> Connection Time : *3* Hours *46* Minutes *25* Seconds
>
> LTE Information
> State: *Attached*
>
> DL Frequency: *3655000* kHz UL Frequency: *3655000* kHz
> Bandwidth: *1* kHz RSRP0: *-95* dBm
> RSRP1: *-94* dBm RSRQ: *-8* dB
> CINR0: *23* dB CINR1: *26* dB
> SINR0: *23* dB SINR1: *26* dB
> TX Power: *1* dBm PCI: *373*
> Cell ID: *95490*
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -
> they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,
> ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless
> of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so
> you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power
> Point slides show... the math isn't there.
>
> I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their
> presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact
> that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours
> a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those
> charts though.
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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

2016-08-05 Thread Andreas Wiatowski

I agree,

We have reserved all our LTE gear specifically for nLOS or NLOS... LOS is 
Cambium...hands down. Now with CNMedusa..many new and exciting opportunities. 
For every situation there is an appropriate tool.

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From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Jay Weekley
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To: telrad@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

I'm curious.  If you had perfect LOS to your tower wouldn't a 5ghz product be a 
cheaper choice or is that spectrum too noisy for you?
Ian Fraser wrote:



IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE sector = 9.3 K 
in revenue per month from ONE sector on one tower" and one of the teaser 
emails had numbers something similar to that some folks may have bought 
into that I guess... blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, I suppose.

I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power behind it.  Power 
seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's are a Pain in the ass.  Here's 
one of them.  This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear on F3 from end to end.  It is 
the only UE on this sector.  Dead center of the beam, and it disconnects 
randomly.  Why?
Connection Time :

3 Hours 46 Minutes 25 Seconds


LTE Information
State:

Attached

DL Frequency:

3655000 kHz

UL Frequency:

3655000 kHz

Bandwidth:

1 kHz

RSRP0:

-95 dBm

RSRP1:

-94 dBm

RSRQ:

-8 dB

CINR0:

23 dB

CINR1:

26 dB

SINR0:

23 dB

SINR1:

26 dB

TX Power:

1 dBm

PCI:

373

Cell ID:

95490






Ian


On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -

they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,

ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless

of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so

you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power

Point slides show... the math isn't there.

I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their

presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact

that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours

a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those

charts though.





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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

2016-08-05 Thread Jay Weekley


  
  
I'm curious.  If you had perfect LOS to your tower wouldn't a 5ghz
product be a cheaper choice or is that spectrum too noisy for you?

Ian Fraser wrote:


  
  
  
  IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on
ONE sector = 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one
tower" and one of the teaser emails had numbers something
similar to that some folks may have bought into that I
guess... blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, I suppose. 
  
  I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power
behind it.  Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's
are a Pain in the ass.  Here's one of them.  This is 8.3Km.
Perfect LOS; clear on F3 from end to end.  It is the only UE on
this sector.  Dead center of the beam, and it disconnects
randomly.  Why?
  
  

  

  

  

  Connection

Time :
  3 Hours 46 Minutes 25 Seconds

  

  

  

  

  
LTE
Information

  

  State:
  Attached
  
  
  
  


  DL

Frequency:
  3655000 kHz
  UL

Frequency:
  3655000 kHz


  Bandwidth:
  1 kHz
  RSRP0:
  -95 dBm


  RSRP1:
  -94 dBm
  RSRQ:
  -8 dB


  CINR0:
  23 dB
  CINR1:
  26 dB


  SINR0:
  23 dB
  SINR1:
  26 dB


  TX

Power:
  1 dBm
  PCI:
  373


  Cell

ID:
  95490

  

  

  

  
  
  
  
  
  Ian
  
  
  
  On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett
wrote:
  
  

  I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -
they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,
ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless
of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so
you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power
Point slides show... the math isn't there.


I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their 
presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact 
that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours 
a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those 
charts though.


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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

2016-08-05 Thread J Portman

Nick Dewar has it. It is version: 01.01.02.098.001

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:05:13 -0400, Ian Fraser wrote
> I already lock the UE's to the Frequency. I never thought oflocking the PLMN. 
>  What version is it and where did you get it ?
> I really doubt that there is another 3.65 Telrad user out herebut I suppose 
> it's not impossible.
> Ian
> 
> On 05/08/2016 8:29 AM, J Portman wrote:
> We experienced these random disconnects as well. 
> 
> Went to the customer site, hooked into the UE and waited (a fewhours) and lo 
> and behold, there was another Telrad operatortransmitting into our area with 
> a very weak signal.
> 
> You could watch the UE attempting to connect to the otheroperators equipment. 
> Don't know why and Telrad never had abelievable explanation.
> 
> Telrad UE will randomly attempt to migrate to any available BTSunless you are 
> using manual PLMN selection or manual frequencyselection.
> 
> We have mitigated this by using manual PLMN selection or manualfrequency 
> selection at the UE. There is a special version of thefirmware that allows 
> this.
> 
> Worse yet, the competition BTS was at -122 to -125db and oursignal was at 
> -95. Drove us nuts.
> 
> I filed several reports of this with Telrad and eventually got afirmware that 
> allowed us to lock the UE to our network.
> 
> End of those problems.
> 
> Latest 6.6 release is the most stable of all.
> 
> YMMV
> 
> JP
> 
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 11:22:35 -0400, Ian Fraserwrote
> > IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per monthon ONE sector = 
> > 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector onone tower" and one of the 
> > teaser emails had numberssomething similar to that some folks may have 
> > bought intothat I guess... blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, 
> > Isuppose. 
> > 
> > I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decentpower behind it.  
> > Power seems to be there but thesedisconnecting UE's are a Pain in the ass.  
> > Here's one of them. This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear on F3 from end to 
> > end.  It isthe only UE on this sector.  Dead center of the beam, and 
> > itdisconnects randomly.  Why?
> >

 Connection Time :  3 Hours 46 Minutes 25 Seconds

> > LTE Information

 State:  Attached  
> >  
> > 
 DL Frequency:  3655000 kHz  UL Frequency:  3655000 kHz 
 Bandwidth:  1 kHz  RSRP0:  -95 dBm 
 RSRP1:  -94 dBm  RSRQ:  -8 dB 
 CINR0:  23 dB  CINR1:  26 dB 
 SINR0:  23 dB  SINR1:  26 dB 
 TX Power:  1 dBm  PCI:  373 
 Cell ID:  95490

> > 
> > Ian
> > 
> > On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> >

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was

showing

-
they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being

stupidly,
ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE

regardless
of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company...

so
you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the

Power
Point slides show... the math isn't

there.
I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did 
their

presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact

that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours

a day. I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those

charts

though.

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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

I already lock the UE's to the Frequency. I never thought of locking the 
PLMN.  What version is it and where did you get it ?

I really doubt that there is another 3.65 Telrad user out here but I 
suppose it's not impossible.

Ian

On 05/08/2016 8:29 AM, J Portman wrote:

We experienced these random disconnects as well.

Went to the customer site, hooked into the UE and waited (a few hours) 
and lo and behold, there was another Telrad operator transmitting into 
our area with a very weak signal.

You could watch the UE attempting to connect to the other operators 
equipment. Don't know why and Telrad never had a believable explanation.

Telrad UE will randomly attempt to migrate to any available BTS unless 
you are using manual PLMN selection or manual frequency selection.

We have mitigated this by using manual PLMN selection or manual 
frequency selection at the UE. There is a special version of the 
firmware that allows this.

Worse yet, the competition BTS was at -122 to -125db and our signal 
was at -95. Drove us nuts.

I filed several reports of this with Telrad and eventually got a 
firmware that allowed us to lock the UE to our network.

End of those problems.

Latest 6.6 release is the most stable of all.

YMMV

JP

*On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 11:22:35 -0400, Ian Fraser wrote*
> IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE 
sector = 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one tower" 
and one of the teaser emails had numbers something similar to that 
some folks may have bought into that I guess... blindly without doing 
the math ? Maybe, I suppose.

>
> I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power behind 
it.  Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's are a Pain 
in the ass.  Here's one of them. This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear on 
F3 from end to end.  It is the only UE on this sector.  Dead center of 
the beam, and it disconnects randomly.  Why?

>
Connection Time :   _3_Hours_46_Minutes_25_Seconds

> LTE Information
State:  _Attached_  
>
>
DL Frequency:   _3655000_kHzUL Frequency:   _3655000_kHz
Bandwidth:  _1_kHz  RSRP0:  _-95_dBm
RSRP1:  _-94_dBmRSRQ:   _-8_dB
CINR0:  _23_dB  CINR1:  _26_dB
SINR0:  _23_dB  SINR1:  _26_dB
TX Power:   _1_dBm  PCI:_373_
Cell ID:_95490_

>
> Ian
>
> On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was
showing
-
they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being
stupidly,
ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE
regardless
of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company...
so
you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the
Power
Point slides show... the math isn't
there.

I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their

presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact

that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours

a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those

charts
though.

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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE



It still happened but I don't think it was as bad no.



On 04/08/2016 11:39 AM, Justin Davis wrote:

Did you have this same issue before you upgraded to the newest release?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Ian Fraser > wrote:



IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE
sector = 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one
tower" and one of the teaser emails had numbers something
similar to that some folks may have bought into that I
guess... blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, I suppose.

I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power
behind it.  Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's
are a Pain in the ass.  Here's one of them.  This is 8.3Km.
Perfect LOS; clear on F3 from end to end.  It is the only UE on
this sector.  Dead center of the beam, and it disconnects
randomly.  Why?

Connection Time :   _3_Hours_46_Minutes_25_Seconds

LTE Information
State:  _Attached_  

DL Frequency:   _3655000_kHzUL Frequency:   _3655000_kHz
Bandwidth:  _1_kHz  RSRP0:  _-95_dBm
RSRP1:  _-94_dBmRSRQ:   _-8_dB
CINR0:  _23_dB  CINR1:  _26_dB
SINR0:  _23_dB  SINR1:  _26_dB
TX Power:   _1_dBm  PCI:_373_
Cell ID:_95490_



Ian




On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -
they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,
ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless
of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so
you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power
Point slides show... the math isn't there.

I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their
presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact
that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours
a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those
charts though.


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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

2016-08-05 Thread Justin Davis

Did you have this same issue before you upgraded to the newest release?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Ian Fraser  wrote:

>
> IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE sector =
> 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one tower" and one of the
> teaser emails had numbers something similar to that some folks may have
> bought into that I guess... blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, I
> suppose.
>
> I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power behind it.
> Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's are a Pain in the
> ass.  Here's one of them.  This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear on F3 from end
> to end.  It is the only UE on this sector.  Dead center of the beam, and it
> disconnects randomly.  Why?
> Connection Time : *3* Hours *46* Minutes *25* Seconds
>
> LTE Information
> State: *Attached*
>
> DL Frequency: *3655000* kHz UL Frequency: *3655000* kHz
> Bandwidth: *1* kHz RSRP0: *-95* dBm
> RSRP1: *-94* dBm RSRQ: *-8* dB
> CINR0: *23* dB CINR1: *26* dB
> SINR0: *23* dB SINR1: *26* dB
> TX Power: *1* dBm PCI: *373*
> Cell ID: *95490*
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>
> On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -
> they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,
> ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless
> of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so
> you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power
> Point slides show... the math isn't there.
>
> I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their
> presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact
> that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours
> a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those
> charts though.
>
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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

2016-08-05 Thread J Portman

We experienced these random disconnects as well.

Went to the customer site, hooked into the UE and waited (a few hours) and lo 
and behold, there was another Telrad operator transmitting into our area with a 
very weak signal.

You could watch the UE attempting to connect to the other operators equipment. 
Don't know why and Telrad never had a believable explanation.

Telrad UE will randomly attempt to migrate to any available BTS unless you are 
using manual PLMN selection or manual frequency selection.

We have mitigated this by using manual PLMN selection or manual frequency 
selection at the UE. There is a special version of the firmware that allows 
this.

Worse yet, the competition BTS was at -122 to -125db and our signal was at -95. 
Drove us nuts.

I filed several reports of this with Telrad and eventually got a firmware that 
allowed us to lock the UE to our network.

End of those problems.

Latest 6.6 release is the most stable of all.

YMMV

JP

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 11:22:35 -0400, Ian Fraser wrote
> IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONEsector = 9.3 
> K in revenue per month from ONE sector on onetower" and one of the teaser 
> emails had numbers somethingsimilar to that some folks may have bought 
> into that Iguess... blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, I suppose. 
> 
> I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent powerbehind it.  
> Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE'sare a Pain in the ass.  
> Here's one of them.  This is 8.3Km.Perfect LOS; clear on F3 from end to end.  
> It is the only UE onthis sector.  Dead center of the beam, and it 
> disconnectsrandomly.  Why?
>

 ConnectionTime :  3 Hours 46 Minutes 25 Seconds

> LTEInformation

 State:  Attached  
>  
> 
 DLFrequency:  3655000 kHz  ULFrequency:  3655000 kHz 
 Bandwidth:  1 kHz  RSRP0:  -95 dBm 
 RSRP1:  -94 dBm  RSRQ:  -8 dB 
 CINR0:  23 dB  CINR1:  26 dB 
 SINR0:  23 dB  SINR1:  26 dB 
 TXPower:  1 dBm  PCI:  373 
 CellID:  95490

> 
> Ian
> 
> On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffettwrote:
>

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was 
showing 
-
they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being 
stupidly,
ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE 
regardless
of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... 
so
you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the 
Power
Point slides show... the math isn't 
there.
I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their

presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact

that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours

a day. I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those

charts 
though.

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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE



Interesting Excuse... How does it explain these ?


Connection Time :   _10_Hours_29_Minutes_53_Seconds

LTE Information
State:  _Attached_  

DL Frequency:   _3665000_kHzUL Frequency:   _3665000_kHz
Bandwidth:  _1_kHz  RSRP0:  _-85_dBm
RSRP1:  _-85_dBmRSRQ:   _-8_dB
CINR0:  _28_dB  CINR1:  _29_dB
SINR0:  _28_dB  SINR1:  _29_dB
TX Power:   _0_dBm  PCI:_1_
Cell ID:_92929_

Connection Time :   _29_Minutes_17_Seconds

LTE Information
State:  _Attached_  

DL Frequency:   _369_kHzUL Frequency:   _369_kHz
Bandwidth:  _1_kHz  RSRP0:  _-102_dBm
RSRP1:  _-100_dBm   RSRQ:   _-8_dB
CINR0:  _19_dB  CINR1:  _20_dB
SINR0:  _20_dB  SINR1:  _20_dB
TX Power:   _23_dBm PCI:_1_


Connection Time :   _8_Hours_0_Minutes_48_Seconds

LTE Information
State:  _Attached_  

DL Frequency:   _3665000_kHzUL Frequency:   _3665000_kHz
Bandwidth:  _1_kHz  RSRP0:  _-102_dBm
RSRP1:  _-100_dBm   RSRQ:   _-8_dB
CINR0:  _19_dB  CINR1:  _20_dB
SINR0:  _19_dB  SINR1:  _20_dB
TX Power:   _17_dBm PCI:_1_
Cell ID:_92929_


On 04/08/2016 4:40 PM, Shayne Lebrun wrote:


It may or may not be odd, but it may be a reason why the unit is 
disconnecting.


*From:*telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] *On 
Behalf Of *Adam Moffett

*Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:28 PM
*To:* telrad@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

Is it odd to have different interference on two different polarities?

Why are your CINRs off so much?  CINR0 is 23, CINR1 is 26, which
means that of the two antennas in the same UE, one is seeing half
the signal of the other one.  Telrad says that a 3db difference is
bad, and a more than 3db swing is horrible.

*From:*telrad-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org>
[mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian Fraser
*Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:23 AM
*To:* telrad@wispa.org <mailto:telrad@wispa.org>
    *Subject:* Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE
sector = 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one
tower" and one of the teaser emails had numbers something
similar to that some folks may have bought into that I
guess... blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, I suppose.

I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power
behind it.  Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's
are a Pain in the ass.  Here's one of them.  This is 8.3Km.
Perfect LOS; clear on F3 from end to end.  It is the only UE on
this sector.  Dead center of the beam, and it disconnects
randomly.  Why?

Connection Time :



_3_Hours_46_Minutes_25_Seconds

*LTE Information*

State:



_Attached_




DL Frequency:



_3655000_kHz



UL Frequency:



_3655000_kHz

Bandwidth:



_1_kHz



RSRP0:



_-95_dBm

RSRP1:



_-94_dBm



RSRQ:



_-8_dB

CINR0:



_23_dB



CINR1:



_26_dB

SINR0:



_23_dB



SINR1:



_26_dB

TX Power:



_1_dBm



PCI:



_373_

Cell ID:



_95490_




Ian



On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

  


I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -

they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being 
stupidly,

ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE 
regardless

of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my 
company... so

you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the 
Power

Point slides show... the math isn't there.

  


I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their

presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact

that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours

a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those

charts though.

  

  


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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

2016-08-04 Thread Shayne Lebrun

It may or may not be odd, but it may be a reason why the unit is
disconnecting.

From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:28 PM
To: telrad@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

Is it odd to have different interference on two different polarities?

Why are your CINRs off so much?  CINR0 is 23, CINR1 is 26, which means that
of the two antennas in the same UE, one is seeing half the signal of the
other one.  Telrad says that a 3db difference is bad, and a more than 3db
swing is horrible.

From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Ian Fraser
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:23 AM
To: telrad@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE sector =
9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one tower" and one of the
teaser emails had numbers something similar to that some folks may have
bought into that I guess... blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, I
suppose. 

I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power behind it.
Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's are a Pain in the ass.
Here's one of them.  This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear on F3 from end to
end.  It is the only UE on this sector.  Dead center of the beam, and it
disconnects randomly.  Why?

Connection Time :

3 Hours 46 Minutes 25 Seconds

LTE Information

State:

Attached

DL Frequency:

3655000 kHz

UL Frequency:

3655000 kHz

Bandwidth:

1 kHz

RSRP0:

-95 dBm

RSRP1:

-94 dBm

RSRQ:

-8 dB

CINR0:

23 dB

CINR1:

26 dB

SINR0:

23 dB

SINR1:

26 dB

TX Power:

1 dBm

PCI:

373

Cell ID:

95490

Ian

On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -
they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,
ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless
of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so
you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power
Point slides show... the math isn't there.

I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their 
presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact 
that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours 
a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those 
charts though.

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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE


Don't know  Same UE right now.


Connection Time :   _4_Hours_56_Minutes_2_Seconds

LTE Information
State:  _Attached_  

DL Frequency:   _3655000_kHzUL Frequency:   _3655000_kHz
Bandwidth:  _1_kHz  RSRP0:  _-91_dBm
RSRP1:  _-90_dBmRSRQ:   _-8_dB
CINR0:  _27_dB  CINR1:  _28_dB
SINR0:  _27_dB  SINR1:  _28_dB
TX Power:   _5_dBm  PCI:_373_
Cell ID:



On 04/08/2016 12:04 PM, Shayne Lebrun wrote:


Why are your CINRs off so much?  CINR0 is 23, CINR1 is 26, which means 
that of the two antennas in the same UE, one is seeing half the signal 
of the other one.  Telrad says that a 3db difference is bad, and a 
more than 3db swing is horrible.


*From:*telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] *On 
Behalf Of *Ian Fraser

*Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:23 AM
*To:* telrad@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE 
sector = 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one tower" 
and one of the teaser emails had numbers something similar to that 
some folks may have bought into that I guess... blindly without doing 
the math ? Maybe, I suppose.


I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power behind 
it.  Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's are a Pain 
in the ass.  Here's one of them.  This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear on 
F3 from end to end.  It is the only UE on this sector.  Dead center of 
the beam, and it disconnects randomly.  Why?


Connection Time :



_3_Hours_46_Minutes_25_Seconds

*LTE Information*

State:



_Attached_




DL Frequency:



_3655000_kHz



UL Frequency:



_3655000_kHz

Bandwidth:



_1_kHz



RSRP0:



_-95_dBm

RSRP1:



_-94_dBm



RSRQ:



_-8_dB

CINR0:



_23_dB



CINR1:



_26_dB

SINR0:



_23_dB



SINR1:



_26_dB

TX Power:



_1_dBm



PCI:



_373_

Cell ID:



_95490_




Ian


On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -

they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,

ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless

of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so

you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power

Point slides show... the math isn't there.

I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their

presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact

that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours

a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those

charts though.

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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE


Is it odd to have different interference on two different polarities?

Why are your CINRs off so much?  CINR0 is 23, CINR1 is 26, which means 
that of the two antennas in the same UE, one is seeing half the signal 
of the other one.  Telrad says that a 3db difference is bad, and a 
more than 3db swing is horrible.


*From:*telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] *On 
Behalf Of *Ian Fraser

*Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:23 AM
*To:* telrad@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE 
sector = 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one tower" 
and one of the teaser emails had numbers something similar to that 
some folks may have bought into that I guess... blindly without doing 
the math ? Maybe, I suppose.


I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power behind 
it.  Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's are a Pain 
in the ass.  Here's one of them.  This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear on 
F3 from end to end.  It is the only UE on this sector.  Dead center of 
the beam, and it disconnects randomly.  Why?


Connection Time :



_3_Hours_46_Minutes_25_Seconds

*LTE Information*

State:



_Attached_




DL Frequency:



_3655000_kHz



UL Frequency:



_3655000_kHz

Bandwidth:



_1_kHz



RSRP0:



_-95_dBm

RSRP1:



_-94_dBm



RSRQ:



_-8_dB

CINR0:



_23_dB



CINR1:



_26_dB

SINR0:



_23_dB



SINR1:



_26_dB

TX Power:



_1_dBm



PCI:



_373_

Cell ID:



_95490_




Ian


On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -

they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,

ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless

of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so

you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power

Point slides show... the math isn't there.

I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their

presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact

that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours

a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those

charts though.

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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

2016-08-04 Thread Shayne Lebrun

Why are your CINRs off so much?  CINR0 is 23, CINR1 is 26, which means that
of the two antennas in the same UE, one is seeing half the signal of the
other one.  Telrad says that a 3db difference is bad, and a more than 3db
swing is horrible.

 

From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Ian Fraser
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:23 AM
To: telrad@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

 

 

IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE sector =
9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one tower" and one of the
teaser emails had numbers something similar to that some folks may have
bought into that I guess... blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, I
suppose. 

I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power behind it.
Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's are a Pain in the ass.
Here's one of them.  This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear on F3 from end to
end.  It is the only UE on this sector.  Dead center of the beam, and it
disconnects randomly.  Why?



Connection Time :

3 Hours 46 Minutes 25 Seconds


LTE Information


State:

Attached



DL Frequency:

3655000 kHz

UL Frequency:

3655000 kHz


Bandwidth:

1 kHz

RSRP0:

-95 dBm


RSRP1:

-94 dBm

RSRQ:

-8 dB


CINR0:

23 dB

CINR1:

26 dB


SINR0:

23 dB

SINR1:

26 dB


TX Power:

1 dBm

PCI:

373


Cell ID:

95490



 

 

Ian




On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

 

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -
they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,
ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless
of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so
you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power
Point slides show... the math isn't there.

 
I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their 
presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact 
that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours 
a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those 
charts though.
 
 
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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

2016-08-04 Thread Gino Villarini

Once the 3.5 ghs spectrum beceomes available, the choice of vendors is expected 
to expand

From: mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org>> on behalf of 
Ian Fraser mailto:ian_fra...@gozoom.ca>>
Reply-To: "telrad@wispa.org<mailto:telrad@wispa.org>" 
mailto:telrad@wispa.org>>
Date: Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 11:22 AM
To: "telrad@wispa.org<mailto:telrad@wispa.org>" 
mailto:telrad@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE sector = 9.3 K 
in revenue per month from ONE sector on one tower" and one of the teaser 
emails had numbers something similar to that some folks may have bought 
into that I guess... blindly without doing the math ? Maybe, I suppose.

I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power behind it.  Power 
seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's are a Pain in the ass.  Here's 
one of them.  This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear on F3 from end to end.  It is 
the only UE on this sector.  Dead center of the beam, and it disconnects 
randomly.  Why?

Connection Time :   3 Hours 46 Minutes 25 Seconds

LTE Information
State:  Attached

DL Frequency:   3655000 kHz UL Frequency:   3655000 kHz
Bandwidth:  1 kHz   RSRP0:  -95 dBm
RSRP1:  -94 dBm RSRQ:   -8 dB
CINR0:  23 dB   CINR1:  26 dB
SINR0:  23 dB   SINR1:  26 dB
TX Power:   1 dBm   PCI:373
Cell ID:95490

Ian

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On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -
they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,
ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless
of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so
you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power
Point slides show... the math isn't there.

I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their
presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact
that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours
a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those
charts though.

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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE



IMHO The point was - "look 186 customers at $50 per month on ONE sector 
= 9.3 K in revenue per month from ONE sector on one tower" and one 
of the teaser emails had numbers something similar to that some 
folks may have bought into that I guess... blindly without doing the 
math ? Maybe, I suppose.


I wanted a 3.65 product that worked and had some decent power behind 
it.  Power seems to be there but these disconnecting UE's are a Pain in 
the ass.  Here's one of them.  This is 8.3Km. Perfect LOS; clear on F3 
from end to end.  It is the only UE on this sector.  Dead center of the 
beam, and it disconnects randomly.  Why?


Connection Time :   _3_Hours_46_Minutes_25_Seconds

LTE Information
State:  _Attached_  

DL Frequency:   _3655000_kHzUL Frequency:   _3655000_kHz
Bandwidth:  _1_kHz  RSRP0:  _-95_dBm
RSRP1:  _-94_dBmRSRQ:   _-8_dB
CINR0:  _23_dB  CINR1:  _26_dB
SINR0:  _23_dB  SINR1:  _26_dB
TX Power:   _1_dBm  PCI:_373_
Cell ID:_95490_



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On 04/08/2016 11:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -
they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,
ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless
of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so
you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power
Point slides show... the math isn't there.

I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their
presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact
that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours
a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those
charts though.


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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE


> I know the company that the original Holly Grail email was showing -
> they pretty much encompass me and their reputation for being stupidly,
> ridiculously, atrociously over subbed, and installing ANYONE regardless
> of the signal, is the best thing that ever happened to my company... so
> you're not going to serve 186 UE's at 10 to 25Mbps each like the Power
> Point slides show... the math isn't there.

I remember those slides.I kept my mouth shut while they did their 
presentation, but I commented to my colleagues afterwards about the fact 
that their graph showed the BS at 100% airtime utilization for 16 hours 
a day.  I don't remember what they were trying to demonstrate with those 
charts though.


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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE


> Cambium works.  Better than LTE, right now.
>
> Telrad doesn't.  We have well over 1000 UEs on Telrad at this point and
> some base stations over 50 connections.

We're at about the same scale, but it's all Wimax.  I think it's at 
least as much of a giant mess as what you're describing, but I don't 
want to rehash the details.  I've been looking foward to an LTE upgrade 
partly on the assumption that since they're putting more effort into 
development there that we would see fewer issues, and also on the belief 
that there would be better NLOS performance.

Some of you are scaring me.

> In 13 years of using Cambium & Motorola gear I think we had to call tech
> support about three times... and RMA maybe 20 units, total...

I had about the same experience.  It just friggin worked.  The once or 
twice when I did need them, they were there.

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> .  We are completely dumping Ubiquiti and using Cambium where we can
> and everything else Telrad!

Why "using Cambium where we can"?

IMHO because it's cheaper and so far I've found the Tower <> CPE 
connections to be more stable And my cheap old 2.4 and 5.8 Mikrotik 
stuff was better still,  even if the theoretical bits per Hz is lower - 
that doesn't matter worth a  when a 'perfect' Customer suddenly 
drops connection 5 or 10 times in an hour at prime time.

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On 04/08/2016 10:41 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> On 8/3/2016 7:06 PM, Justin Davis wrote:
>> Our connections all increased on average by 4 db and we have seen some
>> increase as much as 9 db shooting through thick pine tree forests at
>> about 3 miles.
> Are these improvements from switching to 4x4 or from switching to LTE
> from wimax?
>
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On 8/3/2016 7:06 PM, Justin Davis wrote:
> Our connections all increased on average by 4 db and we have seen some 
> increase as much as 9 db shooting through thick pine tree forests at 
> about 3 miles.
Are these improvements from switching to 4x4 or from switching to LTE 
from wimax?

> .  We are completely dumping Ubiquiti and using Cambium where we can 
> and everything else Telrad!
Why "using Cambium where we can"?


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2016-08-04 Thread Steve Cole

On 8/3/2016 7:06 PM, Justin Davis wrote:
> Our connections all increased on average by 4 db and we have seen some 
> increase as much as 9 db shooting through thick pine tree forests at 
> about 3 miles.  We have 10 ENB's online servicing around 400 UE's and 
> have not seen a single issue.  We also have 2 centralized EPC's 
> serving two counties and have never had one of them crash. I would 
> check your configs.  All of our EPC's have a minimum of 1.5 Gbps of 
> bandwidth available with one that has a 10 Gbps uplink.  All tower 
> locations are fed with 2+0 licensed backhauls.  I would recommend 
> Telrad in a heart beat over all of the other crap out there.  We are 
> completely dumping Ubiquiti and using Cambium where we can and 
> everything else Telrad!

Cambium works.  Better than LTE, right now.

Telrad doesn't.  We have well over 1000 UEs on Telrad at this point and 
some base stations over 50 connections.  Not only do our EPCs crash but 
they also reboot on their own.  Telrad says they have found the issue 
and it is due to Layer2 issues which they will fix - but I am not 
holding my breath, we have  had troubles with them from day 1 and the 
redundancy they sold us on does not work.

I don't know why you'd assume I/we are just dumb newbies at this, we 
have been at wireless since 2004 and at Internet in general since 1993, 
which makes me a pioneer in the industry.  Not only have we been over 
the configs (simplicity is best), but Telrad's engineers including Nick 
and Guy have been over them.  The issue is not a misconfiguration, the 
issue is - and has been time and time again - software bugs.

Good for you that you can do big licensed backhauls, here in Canada we 
are paying through the nose for licenses.  Our biggest backhaul is 
costing us around $50K a year just for licensing.  Industry Canada has 
made it very prohibitive to use licensed backhauls, if we could it would 
be the only thing we'd use.  As it is, we have to use them only on our 
main distribution towers.

While I'm complaining I might as well also say that we have had a fairly 
huge percentage (double digits) of UEs that do not work right out of the 
box.  One imagines that the RMA costs are massive.  We've also had to do 
a number of truck rolls when a WiMax unit fails to swap over to LTE 
because the card, the UE or the UE card reader failed.

In 13 years of using Cambium & Motorola gear I think we had to call tech 
support about three times... and RMA maybe 20 units, total...
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2016-08-04 Thread Justin Davis

Our connections all increased on average by 4 db and we have seen some
increase as much as 9 db shooting through thick pine tree forests at about
3 miles.  We have 10 ENB's online servicing around 400 UE's and have not
seen a single issue.  We also have 2 centralized EPC's serving two counties
and have never had one of them crash. I would check your configs.  All of
our EPC's have a minimum of 1.5 Gbps of bandwidth available with one that
has a 10 Gbps uplink.  All tower locations are fed with 2+0 licensed
backhauls.  I would recommend Telrad in a heart beat over all of the other
crap out there.  We are completely dumping Ubiquiti and using Cambium where
we can and everything else Telrad!

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Steve Cole  wrote:

> On 8/3/2016 1:18 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> Has anybody here made the transition from Wimax on Compact to LTE on
> Compact?  If so, I'm curious if you saw a big difference in NLOS
> connections.  Such as existing connections working better or being able
> to get a connection in new places that didn't work before.  Thanks for any
> input.
>
>
>
> Sadly, the NLOS went down as Telrad has yet to provide us with a working
> 4x4 MIMO (or even turning the second radio on).  In our environment - lots
> of trees etc. it is simply not working as well in LTE.  Additionally,
> Telrad's 7Mhz channels don't work properly - and may be the issue with the
> 4x4 not working, but we are pushed for spectrum in our area.
>
> At this point I am loathe to recommend Telrad gear to anyone, frankly.  In
> WiMax mode it works reasonably but frankly that was all Alvarion, not
> Telrad.  Their EPCs regularly crash and still do not work in failover
> mode.  What a mess this product line is... and they have the balls to ask
> us for a service contract!
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2016-08-04 Thread Steve Cole

On 8/4/2016 9:19 AM, Ian Fraser wrote:
> I think Steve is running at least partly in 3.5 Ghz (?)  I may be wrong.
3.65Ghz.
> and it works.   But My (latest) problem is with UE's that drop and
> reconnect for seemingly no reason.   UE's with 'perfect' numbers just
We are also seeing that.  On top of the things I've mentioned.
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Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

2016-08-04 Thread Shayne Lebrun

Not supported in the compact 3000; you can still enable it, and clients will
still connect, but performance will tank.

 

 

 

From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Bryce Duchcherer
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 10:55 PM
To: telrad@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

 

4X4 was released, but performance is non-existant!

 

Bryce Duchcherer

NETAGO

 

From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 20:26
To: telrad@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Wimax to LTE

 

 

On 8/3/2016 1:18 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Has anybody here made the transition from Wimax on Compact to LTE on
Compact?  If so, I'm curious if you saw a big difference in NLOS
connections.  Such as existing connections working better or being able to
get a connection in new places that didn't work before.  Thanks for any
input.

 

 

Sadly, the NLOS went down as Telrad has yet to provide us with a working 4x4
MIMO (or even turning the second radio on).  In our environment - lots of
trees etc. it is simply not working as well in LTE.  Additionally, Telrad's
7Mhz channels don't work properly - and may be the issue with the 4x4 not
working, but we are pushed for spectrum in our area.

At this point I am loathe to recommend Telrad gear to anyone, frankly.  In
WiMax mode it works reasonably but frankly that was all Alvarion, not
Telrad.  Their EPCs regularly crash and still do not work in failover mode.
What a mess this product line is... and they have the balls to ask us for a
service contract!


I thought 4x4 MIMO came out in the new release that hit Zendesk on 7/14. 

Which EPC are you using?  The 2020?  Do you have the latest software on it?

Sorry for playing 20 questions, but I've been under the impression that
going to LTE was an upgrade.  I assumed people would have differing opinions
on what degree of improvement there was.did not expect anyone to say it
was worse.

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