Re: Reveal Codes

2022-03-22 Thread W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.
(whether 'automatic' or not) starts and ends. For example, â á - Robert From: Andrew Pitonyak Sent: March 21, 2022 13:52 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Reveal Codes First, to identify a few problems with "reveal codes. One pr

Re: Reveal Codes

2022-03-21 Thread Andrew Pitonyak
First, to identify a few problems with "reveal codes. One problem with "reveal" codes with respect to OpenOffice is related to the use of styles compared to hard coded attributes. I perform most formatting using a style, but it is difficult to understand whether a single cha

Re: Reveal Codes

2022-03-21 Thread Alan B
There is no reveal codes in OpenOffice. Reveal Codes was a Wordperfect feature. The Word feature of the same name is activated by Shift+F1. The Word feature may go by the same name but is nothing like the Wordperfect feature because the structure of the files is different. If you have a line

Reveal Codes

2022-03-20 Thread Jennie Bickerton
Hi Steve, I am having problems in a document with paragraph numbers and sub-paragraph entries ( 1. and then A. etc.) and also a double line across the page that I have no idea how it got there.  I know in Microsoft there was an "F#" that would open Reveal Codes so that I cou

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-10 Thread Andrew Pitonyak
lar style. This would be just as useful in OO and LO. - Robert If one turns on /Format /Styles and Formatting, it clearly indicates the current formatting style at the cursor position. /View /Non printing characters is helpful in showing spacing and paragraph/line ends. I tested the reveal co

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-10 Thread Andrew Pitonyak
. The ability to delete a formatting mark from within "reveal codes" window. I think you could do that in WP anyway. Both of these could be worked around in a native version of the capability, but, for now, that is not available, and, I do not expect it to be available anytime soon si

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-10 Thread Robert Funnell
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:08:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Robert Funnell wrote: ... To me the value of RevealCodes in WordPerfect was not just in seeing the structure but in therefore being able to position the cursor

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-10 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:08:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Robert Funnell wrote: > On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote: > > > Let me clarify. The “codes” revealed are not what your thinking of — tags > > with bracketed text, XML code, etc.. I think that the

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-10 Thread Robert Funnell
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote: Let me clarify. The “codes” revealed are not what your thinking of — tags with bracketed text, XML code, etc.. I think that the viewing option should more properly be called “Reveal Structure” since it simply shows what formatting instruction has

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-10 Thread zahra a
ng, etc.. > > Stephen Nichols > > > On Aug 9, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Robert Funnell <robert.funn...@mcgill.ca> > wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Martin Groenescheij wrote: > >> The reveal codes shows bad formatting issues, if you learn to use Styles >>

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-09 Thread Stephen Nichols
, typeface and size, indentations, line spacing, etc.. Stephen Nichols On Aug 9, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Robert Funnell <robert.funn...@mcgill.ca> wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Martin Groenescheij wrote: > The reveal codes shows bad formatting issues, if you learn to use Styles &

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-09 Thread jonathon
On 08/09/2017 07:48 PM, Stephen Nichols wrote: > 2) I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP. > But … Why can’t/won't OpenOffice add a similar feature? What problem do you think "Reveal Codes" solves. I mean something other the fact that the developers of WP couldn'

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-09 Thread Robert Funnell
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Martin Groenescheij wrote: The reveal codes shows bad formatting issues, if you learn to use Styles properly there is nothing to reveal. Sometimes one has to work with documents created by other people. And often one would like to be able to place the cursor before

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-09 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2017-08-09 21:48 GMT+02:00 Stephen Nichols <step...@nichols-family.us>: > I used WordPerfect for 15 years because of two reasons, besides that it’s > a great product. > 1) I hate Microsoft. > 2) I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP. It is the most >

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-09 Thread Robert Funnell
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote: I used WordPerfect for 15 years because of two reasons, besides that it’s a great product. 1) I hate Microsoft. 2) I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP. It is the most powerful tool in word processing, eliminating all sorts of bad

reveal codes

2017-08-09 Thread Stephen Nichols
I used WordPerfect for 15 years because of two reasons, besides that it’s a great product. 1) I hate Microsoft. 2) I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP. It is the most powerful tool in word processing, eliminating all sorts of bad formatting issues. I can’t easily use WP

Simple advice on how to get Reveal Codes inplemented please

2014-05-24 Thread DaveMainwaring
the Reveal Codes feature to be most useful in finding oddball things that may have come in with an imported file, and to debug minor mishaps that are not obvious from just looking at the text. One use of Reveal Codes will tell you whether a tab or a set of spaces is used in a text. Also

Re: Simple advice on how to get Reveal Codes inplemented please

2014-05-24 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/24/2014 07:02 AM, DaveMainwaring wrote: Some of the threads are so long I don't have the energy to follow all the stuff :_) How do I vote, and support this initiative (or any other) ? This is where you vote for that particular issue

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
yes, voting is how you officially indicate your interest On 05/23/2014 03:39 AM, Helen wrote: I'd love the reveal codes feature -- didn't know there was a vote until I ran across this. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 05/19/2014 06:11

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread mt
, or when special (manual) character formatting has been applied to styled paragraphs: this is where reveal codes can come in handy. Also, typically, Reveal codes was used by someone other than the original author... funny this has never been mentioned, given that it was the main reason why we

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread japples
has been applied to styled paragraphs: this is where reveal codes can come in handy. Also, typically, Reveal codes was used by someone other than the original author... funny this has never been mentioned, given that it was the main reason why we had to use Reveal codes back when WordPerfect

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Steve's G-Mail
Allow me to add my 'two-pence worth’ to this important discussion. Seems to me that it has been well-explained earlier that a ‘reveal codes’-like solution (apparently as in WordPerfect) is not readily achievable within OO, as the formatting controls of OO don’t lend themselves

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote: So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires casual users to travel the steep learning curve to enable their use and possibility of creating conflicts with other style rules or show consideration to the casual user and provide

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread 許哲崇
If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? 2014-05-19 20:17 GMT+08:00 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org: On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote: So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires casual

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Doug
On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? The problem is that most versions of WordPerfect don't run on Linux. (WordPerfect 12 word processor only will run, but can't read the latest Microsoft formats.

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Jim McLaughlin
All the more reason why the open source community operating under the Apache umbrella should add a Reveal Codes analog to OO. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? No problem at all... :-) The potential issue is that loading in a different editor will cause slightly different things to be displayed (at least that is my

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Julian Thomas
that something like that is what people asking for Reveal codes might find useful. As WordPress demonstrates and Richard Detwiler already suggested, these two ways of looking at a written page are not necessarily mutually exclusive. So if they are in OO, maybe this is what needs to be explained to us

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Julian Thomas
On 19 May 2014, at 09:38, 許哲崇 fide...@gmail.com wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? lack of a current wordperfect and why should we pay for it if we are committed to OO? jt --- List

Re: Reveal Codes Query

2014-05-18 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/17/2014 04:35 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2014-05-16 20:38 GMT+02:00 japples japp...@europa.com: Does a list exist for OO users to vote for proposed future functionalities? I would like to vote for Reveal Codes. Reveal Codes is a very useful tool. It works independently of the Style

Re: Reveal Codes Query

2014-05-17 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2014-05-16 20:38 GMT+02:00 japples japp...@europa.com: Does a list exist for OO users to vote for proposed future functionalities? I would like to vote for Reveal Codes. Reveal Codes is a very useful tool. It works independently of the Style rules and does not require the user to take time

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-21 Thread Eric Fenster
Try /View /Non printing characters. This allows one to exactly position the cursor. That's totally different. It shows paragraph breaks and spaces, not formatting codes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-21 Thread Rory O'Farrell
A short response to many of the points raised in this thread, to quote which points would be tedious and not very relevant to this posting. Would it be possible to reach a broad equivalent of reveal codes by incorporating an XML analysis screen.facility, which would look at the underlying

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-21 Thread Dan Lewis
On 01/21/2013 11:29 AM, Eric Fenster wrote: Try /View /Non printing characters. This allows one to exactly position the cursor. That's totally different. It shows paragraph breaks and spaces, not formatting codes. - To

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-21 Thread Eric Fenster
Gosh, I wish we could display a screen shot here of what we're talking about! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-21 Thread Eric Fenster
document with 100 formatting errors. A correct version of the document must be available It's not so much about errors as the ease of making changes when revising one's text. People who write exactly what their final version should be the first time may have to deal with errors. The rest of

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-21 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Eric, Eric Fenster schrieb: Styles doesn't begin to do what Reveal Codes does. Just simple things like when Bold or Italics stop and start, where languages change, etc. It's far easier to SEE a code, delete where necessary or place a cursor. Reveal codes seems to be the major feature

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-21 Thread Dan Lewis
On 01/21/2013 01:47 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Eric, Eric Fenster schrieb: Styles doesn't begin to do what Reveal Codes does. Just simple things like when Bold or Italics stop and start, where languages change, etc. It's far easier to SEE a code, delete where necessary or place a cursor

Re: Reveal codes?

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Funnell
At https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3395 you can see some of the history of this request. I would love to see it but I don't know if it will ever happen. On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Eric Fenster wrote: What chance Open Office will offer reveal codes à la Word Perfect

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Brian Barker
At 11:10 20/01/2013 -0500, Helen Etters wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:42:46 -0800 (PST), Eric Fenster wrote: What chance Open Office will offer reveal codes à la Word Perfect? This is the reason I keep my old Word Perfect program, as crash-prone as it is. The feature really helps control

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 08:27:19 -0800 (PST) Eric Fenster eric...@yahoo.com wrote: Styles doesn't begin to do what Reveal Codes does. Just simple things like when Bold or Italics stop and start, where languages change, etc. It's far easier to SEE a code, delete where necessary or place

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Brian Barker
At 12:21 20/01/2013 -0500, Alan Boba wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Brian Barker wrote: At 11:10 20/01/2013 -0500, Helen Etters wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:42:46 -0800 (PST), Eric Fenster wrote: What chance Open Office will offer reveal codes à la Word Perfect? This is the reason

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Brian Barker
know how to find the formatting element that you inserted and now wish to delete. In WP, that is easy. Press Reveal Codes, find the code you don't want, and delete it. I'm with you all the way - except for the last three words! If your document looks wrong but you don't know how to find

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread James Plante
the formatting element that you inserted and now wish to delete. In WP, that is easy. Press Reveal Codes, find the code you don't want, and delete it. I'm with you all the way - except for the last three words! If your document looks wrong but you don't know how to find the formatting element

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Eric Fenster
I wish people who have made some of the comments actually had experience with the Reveal Codes function in WP. First, for those not familiar with it, the Reveal Codes can be turned on and off and the amount of space (number of lines of text) it consumes on the screen is under complete control

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Eric Fenster
just select default formatting to clear all formatting. Why destroy everything and start over if all that's necessary is to put the cursor on a code and DEL For ex, a hard page break that becomes out of place because text has been added during editing. Click on the page break code, it's

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Alan Boba
this is not exactly the way you want it, and so wish to make an adjustment. Your document looks wrong but you don't know how to find the formatting element that you inserted and now wish to delete. In WP, that is easy. Press Reveal Codes, find the code you don't want, and delete it. I'm with you all

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Eric Fenster
If attachments work here, there will be a screen shot of WP with the Reveal Codes window open. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread johnny smith
On Sunday, 20 January 2013 19:46:18, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: Why must you insist on making the writer go thru hoops to fix something when Reveal Codes can do it for him quickly and easily? Just let us have the capability--if *you* want to go thru those hoops, then go ahead--I

RE: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
that's the barrier so much. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rod Lockwood [mailto:rodlockw...@provide.net] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 19:15 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: reveal codes [ ... ] Also, you can see what the formatting is at any given point by looking

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Martin Groenescheij
On 21/01/2013 5:51 AM, Eric Fenster wrote: I wish people who have made some of the comments actually had experience with the Reveal Codes function in WP. First, for those not familiar with it, the Reveal Codes can be turned on and off and the amount of space (number of lines of text

RE: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
OpenOffice. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Martin Groenescheij [mailto:mar...@groenescheij.com] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 20:28 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: reveal codes [ ... ] I really don't understand this rather authoritarian recommendation. If I write

Re: reveal codes

2013-01-20 Thread Eric Fenster
editing your text and remove the bold or remove the word but fail to take account of what you originally did to the space following the word, the bold code is still there, invisible. You start typing your replacement word or additional text and it is bold, unintentionally. With reveal codes, you see