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- Robert
From: Andrew Pitonyak
Sent: March 21, 2022 13:52
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Reveal Codes
First, to identify a few problems with "reveal codes.
One pr
First, to identify a few problems with "reveal codes.
One problem with "reveal" codes with respect to OpenOffice is related to the
use of styles compared to hard coded attributes. I perform most formatting
using a style, but it is difficult to understand whether a single cha
There is no reveal codes in OpenOffice.
Reveal Codes was a Wordperfect feature. The Word feature of the same name
is activated by Shift+F1. The Word feature may go by the same name but is
nothing like the Wordperfect feature because the structure of the files is
different.
If you have a line
Hi Steve,
I am having problems in a document with paragraph numbers and sub-paragraph
entries ( 1. and then A. etc.) and also a double line across the page that I
have no idea how it got there. I know in Microsoft there was an "F#" that
would open Reveal Codes so that I cou
lar style. This
would be just as useful in OO and LO.
- Robert
If one turns on /Format /Styles and Formatting, it clearly indicates
the current formatting style at the cursor position.
/View /Non printing characters is helpful in showing spacing and
paragraph/line ends.
I tested the reveal co
. The ability to delete a formatting mark from within "reveal codes"
window. I think you could do that in WP anyway.
Both of these could be worked around in a native version of the
capability, but, for now, that is not available, and, I do not expect it
to be available anytime soon si
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:08:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Robert Funnell wrote:
...
To me the value of RevealCodes in WordPerfect was not just in seeing
the structure but in therefore being able to position the cursor
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:08:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Robert Funnell wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote:
>
> > Let me clarify. The “codes” revealed are not what your thinking of — tags
> > with bracketed text, XML code, etc.. I think that the
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote:
Let me clarify. The “codes” revealed are not what your thinking of — tags with
bracketed text, XML code, etc.. I think that the viewing option should more
properly be called “Reveal Structure” since it simply shows what formatting
instruction has
ng, etc..
>
> Stephen Nichols
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Robert Funnell <robert.funn...@mcgill.ca>
> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>
>> The reveal codes shows bad formatting issues, if you learn to use Styles
>>
, typeface and
size, indentations, line spacing, etc..
Stephen Nichols
On Aug 9, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Robert Funnell <robert.funn...@mcgill.ca> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
> The reveal codes shows bad formatting issues, if you learn to use Styles
&
On 08/09/2017 07:48 PM, Stephen Nichols wrote:
> 2) I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP.
> But … Why can’t/won't OpenOffice add a similar feature?
What problem do you think "Reveal Codes" solves.
I mean something other the fact that the developers of WP couldn'
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
The reveal codes shows bad formatting issues, if you learn to use Styles
properly there is nothing to reveal.
Sometimes one has to work with documents created by other people.
And often one would like to be able to place the cursor before
2017-08-09 21:48 GMT+02:00 Stephen Nichols <step...@nichols-family.us>:
> I used WordPerfect for 15 years because of two reasons, besides that it’s
> a great product.
> 1) I hate Microsoft.
> 2) I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP. It is the most
>
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote:
I used WordPerfect for 15 years because of two reasons, besides that it’s a
great product.
1) I hate Microsoft.
2) I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP. It is the most
powerful tool in word processing, eliminating all sorts of bad
I used WordPerfect for 15 years because of two reasons, besides that it’s a
great product.
1) I hate Microsoft.
2) I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP. It is the most
powerful tool in word processing, eliminating all sorts of bad formatting
issues.
I can’t easily use WP
the Reveal Codes feature to be most useful in finding oddball
things that may have come in with an imported file, and to debug minor
mishaps that are
not obvious from just looking at the text. One use of Reveal Codes will
tell you whether a tab or a set of spaces is used in a text. Also
On 05/24/2014 07:02 AM, DaveMainwaring wrote:
Some of the threads are so long I don't have the energy to follow all the
stuff :_)
How do I vote, and support this initiative (or any other) ?
This is where you vote for that particular issue
yes, voting is how you officially indicate your interest
On 05/23/2014 03:39 AM, Helen wrote:
I'd love the reveal codes feature -- didn't know there was a vote until I
ran across this.
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
and...@pitonyak.org wrote:
On 05/19/2014 06:11
, or when special (manual) character
formatting has been applied to styled paragraphs: this is where
reveal codes can come in handy. Also, typically, Reveal
codes was used by someone other than the original author...
funny this has never been mentioned, given that it was the main
reason why we
has
been applied to styled paragraphs: this is where reveal codes can
come in handy. Also, typically, Reveal codes was used by someone
other than the original author... funny this has never been mentioned,
given that it was the main reason why we had to use Reveal codes
back when WordPerfect
Allow me to add my 'two-pence worth’ to this important discussion.
Seems to me that it has been well-explained earlier that a ‘reveal codes’-like
solution (apparently as in WordPerfect) is not readily achievable within OO, as
the formatting controls of OO don’t lend themselves
On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote:
So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which
requires casual users to travel the steep learning curve to enable
their use and possibility of creating conflicts with other style rules
or show consideration to the casual user and provide
If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code,
what is the problem?
2014-05-19 20:17 GMT+08:00 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org:
On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote:
So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires
casual
On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote:
If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code,
what is the problem?
The problem is that most versions of WordPerfect don't run on Linux.
(WordPerfect 12 word processor only will run, but can't read the latest
Microsoft formats.
All the more reason why the open source community operating under the
Apache umbrella should add a Reveal Codes analog to OO.
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote:
If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect
On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote:
If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code,
what is the problem?
No problem at all... :-)
The potential issue is that loading in a different editor will cause
slightly different things to be displayed (at least that is my
that something like that is what people asking for Reveal codes might find
useful.
As WordPress demonstrates and Richard Detwiler already suggested, these two
ways of looking at a written page are not necessarily mutually exclusive. So
if they are in OO, maybe this is what needs to be explained to us
On 19 May 2014, at 09:38, 許哲崇 fide...@gmail.com wrote:
If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code,
what is the problem?
lack of a current wordperfect and why should we pay for it if we are committed
to OO? jt
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On 05/17/2014 04:35 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
2014-05-16 20:38 GMT+02:00 japples japp...@europa.com:
Does a list exist for OO users to vote for proposed future
functionalities? I would like to vote for Reveal Codes.
Reveal Codes is a very useful tool. It works independently of the Style
2014-05-16 20:38 GMT+02:00 japples japp...@europa.com:
Does a list exist for OO users to vote for proposed future
functionalities? I would like to vote for Reveal Codes.
Reveal Codes is a very useful tool. It works independently of the Style
rules and does not require the user to take time
Try /View /Non printing characters. This allows one to exactly position the
cursor.
That's totally different. It shows paragraph breaks and spaces, not formatting
codes.
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A short response to many of the points raised in this thread, to quote which
points would be tedious and not very relevant to this posting.
Would it be possible to reach a broad equivalent of reveal codes by
incorporating an XML analysis screen.facility, which would look at the
underlying
On 01/21/2013 11:29 AM, Eric Fenster wrote:
Try /View /Non printing characters. This allows one to exactly position the
cursor.
That's totally different. It shows paragraph breaks and spaces, not formatting
codes.
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document with 100 formatting errors. A correct version of the document must
be available
It's not so much about errors as the ease of making changes when revising
one's text.
People who write exactly what their final version should be the first time may
have to deal with errors. The rest of
Hi Eric,
Eric Fenster schrieb:
Styles doesn't begin to do what Reveal Codes does.
Just simple things like when Bold or Italics stop and start, where
languages change, etc. It's far easier to SEE a code, delete where
necessary or place a cursor.
Reveal codes seems to be the major feature
On 01/21/2013 01:47 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
Hi Eric,
Eric Fenster schrieb:
Styles doesn't begin to do what Reveal Codes does.
Just simple things like when Bold or Italics stop and start, where
languages change, etc. It's far easier to SEE a code, delete where
necessary or place a cursor
At https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3395 you can see some
of the history of this request. I would love to see it but I don't
know if it will ever happen.
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Eric Fenster wrote:
What chance Open Office will offer reveal codes à la Word Perfect
At 11:10 20/01/2013 -0500, Helen Etters wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:42:46 -0800 (PST), Eric Fenster wrote:
What chance Open Office will offer reveal codes à la Word Perfect?
This is the reason I keep my old Word Perfect
program, as crash-prone as it is. The feature really helps control
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 08:27:19 -0800 (PST)
Eric Fenster eric...@yahoo.com wrote:
Styles doesn't begin to do what Reveal Codes does.
Just simple things like when Bold or Italics stop and start, where languages
change, etc. It's far easier to SEE a code, delete where necessary or place
At 12:21 20/01/2013 -0500, Alan Boba wrote:
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
At 11:10 20/01/2013 -0500, Helen Etters wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:42:46 -0800 (PST), Eric Fenster wrote:
What chance Open Office will offer reveal codes à la Word Perfect?
This is the reason
know how to
find the formatting element that you inserted and now wish to
delete. In WP, that is easy. Press Reveal Codes, find the code you
don't want, and delete it.
I'm with you all the way - except for the last three words!
If your document looks wrong but you don't know how to find
the formatting element
that you inserted and now wish to delete. In WP, that is easy. Press Reveal
Codes, find the code you don't want, and delete it.
I'm with you all the way - except for the last three words!
If your document looks wrong but you don't know how to find the formatting
element
I wish people who have made some of the comments actually had experience with
the Reveal Codes function in WP.
First, for those not familiar with it, the Reveal Codes can be turned on and
off and the amount of space (number of lines of text) it consumes on the screen
is under complete control
just select default formatting to clear all formatting.
Why destroy everything and start over if all that's necessary is to put the
cursor on a code and DEL
For ex, a hard page break that becomes out of place because text has been added
during editing. Click on the page break code, it's
this is
not exactly the way you want it, and so wish to make an adjustment. Your
document looks wrong but you don't know how to find the formatting element
that you inserted and now wish to delete. In WP, that is easy. Press
Reveal Codes, find the code you don't want, and delete it.
I'm with you all
If attachments work here, there will be a screen shot of WP with the Reveal
Codes window open.
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On Sunday, 20 January 2013 19:46:18, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
Why must you insist on making the writer go thru hoops to fix something
when Reveal Codes can do it for him quickly and easily? Just let us have
the capability--if *you* want to go thru those
hoops, then go ahead--I
that's the barrier so much.
- Dennis
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From: Rod Lockwood [mailto:rodlockw...@provide.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 19:15
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: reveal codes
[ ... ] Also, you can see what the formatting is at any
given point by looking
On 21/01/2013 5:51 AM, Eric Fenster wrote:
I wish people who have made some of the comments actually had experience with
the Reveal Codes function in WP.
First, for those not familiar with it, the Reveal Codes can be turned on and
off and the amount of space (number of lines of text
OpenOffice.
- Dennis
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From: Martin Groenescheij [mailto:mar...@groenescheij.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 20:28
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: reveal codes
[ ... ]
I really don't understand this rather authoritarian recommendation.
If I write
editing your text and remove the bold or remove the
word but fail to take account of what you originally did to the space following
the word, the bold code is still there, invisible. You start typing your
replacement word or additional text and it is bold, unintentionally.
With reveal codes, you see
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