RE: Alexa stupidity

[Brent Harding]

Mine is also lately. Mine wants to play music on lights that don’t exist, or 
well, I don’t think making a light show to music is as simple as play music on 
lights. If light or lights is in the title of a song, no matter how you phrase 
it, it will be stupid like that at times.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Alexa stupidity

 

Folks often talk about Siri being stupid, well, this morning Alexa showed that 
it could be equally stupid, if not more so.

I use it mostly on our Sonos system.

I make tea and coffee every morning for my wife and I.  I have two timers 
created, Carol’s timer, and Richard’s timer.

This morning when I said “Alexa start Carol’s timer” it responded with “getting 
family Christmas Carol’s from SamSung … I’m having trouble communicating with 
Samsung…”  (Samsung is our TV.

I tried again, and it said, “I’m having trouble, kitchen seems to be off line, 
check the connection and try again.”  Well, it couldn’t tell me that if it was 
offline.

The third an final time it said;, “The history of salt …” at which point I said 
Alexa stop!.

I then set the tea timer on our microwave and made my coffee and set my timer 
on my Apple watch.

 

My speech is not unclear.  I don’t’ know what Alexa was taking, but it sure 
scrambled its brains this morning.

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com/

 

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RE: Accessibility of Authenticator Apps

[Brent Harding]

I have used it as well. I also used Authy. The only small issue I can find is 
that I can’t seem to figure out how to delete keys for companies no longer in 
business. I usually use Microsoft if I can though.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Authenticator Apps

 

I’ve used the Microsoft Authenticator app and had no issues.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

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paekstr...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 3:19 PM
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Subject: Accessibility of Authenticator Apps

 

We are using a website that allows us to enable two-factor authentication by 
using either the Microsoft Authenticator app, the Google Authenticator app, or 
the Authy app.

 

Does anyone have any experience with the above iPhone apps as far as 
accessibility?

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

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RE: charging device - does this exist?

[Brent Harding]

This could be handy, as once I set up my new iPhone I got on the upgrade 
program, it will be using USBC, but my Airpods Pro uses the lightning connector 
on its case. The cable apple gives with stuff barely reaches the outlet in the 
bedroom if I want to listen to YouTube or something for a little while in there 
anyways. I could probably solve two issues with these. I know the old Apple 
lightning cables get frayed over time, and I wouldn’t want to make my pods 
useless, since they won’t charge with the watch charger or on the back of the 
phone, I don’t think.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: charging device - does this exist?

 

 Rather than options with built-in cables that might fail, I highly recommend 
checking out a product from RollingSquare called inchargeX (short cables) and 
InCharge Max (longer cables). These are great because they have built-in 
connections for USB-C, lightning, and micro USB. The other end has both USB and 
USB-C. The design is very nice.  I have various lengths from keychain size all 
the way up to 10 feet. The longer ones come with a handy silicone case.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com  

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.





On Dec 20, 2023, at 9:10 AM, R Van Lant mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks all.  I’ll look into these options.  Might be nice to have one with a 
variety of connection cords for travel.  I had a keychain version of this once 
and it was nice not to have to carry all my cords with me—until the connection 
I used the most broke. 😊   

 

 

  

 

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Tomasi
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: charging device - does this exist?

 

Yes, this does exist and they actually call it a hub. I like Anker brand and 
have several of them. Very reliable. Mine have a plug that go into the AC 
outlet, then plugging into a hub with 5 or moreUSB ports.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

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Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.






On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Here is the description from Amazon of the one I bought a few months ago and 
love it!  It works fine on my Dell Laptop and with any and all USB A plugs I 
have connected for charging or data.  I’ll explain more after the description 
and then I will give the link.

 

Amazon.com: Anker 10 Port 60W Data Hub with 7 USB 3.0 Ports and 3 PowerIQ 
Charging Ports for MacBook, Mac Pro/Mini, iMac, XPS, Surface Pro, iPhone 7, 6s

Plus, iPad Air 2, Galaxy Series, Mobile HDD, and More : Electronics

 

It is less than 2 inches wide, and less than 6 inches long.

It plugs into the wall and has a USB-A cord that is very short for plugging 
into your computer if you want to plug in accessories to connect to your 
computer.

 

The three ports farthest from the cord that goes to the wall are for data 
transfer only, and don’t charge.

But the first 7 from that Wall cord both handle data and charging.

I have my external CD Rom plugged in, my usb headset, usb speakers and my USB 
dongle for my keyboard and more.

They also make one with a USBC plug to the computer and USBC ports, but I have 
mostly the older USB-A devices.

Here is the Amazon link:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VDVCQ84/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8
 

 &psc=1

 

HTH,

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com/

 

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JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: charging device - does this exist?

 

Hi,

I typically charge my iPhones, battery packs,  and such with a single cable 
plugged into a block plugged into the extension cord or directly into the 
outlet.  What I’d ideally  like is a sort of USB extension  cord where I can 
plug one end into a hard to reach outlet, then have a hub of USB ports where I 
can plug in several devices, rather than managing a number of those bulky 
blocks and an extension cord.   Does this kind of thing exist and what would it 
be called 

RE: doing signatures on iPad when signing up something or ensure thing

[Brent Harding]

Even on my phone, the second one was hard, as I needed to do it for a job app. 
The trackpad on the computer method wouldn't go because you can't get focus to 
the box you are supposed to sign. I ended up doing explore by touch, tapping 
the power button three times to turn VO off and then tried to draw my 
signature, which probably came out worse than ever, but it let me submit. I 
really don't know a great accommodation for something like this, especially if 
one ever has to do mouse signing which really doesn't work. I hate to be one of 
the bearers of bad news, but something like DocuSign should work, but the ones 
where you need to physically sign like UPS or FedEx do these days is hard at 
best without help.


-Original Message-
From: '鍾 智明' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing

Got it! Thanks.  
Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950


> Sieghard Weitzel 於2023年12月8日 上午2:08寫道：
> 
> You have to be a lot more specific than this. If you are talking about 
> signing digital documents where something like DocuSign is used then yes, 
> it's usually fine.
> If you think you can simply sign your name on the touch screen on a PDF 
> document or anything like that then no, that is not possible.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 7:13 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing
> 
> hey! all,
> when doing or signing signatures,
> can we do it with voice over when using IPad?
> or can it turn on voice over to do it?
> 
> 
> Ming
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RE: be my ai?

[Brent Harding]

Is there a way to get this or something to describe a YouTube video as it goes? 
I went to a show the other afternoon that was really good, and I'd like to know 
more about what the visual part everyone was cheering and applauding about. It 
never really occurred to me to ask about audio description for what I thought 
was just music with nothing much worth describing, but boy was I real wrong. I 
doubt the places in Wisconsin here do this kind of thing or know much about 
using it if they do have it. I can get various YouTubes of songs from it. I 
know a guy did this GPT commentator thing, but I wonder how you calculate price 
or how he got that to synchronize with what he was doing? A lot of it is 
instrumental, but some of it isn't.


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I have read a lot about "be my ai" on this list, but when I go into the app 
store, I can't find it.
I have tried searching for "be my ai" and "be my AI" but neither search returns 
the app in the list as far as I can tell.

I am finding it more and more important to use scanned images to do stuff so 
this app and all of its positive reviews has me curious.

So where do I get it?

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RE: Can I Copy An Answer from ChatGPT?

[Brent Harding]

Yeah, and with the 3 finger one, wouldn't it end up copying the whole chat, and 
not just the answer last given? I have never really understood the whole 
selecting thing on iOS, and stuff that's not in a proper edit box likely isn't 
selectable in most apps.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can I Copy An Answer from ChatGPT?

Thanks Alan. Either one of those is actually better than the three-finger 
quadruple tap because, with the three-finger quadruple tap, I had to listen to 
the entire text before it told me that it had copied it.

With the two you mentioned, it just says "Copy" without reading all the text 
first.

Evan


On 11/8/2023 8:49 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> Hi Evan,
>
> You can also single finger double tap and hold or single finger triple tap on 
> the ChatGPT answer witch will open a context menu and you can single finger 
> swipe right to copy followed by a single finger double tap to execute the 
> copy of the answer. I find this to be faster than the three finger quadruple 
> tap to copy the last thing spoken by VoiceOver.
>
> Alan Lemly
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 8, 2023, at 7:29 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, that worked. If I had learned that gesture, I forgot it.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>>
>>> On 11/8/2023 6:32 PM, Thom Spittle wrote:
>>> I remember correctly, the answer is given all in one block of text. So if 
>>> you touch on that block of text, and it starts reading, do a three finger 
>>> quadruple tap. Three fingers four times, and that will copy that content to 
>>> the clipboard.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Nov 8, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
 Hey Guys,

 I asked my ChatGPT app a question, and I was wanting to copy it and share 
 it with a few friends, but I can't figure out how to do it, or even 
 whether it can be done.

 I hit Edit, and I got Select All. But then my only two options were to 
 either Activate (default) or Drag. No Copy.

 Am I doing something wrong? Or is that just not possible with ChatGPT 
 answers?

 Thanks much.

 Evan


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RE: today's Apple Event

[Brent Harding]

It will be a bit of a bummer for those of us with the lightning Airpods cases 
once one upgrades to the new phone. I literally don’t have anything else that 
uses lightning around here except that and the phone, and I don’t want to carry 
two cords when I visit family for a weekend or whatever where I might need to 
charge those as well as my phone. I thought I heard the Apple Watch charger was 
supposed to charge those through magsafe, but I can never get it positioned 
right on the Airpods case to make it work.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

 

The same way you now plug in your Lightning headset and in fact you'll have a 
much bigger choice of headsets as USB-C is a standard now.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

 

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Ryan, 

 

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories. 

 

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.

2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com  

386-383-5175

 

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sieghard et al,

 

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

 

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

 

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RE: Accessible Ice Maker

[Brent Harding]

That’s what I found. The first one I had, I think some mechanism that hits a 
little switch in there so it knows the tray is back in position and that it can 
start another cycle probably broke, so the tray would move back up, stop, and 
then it would reset, go back down, up, etc, and never start pumping water from 
the reservoir again unless it got lucky and worked sometimes. The second one 
just ended up getting too dirty, and it’s hard even for a seeing person to 
clean it. I wonder if there is some kind of solution one can just run through 
to clean up the water residue that accumulates in there? I know they are hard 
to drain out, and you can’t always get all of the water out through that little 
hole the drain plug fits in.

 

 

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chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible Ice Maker

 

Hi. I’ve used 2 different ice makers. The first one was, I believe a Danby and 
the other was kitchen aid. Both of them had physical buttons. From experience 
they don’t last all that long and are apparently a real bugger to clean.

 

Chris Judge

  

 

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blindfait...@gmail.com  
Sent: September 19, 2022 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: OT: Accessible Ice Maker

 

Hello,

 

My wife and I are looking to buy a counter top ice maker and we are wondering 
if anyone makes a machine that is accessible to someone who can’t see. I have 
been researching this on Amazon and the Internet, but I can’t seem to locate 
one that has real buttons instead of a flat panel which we cannot feel the 
difference between the various settings. Is there anyone on the list that has 
been able find such an accessible ice maker?

 

Thank You,

 

 

 

 

Scott Rumery

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Has anyone activated a new iPhone to use eSIM instead of a physical SIM?

[Brent Harding]

Yes, that EID number, I think, is around 32 digits long or something like that. 
As a small tip, this is one of those occasions where I’d use the 3-finger tap 4 
times after flicking right on that about page to the EID to copy exactly what 
VO said to the clipboard. One can then either paste it in the box they need it 
in and then go back and delete the extra garbage that gets in, or paste it into 
notes or another edit area first. That command literally copies exactly what VO 
spoke, so that’s why I said there could be extra junk added with it that would 
need to get edited out, or the form will probably say the number isn’t valid.

 

From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Has anyone activated a new iPhone to use eSIM instead 
of a physical SIM?

 

hi ALAN,

Yes, I did this successfully. I did have cited help at the time, but there 
really wasn’t much about the process that made me concerned that I could not 
have done it. Originally, I had been told I needed to take a photograph of a QR 
code, but that did not prove necessary in this process that I was guided 
through. 

 

I did this by contacting Verizon phone support. I went to the My Verizon app, 
and in the lower right hand corner there was either a moor or a contact button. 
When I ultimately found the contact button, I access them through the schedule 
a return call. I did this on four occasions for variety of purposes, and each 
time I was called back within three minutes. The representatives were very 
helpful.

 

my only concern about doing this independently, was at one point I needed to 
enter a very long series of digits from the about page of Settings, and in my 
experience that can be somewhat tenuous relying on voiceover. At least for me.

 

The phone has been working great ever cents.

 

I hope this helps. Good luck. Keith

 

On Oct 18, 2021, at 2:12 AM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi List,

 

I realize the answer to my question might vary considerably depending on 
country of location and mobile service carrier. I’ve ordered a new iPhone 13 
Mini and since I have a Verizon Prepaid account, I was unable to specify 
Verizon as my carrier when ordering using the Apple Store app. The order would 
fail each time the app attempted to confirm my Verizon account so I had to 
select the option to purchase the phone for use on any carrier. Phones ordered 
in this way come with no SIM card. I understand from the email Apple sent me 
indicating my iPhone had shipped that I can use eSIM when activating it. I’m 
curious whether anyone on this list has gone the eSIM route when activating a 
new iPhone containing no physical SIM. If you have, I’d love to hear what the 
steps were to do and how your experience was.

 

I’ve been advised not to transfer my existing SIM from my SE 2020 to the 13 
Mini so I do have a new physical SIM which I got Verizon to mail me. I’ll use 
that if the eSIM activation doesn’t work.

 

Thanks in advance for any comments eSIM users can share.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Apple's new credit card

[Brent Harding]

When you go to the Wallet app on your iPhone, you go to Apple Card if you have 
applied, then More, and under there is the option to get the traditional info 
one needs for other sites and places that don't take Apple Pay.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 7:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple's new credit card


  There is a way to use the Apple card on websites they don’t take Apple Pay. 
They have little videos the talk all about the various aspects of it. And 
they’re actually described. And no, the card is not from Chase. It is from 
Goldman Saks. If you get the physical card, there is a way to use it in stores. 
There is also a way to find the “number“ for your card, even though it’s not an 
actual repeatable number that somebody could steal. If you go and find all 
those cute little videos with Apple Support, you will see all about it. I 
suspect there are probably also articles.




  Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 22, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:


Hi,

Can you use Apples new credit card on Amazon? I read on an article that the 
Titanium card you get from Apple will not have any numbers on it. It also said 
in the article the Apple card is a master card from J P Morgan. So I am 
wondering how you can use this card at Amazon and other websites if it does not 
have a number on it. I know you can put it in your iPhone and use Apple pay but 
only at businesses that have the correct scanner. Most places in the US do not 
have the ability to let you use Apple pay. So can anyone share info on this or 
correct me on how the Apple credit card works.

Mr. Ed


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Re: This is how you set up your Apple Card for iPhone, cNet

[Brent Harding]

I agree! I am glad that for the first time, we have a card that requires no 
sighted help to get going with, even with the physical one, because the info 
we need is right there in the app. The 2 percent cash back for Apple Pay is 
nice, making it easily the best for things like Uber, Lyft, and things like 
Grubhub and Doordash where I can use it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Worrell" 

To: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" 
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: This is how you set up your Apple Card for iPhone, cNet


This is beautifully accessible with VoiceOver. I was approved for an early 
look at the card and it’s fantastic! The accessibility is the biggest 
feature for me. Not all bank websites/apps are accessible. Apple really 
makes the experience of using and paying your card enjoyable.


Ed W.



On Aug 16, 2019, at 7:50 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

This is how you set up your Apple Card for iPhone
Plan on signing up for an Apple Card? Read this.
By Jason CiprianiAugust 10, 2019 6:00 AM PDT

The look of your Apple Card is always changing.
Jason Cipriani/CNET
Earlier this week, Apple began sending out invites for its newest product,
the Apple Card. The preview period will only last a few more weeks, as 
Apple

plans to launch its new credit card later in August.

Apple's approach to mobile payments can be confusing, considering it now
offers Apple Pay, Apple Cash and Apple Card, which are different services
that work in similar, yet different ways. (CNET's Jessica Dolcourt does a
fantastic job of breaking down the differences.)
With the Apple Card, Apple took a new approach to how users interact with
and manage a credit card. From a simple sign-up process to viewing your
spending habits, earning Daily Cash and paying your bill -- everything 
Apple

Card-related is done on your iPhone.
Video: Apple Card FAQ: What you need to know

I was able to get an invite for the preview, and after reading through the
fine print, I decided to sign up.

How to sign up
For the next few weeks, Apple is slowly rolling the Apple Card via a 
preview

program. If you signed up to be notified of its launch, then you have a
chance of getting randomly selected to participate. The Apple Card will
fully roll out in the US by the end of August, meaning preview invites 
will

no longer be required. Make sure your iPhone ($1,000 at Amazon) is running
iOS 12.4 before you try to sign up.

Signing up for an Apple Card takes under a minute.

The sign-up process is the same, whether you receive an invite or wait for
the full launch:
1.
Open the Wallet app on your iPhone.
2.
Tap the + button in the top right corner.
3.
If you see a screen explaining what Apple Pay is, tap Continue.
4.
Select Apple Card from the list of available payment methods.
5.
Apple fills out most of the sign-up form for you using your Apple ID
information. You'll need to confirm the information, add the last four
digits of your social security number, enter your annual income and accept
the Apple Card terms and conditions.
6.
Once you're done, you'll receive an offer with what your credit limit and
interest rate will be. Tap Accept Apple Card to open your Apple Card
account. Select No Thanks if you change your mind.

Once you accept the offer, you'll be asked if you want to set Apple Card 
as
your default card. If you select Use as Default Card your Apple Card will 
be

triggered for all contactless payments, and your Apple payment source for
the Apple Store (apps, movies, subscriptions) will be changed to use the
Apple Card.
Lastly, during the sign-up process, you're asked if you want to receive a
physical Apple Card in the mail for use in places that don't have
contactless payment systems. If you don't want a physical card right now,
you can always request one later on.

There are multiple ways to pay with your Apple Card.
Using your Apple Card
Immediately after opening your Apple Card account, you'll have a digital
version of the card available in Apple Pay. You can begin using it to make
purchases right away -- I bought some coffee at Starbucks just a few 
minutes

after setting my account up.

The process for using your Apple Card through Apple Pay is the same as 
it's

always been: Place your phone near a payment terminal and use Touch ID or
Face ID to approve the transaction.

Apple will also add your Apple Card to Safari's auto-fill feature, which
you've likely seen a prompt for when ordering something in Safari on your
phone or Mac. If you're not being prompted to use your Apple Card, or any
card for that matter, when making purchases in Safari, go into your 
iPhone's

Settings app and select Safari > AutoFill and turn on Credit Cards.

If you want to use your Apple Card on a website that doesn't accept Apple
Pay, and you're not a Safari user, your Apple Card has a semipermanent
virtual card number (more on what that means below). You can find your
card's number on your iPhone by opening the Wallet app and selecting your
Apple Card and t

Re: Instant Pot app

[Brent Harding]

Would a person be able to use the Google Assistant integrations with the iOS 
Google Assistant app? I wish there was a device similar to an echo dot that 
had a line out jack on it. That's why I never tried Google Assistant yet.


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 9:06 AM
Subject: RE: Instant Pot app


What about other settings like time, pressure level, and other settings that 
were very accessible in the BlueTooth version but not in the WiFi version of 
the app? With the BT version of the app, all of these settings are 
accessible via the dashboard and there is no need to use any of the hardware 
buttons to setup your cook session.




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Aleeha Dudley

Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 3:00 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Re: Instant Pot app

I have done most of my selection using the hardware buttons on the device. 
However, the cooking mode buttons are labeled in the app.

Aleeha


On May 13, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:

Are the buttons labeled, and can you select the pressure level, sautee
low or high, warming time, and cooking time using the app and
VoiceOver? Thanks so much for any information you can share. I
currently use, and enjoy using, the Bluetooth model, and I am hopeful
that the WiFi model will become as accessible as the Bluetooth one
using the app.
Thanks.
Penny

On 5/13/19, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:

Is it possible to give some instructions on how to connect the
Instant Pot Wifi. I will be purchasing one in the next two weeks. Thanks!

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes


On May 13, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Aleeha Dudley

wrote:

Hi,
I just bought an Instant Pot WifI and find that I can use the app
fairly easily. I don’t know what it was like before, but I’m hearing
from friends that it is much better than it used to be.
Aleeha


On May 12, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:

Good Afternoon,

Has there been any improvement to the wifi Instant pot app as far
as accessibility?

Vicki


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Re: Apple Card announcement today and thoughts of the group

[Brent Harding]

I do like that. I think the only real threat one would have would be to 
physically lose the card, but they could use it in-store only and not by phone 
or online. I think they are the only one to not have the number on it, as on 
any other card, how would you use it if you didn't have the number?

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:37 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple Card announcement today and thoughts of the group


  I think it is a great idea, should cut down a lot on credit card fraud, and I 
plan to get one. I might ditch others. If you’ve ever gone through the hassle 
of having to call in about fraudulent purchases that show up on your credit 
card statement, which has happened to me more than once, well… I can’t wait. 
There’s no number on this thing, no expiration and no special three digit code 
to memorize. Very nice.




  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 25, 2019, at 2:21 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


I read the Apple news brief about their announced Apple Card today and am 
curious what others on the list think about it. I'll say up front that my 
interest in credit cards and similar financial vehicles is first their 
widespread acceptance at the places I hsop and second the amount of rewards I'm 
able to earn when using them. To recap the rewards paid by the new Apple Card:



1.   Items purchased directly from 
Apple using the card earn 3% rewards.

2.   Items purchased from other 
places using the card with ApplePay earn 2% rewards.

3.   Items purchased using the 
physical Apple Card without ApplePay earn 1% rewards.



I'm pretty sure I've stated the above correctly but please chime in if your 
understanding is different.



I know we have members from all over the world but my experience in the USA 
with ApplePay hasn't been what I'd call wide acceptance. In fact, Since 
ApplePay has existed, I've only been able to use it a handful of times at 
either a McDonald's or Walgreens. So while I agree that 2% rewards for use of 
the Apple Card is pretty generous, I'm not convinced it will be realizable at 
the places I shop unless ApplePay becomes accepted in a lot more places than it 
currently is.



I'm curious what others on the list think about the Apple Card. I 
understand about companies needing to expand their product offerings in order 
to generate more revenue but I can't say Apple's efforts to expand into News, 
media entertainment production, and financial services generates a feeling of 
confidence for me.



Alan Lemly


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Re: Apple offering custom 'Grammy Awards experience' and 4 months free of Apple Music via Shazam

[Brent Harding]

I found their app to be kind of hard to use on iOS. I got one of those 3-month 
trials from a Groupon offer, but it ran out not too long ago. Apple Music and 
Spotify are probably my choices I like best for accessibility right now.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cristóbal Muñoz 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 7:42 PM
  Subject: RE: Apple offering custom 'Grammy Awards experience' and 4 months 
free of Apple Music via Shazam


  And… It worked. Easy peasy… Free Apple Music until June 10th baby. After 
that, it’ll then be time to try to score a free Spotify trial. 

  As a side note, I don’t know if it was part of the premium experience, but I 
noticed that after I upgraded to Pandora Premium, with the trial, I found the 
iOS app on the iPhone to be a lot less intuitive. Maybe it was just a  simple 
redesign after an update around the same time, but I guess I’ll find out if 
that’s the case after I go back to the free version with commercials. In short 
though, The Pandora app became more of a hassle after the upgrade.


   

  Cristóbal

   

  From: Cristóbal Muñoz  
  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 1:32 PM
  To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
  Subject: Apple offering custom ’Grammy Awards experience’ and 4 months free 
of Apple Music via Shazam

   

  For those who may be interested in giving Apple Music a try. I believe the 
four month free trial subscription is for new customers only though. 

  I scored a three month Pandora premium radio trial for free back in November 
that’s expiring in a few days. This will allow me to switch over to Apple Music 
and give that service a run for a while at no cost.

  Anyway, seems pretty straight forward. Launch Shazam. Identify a song that’s 
being played during the show and follow the steps to redeem the Apple Music 
trial sub.

  https://9to5mac.com/2019/02/10/apple-music-shazam-grammys/

   

  Cristóbal

   


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Re: To AppleCare or not....that is the question

[Brent Harding]

I had a problem back with the iPhone 7, where the charging just quit working 
randomly one day. Apple did replace it for free while I still had Apple 
Care, I think you get your first year free, and what you're paying for is 
the second year, but when the second one exhibited the same exact issue, I 
ended up having to pay around $300 for a replacement, because the first year 
coverage had lapsed by then.  Now, I am on the Apple upgrade plan, where a 
256 GB XR is about $43 a month with Apple Care included. Since these are 
effectively 0 interest loans with the option to upgrade after the first 
year, it seems mathematically the same as if you paid it up all at once with 
the Apple Care included. I am glad that the XR seems to have a lot sturdier 
connection when you plug in the lightning cord, it seems to take more force 
to pull it out of there than the 7's did, but hopefully whatever was made 
defectively in a few batches back then won't be a problem again. I would've 
thought for sure they would fix the port and send back the one I had, but 
something leads me to believe that the problem was with something else, as 
they didn't look damaged or anything that one could easily see. The other 
benefit I heard you can get with Apple Care is that they will overnight you 
a different phone to use first if you give them a credit card, and then once 
they fix your broken one, you either send in the replacement after they send 
that back, or if is something they can't fix easily, you keep the 
replacement and they do whatever they do with the old one and it's no 
charge. I thought about adding the loss and theft coverage for piece of 
mind, but there are probably better third-party ways to get insurance for 
that type of thing that cost less.



- Original Message - 
From: "Agent086b" 

To: "viphone" 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: To AppleCare or notthat is the question


Hi,
I may have misunderstood your message. The 3 iPhones I have had replaced I 
did not have to pay anything for the replacements under AppleCare.

Max.


On 11 Feb 2019, at 3:02 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Just so you know, Apple Care Plus does not cover loss or theft.
It covers accidental damage I think twice, once for each of the two years, 
but if your phone needs to be replaced that is also not free. I have no 
idea how much it costs nowadays with the expensive phones like the XR or 
XS.
Gone are the days when Apple Care Plus was $79 or $99. The last time I had 
Apple Care Plus was on my 6S Plus back in 2015. I lost that phone about 3 
months after I got it when I was visiting my families ranch at Christmas 
that year. I went for a walk up their driveway which is gravel and about 
three quarters of a mile long. At the time it was of course covered in 
snow since we are talking about northern British Columbia and the 
temperature was minus 30 Celsius (about minus 22 Fahrenheit. When I got 
back home I realized the phone wasn't in the chest pocket of my down 
parka. Trying to call it or use Find my iPhone was useless because in 
these temperatures and without being close to body heat the phone would 
have shut down in less than 5 minutes. Various members of my family spent 
about 10 hours searching without luck. Fortunately I had my phone added to 
my homeowner's insurance as an extra item with a 0 deductible. That only 
costs about $30 a year extra and unlike Apple Care Plus it does cover loss 
or theft. The insurance paid the full price for a new phone. About 4 
months later after the snow was gone in mid April my brother found the 
phone. I asked him to stick it in a bag of rice and mail it to me, that 
took a few days and when it arrived I took it out and plugged it in. At 
first nothing happened, but to my surprise when I checked it an hour or so 
later Voiceover came right up, I could unlock it with my PIN and as soon 
as I did it started dinging and making all sorts of noises as it connected 
to my WiFi and 4 months worth of emails, messages and notifications went 
off. In the end I realized that the phone worked perfectly fine with two 
exceptions: the screen was black in other words it somehow didn't work any 
more even though I could do anything using Voiceover. And yes, I did of 
course check if the screen curtain was on and it was not. The second issue 
was that the camera did not work any more. Now that I had the physical 
phone back I took it to an Apple Store and after paying $129.99 Canadian 
they replaced it with a new phone.
Quite a few people on this list who have been here for a few years heard 
the story before, but I recounted it just to make the point that just the 
cost of Apple Care Plus does not cover a phone replacement. Given how 
expensive Apple Care Plus has become I am no longer buying it. Water 
damage is almost impossible nowadays with an iPhone 8 or anything above it 
because the phones are virtually waterproof and the X series phones even 
more so than the 8 and the 8 is

Re: Transcription Beta Question Please.

[Brent Harding]

Yeah, voicemail transcription could probably be a lot better than it's 
presented in iOS. All those underscores are annoying. I think they represent 
the pauses in speech or parts it didn't pick up, but let's hope this gets 
better over time.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: ; "Sieghard Weitzel" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Transcription Beta Question Please.


Instead of flicking, you can just slide your finger down the screen past
the transcript message or just learn approximately on the screen where
it's located and then just touch the screen below that point.


On 12/19/18 9:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Maybe you should move up here then, there are neither bees nor flowers, 
not for the last 2 and a half month and not for another 4 and a half to 
come!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

I just flick past the thing. It's not going away, like the bees around the 
flowers outside our apartment.


Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of janet gross

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Carolyn,
Ok, so you have it on your phone too.  Can you please tell me how you work 
around the thing, as it drives me crazy.  I haven't found any way to work 
around this thing though!


Janet


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

I think it is from iOS. I just work around the thing.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:08 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me how to get rid of this annoying transcription 
beta feature that shows up every time I attempt to listen to a voice mail 
message? This is the most annoying thing, and to boot, it doesn't even 
read half the message!  I have no idea how this even got on my phone 
either.  Although, from my understanding this is from iOS, but not for 
sure.

Thank you for any suggestions.
Janet




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Re: The Olympics

[Brent Harding]

I am getting description on my Sharp Roku TV using Spectrum's channel for it, 
but I would be able to also get it on the iOS app also. I just wish Spectrum 
would use Apple TV instead of Roku for their accessibility solution, as Roku 
and audio guide has its querks at times.

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 9:17 PM
  Subject: Re: The Olympics


  I have a friend in southwest FL who has Xfinity, and she said that she is 
getting the AD through her TV but not her phone.

  Andy

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Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 5:28 PM
Subject: The Olympics


For those who might be interested, the Olympics are being audio described 
on NBC. We have XFinity cable and it comes through both on the TV, and through 
their Stream app.
Richard






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Re: homepod

[Brent Harding]

From what I hear online, right when it comes out, it appears like it will be 
quite limited. It seems like all it will do is Apple Music, and probably 
airplay or bluetooth, but not sure it would do live radio streaming like 
Tunein or anything like that.


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From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: homepod


I'm only aware of the one price, $349, in the US. The Home Pod does
support AirPlay, so you can send any audio from your iPhone over to your
Home Pod.


On 01/29/2018 04:21 PM, Billy Maynard wrote:

hi,

I like the idea of the homepod but, in one of the articals Ithoguht it 
mentioned differing prices. I forget which one i read onthe list that had 
it. But,I looked on the apple website and I thoughth e only price I saw 
was 350ish. Also I wonder (and it's probly possable but, I've had little 
experience) other than a bluetooth speaker but, the homepod didn't mention 
streaming content from your other divice such as audiobooks such as from 
bard, audable etc. Anyone got any notions about any of htis? Also I 
thoguht I might wait till the second gen of this product wondering what 
else they might introduce in it.


Sincerely,
B.J. Maynard


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Re: Tune In and sonos

[Brent Harding]

Could you use Tunein Premium with a Chromecast audio so one isn't draining the 
iPhone battery to do the Airplay thing? 
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 6:03 AM
  Subject: Re: Tune In and sonos


  TuneIn does support ChromeCast, but I'm not sure if this helps in this 
situation, since I don't have a Sonos.




  On 11/19/2017 08:19 PM, Brent Harding wrote:

As far as I knew, Tunein Premium doesn't seem to have any other device 
support than the phones, computer, and tablets, which means one is stuck 
wasting battery to do it over airplay from the phone. I hope that changes some 
day.

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  Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 7:54 PM
  Subject: Tune In and sonos


  Is there any way to get Tune in premium to play on my Sonos system? I 
have radio by Tune in on the browse menu but it does not appear to be the 
premium version. I would love to listen to the NFL games like I do the MLB 
games.
  Marie


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Re: Tune In and sonos

[Brent Harding]

As far as I knew, Tunein Premium doesn't seem to have any other device support 
than the phones, computer, and tablets, which means one is stuck wasting 
battery to do it over airplay from the phone. I hope that changes some day.

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  Subject: Tune In and sonos


  Is there any way to get Tune in premium to play on my Sonos system? I have 
radio by Tune in on the browse menu but it does not appear to be the premium 
version. I would love to listen to the NFL games like I do the MLB games.
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Re: accessibility of Libratone Zip speaker

[Brent Harding]

From what I read on Libratone's site, their is an app, but not sure how much 
it is required to use it. It sounds like you can choose the speaker in a 
section of wifi settings that would come up saying set up new airplay 
speaker, or by switching the laptop wifi to its temporary one and going that 
way. I heard it will also be getting the capability to hook into Amazon and 
all the streaming skills on their next year, but if you want stuff like the 
nfl/nba/etc from Tunein Premium, Airplay is probably the only way about it 
these days. I really don't need the ability to have a battery in it, but 
that might be handy if I wanted to move it around. From the reviews I found 
online, it sounded like this was the best for the money. I think Amazon has 
it for $299, or has at times. What I found is also kind of nifty is that 
using the iphone charging cable, it will supposedly play audio from the 
phone when hooked up, without that silly dongle that's easy to lose and it 
would charge at the same time. I never thought ios had the ability to do usb 
audio like computers/droid/etc can, but I am probably wrong on that.
The previous Klipsch iGroove 30-pin dock I have that little Airplay dongle 
on isn't made any more, as only the auxiliary jack would be of much use now 
unless you have the other discontinued stuff to go with, but from last I 
heard, their Airplay stuff was well over $400, which is a considerable hike 
since I remember this old thing I got retailed new for about $150, and I 
ended up getting a woot special back then. I might just end up ordering the 
zip on Amazon, since the Apple Store app doesn't seem to show it any more 
either, to see how I like it, as returning it if the app isn't so accessible 
wouldn't be a problem, and with prime, the shipping is free.


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Bullis" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of Libratone Zip speaker



Hmm, maybe there is something I've not understood about Airplay, but I
only got Airplay to work with my Apple TV 3rd generation, which wasn't
really ideal. I have a JBL OnBeat Rumble speaker, which says it's
Airplay enabled. I do see that the iPhone indicates Airplay as the JBL
speaker, but I've never been able to stream to the speaker itself. I
either have to dock the iPhone or connect via Bluetooth. You say that
if you turn off Bluetooth you will get Airplay. Is it necessary to
turn off Bluetooth to then get this function? I would like Voiceover
to stay on the iPhone while streaming to the JBL speaker. Doesn't this
depend on the Wifi network? I recall there is an app for this speaker,
but it wasn't all that accessible. Would I need to use the app to
configure this?
Thanks,
Matthew

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accessibility of Libratone Zip speaker

[Brent Harding]

I am thinking about replacing my speaker dock I have because I think it is 
starting to go bad in that it is starting to get that crackly sound with voices 
and the bass part of songs, not only that, using this little airplay to 30 pin 
adapter to give it airplay has its own issues with the airplay not staying up 
and available all the time, so I have to unplug that and replug to get it to be 
seen again. I was researching different speakers to get, and found, for the 
money it is, that the Libratone Zip might be a good choice. Has anyone tried 
this speaker, and how is their app you use to set it up with voiceover? If the 
app isn't much in the way of accessibility, can you set it up from a web 
interface on the computer? I've hard a lot of good reviews about it, and heard 
it is even sold on the Apple Store online, but I'm not sure that indicates 
voiceover accessibility.

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Re: Crafting materials in Crafting Kingdom

[Brent Harding]

I think I'm still on the lower quests to an extent, but two or three of them 
sure don't seem like it at times. Right now I have 5 grain, 25000 
timber, and a lot of iron ore on the list of things to achieve, as well as 
some of the way out there ones like getting 500 automations purchased. At 
this point, adding slots and an automation to them can be 300,000 gold 
apiece once you have over 12 to 13 slots going. I think the right strategy 
with the timber is getting the right mix of the four boosts going and then 
getting the right balance to logs and timber running that I don't have the 
storage fill too fast with logs to have everything grind to a hault. I 
really like this game though.


- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Merritt" 

To: "viphone" 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 11:13 PM
Subject: Crafting materials in Crafting Kingdom



Greetings. I have been playing Crafting Kingdom for about 5 months now
and have completed many of the lower quests. My next expansion
requires 2,000 belts and 1,500 diamond rings. Can someone tell me what
materials make up these products? Also, what makes up the silver
necklace and diamonds in the Jeweler? I love this game and completing
all of the quests. The expansions are good too but I seem to focus
more energy on the quests. I've even got my sighted wife into this
game, though she has a long ways to go before she catches up to me.

Best,
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Re: some uber and lift questions

[Brent Harding]

I've never seen much in the way of discounts with Uber, but with Lyft, every 
now and again, they'll drop in a 10-rides half off deal that you get a 
couple weeks or so to use.


- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Merritt" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: some uber and lift questions



In Lyft, after your trip has been accepted, swipe through the screen
and look for the contact button. Once you choose this, you can pick
how you want to contact the driver. In my experience, I always contact
the driver of whatever service ahead of time. A lot of times I will
get an automated response that the driver is unable to respond because
they are driving, but I also then get a personal response from them
later acknowledging my message. I prefer Lyft for the ease of use, but
Uber is easier to schedule a ride ahead of time. Also, in Austin TX.,
it seems like Lyft does not go through surge pricing as often as Uber.
Finally, I frequently get discounts on both services, but Lyft often
gives me a $5 discount. Going home, that takes my trip cost from about
$7 to $2, or less. Awesome!

Wayne

On 9/6/17, Kay Malmquist  wrote:

Hi Mike,
I am in St. Louis as well.  Not that this makes a difference.  Can you 
tell


me where you go to contact the driver with the Lyft app?  I have not 
found

this yet.  Thanks much.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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From: "Mike Arrigo" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: some uber and lift questions


Here in St. Louis, we have both services, and both work equally well.
Many drivers work for both companies, this is not considered a conflict
of interest since the drivers are really contractors for each company.
Both apps are accessible. Both apps allow you to call or text the
driver if necessary. One thing I would suggest, enter the place where
you want to be picked up, don't rely on the location provided by the
phone's GPS, it's usually not accurate enough. Both apps will give you
a price estimation before booking the trip. One thing is for sure, both
services are much better than the cab companies around here. With a
cab, you call them and it's pretty much, we'll be there when we get
there, might be 5 minutes or it could be an hour. With Uber and Lyft,
you know how far the closest driver is and neither one has ever taken
longer than 10 minutes, usually shorter.
Original message:

Hey guys,



OK, i wanted some input here on a few things with uber and lift?  What
1 do you guys like better?  It seems like almost 6 of 1, half dozen of
the other if you know what i mean.  Both apps seem to be accessible.
Also, when you are in a place, how do you usually explain to  the
driver how to find you since you can't see them coming, like if i'm at
the gym or something and need them to pick me u, how would i know it's
their car outside.  Also if anyone has used both, does 1 usually have
a better price than the other?



Cheers,
Jed.



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Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad

[Brent Harding]

In the latest upgrades, it seems like the screen is refreshing on its own 
every so many seconds. It's kind of doable if you flick fast enough before 
the blip sound refreshes the screen, but it's not an ideal situation.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kathy Brandt" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 12:31 PM
Subject: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad


Is this happening to anyone else? Today I was getting a blipping sound and 
the menu items were shifting. I couldn't find the contact driver button for 
the longest time. Are used to be able to change my destination for doing a 
second stop, but now I can't. This is really disappointing when before the 
app had been stable and easy to use. I went to their website, found where it 
says accessibility under the help menu, and left them feedback, would you 
can do after double tapping more in that menu. I suggest others do the same.


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Re: Bypassing Touch ID & Pass Code

[Brent Harding]

Did 10.3 ever fix the issues with the Focus 40 Blue? I've been holding out on 
Updating ever since that broke.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2017 3:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Bypassing Touch ID & Pass Code




  If you did not have them on your phone, there should be a skip this step, or 
not now, button or something close to that.
  If you had either on your phone, you will be asked for them in order to 
update.
  HTH,
  Richard



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Hi All,

Running an SE with 9.33.  Does anyone know of a way to bypass / skip the 
touch ID & pass code screens when updating to iOS 10.3?  All help will be 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Brent Harding]

I figured as much on a day like today, it was a joke because nobody would 
want to hold the width of a 20-cell display up to their ears, which I 
invision to be about half the width of my Focus 40 Blue I use mostly for 
work.


- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with 
integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display





You did understand that it was an April Fools joke right?
The price Sieghard mentioned for that imaginary special iPhone was $1000.


Richard



On Apr 1, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Dani Pagador  wrote:

I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
that I don't have would it cost me???


On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel  wrote:
The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
getting if you can get the funding for it.



On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

It was almost believable, other than the price.
Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.

Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
only hope, grin.
Richard


On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese mailto:ment...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:


Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
Feeling a bit sad,
Evan

*From:* Merv Keck 
*Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display


Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.





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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
*Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



April fools!





   - Original Message -

   *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 

   *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

   *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM

   *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
   integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



   Hi,



   In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
   morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
   apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
   Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
   braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
   braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
   there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
   touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
   rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
   to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
   skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
   Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
   on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be
   a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
   going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
   as "Unlabelled 0":


http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1



   Regards,

   Sieghard



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Re: Phone Number to the Accessibility Group

[Brent Harding]

Wow! I thought according to online, it sounded like maybe you could watch 
stuff with it. Maybe this thing isn't worth getting.


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: Phone Number to the Accessibility Group


The laptop only gives you the guide so you can  see what programs are on. 
That is all.  And with the mouse disabled, it won't work at all.

Patti


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Of Brent Harding

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone Number to the Accessibility Group

How does this laptop solution work? I'd rather just have a remote and a box, 
use a phone app, or even an Apple TV app, and I'd probably then buy one of 
those. I'm still in a TWC area, yet they're running Spectrum Business 
Internet ads for cheaper than I am paying on a promo for ultimate 50, and 
that has 60. I have to imagine they jumped the gun on the inserted ads, as 
they wouldn't likely be having their own business class internet undercut 
what's available for residential, as commercial everything is usually more 
expensive, but I think you get faster resolution if you get an outage.


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Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:46 AM
Subject: RE: Phone Number to the Accessibility Group


Oh trust me, they know.  The rep that set up my appointment called after to
see how it went and I told him everything.  The gentlemen who came to set up
the laptop have my name and have sent in a full report on this experience to
TW.  They said they would call me as soon as they find out when better
accessibility will be available.  I told them that I wanted the box. Which
is what I asked for in the beginning but was told that was not what I was
going to get.  I am glad I went through with the appointment anyhow just to
show them what would not work.

So we'll see what happens.  Thing is I don't think our Time Warner company
have totally merged with everybody else.
They are still calling themselves Time
Warner.  When we went from Insight to TW, they still made us use the old
equipment from Insight, rather than bring in new.  The wheels of whatever,
grind slow around here, trust me.
Patti


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Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone Number to the Accessibility Group

Okay, here is the numer to the recently created accessibility group at
Spectrum. It is: (844(762-1301. I'd encourage a call to register your
interest in the accessible box. You do not have to accept a laptop. Mike
Arrigo, who posts to this list has the box and speaks very highly about its
functionality. I certainly trust his comments on his experiences with the
box. The key question is when the boxes will be available system wide. The
reps may not know that. But they are the ones responsible for taking our
calls and registering us in their database as interested and in need of
these boxes. Good luck.

Les

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Re: Phone Number to the Accessibility Group

[Brent Harding]

How does this laptop solution work? I'd rather just have a remote and a box, 
use a phone app, or even an Apple TV app, and I'd probably then buy one of 
those. I'm still in a TWC area, yet they're running Spectrum Business 
Internet ads for cheaper than I am paying on a promo for ultimate 50, and 
that has 60. I have to imagine they jumped the gun on the inserted ads, as 
they wouldn't likely be having their own business class internet undercut 
what's available for residential, as commercial everything is usually more 
expensive, but I think you get faster resolution if you get an outage.


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:46 AM
Subject: RE: Phone Number to the Accessibility Group


Oh trust me, they know.  The rep that set up my appointment called after to 
see how it went and I told him everything.  The gentlemen who came to set up 
the laptop have my name and have sent in a full report on this experience to 
TW.  They said they would call me as soon as they find out when better 
accessibility will be available.  I told them that I wanted the box. Which 
is what I asked for in the beginning but was told that was not what I was 
going to get.  I am glad I went through with the appointment anyhow just to 
show them what would not work.


So we'll see what happens.  Thing is I don't think our Time Warner company 
have totally merged with everybody else.

They are still calling themselves Time
Warner.  When we went from Insight to TW, they still made us use the old 
equipment from Insight, rather than bring in new.  The wheels of whatever, 
grind slow around here, trust me.

Patti


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Les Kriegler

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone Number to the Accessibility Group

Okay, here is the numer to the recently created accessibility group at 
Spectrum. It is: (844(762-1301. I'd encourage a call to register your 
interest in the accessible box. You do not have to accept a laptop. Mike 
Arrigo, who posts to this list has the box and speaks very highly about its 
functionality. I certainly trust his comments on his experiences with the 
box. The key question is when the boxes will be available system wide. The 
reps may not know that. But they are the ones responsible for taking our 
calls and registering us in their database as interested and in need of 
these boxes. Good luck.


Les

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Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Brent Harding]

I'll have to make sure it's not on there when I lock it, although mine seems 
to persist in speaking it even if I get the phone back to the home screen, 
not sure if it's specific to the NFL on Tunein Premium, but it's where I 
most often encounter it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Merritt" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs 
for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users



I've had this happen several times in 10.1.1, and I have fixed it by
going to the phone and then swiping away from the time elapsed
adjustable item to something else on the screen. This seems to stop
it. It is very annoying to constantly hear the time elapsed/1
notification announcement repeated.

Wayne

On 12/12/16, Brent Harding  wrote:

One annoying bug I hope does get fixed is that when streaming from Tunein,
if a notification comes in, it incessantly speaks over and over, even if 
you

try to unlock the phone and get it off the screen. Shutting vo off and
putting it back on does work, but it takes several seconds after tripple
clicking home to make the madness stop.

  - Original Message -
  From: Mary Otten
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 1:12 PM
  Subject: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs
for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users


  Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for
VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

  AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products ... 
/

AppleVis


  Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.

  For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that Apple
has made continued progress towards addressing the accessibility bugs
present in iOS 10. However, despite this progress, our testing also 
suggests
that a number of accessibility bugs have been introduced in this 
release—one

of which we believe to be potentially critical for those who use the Focus
line of braille displays. Thus, if you have not already updated your 
device
to iOS 10.2, we strongly recommend that you read this post and any 
comments

below before doing so.

  As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test all
devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the first 
version
of iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not common to all users 
and

use cases, it is very likely that there are changes, regressions or
improvements that we are not aware of at the time of posting. With this in
mind, we would greatly appreciate your help in ensuring that the 
information

on this page is as complete and accurate as possible. If you spot any
accessibility-related changes in iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the
comments.

  Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2
a.. Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays may
experience issues pairing their display with devices running iOS 10.2. The
information we have available to us suggests that this issue primarily
affects users who attempt to re-pair a Focus display which has previously
been un-paired from the same iOS device, although in our testing it was 
also
impossible to pair a Focus display for the first time when running iOS 
10.2.

It is our understanding that Focus displays paired before updating to iOS
10.2 should continue to work correctly. This issue was apparently 
discovered

very late in the beta cycle, and Apple has assured us that a fix is in the
works and will be released in the near future. In the meantime, we 
recommend

that you do not upgrade to iOS 10.2 if you use a Focus braille display and
have a use case which may require you to un-pair and re-pair the display, 
or

if you may need to pair a Focus display for the first time before Apple
releases a fix. At the time of posting, we believe that the Focus line of
displays are the only displays affected by this issue; in addition to the
Focus 14 Blue and Focus 40 Blue, the models we were able to test under iOS
10.2 include the Braille Edge, Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, VarioUltra,
and Brailliant.
b.. When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no 
longer

automatically placed in the body of the message. To find the body of the
message, the user must either swipe or explore by touch. It is our
understanding that this change is not by design, and that we should expect
to see this revert back to the previous behavior in a future iOS release.
c.. The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the 
'Actions'

rotor item when VoiceOver focus lands on an element which has actions
available.
d.. In certain situations, VoiceOver will randomly speak the contents 
of

previous notifications which do not appear onscreen visually. This issue
does not occur consistently, and the notifications are no longer spoken 
once

s

Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Brent Harding]

One annoying bug I hope does get fixed is that when streaming from Tunein, if a 
notification comes in, it incessantly speaks over and over, even if you try to 
unlock the phone and get it off the screen. Shutting vo off and putting it back 
on does work, but it takes several seconds after tripple clicking home to make 
the madness stop.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; mac4thebl...@freelists.org 
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 1:12 PM
  Subject: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for 
VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users


  Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver 
and Focus Braille Display Users

  AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products ...  /  
AppleVis


  Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.

  For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that Apple has 
made continued progress towards addressing the accessibility bugs present in 
iOS 10. However, despite this progress, our testing also suggests that a number 
of accessibility bugs have been introduced in this release—one of which we 
believe to be potentially critical for those who use the Focus line of braille 
displays. Thus, if you have not already updated your device to iOS 10.2, we 
strongly recommend that you read this post and any comments below before doing 
so.

  As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test all 
devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the first version of 
iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not common to all users and use 
cases, it is very likely that there are changes, regressions or improvements 
that we are not aware of at the time of posting. With this in mind, we would 
greatly appreciate your help in ensuring that the information on this page is 
as complete and accurate as possible. If you spot any accessibility-related 
changes in iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the comments.

  Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2
a.. Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays may 
experience issues pairing their display with devices running iOS 10.2. The 
information we have available to us suggests that this issue primarily affects 
users who attempt to re-pair a Focus display which has previously been 
un-paired from the same iOS device, although in our testing it was also 
impossible to pair a Focus display for the first time when running iOS 10.2. It 
is our understanding that Focus displays paired before updating to iOS 10.2 
should continue to work correctly. This issue was apparently discovered very 
late in the beta cycle, and Apple has assured us that a fix is in the works and 
will be released in the near future. In the meantime, we recommend that you do 
not upgrade to iOS 10.2 if you use a Focus braille display and have a use case 
which may require you to un-pair and re-pair the display, or if you may need to 
pair a Focus display for the first time before Apple releases a fix. At the 
time of posting, we believe that the Focus line of displays are the only 
displays affected by this issue; in addition to the Focus 14 Blue and Focus 40 
Blue, the models we were able to test under iOS 10.2 include the Braille Edge, 
Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, VarioUltra, and Brailliant. 
b.. When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no longer 
automatically placed in the body of the message. To find the body of the 
message, the user must either swipe or explore by touch. It is our 
understanding that this change is not by design, and that we should expect to 
see this revert back to the previous behavior in a future iOS release. 
c.. The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the 'Actions' 
rotor item when VoiceOver focus lands on an element which has actions 
available. 
d.. In certain situations, VoiceOver will randomly speak the contents of 
previous notifications which do not appear onscreen visually. This issue does 
not occur consistently, and the notifications are no longer spoken once speech 
is stopped or focus is moved to another element. 
  Accessibility Bugs Fixed in iOS 10.2
a.. It is once again possible to navigate by character when in a text field 
on a web page. 
b.. Enhanced Quality voices no longer occasionally revert to their compact 
variants. 
c.. The Enhanced Quality Siri voices are once again available for use with 
VoiceOver in all use cases. 
d.. It is now possible to manage shared access in the Home app using 
VoiceOver. 
e.. VoiceOver now correctly announces the status of the Love and Dislike 
buttons in the Music app. 
f.. VoiceOver now correctly provides feedback on the current selection 
status when editing the list of mailboxes / folders in the Mail app. 
g.. There is no longer a duplicated heading at the top of the 'For You' tab 
of the native News app. 
h.. Voic

Re: issues with uber update

[Brent Harding]

I always type in the address to pick me up, but I believe either Uber even 
maps that incorrectly, or just uses whatever it gets anyways. In fact, last 
night, the driver said that my pin showed up inside the building, not sure 
if it was the correct one, as it was one on the wrong street, even with the 
right address put in. The other not fun part was that the four minute ETA 
seemed to go on for about 15-20 minutes, as I believe they're trying to do 
things more like the taxis in accepting the next trip while the previous one 
is going, and me and the previous passenger were on opposite sides of town, 
where it might actually take that long. I was about to cancel and try again 
after a certain time, when the eta finally started steadily going down, so I 
didn't do that. I wish it would give the time when we requested, so we could 
know when 5 minutes late after that first ETA is when we can then cancel fee 
free for that. I just thought he was sitting around at first going in 
circles somewhere across town.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Thompson" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: issues with uber update


There are a few things about the most recent Uber update that I don't like. 
But for the most part, I have figured out ways to work around a couple of my 
issues. I'm definitely annoyed with the fact that it no longer tells you 
what your current location is. So often, the GPS pan can be a few addresses, 
or blocks off. Therefore, I just wind up typing in my location, which is 
something that I did most of the time before the update anyway. I haven't 
done so yet, but I'm planning to write to Uber to voice my concerns about 
this most recent update.


KbtSent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I can't speak for the Uber app or the service as it is only available in a 
few cities in Canada, but as far as GPS goes it should be accurate enough 
for this purpose. Provided you have a good view of the sky and aren't in a 
building or a super-narrow area surrounded by high-rise buildings GPS 
accuracy should be 5 meters (about 16 feet) or for sure it should be 10 
metres (about 32 feet). This mya not be good enough to find an exact spot, 
but good enough for most uses.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Pablo C. Morales

Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 3:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: issues with uber update

I have been getting difficulties with uber since more than one month ago. 
Before I was able to select my pick up in a list of choices, now I have to 
find where I am. The current position doesn't work very well, because we 
know that GPS are no so accurate. Moreover before I had more control on 
the app, but in the last updates uber has done a lot of steps back.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Deb Lewis

Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 12:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: issues with uber update

I didn't have any difficulty with this latest update which I downloaded 
just now. So I would recommend deleting and reinstalling it. It logged in 
fine for me.



On 12/6/16, SCOTT VAN GORP  wrote:
Hi List:

Anyone else having issues with the latest update to the uber app?
Now, instead of taking me to the familiar screen that would have
already logged in with my email and password, it presents me with a
screen to enter my phone number or log in with facebook. When I enter
my mobile number, it says that uber can't recognize it.  Any ideas? I
really don't want to log in with facebook if I can help it,  so any
help would be  most appreciated. I can't even go to a request screen
to get a ride! I don't seem to find a place to add my phone number to an 
uber profile,  so I'm stuck. Thannks!


Cordially:

Scott Van Gorp

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Re: My thoughts regarding Directv Now

[Brent Harding]

How is the app to use with iOS? This is what I'd be stuck with until I would 
receive the Apple TV, should I take that offer, which would still be worth the 
$105 plus fees and tax, even if I would end up cancelling after the 3 month 
prepay. I thought one of the messages out there suggested that it totally muted 
the phone, so how does one unmute if you don't have sighted help that knows 
anything about using smart phones?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:29 PM
  Subject: Re: My thoughts regarding Directv Now


  The fact that the channels are not named is a huge huge issue. When you have 
over 100 channels, you need to know what they are. What sighted person do you 
know who would put up with that for one second?
  Mary



  Sent from my iPhone

  On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:


Well, this is what I have managed to do. browse channels, add to favorite, 
and search for channels.  To browse the channels, go into guide, click on the 
all channels button, swipe once to the right, and then swipe down, as you swipe 
down, the channels will not be named, but you can get info on what’s currently 
on, and what is coming up.  If you find a channel you want to add to favorites, 
swipe left, it willl say highlight to favorites, click that and your done.  
Voiceover won’t tell you its checked, but it is.  Once you are done, back out 
of the guide, and go back in, but this time swipe down to favorites and click 
there.  This will give you your favorites in alphabetical order.  Also, if you 
know what channel you want to watch, use the search, it is very helpful.  If 
anyone else wants to discuss this app, I can host a conference in the zoom app 
so we can exchange tricks and tips.  Just let me know 
kliph...@icloud.com
HTH

  On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Terri Stimmel  
wrote:


  Hello everyone,


  I have read all the thread so far. I have some thoughts I would like to 
  share. I can't answer all the issues people are having. So I apologize 
  for this in advance. And these are just my thoughts, and opinions. So 
  please try not to take anything I say personally.


  First of all, I do not find this App terrible at all. I am quite happy 
  that I signed up, and I will most likely keep the service once my free 
  trial is over.

  Yes, I do agree that a lot still needs to be worked out, in order for 
  this app to be more accessible, or even completely accessible.

  I prefer this app over Sling TV. I honestly really disliked that app. 
  Yes it might have listed the channel numbers. But even though it did 
  this, you had to either watch the channel, until you learned what the 
  channel was, or you had to get sighted assistance. You couldn't do most 
  things with the app, such as add to favorites, or know what you were 
  watching.

  Not to mention, their tech support was down right awful!


  Now as for the Directv Now app, I still have a lot to learn. But I am 
  looking forward to learning it. I know I will have frustrations along 
  the way. But I feel it's worth it to me.


  When the app came up after I was signed in, a channel came on right 
  away. When I swiped to the left, or the right, the channels would change.

  If I would touch the track pad, the show would pause. At least, I think 
  I am remembering that correctly. I was able to swipe left and right, 
  where I then saw some options.


  I somehow discovered that I could see what show I was watching, and how 
  long the show would still be on. When I swiped down, I could see some of 
  the shows that were coming up.

  Unfortunately, I haven't got a clue how I managed to do this. I wish I 
  could know what I did. But I know I will figure it out again. When I do, 
  I will write it down, so I can share it with all of you.


  I haven't tried to add any channels to my favorites. I want to do this, 
  most definitely! But I think I will wait until my sighted friend can 
  help me. This way, I can choose what I want, and make a list as to the 
  order they are in. At least until I get it memorized.


  I would like to know how I see the channels ordered by catagory, or 
  whatever that is, that someone mentioned.


  Also, someone mentioned there were networks listed at the bottom of the 
  screen.

  How do I find these, and how do I figure out what the buttons are, that 
  were mentioned?

  I guess just by trial and error, really.

  Also, have they started the on-demand service yet? I would imagine this 
  might take some time. But when it happens, I really hope we can access 
  it in some way.


  I do agree that the website is horrible to use. The really need to fix 
  that, fast! The sooner the better, would be much appreciated!

Re: Directtv.now

[Brent Harding]

I think the Apple TV itself retails for close to the same as the 3 months 
anyways, but I assume you need to decide on this before you decide to take the 
trial? How does one deal with the captcha on the iPhone? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Directtv.now


  You can sign up using Safari on your iPhone. Just be aware that a lot of the 
things that are "clickable" are not noted as controls presumably because 
they're not marked as such in the normal HTML way. So you have to be a little 
bit creative and guessing what you're supposed to double tap on. Shame on AT&T 
for their crappy excess ability, but you can do it. If you sign up, then they 
offer you the chance to get the Apple TV if you want to sign up for three 
months. All this is doable, although not in a straightforward fully accessible 
way.

  Sent you prepay for those three months, and you cannot get a refund, that is 
you cannot cancel and get your money back, if you try it and don't like it. I 
assume that is because you will have been sent the AppleTV.
   from my iPhone

  On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:


I don't have an Apple TV and was thinking about getting one through this 
offer. I don't yet have Windows 8 either, so how can I sign up with this offer?
Would it be worth getting as far as accessibility goes?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kliphton Miller 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:06 PM
  Subject: Re: Directtv.now


  We will be discussing this in a weekly apple conference that I host.  
Info is below.  But today is the direct TV now app. 
  Come join our everything apple discussion.  This is a conference held 
every Wednesday at 3:30PM Eastern.  Hosted by Matt Vollbrecht and Kliph Miller. 
 In this conference call we discuss everything apple.  New devices, features, 
accessibility, and up coming events. We hold this meeting in a app called 
“Zoom.  Download it here
  https://appsto.re/us/BjWKG.i


  At this time, the free version of the zoom app only allows 50 
participants, so it is first come first serve.  All questions and comments are 
heard just keep it civil.
  to join this conference, click the following link

  https://zoom.us/j/652703259




  As long as you have installed xoom, you will be in the conference.  If 
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On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Hope Paulos  wrote:


I am also trying the free seven day trial for DirecTV now. I cannot 
seem to figure out how to add channels to my favorites, so that I can access 
them frequently. The guide seems to work for me, and the search feature does as 
well. Can someone tell me how to access the networks, on the bottom right of 
the screen, there is a subscribe button, a show all button, and an unsubscribe 
button. How do I use these?

Hope Paulos

On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kliphton Miller  
wrote:


  down load it here 
  https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/directv-now/id1136238277?mt=8


On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Fred Olver  
wrote:


Linda, I expect that one will be able to download the app to their 
Apple TV.

Fred
  - Original Message -
  From: Lynda Ingraham
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 4:02 PM
  Subject: Directtv.now


  Hi Everyone, 
  I understand about watching direct tv on mobile devices. Is there 
a way to watch on either a regular or smart tv? 
  Thank you, 
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Re: Directtv.now

[Brent Harding]

I don't have an Apple TV and was thinking about getting one through this offer. 
I don't yet have Windows 8 either, so how can I sign up with this offer?
Would it be worth getting as far as accessibility goes?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kliphton Miller 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:06 PM
  Subject: Re: Directtv.now


  We will be discussing this in a weekly apple conference that I host.  Info is 
below.  But today is the direct TV now app.
  Come join our everything apple discussion.  This is a conference held every 
Wednesday at 3:30PM Eastern.  Hosted by Matt Vollbrecht and Kliph Miller.  In 
this conference call we discuss everything apple.  New devices, features, 
accessibility, and up coming events. We hold this meeting in a app called 
“Zoom.  Download it here
  https://appsto.re/us/BjWKG.i


  At this time, the free version of the zoom app only allows 50 participants, 
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  to join this conference, click the following link

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On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Hope Paulos  wrote:


I am also trying the free seven day trial for DirecTV now. I cannot seem to 
figure out how to add channels to my favorites, so that I can access them 
frequently. The guide seems to work for me, and the search feature does as 
well. Can someone tell me how to access the networks, on the bottom right of 
the screen, there is a subscribe button, a show all button, and an unsubscribe 
button. How do I use these?

Hope Paulos

On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:


  down load it here
  https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/directv-now/id1136238277?mt=8


On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:


Linda, I expect that one will be able to download the app to their 
Apple TV.

Fred
  - Original Message -
  From: Lynda Ingraham
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 4:02 PM
  Subject: Directtv.now


  Hi Everyone, 

  I understand about watching direct tv on mobile devices. Is there a 
way to watch on either a regular or smart tv? 

  Thank you, 

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Re: direct tv now

[Brent Harding]

The directvnow.com site still shows coming soon, so it looks like all those 
details might be revealed tomorrow morning.


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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:50 AM
Subject: direct tv now



Hello,
I looked at the link provided concerning the service.  I was needing a 
channel listing and also how to sign up for the service.
If someone could provide these two pieces of information I would 
appreciate it.


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Re: direct TV now, launches on november 30th

[Brent Harding]

I'm thinking about wanting to get this. I wonder if it will be accessible using 
voiceover on either iOS or the Apple TV? I'd create a new problem for myself in 
that my TV only has one HDMI port, and the little DTA box TWC uses appears to 
only use HDMI as well. If it weren't for the complex providing the preferred 
package free, that would end up gone, or down to the most basic level that 
still gets the locals that the DirecTV Now might be missing. I've always found 
TWC's on demand app to be fiddly in the sense that some shows disappear within 
2 days after air, and others stay around awhile, even on an episode by episode 
basis of the same show, probably bugs that were never fixed, I've got to think 
that the new DirecTV Now one will work better. For example once, the voice 
aired on Monday, became available on Tuesday with an expiration date of 
Wednesday, so if you miss Monday, you must watch on Tuesday or never at all. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:17 PM
  Subject: Re: direct TV now, launches on november 30th


  If you want to get the hundred channels package that normally cost $60 for 
35, don't wait for that cloud DVR to show up.
  Mary



  Sent from my iPhone

  On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Rajiv Shah  wrote:


Hi,


The only drawback for the moment is no cloud DVR. Otherwise, a very good 
deal.


Rajiv

- Original Message -
From: Kliphton Miller 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:28:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: direct TV now, launches on november 30th


  Direct TV Now is swinging for the fences!  Not only are they offering a 
free appleTV4 if you commit to 3 months of service, but for a limited time, you 
can get over 100 channels for 35 bucks, and add on HBO and cenamax for only 5 
bucks each.   That is huge!  Considering HBO is 15 bucks by itself on appleTV 
and other cable providers.  Read more here
  
https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/28/att-directv-now-channels-price-launch-details/





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Re: Sling tv

[Brent Harding]

That doesn't sound too bad coming from a spot where the cable box guide 
gives us nothing at all to work with because it doesn't talk. At least the 
work arounds should be consistent, at least until an update is done. Work is 
sort of like that too in one of the main programs I use, except with the 
Jaws cursor, the results get inconsistent in that parts get cut off, and 
it's usually the option I need. It might do it rarely, and then one day, it 
might happen every other call, and I have to get someone to scroll the 
screen for me. I like it that with Apple, at least most of the time, you can 
always get to everything, or at least a consistent result you can work 
around.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terri Stimmel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Sling tv


Hi Kliphton,


No, it's not the way to have to do it. But if it works for now, then
that's what matters.


I did discover these tabs at one point. I can't remember exactly where I
was when I discovered them. I think I had a channel on. But I couldn't
access those either.


In a way, I feel it's just like cable. I couldn't ever watch anything
on-demand without sighted help, or on pay-per-view. But at least I could
go right to a channel.


Now what is this thing with Direct tv I'm hearing of?

I don't know how to look it up, or I would. But I don't know what to
look for.


Thank you,


Terri


On 11/13/2016 10:04 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
Yes, going threw the channels with someone sited is very helpful.  Should 
we have to do it?  Of course not, but not everyone makes there apps 
accessible, so this is the next best thing.  Also, pay attention to the 
number of channels, they add and remove some from time to time.
On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Terri Stimmel  
wrote:


Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,

Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this.
Or I mean, trial.
I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I
couldn't cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there
would be no problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I
feel pretty good about this.

The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have
been very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are
ignorant in a lot of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking
the truth.

For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a
listing of channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be
helpful. I told him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as
the first guy who had helped me set up my account.

However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of
channels. He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he
said, after you see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will
see a link for channels, and packages. Something like that anyway. I
decided to not repeat that I was blind, and that I wouldn't see the
pictures.
I played around with the site, and I did find where I could view the
channel listings. It of course doesn't give you a number. But you can
find out what is available, and what package it is in. I found this all
works better with Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer for some reason.

And Kliphton, Fox is channel 1 on mine as well. I think channel 4, or 5
is Fox Midwest, as I ended up watching a little bit of a hockey game.
That was cool!

I asked my roommate when he got home last night, if he would go through
the channels with me, and he said yes. So I am excited about this.

Terri
On 11/13/2016 8:48 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
yah, that’s it.  I think it depends on your area, my channel 1 is my 
local fox channel.
On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Terri Stimmel 
 wrote:


Hi Kliphton,


It's under guide. I played around with it, and found the channels. Of
course, like you mentioned, it doesn't say what they are. But it lists
the numbers, and says when I am on one. It says, sellected. I can get
the channels to play, so far.


I signed up for the blue, and orange package. I would like to know what
the orange extra package is, if I plan to keep this.

By the way, apparently, channel 1 is FX.


I'm sorry you have been dealing with a loss, and a funeral.


Thank you for your help with this. If you think of anything else, 
please

let me know.


Thank you,


Terri


On 11/12/2016 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a 
funeral, and haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks.
On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel 
 wrote:


Hello Kliphton, and list,


Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't 
planning

on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install it.

I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found that 
to

be a bit odd.


Anyway, I couldn't find a watch now option. I found my tv, on now,
search, settings, and possibly something else. I just can't remember
what it 

Re: Sling tv

[Brent Harding]

I heard the speculation on Twitter that suggested that DirecTV Now could 
come any week now, the articles suggested by the end of November. Another 
one I'm watching out for is a newcomer called VidGo, whose selling point 
seems to be being able to have the local channels as well. The guy I talked 
with suggested that pricing would be competetive with the other offerings 
around, but it either isn't known yet or varies by area.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kliphton Miller" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Sling tv


I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, and if 
you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t accessible, 
adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to watch now, there is 
a list of channels from left to right.  Now, the channels weren’t read by 
voiceover, but I went threw the channels with my sited children, and wrote 
down the ones I wanted to remember in a note on my iPhone.  After going 
threw them a few times, I remember what each one was.  So, if I wanted to 
watch TBS, I knew it was 14 of 67, if I wanted to watch oxygen, I knew it 
was 34 of 67, and if I wanted to watch USA, I knew it was 18 of 67.  a 
little getting use to, but that method worked for me.  I am only using it 
until direct TV now launches its service next week, once it does, I am gone! 
They will be offering more channels for less. HTH

On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:

When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they 
provide this kind of information so others will know and not go through 
the struggle and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others 
when they say something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I was 
interested in Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste my 
time.


-Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sling tv

Hello everyone,


I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
trial.


I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.

I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!


So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.


It doesn't work!

I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
come up.


I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
the menu.

So how hard can it be?


I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.


I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
Even if many of you already knew all this.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: a media live reader

[Brent Harding]

So, what does this app do?

- Original Message - 
From: "Gordon" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 2:29 PM
Subject: a media live reader


So I was looking at this app and saw that it costs $29. I'm wondering if 
anyone out here has it and how well it works? Also is there a podcast of 
audio description of this app in use?


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Re: an Uber question

[Brent Harding]

I thought it can happen with x as well, to tee up the next one if they are 
close to where your destination is, but pool is hsared for sure.


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: an Uber question


If you are using Pool, the driver can take other calls, as this is a 
shared ride program.



-Original Message- 
From: Shaf Patel

Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an Uber question

What Uber service were you taking? A driver said they couldn't get any
other calls while they were already on a trip - I was using Uber X.
Maybe they were using two ridesharing services at the same time?

On 10/11/2016 10:13 PM, Jeremy Gilley wrote:

actually, they can get calls while they are driving you.
This has happened to me.
Even the customer has called the driver and asked where they were.
Being that this call was through the car speakers, i could hear both 
sides

of the call.
The driver explained that he had to drop me off and he would come to get
them.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Shaf Patel
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an Uber question

No, she just didn't want to wait around for you. An Uber driver cannot
get another call while they're already on a trip. Instead of lying, she
should have just said she wasn't prepared to wait.

On 10/11/2016 12:24 AM, Jeremy Gilley wrote:
I have tried this, and the woman said if I get a call while your inside, 
I

got to go.
Needless to say, she split just as soon as I got out of the car.
So, I think it is up to the driver.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Kliphton Miller
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an Uber question

That is exactly how it works.  I know about 5 uber drivers, and this is

the

way they prefer it.

On Oct 10, 2016, at 6:21 PM, Chris Judd 

wrote:


Sarai,

Here is what I do.  I request the uber, and then if I have time, I tell

the driver that this will be a round trip.  I say just keep the trip

going,

and don't complete the trip till we get back to my house.  That usually
works.

Hope this helps,

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-Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:56 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: an Uber question


Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

Hi guys:
I've only used Uber to go from point A,  to point B. My question is can

you use Uber to run several different errands at once without having to

call
for multiple trips?  If so, how can you do this in the app, then find 
the

Uber driver once you exit your stores?

As an example, I call Uber, want to go to the grocery store, will be

there
only 5 min to grab milk and bread. Then, I want to go to CVS to run 
inside

and pick up an RX. Then I want to call in an order to Beef O'bradys for
takeout. I'd then have to walk inside the restaurant, pickup food, get

back

in uber. Then I want to swing through the Starbucks drive through  to

pickup

a large tea. Then, return home. This is an example, but I don't want to

have

to call an Uber after each trip. For one thing, probably a 15 minute

wait..

and my food will get cold!


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Re: an Uber question

[Brent Harding]

From what I read about Uber, the drivers can start to get in trouble if they 
don't accept more than a certain percentage of calls. I thought I heard one 
of my drivers get another one when I was almost home once on a busier day, 
but luckily it seems to not happen too often.


- Original Message - 
From: "Jeremy Gilley" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:13 PM
Subject: RE: an Uber question



actually, they can get calls while they are driving you.
This has happened to me.
Even the customer has called the driver and asked where they were.
Being that this call was through the car speakers, i could hear both sides
of the call.
The driver explained that he had to drop me off and he would come to get
them.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shaf Patel
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an Uber question

No, she just didn't want to wait around for you. An Uber driver cannot
get another call while they're already on a trip. Instead of lying, she
should have just said she wasn't prepared to wait.

On 10/11/2016 12:24 AM, Jeremy Gilley wrote:
I have tried this, and the woman said if I get a call while your inside, 
I

got to go.
Needless to say, she split just as soon as I got out of the car.
So, I think it is up to the driver.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Kliphton Miller
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an Uber question

That is exactly how it works.  I know about 5 uber drivers, and this is

the

way they prefer it.

On Oct 10, 2016, at 6:21 PM, Chris Judd 

wrote:


Sarai,

Here is what I do.  I request the uber, and then if I have time, I tell

the driver that this will be a round trip.  I say just keep the trip

going,

and don't complete the trip till we get back to my house.  That usually
works.

Hope this helps,

Chris Judd
Twitter administrator for the Missouri Council of the blind.
Follow us on twitter @missouricouncil
Our website is:
http://moblind.org
-Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:56 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: an Uber question


Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

Hi guys:
I've only used Uber to go from point A,  to point B. My question is can

you use Uber to run several different errands at once without having to

call

for multiple trips?  If so, how can you do this in the app, then find the
Uber driver once you exit your stores?

As an example, I call Uber, want to go to the grocery store, will be

there
only 5 min to grab milk and bread. Then, I want to go to CVS to run 
inside

and pick up an RX. Then I want to call in an order to Beef O'bradys for
takeout. I'd then have to walk inside the restaurant, pickup food, get

back

in uber. Then I want to swing through the Starbucks drive through  to

pickup

a large tea. Then, return home. This is an example, but I don't want to

have

to call an Uber after each trip. For one thing, probably a 15 minute

wait..

and my food will get cold!


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Re: New Sams Club app

[Brent Harding]

They just replaced all the vending machines at work with this new self-checkout 
concept, making it that much harder for me to get a soda. The hard part now 
literally is finding someone around at lunch to help, since my lunch time is at 
a time not many people take, since other shifts seem to be what is preferred 
around there. I heard this idea is eventually coming to restaurants. I wonder 
how we can be able to even order or get things in the future if it starts to 
take off?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 2:32 PM
  Subject: RE: New Sams Club app


  It is not that different from self checkout lanes, if somebody really wanted 
to steel smaller items that way they can also do so, all they would have to do 
is hold a smaller item behind a larger one when they scan at the self checkout 
and then put it back in the cart. I think all of these systems count on most 
people being honest, but I am equally sure that these big companies also factor 
in a percentage of theft/disception. On the other hand they are basically 
making the shoppers perform the work a casheer usually would perform so they 
are saving money and I doubt people steel more this way then any other way. If 
somebody wants to steel they do it regardless and either get away with it or 
not. If they get caught they typically get a slap on the wrist which in most 
cases won't prevent them from doing it again on the next day or the next week.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jeremy Gilley
  Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 2:47 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: New Sams Club app

   

  So, I found this to be very interesting.

  What is preventing someone to scan a few items, and slip smaller items into 
their cart with out scanning?

  They don't have to see a casheer to verify all items have been paid for?

  I don't think the person at the door looks at all the items in the cart and 
what was paid for that closely do they?

  This just feels like an open door to someone getting away without paying for 
everything if they can get away with it.

  Anyways, not bashing, just some thoughts that came to mind.

   


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  For Sams Club members there is a new app called Scanb to go. It will allow 
you to scan your items as you place them in your cart. It will keep a running 
total and when you are done you can pay with your phone and show the receipt on 
your phone to the person at the door, thus by-passing the cashier. It is 
accessible but unfortunately knowing where they place the bar codes isn't.

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Re: Spectrum TV App

[Brent Harding]

Hmmm, can anyone get this, or is it like Time Warner where you have to have 
Charter to have it. Can Time Warner customers get this thing yet? I know their 
app has gone backwards in accessibility in that I can't get on demand to play 
any more from ios. This solution might be better.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Logan 
  To: Vi Phone 
  Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 11:22 AM
  Subject: Spectrum TV App


  Hello,

  Has anyone had any experience with this app?  I just recently subscribed to 
the Spectrum Stream which is Charter’s answer to Sling TV.  The app is pretty 
accessible, and with at least TBS it has the ability to swap to the Spanish SAP 
feed and get video description.  It doesn’t seem to be able to do the same for 
the local networks.  So, trying to find out if it’s Charter not doing this in 
the app .. or my local channels not passing it on.  Just wondering if anyone 
else has used this app and if they are getting the DVS feeds ..

  Thanks ...


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Re: The ESPN App

[Brent Harding]

How do you get to them in the Apple Radio stuff? On Tunein, they do have a 
premium subscription that will get you MLB, NFL, and probably other sports by 
now for $8.99 per month. I usually subscribe during the NFL season.

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  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:17 PM
  Subject: Re: The ESPN App


  Luckily for me, I live in a market where the local ESPN radio station carries 
most of the Sunday night baseball games, I just liked to be able to use my 
phone if I need to use it instead of my radio.  I wrote to ESPN, using the 
feedback section  from my phone, and using its email address, or I would share 
the email they sent back. It basically said to hang in there while they got all 
the radio feeds moved over to the new app.  What?  They should have had it 
ready before they released it, or maybe that is a good excuse.  They also said 
they were available through TuneIn, and Apple Radio.  I'll bet the baseball 
games aren't, but I don't know that for sure.

  Arnold Schmidt  
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:18 PM
Subject: RE: The ESPN App


Hi Arnold.

 

Another way to hear ESPN Radio is with TuneIn.  This works well.  However, 
the MLB broadcasts may be blacked out in this app.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

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Re: Accessible banking in the United States

[Brent Harding]

I had an account at Ally for awhile, and I did have some accessibility 
issues online, and their app wasn't so great on accessibility then, not sure 
if it changed. The major issues on the web are that radio buttons and 
checkboxes are not identified as such and their status cannot be accessibly 
determined. It wasn't too bad otherwise, but at times you need to interact 
with these goofy controls. For online banks, Capitalone 360 and simple.com 
are great. For what issues exist with Simple for web accessibility, they 
make up for it in that their app on iOS is very accessible, and the rep I 
spoke with said they are continuing to improve accessibility. Capitalone360 
is reasonably usable on the web or phone, but I'm liking Simple quite a lot 
right now for their very close to real-time alerts on card activity, their 
phone support's willingness to help, and that notifications are sent to the 
phone for deposits as well, useful to know when that paycheck hits.


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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: Accessible banking in the United States


Bank of America is good, as Richard pointed out. Their website is a little 
frustrating, but the app is good. Ally Bank is another bank worth looking 
at, an online bank that will follow you about without worrying about 
traditional brick and mortar. Their best selling feature in my opinion is 
free ATM access anywhere.


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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:17 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Accessible banking in the United States

Hello,
I am getting ready to move to Virginia for a new job. So I will have to 
change all of my banks. Can anyone tell me if there is a bank in Virginia 
who has an accessible app for online banking? I would like to be able to pay 
all my bills through this.

Thanks
Nancy

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Re: sling TV and Apple TV question.

[Brent Harding]

I know FB and Google have a signle sign-on thing of sorts that many sites 
use, it only makes sense for Apple to get into this as well.


- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: sling TV and Apple TV question.


Wonder if this will be resolved with one of the new features in the upcoming 
TV OS 10, instant sign on.

On 19 Jun 2016, at 17:49, Larry McCreary  wrote:

hello,
On appel tv  go to settings and then to account.  I had to have some 
assistance here to find username and pw.  These items won’t be read.  Once 
you have loged in you will find that channels aren’t labeled  so they can 
be read.  You can get an idea of the channels by guide program content.  I 
am sure you know but you will need to sign up for a sling account. .

On Jun 19, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Wendy Alling  wrote:


Hi,
How accessible is the app?  I downloaded the app on my phone and also 
apple
TV.  I tried to set up my account on the apple tv and it would not let me 
do

it.  Apparently you have to set up your account online first.  Is this
correct?
Wendy

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Re: How do i get rid of anoying pokes on Facebook?

[Brent Harding]

I have two also, don't know who they are. Also, on the same idea of annoying 
email notifications, how do I see what the two group invites are I'm asked 
about?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 4:53 PM
  Subject: How do i get rid of anoying pokes on Facebook?


  Hi, sinse last year, Face book keeps telling me, that i have 1 poke.

  I use the iPhone app, and i also use the regular website.

  Still i can’t seem to get rid of this poke.

  Tryed clearing my notifications, when the button decides to show up! but 
still no avail!

  Personally, i don’t see the point of pokes, after all! if the person wants 
you, then why don’t they just inbox you?

  Any suggestions?

  Dave.

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Re: JAWS and Window-Eyes

[Brent Harding]

Yes, for all intents and purposes, with VFO owning AISquared and FS, it does 
appear that that one group owns both Window-Eyes and JFW now. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: JAWS and Window-Eyes


  Well, it looks like I may be passing on misinformation myself.
  I was told, many years ago, that Freedom Scientific was purchased by an 
investment group.
  Well, at least as of now, Freedom Scientific and VFO seem to be one in the 
same.
  Here is a link to an article on the Bloomberg web site:
  http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=188412


  I'm now feeling this will not have a good ending for those of us who use 
Window-Eyes.
  Richard




  “The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be 
pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
  Elizabeth Taylor
  (Sent from my iPhone 5S)

  On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:




Before too much misinformation is shared.
1. Last year, AI Squared merged with GW Micro so ZoomText and Window-Eyes 
were under the same roof.
Today, The investment conglomerate that bought Freedom Scientific over 10 
years ago and added Optelec in the last year or two has now purchased AI 
Squared.
So, no, Freedom Scientific doesn't own anything beside their own products.
No one knows what this will mean in the long run, but the reality is that 
mergers like this seldom end up with all the original companies remaining in 
tact.
In one sense, beyond NVDA and Dolphin, one major investment company now 
owns the majority of the Screen Reader market not to mention the screen 
magnification market.
Richard



“The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be 
pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
Elizabeth Taylor
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Jun 14, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


  Hi Keith,



  It sounds like this company AI Square owns Window-Eyes, I thought that 
was a product of GW Micro. If not then I guess this means Freedom Scientific 
now has acquired one of the biggest competitors of Jaws at least when it comes 
to paid screenreaders. Listening to the latest FS Cast from Jonathan it sounds 
like Freedom Scientific is definitely offering some super deals during the 
summer conventions for people to either buy Jaws for the first time or upgrade 
to the latest version if somebody has an older copy and didn’t maintain their 
SMA. $75 for Jaws is a total steal as is $50 for the upgrade from any old 
version to the latest Jaws 17.



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:37 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: JAWS and Window-Eyes



  Hi,



  Copying this from another list. Most of us use JAWS or Window-Eyes for 
iTunes on the PC. Thought it appropriate to share here. Sorry if not. Keith





  > Greetings,

  > Sending a link, and pasting in the text. I'm still processing this, wow!

  > 

  > http://www.aisquared.com/news/ai-squared-joins-vfo/.

  > 

  > 

  > Ai Squared joins VFO, home of Freedom Scientific and Optelec

  > 

  > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

  > 

  > Ai Squared joins VFO, home of Freedom Scientific and Optelec

  > 

  > ST. PETERSBURG, FL and MANCHESTER CENTER, VT – JUNE 14, 2016 – VFO, 
home 

  > of the Freedom Scientific and Optelec brands, announced today that it 
has 

  > acquired Ai Squared, a leading developer of screen magnification and 

  > screen reading software. Together, the companies offer the world’s 

  > broadest suite of assistive technology products for the 
visually-impaired. 

  > Each of the companies has a long history of providing innovative 

  > technology solutions that enable blind and low vision individuals to 
reach 

  > their full potential – to gain an education, obtain employment, succeed 
in 

  > professional careers, and live independently throughout their lives.

  > 

  > “Adding the brand, product portfolio and capabilities of Ai Squared to 
VFO 

  > gives us the broadest portfolio in the industry, unmatched global 

  > distribution and market leading customer support,” said John Blake, CEO 

  > and President of VFO. “The combined company will offer customers the 

  > industry’s most recognized screen magnification solutions, ZoomText and 

  > MAGic, and screen reading solutions, JAWS, ZoomText Fusion and 

  > Window-Eyes, next to the broad portfolio of video magnifiers, scan and 

  > read solutions, and refreshable Braille displays.”

  > 

  > “Delivering great solutions, services and support is our passion,” said 

Re: JAWS and Window-Eyes

[Brent Harding]

Yes, I have never been to one of those conventions, but I always look forward 
to the great audio coverage that comes out from them from Blind Bargains, 
Serotek, or whoever decides to do it from year to year.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:40 PM
  Subject: RE: JAWS and Window-Eyes


  Hi Keith,

   

  It sounds like this company AI Square owns Window-Eyes, I thought that was a 
product of GW Micro. If not then I guess this means Freedom Scientific now has 
acquired one of the biggest competitors of Jaws at least when it comes to paid 
screenreaders. Listening to the latest FS Cast from Jonathan it sounds like 
Freedom Scientific is definitely offering some super deals during the summer 
conventions for people to either buy Jaws for the first time or upgrade to the 
latest version if somebody has an older copy and didn’t maintain their SMA. $75 
for Jaws is a total steal as is $50 for the upgrade from any old version to the 
latest Jaws 17.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:37 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: JAWS and Window-Eyes

   

  Hi,

   

  Copying this from another list. Most of us use JAWS or Window-Eyes for iTunes 
on the PC. Thought it appropriate to share here. Sorry if not. Keith

   

   

  > Greetings,

  > Sending a link, and pasting in the text. I'm still processing this, wow!

  > 

  > http://www.aisquared.com/news/ai-squared-joins-vfo/.

  > 

  > 

  > Ai Squared joins VFO, home of Freedom Scientific and Optelec

  > 

  > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

  > 

  > Ai Squared joins VFO, home of Freedom Scientific and Optelec

  > 

  > ST. PETERSBURG, FL and MANCHESTER CENTER, VT – JUNE 14, 2016 – VFO, home 

  > of the Freedom Scientific and Optelec brands, announced today that it has 

  > acquired Ai Squared, a leading developer of screen magnification and 

  > screen reading software. Together, the companies offer the world’s 

  > broadest suite of assistive technology products for the visually-impaired. 

  > Each of the companies has a long history of providing innovative 

  > technology solutions that enable blind and low vision individuals to reach 

  > their full potential – to gain an education, obtain employment, succeed in 

  > professional careers, and live independently throughout their lives.

  > 

  > “Adding the brand, product portfolio and capabilities of Ai Squared to VFO 

  > gives us the broadest portfolio in the industry, unmatched global 

  > distribution and market leading customer support,” said John Blake, CEO 

  > and President of VFO. “The combined company will offer customers the 

  > industry’s most recognized screen magnification solutions, ZoomText and 

  > MAGic, and screen reading solutions, JAWS, ZoomText Fusion and 

  > Window-Eyes, next to the broad portfolio of video magnifiers, scan and 

  > read solutions, and refreshable Braille displays.”

  > 

  > “Delivering great solutions, services and support is our passion,” said 

  > David Wu, CEO of Ai Squared. “Now that Ai Squared has joined VFO, we will 

  > have even greater ability to fulfill our commitment to deliver the most 

  > innovative and useful solutions for users with visual impairments.”

  > 

  > VFO is committed to offering our end customers innovative technology 

  > solutions and market leading support at a level that is unmatched in the 

  > industry.

  > 

  > About VFO™

  > VFO is a leading global assistive technology provider for the visually 

  > impaired. The VFO brands, Freedom Scientific and Optelec, have a long 

  > history of developing and providing innovative solutions for blind and low 

  > vision individuals, helping them to reach their full potential. VFO has 

  > offices in St. Petersburg, Florida, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium, 

  > Canada, Germany and the United Kingdom, and through multi-tier 

  > distribution is available in more than 70 countries worldwide.

  > Media Contact:

  > Maarten Bosch

  > +31(0)88 6783407

  > www.vfo-group.com

  > i...@vfo-group.com

  > 

  > About Ai Squared™

  > For over 20 years, Ai Squared has been a worldwide leader in assistive 

  > technology solutions for people with visual impairments. Available in more 

  > than 23 languages and sold in 45 countries worldwide, Ai Squared’s screen 

  > magnification and screen reading products dramatically improve a computer’s 

  > usability and friendliness for users who are low vision or blind, raising 

  > user productivity, satisfaction, and independence. Ai Squared’s family of 

  > products include ZoomText, ZoomText Fusion, Window-Eyes, Sitecues, 

  > ZoomText Large-Print Keyboard, ZoomText ImageReader, the ZoomReader iOS 

  > app and the ZoomContacts iPad app. For more information, please visit Ai 

  

Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?

[Brent Harding]

Yes, and most of the carriers I know of that do it only support it when 
using a droid anyways, at least that is how Sprint does it, and it is an 
add-on cost.


- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:31 PM
Subject: RE: WWDC event, was it yesterday?


Some carriers offer this as a feature, but in this case it is an iOS feature 
and iOS will do the voice-to-text translation and display the text in the 
Phone app.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of englishride...@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?

I shouldn't think the carriers would have anything to do with that. What 
makes you think they would?



Thanks,
Ari


On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

That is a cool feature but I wonder how many phone carriers will support 
this feature.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

On Jun 14, 2016, at 12:59 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 wrote:


And how about Siri transcribing your voicemails? A wonderful addition to 
the deafblind. Imagine reading your voicemail messages with a Braille 
display? Again, all fascinating stuff.

On 14 Jun 2016, at 16:49, Devin Prater  wrote:

Sure, but little things add up to big changes. Siri gets integrated into 
predictive text, so she can suggest better options there, like I'm at 
(suggests input of location into the text)" and stuff like that. Siri is 
open to developers, so apps can allow Siri to use their functionality 
from anywhere. Apps can do things within iMessage, like allowing sending 
of money right from messages. Mac gets Siri, tabs in every multi-window 
app. People can collaborate with notes. Unlock Mac with Apple watch. 
Just amazing stuff!


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:

If you can't stream it, download my MP3 of the event and play it on
a stand alone device.  Apple announced incremental improvements,
not breakthrough technology.  Even Facebook with its calling
feature in the messages app, a Facetime mimmick, offered something
new.  Some of Apple's innovations will need to be experieinced to
be believed.  The photos app will now be able to recognize peple and 
places.


Kelly

On 6/14/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  
wrote:

Hi,

I was under the impression that the Apple event was yesterday. I
cannot stream it, no bandwidth! But, if it was yesterday, how come
the silence? Was it so unremarkable? Or do I have the wrong week?

Thanks, Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

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Re: Be My Eyes

[Brent Harding]

Isn't crowdviz on suspension while they create 2.0? I really hope not, as I 
bought one of the larger call packs while they were on promotion and never 
really used them that much.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:52 PM
  Subject: RE: Be My Eyes


  Hi Jewel,

   

  I used Be my Eyes for the first time a couple of days ago when I was trying 
to get past a captcha in the middle of the night when my wife was sleeping. 
After it rang for a bit it just sat there and I think said something about 
connecting, but it took probably a good 2 or 3 minutes before  very nice young 
lady with good English but a Russian accent picked up. She read the captcha for 
me in no time and while I was close, I was a bit wrong as she was from the 
Ucraine and not Russia.

  If Be my Eyes doesn’t work you can also try the app “Crowdvis” or “Crowdviz” 
not totally sure how it’s spelled.

  Sheep are not a problem here, but I usually do have some moose in my backyard 
in the fall/early winter. They stop by to eat the apples on my apple tree and 
more rarely a black bear may wonder in as well.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 7:39 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Be My Eyes

   

   

  Has anyone used BME recently?  I needed a pair of eyes in the head of a 
person who could tell me if I had some sheep in the backyard.
  The program made a connection, but there was no reply.
  From listening to the call sound, it seems to me that it goes in  cycles of 9 
rings.  After each 9, there is a slight pause before it starts again.
  of course, I don't know if it then tries another number, but I waited through 
many cycles before I tried to disconnect and that wasn't easy!  Once it had me 
on the line, it seemed that it was loath to let me go.

   

   Jewel

   

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Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers

[Brent Harding]

What about the ovens? Even if we can put braille on the most used controls, do 
they always start out on 350 degrees, or might we accidentally broil the 
cookies if a high temperature was the last thing used by someone else? I'm glad 
that the stove at my apartment is all analog because I can always set the 
marked dial where I want it to be, but those are likely a dying breed. I wonder 
also if the stove tops with the old style not flat burners are getting hard to 
find as well? 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:40 PM
  Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances 
like washers and dryers


  Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still 
work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and 
they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I 
should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years 
old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, 
Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only 
company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is 
Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele 
and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to 
some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, 
just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of 
whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a 
bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade 
again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might 
just do fine.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pinky
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances 
like washers and dryers

   

  Hey Sieghard,

  You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding.

  Ed

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like 
washers and dryers

   

  Hi List,

   

  The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an 
apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected 
appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, 
LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las 
Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things 
like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there 
are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home 
automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, 
dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 
20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top 
dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model 
which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with 
said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews 
on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”.

   

  I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I 
just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the 
model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one 
I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I 
decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told 
me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked 
and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting 
it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I 
would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I 
actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear 
that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing.

   

  I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 
6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display 
and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and 
nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model 
apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the 
high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible 
as it turns continuously and there is 

Re: Roomba 980 with an app!

[Brent Harding]

What makes these special compared to the cheaper ones before? I could see 
the utility in having a robotic vacuum because there's always those little 
spots one might miss around something, and I'd imagine it can do a better 
job than many of us.
- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Logan" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 with an app!


Ok, my unit arrived a couple of hours ago.  Setting it up was quite easy. 
There are a couple of really good unboxing videos on You Tube that might 
help.  The app has a few places where things aren't labelled the best, but 
you should be able to figure it out.  The basic things are all accessible...


Fired Mr. Roboto up...you can name the unit .. And he took off.  Did a 
pretty decent job ...


My suggestion is to make sure you buy it from a place that will allow you to 
return.  With spending almost $1K, you want to make sure it does all that 
you expect.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 27, 2016, at 6:15 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Hallo There!

   OK, so I am in the market for a new robot vacuum cleaner. The latest, 
from iRobot's Roomba range, is the 980 and it comes with an app! I want to 
know how accessible it is. I downloaded the app, and it looks OK, but, 
because I haven't, as yet, got the machine, needing to know if it will 
work for me with the app, I can't tell if it is usable with VO.


   So, my question is: does anyone have experience of the app and running 
the 980 Roomba. Now, before you all shout at me for profligacy, I know it 
costs an arm and a leg! I can only say that I have been seduced by the 
hype! I have long term experience of the Roombas and love them! This new 
one, not only has an app which should help with error analysis, but will 
allow me to start the thing off from anywhere and, it says, it will do the 
whole of one level of my house, going back to the charger for a refuel 
session and then continue where it left off.


   Anyway, I am almost convinced, but, with such a large outlay, just need 
to know about the accessibility.


   Can you help?

   Sandy

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Re: Any Time Warner app users out there

[Brent Harding]

Yes, and I heard Charter's app is even harder when it comes to on demand and 
accessibility. I wish some of that would've been included in the conditions 
they have to agree to for this to go through, at least, if the FCC couldn't 
make them make the app stuff accessible, to do the cable boxes by next year 
or whenever that is where new ones have to be accessible, supposedly.


- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Ketler" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: Any Time Warner app users out there


They probably won't worry about it too much since Charter is buying them 
out.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Don Breda

Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any Time Warner app users out there

The timewarner app has gone a few steps backwards in the latest version.

You now lose access to the dvr which worked in earlier versions and I
believe the guide is now less accessible.

You have to search for a show now instead of being able to just see
whats on.

They say they are working on fixing it.

Big sigh!

Don



On 05-May-16 1:57 PM, Myrna Votta wrote:

Hi,

We did switch from Time Warner to FIOS in the latter part of February, 
although I was uncertain about the accessibility of their FIOS Mobile app, 
which allows users to watch TV on an iDevice.  Actually, before we 
switched, I did write a message to this list, asking if anyone was using 
the app.  One person did say that she was using it successfully.  Well, I 
began to play with the app and I did it one day over the phone with a 
sighted friend who was using the app.  It really didn't make much 
difference if a sighted person or a blind person was using it.  But, the 
buttons in the menu were labeled for a sighted person and for a VoiceOver 
user, they all sounded like "circle arrow."  Once I picked the right 
"circle arrow" button, (I pressed the second one after hearing "menu 
Image,") all the channels are labeled correctly and there is an "option" 
button that is labeled after each one.  When that button is clicked, there 
are choices that are labeled.  So, my husband, who is also a Voiceover 
user, and I regularly watch TV using our iPhones.  Brian, I'd be happy to 
help you with the app.  If you want to just hear what it would be like, we 
can do it over the phone.  I don't have your phone number, so, if you do 
want help, send me an e-mail off list.  I will admit, though, that the 
Time Warner is easier to use, but, we really like FIOS much better and we 
are saving money with it.


Myrna



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Brian Fischler

Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any Time Warner app users out there

Thanks so much for confirming. Looks like I am going to make the switch 
back as the $30 in savings for Verizon Fios is not worth all the headaches 
with their absolute lack of accessibility and obviously they have no plans 
to improve the accessibility of their website or app. Ridiculous for a 
communications company to have such poor accessibility.

On May 3, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

I agree!


-Original Message- From: Donna
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 5:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any Time Warner app users out there

I use the TWC app to pay my bill & the TWC app to watch TV on the go. I 
find the app accessible.


Donna


On May 3, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

I am curious if there are any Time Warner customers out there and how 
accessible their app is for paying your bill and accessing content? I am 
currently with Verizon Fios and have had it with them as there is no way 
for a person using VoiceOVer on the mac to pay their bill and the app 
now has a captza on it that is completely inaccessible. Additionally 
Verizon Fios wants to charge you to pay your bill over the phone. Yes, I 
have discovered they could be the worse company out there. I had spoken 
to their E team about making things more accessible but have done so for 
over a year and still nothing, they are going in the wrong direction 
with their accessibility and I have had it with them. Also I still 
cannot get described video on the networks which I should be able to 
get. Thanks,


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Re: Voiceover playing through airplay

[Brent Harding]

Yes, it seems the last two updates to iOS 9 have gotten worse when it comes 
to this VO coming through airplay issue. When I need to restart vo to get 
the audio level to come back up to normal for the source I intend to play, 
vo comes through the speakers instead of the phone, and it loses connection 
promptly if you switch channels on the apps or ever use siri. Airplay usage 
has definitely gotten more buggy lately. I wish we could have it remember 
airplay sources to more easily turn it on when it keeps doing this.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 7:18 PM
Subject: Voiceover playing through airplay


Hi all,
I just had a very strange thing happen. I had been streaming something from 
my phone via airplay to my stereo. As always, voiceover was playing when I 
wanted it, through the iPhone speaker, not the stereo. I stopped the 
streaming, and started looking through email. I did some dictation. And 
voice over read back to me when I had dictated through my stereo, and 
continued to play through my stereo until I turned it off. This must be 
another aspect of the strange audio bug that has been around since iOS 9. I 
have never had it happen before and hope it doesn't happen again. The only 
way I got it to stop was to turn the stereo off.

Mary


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Re: some hulu questions

[Brent Harding]

Yes, my Hulu does that as well, as it allows for more width for people to 
see the video, even though a phone is probably not the ideal screen to watch 
on for a sighted person either. The audio, when using Airplay, can end up 
better than built-in TV speakers though, but the landscape orientation does 
throw me off.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: some hulu questions


I haven't used Hulu in a while, but the Netflix app goes into landscape 
mode when you start watching a show, so I'd think this would be normal 
behavior for Hulu as well.


On 27/04/16 00:42, Jed Barton wrote:

Hey guys,
I decided to download hulu and try it for a month, wow, this is awesome.
  1 of the things i noticed, when you start playing an episode, it goes
in to landscape mode and the phone orientation changes.  Is this normal?
1 of the networks i love to watch on tv is investigation discovery.  In
the networks section of the app, is there any way i can favorite it, and
get notified of new episodes?
In your general experience, how often does content on these various
networks get updated?

Thanks,
jed



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Re: Netflix

[Brent Harding]

It logs you out and resets all the settings for the app stored on the phone, 
I think.


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Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 8:28 AM
Subject: Netflix



Does anyone know what the reset button in settings for Netflix does?

Deidre

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Re: a more functional BT keyboard

[Brent Harding]

I'm not sure why they're hitting the gamer community by storm now. Maybe 
it's because they're more durable, and those guys don't want to keep buying 
keyboards all the time as they wear out the keys their games use the most.



- Original Message - 
From: "Rose Combs" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: a more functional BT keyboard



They felt more like the typewriters we all came from.


Rose Combs
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Brent Harding

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a more functional BT keyboard

I wonder why people like the so called mechanical keyboards that are
expensive? I heard they are starting to become a thing with gamers. I 
think

I'm too young to have remembered those.

- Original Message - 
From: "Rose Combs" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: a more functional BT keyboard


The Basics has a touch almost like a toy, I tend to have problems because 
it
is squishy but, the ability to tell if I actually turned it off is worth 
it,

once I have used it a bit I am sure I will get used to it, I did not like
the Apple keyboard at first either, not enough travel, too flat but I
learned to use it.
It was nice enough but, the fact that I could not tell if it was on or not
drove me crazy and wasted a lot of battery life.  Tom had Logitech 
something
that I truly liked, more like a desktop keyboard but I have not been able 
to
get it to connect to my 6 for some reason, it too had an on/off switch 
that

was tactile, also could charge it off a USB works on the iPad mini first
generation I have.  If I could have gotten it to connect to the phone it
would be there, I would not have bought the Basic.

I bought the keyboard in 2014, May 24th, two days before Tom's birthday, 
he

never used it, passed on May 30, 2014.  I brought it home and I don't know
how but I did connect it to the iPad.  It works sometimes now but for
several months it was great, has a nice touch.

Anyway, I am okay with the Amazon for now.


Rose Combs
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 10:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: a more functional BT keyboard

I never have had an Amazon basics, but the keyboard I have is my favorite
one out of the 5 that I have. It definitely has a great feel to it.

Jenn

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: a more functional BT keyboard

good size?  Good feel?  I am guessing it would work with the phone?


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 17:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: a more functional BT keyboard

I personally love my Logitech 810K. It is a wonderful keyboard.

Jenn

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
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I need to replace mine is there something more functional than that amazon
basics keyboard that just went tango uniform?


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Re: a more functional BT keyboard

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I wonder why people like the so called mechanical keyboards that are 
expensive? I heard they are starting to become a thing with gamers. I think 
I'm too young to have remembered those.


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From: "Rose Combs" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: a more functional BT keyboard


The Basics has a touch almost like a toy, I tend to have problems because it 
is squishy but, the ability to tell if I actually turned it off is worth it, 
once I have used it a bit I am sure I will get used to it, I did not like 
the Apple keyboard at first either, not enough travel, too flat but I 
learned to use it.
It was nice enough but, the fact that I could not tell if it was on or not 
drove me crazy and wasted a lot of battery life.  Tom had Logitech something 
that I truly liked, more like a desktop keyboard but I have not been able to 
get it to connect to my 6 for some reason, it too had an on/off switch that 
was tactile, also could charge it off a USB works on the iPad mini first 
generation I have.  If I could have gotten it to connect to the phone it 
would be there, I would not have bought the Basic.


I bought the keyboard in 2014, May 24th, two days before Tom's birthday, he 
never used it, passed on May 30, 2014.  I brought it home and I don't know 
how but I did connect it to the iPad.  It works sometimes now but for 
several months it was great, has a nice touch.


Anyway, I am okay with the Amazon for now.


Rose Combs
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jennie Facer

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 10:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: a more functional BT keyboard

I never have had an Amazon basics, but the keyboard I have is my favorite 
one out of the 5 that I have. It definitely has a great feel to it.


Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: a more functional BT keyboard

good size?  Good feel?  I am guessing it would work with the phone?


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jennie Facer

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 17:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: a more functional BT keyboard

I personally love my Logitech 810K. It is a wonderful keyboard.

Jenn

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a more functional BT keyboard

I need to replace mine is there something more functional than that amazon 
basics keyboard that just went tango uniform?



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Re: watch e s pn app and ipad

[Brent Harding]

Is this only for iPads, or is there this new ESPN app for the iPhone as 
well? I thought mine is still called Watch ESPN, and I have TWC. I know the 
buttons for the channel names and such used to be unlabeled, so you had to 
go in and then read the title to see what it is you ended up on.


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To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: watch e s pn app and ipad


You might not know that the Watch ESPN app has been replaced by an app that
is just called ESPN. I had accessibility issues with the Watch ESPN ap, but
have found that the new app works much better, at least with TWC.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Larry McCreary

Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: watch e s pn app and ipad

Hello, I am having difficulty getting e s p n to work on the watch espy app.
Speech has difficulty with e s p n.  Sling tv is my provider  and when I
attempt to select it in the watch e s p n app it is grayed.  Someone has
tried it on an iPad and can select sling as the provider and enter pw.  I
can’t figure out what is wrong with mine.  It has worked up until this week.
I would appreciate help.  I have reinstalled the app  restarted the iPad,
and it has the most current updates.  thanks much.

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Re: Apple music: why am I being asked to join when I have already joined?

[Brent Harding]

It appears to be fixed for me now. I think it was the whole App Store and 
iTunes Store.


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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: Apple music: why am I being asked to join when I have already 
joined?



Hi. They're having issues right now. Apparently a bunch of people are 
being asked to join.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Kimber Gardner  
wrote:


Hi All,

I signed up for apple music a little over a month ago and everything
seemed to be working fine. But recently, within the last few days, I
had been unable to add any music to my library. I would tap the
button, the icon would change briefly but the music would never be
added and could not be downloaded.

Now this morning, suddenly the music I couldn't download before is
downloading, but I am getting a screen that is asking me to join apple
music. Can anyone explain what the heck is going on?

Thanks

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Re: One incoming call routed to two different phones

[Brent Harding]

Even an old iPhone 4S with the latest OS becomes part of this as well. I 
have that old thing around to use as a test device, since for awhile, the 
online sites don't give much to sell them anyways. I wonder if Apple and the 
carriers take it to the next extreme in that if I have a call going on my 
iPhone 6 and another on hold for call waiting, will the third ring those 
other devices on the account, like the home version of call hunting?
- Original Message - 
From: "Iolaire" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: One incoming call routed to two different phones


Hi.  Thanks.  Fortunately the issue isn't a problem for me as I live alone 
and don't have to be concerned about sharing my phone calls or texts with 
anybody else.  The 5c is my backup phone and remains turned off 90 percent 
of the time and only gets turned on once in a while to keep the sim active. 
However, I will save your instructions in case my circumstances change or 
anybody else elsewhere has a problem with this issue, thanks again.  Walter.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: 19 December 2015 16:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: One incoming call routed to two different phones

Hi Walter,



Yes, this Is normal behavior if you use the same Apple Id on two iOS 
devices, but you can turn this off.


Many people like this feature especially if they have an iPhone and iPad. An 
iPad normally can’t receive phone calls, but if you use the same Apple Id 
you could have your iPhone plugged in to charge in the bedroom and sit in 
the living room with your iPad and still accept incoming phone calls.


The same goes for messages and this can also be turned off.



Calls on other devices”.

For phone calls, go to Settings > Phone, then double tap where it says 
“Calls on other devices”.


On the next screen you first of all have to turn this on or off. If it’s off 
then you won’t have any further options.


Underneath the On/Off switch you have the following explanation:

Use your iPhone’s cellular connection to make and receive calls on devices 
signed into your iCloud account when they are nearby and on WiFi.


If you turn it on, you then also have a list of available devices and you 
can turn each of them on or off independently. For example:


You may have bought a new iPhone 6S, but you still have your old 5S for use 
on WiFi only and maybe you also have an iPad. If this is the case and you 
use the same Apple Id for iCloud on all three devices, you would see both 
the iPhone 5S and the iPad listed here and you can turn both on or maybe 
just turn on the iPad and turn off the iPhone etc.




For messages, go to Settings > Messages and double tap on “Text Message 
Forwarding”. The explanation underneath reads as follows:


Allow your iPhone text messages to also be sent and received on other 
devices signed in to your iMessage account.


If you double tap on Text Message Forwarding, you then can again turn on or 
off any devices independently which show up in the list.


This is a bit different than the phone calls since for phone calls you have 
to use the same Apple Id for the iCloud account and here you have to use the 
same Apple Id for iMessages.


This is why it’s important to not use the same Apple Id even if you share 
the same Apple Id for app store and iTunes purchases. It is no problem to 
use a common Apple Id for app store and iTunes but to sign into iMessage and 
Facetime with a separate Apple Id which you only use for that purpose. This 
way each person in a family can have their own Apple Id for iMessage and 
Facetime, but use the same Apple Id to make and share purchases.


Even if you disable text message forwarding, if you use the same apple Id 
for iMessage and/or Facetime on two devices and let’s say you have one 
device and your wife has the other, if somebody sends you an iMessage to 
your Apple Id it would still show up on both devices. In other words, you 
want to make sure your girl-friend does not do that *smile*.




Best regards,

Sieghard

account



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Iolaire

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: One incoming call routed to two different phones



Hi folks.  First time I've ever known this to happen.  Have updated both my 
iPhone 5c and iPhone 6 to 9.2.  Both phones have different numbers and I was 
chatting to a friend in order to check for any bugs that might have come 
along with the upgrade.  I asked her to call me after I had ended the 
current call so I could check something else and she did so but when she did 
call back, both my phones rung despite both phones having completely 
different numbers.  My friend said it happens with her iPhone 5s and iPhone 
6 also.  Does anybody know why this should be?  My friend reckons it is 
because they both have 

Re: question about setting up OnCallDefender app found on Applevis

[Brent Harding]

You can, if you know the street address where the issue is, but when all you 
only know the parallel street and the streets ahead and behind, that isn't an 
address they can use. From what I read, the location is something the operator 
has to specifically request and can take up to 6 minutes for the phone company 
to process, and it likely uses whatever they have as opposed to the 
GPS/location services in the phone. With an app like this, the phone already 
sends the GPS info when you set it off, taking the waiting game and potentially 
less accuracy issues out of the equation. I did get an email from their 
support, and they said that the app doesn't work with any OS the iPhone 6 could 
run, but the app store compatibility list lists them all 4S, or maybe 3GS and 
above. That is probably because devs can't say 4S and older in their listing to 
make it unavailable to newer phones. I would assume that this app absolutely 
requires iOS 7 and less. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 11:37 PM
  Subject: RE: question about setting up OnCallDefender app found on Applevis


  Why not use 9-1-1 if there is an emergency?

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brent Harding
  Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 1:24 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: question about setting up OnCallDefender app found on Applevis

   

  I found this personal safety app on AppleVis called OnCallDefender. It is 
like a panic button for your phone that lets some kind of monitoring company 
know you need help in those situations one hopes will never happen. I may 
potentially be starting a job some time in the new year if all goes well, and 
walking home in the dark around 9 at night might be part of what I have to do 
for awhile until the earlier shift opens up. . My apartment is only around 4 
street crossings away from there, but safety is something I think about, but 
I'm not worried enough to say no to the offer if it comes my way. I tried to 
create an account and subscribe to this thing, presumably through an iTunes 
subscription, but all I get is the alert sound with the screen staying the 
same. In looking at the app store entry, the app hasn't been updated since 
2010, and it is advertised to be compatible with phones of that era. I am 
running iOS 9.2 on an iPhone 6. I tried doing the explore by touch thing to try 
to get to the fields to fill out to no avail. I have also tried restarting VO 
to get it to refresh its model of the screen, and that did nothing either. How 
can I make this thing let me sign up? Even though their site is still online, I 
have a small suspicion they killed it since the Applevis review was posted last 
year. Are there any similarly priced services with apps that are accessible 
that are still providing this kind of service? The demo part I did see looks 
tricky to actually activate because getting a tripple tap passed through VO 
correctly reminds me of the child-proof containers we are probably all glad we 
couldn't open as kids.

   

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Re: question about setting up OnCallDefender app found on Applevis

[Brent Harding]

Yes, I hope everything does work out. As for the app, it is a scary thought 
that if they did go defunct, people may be paying the automatic subscription 
and they won't realize that the service won't work until they have to set 
one off for real. The impression I get is that the demo function basically 
tests for cellular/network connectivity and GPS, but it doesn't raise a test 
alarm. I might have to look for something else. They could also be only 
allowing current subscribers to continue with it or the newer iOS versions 
since 2010 could've broken parts of it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Connie Mohney" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:18 PM
Subject: RE: question about setting up OnCallDefender app found on Applevis


Hello,
Good luck with the app and your new job.
Connie

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Merritt

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question about setting up OnCallDefender app found on Applevis

Try the app called Blue Light, which sounds like it does the same thing, 
allowing you to contact the nearest EMS services. When I got it it was free 
but there may be a subscription now. The app is very accessible, though 
there may be more exploring involved in the initial sign-up screens.


Good luck,
Wayne

On 12/15/15, Brent Harding  wrote:

I found this personal safety app on AppleVis called OnCallDefender. It
is like a panic button for your phone that lets some kind of
monitoring company know you need help in those situations one hopes
will never happen. I may potentially be starting a job some time in
the new year if all goes well, and walking home in the dark around 9
at night might be part of what I have to do for awhile until the
earlier shift opens up. . My apartment is only around 4 street
crossings away from there, but safety is something I think about, but I'm 
not worried enough to say no to the offer if it comes my way.

I tried to create an account and subscribe to this thing, presumably
through an iTunes subscription, but all I get is the alert sound with
the screen staying the same. In looking at the app store entry, the
app hasn't been updated since 2010, and it is advertised to be
compatible with phones of that era. I am running iOS 9.2 on an iPhone
6. I tried doing the explore by touch thing to try to get to the
fields to fill out to no avail. I have also tried restarting VO to get
it to refresh its model of the screen, and that did nothing either.
How can I make this thing let me sign up? Even though their site is
still online, I have a small suspicion they killed it since the
Applevis review was posted last year. Are there any similarly priced
services with apps that are accessible that are still providing this
kind of service? The demo part I did see looks tricky to actually
activate because getting a tripple tap passed through VO correctly reminds 
me of the child-proof containers we are probably all glad we couldn't open 
as kids.


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question about setting up OnCallDefender app found on Applevis

[Brent Harding]

I found this personal safety app on AppleVis called OnCallDefender. It is like 
a panic button for your phone that lets some kind of monitoring company know 
you need help in those situations one hopes will never happen. I may 
potentially be starting a job some time in the new year if all goes well, and 
walking home in the dark around 9 at night might be part of what I have to do 
for awhile until the earlier shift opens up. . My apartment is only around 4 
street crossings away from there, but safety is something I think about, but 
I'm not worried enough to say no to the offer if it comes my way. I tried to 
create an account and subscribe to this thing, presumably through an iTunes 
subscription, but all I get is the alert sound with the screen staying the 
same. In looking at the app store entry, the app hasn't been updated since 
2010, and it is advertised to be compatible with phones of that era. I am 
running iOS 9.2 on an iPhone 6. I tried doing the explore by touch thing to try 
to get to the fields to fill out to no avail. I have also tried restarting VO 
to get it to refresh its model of the screen, and that did nothing either. How 
can I make this thing let me sign up? Even though their site is still online, I 
have a small suspicion they killed it since the Applevis review was posted last 
year. Are there any similarly priced services with apps that are accessible 
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Re: Headphones that don't block your ears

[Brent Harding]

What's the difference between the older Blues, the newer 2S, and the Trekz 
Titanium?


- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Headphones that don't block your ears


Fair enough, but I'm not prepared to shell out the not inconsiderable 
amount of money the new ones will cost just to find out whether they've 
improved or not.


On 28/11/2015 17:11, Michael Feir wrote:

Aftershokz are addressing the sound leakage and other issues with
their latest headphones. I got in on the Trekz Titanium campaign and
should soon have a pair of those. The Blues 2S headset also
incorporates the sound enhancement and leak prevention improvements. I
believe they're available now. The TRekz Titaniums won't be available
retail for a short while yet.

On 11/28/15, Alex Stone  wrote:

These are also the ones i'm talking about.

On 28/11/2015 16:19, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

There are and one brand that's been talked about on this list is
Aftershokz.

On 29/11/15 04:03, Brian Albriton wrote:

Are that headphones that you can hear without covering your ears and
blocking out other sound? I've heard there are some on this order that
use bone conduction or something like it.


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Re: Problem with Uber

[Brent Harding]

Emailing is probably the best way. I don't think Uber has a lot of control on 
making their support section accessible, as from the address bar, it goes to 
Zendesk, and that company probably has to fix its accessibility issues. The big 
issue, at least with iOS and JFW on that type of site is that most of the combo 
boxes are text that aren't properly classed as combo boxes so on iOS, there 
will be no popup button, and on Windows, alt-down arrow won't open it.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dr. Harshit Jaithwar 
  To: viphone 
  Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 8:03 PM
  Subject: Re: Problem with Uber


  Hi, you can drop an email on


  supp...@uber.com


Hope this helps.



  Sent from my iPhone






  On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:44 AM, SSEric  wrote:

I have an issue with my fair. The trip home from the same place in went was
$10 and 10 miles more

When I follow the link in the E-mail with the trip information, after I sign
in with my user name and password there is an edit field right under my
name. It is not where you put your question. I cannot figure out what it is
for. Have tried on the iPhone and Windows using JAWS and NVDA.

Anyone familiar with their site and know what I am missing!

All thanks.

Eric


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Re: For Those Who May be in the Market for a New Cell Provider in the USA, Sprint Launches LTE+ Service

[Brent Harding]

I think with Sprint and Verizon, it's kind of both. You have the sim for 
data on LTE, but yet you have CDMA for the voice part or for areas that have 
no LTE available. I think the phones can be more easily switched though as 
they have to unlock if you aren't under contract or on an installment plan.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Arrigo" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: For Those Who May be in the Market for a New Cell Provider in 
the USA, Sprint Launches LTE+ Service



I wonder if this service uses a sim ccard or if the serial number for the 
account is stored in the phone itself. I would never want a service that 
does not use a sim card as it does not allow you to easily switch phones on 
the fly.

Original message:

Hello Everyone,



Sprint announced it is launching it's new LTE + 3 band LTE service in 77
markets in the USA.  This also comes with an offer to cut T-Mobile, AT&T 
and

Verizon plan costs in half.


The following is the text to the article the link to which is located at 
the

end of the piece.



Enjoy,



Mark



print today launched its LTE Plus network, which is available today in 77
major markets in the U.S. To celebrate, the carrier is announcing what 
its

calling "the biggest wireless offer in U.S. history", offering 50 percent
off of T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T rate plans. The offer runs from 
November

20 to January 7, 2016 and the pricing remains in place until January 8,
2018.



"We've made tremendous strides with our network because we know consumers
want wireless service that provides consistent speed and reliability," 
said
Marcelo Claure, Sprint CEO. "We are so confident that customers will have 
an

amazing experience that we are encouraging them to give us a try with the
biggest wireless offer in the history of our industry. Customers 
switching

to Sprint will never need to look elsewhere. They will learn what our 58
million customers already know - Sprint offers the best value and an
award-winning network."


T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T customers who want to switch to the network 
will
get Sprint plans that mirror their old plans, only for half the price. 
For
example, a T-Mobile customer with four lines and 10 GB of data per line 
pays
$180 per month at T-Mobile, but will only pay $90 at Sprint. An AT&T 
family

who pays $100 for 15 GB data will get the same thing at Sprint for $50.
Verizon customers paying $80 for 12 GB will get the same for $40. Verizon
and AT&T customers will also get 50 percent off access fees.


The discounts are only available to consumer plans for Verizon's 1 GB, 3 
GB,

6 GB, 12 GB, 18 GB, 20 GB and 25 GB shared data plans, T-Mobile's Simple
Choice 2 GB, 6 GB and 10 GB plans and AT&T's 300 MB, 2 GB, 5 GB, 15 GB, 
20

GB and 25 GB shared data plans. Specific carrier features like unlimited
music and video, data rollover and cloud options do not carryover to 
Sprint.



Customers switching over to Sprint can also take advantage of iPhone
Forever, Sprint's plan that allows customers to upgrade to a new iPhone
every year. It's also a "worry-free" offer, with customers having 28 days 
to
try out Sprint's service. If they're not happy, they can return it 
without

incurring a restocking fee. Sprint will also pay any switching fees up to
$650 per line with an American Express Reward Card after online 
registration

and phone turn-in.



Sprint says its new LTE Plus network is faster than Verizon's and AT&T's
networks, citing Nielsen Mobile Performance data. NMP uses crowdsourced 
data

from Android users in 44 of the largest markets in the U.S., and it found
that in 20 of the 44 markets, users downloading files over 5 MB did it
fastest on Sprint. The carrier says the new network can reach up to 100
Mbps, includes stronger service with an extended 2.5 GHz signal and more
reliable service with three bands of spectrum: 1.9 GHz for broad 
coverage,

800 MHz for indoor coverage and 2.5 GHz for faster speeds.



Current Sprint customers will get a free tablet with one year of free
service while supplies last. Sprint says this offer is a $360 value.



Original Article at:
http://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/18/sprint-lte-plus-50-percent-off-deal/




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Re: For Those Who May be in the Market for a New Cell Provider in the USA, Sprint Launches LTE+ Service

[Brent Harding]

I think they are all unlockable now after the contract or payment plan are 
paid off. I think Verizon is as much CDMA as Sprint is. Sprint is a decent 
value for the money though, at least around here. There are places where it 
doesn't work so well, but that problem probably exists with everyone.


- Original Message - 
From: "Cristóbal" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: For Those Who May be in the Market for a New Cell Provider in 
the USA, Sprint Launches LTE+ Service



One thing  to keep in mind with Sprint is that it's CDMA. Personally, I'm 
never doing another Sprint branded phone. GSM or even a Verizon phone that 
can also be used on GSM networks.


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USA, Sprint Launches LTE+ Service


Hello Everyone,

Sprint announced it is launching it's new LTE + 3 band LTE service in 77
markets in the USA.  This also comes with an offer to cut T-Mobile, AT&T 
and

Verizon plan costs in half.

The following is the text to the article the link to which is located at 
the

end of the piece.

Enjoy,

Mark

print today launched its LTE Plus network, which is available today in 77
major markets in the U.S. To celebrate, the carrier is announcing what its
calling "the biggest wireless offer in U.S. history", offering 50 percent
off of T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T rate plans. The offer runs from November
20 to January 7, 2016 and the pricing remains in place until January 8,
2018.

"We've made tremendous strides with our network because we know consumers
want wireless service that provides consistent speed and reliability," 
said
Marcelo Claure, Sprint CEO. "We are so confident that customers will have 
an

amazing experience that we are encouraging them to give us a try with the
biggest wireless offer in the history of our industry. Customers switching
to Sprint will never need to look elsewhere. They will learn what our 58
million customers already know - Sprint offers the best value and an
award-winning network."

T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T customers who want to switch to the network 
will

get Sprint plans that mirror their old plans, only for half the price. For
example, a T-Mobile customer with four lines and 10 GB of data per line 
pays
$180 per month at T-Mobile, but will only pay $90 at Sprint. An AT&T 
family

who pays $100 for 15 GB data will get the same thing at Sprint for $50.
Verizon customers paying $80 for 12 GB will get the same for $40. Verizon
and AT&T customers will also get 50 percent off access fees.

The discounts are only available to consumer plans for Verizon's 1 GB, 3 
GB,

6 GB, 12 GB, 18 GB, 20 GB and 25 GB shared data plans, T-Mobile's Simple
Choice 2 GB, 6 GB and 10 GB plans and AT&T's 300 MB, 2 GB, 5 GB, 15 GB, 20
GB and 25 GB shared data plans. Specific carrier features like unlimited
music and video, data rollover and cloud options do not carryover to 
Sprint.


Customers switching over to Sprint can also take advantage of iPhone
Forever, Sprint's plan that allows customers to upgrade to a new iPhone
every year. It's also a "worry-free" offer, with customers having 28 days 
to

try out Sprint's service. If they're not happy, they can return it without
incurring a restocking fee. Sprint will also pay any switching fees up to
$650 per line with an American Express Reward Card after online 
registration

and phone turn-in.

Sprint says its new LTE Plus network is faster than Verizon's and AT&T's
networks, citing Nielsen Mobile Performance data. NMP uses crowdsourced 
data

from Android users in 44 of the largest markets in the U.S., and it found
that in 20 of the 44 markets, users downloading files over 5 MB did it
fastest on Sprint. The carrier says the new network can reach up to 100
Mbps, includes stronger service with an extended 2.5 GHz signal and more
reliable service with three bands of spectrum: 1.9 GHz for broad coverage,
800 MHz for indoor coverage and 2.5 GHz for faster speeds.

Current Sprint customers will get a free tablet with one year of free
service while supplies last. Sprint says this offer is a $360 value.

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Re: Temporary fix for netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple TV

[Brent Harding]

I thought the way the previous messages suggested, they are stuck with it 
turned on. I wouldn't see why you couldn't turn it off though, unless that 
disables it again for you as well.


- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Miller" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Temporary fix for netflix audio description on the 4th gen 
apple TV



The fix gives you the ability to select the audio description track as you 
would normally, but it does add it for all the profiles. But like I said, 
each person can choose whether or not they want to listen to the audio 
described track or not.



On Nov 6, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Kerri G  wrote:

I do have an iqnurey though. I share the net fix account with my parents 
who live upstairs in another apartment. If I enable audio description, 
would they be stuck with it or can it be disabled for them but enabled for 
Arlene, my blind room mate and I?



On Nov 4, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:

Wow! This is another feature they have to enable for you on there end 
that we don't get access to? I wonder if it works to play something 
through an iPhone, set the language to description, and then every other 
device on your account should pick that up, unless this only applies to 
that device. I remember all the while through playing their first couple 
offerings, it would disable and hide that option every two or three 
episodes. I hope people wouldn't have to keep calling throughout a binge 
session.


- Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:46 PM
Subject: Temporary fix for netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple 
TV



Hi all,

I’ve seemly stumbled on a temporary fix for apple TV 4th generation 
owners who want audio description on Netflix. It requires that you call 
them and explain the situation, and ask them to enable it for your 
account. I spent about 5 minutes on the phone with them and have it 
running beautifully. All it took on my end was a sign out and sign back 
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Re: Temporary fix for netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple TV

[Brent Harding]

I see. This shouldn't apply to the iOS version of the app. That used to 
redisable it about every 1-3 episodes.
- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Miller" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: Temporary fix for netflix audio description on the 4th gen 
apple TV



Yes, that’s how it’s supposed to work, but since the new apple TV app didn’t 
support it from the start, they’re offering that fix until they get the 
issue resolved.



On Nov 4, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:

Wow! This is another feature they have to enable for you on there end that 
we don't get access to? I wonder if it works to play something through an 
iPhone, set the language to description, and then every other device on 
your account should pick that up, unless this only applies to that device. 
I remember all the while through playing their first couple offerings, it 
would disable and hide that option every two or three episodes. I hope 
people wouldn't have to keep calling throughout a binge session.


- Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:46 PM
Subject: Temporary fix for netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple 
TV



Hi all,

I’ve seemly stumbled on a temporary fix for apple TV 4th generation owners 
who want audio description on Netflix. It requires that you call them and 
explain the situation, and ask them to enable it for your account. I spent 
about 5 minutes on the phone with them and have it running beautifully. 
All it took on my end was a sign out and sign back in, and I was able to 
select the audio description track like normal.


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Re: Temporary fix for netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple TV

[Brent Harding]

Wow! This is another feature they have to enable for you on there end that 
we don't get access to? I wonder if it works to play something through an 
iPhone, set the language to description, and then every other device on your 
account should pick that up, unless this only applies to that device. I 
remember all the while through playing their first couple offerings, it 
would disable and hide that option every two or three episodes. I hope 
people wouldn't have to keep calling throughout a binge session.


- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Miller" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:46 PM
Subject: Temporary fix for netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple TV


Hi all,

I’ve seemly stumbled on a temporary fix for apple TV 4th generation owners 
who want audio description on Netflix. It requires that you call them and 
explain the situation, and ask them to enable it for your account. I spent 
about 5 minutes on the phone with them and have it running beautifully. All 
it took on my end was a sign out and sign back in, and I was able to select 
the audio description track like normal.


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Re: How to deal with call waiting.

[Brent Harding]

Yes, hold and mute are a little harder in that you have to hide the keypad to 
get to those. Even in iOS 8.4 for me, Voiceover goes to the low quality mode on 
my iPhone 6, so that fix must be in a later batch of 6's or something.

  - Original Message - 
  From: joseph hudson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 10:39 PM
  Subject: Re: How to deal with call waiting.


  Hello Matthew, on the iPhone switching causes a breeze. When a call comes in 
obviously you have the hold in except button, you can double tap that and it 
will take you to the next caller. When switching back and forth, if you hide 
the key pad there is a swamp button. He will use this button to go from call to 
call. I hope this works for you.

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On Nov 3, 2015, at 6:36 PM, Matthew Bullis  
wrote:


OK, so I can't test this now, and haven't received a second call on my work 
iPhone to have known how this works, but I thought I'd ask. Since I'm getting 
my personal iPhone, how will I deal with call waiting when the phone is at my 
ear? Must I lower the handset to switch to speaker so the controls are visible? 
Then do I have to flick through, or can I simply two finger double tap to 
switch calls, and again to switch back? Primarily I will be conversing on a 
bluetooth headset, so I may just be able to click a button on that headset to 
accomplish this, but I thought I'd ask now, before the situation comes up. I 
know that if the phone is at your ear and you click the power button the phone 
will hang up, but will this then activate the other call and back again?
Thanks,
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Re: T-Mobile’s network extender lets anyone use your Internet bandwidth

[Brent Harding]

I wonder what the difference is between the previous router and a normal 
wifi router? I suppose TMobile's has some kind of quality of service built 
in to prioritize your connection for calls to go through, where most of the 
modem/gateways I've had only do that by device or wired port.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: T-Mobile’s network extender lets anyone use your Internet 
bandwidth



But the router is different than this new thing that they are just now 
coming out with. At least that was my understanding from everything I've 
read thus far.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 3, 2015, at 6:17 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

I do have a cellSpot router, and it indeed allows for locking down, and 
that is encouraged by t-mobile.


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On Nov 3, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

That's interesting, because this particular publication usually does a 
very good job. And they were going out of their way to say that unlike 
the other companies, this device didn't allow for any sort of security 
via passwords or whatever. These devices are not actually available yet, 
right? So how do you know that it can be locked down?

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 3, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

Seems like a piece where the author didn’t do homework.

You can lock down the service to your own phones if you want or leave it 
open for anyone to use.  There’s no risk in leaving it open other than 
using bandwidth which depends on how much bandwidth you have total 
whether you care or not.  If you lock the device down then it will only 
work on your phones.



On Nov 2, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Here is a little more information on that team mobile device.
Mary
http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/11/t-mobiles-network-extender-lets-anyone-use-your-internet-bandwidth/


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Re: T-Mobile’s network extender lets anyone use your Internet bandwidth

[Brent Harding]

I doubt they charge you for the data connection you basically provide them 
to rebroadcast. As far as I understood it, they are like mini cell towers 
that connect back to the carrier's network over the public internet through 
whatever router you plug it into. I wonder if it would be legal to use 
something like this on the 8th floor of an apartment building that is kind 
of effective at reducing the nice 5-bar signal outside in the fresh air to 1 
or two inside, depending where in the apartment I am. Would I run into 
problems if the neighbors phones use it to get on in the sense that a 
residential person wouldn't normally be pumping 16 calls at a time through, 
or do their phones work off of their accounts and plan with my Internet 
being the transport?
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: T-Mobile’s network extender lets anyone use your Internet 
bandwidth




Hello Mary and list,
I'll just stay with my CellSpot device and not order the Wi-Fi based unit. 
I really don't want others using my data allowances.



Dan


On Nov 2, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Here is a little more information on that team mobile device.
Mary
http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/11/t-mobiles-network-extender-lets-anyone-use-your-internet-bandwidth/


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Re: A Quick Reminder about Visual Voicemail in iOS 9.x

[Brent Harding]

The only useful thing I could think of for this feature might be to email 
myself one I wanted to keep longer.


- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: A Quick Reminder about Visual Voicemail in iOS 9.x


I assume this is the dialog that pops up when you double tap on a share 
button.


On 10/17/2015 12:32 PM, Rose Combs wrote:

OK, what is a share sheet, and how would one access it?


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memory!



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Hello Everyone,

Just a quick reminder that in iOS 9.x, if you have visual voicemail as 
part

of your cell service, you can bring up the share sheet on any voicemail
message.  This is an extremely useful feature.

Mark



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Re: Remote desk top apps?

[Brent Harding]

NVDA and JFW remote desktop support would require those screen readers to 
also be installed on the server as well. Although this would seem like a 
reasonable accomodation for a place to do, since the server doesn't need a 
license separate from the client you access it from, I heard that actually 
getting them to agree and install it is another issue.


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From: "Aman Singer" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: Remote desk top apps?



Hello Kim,

I used, and still use when I can properly hear speech, Jump's remote
desktop app. Their Bluetooth keyboard support is excellent, everything
just works. They do stream audio from the remote machine but you will
have the usual problem with remote desktop apps, the audio streaming
of screen readers is significantly delayed and sometimes breaks up.
That, of course, makes using the PC on the other side of the
connection painfully slow in some cases and absolutely hopeless in
others. If you really want access to your machine remotely, you may
want to try getting a small windows machine and using either NVDA's
remote access add-on or Jaws' remote desktop support.
I hope that's of use.
Aman


On 10/15/15, Kim Samco  wrote:

Hello,

My sighted coworkers use the following apps to access the company 
database
from their iPhones and/or iPads.  These apps are relatively expensive so 
I'd

like to know if they are accessible before I buy.  Anyone have any
experience with any of these?

1.  Jump

2.  Rd client

3.  Tap rdp

Thanks,

Kim

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Re: Subscriptions was Re: TuneIn's $7.99 premium subscription now includes NFL radio feeds

[Brent Harding]

Also, it depends if the subscription is handled by logging in to the account 
online, where it would be tied for all devices, or an in-app purchase that 
is an auto-renewing subscription. If it is paid through Tunein on the web, 
you probably can technically share your login to it, but they probably frown 
on it.


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Subject: Subscriptions was Re: TuneIn's $7.99 premium subscription now 
includes NFL radio feeds



If it's an in-app purchase, no. If it's a purchase in the App Store 
itself, yes. For example me as the organizer and Hannah the adult is 
sharing the Now TV for Apple TV subscription on our Apple TV Third 
Generation devices.


On 12/10/2015 18:10, SSEric wrote:

Can you share your subscription with a family member? I would enjoy the
sports, but someone else in the family would like audio books.


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Re: TuneIn's $7.99 premium subscription now includes NFL radio feeds

[Brent Harding]

Are they restricting it to desktop and tablet only like ESPN tends to do for 
NBA radio coverage? I'm glad I will be able to just buy this and get the 
Packers feed, plus Sunday and Monday night again, as long as I can airplay 
it through my phone.
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Subject: TuneIn's $7.99 premium subscription now includes NFL radio feeds



Thought some might be interested in this.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/12/9500955/tunein-premium-subscription-nfl-radio-feeds



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Re: What Will This Mean For The Voice Dream Products

[Brent Harding]

I wonder if Ivona is shutting down because for a company like Amazon, we 
aren't a big enough market? I heard awhile back that Amazon is who owns 
Ivona now. I'm sure most of the other voice venders like Nuance are in 
plenty of things that aren't blindness or disability specific though.


- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: What Will This Mean For The Voice Dream Products


Agreed. Everyone has their own personal preference. I personally don’t use 
Alex. I just don’t care for it. Some people love the Alex voice and that’s 
totally cool by me. The more the merrier. :) I love to have multiple choices 
for my mood. I also sometimes prefer a different voice or accent depending 
on what I am reading. :) I’m keeping my fingers crossed that we won’t 
completely lose out on the Ivona voices or that someone else will create 
some just as good or better. :)


Christina

On Oct 9, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

Well, Apparently what Richard said, Winston is in the process of bringing 
Alex to VDR. And I don't think you have to worry about there being no 
sales of other voices. Many people don't like how Alex sounds.


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On Oct 9, 2015, at 10:39 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

I sure hope so. I think he's still working on new stuff for Voice Dream 
Reader, like 3d touch and all that. If Alex were for Voice Dream Reader 
though, he may not get sales from many other voices though, lol.


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On Oct 9, 2015, at 1:18 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

I bet if TTS companies wanted to, they could make the same languages 
that ESpeak has. Acapela is slowly getting there, just give it time. But 
I agree 100% with Mary. If I had to listen to a robotic sounding voice 
like E-Speak read a book to me, I'd probably fall asleep before I 
finished the book. But in all honesty, if I had to choose a robotic 
speech engine, give me DECTalk. At least it tries to sound human. 
Speaking of voices though, does anyone know if Winston plans to bring 
Alex to Voice Dream Reader like he did with Writer?


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On Oct 8, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Yes, voices have come along way. That is precisely why I will never 
ever use e-speak. Back in the 1980s, that sounded better than espeak. 
that I know it's a personal preference deal. Bute-speak for reading for 
pleasure? Not in this lifetime.

Mary


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On Oct 8, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Devin Prater  
wrote:


Well, I don't think the Ivona voices were all that good anyways. Just 
my oppinion, but speech synthesis has gone a ways, and has less wildly 
varying entonation. But sure, Voicedream may lose some voices, but 
they still have Acapella Sharan up their sleeve, and could easily add 
eSpeak and other voices to compensate.


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On Oct 7, 2015, at 2:35 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  
wrote:


Hi all. I've tried Ivona's voices for Windows and therefore I'm on 
their newsletter. I just got an email from them. It sounds like they 
might be folding. I'll paste an excerpt of the email below but one 
has to wonder. Will Voice Dream be affected? I don't have any Ivona 
voices, but if I do consider buying them in the future, will I be SOL 
if I don't buy them by December 31?


Dear IVONA Customer,

Please be informed, that starting from 31st of December 2015 IVONA 
will no longer be providing support services for the following 
products for customers:


• IVONA Voices
• IVONA 2 Voices
• IVONA Reader/IVONA MiniReader/IVONA Control Center
• Expressivo
• Accessibility package

This includes recovery of activation keys and installation files as 
well as software updates and customer support from the IVONA support 
team.


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Re: Cooking with terabytes

[Brent Harding]

I remember back when that System Access To Go's speech would say fathoms 
where FM should've been in radio listings. The ones I really found annoying 
were back in school when they used Kurzweil 3000 to try to turn scanned 
books in to audio, hearing web addresses completely pronounced with all 
abbreviations expanded got annoying after awhile, and mangled them often 
enough.


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To: ; 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:49 AM
Subject: Cooking with terabytes


Good old Alex has discovered a new cooking term. Did you know that when 
you're making short ribs in the slow cooker, you need to add one and a half 
terabytes of balsamic vinegar? When, when, will the folks who make the 
speech synthesizers stop trying to guess what abbreviations mean and leave 
it up to us, the human readers with the smarts, to figure it out for 
ourselves?

Mary

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Re: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love

[Brent Harding]

In 8, when I have to copy garbage strings, I have VO speak it and then the 3 
finger quad tap, but you often get extra junk with it as well that you don't 
want in there because it literally copies what VO spoke.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:49 PM
Subject: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love


Have you ever had to copy out one of those long garbage letter number 
passwords and paste it somewhere else? That alone is going to make the text 
selection feature of iOS 9 a huge timesaver for me. Plus, when I have to 
reenter my email address or password, as is so common, presto, copy text. 
Paste done.
The other one I'm going to love is that little back button up in the top 
left of the status line. If you get emails with links, which you follow and 
read the article, then want to go back to mail, how cool is it that you can 
just tap that little button and not have to open the app switcher, find the 
mail app, and return. It's a little thing, but I love it.

Mary

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Re: List of merchants excepting Apple Pay

[Brent Harding]

One start, and the site isn't the most accessible, is the liste Mastercard 
has of merchants who take contactless payments, or pay pass. Apple Pay is 
compatible with that, so it should work at most stores on that list.


- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 10:50 PM
Subject: List of merchants excepting Apple Pay


Does anyone know if there is a place where an up-to-date list of merchants 
who accept Apple Pay can be found? The list of banks and credit unions keeps 
expanding, but I have not seen anything about actual stores where you can 
use the Apple Pay in quite some time.

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Re: A Braille Smart Watch?

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I wonder if it would be able to take calls from an iPhone that is using Wifi 
calling? That is an undocumented limitation of the Apple Watch. It will not 
ring unless your phone is on cellular only when it comes to phone calls. I 
figured that out in the rain at a restaurant trying to find my Uber car that 
the thing rang for the first time.

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  Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 10:30 PM
  Subject: Re: A Braille Smart Watch?


  Hi,

  I do not think it is using Apple watch.  My understanding is that braille 
smartwatch is an arnoid related.

  Just for your information is that the braille smartwatch is not a water 
proof.  That is what the dot incorp has informed to me about it because I have 
already asked about it.

  Hope this help you.

  Scott


  From: Ah rum Choi 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 10:13 PM
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  Cc: richardturne...@outlook.com 
  Subject: Re: A Braille Smart Watch?

  Well, from further research, it can easily be found that the 4 cell display 
is enough. It seems that the braille passes by the finger which we would feel. 
It's like one of those electric signs that have texts moving automatically. I 
would love to give this watch to my blind friend for his birthday, I think he 
will love it. I also found the company very nice, they kindly answered all my 
questions which I sent by email.  

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Re: Switching between carriers with Sprint branded iPhone 5

[Brent Harding]

I think Sprint will only domestically unlock either the 5S and up or the 6 and 
up. The big question will be whether to buy out my lease after it is up or get 
what will probably be the iPhone 7 by then. I thought about switching to 
TMobile at that point, but they're new in my area, and I don't know what their 
coverage is like.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cristóbal 
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 10:43 AM
  Subject: RE: Switching between carriers with Sprint branded iPhone 5


  This is what I’ll probably end up doing when I have a chance to get down to a 
store, but figured I’d ask if anyone’s already been able to do the switch.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
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  Subject: Re: Switching between carriers with Sprint branded iPhone 5

   

  Hi, if I were you, I would go to my local T-Mobile store and have them tested 
out with one of their Sim cards. Hope that helps, good luck.


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  On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:05 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:

Hello list,

So I’ve got a question that hopefully some on this list have had experience 
with and can help me out.

One of my lines is currently using Ting as a Sprint branded iPhone 5. This 
phone is owned by me outright and has been internationally unlocked. I’ve been 
informed that for whatever reason, Sprint phones cannot be domestically 
unlocked.

Anyway, Ting’s been great, but I’ve found that for this particular line, I 
need more minutes and data and T-Mobile in this instance can give me a better 
deal by jumping on a relative’s plan than simply watching my useage with Ting.

I’ve been told that older Sprint branded iPhones such as the 5, 5S/C, 4S, 
etc. aren’t able to make the switch over to the T-Mobile GSM network even 
though the iPhone 5 is both a CDMA and GSM device. 

Some T-Mobile folks over the phone and in the store give conflicting 
information. The Internet can be just as confusing.

I’m planning on grabbing one of the new 6S Plus phones later this year, but 
that is for a different line. 

I don’t want to go through the hassle of trying to obtain an older GSM 
iPhone 5 or 5C or 5S for that matter and then unloading this 5 just to be sure 
that it would work if in fact the one I currently own outright will work 
perfectly fine on T-Mobile’s network.

Has anyone in fact moved their Sprint branded iPhone 5 from Sprint or a 
Sprint MVNO to T-Mobile successfully?

Needless to say, going forward, I’ll be buying GSM phones from now on. 
Especially now that Ting also supports the T-Mobile network, but for now, I’ve 
got this issue with the 5.

 

Thanks,

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Re: My top iOS 9 Bugs

[Brent Harding]

I tested the beta on the old 4S that I don't have active service on. Did they 
fix the bug that would sometimes make streaming audio sound like the chipmunks? 
I was playing Tunein radio on it at the time of that first public beta, and VO 
and everything started playing fast with the high pitch and so did the airplay 
from Tunein. I thought I read on Twitter awhile ago that someone said that 
phone calls would get the chipmunks too.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Cristóbal 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 12:33 PM
  Subject: RE: My top iOS 9 Bugs


  Geez. So I think I’m going to wait for the first 9.x update. Significatn bugs 
for sure. 

   

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Jonathan Mosen
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  Subject: My top iOS 9 Bugs

   

  Hi everyone, now that the NDA is lifted, here are some things I think you 
might like to be aware of in iOS 9.

  I am enthusiastic about iOS 9. It is significantly more responsive than its 
predecessor, and there are many new features that I'm sure you'll enjoy. 
Unfortunately, there are also some VoiceOver bugs in iOS 9 that range from 
minor annoyances to potentially critical, depending on how you use your device 
and whether you find yourself affected. Here are just a few that you might like 
to take into consideration before deciding whether to wait for a bug fix 
release before installing iOS 9. Remember that a few days following iOS 9's 
release, it will not be possible to downgrade again, so you should consider the 
upgrade to iOS 9 a one-way trip, and proceed with caution if anything below 
concerns you.

  1. Audio routing bug. This is potentially the most significant accessibility 
bug I can recall ever to slip through an iOS release, due to the number of 
people who may be affected. Not everyone will be, and at present, even after 
extensive testing with a range of people owning different devices, I have no 
information about why it affects some users, but not others. It is not device 
specific, for example it is happening to me on my iPhone 6 Plus, but I know 
iPhone 6 Plus users where the problem isn't so severe. Nor does it seem to be 
affected by any setting. If you're lucky, it won't happen to you, but the only 
way I am aware of to determine this is to upgrade.

  This bug may affect you when you have earbuds or headphones connected to the 
headphone socket of your iPhone. The primary way the audio routing bug 
manifests itself is when you receive an incoming phone or FaceTime call. You 
can usually hear if you're going to be affected by the bug because your 
ring-tone will fade in and out, rather like the way VOiceOver causes system 
audio to fade in and out when audio ducking is enabled. At this point, if you 
press the power button to silence the ringer and then flick through the screen, 
you will find that not only has VOiceOver become unresponsive, but the entire 
phone has as well.

  If you don't press the power button while the phone is ringing, but instead 
opt to flick through the iPHone's screen to locate the Answer button or review 
caller ID information, VoiceOver may not speak at all.

  Finally, if you attempt to answer the incoming call with a two-finger 
double-tap, you may not be able to, since VoiceOver has effectively locked up.

  The bottom line is that if you have earbuds connected, you may not be able to 
answer a call.

  Some people have also reported similar problems answering calls when their 
phone is set to silent.

  If you rely on your phone for business or safety, this could be a deal 
breaker in terms of upgrading at this point.

  What makes this bug so fascinating is that not only is it completely absent 
for some people, but of those who experience it, not all symptoms are present 
for all users. For example, some people experience the issues I have described 
when they press the power button to mute the ringer, but not when the phone is 
ringing. Others can answer a call by pressing the button on their EarPods, 
while others cannot.

  If you upgrade and are affected by this, here are a few things to try.

  (A) If you have the more moderate version of this bug, avoid pressing the 
power button when you receive an incoming call.

  (B) Turning off audio ducking seems to help a little for some users.

  (C) If you can't answer a call with a two-finger double-tap, try pressing the 
button on your EarPods or similar device if you have such a device connected.

  (D) If all else fails, you can disconnect any device from the headphone jack, 
answer the call with a two-finger double-tap, then reconnect the device to the 
headphone jack.

  (E) Given the critical nature of this bug, if you've upgraded and now find 
yourself afflicted by it, enrol in the iOS beta program so you can receive 
early copies of any fixes Apple is working on. But keep in mind that since

Re: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning connector

[Brent Harding]

Ravpower makes one, and I got that on Amazon. The little cable built in to 
it isn't more than a couple inches long though, but it does exist, and it 
works good.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning 
connector



I expect you're right, Allen, but I can always hope. I just cannot see 
hauling around a long cable and plug in the battery when I'm out and about 
and need to use my phone.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

I suspect finding an external battery with a lightning cable built in is 
going to be a long and fruitless search, especially for a high quality 
product.


Such an external battery would be limited to idevices since the android 
world uses micro USB for charging its products and manufacturers are smart 
enough to build their batteries with both full sized USB and micro USB 
ports so that with the appropriate cables, users of both iOS and android 
devices can use their products. That just makes good economic sense.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 12, 2015, at 4:59 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

There has been a lot of discussion recently on this list about external 
batteries for use with various devices. I would like to find one that has 
a lightning connector built directly into the battery pack. I used to 
have one like that for the old 30 pin connectors. It was a cheap piece of 
junk of course, and I paid the appropriate price. I'm looking for 
something that would be better quality of course, but, I have never seen 
anything like that on say, Amazon. With my for ass and my 5S I have used 
battery cases. But they are quite expensive I think, and what I would 
like to find is a battery pack that I can attach when necessary, and 
detach when not needed. And I don't want to monkey with a cable. If 
you're out and about and you need to attach a battery, you don't need a 
cable. You just need the battery connected to the phone via the 
connector. Does such exist?

Mary

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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

[Brent Harding]

The packers seem to be a hard one to find their feed of. I'd say they have 
pretty good talent on there, and being in Wisconsin, that's the one I would 
want to listen to. I guess Fox or CBS on TV will have to safice because it 
isn't worth $23 a month to subscribe to Sirius just for that. It seems like 
a lot of the rest of their sports are available on Tunein or cheaper 
individual subscriptions like At Bat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.


I guess it depends on which teams you want to listen to. I can usually find
a feed that I can use, even though sometimes it may be the feed of the
opposing team, but considering the level of talent of the average football
radio broadcaster, it doesn't really matter to me.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rich Ring
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my opinion. So
until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to them on the
computer, I suppose.
Hopefully it’ll be added soon.

On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne

On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:

And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the
other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!

On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and 
game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only 
through

the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t 
look

like I am.

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Re: The Future Of Radio Play by Play, was Re: [NFL Game Pass Support #CZZ-614-86691]: Audio pass?

[Brent Harding]

I think baseball always was more strict on making sure the stations didn't 
stream those games except for on the At Bat subscription. I think the radio 
broadcast is here to stay as people listen to the games while driving and can't 
look at the screen.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:44 PM
  Subject: Re: The Future Of Radio Play by Play, was Re: [NFL Game Pass Support 
#CZZ-614-86691]: Audio pass?


  Then i suppose the University of Texas has a lot of money, cuz their audio 
broadcasts are free. lol.
  I do agree though, it’s all a ploy to get more money from customers, but I’m 
happy to pay for the service if it does exactly what it says it does, with 
little or no accessibility, which both the NFL and MLB do.


On Sep 6, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Alan Paganelli  
wrote:


No, they just rolled audio, video, and coaches film all into one package 
and jacked up the price because you can't pick and choose any more what you 
want and don't want. Just another money grab. They've already started blanking 
out the Chicago Cubs broadcasts and you have to get some sort of game pass now 
for that too.  The advertisers paying to get their products in front of your 
ears just wasn't enough for the greedy.  I suspect it won't stop until you have 
to pay to listen to any sports soon and you ain't seen nothin yet because cash 
strapped highschools and colleges will all jump on the band wagon too,



Alan


Sent from my iPad Air

On Sep 6, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:


  I haven't mentioned this before, being that it is a little bit off topic. 
 But I wonder just how much of a future play by play sports on radio really 
has?  The more easily it becomes that people can watch sports on their mobile 
devices, the less appeal radio play buy play will have.  After all, if I could 
see it myself, I would much rather watch it than to have somebody tell me about 
what just happened.  So, I wonder if it simply got to the point that Audio Pass 
had so few subscribers that it became more trouble than it was worth to 
continue it?  I have no proof of this, it is just a thought.

  Arnold Schmidt 
 - Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [NFL Game Pass Support #CZZ-614-86691]: Audio pass?


HM!  What I would of expected from them.  So it'll get swept under 
the rug.  I'm getting the impression the NFL has more money then they know what 
to do with and the needs of the blind are very far down on their list of 
priorities.  They just couldn't leave well enough alone with audio pass.  I 
paid $40 last season for Audio Pass and I didn't even have a problem very much 
if they jacked up the price or even doubled it to $80.  Try buying a ticket to 
any NFL game but it isn't for the faint of heart. LOL!  Do you get the 
impression I'm not happy with the NFL right now?  They have my hundred bucks 
and I still can't listen to games,.



Alan


Sent from my iPad Air

On Sep 6, 2015, at 6:06 AM, Nancy Badger  wrote:


  This is what I got back when I inquired about audio pass. I think it 
would be great if lots of us did this.
  Nancy


  Nancy Badger, Ph.D
  Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
  UT Chattanooga
  Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling 
errors.

  Begin forwarded message:


From: NFL Game Pass Support 
Date: September 6, 2015 at 8:55:52 AM EDT
To: nancybad...@icloud.com
Subject: [NFL Game Pass Support #CZZ-614-86691]: Audio pass?
Reply-To: gamepass.supp...@nfl.com


Nancy Badger,

Thank you for contacting us. This is an automated response 
confirming the receipt of your ticket. One of our agents will get back to you 
as soon as possible. For your records, the details of the ticket are listed 
below. When replying, please make sure that the ticket ID is kept in the 
subject line to ensure that your replies are tracked appropriately.




   Ticket ID: CZZ-614-86691
   Subject: Audio pass?
   Department: NFL Game Pass
   Type: Issue
   Status: Open
   Priority: Normal

Kind regards,


NFL Game Pass Support 




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want to use Wakie app, but accepting calls within it crashes to the home screen

[Brent Harding]

Hi there! I've been trying to use this free, human-powered wakeup service app 
called Wakie. I really like the idea, but I can't accept the calls. It seems 
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Re: I hope the NFL at least does what the MLB does on the Apple TV regarding radio feeds, and maybe even more.

[Brent Harding]

Wow! One has to listen to all the silence before the game? I thought the MLB 
stuff was unable to be fastforwarded.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Minor 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:37 PM
  Subject: I hope the NFL at least does what the MLB does on the Apple TV 
regarding radio feeds, and maybe even more.


  Hi.

   

  I hope the NFL will at least give us the radio feeds of the teams live on the 
Apple TV.  MLB does this.  You don’t get any video, but you can hear the game 
you want with MLB on the Apple TV.  The radio feeds aren’t archived, so you 
have to use the video feeds with MLB.  I think the reason for this is the MLB 
doesn’t clean up the feeds, and the audio feed comes on sometimes as much as 30 
minutes early, and much of this time there’s no audio.  Hopefully the NFL will 
give us radio feeds on the Apple TV, and even better, I hope archived games can 
be heard.

   

  Just some thoughts.

   

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Re: The NFL app is now on the Apple TV, good news and bad news.

[Brent Harding]

I think the NBA is probably the same. Their app wasn't a picnic with iOS 
accessibility either the last time I tried it. Sirius XM is usable in the app 
now, but I'm not sure if the Internet only package will stream any sports.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rich Ring 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: Rich Ring 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:53 AM
  Subject: Re: The NFL app is now on the Apple TV, good news and bad news.


  It’s just a bit ironic that the wealthiest sports league there is has no 
accessible audio!

On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Alan Paganelli  
wrote:


Yeah, I shelled out $99.99 for the NFL access game package and still can't 
listen to games.  I can't figure out what else I have to do and I hate to get 
screwed out of a hundred bucks.



Alan


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On Aug 31, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:


  Kevin, I was able was cited assistance to get the Apple TV and NFL 
connected. Now my question is this. I am of rice is subscriber. When I went to 
play one of the games, I had the option of either going to NFL or purchasing 
through iTunes. Does NFL game pass for the audio portion need to be purchased? 
I'm not certain how all this works. I was able to play highlights, but not the 
actual game. Any help appreciated. Thanks.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 31, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:


Hi.

The app to watch NFL Game Pass is now on the Apple TV.  I’m currently 
watching the Bengals.

I have some bad news about the app.  You have to go to a web site to 
activate it, and you have to enter a code that’s displayed on the Apple TV.  
VoiceOver doesn’t read it.  I was able to read it, and I got it activated, but 
it wasn’t easy.  I’m going to call up the NFL folks to see if there’s another 
way to activate Game Pass.

Just for your information.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY


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Does that change the setting globally for the website or any other apps one 
uses FB in? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeffrey Shockley 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:17 PM
  Subject: Re: facebook not dispalying in date order


  Hi,
  Go to the “More” button, down at the very most bottom right, and double tap 
it. Then, flick right until you find where it says “Most Recent,” and double 
tap that.
  After doing this, the most recent posts will be at the top, and the more you 
scroll down, the older they will get. That’s the only way I know to do sort of 
what you’re asking.
  hope this helps,
  Jeffrey

On Aug 31, 2015, at 9:25 PM, cwc  wrote:


I know that this has been asked before, but I did not see the answer.  When 
I read my news feeds in facebook, I notice that they are not in any particular 
order.  Is there a way to at least get them in date order?



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Re: A Comment on the OverDrive App

[Brent Harding]

You only get to keep them around for so much time, but if you are the kind 
of person who would read a book once and then never again, it's probably for 
you. If nobody is waiting for the book after the expiration, you probably 
can check it out again, or maybe there is a renew function.


- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: A Comment on the OverDrive App


Hello Mary,

I do not know if OverDrive titles are a subset of Audible or not but I don't 
think so.


Regardless, however, unlike the Audible titles, the OverDrive offerings are 
free and that is the proverbial game-changer, as far as I am concerned.


Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten

Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Comment on the OverDrive App

I am curious, regarding the audio overdrive books. I was under the 
impression that they were simply a subset of audible books. Is that right or 
no? I used the textbased part of the overdrive app years ago, and found it 
somewhat difficult and quite crash prone. But I have not used it in a few 
years.

Mary

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2015, at 5:46 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Brent,

I can only speak for the way things work in California.

In California, public library cards are based on the county in which you 
get your membership.


Therefore, if one lives in Los Angeles County, it does not really matter 
whether you belong to the Long Beach Library or the Beverly Hills library 
or the Santa Monica library or the Northridge library as they are all tied 
into the same system being that all of these cities are located in Los 
Angeles County.


Having said that, I belong to the Orange County public library system and 
when I compare the titles of my book selection to that of my friends who 
live in Los Angeles County, I see no difference in the number or variety 
of titles being offered.


Please keep in mind that I am only using OverDrive for audio books.

My opinion is that for the best experience, one should have at least one 
public library membership along with a free OverDrive account.


Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Comment on the OverDrive App

This might be a good excuse to get a library card. Do you find that you 
could get more books than the NLS affiliated library gives with their 
Overdrive program, or is Overdrive the same no matter which library you 
access it through?


- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 3:54 PM
Subject: A Comment on the OverDrive App



Hello,

This weekend, to my dismay, the BARD servers, along with their
associated governmental affiliates, were down.

As an alternative, given that I have a library card with my local
public library, I fired up the OverDrive app on my iPhone.

I was delighted to discover that, for the most part, the app is
VoiceOver accessible.  That is to say, with a little practice, one
can easily discover and subsequently borrow/download audio books in
just a few minutes.

Now keep in mind that I have only used OverDrive in order to
download/borrow audio books, not eBook titles.

I have discovered a great many commercially available audio books,
via OverDrive, that are not currently available via BARD.

I would like to see more automatic VoiceOver feedback added to the
app but given that it is an off-the-shelf mainstream app, I give it a
two-thumbs up.


One aspect of the app that could definitely use some VoiceOver
improvement is the method by which one may immediately return a
borrowed book to the library, before the expiration date.

As a general rule, I would recommend this app to intermediate and
advanced VoiceOver users.

Before installing the app, make sure you are a member of your local
public library for you will need a library ID number and a 4-digit pin.

After installing the app, I suggest that, in addition to using your
library credentials, sign up for a free OverDrive account.  Doing
this will allow you to access books and all associated OverDrive
features via any desktop web browser which some may find more
convenient.

When you get a chance, take it out for a spin.

Enjoy,

Mark

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Re: A Comment on the OverDrive App

[Brent Harding]

This might be a good excuse to get a library card. Do you find that you 
could get more books than the NLS affiliated library gives with their 
Overdrive program, or is Overdrive the same no matter which library you 
access it through?


- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 3:54 PM
Subject: A Comment on the OverDrive App



Hello,

This weekend, to my dismay, the BARD servers, along with their associated
governmental affiliates, were down.

As an alternative, given that I have a library card with my local public
library, I fired up the OverDrive app on my iPhone.

I was delighted to discover that, for the most part, the app is VoiceOver
accessible.  That is to say, with a little practice, one can easily 
discover

and subsequently borrow/download audio books in just a few minutes.

Now keep in mind that I have only used OverDrive in order to 
download/borrow

audio books, not eBook titles.

I have discovered a great many commercially available audio books, via
OverDrive, that are not currently available via BARD.

I would like to see more automatic VoiceOver feedback added to the app but
given that it is an off-the-shelf mainstream app, I give it a two-thumbs 
up.



One aspect of the app that could definitely use some VoiceOver improvement
is the method by which one may immediately return a borrowed book to the
library, before the expiration date.

As a general rule, I would recommend this app to intermediate and advanced
VoiceOver users.

Before installing the app, make sure you are a member of your local public
library for you will need a library ID number and a 4-digit pin.

After installing the app, I suggest that, in addition to using your 
library

credentials, sign up for a free OverDrive account.  Doing this will allow
you to access books and all associated OverDrive features via any desktop
web browser which some may find more convenient.

When you get a chance, take it out for a spin.

Enjoy,

Mark

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Re: Unlocking Iphone 6?

[Brent Harding]

Yep, and if one could have a store that does it, you can show that it has or 
hasn't been done. It is probably better than these sites online.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: Unlocking Iphone 6?


Remember that in 2013, it became illegal, under the DMCA for someone to
unlock their smart phone through a 3rd party. It was still legal to do
this through your carrier though. In 2014 the US administration reversed
this and made it legal for individuals to unlock their own devices. The
Consumer Code for Wireless Service is a voluntary agreement that all of
the major and most other carriers in the US have implemented on
unlocking customers smart phones. I'm not sure if this helps at all, or
if it's just an interesting bit of history at this point.

On 08/30/2015 12:25 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

Hello Sieghard,
I used a third party unlocking service three years ago When I needed to 
unlock my 4S.  The unlocking went as smooth as drinking Water.  At that 
time my carrier refused to unlock it for me.  However, the service I used 
had a physical address in the mall close to where I live.  In fact I went 
to their shop myself and did the transaction in person, not over the phone 
or email.


I think such third party unlocking services would find it hard to cheat, 
because one can always go back to the store and demand refund or 
demonstration that the unlocking indeed took place.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unlocking Iphone 6?

Hi Cris,

Do not use a third-party service, there are lot of scammers out there and 
you should always unlock through your carrier.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cris Ali

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unlocking Iphone 6?

How did you unlock your iPhone?  Did you go through AT&T or whatever 
carrier you have,  or did you use a third party unlocking service?  I need 
to unlock a phone before I go overseas, because I can't afford 
international roaming.  I prefer to buy and use a local sim card with a 
local number overseas.


Cheers,

Cris

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve Vandecar

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 5:53 PM
To: IPhone List List 
Subject: Unlocking Iphone 6?

Hello,

I just unlocked my Iphone 6AT&T or think I did anyways.  Now how do I tell 
if I really did?


Thanks
Steve



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Re: Unlocking Iphone 6?

[Brent Harding]

I heard some of them may work for AT&T or TMobile, but as of the last time I 
searched, Sprint wouldn't unlock the domestic sim use period on old phones 
like the iPhone 4S, so third parties couldn't either unless someone truely 
had some pull with Sprint who could submit such a request to Apple to have 
done. I was checking in to it to make my old 4S more valuable to sell but I 
figured I would probably get scammed and not end up getting it successfully 
unlocked.


- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 6:25 AM
Subject: RE: Unlocking Iphone 6?


Hi Cris,

Do not use a third-party service, there are lot of scammers out there and 
you should always unlock through your carrier.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cris Ali

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unlocking Iphone 6?

How did you unlock your iPhone?  Did you go through AT&T or whatever carrier 
you have,  or did you use a third party unlocking service?  I need to unlock 
a phone before I go overseas, because I can't afford international roaming. 
I prefer to buy and use a local sim card with a local number overseas.


Cheers,

Cris

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve Vandecar

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 5:53 PM
To: IPhone List List 
Subject: Unlocking Iphone 6?

Hello,

I just unlocked my Iphone 6AT&T or think I did anyways.  Now how do I tell 
if I really did?


Thanks
Steve

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Re: New iPhones

[Brent Harding]

I always thought that most of what 64-bit did was to lift the limit on a 
system to only have 4 gb of ram usable. I don't think most phones are 
approaching that yet. I think Apple could've chosen this route to 
differentiate themself from others, and for other kinds of features they 
were able to have in these new processors that do increase speed, but 64-bit 
kind of comes along with it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: New iPhones


I wonder what the poor little 32-bit processor did to you to make you
wish for it's demise so much. For me, it was a great little processor in
it's day, and I still use it on my iPhone 4S. My understanding is that
IOS 9 will still support the iPhone 4S and the 32-bit processor. I
figured Apple would move on from the 32-bit processor entirely some day,
but I'm not so sure it wouldn't have been a good business model for
Apple to keep it around and compete in the lower end smart phone market.
I kind of wondered if Apple was going this direction when they re
factored IOS to perform better on low end devices. I guess that was just
done for the Apple Watch. Hmm, I wonder what processor the Apple Watch
is running? Either way, the 32-bit processor did nothing but good things
for me, so I'm not doing a little happy dance because it's going away.

On 08/28/2015 02:02 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Hi all
If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the 
discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant 
year for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit. 
Theoretically, this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is 
concerned. To my knowledge, 32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range 
as even the new iPod Touch is now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit! 
RIP.




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Re: using knfb reader version 2 with the Fopydo stand

[Brent Harding]

Has anyone tried e-depositing checks by using one of the stands with a banking 
app? Thankfully, I don't get checks very often to justify the hastle of 
switching banks to one with branches here. I've tried the desktop scanner 
method and uploaded the front and back jpeg's, but those reject with a generic 
error, and the bank can't see what happened, but the very same checks took when 
I got sighted help to fiddle with the photography. If the iPhone stand isn't 
the best way to do a capture like this, what scanner that is physically small 
in size would give me what the bank's systems want to see to be able to revisit 
the scan and upload files method? My dad was unable to see why the scanned 
version shouldn't have taken, so it is likely some minor detail that the iPhone 
camera is able to overcome.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 10:02 PM
  Subject: RE: using knfb reader version 2 with the Fopydo stand


  Yes, it works great!

  I did about 40 pages of a book just to test out the document stand feature 
and while I had to make a couple tries to get it going, once I did it in the 
order suggested in the user guide, it worked perfectly.

   

  Richard

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:56 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: using knfb reader version 2 with the Fopydo stand

   

  Is anyone using knfb reader version 2 stand mode with the Fopydo stand.  Is 
it working?

   

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