Until that happens, no user or developer is going to be happy with
OAuth in a desktop or mobile application. Sorry to be blunt, but the
user experience sucks when you're using OAuth outside the confines of
a web browser.
Not necessarily.
A UIWebView (in an iPhone app) can provide a good user
Am I reading this right? ... The php warning message implies that your
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unlikely to me that this is a valid filename, ignoring the fact that
the user with ID 4667006333 also does not
As a a software and Web site user, I consider my desktop apps mine
and Web sites theirs. I am sure that this is the mindset of most
people. We visit Web sites, and we give information to them. Yes,
they do things for us in return. Even when providing SaaS, I am still
on their site. On the other
I really find it difficult to understand documentation how to code a
TWITTER-API in perl. But with a bit start-help, I think I'll be able
to proceed.
Can somebody help me with a sample PERL-code:
From within a PERL script ( which has two variables filled with
strings. names of those VARS are
On Oct 12, 11:44 pm, Josh Roesslein jroessl...@gmail.com wrote:
Providing an API endpoint for basic auth credential exchange for a
token would be a nice solution, but I can see it
getting abused. An attacker could bombard this endpoint trying to
guess an account's password. Protection can be
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On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:45
Twitter has a list of libraries that should help
http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Libraries#Perl
Usually when I want to start working with an api in perl I check cpan
our first
http://search.cpan.org/search?query=twittermode=all
Most libraries in cpan will have some example code to get you going.
On
They can still check for duplicate tweets, and can still suspend accounts
violating the TOS, regardless of client.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 23:23, PJB pjbmancun...@gmail.com wrote:
I worried about this. Doesn't Twitter realize this will just shift
things to desktop apps which they have less
The Twitter API already rejects duplicate tweets. It appears that not
everyone in Twitter is aware of this fact.
Ryan, can you please communicate that to your fellow Twitter
employees?
Dewald
On Oct 13, 2:23 am, PJB pjbmancun...@gmail.com wrote:
I worried about this. Doesn't Twitter realize
Isn't it the case they reject duplicate Tweets if you try to post the
same thing twice consecutively? I've not seen them reject duplicate
Tweets if there is intervening posts.
Personally I think this is a really bad move on Twitter's part.
Because of the streaming model of Twitter itself and
To everyone who's suggesting to embed a web view in the desktop or
mobile app, please go read this:
http://fireeagle.yahoo.net/developer/documentation/
oauth_best_practice
Specifically, ... we insist that you must not use embedded rendering
controls to present the OAuth process
Phishing
The problem is that on mobile platforms is extremely easy to simulate
a regular browser to the point a user cannot tell the difference.
Training users to expect security because it looks like a browser is
even worse than telling them to give their passwords to native apps
but be careful as to
Hi,
I requested to be whitelisted on October 9th, which is less than a
week I know. Unfortunately, my project is timely and requires
receiving a larger amount of data as soon as possible.
I saw that other people had trouble with being whitelisted so I was
wondering the time that it usually
Isn't it the case they reject duplicate Tweets if you try to post the
same thing twice consecutively? I've not seen them reject duplicate
Tweets if there is intervening posts.
Correct.
Personally I think this is a really bad move on Twitter's part.
Because of the streaming model of
If you are looking to do something basic like that, then curl works
well. As a perl script:
#!/usr/bin/perl
my $VAR1=hello;
my $VAR2=bye bye;
my $response=`curl --basic --user test:water --data status=\aHello
world $VAR1 $VAR2. This is my first test tweet automatically posted from
a perl
It can take up to a week. Unfortunately, everyone's project is timely
and wants more data as soon as possible :(
We're working through the backlog.
-Chad
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Kyle B kylebarn...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I requested to be whitelisted on October 9th, which is less
I see @ mention abusers as a different breed because for the most part
their Tweets are not technically duplicates. They are complete
pollution for sure and harder for an individual user to stop
preemptively. At least if someone is annoyed with recurring or
duplicate tweets they can simply
As I mentioned yesterday, phishing, keystroke logging are some of the
attacks that a malicious app can use with OAuth.
With these attacks, a malicious app can get the password.
Of course, in the case of basic auth, every app (malicious or good)
will always get the password.
However, as I also
My application is no longer able to Authorize Twitter accounts, even
though I was able too on october 9th. I am assuming it is because of
this as well, so take from that what you will.
On Oct 12, 7:47 pm, eclipsed4utoo ryanalford...@gmail.com wrote:
Are people still having issues posting
I got blank page on submission on both IE8 and FF3.5 not sure why?
On Oct 13, 11:37 pm, Chad Etzel c...@twitter.com wrote:
It can take up to a week. Unfortunately, everyone's project is timely
and wants more data as soon as possible :(
We're working through the backlog.
-Chad
On Tue, Oct
Hi.
I try to request to be on a white-list
http://twitter.com/help/request_whitelisting
After submitting, I only get blank page on both FireFox3.5 and IE8
I have done this several times in FireFox3.5 first before I switched
to IE8
Is the submission success?... Or it is an error?
Regards,
And I am still having issues. I still can't post status updates from my
application, even though this worked fine on Sunday night.
Ryan
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM, rivv drachemor...@gmail.com wrote:
My application is no longer able to Authorize Twitter accounts, even
though I was able
Twitter is being incredibly stupid, rash, and short-sighted about
this.
Does ATT write to Microsoft and say, hey, our network is getting a
lot of junk email sent through Microsoft Outlook. We therefore demand
you get rid of the CC and BCC features of that product. Of course
not!
That Twitter
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-Twitter/lib/Net/Twitter.pod
On Oct 13, 3:33 am, apfelmaennchen alexander.grefr...@gmail.com
wrote:
I really find it difficult to understand documentation how to code a
TWITTER-API in perl. But with a bit start-help, I think I'll be able
to proceed.
Can
If the desktop client uses OAuth (which, if and when they deprecate basic
auth, will be all), you bet your ass they can regulate desktop clients. All
they have to do is ban any tweets using the Consumer Secret and Key for that
app (and any subsequent keys said jackass developer attempts to get
the app in question explicitly offered the option of a recurring
tweet which is a violation of the TOS
Hang on a second. Please point me to the Twitter Rules where it
clearly said that a recurring tweet is in violation of the TOS.
Even though my app provided users with the ability to have
If the desktop client uses OAuth (which, if and when they deprecate basic
auth, will be all), you bet your ass they can regulate desktop clients. All
they have to do is ban any tweets using the Consumer Secret and Key for that
app (and any subsequent keys said jackass developer attempts to
I'm not debating that there might have been some confusion. I wasn't
implying that you were irresponsible or malicious when building your app,
and I commend you for taking appropriate measures when contacted by Twitter.
It's now precedent, though, that it is a violation of the TOS, regardless of
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:38 PM, PJB pjbmancun...@gmail.com wrote:
Wrong. Basic Authentication will obviously ALWAYS be an option for
desktop clients, regardless of whether or not it is via API.
Please explain this statement?
-Chad
Furthermore, the app in question explicitly offered the
Wrong. Basic Authentication will obviously ALWAYS be an option for
desktop clients, regardless of whether or not it is via API.
When are you going to turn off Basic Auth?
We would like to deprecate Basic Auth at some point to prevent security
issues but no date has been set for that. We will
On Oct 13, 12:48 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
Wrong. Basic Authentication will obviously ALWAYS be an option for
desktop clients, regardless of whether or not it is via API.
Explain to me where it's obvious that basic auth will ALWAYS be an option
for desktop clients. Furthermore,
Wrong. _Basic Authentication will obviously ALWAYS be an option for
desktop clients, regardless of whether or not it is via API.
Explain to me where it's obvious that basic auth will ALWAYS be an option
for desktop clients. Furthermore, please explain to me what voodoo you
employed
You clearly do not understand the basics of HTTP. Do you think that
Twitter is going to somehow deny Firefox, IE, and other desktop
clients from connecting to Twitter with a simple username and password
only?
Since when do Firefox and IE use the API to communicate with Twitter? Last
time I
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 13:54, PJB pjbmancun...@gmail.com wrote:
Does ATT write to Microsoft and say, hey, our network is getting a
lot of junk email sent through Microsoft Outlook. We therefore demand
you get rid of the CC and BCC features of that product. Of course
not!
Nope. They send
There appears to be a lack of understanding on the part of Twitter of
the following:
When you create a vacuum, something will fill that vacuum.
Instead of working with me and opting for a solution I offered to them
that would have ensured that recurring tweets never result in
duplicate content
I see @ mention abusers as a different breed because for the most part
their Tweets are not technically duplicates. They are complete
pollution for sure and harder for an individual user to stop
preemptively. At least if someone is annoyed with recurring or
duplicate tweets they can simply
Does ATT write to Microsoft and say, hey, our network is getting a
lot of junk email sent through Microsoft Outlook. We therefore demand
you get rid of the CC and BCC features of that product. Of course
not!
Nope. They send letters to the FCC because Google Voice is filling up their
I am using the streaming search API. If I have more than one term to
search, do I need to separate those terms with commas? If these are
hash tags, do I include the hash symbol? (#test1, #test2, #test3) I
am experiencing some random problems, and I would like to eliminate
this as the trouble
You clearly do not understand the basics of HTTP. Do you think that
Twitter is going to somehow deny Firefox, IE, and other desktop
clients from connecting to Twitter with a simple username and password
only?
Since when do Firefox and IE use the API to communicate with Twitter? Last
My point is that Basic Auth will be going away with the API. If an
application is not using the API, then it's developers don't have to worry
about Basic Auth going away because it won't concern them.
OAuth is for API authorization, not website authorization.
Ryan
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:11
I brought this up on this list before, let's look at this:
http://help.twitter.com/home
1) Where do I go to open a ticket?
I read the entire page, to find a little link, that says ask us.
That takes me to:
http://twitter.zendesk.com/requests/new
That redirects me around a few times, and takes
For the sake of argument, let's take this at face value as true. How
about the search pollution issue with recurrent tweets in general?
You may have a point. But it comes down to uneven enforcement.
Twitter smacks down an app because they allow an individual to recur,
say, every Monday:
Yes, and should be treated as such. I personally detest all those stupid
twitter-based games. Point is, with Twitter's userbase, some get through the
cracks. Don't like it, report it. This is like complaining that cops only
pull over SOME speeders. Yeah, some are going to get through the cracks.
There is currently a bug in the system that will inadvertently omit
rejection reasons. Please email a...@twitter.com with your username and
we can lookup the information.
-Chad
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com wrote:
I brought this up on this list before,
Now there is an excellent analogy, which begs the question, Where is
the user's responsibility in this?
I have very clearly warned my users, every time they enter a tweet,
that they must adhere to the Twitter Rules, with hyperlinks to those
rules. That was not good enough.
So, with your analogy
For the sake of argument, let's take this at face value as true. How
about the search pollution issue with recurrent tweets in general?
You may have a point. But it comes down to uneven enforcement.
Twitter smacks down an app because they allow an individual to recur,
say, every Monday:
The pictures of who I am following overlap their tweets and I can't
read all of it.
Hi Chad,
I've had difficulty receiving responses to #591600 and #593461 - is
this due to the bug? Looks like it's been ignored :
Thanks
-Sam
On Oct 13, 9:37 pm, Chad Etzel c...@twitter.com wrote:
There is currently a bug in the system that will inadvertently omit
rejection reasons. Please
Hi Jacob and/or Sam,
I don't have any visibility into the Zen Desk tickets. You can try
supp...@twitter.com for that...
-Chad
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Jacob sam...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Chad,
I've had difficulty receiving responses to #591600 and #593461 - is
this due to the bug?
They already do that ... in SOME cases. Pharmacies are required (or maybe
simply strongly encouraged) to sell OTC meds like Sudafed behind the counter
because some people use that to make crystal meth. The government requires a
waiting period on guns because some people use guns to murder people.
It sounds like you need to get the developer of your Twitter client in
here so we can help him.
If duplicate tweets are the concern, then why are RT's on their way to
being a feature?
Abuse is the concern. Not duplicate content, right?
So a local restaurant can't setup a tweet to go out on Wednesdays to
remind their followers of 1/2 off appetizers? There's no ill intent
here, and they
There are many many reasons to reject whitelist applications. We
definitely will not whitelist an entire /24 block of IPs, though. I
have responded to you off-list about your particular case.
-Chad
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com wrote:
What is the most
I dunno. It'd be nice. I personally like rearranging deck chairs like this.
It was civil and, hopefully, productive.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 17:39, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:
I often wonder whether our non-API musings here on these forums have
any effect on anything, or are we
Cut it out, Abraham :P
ugh, spammers suck :(
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Has anyone had an issue doing ajax calls and the twitterauth thinking
it is the root directory rather than the app directory?
The only Twitter participation we've had thus far on this unfortunate
matter was Chad aging 10 years in 10 seconds over the idea that
someone can write a desktop or browser script that scrapes the login
page and then do whatever the hell it pleases (you know, like posting
something awful like
Believe it or not, I've been reading every post on this thread with
great intent. I have been proxying major points to powers that be
and started an internal discussion on the topic at hand. The resulting
decisions and policies that may be made/enforced from these
discussions is, how do you say,
Thank you Chad, that is comforting to know.
Dewald
On Oct 13, 10:28 pm, Chad Etzel c...@twitter.com wrote:
Believe it or not, I've been reading every post on this thread with
great intent. I have been proxying major points to powers that be
and started an internal discussion on the topic at
Thanks for the response Chad. Hoping we can find measures to curb abuse
while still allowing responsible use of recurrence as a useful tool for
publishers, businesses and their followers who benefit from the
consistency/timeliness of the communications.
On 10/13/09 8:28 PM, Chad Etzel
Chad,
Perhaps it will behoove the powers that be to actually speak to some
of us developers to discover the ways people are using Twitter. When
decisions are made from the isolation of the glass bubble of the
Twitter Head Office, without really knowing what the USERS want, stuff
like this
With communication like that, we can together figure out ways to give
the users what they want in a manner that does not put undue strain on
your system.
Pissing developers off is NOT the right way to do it.
Dewald
On Oct 13, 10:58 pm, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:
Chad,
Perhaps
Chad:
Sorry, I didn't see you had posted in here, and not sure if my
subsequent posts properly answered you.
I mean that Desktop apps, not being bound by a whitelisted IP,
wouldn't be limited by restrictions limiting API access to OAUTH
only. Namely, a desktop client could use a Mozilla
also , there should be a way for people whose tweets are wrongly
marked as spam to remove their reg -exes from the system- and the
system can perhaps send a direct message to sender for every 100 or so
noise tweets blocked.
Just a thought..
N. S
On 10/14/09, Dave Briccetti da...@davebsoft.com
I've previously asked for guidelines on what our responsibilities are
in terms of self-policing. No answer.
Add to that the clear and unambiguous definition of things. Yeah sure,
Twitter cannot clearly define things because that will aid the
spammers. Bullshit. It is their responsibility to
Hello
This might be naive, but I was checking out many Hollywood, sports
personalities twitter accounts. So how does Twitter authenticate these users
from fake accounts? Initially I thought verified accounts will be the way,
but then I saw there are many people whose accounts are not verified ,
did you want this - http://twitter.com/verified ?
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Yogesh Mali yomali1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
This might be naive, but I was checking out many Hollywood, sports
personalities twitter accounts. So how does Twitter authenticate these users
from fake
anyway, ignore my previous response.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Yogesh Mali yomali1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
This might be naive, but I was checking out many Hollywood, sports
personalities twitter accounts. So how does Twitter authenticate these users
from fake accounts? Initially I
When my application requests an OAuth token on behalf of a user trying
to login, I have been seeing some errors:
Frequently: /oauth/access_token Invalid / expired Token
What is the length of time that a token is supposed to be valid for?
Is this documented and can it be extended? I'm sure
Chad,
Could you provide Twitter's official stance on what exactly is being
banned? If the ban is limited to recurring tweets, it would help to
have a clear definition.
Can I assume that this means that Twitter is no longer allowing a
single user to publish the substantially same content to
Hello,
I hope someone can help my query with the REST API /users/show.xml
doesn't seem to be returning an xml string...
I'm getting strange data back from my query. Here's the code:
$twitterHost = 'http://twitter.com/users/show.xml?
screen_name=' . urlencode($lookforname);
I use a service called localbunny that allows people to pull content
on request, will this type of service be effected as well:
Example: a user types @TwitterName keyword this returns 1- 5 tweets.
Multiple people tweet that syntax per day and prior to a meeting 100's
of people might make this
How are you showing $query? If you're just doing print $query in a browser,
the XML wouldn't show up in the window. You could either set the
Content-type: text/plain before outputting $query, or by checking view
source.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 22:37, ArnieLapinig arnie.lapi...@gmail.com wrote:
I just ran your exact code, and was able to pull an xml string just
fine, so I do not believe it is your code. The only thing I can think
is you may want to curl_close() the connection, perhaps there is some
caching or other similar thing in effect, though that is a big long
shot.
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