Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

2012-09-17 Thread Gerardo Corripio
If Apple will continue as is on naking its products accessible is exactly wasI was asking myself awhile ago, especially with the talk these past few days on here about the App store breaking Voiceover accessible, as I asked myself what could I expect on ny next IPhone in Febuary of 2014 when th

Re: Apple is on it!

2012-09-17 Thread Pete Nalda
I just downloaded the 10.7 version of iTunes for mac os xÎ, and it looks no different than previous versions. On Sep 18, 2012, at 12:01 AM, Scott Van Gorp wrote: > Good evening List: > I just saw an update from the applevis twitter feed. Apparently most issues > with the app store are now fixed

RE: Apple is on it!

2012-09-17 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Yes! Much, much better now, even to the extent that the update button, when pressed changes its status to waiting and downloading as the update process proceeds. I was able to flick through the results of a search, and double tapping on that result gave me the app I was expecting. Today versus ye

RE: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

2012-09-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Joanne, Apple stresses "accessibility" as a concept which means not just accessibility for the blind or visually impaired, but also for those with hearing impairments, physical impairments and even those with mental and learning disabilities. Throw all of those numbers in a pot and they are not so

RE: Apple is on it!

2012-09-17 Thread Scott Van Gorp
I don't have 6.0, so all I'm doing here is reporting what Applevis has tweeted. I guess we'll see what happens in 24 hours or so. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:15 AM To: viphone@googlegro

RE: Apple is on it!

2012-09-17 Thread Daniel Miller
Try all of them, from what I can see. The stores are supposed to auto-scrol themselves, rendering the scrolling gestures of VoiceOver inopperable. Keep in mind, though, that's the intended behavior. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Van Gorp Sen

RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-17 Thread Daniel Miller
It was the dmg files that apple uses for builds that get posted to the dev portals, so no, it was completely real. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:04 AM To: viphone@googlegro

Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-17 Thread James Mannion
Hmm, what was it? Do you know for sure from a particular source? Is it harmful? Jim On 9/17/12, Scott Howell wrote: > Was not at all legit and if anyone downloaded this supposed GM copy, there > may be functionality broken or other issues. > > On Sep 16, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Cristobal wrote: > >>

Apple is on it!

2012-09-17 Thread Scott Van Gorp
Good evening List: I just saw an update from the applevis twitter feed. Apparently most issues with the app store are now fixed in IOS 6! This came in about 4 minutes ago. Cordially: Scott Van Gorp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Gr

RE: revert to previous iOS procedure question

2012-09-17 Thread Frank Ventura
No it would not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:45 PM To: Viphone Subject: revert to previous iOS procedure question Hi, I am considering upgrading my iphone 4 to iOS 6 but thinking of down-grading

RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who o

re: Voiceover coming through the earpiece when headset is unplugged.

2012-09-17 Thread Joshua Klander
Hello. This happens to me sometimes as well (not only with earphones, but with docking stations as well). However, I have found an easy fix. If you have the zello app installed, simply open it, and set it to speaker mode. Now, voiceover audio will come through the correct speaker again. If

Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
Hello, My understanding is that The initial spoken track information which was added to songs (if requested) was set up primarily for blind people. This occurred a few years after Apple brought accessibility inhouse, and the iPods did not have the processing power for a full screen reader as Ap

Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
Hello, First, don't confuse timelines. Original Android accessibility was only with physical buttons and keyboards, and this was after VO was released on the iPhone. Before VO was released on the iPhone, it was known that accessibility was not very possible on a touch-screen. In other words, t

Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, all Braille devices are treated the same in iOS. Set VO voice to US English for BANA rules. I prefer the precise nature of computer Braille where I can easily mix characters, numbers, case, punctuation, Etc., without worrying about rules, exceptions, and special identifiers. David Chitt

Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
When in contracted braille, iOS waits half a second after typing, or pressing the space bar, to run the input through its contraction translation. I do not have any problems spelling some things out or mixing uncontracted and contracted as long as I wait that half second for the buffer to clear.

RE: AtBat

2012-09-17 Thread Richard Turner
No. Have you checked your app switcher? Are you using Wi-Fi or data? I can switch games and it takes maybe 3 to 5 seconds to get the new broadcast. This is over Wi-Fi with a 4S. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eri

RE: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

2012-09-17 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
My memory may be failing me, but I seem to recall, at a time--perhaps 2004--something like RockBox was software to make the Ipod Classic accessible with speech, that I heard Apple was developing what became known as VoiceOver primarily as a way for sighted folks to navigate their iPod's while ot

Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

2012-09-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain
How do you know Apple wouldn't have lost any educational or governmental contracts if they hadn't made IOS accessible? I recall a situation where the DoJ blocked the use of Kindles (at least I think it was Kindles) to distribute text books as ebooks. Plus, more and more businesses are using and req

Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

2012-09-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
The issue of blind folk and touch screens is quite fascinating. I've always had trouble with spatial orientation, and if it weren't for the constant audible feedback, I'd get losT on a Magic Trackpad for the Mac or the screen on my IPOD. That said, I am really beginning to appreciate the spatial

AtBat

2012-09-17 Thread Eric SS
Anyone else having issues since updating? Tonight, it is taking 5 to 10 minutes, yes minutes, to switch screens or start a broadcast. I just did the update last night, but I think it was a very recent posting. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google

Re: apps and folders?

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, the limit is 12 with the current iPhone. I would not be surprised if the limit becomes 16 for the iPhone 5 since the iPhone 5 will have another row of apps added to each page. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/20

Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
Hello, Please forgive my cynicism in my final statement of those poor blind people. I am preparing my proposal for my doctoral research. My proposed topic is how are blind people able to adapt to touch screen devices, so I am currently reading all the academic and professional research I can fi

RE: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-17 Thread Rich Cavallaro
That is incorrect. As I have stated in a previous post, both models of the focus 40 blue, the classic and the new one just released this summer work with IOS 5.1.1 The one that does not work with IOS 5.1.1 is the new focus 14 blue display. That display I am sure will work with IOS 6. So, two of the

Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-17 Thread VaShaun Jones
Nope its only on iOS6 On Sep 17, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote: > I had heard that the focus displays don't work with the current ios. > Can anyone verify this? > > Kimber > > On 9/16/12, VaShaun Jones wrote: >> It does. I've ordered one but its on back order or they just haven't star

RE: apps and folders?

2012-09-17 Thread sabrina Giles
Hi Andy, Thanks that's kind of what I figured was going on. 'Sabrina From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: apps and folders? The limit is 12. Andy

Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

2012-09-17 Thread Joanne Chua
Hi David, If that is the case of what you said, we "poor blind people", why Apple should care on putting voiceover in their touch screen products? Not only that, Apple also advertise that their products are friendly to people with access needs. Just a thought Regards Joanne On 18/09/2012, David

you mail concerns.

2012-09-17 Thread Mary Ellen Sanchez
Hello I have a you mail account set up. I can't figure how to get to the next screen and also I would like help on understanding how to check my voice mail and record a greeting as well. any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhon

sorry if off topic, question about mac book air

2012-09-17 Thread dan thompson
I am looking for some mp3 file tutorials regarding mountain lion on the mac book air and just general directions on using the device. I am familiar with the keys in quick nav on the wireless keyboard and a few on the Mac book Air. But wish to get information from other visually impaired users

can I label a screen shot?

2012-09-17 Thread Jodie Hoger
Hi List, I have worked out that if I take a screen shot of an image PDF that has been emailed to me, I can then go into one of my ocr apps like image to text and find the photo and have it converted to text for me. I was very excited to have worked this out however I am wondering whether there i

Re: apps and folders?

2012-09-17 Thread Andy Baracco
The limit is 12. Andy From: sabrina Giles Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: apps and folders? Hi list So, I’ve created a social folder in my IPhone that has 12 items. When I try and put another app in this folder the phone refuses it. Is there so

Re: apps and folders?

2012-09-17 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
The limit is 12. -- Raul A. Gallegos My grandmother started walking five miles a day when she was sixty. She's ninety-seven now, and we don't know where the hell she is. - Ellen DeGeneres Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

Re: apps and folders?

2012-09-17 Thread Jodie Hoger
Hi there. Yes, there is a limit of 12 apps for the iphone and 16 for the ipad. I have had to create extra folders and add a 2 at the end of the second heading on my phone. HTH, Jo Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 11:35 AM, "sabrina Giles" wrote: > Hi list > So, I’ve created a social f

apps and folders?

2012-09-17 Thread sabrina Giles
Hi list So, I've created a social folder in my IPhone that has 12 items. When I try and put another app in this folder the phone refuses it. Is there some sort of limit of how many apps a folder can hold? Thanks, Sabrina ' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPh

RE: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6

2012-09-17 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
I totally agree with you and look at the difference in the price as well. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 5:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: a warning to voice over

moderator reminder about straying posts - Was Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?

2012-09-17 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, thanks for this, but let's keep in mind that this is an iOS list. And so, it's really best to keep things on topic, meaning iOS related. -- Raul A. Gallegos - VIPhone Moderator When people say, "Clean as a whistle," they often forget that a whistle is full of spit. - George Carlin Home Pag

Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
The fact is, blindness, including legal blindness, is between .5% and .6% of the world population. We are a very tiny minority of any population. Many companies have discontinued products which were very popular amongst the blind because the sighted were not interested. We do not matter when con

Deleting appp updates?

2012-09-17 Thread David Gross
There is a update in the appvstore I don't want. Can it be deleted? Using vo and Iphone 3gs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this

Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was "Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6"]

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
You are correct for the Mac. For iOS devices, however, this is not the case. Most of the professional proofs and studies clearly demonstrated that blind peepul, as a whole, did not have the necessary spatial awareness, and attempting to memorise, without good tactile clues, would be almost impos

RE: Sluggish iPhone voice over

2012-09-17 Thread Jesus Garcia
though on very infrequent instances you may have to power down the phone and after powering back try the app clearing command. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 20:38 To: viphone

RE: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?

2012-09-17 Thread Jesus Garcia
You know I had not even considered that probably five times the price of the phone. And have a key code to boot so if you lost your phone or had it stolen, you would have to pay another 100 bucks to get a new key. LOL -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@google

Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
Sure, CF demonstrated that blind people could spatially conceive four buttons on a touch-screen without any tactile feedback. The professionals were too busy proving why this was impossible. Apple merely completely rewrote the entire paradigm by advancing it a few generations in one swoop and t

RE: revert to previous iOS procedure question

2012-09-17 Thread Daniel Miller
They say you can't, but you can, if you know how to do it. Why else would they leave the previous version signed for a week after the newest one is released? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeffry miller Sent: Monday, Septemb

Re: YouTube app

2012-09-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, you can also double tap on the guide button and double tap on the sign in link. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 17, 2012, at 7:03 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > Double tap and hold pass through, listen for the ascending t

Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?

2012-09-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
lol. I was thinking the same thing. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 17, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: > Well, if it comes to fruition it will probably cost more than the phone. > > > Sent from my Verizon iPhone! > > On

Re: Sluggish iPhone voice over

2012-09-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, no, and no. The only way to clear the app switcher is to do a double tap and hold, then double tap on the apps shown in the app switcher. Restarting your device will not clear the switcher. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On

Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6

2012-09-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I really do think, the amount of voiceover users using IOS and Macs, is the often mentioned drop in the bucket as far as pure numbers are concerned. I'm not saying we are any more or less important than the average user. I'm just saying, lets not over estimate our numbers, or, scheme in

Re: What's Edge?

2012-09-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
edge is the 2nd generation cellular data network. Basically, the thing people used commonly before 3G. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote: > Hi lsters > I went in the IPhone status area

What's Edge?

2012-09-17 Thread Gerardo Corripio
Hi lsters I went in the IPhone status area to check the battery, and next to where it gives the carrier's name, anicon vy the name Edge shows! How did it get there, and what does it mean? Thanks in advance for any info. Hope it's nothing serious; a little over 2 months with my IPhone. Enviado

Re: a good app to get rid of phone calls you don't want

2012-09-17 Thread jeffry miller
will it also work for other people you don't want to be gbothered with?that app sounds cool -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post

Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6

2012-09-17 Thread Joanne Chua
Hi, It might seems like there're only 100,000 vip iphone users in the states, however, lets not forget those who's not in the states, and who is using the iphone as much as the vip users in the states. More so, perhaps 50% of these user, (those who users an iphone) would have second Apple product

Re: revert to previous iOS procedure question

2012-09-17 Thread jeffry miller
oh really i didn't know that one. -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To

Re: revert to previous iOS procedure question

2012-09-17 Thread jeffry miller
no once you upgrade they say you can't go back. -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googleg

Re: revert to previous iOS procedure question

2012-09-17 Thread jeffry miller
no once you upgrade your existing phone you can not go back to IOS 5. -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send e

Re: YouTube app

2012-09-17 Thread Jen Colley
What about sharing to facebook. I get a message when I try to share to facebook saying that the app isn’t configured for facebook but it has my facebook info highlighted. Jen From: Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: YouTube ap

RE: Sluggish iPhone voice over

2012-09-17 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Did I understand correctly that a power off and restart clears the app switcher? Is there any (other) way to clear the app switcher of all apps with a single gesture? Thanks in advance. keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf O

Re: a good app to get rid of phone calls you don't want

2012-09-17 Thread May and Noah
Sounds like a cool app. Problem with it for me is that those annoying calls come in when I'm in class and can't answer my phone, lol May and Prince Noah Personal Playground www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca On 2012-09-17, at 7:06 PM, Rebecca Ilniski wrote: > my phone rings 8 times befor

Re: Sluggish iPhone voice over

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
That depends on which hardware you are running. For the 3GS, I expect it will become a bit more sluggish. I also expect the same for the 4, though I doubt it will be as noticeable. For the 4S, I do not expect any slowdown from this upgrade. However, I expect the new 5 will run faster. Last year

Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?

2012-09-17 Thread Anthony Vece
Well, if it comes to fruition it will probably cost more than the phone. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:09 PM, "Tara Prakash" wrote: > I heard some rumors that Freedom scientific is going to come up with its own > Jwas version for windows 8. > - Original Message -

Re: failed to backup on i cloud

2012-09-17 Thread Robert Fenton
You can turn on wireless while you are in airplane mode. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-09-17, at 5:10 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Robert, > Do you mean you went in to airplane mode, then came back out of that mode > and turned on wireless access? Once in airplane mode, I don't see how > wireless

Re: Sluggish iPhone voice over

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
As you use more apps, memory will fragment, no matter how smart the underlying computer OS is. What you experienced is the advanced results of that fragmentation. Clearing the app switcher will greatly lessen it. Rebooting the iPhone, like rebooting any computer, will reset the memory pointers a

RE: a good app to get rid of phone calls you don't want

2012-09-17 Thread CD
Oh OK thanks. I'll have to have Verizon change my rings to eight. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Ilniski Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: a good app to get rid of ph

RE: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-17 Thread Mary-Jo Lord
Hi David, How does your phone handle the combination of contracted and uncontracted Braille? Since I use a PC most of the time, I am used to spelling words out, but might find some of the Braille contractions convenient if I would remember to use them. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.

RE: a good app to get rid of phone calls you don't want

2012-09-17 Thread Cristobal
I would agree, but just pressing the volume buttons will silence the ringtone and remove that noise factor. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Suzanne Wilson Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: a good app to get rid of phone calls you don't want

2012-09-17 Thread Rebecca Ilniski
Nope there's only 3 buttons so it's not cumbersome for me. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com twitter: zebs_mom facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the

Re: failed to backup on i cloud

2012-09-17 Thread Mary Otten
Robert, Do you mean you went in to airplane mode, then came back out of that mode and turned on wireless access? Once in airplane mode, I don't see how wireless access did anything, since airplane mode shuts it down. Or so I thought. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this m

Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6

2012-09-17 Thread Scott Howell
I don't feel that is relevant and no I do not take anything from CF as far as what they accomplished. I do not believe though that Apple took anything from what CF learned. On Sep 17, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > But you will agree or some of you will, Code Factory did start the

Re: a good app to get rid of phone calls you don't want

2012-09-17 Thread Suzanne Wilson
Rebecca, Isn't it cumbersome to get into the app and push the appropriate buttons while the phone is ringing? It seems like by the time you unlock your phone and go through those steps, the call will have already gone to your voice mail. Suzanne - Original Message - From: "Rebecca

Re: a good app to get rid of phone calls you don't want

2012-09-17 Thread Rebecca Ilniski
my phone rings 8 times before my voice mail kicks in so I have plenty of time to access it. It's on page 2 for me. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com twitter: zebs_mom facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you ar

Re: failed to backup on i cloud

2012-09-17 Thread Mary Otten
I've had this same issue with trying to back up my IPad. My back ups proceeded without a hitch until 5 weeks ago when I started getting the warnings about not enough space to back up. The warning is completely unhelpful, as it gives 0 info about any details. It just says to go to manage backups

RE: Introduction

2012-09-17 Thread Lisa Larges
Hi ezzie, When you get your phone, what you are going to do to get voice over started is to hit the "home button" 3 times quickly. The home button is a round button inset on the screen itself; it's the only button on the actual screen. Clicking the button 3 times quickly will start voice over tal

Re: YouTube app

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
Double tap and hold pass through, listen for the ascending triple tone, then swipe right before lifting your finger. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 8:22, "Alex Stone" wrote: > I’ve just downloaded the new

Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-17 Thread Suzanne Wilson
David, Is it possible to write standard contracted American Braille? If so, what would be the situations when computer Braille is preferable? Is this true regardless of the Braille device? Suzanne - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sen

RE: revert to previous iOS procedure question

2012-09-17 Thread Daniel Miller
You will, but only for a week. It's been stated that apple keeps the previous version of iOS signed for a week, so downgrade at your own risk. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, September 17, 20

Re: revert to previous iOS procedure question

2012-09-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain
and has been discussed on this and other lists, you won't be able to downgrade to IOS 5.1.1 after upgrading to IOS 6. On 17/09/12 17:50, Rich Cavallaro wrote: > Hi, > > In regards to maps, you won’t get the new maps features on the 4 in > regards to turn by turn. > > Only 4s and 5 users will get

Re: revert to previous iOS procedure question

2012-09-17 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Yep, but say the app store issue is not working out, can I down-grade by restoring to older backup? Thanks, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: > Hi, > > I am considering upgrading my i

RE: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-17 Thread Rich Cavallaro
Hi David and list, Actually, here is the status of the focus line of Bluetooth braille displays. The new focus line-the focus 40 blue does as does the classic model works with IOS as of today. However, the focus 14 blue will not work with IOS 5.1.1 I am betting with IOS 6 it will however. Rich Cava

RE: revert to previous iOS procedure question

2012-09-17 Thread Rich Cavallaro
Hi, In regards to maps, you won't get the new maps features on the 4 in regards to turn by turn. Only 4s and 5 users will get that feature. Rich Cavallaro From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:45 PM

RE: a good app to get rid of phone calls you don't want

2012-09-17 Thread CD
How can you access it fast enough before you answer or it goes to voice mail. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Ilniski Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: a good app to get r

revert to previous iOS procedure question

2012-09-17 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi, I am considering upgrading my iphone 4 to iOS 6 but thinking of down-grading if it is too slow or maps don't work nicely. If I restore to backup from previous day would this return 5.1.1? Thanks for your help. Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most onlin

a good app to get rid of phone calls you don't want

2012-09-17 Thread Rebecca Ilniski
Hi all. I just downloaded an app from the app store called Disconnected Telemarketers. In the app there are three buttons that are labeled nicely they are play, pause, and stop. . You open the app and hit play. The message This number has been disconnected please try your call again later

Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-17 Thread David Chittenden
This is incorrect. Focus Bluetooth braille displays work with iOS devices. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 2:39, Kimber Gardner wrote: > I had heard that the focus displays don't work with the current ios.

Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?

2012-09-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain
According to http://www.minyanville.com/sectors/technology/articles/thestreet-AAPL-GOOG-MSFT-RIMM-NOK/9/17/2012/id/44075 Windows 8 is the traditional Windows for Intel/AMD chips covering PC's, laptops and tablets. Windows RT (formerly Windows for ARM) will initially only be available on tablets,

RE: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6

2012-09-17 Thread Regina Alvarado
Agreed Scott. The learning curve is quite steep with iPhone, but once you begin to achieve what you need to do, it is pretty amazing, down to taking pictures of things and finding out what they are. Now, I am still learning, and I have the time to learn. I also know that younger folks have grown

RE: Michael quach aps

2012-09-17 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi, I looked this guy up in the iTunes store and found the following, some of this looks good (if the "books" are accessible): iTunes store Michael Quach Description: Best Diet Foods Best Diet Foods Medical FREE Updated May 22, 2012 Description: Love Quotes 500 Love Quotes 500 Books Updated May

RE: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?

2012-09-17 Thread Daniel Miller
Freedom Scientific has made no mention of JAWS for Windows RT, which is the version of Windows 8 that will run on arm-based hardware. I know I'm not a moderator, but I'm sure they'd want this topic closed, since it has nothing whatsoever to do with iOS or iOS devices. -Original Message-

Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?

2012-09-17 Thread Kevin Barry
Great. slow and full of random features. At 06:09 PM 9/17/2012, you wrote: I heard some rumors that Freedom scientific is going to come up with its own Jwas version for windows 8. - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 5:30 PM Subject

Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?

2012-09-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I did some quick googling, and there seems to be a lot of confusion between Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8. First, they aren't the same operating system and Windows 8 will not run on a handset. check out: http://www.zdnet.com/is-windows-8-phone-confusion-good-for-microsoft-703777/ Windows Phone

Re: Introduction

2012-09-17 Thread Gerardo Corripio
no: when I say triple tap I mean tapping the only button that's on the phone; it's near the bottom if you have it right. El 17/09/2012 02:13 p.m., Ezzie Ez escribió: Thank you for the warm welcome! I expect to get my new phone in October. So do you just tripple tap anywhere on the screen and V

Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?

2012-09-17 Thread Ed Worrell
Windows phone 8 will be running windows 8 rt On Sep 17, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > I think we're getting windows 8 confused with windows Phone 8. From what > I've read, Windows Phone 8 will have no built-in screen reader for the > visually impaired. But alas, I digress, seeing as th

Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?

2012-09-17 Thread Tara Prakash
I heard some rumors that Freedom scientific is going to come up with its own Jwas version for windows 8. - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release? J

Re: Sluggish iPhone voice over

2012-09-17 Thread Kevin Barry
How would an upcoming upgrade affect the performance of your hardware? At 08:19 AM 9/17/2012, you wrote: Hello all, Has anyone noticed in the last two days that voice over has become much more sluggish? Is this because of the new version coming this week? I an going to turn off my phone agai

Re: YouTube app

2012-09-17 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Alex. If you double tap on the guide button, you should be able to sign in and what not. HTH. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book On 2012-09-17, at 3:29 PM, viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the V

Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?

2012-09-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain
When you say MS has been promising accessibility for years, what products are you talking about? As far back as the 90's MS's public policy has been to work with 3rd party screen reader vendors to produce screen readers for Windows. I think they've delivered on this policy. It may not be as ideal a

Re: failed to backup on i cloud

2012-09-17 Thread Robert Fenton
I had this problem too. I got my phone backed up by putting it in airplane node end then turning on wireless access. Try that and see what happens. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-09-18, at 3:41 PM, "Ramy Moustafa" wrote: > No, I just need to backup my contacts, calendar, notes, reminders. > I ha

Re: i-phone case with slide-out keyboard.

2012-09-17 Thread Tracy
Yes, I also have one of those. What I did was mark the f and j with colourless cutex, just a tiny dot on each one, for easier navigation. I also had the manual scanned, if anyone wants it. - Original Message - From: Fred Olver To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September

keyboard cases for iPhone 5

2012-09-17 Thread Alex Wallis
Hi list, Just wondering has anyone read any information about keyboard cases for the iPhone 5? I haven't come across anything as of yet. Ideally I would like a keyboard similar to the nuu minikey case which is designed for iPhones up to the 4s. many thanks for any help, Alex. -- You received

Re: New iPhone user and new to iTunes

2012-09-17 Thread Charlotte
I do have a Windows computer. The ringtones are on my iPhone and I don't know how to get them off. They're in a ringtones app. On 9/17/2012 9:49 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote: Hi Charlotte, First, are you working on a Mac or Windows computer? Second, do your ringtones show in your iTunes library?

Re: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?

2012-09-17 Thread Wayne Merritt
I haven't thought I would use Siri very much, but after reading the list of things added, I can see myself using it a little on the new iPhone. If I want to know what's on my calendar, then I can always look in the notification center for that, or even in the calendar if there are a lot of appointm

Re: zelo

2012-09-17 Thread Garth Humphreys
Hi Rob The setting is there. It is just called Remote Control. It needs to be turned on. It is under the heading Audio. All the settings are on one page under various headings. You will firstly find a heading called Audio Alerts. The setting you mentioned finding called Talk button up, is unde

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