Re: [videoblogging] Vlogger captures metorite crash in Western Australia
sorry markus,I got a bit mixed up with amateur footage and the fact that the guy actually sold his footage to the local station rather than posting it first. I looked on Vlogmap and the closest mapped vlogger is in Perth Australia and it isn't on his site. He's called Better Movie Making. In the spirit of vlogging I asked him on his comments, if he has any footage. I will let you know if he gets back to me.PaulOn 5 Dec 2005, at 05:52, Markus Sandy wrote: i love the video - but what makes the guy a "vlogger"? did he post this to a blog with a feed?Paul Knight wrote: HI guys, For those interested a meteorite as big as a car, came crashing to earth in western Australia, 500km from perth, leaving a sonic boom that shook buildings and smashed windows. Video is at http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/ 200512/20051204wameteor_hutchinson_clips_1.mpg bye ya'll Paul Knight Yahoo! Groups Links . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Jakob Nielson On Talking-Head Videos
My reply: http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2005/12/talking-heads-are- boring.html I'm a big fan of David Byrne and the Talking Heads. The Talking Heads are not boring. A talking head, it depends. On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:08 PM, Gena wrote: Jakob Nielson is well known in the web design community. He did an study on where viewers eyes travel on computers screen watching video. He questions if broadcast video ported to the web is a good idea. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Gabe's vlog of Les Blogs
Gabe of Xolo TV put up a vlog of the Les Blogs conference: http://www.xolo.tv/2005/12/les-blogs-and-corporate-blogging.html or http://tinyurl.com/8n6zu ;), Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Early Motion Picture Innovator -- Alice Guy Blache --
Alice Guy Blache. She's credited with making the first narrative film (a "commercial"tospark interest for the motion film cameras her boss thought were just "child's toys"), and washeavy innovatorof film color, sound and special effects. Nerissa "In 1895, Guy Blache was working as a secretary for Gaumont-Paris, a manufacturer of photographic equipment, when a chap named LOUIS LUMIERE visited the company to show off his new invention: a contraption that made still photographs appear as a series of moving pictures. Little did Lumiere know that the quiet secretary in attendance at the demonstration would take that basic idea and begin to change the world with it." http://www.cinewomenny.org/cinenews/dec02/ifshewerealive.htmlNerissa Odenhttp://TheVideoQueen.com/blog.htmlhttp://FreeVideoCoding.comhttp://FreeMediaGuide.comhttp://FreeVideoEditing.comWhere do Women get answers to their video questions?http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/videowomen/ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogger captures metorite crash in Western Australia
http://feeds.feedburner.com/BetterMovieMakingOn 12/5/05, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry markus,I got a bit mixed up with amateur footage and the fact that the guy actually sold his footage to the local station rather than posting it first. I looked on Vlogmap and the closest mapped vlogger is in Perth Australia and it isn't on his site. He's called Better Movie Making. In the spirit of vlogging I asked him on his comments, if he has any footage. I will let you know if he gets back to me. PaulOn 5 Dec 2005, at 05:52, Markus Sandy wrote: i love the video - but what makes the guy a vlogger? did he post this to a blog with a feed?Paul Knight wrote: HI guys, For those interested a meteorite as big as a car, came crashing to earth in western Australia, 500km from perth, leaving a sonic boom that shook buildings and smashed windows. Video is at http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/ 200512/20051204wameteor_hutchinson_clips_1.mpg bye ya'll Paul Knight Yahoo! Groups Links . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Use of Podsafe Music
C.C. Chapman wrote: Steve told me that some questions have come up on this list about use of music from the PMN by members of this list so I thought I'd jump in and share my thoughts and answer any questions that you might have. If there are any other questions please ask away. I'd be happy to answer them. Any chance of using a Creative Commons license rather than the one you currently use? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] tivo_and_sony_get_into_the_game
http://www.corante.com/podcasting/2005/12/02/tivo_and_sony_get_into_the_game.php-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] A podcast is.....
An audio recording posted online, much like a short radio show.http://podcasts.yahoo.com/http://podcasts.yahoo.com/start -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] A podcast is.....
Michael Sullivan wrote: An audio recording posted online, much like a short radio show. http://podcasts.yahoo.com/ http://podcasts.yahoo.com/start No it's not. (Let the 'War on Audio' begin!) ;] Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 02:32:51 +0100, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is interesting. its a list of known blogs circa 2000: http://www.jjg.net/retired/portal/tpoowl.html I'm not on it! I got my first Blogger blog in October 2000, and if I had one a ton of other people had them. That list looks like the A-list. :o) I am... Under 'ye olde skool' is 'rasterweb' By 2000 some of us had been at it for more than 2 years. ;) Of course, I'm not exactly an A-lister, just an early adopter. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
Jay dedman wrote: there is a difference between the personal videoblogs and the show videoblogs. personal videoblgs cant really be categorized because they are about anything the person wants (like blogging). the show videolbogs are easy to categorize becasue they are like mini-tv shows (a tech show, a skater show...) I'm starting to wonder if some of the personal videoblogs really are (or could be) 'shows' in the way they feature a single person, and whatever that person is/does/etc... Are the videoblogs (can we call them that?) of Kevin Smith or Zach Braff deal with them and what they do. These seem personal rather than 'show-like' but I'm also thinking of podcasts like The Dawn Drew Show, where, I suppose it's a show, but it's also just about whatever the hell they did that particular day. Does a show have to have a theme, or a regular schedule, or a defined format, or...? Where and how will crossovers happen? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] A podcast is.....
Quoting Wikipedia: Podcasting is a term used to describe a collection of technologies for automatically distributing audio and video programmes over the Internet using a publisher/subscriber model. It differs from earlier online collections of audio or video works because it automatically transfers the files to the user's computer for later use; it is one example of push technology. On Dec 5, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Pete Prodoehl wrote: No it's not. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
On Dec 5, 2005, at 10:40 AM, Pete Prodoehl wrote: Jay dedman wrote: there is a difference between the personal videoblogs and the show videoblogs. personal videoblgs cant really be categorized because they are about anything the person wants (like blogging). the show videolbogs are easy to categorize becasue they are like mini-tv shows (a tech show, a skater show...) I'm starting to wonder if some of the personal videoblogs really are (or could be) 'shows' in the way they feature a single person, and whatever that person is/does/etc... This is more in-line with my take on it. By making your video public, you are showing it. Even fine artists have shows. Musicians have shows. I can't help but think that someone who walks around pointing a camera at them-self and then puts that up for the world to see is a show. I understand however the rejection of the word as it applies to this particular medium when people feel it may indicate something contrived, or planned out, when in most cases it does. Even when people capture something accidentally, they tend to make decisions from there about whether or not to show it or how to edit it to show it, etc. Even if there is no intention behind the videoblogger to show, isn't that what's happening? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] A podcast is.....
Steve Garfield wrote: Quoting Wikipedia: Podcasting is a term used to describe a collection of technologies for automatically distributing audio and video programmes over the Internet using a publisher/subscriber model. It differs from earlier online collections of audio or video works because it automatically transfers the files to the user's computer for later use; it is one example of push technology. After what's been happening in the last week, you expect us to believe the Wikipedia? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: vodcasts in cellphones
Jay dedman wrote: In the US, does anyone do anything on their phone other than talk on it. I send a SMS message maybe once every six months. I take photos with my phone, use it as an alarm clock and calendar, play games on it, shoot video, get my AIM messages forwarded to me when I'm not logged on, get/send SMS messages, keep a to-do list and notes on it, use it as a flashlight, and occasionally make phone calls. I also loaded an episode of Rocketboom on it 6 months ago to show people what the future might look like. ;) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
I can't help but think that someone who walks around pointing a camera at them-self and then puts that up for the world to see is a show. I understand however the rejection of the word as it applies to this particular medium when people feel it may indicate something contrived, or planned out, when in most cases it does. Even when people capture something accidentally, they tend to make decisions from there about whether or not to show it or how to edit it to show it, etc. Even if there is no intention behind the videoblogger to show, isn't that what's happening? I use the word show in the sense of TV show. in the sense that it has a format, a expected host, and is trying to appeal to large audiences. it certainly has worked for TV...so why should people not use this formula for videoblogging if these are the desired goals? when i say personal videoblogs, i guess i mean more of a diary format. yes, i am often the star of my videos...and it can be like a show... but i also have no format...its more like a scrap album that will only have value in the future. That new rockNroll videoblog. what is it about? music. has a nice format. its cool. great to download the video iPod for wacthing on the subway. this couple can now reach a huge audince with no permission from anyone. i liked that video they showed recently of the guy getting kicked in the balls by the girls in bikinies. My videoblog. what is it about? probably me. or not...i also post a lot of text. as a blogger, im not just using my blog to make an RSS feed of videos...i also use my blog to link to things i find on the web. video just allows me to expand what i can share with people. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] I'm teaching at the Apple store!
Holy crap, I'm on their website now!! http://www.apple.com/retail/willowbend/week/20051204.html My class is this Saturday, from 3-4pm, with time for questions afterwards. If you have any friends in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, SEND THEM! :) Also, before I've even made my first presentation, the lead instructor at the store has asked me to make this a monthly gig--he wants me to pick a January date!! So I think I'm going to tell him Jan. 14th, and maybe even Feb. 11th. This ROCKS! I am so excited! Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] interesting use of a video podcast
Paul Sanchez sent me a link to an interesting video podcast for an independent film http://foureyedmonsters.com/video_podcast/ very nice vlog thanks paul! good catch -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
ahhh, the joy of language.many personal video journals may contain an individual 'putting on a show'. it may be them and it may be true to form, but you have to admit that once you are doing self-video, people will have tendencies to not be a total bore... hell, even socially anywhere, people will try to not be boring and maybe jazz themselves up. its natural. so, isnt it all a show? politicians... a show.your co-workers a showyour boss a showthe pope...a showyour self... a showthere was a time when a show like Jackass was not considered a 'show'. reality tv initially came about to be the anti-show. now its popular mainstream TV... all shows.but, my point may lead to this... a show is something that tries to be entertaining.a corporate business meeting... an accountant explaining numbers and codes training seminars all most likely to bore you to death. if its within a videoblog form the word 'show' would be hard to use. they would just be videos. i am really reaching here... forgive. but might as well add to the confusion of this mixed-up thread.making directories what else is their to say on that? anyone?sull On 12/5/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help but think that someone who walks around pointing a camera at them-self and then puts that up for the world to see is a show. I understand however the rejection of the word as it applies to this particular medium when people feel it may indicate something contrived, or planned out, when in most cases it does. Even when people capture something accidentally, they tend to make decisions from there about whether or not to show it or how to edit it to show it, etc. Even if there is no intention behind the videoblogger to show, isn't that what's happening? I use the word show in the sense of TV show.in the sense that it has a format, a expected host, and is trying toappeal to large audiences.it certainly has worked for TV...so why should people not use this formula for videoblogging if these are the desired goals?when i say personal videoblogs, i guess i mean more of a diary format.yes, i am often the star of my videos...and it can be like a show... but i also have no format...its more like a scrap album that will onlyhave value in the future.That new rockNroll videoblog. what is it about?music. has a nice format. its cool. great to download the video iPod for wacthing on the subway.this couple can now reach a huge audince with no permission from anyone.i liked that video they showed recently of the guy getting kicked inthe balls by the girls in bikinies. My videoblog. what is it about?probably me. or not...i also post a lot of text.as a blogger, im not just using my blog to make an RSS feed ofvideos...i also use my blog to link to things i find on the web. video just allows me to expand what i can share with people.jay--Adventures in VideobloggingURL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowinghttp://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: vodcasts in cellphones
I take photos with my phone, use it as an alarm clock and calendar, play games on it, shoot video, get my AIM messages forwarded to me when I'm not logged on, get/send SMS messages, keep a to-do list and notes on it, use it as a flashlight, and occasionally make phone calls. I also loaded an episode of Rocketboom on it 6 months ago to show people what the future might look like. ;) Me too, including the flashlight. Although I'm not in the U.S. But as you probably all know, SMS is big outside the U.S. I send maybe 3-4 SMS each day, sometimes up to 10. Regards, Richard -- Vlog: http://www.kashum.com Feed: http://www.kashum.com/rss2.xml Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: if its within a videoblog form the word 'show' would be hard to use. they would just be videos. I disagree. And so, what you are getting at here is the word blog. It is important. As you all know, I have always looked to the history of the blog when discussing format for videoblogs. How can you not when using that word? Its not personal vs. show that distinguishes the qualities that so many outspoken people here on this list focus on in order to separate all of us into two camps where one does not get to use the word videoblog' because its show. We can also leave podcasting out of it; Podcasting is a matter of fact: it is or it isn't because its based on technology (rss enclosure), not format. Videoblogging is more lose in definition because it is defined by many factors, some technologically based, and others format based. When a word is in flux based on format, then what you have is a bunch of linguistic, metaphysical referents that do not have clear borders. Like the word 'love' can not be defined. Yet, in doing our best to not speak in universals when discussing these things, we can notice patterns and attitudes, whether they are informed or not. With blogging, you have personal diaries, and you have show, but there is so much more that it's silly to just focus on these two. Its shortsighted because what we see now is only just the obvious. The real beauty has yet to show itself, as more and more people begin to consider these same questions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: vodcasts in cellphones
what phone do you use Pete?On 12/5/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: In the US, does anyone do anything on their phone other than talk on it. I send a SMS message maybe once every six months. I take photos with my phone, use it as an alarm clock and calendar, play games on it, shoot video, get my AIM messages forwarded to me when I'm not logged on, get/send SMS messages, keep a to-do list and notes on it, use it as a flashlight, and occasionally make phone calls. I also loaded an episode of Rocketboom on it 6 months ago to show people what the future might look like. ;) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] A podcast is.....
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:02:09 +0100, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An audio recording posted online, much like a short radio show. ... or a really fucking long one. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
but what part of what i said do you disagree with, specifically?thanks.On 12/5/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: if its within a videoblog form the word 'show' would be hard to use.they would just be videos.I disagree. And so, what you are getting at here is the word blog.It is important. As you all know, I have always looked to the history of the blog when discussing format for videoblogs. How can younot when using that word?Its not personal vs. show that distinguishes the qualities that somany outspoken people here on this list focus on in order to separate all of us into two camps where one does not get to use the wordvideoblog' because its show. We can also leave podcasting out ofit; Podcasting is a matter of fact: it is or it isn't because its based on technology (rss enclosure), not format.Videoblogging is more lose in definition because it is defined bymany factors, some technologically based, and others format based.When a word is in flux based on format, then what you have is a bunch of linguistic, metaphysical referents that do not have clearborders. Like the word 'love' can not be defined.Yet, in doing our best to not speak in universals when discussingthese things, we can notice patterns and attitudes, whether they are informed or not.With blogging, you have personal diaries, and you have show, butthere is so much more that it's silly to just focus on these two. Itsshortsighted because what we see now is only just the obvious. The real beauty has yet to show itself, as more and more people begin toconsider these same questions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
i see... you took the ending of my point and excluded the beginning.so, its out of context. in talking specifically about the word 'show', i pointed out that it would be hard to call a corporate internal videoblog of boring meetings a 'show'. might not be a practical example, but just making a point about the relationship of the words 'show' and 'entertainment'sullOn 12/5/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:but what part of what i said do you disagree with, specifically? thanks.On 12/5/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: if its within a videoblog form the word 'show' would be hard to use.they would just be videos.I disagree. And so, what you are getting at here is the word blog. It is important. As you all know, I have always looked to the history of the blog when discussing format for videoblogs. How can younot when using that word?Its not personal vs. show that distinguishes the qualities that somany outspoken people here on this list focus on in order to separate all of us into two camps where one does not get to use the wordvideoblog' because its show. We can also leave podcasting out ofit; Podcasting is a matter of fact: it is or it isn't because its based on technology (rss enclosure), not format.Videoblogging is more lose in definition because it is defined bymany factors, some technologically based, and others format based.When a word is in flux based on format, then what you have is a bunch of linguistic, metaphysical referents that do not have clearborders. Like the word 'love' can not be defined.Yet, in doing our best to not speak in universals when discussingthese things, we can notice patterns and attitudes, whether they are informed or not.With blogging, you have personal diaries, and you have show, butthere is so much more that it's silly to just focus on these two. Itsshortsighted because what we see now is only just the obvious. The real beauty has yet to show itself, as more and more people begin toconsider these same questions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] interesting use of a video podcast
This looks good, nice find!On 12/5/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Sanchez sent me a link to an interesting video podcast for an independent film http://foureyedmonsters.com/video_podcast/ very nice vlog thanks paul! good catch -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
I just dont see why it would be difficult to use the word "show" in context of a videoblog. What are your thoughts on this?On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: but what part of what i said do you disagree with, specifically?thanks.On 12/5/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: if its within a videoblog form the word 'show' would be hard to use. they would just be videos.I disagree. And so, what you are getting at here is the word "blog".It is important. As you all know, I have always looked to the history of "the blog" when discussing "format" for videoblogs. How can younot when using that word?Its not "personal vs. show" that distinguishes the qualities that somany outspoken people here on this list focus on in order to separate all of us into two camps where one does not get to use the word"videoblog' because its show. We can also leave "podcasting" out ofit; Podcasting is a matter of fact: it is or it isn't because its based on technology (rss enclosure), not format.Videoblogging is more lose in definition because it is defined bymany factors, some technologically based, and others "format based".When a word is in flux based on "format", then what you have is a bunch of linguistic, metaphysical referents that do not have clearborders. Like the word 'love' can not be defined.Yet, in doing our best to not speak in universals when discussingthese things, we can notice patterns and attitudes, whether they are informed or not.With blogging, you have personal diaries, and you have show, butthere is so much more that it's silly to just focus on these two. Itsshortsighted because what we see now is only just the obvious. The real beauty has yet to show itself, as more and more people begin toconsider these same questions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: A podcast is.....
Not sure the point of this, but I'm assuming it is the podcast means audio not video arguemnt. Yet Yahoo has video podcasts in this directory too, so I'm not sure what this proves. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An audio recording posted online, much like a short radio show. http://podcasts.yahoo.com/ http://podcasts.yahoo.com/start -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Jakob Nielson On Talking-Head Videos
It feels good to get validation from one of the most well-respected Web analysts. This seems to be a reoccuring argument here on the boards and finally someone gives their expert opinion... The eyetracking data clearly show that a talking head is boring, even for 24 seconds. On the Web, 24 seconds is a long time -- too long for users to keep their attention on something monotonous. Lesson to be learned: If you're not showing something visually interesting, make a podcast instead. Personally, I'd much rather watch a video of someone doing something rather than just watch them talk. What does this say about news shows like Rocketboom or Mobuzz? Sure the hosts are attractive at first, but each episode feels like the same thing and their attractiveness wears off. I usually play the video in the background and listen while multi-tasking on something else. Matter of fact, I can't remember the last time I was entertained by these talking heads. Of course, if these hosts were not semi-pretty then I wouldn't play the video at all. Just trying to be honest. Sometimes the truth hurts. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Not really suppose to be doing this - finishing up on my class presentation (down to my last three paragraphs) but I came across an interesting page on http://www.useit.com/alertbox/video.html Jakob Nielson is well known in the web design community. He did an study on where viewers eyes travel on computers screen watching video. He questions if broadcast video ported to the web is a good idea. I'll let you read the article for yourself but I think he makes excellent points. Many of them in our favor. Later, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: vodcasts in cellphones
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Re: [videoblogging] making directories
Let's extend the show analogy a bit... To me, most videoblogs are *segments*. Only when you have multiple segments, does it become a *show*. I view *show* in this context as much more of a container than simply anything. That's just my opinion on it, and my knee-jerk, though. andrew michael baron wrote: I just dont see why it would be difficult to use the word show in context of a videoblog. What are your thoughts on this? On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: but what part of what i said do you disagree with, specifically? thanks. On 12/5/05, *andrew michael baron* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: if its within a videoblog form the word 'show' would be hard to use. they would just be videos. I disagree. And so, what you are getting at here is the word blog. It is important. As you all know, I have always looked to the history of the blog when discussing format for videoblogs. How can you not when using that word? Its not personal vs. show that distinguishes the qualities that so many outspoken people here on this list focus on in order to separate all of us into two camps where one does not get to use the word videoblog' because its show. We can also leave podcasting out of it; Podcasting is a matter of fact: it is or it isn't because its based on technology (rss enclosure), not format. Videoblogging is more lose in definition because it is defined by many factors, some technologically based, and others format based. When a word is in flux based on format, then what you have is a bunch of linguistic, metaphysical referents that do not have clear borders. Like the word 'love' can not be defined. Yet, in doing our best to not speak in universals when discussing these things, we can notice patterns and attitudes, whether they are informed or not. With blogging, you have personal diaries, and you have show, but there is so much more that it's silly to just focus on these two. Its shortsighted because what we see now is only just the obvious. The real beauty has yet to show itself, as more and more people begin to consider these same questions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/ vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (602) 885-2295 - Mobile (480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo!
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
Ok, I follow you now. This is pretty funny. I definitely misunderstood.I was reading along and when I came to this part:"a show is something that tries to be entertaining.a corporate business meeting... an accountant explaining numbers and codes training seminars all most likely to bore you to death. "And then I thought to myself: "But they are shows! A corporate meeting tries to be entertaining". I went on to consider the amazing possibilities of showing numbers and codes to other people, with pretty graphs and stuff, and while I suppose that kinda actually happens to other people every once in a while, I agree it was pretty far reaching on part to think the rest of the world acts like that with their intentions.On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: i see... you took the ending of my point and excluded the beginning.so, its out of context. in talking specifically about the word 'show', i pointed out that it would be hard to call a corporate internal videoblog of boring meetings a 'show'. might not be a practical example, but just making a point about the relationship of the words 'show' and 'entertainment'sullOn 12/5/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:but what part of what i said do you disagree with, specifically? thanks.On 12/5/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: if its within a videoblog form the word 'show' would be hard to use. they would just be videos.I disagree. And so, what you are getting at here is the word "blog". It is important. As you all know, I have always looked to the history of "the blog" when discussing "format" for videoblogs. How can younot when using that word?Its not "personal vs. show" that distinguishes the qualities that somany outspoken people here on this list focus on in order to separate all of us into two camps where one does not get to use the word"videoblog' because its show. We can also leave "podcasting" out ofit; Podcasting is a matter of fact: it is or it isn't because its based on technology (rss enclosure), not format.Videoblogging is more lose in definition because it is defined bymany factors, some technologically based, and others "format based".When a word is in flux based on "format", then what you have is a bunch of linguistic, metaphysical referents that do not have clearborders. Like the word 'love' can not be defined.Yet, in doing our best to not speak in universals when discussingthese things, we can notice patterns and attitudes, whether they are informed or not.With blogging, you have personal diaries, and you have show, butthere is so much more that it's silly to just focus on these two. Itsshortsighted because what we see now is only just the obvious. The real beauty has yet to show itself, as more and more people begin toconsider these same questions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
again, I am not suggesting that. my point is much more narrow than what you are interpreting.On 12/5/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just dont see why it would be difficult to use the word show in context of a videoblog. What are your thoughts on this?On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: but what part of what i said do you disagree with, specifically?thanks.On 12/5/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: if its within a videoblog form the word 'show' would be hard to use.they would just be videos.I disagree. And so, what you are getting at here is the word blog. It is important. As you all know, I have always looked to the history of the blog when discussing format for videoblogs. How can younot when using that word?Its not personal vs. show that distinguishes the qualities that so many outspoken people here on this list focus on in order to separate all of us into two camps where one does not get to use the wordvideoblog' because its show. We can also leave podcasting out of it; Podcasting is a matter of fact: it is or it isn't because its based on technology (rss enclosure), not format.Videoblogging is more lose in definition because it is defined bymany factors, some technologically based, and others format based. When a word is in flux based on format, then what you have is a bunch of linguistic, metaphysical referents that do not have clearborders. Like the word 'love' can not be defined.Yet, in doing our best to not speak in universals when discussing these things, we can notice patterns and attitudes, whether they are informed or not.With blogging, you have personal diaries, and you have show, butthere is so much more that it's silly to just focus on these two. Its shortsighted because what we see now is only just the obvious. The real beauty has yet to show itself, as more and more people begin toconsider these same questions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: I'm teaching at the Apple store!
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy crap, I'm on their website now!! http://www.apple.com/retail/willowbend/week/20051204.html My class is this Saturday, from 3-4pm, with time for questions afterwards. If you have any friends in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, SEND THEM! :) Also, before I've even made my first presentation, the lead instructor at the store has asked me to make this a monthly gig--he wants me to pick a January date!! So I think I'm going to tell him Jan. 14th, and maybe even Feb. 11th. This ROCKS! I am so excited! Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com Wow, congrats. You're a leader. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
I think show vs. personal diary may be the wrong way to put it.Really it comes down to the intent of the creator and their goals in terms of reaching an audience.Some people make stuff for a generalized (and thus larger) audience. This type of content needs to be entertaining or somehow have value that is in demand by a rather general demographic. Some people make stuff for a very specific target audience. This could be specific information like Sull has pointed out (board meetings), or it could be stuff that I want to share with friends and family. Some people could give a shit about an audience. They only care about making the stuff and putting it online. They are satisfied simply with that. That's fine... but just because you can say or do whatever you want doesn't entitle you to an audience. Now, all this gets a little blurry because its happening in public form on the Internet. So, some audiences can change rapidly and sometimes unexpectedly. Sometimes things intended for a specific taget audience can suddenly bubble up and reach millions... e.g. there's been a Wendy's fast food employee training video that has been passed around the Net for a couple years. Do you think they had any idea that would get out of the bag when it was only meant to be seen by new Wendy's employees? Is that a show? Not really, though it does appeal to a larger audience than they had originally intended. Or for a more vloggy example, take Ryanne's videoblog for instance... She's been covered in the mainstream media and reaches sometimes thousands of viewers, but really is hardly ever making anything intended for an audience greater than her friends and family... sometimes its not even for them, but just for herself. So it really comes down to intent of the creator and their goals for reaching an audience... or not.-joshOn 12/5/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i see... you took the ending of my point and excluded the beginning.so, its out of context. in talking specifically about the word 'show', i pointed out that it would be hard to call a corporate internal videoblog of boring meetings a 'show'. might not be a practical example, but just making a point about the relationship of the words 'show' and 'entertainment'sull On 12/5/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but what part of what i said do you disagree with, specifically? thanks.On 12/5/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: if its within a videoblog form the word 'show' would be hard to use.they would just be videos.I disagree. And so, what you are getting at here is the word blog. It is important. As you all know, I have always looked to the history of the blog when discussing format for videoblogs. How can younot when using that word?Its not personal vs. show that distinguishes the qualities that somany outspoken people here on this list focus on in order to separate all of us into two camps where one does not get to use the wordvideoblog' because its show. We can also leave podcasting out ofit; Podcasting is a matter of fact: it is or it isn't because its based on technology (rss enclosure), not format.Videoblogging is more lose in definition because it is defined bymany factors, some technologically based, and others format based.When a word is in flux based on format, then what you have is a bunch of linguistic, metaphysical referents that do not have clearborders. Like the word 'love' can not be defined.Yet, in doing our best to not speak in universals when discussingthese things, we can notice patterns and attitudes, whether they are informed or not.With blogging, you have personal diaries, and you have show, butthere is so much more that it's silly to just focus on these two. Itsshortsighted because what we see now is only just the obvious. The real beauty has yet to show itself, as more and more people begin toconsider these same questions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the
[videoblogging] Re: making a vlog soft
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/4/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you on a Mac or PC? -- Enric PC. WinXP. I've sent an email to the ezedia people, but I'm not actually expecting a response ... apparently they charge for support even for registered users. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Here's the link for the Quicktime 6.52 relase for windows: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime652forwindows.html I think this is the last windows version before they went to 7. This version may work for what you want to do. Though you may have to see about getting a Pro license if you didn't have one for 6 before. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: vodcasts in cellphones
I remember this one time at vlog camp... On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Richard Bennett-Forrest wrote: Me too, including the flashlight. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
I post for whoever knows or meets me, online or in life. Just IMing someone doesn't really let you get to know them all that well, but video from everyday life helps. I make short movies with some friends and I post those there also in their own seperate section, and those get the most views. I think the only movie we have up right now, Peach Tea, has something like 20x as many views as my most viewed regular vlog posting. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions?
I have a problem insofar as my Sony HC42 mini-dv camera only has a shoe on top and two clip on microphones available. I really need to have some way to get direct mick plug in. Is there some sort of wireless of plug in microphone that can be connected via the shoe on top of the camera? It's really ridiculous because the camera cost $800 last March. I really thought I had researched everything but I didn't think of the audio. I have a wireless mike for my old Hi8 camcorder. Audio is really almost 50% of good video. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: bottomunion To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:18 AM Subject: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I'm in desperate need of an external mic for a small camcorder. I've been shopping around for one, but haven't found any ones I like. This would have to be compact, and fit on a handsized camcorder, small enough to keep the whole package (camcorder and mic) small. Just throwing this out to see if anyone might have suggestions, possible solutions. Thanks.Bottom Union, Esq. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and I like a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is sort of so what. Actually, now I think that being able to transport view pictures in one's ipod is a more useful function than watching video on it. Aside from the neat-o! aspect of it, I just don't see how or why this will be the next big thing for...anyone who believes it's the next big thing, be they major media, the music industry, whatever. I get to pay for tv shows I missed? No thanks. I don't need to see ANYTHING that badly--not even Lost. Classic repeats? Nope. Got Nickelodeon, if I feel the urge. MTV? Have it. Don't really watch it, but it's there. I really don't see the value in it for vloggers (or vodcasters, or video podcasters or video bloggers, or vidmasters or whatever you want to call it...I don't wish to start that semantic argument again) aside from my boyfriend being able to keep my video visage in his pocket (which, incidently, he wouldn't watch anyhow, because he sees me all the time. I'm trying not to feel a little hurt by that ;)) I guess what I mean is that I watch tv on my tv. And I watch vlogs on my computer be they shows, personal diaries, mini-movies, series or whatever else: I have room in my heart for all styles and formats. It's a format that's computer-based. It doesn't seem to belong on my tv, or in my pocket. Perhaps because it's become such a part of my daily routine (morning coffee, refresh Fireant, save me from morning magazine-news tv programs, thank God) that I'd have a hard time doing it a different way. I can be stubborn, yes, but it can't just be me. Is it just me? Also, iTunes doesn't even have a seperate section for uploading podcasts (back off, wordmavens--I'm using podcasts for now because it's easier)with video so that one could browse around, anyway. Stuff's just stuck everywhere: public radio, arts entertainment, spoken word and whathaveyou. Sure, there's a featured video podcast section, but it's awfully small. What's a videopodvodvlogmeister to do? I assume people want to ship their vlogs over to iTunes to reach a bigger audience or make it easier for people to subscribe--correct me if I'm wrong. But why bother if no one will be able to find you? Is anyone buying these video ipods and actually using them mainly for video? When are you supposed to watch? You can't drive and watch. You can't really walk and watch. Are people really sitting in their livingrooms watching these teensy (albeit crisp and clear) screens because, I'm sorry, but that's just dopey. The only time I can think that they would be useful is on a public transportaion commute to work. Surely zillions of people outside of New York City (and Chicago, and Boston and Tokyo and wherever else there's a large train/bus/monorail contingent) are buying the little suckers. Is anyone running out to replace their music/photo ipods? Or are the majority of people buying them new users who are just buying the current model, much like I bought an ipod with photo capabilities because that's just what was available? By the time my ipod is totaly outdated I'm hoping for a portable mp3 player that can make me a sandwich. The iSnack. THAT seems useful to me. I suppose the ludddite part of me thinks that portable video is bad. Do we really need to be entertained every goddamned minute? I guess you could take your video ipod out for a nice day in the park and watch it there--but shouldn't you just be enjoying a nice day in the park? I won't bore you with my theories concerning commercials bundled in programming on video ipods (Vpods?) other than to say: any day now. Any day. Ok. I'm done. No attacking, please. Bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions?
ah Sony...yeah for some reason they decided to do away with teh Audio input on the handycams after the HC20 (I ended up paying $418 for mine)...as for wireless microphone inputs...i dont think you can connect an external mic to a camera if there is no input...wireless don't work for those... On 12/5/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a problem insofar as my Sony HC42 mini-dv camera only has a shoe on top and two clip on microphones available. I really need to have some way to get direct mick plug in. Is there some sort of wireless of plug in microphone that can be connected via the shoe on top of the camera? It's really ridiculous because the camera cost $800 last March. I really thought I had researched everything but I didn't think of the audio. I have a wireless mike for my old Hi8 camcorder. Audio is really almost 50% of good video. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: bottomunion To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:18 AM Subject: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I'm in desperate need of an external mic for a small camcorder. I've been shopping around for one, but haven't found any ones I like. This would have to be compact, and fit on a handsized camcorder, small enough to keep the whole package (camcorder and mic) small. Just throwing this out to see if anyone might have suggestions, possible solutions. Thanks.Bottom Union, Esq. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comvlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
This is only the way YOU use these technologies and does not represent everyone else's needs/desires. There are too many possibilities to go into, but I find it ironic that you see the value in portable photos but not video. The video iPod is only the first attempt at serving a market that is still being created. Sure you may not be begging for a video iPod this Christmas, but the content will catch up and the viewers will find the need - even if you do not. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and I like a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is sort of so what. Actually, now I think that being able to transport view pictures in one's ipod is a more useful function than watching video on it. Aside from the neat-o! aspect of it, I just don't see how or why this will be the next big thing for...anyone who believes it's the next big thing, be they major media, the music industry, whatever. I get to pay for tv shows I missed? No thanks. I don't need to see ANYTHING that badly--not even Lost. Classic repeats? Nope. Got Nickelodeon, if I feel the urge. MTV? Have it. Don't really watch it, but it's there. I really don't see the value in it for vloggers (or vodcasters, or video podcasters or video bloggers, or vidmasters or whatever you want to call it...I don't wish to start that semantic argument again) aside from my boyfriend being able to keep my video visage in his pocket (which, incidently, he wouldn't watch anyhow, because he sees me all the time. I'm trying not to feel a little hurt by that ;)) I guess what I mean is that I watch tv on my tv. And I watch vlogs on my computer be they shows, personal diaries, mini-movies, series or whatever else: I have room in my heart for all styles and formats. It's a format that's computer-based. It doesn't seem to belong on my tv, or in my pocket. Perhaps because it's become such a part of my daily routine (morning coffee, refresh Fireant, save me from morning magazine-news tv programs, thank God) that I'd have a hard time doing it a different way. I can be stubborn, yes, but it can't just be me. Is it just me? Also, iTunes doesn't even have a seperate section for uploading podcasts (back off, wordmavens--I'm using podcasts for now because it's easier)with video so that one could browse around, anyway. Stuff's just stuck everywhere: public radio, arts entertainment, spoken word and whathaveyou. Sure, there's a featured video podcast section, but it's awfully small. What's a videopodvodvlogmeister to do? I assume people want to ship their vlogs over to iTunes to reach a bigger audience or make it easier for people to subscribe--correct me if I'm wrong. But why bother if no one will be able to find you? Is anyone buying these video ipods and actually using them mainly for video? When are you supposed to watch? You can't drive and watch. You can't really walk and watch. Are people really sitting in their livingrooms watching these teensy (albeit crisp and clear) screens because, I'm sorry, but that's just dopey. The only time I can think that they would be useful is on a public transportaion commute to work. Surely zillions of people outside of New York City (and Chicago, and Boston and Tokyo and wherever else there's a large train/bus/monorail contingent) are buying the little suckers. Is anyone running out to replace their music/photo ipods? Or are the majority of people buying them new users who are just buying the current model, much like I bought an ipod with photo capabilities because that's just what was available? By the time my ipod is totaly outdated I'm hoping for a portable mp3 player that can make me a sandwich. The iSnack. THAT seems useful to me. I suppose the ludddite part of me thinks that portable video is bad. Do we really need to be entertained every goddamned minute? I guess you could take your video ipod out for a nice day in the park and watch it there--but shouldn't you just be enjoying a nice day in the park? I won't bore you with my theories concerning commercials bundled in programming on video ipods (Vpods?) other than to say: any day now. Any day. Ok. I'm done. No attacking, please. Bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is
[videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
No! Please go into some possibilities! That's the part I want to know! I want to know what creating this market means! Market for...???Sure, if I hadn't just gotten an ipod relatively recently I WOULD be begging for one of the new ones, although maybe not for the same reasons as others. Other people's reasons are what I'm curious about! Viewers will find the need? Okay, right on, man! But for what? Help me out, here. bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is only the way YOU use these technologies and does not represent everyone else's needs/desires. There are too many possibilities to go into, but I find it ironic that you see the value in portable photos but not video. The video iPod is only the first attempt at serving a market that is still being created. Sure you may not be begging for a video iPod this Christmas, but the content will catch up and the viewers will find the need - even if you do not. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and I like a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses "art" as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten "art" vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. "Directories" are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an "artist" or in "art class" doesn't mean thatyou make "good" art.I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the "good" backto the subject of thread please. :-)-joshOn 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions?
I have a Sony ECMHS1 mic that simply mounts onto the intelligent hot shoe on my PC110 camera. You don't need any additional connections, and the mic pattern even follows the zoom on the camera. It gets mixed reviews here, but you could try it or perhaps something newer if your sony camera has the intelligent shoe: http://www.textkit.com/0_B5T3BZ.html Randolfe Wicker wrote: I have a problem insofar as my Sony HC42 mini-dv camera only has a shoe on top and two clip on microphones available. I really need to have some way to get direct mick plug in. Is there some sort of wireless of plug in microphone that can be connected via the shoe on top of the camera? It's really ridiculous because the camera cost $800 last March. I really thought I had researched everything but I didn't think of the audio. I have a wireless mike for my old Hi8 camcorder. Audio is really almost 50% of good video. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - *From:* bottomunion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:18 AM *Subject:* [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I'm in desperate need of an external mic for a small camcorder. I've been shopping around for one, but haven't found any ones I like. This would have to be compact, and fit on a handsized camcorder, small enough to keep the whole package (camcorder and mic) small. Just throwing this out to see if anyone might have suggestions, possible solutions. Thanks. Bottom Union, Esq. SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] IPod Video Dating
I checked this link out. What was interesting is that I clicked twenty pictures before finding the first one that had video on it. It just shows how few people know about posting video onto the Internet. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Michael I To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] IPod Video Dating does it get any better than this?andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . .with tags!http://www.poddater.com/MIck Ihttp://www.idvfilms.blogspot.comhttp://www.idvfilms.comAloha Yahoo! PersonalsLet fate take it's course directly to your email.See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
Basically anyone who uses the existing podcast features may want to have video rather than just audio. Travelers for one. They may want to use their (soon-to-be-available) Tivo-2-Go service to dump recorded shows down to their portable device. Then there would be no need to buy 'Lost' from iTunes if you have Tivo and could transfer it. Another option would be for tour guide stuff. For example, you could get info on places to eat/shop/drink in NYC from a local vlogger. Personally, I do not have much of a need either, but I recognize this as having huge potential. I'm a big fan of themed content and don't really care for personal-diary style stuff. Even the people I do know are hard to watch do nothing. The biggest reason I could justify buying a video iPod would be to take it out and share video with others. Basically it comes down to this. Rather than being limited to recieving video on your television or computer, you could take it anywhere once it is on the iPod. That makes you a walking media center. You could plug it into any TV or PC and watch it there. Rumor has it that Apple is working on wireless for the iPod so that you really could broadcaster to others around you. Again, the content isn't really here yet. Or at least not enough of it or the type of content to justify my purchase. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No! Please go into some possibilities! That's the part I want to know! I want to know what creating this market means! Market for...???Sure, if I hadn't just gotten an ipod relatively recently I WOULD be begging for one of the new ones, although maybe not for the same reasons as others. Other people's reasons are what I'm curious about! Viewers will find the need? Okay, right on, man! But for what? Help me out, here. bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is only the way YOU use these technologies and does not represent everyone else's needs/desires. There are too many possibilities to go into, but I find it ironic that you see the value in portable photos but not video. The video iPod is only the first attempt at serving a market that is still being created. Sure you may not be begging for a video iPod this Christmas, but the content will catch up and the viewers will find the need - even if you do not. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and I like a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Petertheman says: "Second: we as vloggers, for some reason, aren't really linking a lotto each other's videos. I'm not sure why that is." I think linking is frequently done on the basis that the more links you put on your site, the more hits you get. For that reason, at least with websites, you link to anyone who will link back to you. I have noticed some vloggers who have great vlogs and who link to others who have outstanding vlogs. However, I also have seen people with a long list of links that are essentially meaningless. Someone should develop "explained" linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: petertheman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: making directories You're assuming that the lact of a directory is a problem.Here's my view. First, with video, you need a lot more info to decide where to putyour attention than with text, because video demands more attention(you can't just quickly scan it like a text post, for example). So forvideo, you need more filters, metadata, information that helps youdecide what to put your limited attention towards. It's an attentionwar. Hence, directories can be useful.Second: we as vloggers, for some reason, aren't really linking a lotto each other's videos. I'm not sure why that is. But it does meanthat we have less interlinking than textbloggers to help peoplediscover new stuff. Hence, a directory makes sense, again.Third: search for video is an unsolved problem, and will continue tobe, especially for our type of long tail video. Hence, .. you get thepicture :)Then again I could be wrong also and Google might come out with agreat algorythmic way to find videos you want to watch, or we mightall start linking like crazy to each others videos and we wouldn'tneed directories to discover cool stuff. Oh well.Peter--http://mefeedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
I dont think anybod is exactly sure of how big the portable video market will be, the stuff you point out will be true for many people. Heres some reasons I think some people will go for that stuff: Social factors - showing people you know (at school, college, work etc) video clips that you have found interesting, funny etc. This already seems to be happening where I work with mobile phones, people sending eachother silly stuff. If I was still at school or college I can well imagine loading up the ipod with the latest gems to show my peers the next day. Watching on public transport - for all we know there will be an increase in public transportation use over the coming decades, and whilst certain locations arent exactly compatible with that, I dont believe the culture of the car will necessarily last forever. (Still Im mostly a pedestrian and I certainly cant watch video whilst walking along, extremely difficult and dangerous really. Power cuts. Im not an optimist so I expect more of these in future. Watch ipod stuff on TV - I mostly watch ipod videos with it connected up to the television. There are other ways to watch stuff from the internet on the TV, but I dont like wasting blank dvds or having to leave the computer on to watch stuff on the TV. There are non-portable devices that will probably come to dominate this market, but the ipod suits me well for now. I do not necessarily think this stuff will be all that compelling to the marjority of people, I dont expect portable video to be as popular as portable music, and the technology has some way to go to offer the best possible experience (better battery, larger screen, wearable, more rugged, whatever) Anyway the portable stuff and the 'pay to download music videos, films, tv shows' could really be seen as seperate issues, Id be interested to see what proportion of people buying videos from itunes are actually watching them on the ipod. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No! Please go into some possibilities! That's the part I want to know! I want to know what creating this market means! Market for...???Sure, if I hadn't just gotten an ipod relatively recently I WOULD be begging for one of the new ones, although maybe not for the same reasons as others. Other people's reasons are what I'm curious about! Viewers will find the need? Okay, right on, man! But for what? Help me out, here. bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is only the way YOU use these technologies and does not represent everyone else's needs/desires. There are too many possibilities to go into, but I find it ironic that you see the value in portable photos but not video. The video iPod is only the first attempt at serving a market that is still being created. Sure you may not be begging for a video iPod this Christmas, but the content will catch up and the viewers will find the need - even if you do not. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and I like a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
I'd buy one for the video. Ever take public transportation? Ever sit in a waiting room? Ever have to sit and wait for anything? Portable video can make those moments a little more bearable. Plus the fact that it would be a good link between my computer and my TV with the TV out functions and all. I have an old audio iPod but I'd rather have one that plays video. Of course debating if an ipod that does video will or won't be a success is kind of moot now. It already is. And I can apprecheate the fact that it's created a whole new audiance that is interested in searching out new video content. I had the experience of meeting someone last weekend who had started watching my video blog because he won a free video ipod and went looking for video content for it. The only free content for it now is video podcasts or video blogs. I don't think that his experience will be unique. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and I like a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is sort of so what. Actually, now I think that being able to transport view pictures in one's ipod is a more useful function than watching video on it. Aside from the neat-o! aspect of it, I just don't see how or why this will be the next big thing for...anyone who believes it's the next big thing, be they major media, the music industry, whatever. I get to pay for tv shows I missed? No thanks. I don't need to see ANYTHING that badly--not even Lost. Classic repeats? Nope. Got Nickelodeon, if I feel the urge. MTV? Have it. Don't really watch it, but it's there. I really don't see the value in it for vloggers (or vodcasters, or video podcasters or video bloggers, or vidmasters or whatever you want to call it...I don't wish to start that semantic argument again) aside from my boyfriend being able to keep my video visage in his pocket (which, incidently, he wouldn't watch anyhow, because he sees me all the time. I'm trying not to feel a little hurt by that ;)) I guess what I mean is that I watch tv on my tv. And I watch vlogs on my computer be they shows, personal diaries, mini-movies, series or whatever else: I have room in my heart for all styles and formats. It's a format that's computer-based. It doesn't seem to belong on my tv, or in my pocket. Perhaps because it's become such a part of my daily routine (morning coffee, refresh Fireant, save me from morning magazine-news tv programs, thank God) that I'd have a hard time doing it a different way. I can be stubborn, yes, but it can't just be me. Is it just me? Also, iTunes doesn't even have a seperate section for uploading podcasts (back off, wordmavens--I'm using podcasts for now because it's easier)with video so that one could browse around, anyway. Stuff's just stuck everywhere: public radio, arts entertainment, spoken word and whathaveyou. Sure, there's a featured video podcast section, but it's awfully small. What's a videopodvodvlogmeister to do? I assume people want to ship their vlogs over to iTunes to reach a bigger audience or make it easier for people to subscribe--correct me if I'm wrong. But why bother if no one will be able to find you? Is anyone buying these video ipods and actually using them mainly for video? When are you supposed to watch? You can't drive and watch. You can't really walk and watch. Are people really sitting in their livingrooms watching these teensy (albeit crisp and clear) screens because, I'm sorry, but that's just dopey. The only time I can think that they would be useful is on a public transportaion commute to work. Surely zillions of people outside of New York City (and Chicago, and Boston and Tokyo and wherever else there's a large train/bus/monorail contingent) are buying the little suckers. Is anyone running out to replace their music/photo ipods? Or are the majority of people buying them new users who are just buying the current model, much like I bought an ipod with photo capabilities because that's just what was available? By the time my ipod is totaly outdated I'm hoping for a portable mp3 player that can make me a sandwich. The iSnack. THAT seems useful to me. I suppose the ludddite part of me thinks that portable video is bad. Do we really need to be entertained every goddamned minute? I guess you could take your video ipod out for a nice day in the park and watch it there--but shouldn't you just be enjoying a nice day in the park? I won't bore you with my theories concerning commercials bundled in programming on video ipods (Vpods?) other than to say: any day now. Any day. Ok. I'm done. No attacking, please. Bekah
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[videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
67% of my subscriptions for my Tech Alley videoblog are from iTunues. -- Enric http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and I like a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is sort of so what. Actually, now I think that being able to transport view pictures in one's ipod is a more useful function than watching video on it. Aside from the neat-o! aspect of it, I just don't see how or why this will be the next big thing for...anyone who believes it's the next big thing, be they major media, the music industry, whatever. I get to pay for tv shows I missed? No thanks. I don't need to see ANYTHING that badly--not even Lost. Classic repeats? Nope. Got Nickelodeon, if I feel the urge. MTV? Have it. Don't really watch it, but it's there. I really don't see the value in it for vloggers (or vodcasters, or video podcasters or video bloggers, or vidmasters or whatever you want to call it...I don't wish to start that semantic argument again) aside from my boyfriend being able to keep my video visage in his pocket (which, incidently, he wouldn't watch anyhow, because he sees me all the time. I'm trying not to feel a little hurt by that ;)) I guess what I mean is that I watch tv on my tv. And I watch vlogs on my computer be they shows, personal diaries, mini-movies, series or whatever else: I have room in my heart for all styles and formats. It's a format that's computer-based. It doesn't seem to belong on my tv, or in my pocket. Perhaps because it's become such a part of my daily routine (morning coffee, refresh Fireant, save me from morning magazine-news tv programs, thank God) that I'd have a hard time doing it a different way. I can be stubborn, yes, but it can't just be me. Is it just me? Also, iTunes doesn't even have a seperate section for uploading podcasts (back off, wordmavens--I'm using podcasts for now because it's easier)with video so that one could browse around, anyway. Stuff's just stuck everywhere: public radio, arts entertainment, spoken word and whathaveyou. Sure, there's a featured video podcast section, but it's awfully small. What's a videopodvodvlogmeister to do? I assume people want to ship their vlogs over to iTunes to reach a bigger audience or make it easier for people to subscribe--correct me if I'm wrong. But why bother if no one will be able to find you? Is anyone buying these video ipods and actually using them mainly for video? When are you supposed to watch? You can't drive and watch. You can't really walk and watch. Are people really sitting in their livingrooms watching these teensy (albeit crisp and clear) screens because, I'm sorry, but that's just dopey. The only time I can think that they would be useful is on a public transportaion commute to work. Surely zillions of people outside of New York City (and Chicago, and Boston and Tokyo and wherever else there's a large train/bus/monorail contingent) are buying the little suckers. Is anyone running out to replace their music/photo ipods? Or are the majority of people buying them new users who are just buying the current model, much like I bought an ipod with photo capabilities because that's just what was available? By the time my ipod is totaly outdated I'm hoping for a portable mp3 player that can make me a sandwich. The iSnack. THAT seems useful to me. I suppose the ludddite part of me thinks that portable video is bad. Do we really need to be entertained every goddamned minute? I guess you could take your video ipod out for a nice day in the park and watch it there--but shouldn't you just be enjoying a nice day in the park? I won't bore you with my theories concerning commercials bundled in programming on video ipods (Vpods?) other than to say: any day now. Any day. Ok. I'm done. No attacking, please. Bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jakob Nielson On Talking-Head Videos
This article / research brings up an interesting question: what IS interesting to the eye from the POV of a 320 x 240 pixel rectangle? The answer is in development. Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:29 PM, mancheesemo wrote: It feels good to get validation from one of the most well-respected Web analysts. This seems to be a reoccuring argument here on the boards and finally someone gives their expert opinion... The eyetracking data clearly show that a talking head is boring, even for 24 seconds. On the Web, 24 seconds is a long time -- too long for users to keep their attention on something monotonous. Lesson to be learned: If you're not showing something visually interesting, make a podcast instead. Personally, I'd much rather watch a video of someone doing something rather than just watch them talk. What does this say about news shows like Rocketboom or Mobuzz? Sure the hosts are attractive at first, but each episode feels like the same thing and their attractiveness wears off. I usually play the video in the background and listen while multi-tasking on something else. Matter of fact, I can't remember the last time I was entertained by these talking heads. Of course, if these hosts were not semi-pretty then I wouldn't play the video at all. Just trying to be honest. Sometimes the truth hurts. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Not really suppose to be doing this - finishing up on my class presentation (down to my last three paragraphs) but I came across an interesting page on http://www.useit.com/alertbox/video.html Jakob Nielson is well known in the web design community. He did an study on where viewers eyes travel on computers screen watching video. He questions if broadcast video ported to the web is a good idea. I'll let you read the article for yourself but I think he makes excellent points. Many of them in our favor. Later, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
1. iPod Gym. Short workouts available on your iPod. Take it anywhere. 2. Tutorial Videos. Shopping list videos (show the clerk at the store the THING you can't explain) 3. Mass transit not good enough? How about the zillions who bum rides? 4. Things for the passengers in your car 5. Slideshows and presentations. In your pocket. 6. Music videos. I have a playlist of stuff I listen to over and over on my audio playlists. I love music videos. In my pocket, more convenient than TV (I occasionally lose the battle of MTV viewage vs. Dora the Explorer) 7. Portable video = also all the LCD screens in minivans and SUVs... in the headrests, flipping down from the ceiling. Passengers. 8. Examples of personal video as an evangelism tool. 9. Porn. 10. Viral videos 11. Commercials (commercials can be a cultural and entertainment phenom.. I'd love to get my favorite commercials... that's why there are/were ad sites. The dirty secret of TiVo... some people watch commercials OVER again in case they missed it) 12. Travel guides/portable documentaries 13. Games (sure why not, visual choose-your-own-adventures/treasure hunts) 14. Geocaching 2.0 15. Favorite *any*things... like your favorite paperback you keep in the car 16. Also music videos can be played like music 17. Rocketboom 18. Happy Tree Friends 19. Zadi Diaz Okay, I'm done. But I don't know why I find videoblogs in iTunes when I'm searching for music. Maybe it's a bug? And while I might not be always in the mood for participatory consumption, I certainly *collect* media for my own personal collection. That could lead to a scalable economy. If any of my favorite vloggers released a different/improved/special kind of content, would I buy it? Well, *I* would. And I could still use the iPod as an evangelism tool. Oh and yes, photos are huge on the iPod. So are short clips from the birthday party of my son that his grandma keeps on her iPod. Culturally, that's something conceptually new instead of the photos in your wallet, it's the videos in your wallet. I also have no idea why in public, people gather around an ipod to watch video with no sound. I mean that silly little small, crisp, gorgeous screen can't be *that* compelling. ;-) I'm part of the dopey crowd. I'll go out of my way to make media that makes sense for the small screen. I'll continue to draw a crowd in public that can huddle around and watch. My parents will still watch videos of their grandkids on their ipods and my kids will watch some stuff on theirs in the car. And while it might not be able to make a sandwich, I'll certainly *show* you how to make a sandwich and give you a list of ingredients and slicing instructs that you can take to your local deli and get them to do the same. And that's part of how we change things. Although your personal mileage may vary. ER http://ericrice.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and I like a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is sort of so what. Actually, now I think that being able to transport view pictures in one's ipod is a more useful function than watching video on it. Aside from the neat-o! aspect of it, I just don't see how or why this will be the next big thing for...anyone who believes it's the next big thing, be they major media, the music industry, whatever. I get to pay for tv shows I missed? No thanks. I don't need to see ANYTHING that badly--not even Lost. Classic repeats? Nope. Got Nickelodeon, if I feel the urge. MTV? Have it. Don't really watch it, but it's there. I really don't see the value in it for vloggers (or vodcasters, or video podcasters or video bloggers, or vidmasters or whatever you want to call it...I don't wish to start that semantic argument again) aside from my boyfriend being able to keep my video visage in his pocket (which, incidently, he wouldn't watch anyhow, because he sees me all the time. I'm trying not to feel a little hurt by that ;)) I guess what I mean is that I watch tv on my tv. And I watch vlogs on my computer be they shows, personal diaries, mini-movies, series or whatever else: I have room in my heart for all styles and formats. It's a format that's computer-based. It doesn't seem to belong on my tv, or in my pocket. Perhaps because it's become such a part of my daily routine (morning coffee, refresh Fireant, save me from morning magazine-news tv programs, thank God) that I'd have a hard time doing it a different way. I can be stubborn, yes, but it can't just be me. Is it just me? Also, iTunes doesn't even have a seperate section for uploading podcasts (back off, wordmavens--I'm using podcasts for now because it's easier)with video so that one could browse around,
[videoblogging] Chuck Norris On Talking-Head Videos
I've tested and discovered that Chuck Norris IS interesting to the eye at any aspect ratio. See the results. Shameless. http://aaronvaldez.blogspot.com copiedright 2005 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This article / research brings up an interesting question: what IS interesting to the eye from the POV of a 320 x 240 pixel rectangle? The answer is in development. Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:29 PM, mancheesemo wrote: It feels good to get validation from one of the most well-respected Web analysts. This seems to be a reoccuring argument here on the boards and finally someone gives their expert opinion... The eyetracking data clearly show that a talking head is boring, even for 24 seconds. On the Web, 24 seconds is a long time -- too long for users to keep their attention on something monotonous. Lesson to be learned: If you're not showing something visually interesting, make a podcast instead. Personally, I'd much rather watch a video of someone doing something rather than just watch them talk. What does this say about news shows like Rocketboom or Mobuzz? Sure the hosts are attractive at first, but each episode feels like the same thing and their attractiveness wears off. I usually play the video in the background and listen while multi-tasking on something else. Matter of fact, I can't remember the last time I was entertained by these talking heads. Of course, if these hosts were not semi-pretty then I wouldn't play the video at all. Just trying to be honest. Sometimes the truth hurts. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Not really suppose to be doing this - finishing up on my class presentation (down to my last three paragraphs) but I came across an interesting page on http://www.useit.com/alertbox/video.html Jakob Nielson is well known in the web design community. He did an study on where viewers eyes travel on computers screen watching video. He questions if broadcast video ported to the web is a good idea. I'll let you read the article for yourself but I think he makes excellent points. Many of them in our favor. Later, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
Funny you mention it. I brought this up a few months ago in a video conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system. You can only digg something, which is a good thing. A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system). It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.com and he go VC money for it. Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] interesting use of a video podcast
What is the purpose for podcast installments like this? Is it to develop a "following" that will ultimately turn into box office sales? Or is this just an extended pitch to interest backers in financing or purchasing the movie? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: [videoblogging] interesting use of a video podcast Paul Sanchez sent me a link to an interesting "video podcast" for an independent filmhttp://foureyedmonsters.com/video_podcast/very nice vlogthanks paul! good catch-- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.ushttp://apperceptions.orghttp://digitaldojo.blogspot.comhttp://spinflow.orghttp://wearethemedia.comhttp://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]skype: msandyspin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
i am exploring the digg model as well.kinda hard to ignore.its simple at its core. thats usually a good thing.i have something partially in place.also, matt, no worry. months before you came around, the anti-ratings mentality was even stronger. it was a simpler time ;-) but now most realize that filtering is really the big big issue these days... whether or not it offends a purists point of view. sullOn 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it.I brought this up a few months ago in a videoconference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system andpopularity contest.I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system.You can only digg something, which is a good thing.Asubmission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way togive negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software.After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due toa lack of support (and the complexity of the system).It was probablyfor the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.comand he go VC money for it.Matter of fact, Digg is now rivalingSlashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts.-Matt---http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.comhttp://vlogmap.org--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com . It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example.That is a very good choice.I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring.Then I see one which simply blows me away.Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us.You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material.You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless.An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directoriesJust because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a..Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b..To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c..Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.--- --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - -
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has thought of this. But I do think it would work better for individual postings rather than entire video blogs. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it. I brought this up a few months ago in a video conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system. You can only digg something, which is a good thing. A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system). It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.com and he go VC money for it. Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one- paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
[videoblogging] Re: Chuck Norris On Talking-Head Videos
You flinched!!! It's only Monday afternoon, and I think this post is my Post Of The Week. (not that I've ever had a post of the week..but no time like the present, I guess.) I mean, you can't go wrong with Chuck Norris... even Steven Segal knows that. schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://bayarea.node101.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, valdez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tested and discovered that Chuck Norris IS interesting to the eye at any aspect ratio. See the results. Shameless. http://aaronvaldez.blogspot.com copiedright 2005 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This article / research brings up an interesting question: what IS interesting to the eye from the POV of a 320 x 240 pixel rectangle? The answer is in development. Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:29 PM, mancheesemo wrote: It feels good to get validation from one of the most well-respected Web analysts. This seems to be a reoccuring argument here on the boards and finally someone gives their expert opinion... The eyetracking data clearly show that a talking head is boring, even for 24 seconds. On the Web, 24 seconds is a long time -- too long for users to keep their attention on something monotonous. Lesson to be learned: If you're not showing something visually interesting, make a podcast instead. Personally, I'd much rather watch a video of someone doing something rather than just watch them talk. What does this say about news shows like Rocketboom or Mobuzz? Sure the hosts are attractive at first, but each episode feels like the same thing and their attractiveness wears off. I usually play the video in the background and listen while multi-tasking on something else. Matter of fact, I can't remember the last time I was entertained by these talking heads. Of course, if these hosts were not semi-pretty then I wouldn't play the video at all. Just trying to be honest. Sometimes the truth hurts. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Not really suppose to be doing this - finishing up on my class presentation (down to my last three paragraphs) but I came across an interesting page on http://www.useit.com/alertbox/video.html Jakob Nielson is well known in the web design community. He did an study on where viewers eyes travel on computers screen watching video. He questions if broadcast video ported to the web is a good idea. I'll let you read the article for yourself but I think he makes excellent points. Many of them in our favor. Later, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Making directories
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone should develop explained linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? well... i s'pose you could use the 'title' attribute with your 'a href.' something like this-- a href=http://jonnygoldstein.com/; title=Great humor!Jonny Goldstein/a that way, whenever anyone moves their cursor over the Jonny Goldstein link, a little box pops up as a tooltip containing the words 'Great humor!' more at: http://tinyurl.com/6uo99 -- xo philip http://swordfight.org videoblog http://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vlog http://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] spielberg, doin' it for the kids
http://tinyurl.com/8vslt ~~ The director also discussed another film project he is initiating in February, in which he is buying 250 video cameras and players and giving them to Israeli and Palestinian children so that they can make movies about their own lives. Not dramas, Spielberg said, just little documentaries about who they are and what they believe in, who their parents are, where they go to school, what they had to eat, what movies they watch, what CDs they listen to. ~~ Steve should tell those kids that they'd get more viewers if they made actual 'shows.' -- xo philip http://swordfight.org videoblog http://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vlog http://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions?
Thanks teaspace, I bought this mike. It really isn't very good. Actually, I paid $69 for it at BH a few months ago. On zoom, it helps a wee bit but "shotgun" makes the sound terrible. You are better off not using it at all. There is another mike that sells (lists) for about $150 and I'm not sure if that is just more of the "bad" stuff. Maybe, to get good sound, I'll just have to get a 3-chip camera with a mike jack. I don't like them because they are so large. Big cameras are intimidating. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: teaspace To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I have a Sony ECMHS1 mic that simply mounts onto the intelligent hot shoe on my PC110 camera. You don't need any additional connections, and the mic pattern even follows the zoom on the camera.It gets mixed reviews here, but you could try it or perhaps something newer if your sony camera has the intelligent shoe:http://www.textkit.com/0_B5T3BZ.htmlRandolfe Wicker wrote: I have a problem insofar as my Sony HC42 mini-dv camera only has a shoe on top and two clip on microphones available. I really need to have some way to get direct mick plug in. Is there some sort of wireless of plug in microphone that can be connected via the shoe on top of the camera? It's really ridiculous because the camera cost $800 last March. I really thought I had researched everything but I didn't think of the audio. I have a wireless mike for my old Hi8 camcorder. Audio is really almost 50% of good video. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - *From:* bottomunion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:18 AM *Subject:* [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I'm in desperate need of an external mic for a small camcorder. I've been shopping around for one, but haven't found any ones I like. This would have to be compact, and fit on a handsized camcorder, small enough to keep the whole package (camcorder and mic) small. Just throwing this out to see if anyone might have suggestions, possible solutions. Thanks. Bottom Union, Esq. SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging" on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Making directories
I use Wordpress and it allows you to ad comments to each link. But I don't use this feature, I opt to categorize my links. So I guess that accomplishes kind of the same thing. One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? I rarely if ever visit any actual video blog unless I'm commenting and the comment pages of most blogs don't show the links. It seems that at that point links are more important to machines (like search engines) seeing relationships than for humans. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone should develop explained linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? well... i s'pose you could use the 'title' attribute with your 'a href.' something like this-- a href=http://jonnygoldstein.com/; title=Great humor!Jonny Goldstein/a that way, whenever anyone moves their cursor over the Jonny Goldstein link, a little box pops up as a tooltip containing the words 'Great humor!' more at: http://tinyurl.com/6uo99 -- xo philip http://swordfight.org videoblog http://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vlog http://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
One thing that concerns me about the digg-style system is keeping the interest of those who submit. I was an early-on digg user and was proud to be ranked #49 (but has since slipped to #110). The thing is that I got burnt out - it just became too much after a while. I'm still a subscriber in Bloglines, but I no longer submit stuff and the social environment has changed. Now there are many lame and duplicate stories submitted and even more that get popular just because they have something to do with Kevin Rose (the co-creator). For example... if there is a story on the web with AJAX in the title, someone will submit it and others will digg it without even considering if it is actually good. Maybe that is foreshadow for a popularity contest? Oh, and the comments have gotten to be more like flame wars. My impression is that people get excited about the idea of seeding content and then grow tired over time. Who knows, maybe this is just my perception because I'm burnt out on web development. After all, it is snowboard season and my priorities get all screwed up this time of year. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am exploring the digg model as well. kinda hard to ignore. its simple at its core. thats usually a good thing. i have something partially in place. also, matt, no worry. months before you came around, the anti-ratings mentality was even stronger. it was a simpler time ;-) but now most realize that filtering is really the big big issue these days... whether or not it offends a purists point of view. sull On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it. I brought this up a few months ago in a video conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system. You can only digg something, which is a good thing. A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system). It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.com and he go VC money for it. Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
ManCheeseMo says: "For example, you could get info on places toeat/shop/drink in NYC from a local vlogger.Personally, I do not have much of a need either, but I recognize thisas having huge potential. I'm a big fan of themed content and don'treally care for personal-diary style stuff." Funny, you would mention an idea like this. I walked down 8th Street in NYC the other evening. First, there was a "games store" which was closed but had a bunch of people painting figurines which were for sale in the front window. Thought that would be interesting. I hadn't gone a block before I found myself passing in front of a "Modeling and Sculpture" school. That would be another interesting vlog. Suddenly, I thought what a great serial-vlog it would be to go block by block in NYC doing vlogs about the most interesting thing on each block. If you were teaching a class on vlogging, you could just take a section of the City, give each student a block and leave it up to them to pick something on that block to videotape and create a vlog about. This would create a fascinating social history. One could dedicate one's life to doing it alone but I would get tired after a while. Commercially, I could imagine store's being willing to pay XXX dollars to have a vlog done about them. That wouldn't interest me and will probably be considered "off topic" and "business" on this list. Still, I think the idea of creating a series of vlogs around the idea of blocks, or even "art galleries", or restaurants, whatever, would be interesting. I think a series on venues for "comedy" would be uniquely funny and interesting to those interested in comedy. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: ManCheeseMo To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:24 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it. Basically anyone who uses the existing podcast features may want tohave video rather than just audio.Travelers for one. They may want to use their (soon-to-be-available)Tivo-2-Go service to dump recorded shows down to their portabledevice. Then there would be no need to buy 'Lost' from iTunes if youhave Tivo and could transfer it. Another option would be for tourguide stuff. For example, you could get info on places toeat/shop/drink in NYC from a local vlogger.Personally, I do not have much of a need either, but I recognize thisas having huge potential. I'm a big fan of themed content and don'treally care for personal-diary style stuff. Even the people I do"know" are hard to watch do nothing. The biggest reason I couldjustify buying a video iPod would be to take it out and share videowith others.Basically it comes down to this. Rather than being limited torecieving video on your television or computer, you could take itanywhere once it is on the iPod. That makes you a walking mediacenter. You could plug it into any TV or PC and watch it there.Rumor has it that Apple is working on wireless for the iPod so thatyou really could broadcaster to others around you.Again, the content isn't really here yet. Or at least not enough ofit or the type of content to justify my purchase.--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "missbhavens1969"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No! Please go into some possibilities! That's the part I want to know! I want to know what "creating this market" means! Market for...???Sure, if I hadn't just gotten an ipod relatively recently I WOULD be begging for one of the new ones, although maybe not for the same reasons as others. Other people's reasons are what I'm curious about! "Viewers will find the need"? Okay, right on, man! But for what? Help me out, here. bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ManCheeseMo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is only the way YOU use these technologies and does not represent everyone else's needs/desires. There are too many possibilities to go into, but I find it ironic that you see the value in portable photos but not video.The video iPod is only the first attempt at serving a market that is still being created. Sure you may not be begging for a video iPod this Christmas, but the content will catch up and the viewers will find the need - even if you do not. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "missbhavens1969" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and Ilike a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Even highlighting the number of hits a vlog got might be helpful. It would have the negative effect of those with the most hits (earned or not) would keep getting more. However, that would be like having a "best-seller" list for books. You know the "best-sellers" are worth looking at more closely. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page--like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine.I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses "art" as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten "art" vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. "Directories" are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an "artist" or in "art class" doesn't mean that you make "good" art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the "good" back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
Well, the links on my site usually stem from one of two things: 1) I had some sort of interaction with them that I enjoyed and probably remember in relation to Vloggertown. So I put them on my videoblog so I can remember my neighbors. 2) They had something on their site that I enjoyed for my own twisted reasons. Not necessarily because I think they have some Great Body Of Super Video or anything; probably just for one video. I don't think many of these people in my sidebar don't even link back to me-- and why should they? I don't admit I know the drunk in the corner sleeping in his own puke, but actually, I know him very well. I see and talk to him often, but I don't have to admit it in public! I don't think many of these sidebar links on sites are there because of anything other than because they like the content or from some sort of interaction with the human behind the site. But of course, if you want someone to notice you linking to them still works better than a webring... but don't expect the linklove recipricated just for that reason alone. If it did, sites like Rocketboom and human-dog would have a page FILLED with recipricals...and that, for a directory, would help noone. But what do I know about why other people link... this is just why I do it. (posting twice today because I had two cups of coffee before food..) schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://bayarea.node101.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petertheman says: Second: we as vloggers, for some reason, aren't really linking a lot to each other's videos. I'm not sure why that is. I think linking is frequently done on the basis that the more links you put on your site, the more hits you get. For that reason, at least with websites, you link to anyone who will link back to you. I have noticed some vloggers who have great vlogs and who link to others who have outstanding vlogs. However, I also have seen people with a long list of links that are essentially meaningless. Someone should develop explained linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: petertheman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: making directories You're assuming that the lact of a directory is a problem. Here's my view. First, with video, you need a lot more info to decide where to put your attention than with text, because video demands more attention (you can't just quickly scan it like a text post, for example). So for video, you need more filters, metadata, information that helps you decide what to put your limited attention towards. It's an attention war. Hence, directories can be useful. Second: we as vloggers, for some reason, aren't really linking a lot to each other's videos. I'm not sure why that is. But it does mean that we have less interlinking than textbloggers to help people discover new stuff. Hence, a directory makes sense, again. Third: search for video is an unsolved problem, and will continue to be, especially for our type of long tail video. Hence, .. you get the picture :) Then again I could be wrong also and Google might come out with a great algorythmic way to find videos you want to watch, or we might all start linking like crazy to each others videos and we wouldn't need directories to discover cool stuff. Oh well. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
Jan's observation: "I use the idea of capturing the "reality" of life as an impetus to make efforts toward crafting life as a more interesting "show"." This sounds a bit like the idea that people "act up" to make themselves more interesting while being filmed. I see a whole new school of "video therapy" possible here! Tired, bored, lonely, life lacking interest and zest? Vlogging can bring joy back into your life, help you connect with other people, take your mind off your problems, allow you to share your inner life with others! Yes, you can even substitute 'vlogging mania' for IAD (Internet Addiction Disorder). Break away from the computer and start a new life with your video camera in hand! Actually, I can almost agree with the foregoing...at times. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jan McLaughlin To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] making directories I think Andrew's on to something here. To my mind, the "reality" element of what vlogging captures is one of its many charms.I use the idea of capturing the "reality" of life as an impetus to make efforts toward crafting life as a more interesting "show".Dig?Jan-- "It isn't done alone. Pay more."http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - educationhttp://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motionhttp://blog.urbanartadventures.com - soundhttp://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - mediahttp://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature.On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:43 PM, andrew michael baron wrote: On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Brad Webb wrote: Let's extend the "show" analogy a bit... To me, most videoblogs are *segments*. Only when you have multiple segments, does it become a *show*. I view *show* in this context as much more of a "container" than simply anything. That's just my opinion on it, and my knee-jerk, though. What about a "reality show" like MTV Realworld. What if the Magical Mystery Tour was blogged? Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
right, thats what I am doing... individual video posts, not the entire vlog... in this case.On 12/5/05, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm glad I'm not the only one who has thought of this. But I do think it would work better for individual postings rather thanentire video blogs.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it.I brought this up a few months ago in avideo conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system.You can only digg something, which is a goodthing.A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned itdue to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system).It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot likeDigg.com and he go VC money for it.Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into thisagain.Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but somethinglike it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the frontpage-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best forindividual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it wouldwork for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example.That is a very good choice.Ifind that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away.Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need arereviewers and people who filter content for us.You would quicklyrecognize those people who directed you to great material.You'd alsolearn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless.Analternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn'tmean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me findthe good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o)Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're rightabout that. :o) - Andreas--URL: http://www.solitude.dk/Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology.Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a..Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b..To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c..Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo!
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
good points.i have been aware of this.you see, i am not a true believer in all the geekiness of social networking.it even took me a while to truly accept tagging as something that is useful.i see too many projects that are too gung ho on all the intricacies of what makes a social network but not much focus on what makes a social notwork. too much is too much. couple this with what you are saying... being burnt out as a social network participant.i think this might be some sort of epidemic in a way... and why social network sites will peak and then its lure is lessened. although video... the vlogosphere... has a better chance at sustaining itself in such environments, because video is just the most powerful medium and we all will always consume it. not to say links to articles are not, but digging video might make more sense in the ling run than digging text articles. sullOn 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that concerns me about the digg-style system is keeping theinterest of those who submit.I was an early-on digg user and wasproud to be ranked #49 (but has since slipped to #110).The thing isthat I got burnt out - it just became too much after a while. I'm still a subscriber in Bloglines, but I no longer submit stuff andthe social environment has changed.Now there are many lame andduplicate stories submitted and even more that get popular justbecause they have something to do with Kevin Rose (the co-creator). For example... if there is a story on the web with AJAX in the title,someone will submit it and others will digg it without evenconsidering if it is actually good.Maybe that is foreshadow for apopularity contest?Oh, and the comments have gotten to be more like flame wars.My impression is that people get excited about the idea of seedingcontent and then grow tired over time.Who knows, maybe this is justmy perception because I'm burnt out on web development.After all, it is snowboard season and my priorities get all screwed up this time ofyear.-Matt---http://ridertech.comhttp://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am exploring the digg model as well. kinda hard to ignore. its simple at its core.thats usually a good thing. i have something partially in place. also, matt, no worry.months before you came around, the anti-ratings mentality was even stronger.it was a simpler time ;-)but now most realize that filtering is really the big big issue these days...whether or not it offends a purists point of view. sull On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it.I brought this up a few months ago in a video conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system.You can only digg something, which is a good thing.A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system).It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.com and he go VC money for it.Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example.That is a very good choice.I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring.Then I see one which simply blows me away.Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories
Thanks for that suggestion. It would work if people knew they could get the information that way. Maybe a text message on top of the links. Visible text under the link would be so much better. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Philip Clark To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:48 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Someone should develop "explained" linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this?well... i s'pose you could use the 'title' attribute with your 'a href.'something like this-- a href=""http://jonnygoldstein.com/">http://jonnygoldstein.com/" title="Great humor!"Jonny Goldstein/a that way, whenever anyone moves their cursor over the Jonny Goldstein link, a little box pops up as a tooltip containing the words 'Great humor!'more at: http://tinyurl.com/6uo99--xo philiphttp://swordfight.org videobloghttp://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vloghttp://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
Hi Bev,I completely agree with you. The new video ipod is cute and cool and you can watch videos on it, but I think the reason it gets so much press in the group is because people with ipods can show people their videos without going on line to do it, which is also a neat idea, just to prove that we do have something to show on line. I do not seriously believe anyone has chosen to carry any of my comic classics around with them for a 'wee titter on the bus' or to show them to others. Please prove me wrong if you do, this will boost my ego a hell of a lot and I will therefore pay more attention to making my videos more pod friendly.LovePaul Knight (pjkproductions.blogspot.comOn 5 Dec 2005, at 19:26, missbhavens1969 wrote:Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jakob Nielson On Talking-Head Videos
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 18:29:13 +0100, mancheesemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does this say about news shows like Rocketboom or Mobuzz? Sure the hosts are attractive at first, but each episode feels like the same thing and their attractiveness wears off. Disclaimer: I'm not a subscriber to either, but I do watch an episode of each every now and again. In my experience Rocketboom is pretty good at creating variety. Cut-aways, external reporters, Amanda in a different settings all keep Rocketboom interesting visually. Mobuzz on the other hand uses a green screen with an insert relating to the story - much more stale. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories
Wow, I never thought of that. That is even more evidence that "links" are artificial ways to rise in search engines rather than real connections to other people/vloggers. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories I use Wordpress and it allows you to ad comments to each link. But I don't use this feature, I opt to categorize my links. So I guess that accomplishes kind of the same thing. One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? I rarely if ever visit any actual video blog unless I'm commenting and the comment pages of most blogs don't show the links. It seems that at that point links are more important to machines (like search engines) seeing relationships than for humans. Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone should develop "explained" linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? well... i s'pose you could use the 'title' attribute with your 'a href.' something like this-- a href=""http://jonnygoldstein.com/">http://jonnygoldstein.com/" title="Great humor!"Jonny Goldstein/a that way, whenever anyone moves their cursor over the Jonny Goldstein link, a little box pops up as a tooltip containing the words 'Great humor!' more at: http://tinyurl.com/6uo99 -- xo philip http://swordfight.org videoblog http://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vlog http://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
I should have also mentioned that Digg is working on a video category, or at least I heard Kevin Rose slip on one of the older Diggnation vidcasts that it was coming. I doubt this will cramp your project because if Digg build this, I'm not sure if the community will be accepting of non-tech videos since the rest of the site it tech-centric. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good points. i have been aware of this. you see, i am not a true believer in all the geekiness of social networking. it even took me a while to truly accept tagging as something that is useful. i see too many projects that are too gung ho on all the intricacies of what makes a social network but not much focus on what makes a social notwork. too much is too much. couple this with what you are saying... being burnt out as a social network participant. i think this might be some sort of epidemic in a way... and why social network sites will peak and then its lure is lessened. although video... the vlogosphere... has a better chance at sustaining itself in such environments, because video is just the most powerful medium and we all will always consume it. not to say links to articles are not, but digging video might make more sense in the ling run than digging text articles. sull On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that concerns me about the digg-style system is keeping the interest of those who submit. I was an early-on digg user and was proud to be ranked #49 (but has since slipped to #110). The thing is that I got burnt out - it just became too much after a while. I'm still a subscriber in Bloglines, but I no longer submit stuff and the social environment has changed. Now there are many lame and duplicate stories submitted and even more that get popular just because they have something to do with Kevin Rose (the co-creator). For example... if there is a story on the web with AJAX in the title, someone will submit it and others will digg it without even considering if it is actually good. Maybe that is foreshadow for a popularity contest? Oh, and the comments have gotten to be more like flame wars. My impression is that people get excited about the idea of seeding content and then grow tired over time. Who knows, maybe this is just my perception because I'm burnt out on web development. After all, it is snowboard season and my priorities get all screwed up this time of year. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am exploring the digg model as well. kinda hard to ignore. its simple at its core. thats usually a good thing. i have something partially in place. also, matt, no worry. months before you came around, the anti-ratings mentality was even stronger. it was a simpler time ;-) but now most realize that filtering is really the big big issue these days... whether or not it offends a purists point of view. sull On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it. I brought this up a few months ago in a video conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system. You can only digg something, which is a good thing. A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system). It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.com and he go VC money for it. Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for
Re: [videoblogging] interesting use of a video podcast
On 12/5/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the purpose for podcast installments like this? Is it to develop a following that will ultimately turn into box office sales? Or is this just an extended pitch to interest backers in financing or purchasing the movie? My initial thoughts were all of the above. Buzz, buzzy buzz buzz. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: interesting use of a video podcast
Foureyedmonsters has been on the film festival circuit for about a year. They have and interesting movie but the distributors have not been impressed enough to cough up a distribution deal. The young filmmakers have proven themselves as maverick self distributors... At this stage it is just a way for you to look at their movie. They just shot and edited a blog intro and then cut in scenes from their movie. Clever! Bill --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the purpose for podcast installments like this? Is it to develop a following that will ultimately turn into box office sales? Or is this just an extended pitch to interest backers in financing or purchasing the movie? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: [videoblogging] interesting use of a video podcast Paul Sanchez sent me a link to an interesting video podcast for an independent film http://foureyedmonsters.com/video_podcast/ very nice vlog thanks paul! good catch -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: External camcorder mic suggestions?
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks teaspace, I bought this mike. It really isn't very good. Actually, I paid $69 for it at BH a few months ago. On zoom, it helps a wee bit but shotgun makes the sound terrible. You are better off not using it at all. I'm not sure what level of professionalism you are after here, but I have a pair of Radio Shack lapel mikes (about $25 each) that I use for interviews. It's not as good as a wireless mike and you could probably do a better job with a boom mic if you had a boom mic operator, but it's a hell of a lot better than any built in mic and for $25-50 you can't go wrong. These are wired mics, so this would not work if you or the subject were walking around, but for interviews it works OK. I'm pretty sure they make a wireless version too. There is another mike that sells (lists) for about $150 and I'm not sure if that is just more of the bad stuff. Maybe, to get good sound, I'll just have to get a 3-chip camera with a mike jack. I don't like them because they are so large. Big cameras are intimidating. This is a slippery slope you're treading here. You can easily spend as much as or more than your camera is worth on sound equipment and there's always a better more expensive way of doing it. People make careers doing just sound, and they use thousands of dollars worth of equipment. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: teaspace To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I have a Sony ECMHS1 mic that simply mounts onto the intelligent hot shoe on my PC110 camera. You don't need any additional connections, and the mic pattern even follows the zoom on the camera. It gets mixed reviews here, but you could try it or perhaps something newer if your sony camera has the intelligent shoe: http://www.textkit.com/0_B5T3BZ.html Randolfe Wicker wrote: I have a problem insofar as my Sony HC42 mini-dv camera only has a shoe on top and two clip on microphones available. I really need to have some way to get direct mick plug in. Is there some sort of wireless of plug in microphone that can be connected via the shoe on top of the camera? It's really ridiculous because the camera cost $800 last March. I really thought I had researched everything but I didn't think of the audio. I have a wireless mike for my old Hi8 camcorder. Audio is really almost 50% of good video. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - *From:* bottomunion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:18 AM *Subject:* [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I'm in desperate need of an external mic for a small camcorder. I've been shopping around for one, but haven't found any ones I like. This would have to be compact, and fit on a handsized camcorder, small enough to keep the whole package (camcorder and mic) small. Just throwing this out to see if anyone might have suggestions, possible solutions. Thanks. Bottom Union, Esq. SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig= IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H1 5DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=b K2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46 LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=Unsubscribe * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/.
[videoblogging] 'Podcast' named word of the year
Let the debate continue... The editors of the New Oxford American Dictionary have selected podcast as the Word of the Year for 2005. Podcast will be defined as a digital recording of a radio broadcast or similar program, made available on the Internet for downloading to a personal audio player. The word will be added to the next online update of the New Oxford American Dictionary, due in early 2006. http://tinyurl.com/cnqz6 For the record, I agree podcast is a lame term to associate with video blogging, but it works to build an audience. Of course, that is only if you want one. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Vimeo and Medicine Films both have similar features that allow you to dig the videos on their sites. As I browse around though, I never see anything that's been dug. It may not make a whole lot of sense yet outside of digg.com -josh On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have also mentioned that Digg is working on a video category, or at least I heard Kevin Rose slip on one of the older Diggnation vidcasts that it was coming. I doubt this will cramp your project because if Digg build this, I'm not sure if the community will be accepting of non-tech videos since the rest of the site it tech-centric. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good points. i have been aware of this. you see, i am not a true believer in all the geekiness of social networking. it even took me a while to truly accept tagging as something that is useful. i see too many projects that are too gung ho on all the intricacies of what makes a social network but not much focus on what makes a social notwork. too much is too much. couple this with what you are saying... being burnt out as a social network participant. i think this might be some sort of epidemic in a way... and why social network sites will peak and then its lure is lessened. although video... the vlogosphere... has a better chance at sustaining itself in such environments, because video is just the most powerful medium and we all will always consume it. not to say links to articles are not, but digging video might make more sense in the ling run than digging text articles. sull On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that concerns me about the digg-style system is keeping the interest of those who submit. I was an early-on digg user and was proud to be ranked #49 (but has since slipped to #110). The thing is that I got burnt out - it just became too much after a while. I'm still a subscriber in Bloglines, but I no longer submit stuff and the social environment has changed. Now there are many lame and duplicate stories submitted and even more that get popular just because they have something to do with Kevin Rose (the co-creator). For example... if there is a story on the web with AJAX in the title, someone will submit it and others will digg it without even considering if it is actually good. Maybe that is foreshadow for a popularity contest? Oh, and the comments have gotten to be more like flame wars. My impression is that people get excited about the idea of seeding content and then grow tired over time. Who knows, maybe this is just my perception because I'm burnt out on web development. After all, it is snowboard season and my priorities get all screwed up this time of year. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am exploring the digg model as well. kinda hard to ignore. its simple at its core. thats usually a good thing. i have something partially in place. also, matt, no worry. months before you came around, the anti-ratings mentality was even stronger. it was a simpler time ;-) but now most realize that filtering is really the big big issue these days... whether or not it offends a purists point of view. sull On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it. I brought this up a few months ago in a video conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system. You can only digg something, which is a good thing. A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system). It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.com and he go VC money for it. Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [videoblogging] Re: vodcasts in cellphones
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 17:21:27 +0100, Richard Bennett-Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too, including the flashlight. Although I'm not in the U.S. Ditto. It's a very good use for a mobile phone. :o) But as you probably all know, SMS is big outside the U.S. I send maybe 3-4 SMS each day, sometimes up to 10. The system in the US is not really set up to foster SMS usage (many have to pay to *recieve* a message). A small country like Denmark send many times the SMS'es of the USA. A story from late 2004 mentions that the average American user sends 13 messages per year, the average Danish user sends 66 messages per *month* (I'm at approx. 20 messages per month). In the first 6 months of 2005 there were almost 4 *billion* text messages sent in Denmark (pop. less than New York City). Totally different phone cultures. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] 'Podcast' named word of the year
LeanBackVids.com wrote: Podcast will be defined as a digital recording of a radio broadcast or similar program, made available on the Internet for downloading to a personal audio player. radio broadcast or similar program ??? Argh... Well, I suppose this might work for the millions out there who have no idea what a podcast is. :/ Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] spielberg, doin' it for the kids
I think it's brilliant that Steven is doing such sterling work in the middle east. He is teaching these kids how to vlog without telling them they could post their video's on line and get an even bigger audience, or will be stump up for 250 computers with broadband as well?paulOn 5 Dec 2005, at 21:52, Philip Clark wrote: http://tinyurl.com/8vslt ~~ The director also discussed another film project he is initiating in February, in which he is buying 250 video cameras and players and giving them to Israeli and Palestinian children so that they can make movies about their own lives. "Not dramas," Spielberg said, "just little documentaries about who they are and what they believe in, who their parents are, where they go to school, what they had to eat, what movies they watch, what CDs they listen to." ~~ Steve should tell those kids that they'd get more viewers if they made actual 'shows.' -- xo philip http://swordfight.org videoblog http://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vlog http://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboardYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] spielberg, doin' it for the kids
and most importantly: Spielberg said the children will then exchange the videos with one another. Philip Clark wrote: http://tinyurl.com/8vslt ~~ The director also discussed another film project he is initiating in February, in which he is buying 250 video cameras and players and giving them to Israeli and Palestinian children so that they can make movies about their own lives. Not dramas, Spielberg said, just little documentaries about who they are and what they believe in, who their parents are, where they go to school, what they had to eat, what movies they watch, what CDs they listen to. -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
missbhavens1969 wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. [rant, rant, rant] Ok. I'm done. No attacking, please. Any time someone says I don't get it I can't help but think a few things... - They are not using their imagination, or thinking creatively. - They live a lifestyle where X just doesn't/can't fit into into their everyday life. I see this again and again. With weblogs, and podcasts (in the 'audio away from a connected computer sense') and videoblogs (or in this case, 'video away from a connected computer') I tend to embrace new technologies and think of the possibilities. Sheesh, look at what weblogging has done since 1997. Has it changed the world? I dunno, but it's changed my world. Same with podcasting and videoblogging. Do you see the possibilities? Why not? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] 'Podcast' named word of the year
For the record, I agree podcast is a lame term to associate with video blogging, but it works to build an audience. Ummm... it doesn't work as well as good content. Rocketboom does not use the word podcast on their site anywhere (though they used to use vlog). Ryanne's Video Blog is called exactly that... Ryann'es Video Blog. SEO takes you only so far... to get and retain viewers, the best thing you can do is make good stuff and make it often. -Josh On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let the debate continue... The editors of the New Oxford American Dictionary have selected podcast as the Word of the Year for 2005. Podcast will be defined as a digital recording of a radio broadcast or similar program, made available on the Internet for downloading to a personal audio player. The word will be added to the next online update of the New Oxford American Dictionary, due in early 2006. http://tinyurl.com/cnqz6 For the record, I agree podcast is a lame term to associate with video blogging, but it works to build an audience. Of course, that is only if you want one. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers thingy in April, which means a 7 hour flight and hoping that my camera battery can be charged over there, don't worry I know which kind of adaptor I will need etc, but I was wondering, how much cheap accomodation would be over there and how I would find it, I also have the trip from JFK to new york to worry about and then where I will stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and or buses or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being able to drive on the left hand side of the road. So any ideas.Paul knight(pjkproductions)On 5 Dec 2005, at 22:05, Randolfe Wicker wrote:ManCheeseMo says:"For example, you could get info on places toeat/shop/drink in NYC from a local vlogger.Personally, I do not have much of a need either, but I recognize thisas having huge potential. I'm a big fan of themed content and don'treally care for personal-diary style stuff." Funny, you would mention an idea like this. I walked down 8th Street in NYC the other evening. First, there was a "games store" which was closed but had a bunch of people painting figurines which were for sale in the front window. Thought that would be interesting. I hadn't gone a block before I found myself passing in front of a "Modeling and Sculpture" school. That would be another interesting vlog. Suddenly, I thought what a great serial-vlog it would be to go block by block in NYC doing vlogs about the most interesting thing on each block. If you were teaching a class on vlogging, you could just take a section of the City, give each student a block and leave it up to them to pick something on that block to videotape and create a vlog about. This would create a fascinating social history. One could dedicate one's life to doing it alone but I would get tired after a while. Commercially, I could imagine store's being willing to pay XXX dollars to have a vlog done about them. That wouldn't interest me and will probably be considered "off topic" and "business" on this list. Still, I think the idea of creating a series of vlogs around the idea of blocks, or even "art galleries", or restaurants, whatever, would be interesting. I think a series on venues for "comedy" would be uniquely funny and interesting to those interested in comedy. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message -From: ManCheeseMoTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:24 PMSubject: [videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.Basically anyone who uses the existing podcast features may want tohave video rather than just audio.Travelers for one. They may want to use their (soon-to-be-available)Tivo-2-Go service to dump recorded shows down to their portabledevice. Then there would be no need to buy 'Lost' from iTunes if youhave Tivo and could transfer it. Another option would be for tourguide stuff. For example, you could get info on places toeat/shop/drink in NYC from a local vlogger.Personally, I do not have much of a need either, but I recognize thisas having huge potential. I'm a big fan of themed content and don'treally care for personal-diary style stuff. Even the people I do"know" are hard to watch do nothing. The biggest reason I couldjustify buying a video iPod would be to take it out and share videowith others.Basically it comes down to this. Rather than being limited torecieving video on your television or computer, you could take itanywhere once it is on the iPod. That makes you a walking mediacenter. You could plug it into any TV or PC and watch it there.Rumor has it that Apple is working on wireless for the iPod so thatyou really could broadcaster to others around you.Again, the content isn't really here yet. Or at least not enough ofit or the type of content to justify my purchase.--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "missbhavens1969"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No! Please go into some possibilities! That's the part I want to know! I want to know what "creating this market" means! Market for...???Sure, if I hadn't just gotten an ipod relatively recently I WOULD be begging for one of the new ones, although maybe not for the same reasons as others. Other people's reasons are what I'm curious about! "Viewers will find the need"? Okay, right on, man! But for what? Help me out, here. bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ManCheeseMo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is only the way YOU use these technologies and does not represent everyone else's needs/desires. There are too many possibilities to go into, but I find it ironic that you see the value in portable photos but not video. The video iPod is only the first attempt at serving a market that is still being created. Sure you may not be begging for a video iPod
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:58:52 +0100, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? Since adding links to the videos themselves is too friggin' hard for the common man right now... Write like a blogger. A video description could look like this: I saw Joe's attempt at making pancakes yesterday. This morning I decided to try it myself. I used to recipe Jane posted last month. With links to: - Joe's blog - Joe's entry with his failed pancake attempt - Jane's blog - Jane's recipe Adapt for your videos, spread some links around. Rinse and repeat. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
BevSykes wrote: Really, really coming in late to this thread, but I started keeping an on-line journal before the term blog had been created, much less vlog. When I first began writing a journal in 2000, I began checking out the journaling world and found journals I am still reading today, Just wondering... Were you journaling before 2000? Because some of us have been 'weblogging' since 1997. (Peter Merholz came up with the word 'blog' in 1999.) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] DIY Video Hardware For Film-like FX
rounded up a few potential summer-time ( australian style ) projects into one spot : http://www.skynoise.net/2005/12/04/62/ -- :-: }} } } } } http://www.skynoise.net YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories
Steve Garfield's Vlog Soup posts are a great example of such links. He's got a link in the post for every single site that is mentioned in the video. On 12/5/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:58:52 +0100, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? Since adding links to the videos themselves is too friggin' hard for the common man right now... Write like a blogger. A video description could look like this: I saw Joe's attempt at making pancakes yesterday. This morning I decided to try it myself. I used to recipe Jane posted last month. With links to: - Joe's blog - Joe's entry with his failed pancake attempt - Jane's blog - Jane's recipe Adapt for your videos, spread some links around. Rinse and repeat. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/ See what we are up to: http://mefeedia.com/blog/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] is blogger down?
Can some one access my blogger for me, I can seem to get a connection, could it be one of those things where they pull you for no reason?? I can't get onto anyone elses blog spot either, do you think this is anything to worry about??? paul http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] converting JPEG to ICO (favicon)
I need some help. I am not able to convert my picture into the proper format to use as a favicon. It is currently a JPEG file and I would like to make it a ICO . Could someone save and convert my file for me, then tell me a link of where it can be located at? Thank you, below is the link to the (already right dimentions) JPEG file. http://ia300221.us.archive.org/1/items/my_icon/clipperc.jpg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: interesting use of a video podcast
I've been thinking of doing the same with video material I filmed for a documentary on street fairs. I just don't want to make my own vlog too one-dimensional. Where would you go to start a separate series of vlogs for a specialized project like this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Day To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: interesting use of a video podcast Foureyedmonsters has been on the film festival circuit for about a year. They have and interesting movie but the distributors have not been impressed enough to cough up a distribution deal. The young filmmakers have proven themselves as maverick self distributors... At this stage it is just a way for you to look at their movie. They just shot and edited a blog intro and then cut in scenes from their movie. Clever! Bill--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the purpose for podcast installments like this? Is it to develop a "following" that will ultimately turn into box office sales? Or is this just an extended pitch to interest backers in financing or purchasing the movie? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: [videoblogging] interesting use of a video podcast Paul Sanchez sent me a link to an interesting "video podcast" for an independent film http://foureyedmonsters.com/video_podcast/ very nice vlog thanks paul! good catch -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
You're making me consider buying an iPod for the first time. You should become a salesman for Apple! :-) Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: David Meade To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it. I purchased a video iPod and use it mainly for video. I do understandyour question though. Video takes (for me anyway) a bit moreattention than music to enjoy ... and so you cant really (or at leastI cant) enjoy video while driving or trying to write a document etc...However I live my lil' video iPod.I spend alot of time in air ports for example. I often find myselfthere waiting for hours trying to get on an earlier standby flight. Video iPod for the win! I usualy have at least a handfull of videoson there I havent gotten around to watching yet, and there are alwaysthe favorites that I cant get enough of. Airports, on long trainrides etc.Also, the iPod is a pretty good transport method for media (not just aviewing platform, but also a mobile hard disk). So I can totallyimagine business uses ... video presentations (techincal, advertising,legal, all sorts of stuff) could be stored on the ipod and easilyplugged into a conference room projector when you arrive at the clientsite.I've got a bunch of videos that I'm dying to show some of my family... they aren't interested in finding video on the web, but I at theholidays I can plug in the iPod to the TV and introduce them to someof the content right in the living room.- Dave--http://www.DavidMeade.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Rec. Host Provider??
I am thinking about finding my own host besides blogspot. Any suggestions from the videobloggers on which host would be a good quality and affordable choice? Thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] converting JPEG to ICO (favicon)
You can also use this online tool to convert a larger graphic file to a favicon http://www.chami.com/html-kit/services/favicon/ On 12/5/05, havilahland33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need some help. I am not able to convert my picture into the proper format to use as a favicon. It is currently a JPEG file and I would like to make it a ICO . Could someone save and convert my file for me, then tell me a link of where it can be located at? Thank you, below is the link to the (already right dimentions) JPEG file. http://ia300221.us.archive.org/1/items/my_icon/clipperc.jpg Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
Yeah I'm aware of these limitations. Although one of these problems can be addressed by RSS itself. Rather than having contributers contribute content the way it is done on Digg, contributers simply submit their rss feeds so that whenever they post a new video it gets goes into a cue for voting. No more submission fatigue--let the machines do it. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good points. i have been aware of this. you see, i am not a true believer in all the geekiness of social networking. it even took me a while to truly accept tagging as something that is useful. i see too many projects that are too gung ho on all the intricacies of what makes a social network but not much focus on what makes a social notwork. too much is too much. couple this with what you are saying... being burnt out as a social network participant. i think this might be some sort of epidemic in a way... and why social network sites will peak and then its lure is lessened. although video... the vlogosphere... has a better chance at sustaining itself in such environments, because video is just the most powerful medium and we all will always consume it. not to say links to articles are not, but digging video might make more sense in the ling run than digging text articles. sull On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that concerns me about the digg-style system is keeping the interest of those who submit. I was an early-on digg user and was proud to be ranked #49 (but has since slipped to #110). The thing is that I got burnt out - it just became too much after a while. I'm still a subscriber in Bloglines, but I no longer submit stuff and the social environment has changed. Now there are many lame and duplicate stories submitted and even more that get popular just because they have something to do with Kevin Rose (the co-creator). For example... if there is a story on the web with AJAX in the title, someone will submit it and others will digg it without even considering if it is actually good. Maybe that is foreshadow for a popularity contest? Oh, and the comments have gotten to be more like flame wars. My impression is that people get excited about the idea of seeding content and then grow tired over time. Who knows, maybe this is just my perception because I'm burnt out on web development. After all, it is snowboard season and my priorities get all screwed up this time of year. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am exploring the digg model as well. kinda hard to ignore. its simple at its core. thats usually a good thing. i have something partially in place. also, matt, no worry. months before you came around, the anti-ratings mentality was even stronger. it was a simpler time ;-) but now most realize that filtering is really the big big issue these days... whether or not it offends a purists point of view. sull On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it. I brought this up a few months ago in a video conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system. You can only digg something, which is a good thing. A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system). It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.com and he go VC money for it. Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire
