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2004-04-08 Thread Clif Oliver
Excellent idea. I will make sure it gets passed along to the new hosts. Thank you. -- Regards, Clif On Apr 8, 2004, at 1:14 AM, Dennis Bartlett wrote: A bit late in the day, but it would be better if you put END OF THREAD in the subject line as those of us who selectively read -- u2-users mai

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2004-04-08 Thread Dennis Bartlett
this cardinal rule... dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clif Oliver Sent: 06 April 2004 06:06 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: Modern Universe (TESTING) *** END OF THREAD *** DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD ANY FURTHER (That

Re: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-06 Thread Clif Oliver
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/2004 10:53 PM Please respond to U2 Users Discussion List To: "'U2 Users Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) Why is this thread here? And, why is it still continuing

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-06 Thread tvankirk
I am kind of enjoying it. "Glenn W. Paschal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/2004 10:53 PM Please respond to U2 Users Discussion List To: "'U2 Users Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Su

Re: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread Clif Oliver
*** END OF THREAD *** DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD ANY FURTHER (That means *anyone* not just the poster of the message used for the Moderator reply) On Apr 5, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Andrew Gissing wrote: If you Dont Agree, Prove it... Everybody can Talk.. Where are your Test Results? The problem wi

[ADMIN] Re: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread Clif Oliver
EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Scoggins Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:54 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) Will, Joe I think Zero is an exagerration. This is NOT an Exaggeration, these are TEST Results from well maintained SQL Tables. So you're cla

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread Glenn W. Paschal
Why is this thread here? And, why is it still continuing? Can we stop now? --Glenn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Gissing Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:55 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread Andrew Gissing
> If you Dont Agree, Prove it... Everybody can Talk.. Where are your Test > Results? The problem with performance tests is that there are so many variables. And then if you remove a lot of the variables to perform a lab test, that does not reflect real world. So then you try and make your lab con

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread Joe Eugene
l 05, 2004 7:54 PM >To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' >Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) > > >> Will, >> >> > Joe I think Zero is an exagerration. >> >> This is NOT an Exaggeration, these are TEST Results from well >> maintained >

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread Joe Eugene
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Logan, David (SST - Adelaide) >Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:42 PM >To: U2 Users Discussion List >Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) > > >Hi Joe, > >I must admit to being completely baffled as to your point. Are you > >1) Tryin

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread David Scoggins
> Will, > > > Joe I think Zero is an exagerration. > > This is NOT an Exaggeration, these are TEST Results from well > maintained > SQL Tables. So you're claiming that the query literally takes ZERO time - or in other words that MS SQL Server is INFINITELY fast in performing this particular que

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
8408 4273 +61 417 268 665 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Eugene Sent: Tuesday, 6 April 2004 8:40 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) Will, > Joe I think Zero is an exagerration. T

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread Joe Eugene
lf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 1:16 PM > To: U2 Users Discussion List > Subject: Re: Modern Universe (TESTING) > > In a message dated 4/4/2004 11:28:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > The other day.. i was inspecting a

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread Ross Ferris
ion. Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage – an Evolution in Software Development >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, 5 April 2004 2:24 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Modern Univer

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread alfkec
gt;From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:19 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Modern Universe (TESTING) > > >In a message dated 4/4/2004 11:30:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> >Person

Re: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/4/2004 11:30:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Personally I would be surprised if either database had a > way of handling > >leading wildcards other than an exhaustive scan. > > Use "Contains"/English Query. See MS-SQL Server Docs. > > Joe Eugene

Re: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-05 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/4/2004 11:28:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The other day.. i was inspecting a UV File with a UV Developer, he ran a > "COUNT FILENAME" > on our Customer Master... (BTW Quad CPU 4GHZ)... It took 12-15 Minutes to > get a result > back from UV. The fil

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-04 Thread Bruce Nichol
Goo'day, Is this conversation going anywhere? All I can recall is a rant and rave about (IMO, incorrect) perceived deficiencies of UV from this bloke, followed by a stream of invective towards any responder that had the temerity to offer a different outlook, and for the past couple of days, no

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-04 Thread Joe Eugene
TED] >Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:24 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Modern Universe (TESTING) > > >In a message dated 4/4/2004 9:11:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >> >One thing I think every

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-04 Thread Joe Eugene
nly had 800,000 Records. This kind of Operation normally takes "ZERO" Milliseconds in any Enterprise RDBMS. I had nothing to say but LAUGH!. Joe Eugene >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Ray Wurlod >Sent: Sunday,

Re: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-04 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/4/2004 9:11:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >One thing I think everyone's missed (deliberately or otherwise) > >wildcard (WHERE address LIKE '%EXPLORATION'). > > I brought this up a couple of times, nobody seemed to be interested > to check the dif

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-04 Thread Joe Eugene
L PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Ray Wurlod >Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 1:27 AM >To: U2 Users Discussion List >Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) > > >One thing I think everyone's missed (deliberately or otherwise) >was that Sara's original post ha

Re: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-04 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/4/2004 12:04:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > As a quick f'r instance, if I were set the task of selecting records based > on an indexed field (column) from a UniVerse BASIC program, I'd use > SELECTINDEX to process the index directly, rather than u

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-03 Thread Ray Wurlod
Oops, didn't intend to send this to the list. Sorry. - Original Message - From: "Ray Wurlod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:08:19 +1000 To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) > Jo

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-03 Thread Ray Wurlod
-0500 To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) > Ray, > > I see you are doing a few things here, am not quite sure i understand. > > The only way i have OUR UV Programmers using BASIC/PICK do this > is like >

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-03 Thread Ray Wurlod
implementing more efficient processing. One can understand the "if it's not broken don't fix it" mentality but to these folks employ a person carry ing a red flag to precede their automobile, as used to be required until the law was changed? - Original Message - From: &q

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-04-03 Thread Ray Wurlod
One thing I think everyone's missed (deliberately or otherwise) was that Sara's original post had a constraint with a LEADING wildcard (WHERE address LIKE '%EXPLORATION'). The argument that has been raging since has used examples with TRAILING wildcards (WHERE name LIKE 'Sara%'). Apples and or

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-31 Thread Joe Eugene
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Ray Wurlod >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:57 PM >To: U2 Users Discussion List >Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) > > >On this basis here are the RetrieVe equivalents for my earlier >post. The main difference is that there's mo

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-31 Thread Ray Wurlod
rget is second file/table COUNT SUM not really relevant for NAME HTH - Original Message - From: "Joe Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:33:20 -0500 To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: M

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-31 Thread Donald Kibbey
same manner you would agains tables. Cheers, Stewart -Original Message- From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 6:03 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) Tim, My apologies... Yes, i know UV has a SQL Interface but i didnt t

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-31 Thread Mitchell, Stewart
Joe, You can use an SQL query against normal UV files in the same manner you would agains tables. Cheers, Stewart -Original Message- From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 6:03 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) Tim

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-31 Thread Joe Eugene
Joe Eugene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Timothy Snyder Sent: Wed 3/31/2004 3:12 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) Joe Eugene wrote on 03/31/2004 02:59:29 PM: > Please post your PICK/BASIC and SQL Query.. so w

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-31 Thread Timothy Snyder
Joe Eugene wrote on 03/31/2004 02:59:29 PM: > Please post your PICK/BASIC and SQL Query.. so we i can learn > the magic you did on the PICK Side. Joe, Unless I'm missing something, Sara used the SQL statement against the UniVerse database. Perhaps you weren't aware that UniVerse supports

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-31 Thread Joe Eugene
__ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sara Burns Sent: Wed 3/31/2004 12:57 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) As requested My queries were done on our machine reasonably early in the morning before there were a lot of users. I repeated them to ens

Re: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-30 Thread Jim Garratt
Well Said Sara. - Original Message - From: "Sara Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:57 PM Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) > As requested > > My queries were done on our machine reasonably early in

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-30 Thread Sara Burns
As requested My queries were done on our machine reasonably early in the morning before there were a lot of users. I repeated them to ensure that data was in cache. Both had the same format SELECT CustomerNo FROM CustomerFile WHERE PostalAddLine1 like '%EXPLORATION%' ORDER BY CustomerNam

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-30 Thread dave . meeks
t argument, the answer is an emphatic yes. -Original Message- From: Joe Eugene To: U2 Users Discussion List Sent: 3/30/2004 6:56 PM Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) Dave, > I think the results point out the fallacy of your arguments. The results Sara posted here does NOT Prove

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-30 Thread dave . meeks
engine to perform a merge-sort similar to what you describe. Just didn't seem that this called for such a need. Dave -Original Message- From: Robert Colquhoun To: U2 Users Discussion List Sent: 3/30/2004 7:01 PM Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) Hello Dave, At 09:36 AM 31/03

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-30 Thread Marlene Yokoyama
iginal Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) > > I think the results point out the fallacy of your arguments

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-30 Thread E Y Neu
tests might do that, not really sure on that one...) Eric Y. Neu Sr. Programmer Analyst Zetron, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Eugene Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 3:07 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Modern Unive

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-30 Thread Robert Colquhoun
Hello Dave, At 09:36 AM 31/03/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, one thing I did want to address is your QUAD processor point. You've made it a few times, and I just had to point out that it is irrelevant to the discussion. While UV will take native advantage of multi-processors in it's exec

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-30 Thread Joe Eugene
2004 6:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING) > > I think the results point out the fallacy of your arguments. It shows, > pretty definitevly, that UV can and does perform as well/better as Oracle, > albeit under certain circumstances (ie, I&#x

RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

2004-03-30 Thread Leroy Dreyfuss
cc Subject 03/30/2004 04:36 RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)

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2004-03-30 Thread dave . meeks
rmance equivalent of operating on a single processor machine of whatever rating it has (and obviously, memory, other applications running, etc... impact that) Dave -Original Message- From: Joe Eugene To: U2 Users Discussion List Sent: 3/30/2004 6:07 PM Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TEST

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2004-03-30 Thread Joe Eugene
Sara, Can you please post your Query and results... Cause I am seeing the EXACT Opposite...as I posted earlier. Oracle Query is what? Select firstName from Customers where firstName like 'Sar%'; The above takes about 7-9 Times More Time to get any results on Our UV QUAD PROCESSOR MACHINE. Pleas