Re: [Vim-l] auto complete help

Brett wrote: Hi guys, I'm wondering how I can get VIM autocomplete to list all the mysqli functions in PHP. It has some but not all, for (e.g.) mysqli_connect_error is there but mysqli_connect is not is there a way to fix this?? This mailing list is pretty dormant, and its purpose is to

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

Please consider the pages recommended for deletion: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion Next Tuesday I intend deleting the pages listed. There are a couple of particularly unhelpful old tips in the list, but I now have a new way of dealing with unwanted existing tips: I

Re: [Vim-l] Rich text editor

Benjamin Fritz wrote: To disable the new editor for a single article you can use the special word __NOWYSIWYG__ (Note: The new editor system will still be loaded, but will be locked to 'source' mode.) I imagine we could put this keyword in our TipNew, TipImported, and TipProposed templates

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

Next weekend I intend deleting all the stuff at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion Please reply if you see any problems, or edit the talk page of the above. Progress on the wiki is slow but steady. One positive sign is that it is now relatively easy to find reasonable

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

Please consider the pages recommended for deletion: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion On Wednesday 8 April I intend deleting the following obsolete pages (I anticipate this won't be controversial): All 11 Forum:xxx pages, and all 2 Talk:xxx pages, as currently listed.

Re: [Vim-l] Auto welcome

Benjamin Fritz wrote: I agree, and yes, I noticed. I've tried to update the auto-greeting with our existing welcome text and a note that we'll probably be dropping a message soon with any concerns or suggestions. That was a nice comment you added to the tip. Now we've got a case where a user

[Vim-l] Auto welcome

Any thoughts on the new auto-welcome system Wikia has introduced? We can configure the text it uses, and we can disable it (I'm a bit suspicious of anything cutsey, and my inclination is to disable it, but maybe I'm too curmudgeonly). One minute after a new user (registered or just an IP address)

[Vim-l] Vim Tips Wiki - Remove author?

Each tip on the wiki has a header. We've pruned some of the information that was originally imported from vim.org, and now we're wondering whether to also remove the author field. The wiki way of dealing with authorship is to use History, which records the edit summary, user name, and changes

[Vim-l] HTML character entities

Please bear in mind a new guideline when editing: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Special_text Summary: * Do not use lt; or gt; or amp; (for ). * Except: - use lt;q-args for q-args - use lt;S-F1 for S-F1 (and similar for S-Left, S-Tab etc) I have used a bot to remove HTML character

[Vim-l] Wiki software upgrade

Wikia are upgrading the software driving each wiki to MediaWiki 1.13.1. The main enhancement concerns moving a page (changing the title): Double redirects are automatically detected and fixed. For example, if A redirects to B, then you move B to C, the redirect on A will automatically be

[Vim-l] Help links now show Vim 7.2 docs

Vim 7.2.006 documentation has been placed on vimdoc by Dan Sharp, and he has copied my current CGI help script from vimplugin to vimdoc, and I have edited Template:Help to use vimdoc rather than vimplugin. Dan told me that he hopes to keep the documentation reasonably up to date in the future.

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

Next Sunday (in one week) I intend deleting all the stuff at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion Please reply if you see any problems, or edit the talk page of the above. The proposed deletions are fairly uncontroversial (mostly the info has been merged elsewhere). I'm

[Vim-l] New sysop

We have had quite a bit of spam lately. Wikia have been extremely helpful and have provided a couple of tools and a guard dog (aka Uberfuzzy). Thanks Angela and Uberfuzzy! However, I think we should have more than one active sysop. I have asked Fritzophrenic if he would accept a nomination to

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

Next Sunday (in one week) I intend deleting all the stuff at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion Please reply if you see any problems, or edit the talk page of the above. I've done quite a bit of pruning so it's a long list, but I think you'll find that the proposed

[Vim-l] Replacing short tips that rely on external links

Please help review what I've done at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_information This page contains links to tips that I think should be deleted (I haven't yet flagged those tips with {{delete}}). Underneath each link is a brief statement of the tip content (just a couple of external links). I

Re: [Vim-l] Ads in articles

Martin Tournoij wrote: Can't the Vim wiki be hosted at the Vim site (www.vim.org)? I don't understand how vim.org works, but it appears that www.vim.org is an alias for vhost.sourceforge.net, so only things that work on sourceforge as possible. I'm pretty sure that vim.org is not available

[Vim-l] New tips for May

Routine maintenance is important, so please help by adding a comment on what we should do with the proposed new tips at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:New_tips/200805 John ___ Vim-l mailing list Vim-l@wikia.com

Re: [Vim-l] Tips relying on external sites

hermitte wrote: Well, I wasn't much concerned about my site. Yesterday night, I was in search of examples. A better one is Dr Chip's site. It has been around for ages, which does not mean it will be here forever. See Sven Guckes' example: he had a wonderful site for vim users, but he did

Re: [Vim-l] Fwd: Tips relying on external sites

Erik Falor wrote: I can understand the dilemma relying on external sites presents. On one hand, as an author, I don't want to be responsible for maintaining tips on multiple sites. If I update a script or refine a tip, I don't want to have to update it twice, or thrice. Directing to an

Re: [Vim-l] Tips relying on external sites

hermitte wrote: So. What must we do about external links ? Must we rule about it and forbid them? I'm not very inclined to it. No! External links are fine. Your web site is one that I had in mind when I worded what it says on http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Create_a_new_tip any link

Re: [Vim-l] Character entities in wikitext

Benjamin Fritz wrote: I think the best advice would just be: Try it without anything special. Make sure to preview your work. If it looks funky, use lt; and gt; What - you don't want a 10-page dissertation!?? After stating your good advice, I might add a technical explanation along the

Re: [Vim-l] Character entities in wikitext

Angela wrote: This is because some HTML are allowed. s is struck out text and q is a quote. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:HTML_in_wikitext lists the tags that will render as HTML tags. The code for this part is at http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includ

Re: [Vim-l] Character entities in wikitext

Angela wrote: Wikia's version has been modified since users requested additional tags be allowed. 'abbr', 'acronym' 'del', 'ins', 'q' are also permitted. I've just updated http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:HTML with that information. Thanks again. For readers of this list: I'll write

[Vim-l] Character entities in wikitext

I've been wondering what to put in wikitext: CR (this works but is wrong), or lt;CRgt; (this is correct but confusing when editing) I'm trying to get some guidance on what the MediaWiki software does in this thread: http://lists.wikia.com/pipermail/wikia-l/2008-May/003053.html I suspect

[Vim-l] Current new tips are finished

I have finished processing the new tips for February, March and April. The accepted new tips have been promoted to use the TipNew template, and each has a tip id with previous/next navigation. We now have 1562 official tips. Please review the tips to be deleted (these are unwanted new tips). I

[Vim-l] Change TipNew to make Created a link

Each accepted new tip has the {{TipNew}} template which includes a subpage argument that identifies where the tip was discussed before being promoted to a new tip. I am thinking of modifying TipNew to make the Created field a link, which could be clicked to see the discussion. I have made a

[Vim-l] New tips - Feb, Mar, Apr

Please help finalise deciding the fate of proposed new tips for February, March and April. I have put an opinion for each tip, so I just need someone to agree to make a consensus. Of course if you're inclined to argue, that would be good too - you can add a comment on the article, or reply

Re: [Vim-l] New tips - Feb, Mar, Apr

Robert Melton wrote: I am still around and kicking, had a family emergency to attend to, that is why I vanished for a bit. Back home and catching up on everything since May 1st. Hope everything went reasonably well - I imagined some crisis had occurred. As for my tips, they are more in a

Re: [Vim-l] Need a {{subst:help}} template thingy

Benjamin Fritz wrote: With all the people asking for help on talk pages or tip comments, we usually end up referring them to the vim_use mail list or #vim channel. I think it would be useful to have a standard way of doing this. Someone should make a {{subst:help}} similar to our

Re: [Vim-l] Comment signing

Martin Tournoij wrote: I would to remind everyone to please sign your comments. Most of the regulars picked up the habit, but new people or people who only make a few occasional edits often forget to sign their comments. Hmmm. On talk pages, we are in total agreement: Sign your comments.

[Vim-l] Category lines

Many months ago we decided that lines like [[Category:Folding]] should be at the end of each tip. Accordingly, our category guidelines (http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Category_guidelines) say to put categories at the bottom of each tip, after a horizontal rule, at the end of the

[Vim-l] Remove Category:VimTipRedirects

We have VimTipNr pages that assist with tip navigation (previous/next). For example, tip 1 has pages: VimTip1 a redirect to the tip page The super star the page for tip 1 Also, Bram still has the original tips at vim.org, and each tip has a link to our VimTipNr page.

[Vim-l] Cpp is now C++

One small step... Page titles are now allowed to contain '+'. I have completed: - Renamed all tips with 'Cpp' in title to 'C++'. - Changed corresponding VimTip redirect pages. - Duplicated old category 'C plus plus' to new category:C++. - Flagged old category 'C plus plus' for deletion. -

Re: [Vim-l] Ideas go grow

Don Mitchell wrote: I wanted to comment on the recent thread about the Vim wiki front page and its usefulness. I was disappointed to see the old Vim Tips site go away, but glad to see them carried on here. However so far the wiki has failed to meet my needs. I think it's turned into a good

Re: [Vim-l] Ideas go grow

Angela wrote: Wikia has a wiki-to-blog feature, so if you wanted to post a featured tip each day on the wiki, you could send it to the blog which lets people subscribe by RSS or email. Let me know if this would be helpful. Another option is to use the featured article API to extract this

Re: [Vim-l] Root Category

Benjamin Fritz wrote: Perhaps some explanation is needed on how to browse Yes - I should be able to clean up that text next week. And also the 'Todo list' that you mentioned elsewhere. John ___ Vim-l mailing list Vim-l@wikia.com

Re: [Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

I'm getting more wikified. While wondering where to file the info I earlier posted on how to delete a redirect, I realised I should do it on the wiki: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Delete_guidelines John ___ Vim-l mailing list

Re: [Vim-l] Text editor

Timothy Bedding wrote: I am looking for a text editor for Windows which I can launch using editor -ontop file.txt editor -ontop file2.txt to give two Windows, one showing the contents of file.txt and the other the contents of file2.txt This mailing list is intended for discussion of

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

I'm planning to delete the articles listed at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion If anyone wants to comment, please do so within three days. As per the talk page, I will first move the content of the new tip

Re: [Vim-l] Fix random page

Angela wrote: I've set this. I clicked Special:Random about 50 times and didn't see any starting with VimTip so I assume it's working, but let me know if it's not. Thanks Angela! Looks good to me. Now we just have to clean up all the tips... John

Re: [Vim-l] Tip templates project

Santhalus wrote: Do you use some automata for the pre-wrapping and code indenting or do it manually? Tip: When doing code formatting manually I found it often more convenient to copy/paste the content from the original vim tip than modify the code in the imported version - this way you can

[Vim-l] Fix random page

Santhalus has recently described a major problem and how it might be fixed. Here is a summary with some additional details that I've researched. Fixing the problem requires help from the wikia staff, so please comment on the following as we need consensus before approaching them. ---Problem---

Re: [Vim-l] Tip templates project

Santhalus wrote: Does the Wikia use the mediawiki engine or it's own custom engine? ... parameter for filtering the results ($wgExtraRandompageSQL) The problem of 'Random page' sometimes picking missing pages is serious, and deserves our attention. I know nothing about the above questions.

[Vim-l] Cpp category

What did we decide about [[Category:C plus plus]]? Do we want to change all occurrences to [[Category:Cpp]]? I'm thinking we should clean this up soon, preferably before inviting the vim mailing list to work. I think it would be simple for me to pretty accurately do the change, if we agree.

Re: [Vim-l] Tip templates project

Santhalus wrote: I think it's a very clever idea. Right now, awfully lots of imported tips are completely broken and this will hopefully remedy this situation. Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I fixed two tips broken by '|' last week, and the new template business would eliminate that. I'm

Re: [Vim-l] Browsing Categories

Benjamin Fritz wrote: It seems to me that browsing through the categories would probably be a very nice way to find tips for a certain topic. But, doing this is not at all obvious. From the main page, you need to go to Special Pages and from there click Categories. I thought Category:Browse

Re: [Vim-l] Email addresses in tips

Sebastian Menge wrote: I'm not suggesting we should ban addresses - just remove them from the old imported tips. I don't see why: simple obfuscation is good enough for harvesters (I read about it at the FAQ of http://gmane.org). But if you want to do it, why not ... So I see no pros and

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

Santhalus wrote: What do we want? Rename and keep the old pages? Or, rename and delete the old pages? How? What about links to old pages by their old title (not VimTipNumber but the one we change)? There might exist some places on the wiki and/or on external sites/mailing list which link by

Re: [Vim-l] collaboration of the month

Sebastian Menge wrote: As soon as John is done with the Titles Project I've posted about that in the Titles project thread. I'd like to start the following process for collaboration of the month (presumably starting with November) That would be great. However, I think we should approach Bram

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

Santhalus wrote: I was just pondering on the nuances between create and make and colorscheme and color scheme. Good point - I see the Vim docs consistently say color scheme. I think you'll like 178 below. I'm also inserting a space in 'colorscheme' in 358 which is the only other title (in

Re: [Vim-l] Please delete candidates for deletion

Sebastian Menge wrote: Seb - There are 26 articles waiting for the axe: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion done. Thanks. I have prepared the VimTip {{removed}} pages to fix the redirects. However, I can't upload them at the moment. I'm having trouble because my ISP

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

Santhalus wrote: Here is a couple more for tips between 1-300. We need more thought on the following. Please consider and post again. 106 Mail signature rotation: Supersimple one-line solution 106 Mail signature rotation -- 106 Make vim rotate signatures in your mails # ??? # to make it

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

Santhalus wrote: Here is a couple more for tips between 1-300. Thanks Santhalus. Let's deal with the easy ones: OK 28 Insert line numbers OK 35 Translate between single line and block comments OK 81 Substitute characters and lines easily OK 97 Insert current date or time OK 104 Capture SQL

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

Santhalus wrote: Now when I understand the tip, I think the original title 'Using /pattern/ search in a script' got the point pretty well. Maybe we could tweak it only a little to get around the slashes: -- 316 Using pattern search in a script -- 316 Using regex search in a script -- 316

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

Santhalus wrote: I'm not sure about the -ing form. Do you want to change all titles to -ing or have rules when to keep each? I don't have a firm view. My thinking is: - Omit noise words where reasonable. - Put point of tip close to beginning of title. Consider my suggestion (which needs Using

[Vim-l] Help fix mess from trying to move a page

I need help to clean up a mess from my attempts to move a page. As mentioned recently, I'm working on renaming many tips. I wanted to settle the question whether a title can contain C++, or whether we have to use some work-around such as Cpp (we currently use C PLUS PLUS). In the move log, the

Re: [Vim-l] Workflow

Santhalus wrote: could add templates like: {{SuggestedTitle|A new, cool and funky title}} which would be then automagically collected on some SpecialPage:SuggestedTitles for review and bot processing later on. That's a seriously good idea. Ditto for the {{SuggestedCategory}}. Your other

Re: [Vim-l] Duplicates or not (gf(1075) and :find(1146))

hermitte wrote: I'd like your opinion on two tips. - Tip 1075: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/VimTip1075 - Tip 1146: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Project_browsing_using_find. I know there is another script... If it's a tip, perhaps: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/VimTip1432 So. Merging? Not merging?

Re: [Vim-l] coordinate our work?

Sebastian Menge wrote: I thought about howto involve more people from [EMAIL PROTECTED] for categorization. (That's so easy, everyone can help). Good luck - no doubt you noticed me trying to get some interest there. Tough work! People are quite happy to put a bunch of effort into an answer to

[Vim-l] New code guidelines (use pre.../pre)

Please review the following changes (I'm a bit nervous about the Golden Rules because of the fact that it is automatically displayed when a new tip is created). http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Golden_Rules http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Code_guidelines I did some quick tests on

Re: [Vim-l] Category:VimL and/or Category:Scripting ?

hermitte wrote: Want do you think about a Category:VimL (child of LanguageSpecific) dedicated to how to help us scripting in VimL? While an attractive idea, wouldn't we then have the issue we've been discussing on C and C++? That is, take a tip on Vim scripting: would you put it in

Re: [Vim-l] C, C++, C# Categories and titles

Olivier Teuliere wrote: C++ tips do not necessarily apply to C as well OK. So let's agree on how this will look. At the bottom of any tip useful for C or C++ we would put: [[Category:C]] [[Category:C_plus_plus]] That's two lines (I suppose). Let's do it in the above order rather than decide

Re: [Vim-l] C, C++, C# Categories and titles

Why not just have one category named C? I'm cleaning up the categories, mainly by using CatInfo for standardisation, and to apply Bastl's nice statistics button. Then I came to the C category and I succumbed to temptation to see how the text would look if written my way. Please have a look at

Re: [Vim-l] bots

Olivier Teuliere wrote: BTW I think it's {{!}} for bar, not {{|}}. {{!}} does not seem to work either though (but the html escape code does). Thanks for the reminder. I got the use {{!}} for bar rule from the wiki documentation and tried it, and noticed the problem you mention, and forgot

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

Please see the discussion on some possibly to-be-deleted tips at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category_talk:Candidates_for_deletion John ___ Vim-l mailing list Vim-l@wikia.com http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/vim-l

[Vim-l] Fix Category reference in Statistics

Sebastian - You let someone on vim_use know that PHP tips are at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:PHP I looked at that page to see what was there, and noticed a slight bug. You have recently made a bot which gathers statistics, for example:

Re: [Vim-l] New guidelines (policies) for editing tips

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are times where the talk page is more suited than any other media. Yes I agree. The question concerns how often the talk page is more suited than just adjusting the comments, in the case of most old tips. I looked through 'candidates for deletion' recently and

Re: [Vim-l] bots

Olivier Teuliere wrote: You could escape special characters in the tips. For example, replace [[ with nowiki[[/nowiki and | (inside the Tip template) with {{|}}. Why don't we just abandon the {{{text}}} parameter of Template:Tip? Is there any point to having the body of the tip as a