JD
And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a
witness of God just as surely as God is at
work within him both to will and to accomplish His
pleasure. It is all about God. We can either attach
ourselves
to this reality and inherit life or we can refuse the only
This (the citations below) are Judy's choices oF
Scriptures which elucidate Judy's apprehension of what God has to say about
these matters. UNLESS YOU CLAIM A LEADING OF THE SPIRIT ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR
FELLOW BELIEVERS (do you?) THEN, IT WILL ALWAYS BE THUS.
This response is to your saying
Just one time, please. Will you say back to me what
YOU BELIEVE MY MEANING TO BE in what I've just said. Thereafter, tell me that
you agree/disagree and, why?
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From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 16, 2005 06:36
- Original Message -
From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/15/2005 8:39:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
You have turned the "flapping of the gums" into a vocation, Kevin. This is not completely true, however, if you still have that one
Well Lance, the only alternative I see is to use the
verses in Romans that you like and interpret them to fit your
extra Biblical doctrine - then cut the rest out.
Facts are "You must be born again" to inherit God's Kingdom.
If you don't think that what I wrote is God's Word then
you will
I was reading in Romans 12, the last
phrase of verse ten says "honor one another, preferring one another" The
world teaches
the exact opposite, but if we follow this guideline, we
willhavepeace and calm. Paul also writes
about the same
thing in Phillipians 2:3 So thanks Dean for your
OR JUDY...YOU WILL!! When that which you say that
God means, through always and only selecting (YOUR choices)citations
appropo to the issue at hand) and that which God means are univocal (of one
meaning) then, each of us (yes, including me) will simply reply AMEN
JUDY/GOD!l
I, and I trust
You are saying that the scriptures I cite below reflect
my apprehension of what God says rather than His and that if
I claim to know the mind of God on this matter then I
am claiming something that is above and beyond others on
TT who you call my "fellow believers"
Of course I disagree with
Close but, no cigar, Are you claiming, through your
citations pertaining to whatever issue is being discussed. to ALWAYS know the
mind of God on EVERY matter?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
It is sooo nice to see that the two of you are finally in agreement.
Judy Taylor wrote:
JD
And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation
as a witness of God just as surely as God is at
work
Hi Terry,
where would you get that idea?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:51:49 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
It is sooo nice to see that the two of you are finally in
agreement.Judy
Taylor wrote:
It is quite obvious, Judy. Never on TT before have two people been so
compatible. Must be the Qwanza, xmas, winter break spirit. :)
Judy Taylor wrote:
Hi Terry,
where would you get that idea?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:51:49 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JD
And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at
work within him both to will and to accomplish His pleasure. It is all about God. We can
Judy -- regarding being born again: do you think this is something tht happens to a person from outside the person? Or, is new birth the experience we have when
our person is aligned with the God within?
jd
-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Judy, if Terry is somewhat serious, this is my point as well. I see nothing in your post that challenges anything I said.
When I write something like that, it is me thinking out loud, really !! I am reading scripture, looking up stuff, going over and over my post -- LETTING GOD WORK IN ME as I
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:20:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation
as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to
will and to accomplish His pleasure. It is all about
God. We can either attach
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:29:34 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy -- regarding being born again: do you think this is
something tht happens to a person from outside the person? Or, is new
birth the experience we have when our person is aligned with the God
within? jd
There is
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:46:01 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, if Terry is somewhat serious, this is my point as well.
I see nothing in your post that challenges anything I said.
Big IF JD. I don't read Terri's comment in a
positiveway, I think he is addressing something
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:20:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:20:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:46:01 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, if Terry is somewhat serious, this is my point as well.
I see nothing in your post that challenges anything I said.
Big IF JD. I don't
whileJC the
shepard-kinginformsus'my sheep hear my voice' the bible
informs of him, informsthe sheep going only to the Father, goingonly
through him
your idea of one
way? no such thing: arrogantly misrepresenting
JC,youpresenttwo antithetical 'ways', below--like oil and
water, another
Blainerb: There are none so blind as he who will
not see. Ad libbing, flapping the gums, rationalizing the truth,
gainsaying, etc., sets up a snow storm intended to do but one
thing--deceive.Whenthat fails, one resorts to being
unreasonable--it always
comes down to stubborn, obstinate
Blainerb: Kevin, you quoted the passage in the DC where the doctrine of the garden
is taught. Now you are asking where it was taught? It all began in the garden. He suffered there , "even unto
death." Did you miss that part or something?
In a message dated 12/15/2005 5:45:54 P.M. Mountain
Don't have any idea why this thing is changing colors on me.
Terry
Any way.Let me suggest
that at some point in everyone's life, God reveals Himself and offers
salvation to every individual. I say that because God is not willing
that any be lost, and if it is not His
Blainerb: Here's your quote,
Kevin. This is where the doctrine of the garden is
taught. But it is also
taught in the Bible. Luke 22:41-44; Mark 14:33-36; Matt 26:
37-39
In a message dated 12/15/2005 5:44:10 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DC 19:15-19
Therefore
Blaine, please don't stir up the pot. You contribute nothing with your
comments. Also, you say below, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:, but you have
not included anything I wrote! You must have removed the part I wrote
without removing the attribution. I doubt it was intentional, but please be
Kevin, we still need a URL on the star with 666--you were obviously
suggesting it is from a Mormon building---I have not been able to find it in any
way associated with any building built or owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints.
Blainerb
In a message dated 12/16/2005 12:26:25 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine,
please don't stir up the pot. You contribute nothing with your
comments. Also, you say below, "[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:", but
you have not included anything I wrote! You must have
IS FORTHCOMING!!??
Y'all are pleased to engage on minutiae but on the big issues y'all 'take a
pass'? WHY?
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 16, 2005 14:37
Subject: [TruthTalk] URL on beat up star
with
In a message dated 12/16/2005 10:28:20 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Home from Iraq--temporarily
One of Minnesota's Finest: Minnesota's LTC Joe Repya volunteered to return
to active duty for service in Iraq at age 59. Joe's previous service includes
In a message dated 12/16/2005 12:45:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
IS FORTHCOMING!!??
Y'all are pleased to engage on minutiae but on the big issues y'all 'take
a pass'? WHY?
Blainerb: I consider a post that suggests Mormons adhere to Satanism
to be a
In a message dated 12/15/2005 4:38:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lance Muir wrote:
Perry, Dean, Kevin et al certainly GIVE offence vis a
vis Mormonism. Do you, the Mormon contingent on TT, take offence at what's
said by them?
In a message dated 12/14/2005 5:41:38 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why don't the moderator(s) (plural?) set up some sort of a
code of conduct with respect to our mutual engagement? IMO, there exists a
double standard with respect to them and us. We, or so it
The last private e-mail I got from Dave was when I was off-Forum. I
have sent him no such e-mails since, either. Kevin is, as usual, just
seeing his own beam in our eyes. :)
Blainerb
In a message dated 12/14/2005 5:24:09 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cd: It
Forgiveness is available because of the atoning sacrifice of the Great Jehovah. Forgiveness is available because Christ the Lord sweat great drops of blood in Gethsemane as he bore the incalculable weight of the sins of all who ever had or ever would repent. Forgiveness is available because "God
isn't it just to the left of this? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, we still need a URL on the star with 666--you were obviously suggesting it is from a Mormon building---I have not been able to find it in any way associated with any building built or owned by the Church of Jesus
Let me take a 'shot' at it (the SATANISM THINGY)
If a group adheres to a theology wherein 1. their god was a man who became
a god who begat children (spiritually) who subsequently inhabited that god's
planet and rebelled against their god partly through the temptation of one of
their god's
Blainerb: It is
common knowledge that the morning star is Venus. Thus it is an obvious
symbol of Jesus Christ, as it represents the death, burial and resurrection
of our Lord as it alternates between shining as the evening star and the
morning star. As either, it is
In a message dated 12/15/2005 8:12:57 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Please tell us your
view of resting on the Saturday Sabbath. I hesitate to bring up the
subject because of such stinking attitudes from some on TT.
iz
Blainerb: I think the Saturday Sabbath
Sinceyou have been asked to stop stirring the pot And some subjects have been identified as OFF LIMITS I have declined to comment But since you guys can not leave it aloneI was refering to your PRIVATE email off list to a member of this list stating you were "waiting with 'bated breath for
Blaine,
Please try to separate posts I make that are from my own personal
viewpoint, and statements I make as moderator. You seem to want to mix the
two. If you want to claim that as the moderator I am biased, then please
refer only to items I post as the moderator.
Perry
From: [EMAIL
Blaine, if you find unbecoming behavior when I have been responding as the
moderator, point it out. However, when not posting as a moderator, I reserve
the right to engage in what Lance might consider conduct unbecoming (the
same rights as any other TT'r).
If you think that the moderator
In a message dated 12/14/2005 5:00:06 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cd: The why don't Mormons live by Jesus's words instead of
Smith's words.
Blainerb: . Smith lived and died for his testimony of Jesus
Christ, whom he saw and spoke with on several occasions.
I looked, but did not see anything denigrating or mocking Christians in
either site, Dean? Could you quote what you are getting at?
Blainerb
In a message dated 12/14/2005 4:59:53 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.hillcumorah.org/Pageant/
OK, I see your point. I sometimes feel that way about being a
teacher. Others may do what they wish, but teachers are expected to be
perfect, right? I was in a supermarket one day, and a little girl from the
school Itaught in told her mom she had just seen me buying stuff--"playing
human,"
In a message dated 12/16/2005 2:03:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sinceyou have been asked to stop stirring the pot
And some subjects have been identified as OFF LIMITS
I have declined to comment
But since you guys can not leave it alone
I was refering
You are entitled to your opinion, Lance, however, I do not see that such
Mormon beliefs as you have outlined detract from traditional Christianity--they
do go beyond it, but I see no reason this should be an arrow in the side of
Christians who are trying to live Christianity as they
Were you or were you not attempting to suggest Mormons
believed in/practiced Satanism
by posting that photo of the 5-sided star with 666
embedded in it, along with other valid photos of stars on Mormon
buildings? Just answer "yes" or "no."
Blainerb
In a message dated 12/16/2005 1:37:07
In a message dated 12/16/2005 1:37:07 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Go back and reread the posts
I did not say Mormons are
SatanistsI asked a simple question "why do you
have satanic symbols on your building?"
Blainerb: The answer is and always has
I guess, it might have been? So? But it was also with photos of
stars on the Nauvoo and SL temples. So, which were you saying it was
associated with? Severalposted questions asking if it was actually
in a Mormon temple, as if it was very critical. If it was not in or on a
Mormon building,
Hmm, good points, Kevin, but I doubt there is really a discrepancy or
contradiction, otherwise how are you going to explain the agony of
Gethsemene? What he suffered on the cross was more physical, which lead to
his death--but there obviously was the agony of Gethsemene, wherein he suffered
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 5:24:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator comment **
In a message dated 12/16/2005 2:03:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sinceyou have been asked to stop stirring the
Neither is the Devil lazy--being full of "works" does not always tell us
much. :)
Blainerb
In a message dated 12/16/2005 5:26:39 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:49:11 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
cd: Kevin is not a
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:03:43 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter
1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work
within him both to will and to accomplish His pleasure. It
is all about God. We can either attach
I'm not talking about any such nonsense G. - The
dualism is all in your own head along with all the other isms.
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:00:45 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
whileJC the
shepard-kinginformsus'my sheep hear my voice' the bible
informs of him, informsthe sheep going
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 3:10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Offence given offence taken - MORMONS??
In a message dated 12/15/2005 4:38:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lance Muir wrote:
Perry,
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 4:13:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
I looked, but did not see anything denigrating or mocking Christians in either site, Dean? Could you quote what you are getting at?
Blainerb
cd:Again I don't
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 4:08:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
In a message dated 12/14/2005 5:00:06 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cd: The why don't Mormons live by Jesus's words instead of Smith's
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 3:52:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
In a message dated 12/15/2005 8:12:57 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Please tell us your view of resting on the Saturday
- Original Message -
From: Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 7:31:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud
I'm not talking about any such nonsense G. - The dualism is all in your own head along with all the
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 6:25:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
Neither is the Devil lazy--being full of "works" does not always tell us much. :)
Blainerb
cd: The Devil don't preach Jesus Christ as the only Savior for
- Original Message -
From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 6:17:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] sweat
Hmm, good points, Kevin, but I doubt there is really a discrepancy or contradiction, otherwise how are you going to explain the agony of Gethsemene? What he
I have a Christian brother who was asking me what I thought about a book
called Time Has An End by Harold Camping. I have never heard of the
author or the book. Can anyone offer an opinion?
Terry
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
Romans 14:4-6 Who are you to judge another man's servant? To
his own master he stands or
falls..One person
esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let
each be fully convinced in his own mind.
You seem to be convinced, Iz,
How about to fulfill prophecy? Is that a good reason?
Blainer wrote
I am not sure why dying had to take place on the cross,
eventually, unless it has something to do with overcoming death--which
had to be done in order to overcome the effects of Adam's
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:03:43 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will and
A special message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin...
Lance, you need to stop mocking people who
believe the plain unvarnished scriptures, or one day you will regret it before
the Lord. Humble yourself now, or you will be humbled later. Just for your
best, iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
ShieldsFamily wrote:
A
special message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin...
So what is the message?
Can you print the entire context, please? Blainerb From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 1:00 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Izzy's sex lifeHi Izzy, I was looking through some of my old e-mails and came upon one with the above subject
So a Satanist is on vacation in Utah he decides to take a tour of the temple. What do you think his thoughts would be when he sees his symbol for his god on your buildings?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 12/16/2005 1:37:07 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Terry, just Google his name; there's plenty. iz
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:55 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] Time has an end
I have a Christian brother who
"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect." Notice it does not say become perfect it says BE - Present TENSE How are you doing?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are entitled to your opinion, Lance, however, I do not see that such Mormon beliefs as you have
Kevin, Blaine this is a banned thread...please move on.
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:53:48 -0800 (PST)
Can you print the entire context,
Blaine, your question reveals
why you dont understand Christian reverence for the Cross. Jesus
had to die on the cross as the payment for our sins. He was the innocent,
perfect sacrificial Passover lamb, slain for the sins of the world. Just
as the Jews, who were slaves to Pharaoh in
maybe current
conservativeculture's root level dualistic tendencyalters the word
'word' in Jamesto 'Word'--apparently your dualism requires it, too,
butitain't written that way, M'am, e.g.,:
James 1:21(King James Version)
..receive with meekness the engrafted
word..
your innovative
myth (that's a
dangerous platitude whilethere is division in your own theology
fromyour own mind--your two manufactured approaches to salvation joined at
the hip todaycommunicate divergent theories
of'Christ')
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:34:50 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
WHY I FIGHT
Readers of my columns which often
excoriate secularizing organizations, may of them Jewish, frequently ask me,
Lapin, why do you fight? My answer is always the same. I fight
to preserve an America
comprising millions of diverse citizens all with their own beliefs yet who
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:49:37 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ithink I agree with
this.
I hope you do because it is Jesus
who said "I am the Way, the Truth the Life, no man comes to
Gary do you ever get weary from all this
psychobabble?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:14:44 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
myth (that's a
dangerous platitude whilethere is division in your own theology
fromyour own mind--your two manufactured approaches to salvation joined
at the hip
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