Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-31 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:47:23 +0100, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally got to read this again... I find it extremely interesting... I'd love it if you guys Enric and ANdreas sited sources... You're dealing in some interesting and heady terminologies and ideas... I realize you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-31 Thread andrew michael baron
I have been testing Google Video some more. So far, the video compression is really bad. Has anyone seen a nice looking video on Google Video yet? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-31 Thread Joshua Kinberg
typically they play the videos much larger than their original resolution, so some distortion is inevitable when viewed at that size. -josh On 12/31/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been testing Google Video some more. So far, the video compression is really bad.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-31 Thread Adam Quirk
And that's why I don't like it. A lot of web video wasn't made with full screen in mind. It was made for 320x240 or similar. I understand what they're trying to do, make the computer screen more like the tv screen, but I'm disappointed at how they're doing it.On 12/31/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-31 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been testing Google Video some more. So far, the video compression is really bad. Has anyone seen a nice looking video on Google Video yet? I suspect they're using the Flash 7 compression which is

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-31 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Also superceded by compression in Flash 8, but you need to upgrade Flash plugin to view it. -josh On 12/31/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been testing Google Video some more. So far, the

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-30 Thread Edmund Yeo
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i told you, man vsocial, yo. vfuckingsocial. =) Indeed. Although it does take quite a while for my videos to be ready for viewing. But that's pretty understable, I guess. Edmund

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-30 Thread Michael Meiser
I finally got to read this again... I find it extremely interesting... I'd love it if you guys Enric and ANdreas sited sources... You're dealing in some interesting and heady terminologies and ideas... I realize you don't pull them from blogs or the web... in fact I assume you've been

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-30 Thread Michael Meiser
On Dec 25, 2005, at 3:07 PM, Enric wrote: Yes, I see the future as untethered where our knowledge, interaction and work follows our activity. A scenario of this: We can be at home in the business room working on a product, paying bills, and notice a interesting vlog episode. Mark that vlog

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-30 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally got to read this again... I find it extremely interesting... I'd love it if you guys Enric and ANdreas sited sources... You're dealing in some interesting and heady terminologies and ideas... I

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-30 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 25, 2005, at 3:07 PM, Enric wrote: Yes, I see the future as untethered where our knowledge, interaction and work follows our activity. A scenario of this: We can be at home in the business room working

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-30 Thread Paul Knight
wow, when will this end On 30 Dec 2005, at 22:34, Enric wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 25, 2005, at 3:07 PM, Enric wrote: > > Yes, I see the future as untethered where our knowledge, interaction > > and work follows our

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-29 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted a video that hotlinks into my site that is a complete package: http://blogs.opml.org/andrewBaron/ Don't know if this will translate onto the message board, but all you do is enter this code

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-29 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Edmund Yeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is hysterical. and i totally back vsocial. they get it. Is there any limit for how large your files can be? Or how much you

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-29 Thread Enric
The video roll feature is cool, thanks for the continuing video innovation. I've had parellel ideas for an application wrapper to video formats. This inspires me to try things out in flash. :), Enric -===- http://www.cirne.com Determine Media --- In

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-29 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 27, 2005, at 4:53 PM, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: First things first: Michael Sullivan said what I wanted to say, 100%. Steve, the only ammendment to what you wrote below is that the reciever has a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-29 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Labels, schmabels...make some tech...make some tools. ;) Totally agree with this. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-29 Thread Edmund Yeo
HELL YES! I've registered yesterday and have happily intergrated the videos uploaded on vsocial onto my blog. I definitely love the results. I loe you vsocial! Where have you been all my life OMFG! Edmund Yeo http://swiftywriting.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-29 Thread Michael Meiser
On Dec 29, 2005, at 8:10 PM, Enric wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 27, 2005, at 4:53 PM, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: First things first: Michael Sullivan said what I wanted to say, 100%. Steve, the only ammendment to what you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-29 Thread Michael Sullivan
i told you, man vsocial, yo. vfuckingsocial. =)On 12/29/05, Edmund Yeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HELL YES! I've registered yesterday and have happily intergrated thevideos uploaded on vsocial onto my blog. I definitely love the results. I loe you vsocial! Where have you been all my life

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-28 Thread wtrainbow
There are certain elements that can be integrated within the video that have blog attributes - using sprite tracks (I believe this is exclusive to quicktime), chapters and href tracks. Comments are another matter. I think you're onto something though - although now it requires a certain

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-28 Thread LeanBackVids.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez, I leave you guys alone for a couple of days and you're STILL wallowing in definitions. I'm glad you're having fun with it, but would be comforted by a few clear statements that even though this group is

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-28 Thread andrew michael baron
I posted a video that hotlinks into my site that is a complete package: http://blogs.opml.org/andrewBaron/ Don't know if this will translate onto the message board, but all you do is enter this code anywhere, and the video appears with all its comments, tags, etc. as part of the work: embed

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-28 Thread Michael Sullivan
that is hysterical.and i totally back vsocial. they get it.On 12/28/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:THAT VIDEO IS CLASSIC!...And vSocial is a good example of blog stuff in video. -Matt--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-28 Thread Michael Sullivan
I used to work with the company behind what was then called Throttlebox, a media wrapper technology for the Entertainment Industry.Here is a page with info that is amazingly still up: http://www.creativenewmedia.com/Services/throttlebox.htmAt one point, they had contracts with several labels

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-28 Thread Edmund Yeo
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is hysterical. and i totally back vsocial. they get it. Is there any limit for how large your files can be? Or how much you can edit per month? I use boltfolio (http://www.boltfolio.com), which is kinda

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-28 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez, I leave you guys alone for a couple of days and you're STILL wallowing in definitions. I know you're probably kidding. But I do think there's value in exploring the different technical and theoretical

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-27 Thread LeanBackVids.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difference in this example is the RSS Feed is not utilizing the item 'enclosure' to syndicate the video away from the blog post instead the RSS Feed is used to alert a subscribing audience that their

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-27 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Bennett-Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's clear as day to me. I guess it depends upon the weather... You don't need a weather man To know which way the wind blows Subterranean Homesick Blues - Bob Dylan ;)

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-27 Thread Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need a weather man To know which way the wind blows But if you do: http://whetherman.blogspot.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-27 Thread johngaltsjournal
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you do: http://whetherman.blogspot.com/ I love this guy!!! I'm kinda addicted to it. schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-27 Thread Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, johngaltsjournal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love this guy!!! I'm kinda addicted to it. Me, too. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season!

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-27 Thread Enric
Sounds like a matrix developing...or Epsilon Construct (calling Eric Rice...) ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what do you call it if there is no blog, just a feed with videos, but the videos are interactive and among other things include links

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-27 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 27, 2005, at 10:23 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: enhanced vodcast I guess what I'm talking about is putting the blog into the video. Can a blog be in a video? -Verdi I don't think so. A blog is not time

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Joshua Kinberg
I think people too often confuse the what is a videoblog question as though it has something to do with the style of content (or the contents of the content). I would say that videoblogging has nothing to do with content and everything to do with medium. videoblog = video + blog so the question

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Bennett-Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will, you are wrong. Andreas is right. Michael you're wrong. Will is right. ...because I say so. -- Vlog: http://www.kashum.com Feed: http://www.kashum.com/rss2.xml Wouldn't a futurecaster

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Deirdre Straughan
Here we go with the semantics again. Perhaps the root of the problem lies not in definitions but in the name of this group. It seems logical (to me, at least) that videoblog does indeed = video+blog. Therefore we're talking about video attached to/embedded in a web page, with RSS. comments and

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Richard Bennett-Forrest
Wouldn't a futurecaster know best? LOL! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This makes no sense at all. In fact by your own definitions you don't get the right to assert that you are a videoblogger. If I consume your video posts exclusively through iTunes or Fireant you're saying it isn't a

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread monika_lyman
Very well said. While I understand the desire to define videoblogging, it seems that a tight definition will exclude or intimidate some people who are trying to express themselves in this medium. Part of what attracts me to videoblogging is the wide diversity of expression that I find. A

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Mike Meiser
On 12/24/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think Tivo is Television.Classical television cannot not beautomaticaly stored, retrieved, scanned and viewed out of order (this can be manually performmed with programming recorders -- but justabout anything can be put into a manual

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This makes no sense at all. In fact by your own definitions you don't get the right to assert that you are a videoblogger. If I consume your video posts exclusively through iTunes or Fireant you're saying it isn't a

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread wtrainbow
I think you've had too much cough syrup... What is your definition of videoblog? I have yet to see a congent one. If I post a video to my web site is that all of a sudden a videoblog? Or do I need a sidebar with links too? Or do I need tags too? Do I need to allow comments to have a

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Enric
Yes, I see the future as untethered where our knowledge, interaction and work follows our activity. A scenario of this: We can be at home in the business room working on a product, paying bills, and notice a interesting vlog episode. Mark that vlog episode to take along -- it goes onto a

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread wtrainbow
This may be true in your own mind but apart from this insular community, videoblog clearly has a personal connotation inherited from the word blog. Ask people who have no idea what a videoblog is. As you stated most people perceive blogs coming from an individual voice. In a strict

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread wtrainbow
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. I was not trying to put down a definition. I don't know where you got that idea. A definition would include other factors that exclude Deperate Housewives in a blog template (because they are not read as

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. I was not trying to put down a definition. I don't know where you got that idea. A definition would include other factors that

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:57:09 +0100, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I think this what is problematic with the semantics. Virtually all videblogs are vodcasts in a strcit sense. No, almost all videoblogs - *right now* - *can* be used as vodcasts. And I failt to see why that's a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 21:34:03 +0100, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. I was not trying to put down a definition. I don't know where you got that idea. A definition would include other factors that exclude

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread wtrainbow
Look up semantics... --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:57:09 +0100, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I think this what is problematic with the semantics. Virtually all videblogs are vodcasts in a strcit

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread andrew michael baron
Ho, Ho, ho! VIA: http://tinyurl.com/9ovn6 How to locate the direct URL of a Google Video: Go to Google Video and find a video. View the page source code and search for the keyword ‘googleplayer‘. Copy and paste the videoUrl parameter (all of the characters after the keyword ‘videoUrl=’) Press

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Michael Sullivan
you are either missing the point or choosing to ignore it.either way, respectfully, you are still wrong.now where is my DXMOn 12/25/05, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look up semantics...--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 17:17:13 +0100, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/24/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think Tivo is Television. Classical television cannot not be automaticaly stored, retrieved, scanned and viewed out of order (this can be manually performmed with

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Joshua Kinberg
or install this greasemoneky script which does all that for you and provides a nice download link on the page so you can click and save as http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/archives/2005/11/greased_google.php -Josh On 12/25/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ho, Ho, ho! VIA:

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 17:17:13 +0100, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/24/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think Tivo is Television. Classical television cannot not be automaticaly

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 01:07:51 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The factor of compelling is larger and different on a large monitor or screen at a distance. This allows an immersion and presence for the media piece not presently available on computer screens. What is missing is a

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 01:07:51 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The factor of compelling is larger and different on a large monitor or screen at a distance. This allows an immersion and presence for the

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread wtrainbow
I understand the point - I'm justing trying to challenge it because I don't ascribe to the McLuhan medium is the massage worldview which seems at the root of the debate. In my assessment, the same video played in different contexts does not necessitate new designations for each context. A

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand the point - I'm justing trying to challenge it because I don't ascribe to the McLuhan medium is the massage worldview which seems at the root of the debate. In my assessment, the same video played in

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Joshua Kinberg
The social experiences in each of these contexts you describe is very different. The audio waveforms may not change, but your experience does. -Josh On 12/25/05, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand the point - I'm justing trying to challenge it because I don't ascribe to the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 01:40:41 +0100, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand the point - I'm justing trying to challenge it because I don't ascribe to the McLuhan medium is the massage worldview which seems at the root of the debate. In my assessment, the same video played in

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The social experiences in each of these contexts you describe is very different. Exactly. From a piece I wrote on the video iPod: [The video iPod's] interest lies in its capacity for qualitatively changing the way

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-25 Thread Michael Sullivan
honestly, whatever thoughts I have regurgitated are not via McLuhanistic backing.I do like some of McLuhan... in particular my favorite quote is: The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born Only because it echoes my experimental

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-24 Thread Enric
I don't think Tivo is Television. Classical television cannot not be automaticaly stored, retrieved, scanned and viewed out of order (this can be manually performmed with programming recorders -- but just about anything can be put into a manual process.) So I think this is an intermediate medium

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-24 Thread wtrainbow
This makes no sense at all. In fact by your own definitions you don't get the right to assert that you are a videoblogger. If I consume your video posts exclusively through iTunes or Fireant you're saying it isn't a videoblog it's a videocast??? Conversely, if you published epsiodes of Punky

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-24 Thread Michael Sullivan
Will,you are wrong.Andreas is right.I have also been conveying the same thoughts for months.That is why in the debates on definitions and language, I had pushed for the realization of two terms to use.videoblogging and vodcasting (aka video podcasting, video on demand) Most videobloggers have a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-24 Thread Richard Bennett-Forrest
Will, you are wrong. Andreas is right. Michael you're wrong. Will is right. ...because I say so. -- Vlog: http://www.kashum.com Feed: http://www.kashum.com/rss2.xml Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-24 Thread Michael Sullivan
i dont trust a guy with blue hair.LOLg'nightOn 12/25/05, Richard Bennett-Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Will,you are wrong.Andreas is right.Michael you're wrong. Will is rightbecause I say so.--Vlog: http://www.kashum.comFeed: http://www.kashum.com/rss2.xml Yahoo!

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited

2005-12-23 Thread Michael Sullivan
it's like this.millions use the internet. they use it in 2 primary ways. email and web browsing. even the email is often done in the web environment. RSS equally can keep the focus in the web environment as it is used to syndicate content across the web on sites who aggregate that content.