Re: Google Hangouts
Until the Feb 27 update, hangouts worked on IOS reasonably well with just a few unlabeled buttons. After the update, voiceover usually reads absolutely nothing on the screen in hangouts. They really did a complete job in locking out voiceover users. Thankfully it still works well on the Android side, but is the same inconsiderate upgrade programming coming there too? Is the same problem going to make its way to maps and gmail on IOS? I do hope not to the last two questions. I was hoping that we atleast remained on their radar and it was like they were doing a reasonable job for a while. Now it feels like the big middle finger and the we don't care attitude. Yeah google worshipersk, your god might not love you back so much. On 3/5/14, Eric Whitten whitten.e...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Google hang outs does not work on IOS devices very well unfortunately. I use a nexus 7. I am sure you will have a better time using it on that device. On Mar 4, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Angus MacKinnon thedog...@gmail.com wrote: My iPhone 5S will not read Google Hangouts. I would like to use Google Hangouts to make an International call. Is their a way to make the iPhone 5S read Google Hangouts? I have Google Wallet setup with a balance to make calls with Google Hangouts. Angus MacKinnon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: what is the best sounding most accessible blue tooth speaker I can get as well as a good keyboard
For sound quality at a good price and portable, I like the JBL flip. I don't like that it doesn't charge by usb though. The UE Mini Boom is nice in every way, but doesn't sound as good as the JBL flip though. On 3/2/14, Danney Yates dwyate...@charter.net wrote: I agree regarding the anker keyboard. It is sturdy and seems to be working better than the Amazon basics keyboard that I previously had. Danny Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Another good Bluetooth keyboard is the Anker Mini keyboard. It costs around the same and feels even more sturdy than the Amazon Basics. -- Raul A. Gallegos I've come to the solution that I do in fact have a sixth sense, I see dumb people. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 2/20/2014 2:30 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I can't suggest speakers but as far as keyboards the amazon basics is nice and not to expensive. On 2/19/14, Jeff Samco jsa...@jps.net wrote: Hi, Dana, I purchased a SoundBrick made by Urge Basics. On Amazon it is highly reviewed and many compared it to the quality of the small Jam Box. I have never heard the Jam Box but do enjoy the quality of this speaker's sound. It lists a battery life of 80 hours. The unit feels very solid and pairs easily with my iPhone and another auxiliary BlueTooth transmitter. The speaker lists for something like $75 but I regularly see it discounted from various vendors to the $35 to $40 range, which is what I paid for it. I see it currently on Amazon for $41.99 at: http://www.amazon.com/Basics-UG-SNDBRCKBLK-Soundbrick-Portable-Bluetooth/dp/B00BC36BW0 HTH, Jeff At 07:52 AM 2/19/2014, you wrote: i would suggest the jam box, made by jawbone, from amazon, the big one is the best, Carol On 14 Feb 2014, at 20:27, Dana danano...@comcast.net wrote: Any suggestions on what you would recommend. I just bought my first I phone 5S and I am looking for a really good blue tooth keyboard and blue tooth speaker that are easy to use and economical. Thanks Dana Skype and twitter ID's both the same djkitty73 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing
Re: Updating IOS
From what I have ever seen the update server will only ever offer you the latest update. When 7.1 comes out, there will be virtually no way to get 7.04 even if you wanted to. On 11/22/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure I've ever skipped an update, but my understanding is that Apple's fixes are cumulative, so you should be able to go from IOS 7.0.3 directly to IOS 7.1, without having to go through 7.0.4 on the way. Of course, there's always a chance there's a bug in the update/install code, but these are usually caught before anything leaves Apple, since a bug that keeps someone from updating their device would be pretty catastrophic. I don't recall hearing anyone running into a new bug in IOS 7.0.4, but since I had no trouble with it, I didn't really pay too much attention to any of those reports on list. I wouldn't hesitate to move up to a dot release in IOS myself, but unless you're having trouble with Facetime, I guess there's no reason you can't wait to upgrade to 7.1, which from what I hear is in beta now. On 11/22/2013 07:17 PM, Lee Jones wrote: Dear List if I don’t update to Ios 7.04and wait for the next more substantial update given that it doesn’t seem to have any accessibility fixes, and then update to 7.1 or whatever,will I have to do0.4 before 1 or will it automatically take me up to date in one go? Since the update became available my phone has started crashing which it wasn’t doing previously. When I updated to 0.3 voice over started talking in a compact german voice although I left it and it went back to normal. I am not sure whether to update or not. If they had solved the volume rotor issue then I definitely would have,but they didn’t and some people on list even reported that 0.4 introduced new bugs rather than solving old ones. Many Thanks, Lee *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Esther *Sent:* 22 November 2013 21:03 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Instabrowser iOS app is free (November 22, 2013) Hi All, Instabrowser, the iOS web browser app, is free today. It normally lists for $2.99. This app was one of the AppleVis pick of the month iOS apps for August. For those of you who use Instapaper or Readability, or make use of the Safari Reader function that was inspired by Instapaper's simpler and more accessible rendering of web pages (leaving out extraneous images, links, etc.), Instabrowser aims to use a similar display directly in an iPhone browser as a way of speeding up display of web pages, especially on slow connections, and reducing cell phone data usage. As an aside, this often improves the accessibility and quality of the reading experience. Just as Safari Reader doesn't work for all web pages, Instabrowser may not be able to improve the readability of all complex web pages. This app is deisgned for iPhone or iPod Touch, but can be used on an iPad in 2x mode. • Instabrowser (free for short time, normally $2.99) by Red Mage https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/instabrowser/id527221992?mt=8 Here's the link to the AppleVis entry: http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/instabrowser This was also the subject of a Tech Doctor podcast earlier this year, Instabrowser faster than Safari: http://www.dr-carter.com/?p=246 The Tech Doctor Blog and Podcast contains show notes, but the direct link to the podcast is: http://dr-carter.com/podcasts/20130720.mp3 I'm posting this late, since this went up yesterday.and a check of Twitter shows this is only free for 24 hours. So grab this now. Cheers, Esther -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe
Re: 7.0.4 shut off or reboot
No, it sounds like David said, that you may want to do a restore. On 11/22/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: No, I have not experienced what you describe. If you have a computer with iTunes, I would connect your phone to your computer, run iTunes, and do a repair of your iOS. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 23 Nov 2013, at 16:34, Amy pinkfloridasunr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, Since updating to iOS 7.0.4, I have experienced my phone turning itself off in the middle of use a couple of times. And now I have also experienced it randomly crashing, where it goes to the Apple booting screen. I am particularly concerned about it randomly turning off, and not turning back on right away. Makes me feel like it is a bit unreliable. Has anyone else experienced anything like this with the latest version of iOS seven or any version? Thanks, Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Problem when answering call: speaker activated
I think the only real problem here is if it won't reliably switch to what you are trying to switch it to and stay there until you switch to the other. Beyond that concern, the problem depends on how you like to use your phone. Personally, I wish we could get it to go to speaker phone, even when initiating a call, until I desire to swtch it to the ear piece. People site it as part of the problem that it going to the speaker first, and that is really only part of the issue if that is not your preference. On my 5S phone calls and the speaker and switching is working perfectly. I restored from a backup when setting it up. I have a 5 that when on a call the prox sensor refuses to do a thing for about the first 3 to 5 minutes of the call and then all of a sudden it kicks in, even though I am talking on speaker and forces it to the ear piece until I use the on screen controls to force it back. At the beginning of the call it goes to the ear piece initially, and will not react to the sensor and I have to use the on screen controls to get it to speaker. While initially on the ear piece, the screen does not go inactive even if I hold it to my ear. Simply, the sensor will not work until about 5 minutes into a call on that phone. I tried an entire new setup on it and did not restore from any backup. I tried resetting network settings. I just mention it as an example. Luckily I don't care about this device any more anyway. On 10/19/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Fanus, No real solution except using a headset. Before I had my 5S I usually picked up the call with a 2-finger double tap and it usually went to speakerphone. I would say Hello and just a sec, then I'd wait a couple of seconds and put my phone to the ear and it would usually be OK. The good thing is that if you sell the phone to a non Voiceover user this problem does not exist because there is no automatic switching. On my 5S this problem is completely gone. I was still on Apple Care and since on my 4S it seemed to get worse and on a few calls it wouldn't switch to the earpiece at all even if I repeatedly put my hand over the earpiece or moved my phone to my ear and away I called Apple, explained the problem and they sent me a new 4S. Since it's an unlocked 64 Gb I at least now can probably get $80 or $100 more than I would have gotten for my 2 year old 4S, typical great service and I think Apple is even more inclined to do this for people who buy at full price directly from them and have Apple Care because I doubt they make quite as much money if they sell phones to big carriers who probably get a discount. Of course I don't know if my new 4S has the same problem since I am not even going to touch it, it goes into the original case I still have along with the original, still wrapped headset and a bunch of extra accessories and I won't even set it up. I can truly say I am selling a new unlocked 4S 64 Gb except that it won't have warranty. Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 11:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Problem when answering call: speaker activated Hello List Has anyone found a solution on the 4S for the problem that the speaker comes on when one answers a call and the caller then thinks that the call was cut. This is very frustrating. I did a reset with the home and sleep buttons and I even dit a reset with the option in settings but the problem is not solved. I would like to sell my 4S to get the 5S but I'll have to tell potential buyers of this problem and no one would probably purchase it if such a problem exists. Regards Fanus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing
Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
I agree with this. Yes there are some bugs, yes there have been bugs in every new version. I have been running IOS 7 since release date, intentionally ignoring the list so as not to hear just on and on about how terrible it is. My own experience has been that it has been like other early versions of major updates and maybe better than some. I believe that ever time we go around this same circle, the same thing happens. People react to perception. There are lots of people that will say a lot about how terrible it is and they don't even know why. They will keep putting messages out there about how they won't upgrade because it is full of bugs and they don't even know specifically what the bugs are or what it is they are avoiding. In the end it is better most of the time to learn to work around the bugs than try to avoid a version. Apple does not allow you to fully implement your own version control. If you have to do a restore, if you have to get your device fixed or trouble shoot with someone at the Apple store or tech support on the phone, guess what, likely there is a restore to the latest version in their near future. If they have to have their device replaced... The same thing. Then guess what. They will be working around the issues that exist or putting their device away somewhere or selling it! On 9/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Mary and others, I didn't even know about the claim you can't edit first and last name. So, I just tried it and yes, it appears that once I double tap on First or Last Name, I can't flick up and down with rotor set to characters and review the name. However, I just tried the Delete key and I could delete the name without any difficulties and type it in again. I would also classify this as extremely low on the list of important bugs because once you have a contact added, how often do you have to actually go in and edit the first and last name. I am not saying it shouldn't be fixed, but it's certainly not a dealbreaker. As far as all of the other issues, well, I don't want to sound smug or condescending, but I have been running iOS 7 since Beta 5 in mid August and first of all I don't think there are any more bugs than there were when iOS 5 or iOS 6 was released. Second, a fair number of the things people report I for one either can't reproduce or if I can I can easily find a work-around. Lastly, if as Raul also pointed out, people on here read the messages and followed the advice many of us are giving, list traffic would I think be at least 30% or more lower. I don't know how often I have seen messages about where the Delete button on the Phone keypad has gone or how can I get rid of the extra characters popping up on the keyboard if I hold my finger on a letter too long. I could come up with numerous other examples and if somebody took the time to condense these thousands of messages since the iOS 7 update into a list of actual bugs along with any potential work-arounds I still hold that iOS 7 is probably the update with the least problems and the best new feature set. Another huge chunk of messages deals with complaints about how the old notification center was better than the new, how people don't like or do like the new app switcher and stuff like that. Maybe you wonder what that has to do with the fact that many on the list feel iOS 7 is a complete let down by Apple and a huge step backward in accessibility. What I think it has to do with that is perception. People are overwhelmed with hundreds of messages each day, many are complaints about 2 or 3 things or repeats about a few bugs. One person posted that he better wait with the upgrade because such a huge jump in list traffic can only mean there are lots of problems. If you go back, however, and look at list traffic right after the iOS 4, 5 and 6 update there was just such a spike. For iOS 4 and 5 it may have seemed less because there were way less people on the list at that point. In short I feel that there is absolutely no reason why somebody who has an iPhone 4, 4S or 5 shouldn't upgrade. Yes, I know people say iOS 7 is sluggish on the iPhone 4 and even the 4S, a few even say this about the 5. I do have a 4S right now and I don't see it, maybe when you open an app for the first time it takes a second or 2 longer, but when I navigate my phone, type or activate buttons and items like an alert in the Notification Center my 4S does things just as snappily as before. I also heard from enough people who have the iPhone 4 that iOS 7 performs very well, so I conclude that if somebody has issues it's maybe because they upgraded without bothering to empty the app switcher and do a restart and things are just bogged down. It should be fairly common sense that one should not perform any major updates without doing a backup first and then making sure to close out open apps. If I install the monthly Windows updates I don't do so while I have 6
Does anyone know the contact email for TuneIn radio support? Web form not accessible enough
Hi, I am trying to write to TuneIn radio support about the issue that the search results are not visable to voiceover at all. I have tried their web contact form and neither WindowEyes nor system access will let me submit it. It comes up with some error that you have to fully fill out the field, it looks like the one where you are selecting that you are talking about the mobile version, etc. I think there may be a sub selection that the screen reader won't see. I really hope they will fix that voiceover won't read the search results. Looks like it should be a simple fix if they just understand and do it. They may or they may say otherwise. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: any one know what time on sept 18 we can download ios7?
I can certainly relate and understand wondering the time, but I really think the time it is released and the time and maybe the different day you can really accomplish the download and installation may be much different! My gut feeling tells me this one will be bad in terms of servers jammed and brought down, bad in terms of bugs in the initial versions, a real trial all the way around. On 9/17/13, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote: I know it was just a curiousity question only no worries I can wait its all good. On 9/17/2013 8:58 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: It will be ready when it's ready, and not a second sooner. Sorry if that sounds flippant, but seriously, be patient, and it will come out if the world doesn't end. And if it does, it will still come out. This is Apple of course. In the past I've seen upgrades being made around 10 AM Pacific time. -- Raul A. Gallegos What did the scientist say when he found 2 isotopes of Helium? HeHe. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 9/17/2013 9:34 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote: the subject line explains it all, any one know? Hank -- website: www.solavei.com/hanksmith email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net skype: hank.smith966 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Cnn application
I think you can still get to it in TuneIn radio. I have listened to it there before. They have in recent time lost the ability to broadcast certain streams though. I haven't pulled this one up in a while. On 4/18/13, Tom Moore tommym2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, A while ago I use to listen to the live cnn stream on my phone and it seems as iff the accessibility of the Cnn app has gone to crap. Any work arounds for getting the live tv feed again? Thanks, Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Screen Curtain a battery saver, but effective?
I was under the impression that what it does is set the brightness to 0. This would be the simplest implementation as well if this is the case. Setting colors the same would take possibly more programming considerations. I'm not entirely sure how it works now, but the brightness to 0 makes sense and that is what I previously heard it does. On 4/9/13, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Christopher, what you are saying makes sense. The screen must be on in some way in order to use gestures. I know a couple people who have developed apps. I'll run this by them. That doesn't mean they are experts on screen curtain necessarily, but they might know a bit about it. It does no harm to ask. Thanks for your thoughts. Neal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen Curtain a battery saver, but effective? What you're saying makes sense if the screen is actually turned off when the screen curtain is on and requires less power than when the screen curtain is turned off. I've heard though, that the privacy of the screen curtain is handled by setting the background and the foreground colors to be the same. I don't know how it really works, but if this were the case, you would not see any battery savings. This is different then say my laptop running Ubuntu where I can physically turn the monitor off and no power at all is being sent to the monitor. Given that the screen on the iPhone is also a touch screen, they obviously can't kill all power to it. I run the screen curtain for privacy purposes. If it saves me battery power then that's great. If people find that running with the screen curtain on saves them some battery power then they should use the screen curtain. As I said, I haven't noticed a big difference myself, but I go ahead and run with the screen curtain on anyway. On 04/09/2013 06:11 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: While not having done as much extensive research as Neil, grin, my brother, who is sighted, says that the screen curtain effectively shuts off the display, while still making it sensitive to touch, so, the less amount of light being emitted by the cell phone only stands to reason that it would save battery life. Having said that, it's been my experience that my battery drops more quickly when my screen curtain is off doing the exact same thing, as when the screen curtain is on, so I guess in this respect, the research I did was experiential. Smiles. One can even take this a bit further using a laptop as an effective means of understanding the concept. If one puts a laptop side to side with a screen-less note taker, one finds that the note taker uses up it's battery life a great deal longer than the laptop. Even if using a laptop compared to a netbook, especially those utilizing a solid state hard drive, the smaller screen means less in the way of power needed to form the picture on the screen, especially comparing the 17 inch screen laptop to the minute 7 to 11 inch netbook screens. In conclusion, the less power you need to run something, the more battery life you'll save. At least that's been my experience. Victor Gouveia Vice-President Training Coordinator VIP Tech Tel: 1-(888)-737-1115 Fax: 1-(888)-737-1116 vipt...@rogers.com mailto:vipt...@rogers.com victor.gouv...@rogers.com mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
Re: Voice-guided Instructions with Google Maps 1.16
It sounds like the most likely answer that it requires tapping a button no longer seen by voiceover. Hopefully that's not the case. Just because it does not speak something at all for us unfortunately doesn't mean it is not there. On 4/8/13, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Christopher, in the long run, a badly-chosen label name is a minor accessibility issue; but if it prevents one from investigating further, it can potentially be a show-stopper. Not everyone is of an experimental nature. Having said that, I add that you and I agree that Google Maps is worth pursuing as a possible workable app. Over the next few days, I'll try to get an answer to my question about how voice-guided directions can be resurrected in the latest version. Craig On 4/8/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: True, I did think the icon labels in Google Maps was particularly cryptic, but I frequently find a one word label for an icon to be mysterious, and I need to do a bit of exploring to figure out what each icon and button really leads to. Ditto for icons used by the sighted. When asking a sighted friend or relative what a particular icon does, I'll hear things like it looks like a little flower or it's a square with an equals sign in the middle. Considering the different hurdles I face for accessibility the poor choice of a word or phrase for an icon label seems like a pretty minor accessibility issue. On 04/08/2013 05:11 PM, Craig Werner wrote: Hello, Christopher. I haven't played with GoogleMaps in a while, but when I first downloded V. 1.0, I was struck by the unhelpful labels attached to buttons. The button now labeled views in the latest version was called Layers entrypoints in V. 1.0. The phrase layers entrypoints meant nothing to me. The button turned out to be a way to access satellite, traffic, and transit views. I recently showed Google Maps to a sighted user, and he noted the cryptic little icons next to buttons. In other words, the interface wasn't intuitive to him. At any rate, I agree with you entirely when you say a product is worth courting even if it is not workable out of the box. Craig On 4/8/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious why you refer to Google Map's questionable accessibility record. I haven't used it in a while, so I can't answer your question, but I downloaded it when it first came out, and I didn't have a problem with it's accessibility, so although something may have changed recently, it's been accessible since the get go. Also, the reason to keep trying it is because it may end up being a superior product. The iPhone itself wasn't accessible when it first came out but people didn't give up on it. On 04/08/2013 12:45 PM, Craig Werner wrote: Greetings to the list. I don't know why I bother playing with Google Maps considering its questionable accessibility record, but I'm still curious about making this app work. When I upgraded to V. 1.16, I noticed the Action Results button seems to have been removed. I cannot figure out how to make the app speak voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I can plug in a starting point and a destination address, and I can call up a map if I press the Paging Footer button; but I can't enable voice-guided instructions. Any thoughts, please? BTW, Action Results and Paging Footer are cryptic labels to say the least. Craig -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message
Re: What are the pros and cons of using Fleksy?
I am not solidly in one camp or the other. I use fleksy sometimes and think it is a good app that adds value some times. I want to address the question why you have to guess in the first place. I think that someone asking this question is not quite getting the point. When you type on the normal on screen keyboard you are also initially guessing where the correct letter is as well. Then you hear if you were correct or not. That is unless you always start at the same point and start sliding your finger until you get the correct key. That may be inefficient. So assuming you place your finger on the regular keyboard where yo think the letter is that you want to enter and then adjust for any error you have made once you get the feedback of what you actually touched, with fleksy you also start by guessing, just like described above with the regular keyboard, accept with fleksy you can be incorrect and still get the correct result of the word you wanted in the end or the correct result being offered to you as one of the possible choices. So if you wanted to type the word good, you could in reality have touched the letters f p p s and still end up with good. On 3/7/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I think the question is more of why should one have to guess in the first place. There is already a vurtual keyboard. - Original Message - From: Maria Joe Chapman To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:51 PM Subject: Re: What are the pros and cons of using Fleksy? HI. I was just curious. After typing with a virtual keyboard for a while I found that I could pretty much guess where the letters were. Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 08/03/2013, at 9:44 AM, matthew Dyer matthew.dye...@earthlink.net wrote: I just feel that I can type faster on it. I can not seem to grasp the hole idea of having to guess whare I think the letters are. Just my thoughts. Matrthew On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Maria Joe Chapman wrote: HI. Just curious, why would you prefer the standard keyboard to fleksy/ God Bless! Maria from australia Newbie mac user. bubbygirl1...@gmail.com will get you fb as well as email iMessage. skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 08/03/2013, at 6:50 AM, matthew Dyer matthew.dye...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi all, I just happen to grab this app and am still playing with it. I think I like using the standered keyboard better. Just my thoughts. Matthew On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Chris H wrote: Hello all yes I love Fleksy a lot and use it for both short and long messages. A tip: you can send e-mail directly via Fleksy by going into the menu and by choosing e-mail. Also if you have e-mail addresses in your favourites you can double tap on a send to menu item and it's just a case of double tapping on send. Another tip type the subject followed by a new line followed by your message. This tells Fleksy the first line is the subject of the e-mail and to treat the rest as the body. Happy typing! Chris. Christopher Hallsworth On 07/03/2013 03:03, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hello there. In addition to what Richard and Chuck have already said, this app was featured in a CNN article listing some of the 20 most best apps of late. This tells me that the app is getting some notice by a lot of sighted people as well. One thing which is really good about the app is that as long as you have an idea of where the letters are, you do not need to be 100% accurate. This reminds me of the predictive texting that many nonsmart phones like some from Nokia phones have. Some people would have said the price was a con because it was rather high. However the app is now free so that should not be an issue. In my specific case, it has not increased my typing by 50% like it has with other people. This is because I already typed rather fast on the iPhone due to the tactile dots from the screen protector I have on it. However it has helped increase my typing a little. If I am going to write a rather long email such as this one, I will probably use Fleksy or I will dictate. I f I am going to write a short email or just send texts, I will usually not use it because of how fast I already type. It would not be more efficient using the app and then copying the text and then pasting it into an email. So, in my case I use it some of the time but not all of the time. I know this does not directly answer your question on the good and bad of this app. However I am hoping that may be based on my experience with it, along with the experience of other
Re: What's going on with the app Store?
I have had this happen many different times for quite a long time now. Normally taking the app store out of the app switcher and reopening it normally brings back the update screen showing what it should. From what you all say, that is not exactly what fixes it though. It has happened on different devices, different versions of IOS, different times and maybe other differences from one time to another. What I wonder is if sighted users get the blank update screen as well. Actually I think they probably do becaue it appears when this happens that the screen is actually visually just as blank as voiceover reports. Yes the tabs are still there just as it reports and some stuff at the top of the screen in the same manner. Luckily I don't think this is our issue exclusively. On 3/7/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, it seems to be happening to more people than just you. I had to reschedule a training with a client because of it. -- Raul A. Gallegos If you Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 3/7/2013 12:47 PM, Sandra Heaton wrote: O lord, I wonder what my problem is? does anyone have any idea then? Take care and any help would be appreciated thanks. I have tried rebooting the phone just switching off and switching it back on again as I very rarely turn my phone off these days. thanks. Sandra Braille Greeting Cards www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk http://www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk - Original Message - *From:* Eileens Misrahi mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 07, 2013 3:55 PM *Subject:* Re: What's going on with the app Store? Hi Sandy, I just checked my updates in the app store. I do not have any problems accessing my updates with VO. All the updates read just fine. HTH. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Sandra Heaton san...@sandras-place.co.uk mailto:san...@sandras-place.co.uk wrote: Hi All, can anyone tell me what's going on with the app Store? it told me I had updates 5 items so it said, but when I go in to the app store, I can't find anything or voiceover is not recognising them. Has anyone else got this problem? Sandra Braille Greeting Cards www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk http://www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: Facebook app on iPhone 4 s
And there is one of the big reasons I am not on FB. They have had a long, long history of little or no accessibility followed by improvements at times only to go back to it being seriously broken yet again. I can't wait til facebook finally dies! Yes it will be followed by something else, it will be something else that will mostly cause it to finally go away, but facebook and their attitudes about and disrespect for privacy, their lack of commitment to accessibility and the general obsession the media has had with facebook just have to go in my opinion. On 3/4/13, SoonerAnnie sooneran...@att.net wrote: Got bad news for you. Therein lies the problem...the latest FB update sucks! It doesn't work well with VO at all! SMH! - Original Message - From: denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 7:40 PM Subject: Facebook app on iPhone 4 s Hello all, I was using the iphone keyboard to type a message for posting on the native facebook app. I noticed that with every keystroke, the phone made a sound like it makes when you swipe up or down and nothing happens. I do not know the reason for this sound as I am in the edit field entering text. I have the latest update to the operating system and to facebook itself. Can anyone help? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What apps do people use when on busses
I use spotify to listen to music instead! No, just kidding. I couldn't resist. I have tried most of the apps mentioned in this thread and just got Blind Square yesterday. I look forward to using Blind Square as personally I find the upcoming street information to be the most useful along with the address range and Blind Square does both. Plus it can be run in the backround along with something else as I might find useful. On 3/5/13, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote: I can’t find Get Off Now. When I search on that, I get no results found. Andy From: Brett Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What apps do people use when on busses Hi, Are you still full version. I bought it over 12 months ago. I think the light version limits you to 3 or four points of interest. Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone On 04/03/2013, at 6:56 AM, Aaron Linson blindgeek1...@gmail.com wrote: do you use get off now lite that's the only version I can find Aaron Linson IOS App Accessibility Advocate Once an Eagle Always an Eagle On Mar 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: I either use BlindSquare, or get off now depending on how much information I want at the time. Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone On 03/03/2013, at 3:24 PM, Aaron Linson blindgeek1...@gmail.com wrote: What apps do people use when riding on public transit? Aaron Linson IOS App Accessibility Advocate Once an Eagle Always an Eagle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you
Re: Facebook app on iPhone 4 s
It may be how the app works, but also indicates that the app is not accessible to the extent that it should be. What that is indicating is that voiceover is not really recognizing the field you are typing into as an edit field. When this happens, usually you can not interact with the edit field fully as you can with an edit field that Voiceover recognizes properly as what it is. I suspect it means the developer needs to do something to tag the field in a way that voiceover is told about the edit field. It is just like the Ever note app when you are typing in the body of a note. It does the same thing you are describing. You can not navigate through the edit field with voiceover gestures, you can not delete and have it speak the character that was deleted and you can not select the text in the field, or copy or paste within the field. This is where I do not have a complete technical understanding of what exactly is involved, but I suspect from what I have heard that this is likely a simple fix by adding some tag attribute to the field by the developer. On 3/5/13, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote: Ok but that is strange I have not seen this elsewhere It is actually annoying Key clicks are helpful but this is not Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:14 AM, Joney talk2o...@gmail.com wrote: That's how the app works. Joney On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:40 PM, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was using the iphone keyboard to type a message for posting on the native facebook app. I noticed that with every keystroke, the phone made a sound like it makes when you swipe up or down and nothing happens. I do not know the reason for this sound as I am in the edit field entering text. I have the latest update to the operating system and to facebook itself. Can anyone help? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Radio question
To add to the answer to this question, some apps, such as Spotify and Slacker will allow you to listen to specific songs or albums on demand. In some cases you have to pay the subscription fee to be able to do this. Pandora will not allow you to select and listen to something specific, artest and track, on demand. then there is the difference of sound quality. IN myexperience, Spotify has produced by far the best sound quality and Slacker I have not been so impressed with for sound quality. On 3/4/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I see you sent this to a handful of lists, so I apologize if this has already been answered. I don't have iBlink or TuneIn on my phone, but I do have Pandora and Last.FM on my phone. With Pandora you specify an artist and it will stream music from related artists. You can indicate which songs you like and don't like, and it'll adjust to your taste over time. You're basically creating your own radio station. Other radio apps will let you tap into and play internet streams. For example, I can listen to a local radio station here in Austin I like, KGSR. Some apps will give you access to different sources of media, like XM/Sirius and so on. On 03/03/2013 02:03 PM, Shane clark wrote: Hi All, I currently have iBlink and TuneIn on my phone. I hear a lotof people talking about Pandora, Slacker Radio. But what's the difference between them, and other Internet radio stations? I mean they all pretty much do the same thing as far as streaming music and such right? Shane. Sent from my iPhone -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: An audio demo of the process and unprocessed microphone in the iPhone 5
That is amazing. The unprocessed sounds so much better and an amazing microphone to be built into a device. The processing seems to just make it sound so inferior that you really wonder why they have to put in such processing to come up with a worse result. My guess is there is some reason that is not motivated by the end result of quality or the customer, but some other motivation. I'm surprised Apple has not banned this app. They may at some point. For some reason it at times takes them a while until they figure out that they really should have banned some app according to their priorities. On 3/3/13, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, the link below is to a very short demo of the totally different way the microphone on the iPhone 5 can sound when you take away apple's processing. I don't know other apps that do this, but Fire 2 definitely does. You have the way to control the volume, compression, limiter and other audio features. There is a setting in the app that allows you to completely turn off the microphone processing done by apple. First I use List Recorder to record the actual sound of the microphone with all of apple's audio processing turned on, which is the only way most apps can do it. Next, there is a recording made in Fire 2 with the processing turned off. Enjoy. ftp://ftp.ravenswood.org/iPhone-microphone-processed-and-unprocessed.mp3 Neal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN
I agree with this. The only thing I have really found Apple maps to have going for it is good VO accessibility and that is definitely great. However, it is great accessibility to something that for POI information at least is next to useless. I live a stones throw or on a good day less than a 12 minute drive from downtown Portland OR, but Apple Maps finds nearly nothing when I check what POIs are near me at my apartment. There are tons of coffee shops and eating places of a nuber of sorts, some grocery stores and all of them have been around a while. Apple maps finds a school that is nearby. That's it. IT knows nothing else exists. I have not gone so far as to try it yet, but I guess if another app that is worth something in finding things feeds Apple Maps the address then Apple Maps might be useful for navigation. Google maps, the new on the app store application, not the previously available one, has a more difficult interface to get around, but will tell you about just about anything if searching for some POI. I would find it useful if some day Apple Maps knows about things. On 3/2/13, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: I wish the Apple Maps data was too be trusted here, but it isn't. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Which is why I have everything covered that the Seeing Eye app will be providing in a few apps. TomTom and Apple Maps gives me just about everything I need including names of streets I am passing, turn by turn directions, automatic routing and rerouting, with onboard maps (TomTom) or online maps (Apple Maps). Both apps even can give my current address (which is now automatically announced in Apple Maps (when set to Tracking On with Headings). I have stopped using Ariadne, for the most part, because Apple Maps finally does it all, including giving me an accessible onscreen map (Tracking On (without headings). And, even better, Local Scope accesses automatically several internet POI listings and consolidates them for me. It is the only POI system that accesses all my local bus stop locations. Even better, VO accesses Local Scopes map view, if turned on, the same way and to the same degree, that it accesses Apple Maps graphical maps. The best thing, my total, one-time charge (given that TomTom and Navigon are both more expensive here in NZ) is $70 to $80. I do not remember what, if anything, I paid for Local Scope. Where To, the other POI app I like cost me $1.99, and provides many more POIs than I got from Look Around when I was visiting the US. Finally, all the apps I use work perfectly well in NZ. It must be noted that Navigon and TomTom must be purchased separately for each country or region. My point here is I am paying significantly less for equivalent service. I am not getting clock-face directions, but with practice, I have something better, an audio graphical map view interface which shows me the information via haptics (touch) and audio. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 03/03/2013, at 11:47, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: John, Exactly. You bought a device, it had maps on it. You can now choose to upgrade or not to upgrade those maps on the device when they become available. If you do not choose to upgrade the device will continue to work the way it was sold to you. Now I buy a device, lets call it an iPhone. I then purchase an app called Seeing Eye from a company called Sendero. I pay $100 for the app. time goes by. Lets say for the sake of argument that its 3 years later. In the interim I have lost my job, the stock market has crashed and the bank has taken my house back. I have a job interview and want to use this app to find my way to it. I turn it on and low and behold they want another $100 in order for me to use it. In other words I have rented the app for 3 years and now its useless to me. To my small mind this is not good business. I would go so far as to call it extortion. If I am going to pay that high a price for something I damned well want to own it. I do not know what Garmon is going to do with map updates. Whether they are going to be free or not is besides the point. I bought Navigon. It will work the way it is until I get rid of the device, IOS changes so drasticallyy that it no longer is supported or something else better comes along to replace it. The choice is mine, not theirs. Again, these are my opinions and my thoughts. I by no means condemn those of you who have the money to waste on this type of business plan. I guess I am just a bit more frugal than most. Keith On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:21 PM, john gallagher j...@pianotuner.plus.com wrote: hi there keith
Re: Square
I am not sure about the accessibility of the app currently. I heard one time the app itself was at least accessible enough and maybe completely, but the issue to get around is that the module needed plugs into the headphone jack. So you have to work around that and I remember some discussion around that topic, but don't remember for sure of the entire conclusion. Possibly Bluetooth for the sound output may work?? I think there may be some work arounds, but not entirely sure of them or their degree of success. A local coffee shop here uses it on an IPad mini now days. As the customer I am suppose to make some selectgions after they slide the card, but I can not make those selections. It wants me to select if I am leaving them a tip and if I want a text message receipt. They do not get a tip for holding a cup under a spout and possibly entering a food order into the register and I don't care about a text receipt. One day I mentioned that they could set voiceover to be on triple click of the home button, but they reminded me about the module plugged into the headphone jack too. On 3/3/13, DJ grou...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to the list, I am thinking about trying Square as a means of collecting payments from customers. Has anyone on the list had experience with Square and if so, would you be willing to explain what you liked or disliked about it? Thank you. DJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: A couple of apps that are fully VO compliant
I found conditions not to be completely accessible actually. I can see enough to know there are graphics that show what it is going to be like each day and voiceover says nothing about these graphics. It does not even tell you graphics are there. So I don't even think you could label all of the possibilities since it doesn't tell you they are there. So it is too minimal for me and I like more details, not less anyway. JMO. I guess this developer seems to think giving details in a weather app is not desired. On 3/3/13, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi, When I look for conditions, I get over 300 results. Can you give me the name of the developer? I tried the first one just because it was simply called Conditions but, no go. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Srikanth Kanuri Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 1:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A couple of apps that are fully VO compliant hi, i would try the calendar app. thanks for posting these. i have been looking for a good calender app. i am now using an app called due for schedules which is also voiceover compatible but would try this. Sent from my iPhone On 02-Mar-2013, at 5:43 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: HI, I have not seen any chatter about these apps on the list so I thought I would mention them. Forgive me if they have been talked about and I missed the threads. The first is called VO Calendar. Its a calendar app that is written specifically for blind users. Sort of high priced but worth it in my opinion. Anything that saves me time and aggravation is worth $10 in my book. Give it a look see. The second app is called Conditions. It's a very simple weather app that is also fully VO compatible. It's 99 cents and worth throwing a buck at the programmer just because he included VO in his thoughts while writing this app. Heard him on a podcast giving Marco Armant the credit for turning him on to VO. Have fun, Keith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN
There is a population of blind Android usesers that swear by it and swear off Apple and accept inferior accessibility because their priority is google and the Android platform. I think there are still more blind Iphone users because better accessibility is a priority. So my point is that APH has a group to market to and it is easier and I think less expensive to put something on the Android market than on IOS. I suspect APH either prefers Android for some reasons of beliefs held by the people in charge of things or they saw it as a mor conservative approach to launch it on the Android platform or possibly there are technical limitations they can't get around with Apple. Someone mentioned using Google maps not being possible on IOS. I don't know if that is true, doesn't Navigon still have the ability to access google maps? I don't know, I haven't launched Navigon in for ever and I think I uninstalled it a while back. A search within Navigon use to be able to access google maps if you wanted to, but I don't know if that lasted beyond google maps being the maps app on the OS?? I didn't think it counted on that and I thought it just used data to access google regardless of what was on the device natively, but I would be interested in the answer to that. On 3/2/13, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: What I'm really curious about is why APH would design an app for android when most visually impaired people use IPhones? Also I thought I read in the manual that the software has a choice of three sets of maps. On 3/2/13, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: An easy thing to code into the app though; and I remember dropDead apps were deemed illegal here years ago, but rules change, often for the worse. You're not even buying a product to keep any more! Rh. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:49 AM Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN I wonder whether they are thinking of 1-3 years of updates, or 1-3 years where you will be allowed to use the app? If the latter, I wonder how they'll possibly enforce this given that it is not the way purchases from the App Store normally work. I've never heard of expiry dates on App Store applications. Grant On 3/1/13, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: 1: The maps are online. The app is using the Mapquest engine. 2: No virtual mode when the app is released, but it may be added later based on user feedback. 3: The cost is likely to be around 100 dollars. It is not decided if that will be for one year or three years. 4: When asked for a release date, Mike May said their target was last August. So he is not giving a release date. The impression I had is it will be released when it is ready and it is not clear when that might be. Others who listened in may have more to say. If you have more questions about the app, you may want to contact Sendero Group, their web site is: www.senderogroup.com Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message
Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN
Oh that explains it. Sounds like there is little to no chance that the APH option is coming to IOS then. On 3/2/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: APH explained, in an interview last year, that they decided on Android because it gives them the flexibility to develop their Braille Plus on the platform; something which they could not get from Apple. They developed their GPS system for Braille Plus. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 03/03/2013, at 6:26, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm really not sure about that. Yes, a lot of people use iPhones, and IOS devices but, many, many visually impaired people use Android as well. And, maybe it was just cheaper to develope the app on the Android platform. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 2, 2013, at 8:04 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: What I'm really curious about is why APH would design an app for android when most visually impaired people use IPhones? Also I thought I read in the manual that the software has a choice of three sets of maps. On 3/2/13, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: An easy thing to code into the app though; and I remember dropDead apps were deemed illegal here years ago, but rules change, often for the worse. You're not even buying a product to keep any more! Rh. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:49 AM Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN I wonder whether they are thinking of 1-3 years of updates, or 1-3 years where you will be allowed to use the app? If the latter, I wonder how they'll possibly enforce this given that it is not the way purchases from the App Store normally work. I've never heard of expiry dates on App Store applications. Grant On 3/1/13, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: 1: The maps are online. The app is using the Mapquest engine. 2: No virtual mode when the app is released, but it may be added later based on user feedback. 3: The cost is likely to be around 100 dollars. It is not decided if that will be for one year or three years. 4: When asked for a release date, Mike May said their target was last August. So he is not giving a release date. The impression I had is it will be released when it is ready and it is not clear when that might be. Others who listened in may have more to say. If you have more questions about the app, you may want to contact Sendero Group, their web site is: www.senderogroup.com Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
Re: A couple of apps that are fully VO compliant
Hi Keith, Thanks for pointing out these apps. I had not heard of either of them before you mentioned them. I am sure I will go get the conditions app. I would consider the other one. On 3/1/13, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: HI, I have not seen any chatter about these apps on the list so I thought I would mention them. Forgive me if they have been talked about and I missed the threads. The first is called VO Calendar. Its a calendar app that is written specifically for blind users. Sort of high priced but worth it in my opinion. Anything that saves me time and aggravation is worth $10 in my book. Give it a look see. The second app is called Conditions. It's a very simple weather app that is also fully VO compatible. It's 99 cents and worth throwing a buck at the programmer just because he included VO in his thoughts while writing this app. Heard him on a podcast giving Marco Armant the credit for turning him on to VO. Have fun, Keith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN
Let's all hope APH will bring the Near By Explorer app to IOS. I also reserve judgement on the Sendero app for sure. Honestly though, so far from what I have heard about each of these apps, and I have not yet used either of them, the APH offering is way better from what I am able to go on so far. On 3/1/13, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, fair point I suppose. They would most likely need you to create and sign into an account to facilitate this. This is a rather unfortunate side effect of online map access, though it does make business sense. Grant On 3/1/13, Rocket n...@migotti.net wrote: Since the app needs the online maps to function, the website can block the app from accessing data when your subscription expires. The sirius app is an example of an app that won't work without a paid subscription. Marco the rocket Sent from my iPad On 2013-03-01, at 17:49, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder whether they are thinking of 1-3 years of updates, or 1-3 years where you will be allowed to use the app? If the latter, I wonder how they'll possibly enforce this given that it is not the way purchases from the App Store normally work. I've never heard of expiry dates on App Store applications. Grant On 3/1/13, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: 1: The maps are online. The app is using the Mapquest engine. 2: No virtual mode when the app is released, but it may be added later based on user feedback. 3: The cost is likely to be around 100 dollars. It is not decided if that will be for one year or three years. 4: When asked for a release date, Mike May said their target was last August. So he is not giving a release date. The impression I had is it will be released when it is ready and it is not clear when that might be. Others who listened in may have more to say. If you have more questions about the app, you may want to contact Sendero Group, their web site is: www.senderogroup.com Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To
Re: the weather channel app
I have had great success on the IPhone saving a shortcut from www.weather.com. After you access the site it can use location services to get your location or you can enter it. After this is done, it lands on a page that works very well to save a shortcut from on your home screen. This page is about 95% accessible. Getting the current conditions, the weather for the next 48 hours and the next 10 days works perfectly. Accessing the weather alerts when it puts them up on the page is tricky but can be done. There is a heading and a link after it. Swiping to it and double tapping does not activate the link for some reason still unknown to me. Finding that link with your finger and double tapping it does work however. Swiping to it will tell you about it and be just like you have it focused, but it will not activate that way. On 2/28/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi JoJo. I've started a new thread so that others can see it and perhaps be able to answer your question better. Your message got lost within the Sendero thread because it wasn't a new message. Now onto your question. I've not tried this app, but if you are looking for an accessible weather one, you can try Weather Bug, Fahrenheit, or just save a shortcut from your personalized wunderground page from Safari. I'm sure others will have other suggestions as well. Thanks. -- Raul A. Gallegos Finally heading to the comic book store. My cardiovascular system is pumping with joy. =) - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 JoJo wrote: I just downloaded the weather channel app and it seems pretty accessible. Has anyone else tried this app. I was just wondering what others think of it. JoJo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: the new Spotify
Hello, I have been using this app a lot, so when I saw there was an update I was a little concerned, but it is actually quite accessible. I thik if anything, from what I have checked out, it is improved in accessibility. To unlock the shuffle and get to other things you will want, while a track is playing double tap the button in the top left cornor. It is labeled np info and then something I did not analyze by character to see what it is saying after that. Definitely np info though and something else and in the top left cornor. Then you will get some additional options on the screen and down near the bottom, above the volume slider if you have that set to show in the settings, there are some controls on the left and right of the screen. The one on the left is shuffle and it speaks its state if it is selected. If unselected it does not speak its state. It does speak its label though and it is labeled shuffle. As I mentioned earlier, there is a setting in the spotify settings that says show volume slider or whatever it says. You will recognize it. I can only assume the person that said they were not very impressed either has their own ideas in mind of how they want the app to work and do not understand it if it does not comply with those ideas or did not try very hard at all. On 2/28/13, Patrick Neazer vantagepoint1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Peter and all: I will keep looking as well for the key that unlocks the shuffle. Yes, it happens … as far as I can tell … while the current album or playlist is playing. The playlist part does not bother me so much. However, shuffling the current album is something that if I could stop that I would be please … especially for live albums :). If you discover the secret, let me know and I will do the same. Happy listening :). Take good care and I wish you enough. Patrick On Feb 28, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Peter Durieux peter.durieux1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Your information was excellent. Just upgraded to the new version, everything is working, but changing habits isn't that funny sometimes :) To bring up that sidebar by swiping from left to right works for me. (double tap and hold, after the tone swipe with your finger from left to right) Activating search, playlists etc works as expected. Yeah and I also stumbled with the shuffle thingie in previous versions. But it seems to have a fix in this release. The shuffle is only activate d in the current playlist or album. More testing will clarify it I hope. :) So far my first impressions. hth -Peter Op 28-feb.-2013, om 18:29 heeft Irene Elbourn at TAFN ir...@tafn.org.uk het volgende geschreven: Hi Peter, I have tried it very quickly and, so far, am not very impressed. Irene Elbourn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Durieux Sent: 28 February 2013 16:18 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: the new Spotify hi listers, Has someone tested the new Spotify for ios already? version: 0.6 released today grtz -Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 8061 (20130228) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: VoiceDream.
I agree that Julie is the best One I have heard as well. She has the least amount of and almost no compression, which seems to when it is there jumble things together making it difficult to know what was said. Listening to any extended passage with the vocalizer voices is terrible for this reason. VoiceStream is great because you can paste things into it and have it read them too. Jim On 2/28/13, Ann cradlingarm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, the best voice I've heard on there so far is Julie. That voice is $2.99. I can't wait to download it and start reading again. Thank you for inventing such a wonderful product. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:35 AM, Ann cradlingarm...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning, I just joined yesterday. Is there anywhere I can go through Safari to hear the voices over on VoiceStream? I hope this question is going into the correct place. PS hope everyone is doing well thank you Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Jesus Garcia jesusga...@gmail.com wrote: They seem to be priced from $1.99 to $2.99 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anita Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:53 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: VoiceDream. Hi List, How much do additional voices cost for this app? Is it just an app for reading books? I thought more options were available, but maybe not. Anita -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
TuneIn Radio Pro fixes accessibility
Hi everyone, I noticed that the new update to TuneIn radio pro fixes the problem with the search box that would not speak in the previous version. There was no way that I ever found other than entering car mode or turning off voiceover and if you could see enough to touch the regular search field. Car mode had its own issues in that it would read some of the results, but then oher results would not read out what they were when you touched or swiped to them. Then going back over some of them, some that previously read would not read. It was a mess. I did not get to the bottom of it if it was possible to. I have not checked out car mode to see if that is fixed, but the normal mode search field now identifies itself. They do list voiceover improvements in what's new as well. Not specific improvements mentioned, but that they made them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: To anyone with the life proof case or running latest iOS update
That is od. I have not yet upgrade to the latest minor update and have no issue with getting into the Fleksy menu. I wonder if that minor ios update broke something? That is frustrating. I have not updated because I hear there is another minor update just around the cornor, so I figured might as well just do it once within a few weeks instead of twice. On 2/28/13, Danny Leung dlng321.mob...@gmail.com wrote: Jen, I encounter the same problem each time I try to flicking up in the fleksy app. I am running iPhone 5 with latest iOS. I can never go back to fleksy's menu. Danny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: the new Spotify
I want to give people more tips on this app and specifically the latest update. When you double tap on something in search results to have it play, it often does not or it may not ever go automatically to the now playing screen. This could be viewed as a feature or a bug or just something to be indifferent to. It is no problem though. IT shows the track and artest name in the bottom left cornor of the screen when it is playing after you double tapped on it from search results or whatever listing possibly. There is a button to pause the playing track in the bottom right cornor at that point. Double tap on that artest or track name in the bottom left cornor and there you go, your now playing screen comes up. Then double tap the np info button in the top left cornor and you get more options on your now playing screen. Also now when you are in the search screen, there is a side menu button near the top left of the screen. Double tapping that brings up a menu that is mostly different parts of the app you can navigate to from there. Your play lists, search, settings, and some others. The app has a little bit of a complex navigation path, but if you learn it, it works really well and this update has improved accessibility in my opinion. It does not look like they meant to, although who knows, but just how they changed things seems to work a little bit better. On 2/28/13, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have been using this app a lot, so when I saw there was an update I was a little concerned, but it is actually quite accessible. I thik if anything, from what I have checked out, it is improved in accessibility. To unlock the shuffle and get to other things you will want, while a track is playing double tap the button in the top left cornor. It is labeled np info and then something I did not analyze by character to see what it is saying after that. Definitely np info though and something else and in the top left cornor. Then you will get some additional options on the screen and down near the bottom, above the volume slider if you have that set to show in the settings, there are some controls on the left and right of the screen. The one on the left is shuffle and it speaks its state if it is selected. If unselected it does not speak its state. It does speak its label though and it is labeled shuffle. As I mentioned earlier, there is a setting in the spotify settings that says show volume slider or whatever it says. You will recognize it. I can only assume the person that said they were not very impressed either has their own ideas in mind of how they want the app to work and do not understand it if it does not comply with those ideas or did not try very hard at all. On 2/28/13, Patrick Neazer vantagepoint1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Peter and all: I will keep looking as well for the key that unlocks the shuffle. Yes, it happens … as far as I can tell … while the current album or playlist is playing. The playlist part does not bother me so much. However, shuffling the current album is something that if I could stop that I would be please … especially for live albums :). If you discover the secret, let me know and I will do the same. Happy listening :). Take good care and I wish you enough. Patrick On Feb 28, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Peter Durieux peter.durieux1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Your information was excellent. Just upgraded to the new version, everything is working, but changing habits isn't that funny sometimes :) To bring up that sidebar by swiping from left to right works for me. (double tap and hold, after the tone swipe with your finger from left to right) Activating search, playlists etc works as expected. Yeah and I also stumbled with the shuffle thingie in previous versions. But it seems to have a fix in this release. The shuffle is only activate d in the current playlist or album. More testing will clarify it I hope. :) So far my first impressions. hth -Peter Op 28-feb.-2013, om 18:29 heeft Irene Elbourn at TAFN ir...@tafn.org.uk het volgende geschreven: Hi Peter, I have tried it very quickly and, so far, am not very impressed. Irene Elbourn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Durieux Sent: 28 February 2013 16:18 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: the new Spotify hi listers, Has someone tested the new Spotify for ios already? version: 0.6 released today grtz -Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message
Re: Why did you leave the Android platform?
I agree. I currently have both the IPhone 5 and an Android phone to play with running the absolute latest version of Android and as stock as it gets. Stock Android is our best bet as it means that it has not been altered as manufacturers like to endlessly do on the Android side. They all feel the need to reinvent the interface to whatever extent satisfies them. Stock Android gets rid of that concern for you. This is stock and absolutely is not equal to the IPhone. It is amazingly better than 2.3 was, this is 4.2 by the way, but not equal to the I devices. It is finally usable and in my opinions and that of many others, 2.3 was barely usable depending what you wanted to do. To get at some functions you have to do these sweeping gestures that you have to satisfy the system that is what you want and after you gain entry to that screen by doing that, then you can pick that function you were trying to do. With the IPhone I could have had the task accomplished five minutes ago already. On my Android device the two finger scroll gestures are successful about half the time and the other half of the time they either mostly end up activating things on the screen I had no intention of activating or sometimes they don't take. Like it will start to scroll and then decide I did not do it sufficiently and bounce back instead to where it was. In listening to how to do things, I would have never thought the two finger scroll would be the subject of endless frustration and problems. Well, it is. And guess what, you have to scroll with that gesture a lot. Swiping will not ever scroll the screen. You have to. It is a task I dread and want to throw the bleeping thing every time I have to do it because it gives me so much problem and should not be like that. I have been using the IPhone continuously sice 2010 and had some experience before that. I know how to do gestures including those with multiple fingers and rarely are they a problem for me to execute on the IPhone. So no, it is not just my fumbling because I haven't learned this type of interaction. On 2/28/13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Neal, I never had an Android phone, but I do have an Android tablet. And I am glad I still have my iPhone 4S. I hear a lot of folks say that with Jellybean 4.2, Android accessibility is about on par with ios, and I can't agree. Inconsistent operation is one reason. Braille access is another. Inconsistent operation of the gestures is a third. And the reasons you cited with the lack of audio feedback when moving apps and the inability to label buttons is another. I'm glad I have the luxury of being able to play with the Nexus 7 tablet, but there is no way I would move from the iPhone to Android at this time. ios isn't perfect. But the accessibility is considerably more polished, IMHO. The mail app is another area where ios is really good, especially with that new delete feature. I don't want to start a Android versus ios thread. But for me, an end user firmly in the camp of my device being a means to an end, rather than a fun thing to play with that must offer me endless choice, I'm happy to stay with ios for now. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Call quality on the iPhone 5
Currently even if the carrier supported it, would the Iphone 5 be able to in the U.s? I know it is said that obviously the IPhone 5 has the ability to support the feature in some markets other than in this country, but then I also heard that the IPhone 5 does not yet do voice over LTE. Clearly one of my pieces of information is wrong or I am missing something. I guess it doesn't really matter though because there should be further generations of IPhones before the carriers support it here. On 2/28/13, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Dj and list. There is a nice article on this with which carriers plan to switch to hd voice and when. http://ces.cnet.com/8301-34447_1-57563150/verizon-will-be-late-to-the-hd-voi ce-game/ Neal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DJ Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Call quality on the iPhone 5 Hello Neal, First, it's good to see you here on the list. Many of us hadn't heard from you (meaning podcasts etc.) in quite a while. Second, I have noticed that call quality has been greatly improved on both ends of the call on the iPhone 5 at least for me. I should add though that my carrier has what they call HD Voice. I can tell you though that when I talk with a few different people, one using a basic cell phone on another carrier, one using an iPhone 5, and even one using an iPhone 5 on another carrier, the iPhone 5 on my carrier sounds best to me. As for the two on the other carrier, the iPhone 5 has the basic phone beat hands down regarding call quality. With the basic phone, I still notice distortion which isn't noticeable with the iPhone 5. Regards, DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Call quality on the iPhone 5 Hi all. I am sorry if this subject has been beaten to death. I just signed back up for this list because I am switching from Android back to apple. I was just reading about poor call quality on the iPhone 5. In my opinion, I have not heard good quality voice on a cell phone call no matter what phone I have used, but I wonder if people find the iPhone 5 any better or worse than the norm. Thanks much. Neal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I too am interested in this app. I also like what I have heard about the app from APH called Near By Explorer. It is only on the Android platform to the best of my knowledge right now. There is a great demo of it on blind-geek-zone.net. Its cost is about $100.00. I think that is reasonable. It is targeted to a smaller market than the main stream and I'm sure there is quite a bit that goes into research and development of the app. I think that app sets the bar right now, we'll see how this one compares. Maybe it will set a new standard, maybe it won't measure up or maybe it will be quite comparable. I think Raul put it well summing up how our community will react to whatever the price of this app. Both sides need to be reasonable, both the consumer and the people selling the app and setting the price. On 2/27/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Unless I'm missing something, the last time I checked, NaviGon was under $50 for maps that covered some subset of North America. I don't think it would cost you a couple of hundred dollars unless you got maps for a large part of the world. On 27/02/13 20:34, David Chittenden wrote: I am willing to bet that online maps are significantly less expensive. Consider that apps with built-in maps are about 100 or more times the cost, and that is with amortisation across a very large market. Unless people are willing to spend several hundred to a thousand dollars for the app, you are stuck with online maps. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/02/2013, at 15:10, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Definitely good points, I do have an unlocked phone, but when I was on Maui last April for 2 weeks I didn't bother to get a local SIM. ATT is the best option there as far as coverage and they basically told me I could not have a prepaid SIM with data. When I went to Las Vegas last November I ended up getting a SIM from T-Mobile, I believe it cost me about $45, they charged me $30 for the SIM and $11 to put some money on it. On Maui my friend and I used Navigon all the time because she has a pretty bad sense of direction and since we used it exclusively in the car it worked beautifully, it was always accurate and of course I had downloaded the maps for Hawaii before leaving so it was no problem. I completely agree that the option to download maps to the phone would be ideal. But as I also said, it's their first version and as long as the updates keep on coming and we see user feedback incorporated in these updates I have no problem at all to be patient and give them a chance to improve the app. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Sieghard, Like you, I'm not too concerned about GPS apps chewing through huge amounts of data. The bigger concern for me is reliability. Cellular data isn't always perfect and it seems clear that you are more likely to get a smooth experience if map data is stored locally rather than in the cloud. Also, for people who don't have unlocked phones it will mean that they probably will not want to use a GPS app that accesses data while roaming. Therefore, I do hope Sendero will consider storing at least some data locally in a future update. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Bob, Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used to be on a flex plan and I have a hard time using even 1 Gig of data a month, of course I am not streaming music all day long through my phone, but I am also not particularly careful, I download apps via 3G, make VoIP calls via 3G and even download or stream the occasional podcast. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Fenton Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if Canadian maps are not available or if maps are only available via data plan. The latter factor would substantially increase my bottom line cost for using the app
Re: An update on my streaming issues
I too have been able to stream just fine on LTE and on an Airport express router as well as some other routers with two different IPhone 5 units, one a CDMA and one a GSM model. On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, I guess your best solution would be to at least insist that you get to try any replacement phone they give you before you walk out of the store. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: An update on my streaming issues Yep, I have an unlocked phone and I've tried on 3G, LTE and WIFI in two countries. I've replaced my router, I've replaced my phone, I've tried countless streams and countless WIFI networks and the problem still persists. It's a puzzle, all right. My iPhone wasn't replaced for at least a couple weeks, but I suppose it could have been from the same, troublesome, batch of phones. If there are no diagnostic steps that the engineers recommend, I'll request another repair. The strange thing is that I know a few people with iPhone 5s and they mostly complain about the same problems. There's only a lucky few that I've encountered who have no streaming problems at all. So I would have chalked this up to an iPhone 5 defect, and yet there are people who can happily stream all day long. Cheers. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Don and Grant, Depending on how quick the iPhone was replaced there is always a chance that it is from the same batch. Grand, just to verify, you have tried to stream on somebody else's WiFi, correct? I think you said you did, but this would be a good way to make sure it is not a problem with your particular WiFi setup/router. It's even possible that another iPhone whether a 4S or 5 could be working well on your WiFi and that it simply comes down to some sort of incompatibility between your particular iPhone 5 and your router. I'm not saying that this is the problem, but I have also seen enough strange things going on with computers and networks that I wouldn't exclude that possibility. Have you ever just gone to an Apple Store and asked them to connect the phone to their WiFi and then stream something that you know doesn't work well at home? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: An update on my streaming issues I must admit I am shocked. I have such a wonderful streaming experience with the 5 on my DLink router or my Apple Airprort express which by the way does work the best and also on LTE that I can't express how wonderful it is. I can stream 320k streams for hours with wonderful quality and no buffering, breakups or anything but 100% reliablility. I don't say this to brag or rub it in your face just to tell you that your problems are not the norm at all. Hopefully Apple will get to the bottom of it and you will enjoy the same thing eventually. I would have strongly suggested a problem with that particular iPhone but since you have already replaced it the problem remains a puzzle. Don -- Don Breda don.br...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: Is Anyone Running the Latest iOS Update?
I hear the Evaision jailbreak has been updated to support this latest update. I think the update is minor and I don't think it touches much other than that one fix and I guess they attempted to patch the jailbreak opportunity since the jailbreak had to be updated. That is unless the jailbreak has to update to handel a different version number or something. I think and hope there is less cchance of minor updates like this causing us any problems other than of course the possibility of the installation of the update going corrupt in some way. On 2/22/13, Scott Van Gorp s_vang...@msn.com wrote: On a related note, does anyone know if it works on jailbroken phones? _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dani L Pagador Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 5:26 PM To: 'iPhone for visually impaired' Subject: Is Anyone Running the Latest iOS Update? Hi, Everyone. Is anyone running the latest iOS update-6.1.2, I think? If so, is your iDevice running smoothly? Or are there glitches to watch for? I'm getting the update notification, but hesitate to do anything till I get a feel for how others are doing with it. Thanks, Dani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Device specific bugs regarding focus and phone calls, was: vo focus...
Well ya know, a simple 3 finger double tap once in a call will have voiceover shut up as long as you want. Or of course one could be too lazy to do that and push for more complicated coding that increases the possibility of resulting bugs. It takes more time to complain about voiceover reading when you don't want it to than it would to just not be too lazy to use your available commands to make it not do so. On 2/24/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Peter, I just opened an email and double tapped on Reply and Voiceover put focus on Reply which is the first item in the list. It seems that this is an issue which happens in some cases and maybe on some devices. I have a similar problem with Voiceover volume during a call if I am not using a headset. Ever since iOS 6 I am not able to turn Voiceover volume up independently from the call volume, at least I am not able to balance Voiceover volume and call volume where I can comfortably have the phone on speakerphone and dial numbers or hear voice prompts. Apparently not everybody has this problem and my 4S also keeps on reading out call duration every 20 seconds while on a call no matter what I do. If I flick focus away from the call duration, the screen locks after a while and within about 30 seconds Voiceover resumes announcing the call duration. For me I would consider those 2 items the most inconvenient bugs in addition to the fact that Voiceover reads incoming push notification, messages etc. when on a call, Apple should really fix it so that Voiceover shuts up completely with respect to automatic announcements when a phone call is in progress. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Durieux Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: vo focus of last entry in menu's instead of first with ios 6.1.2ee hi folks, does someone else experience this same issue? for example, when tapping the reply button in mail, vo will focus the cancel buttton instead of the first choice answer. the same behaviour are in different apps, so it seems an vo issue in ios 6.1.2 ... With kind regards, -Peter Durieux -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: flexy
I also prefer the new slide up gesture as I think it works faster and more reliable. I don't have problems with entering erroneous characters in the process. Even if you do, what is the worst that happens? you have to just delete them from the end after you get it into whatever you are putting it into. Oh no! On 2/24/13, Kim Carmichael kimcarmich...@verizon.net wrote: I love the change! Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kjc0202 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Charles Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: I was one of those who asked to have the gestures changed. I would have erroneous letters typed when I tried to add a line or try to open the number pad. I am not sure why they changed the menu gesture, but I have no problem with it. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I have e-mailed supp...@fleksy.com or directly via the we love feedback option. I suggested they bring back the old gestures as an alternative, not a replacement, to the new ones. They do listen to all feedback they receive. But like other app developers it depends on what's more important, fix bugs or add/modify new/existing features. I suggest you do the same. Christopher Hallsworth On 24/02/2013 13:56, Tess wrote: Man, is there absolutely no way we can revert flexy back to the way it was originally to where we can double tap or tap the top of the screen to get to the contact info? I hate this 2 finger swipe up to get to the contact info. I am all the time putting in random numbers or letters in my messages when trying to get to the contact info with this swipe up crap. Sorry if this message is coming across is rude, not my intent, it is just that I like flexy, and I fly across the board with typing on it, it is just swiping up to get to the contact info that is driving me nuts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this
Re: kingston wi-drive
I don't have one either, but my understanding is there an app that you load to interface with the drive. That is really the only way you could do anything with any external storage on the IPhone. The Iphone does not in the operating system itself give you any way to access a different storage source. You can access and play music and videosstored on the drive. That is what I read for sure. Maybe what the other reply was referring to about going into wifi settings to access is to connect to the drive so that there will be a wifi connection to the drive that the app can then get to the drive using that connection. I have to admit that this is where things get a little bit limiting the way Apple does things, but it does not mean you can't do what you would generally do if you accessed the drive a different way on a different platform for the most part, but it means the app has to provide for anything you would want to do with it. If the app doesn't provide for any interface to store and access documents on the drive, well then it can't be used for that. I wonder if there is some API that other app developers could use to access such a drive or if that is locked down and not allowed to be generalized. It probably is locked down. On 1/24/13, Thom thom3...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Allen, Although I don't have one of these, I did read up on it. When the unit is turned on, you go to the y fi part of your settings. It should show up there. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Maynard Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: kingston wi-drive Hi all, I've been considering the Kingston wireless drive sold at Amazon.com. I know that it is connected to an iPhone via wifi but I can't find information on how this is actually done. Does anyone have this drive and if so what did you have to do to wirelessly connect your iPhone to the Kingston wireless drive? Many thanks Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: software update.
Because 6.02 is only for a few devices. IPhone 5 and I think the IPad mini. On 1/14/13, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote: Do you have an Iphone 5? That update was for the iPhone 5 and IPad mini. Andy -Original Message- From: Jenifer Barr Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:09 AM To: iPhone List Subject: software update. Hi all. I just checked my settings general software update, and I'm still running 6_0.1. I thought there was a 6.02 Why can't I see this? Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: New iPhone 5
If after you power it on the first thing you do is the triple click home, that should turn on voiceover. You should then be at the beginning of the setup screens. They are all accessible. If you do a restore of your backup, that will restore your configuration such as where on the home screen you had all of your apps and what was there. After that it should go in to synchronizing the apps into those spots. The restore also restores all of the data captured in the backup. I think that includes all of the contacts. I am almost sure it does. If not, they come down from ICloud. I have done this process many times and it has restored all of that. On 1/3/13, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello all, later this month I will be purchasing a new iPhone 5. 2 questions. When I receive my new phone will the triple click home turn on VO? Finally, to transfer my contacts apps etc from my Mac to the phone would I do a restore from my last backup? Thanks for any advice. Max. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Call log not showing all calls
Maybe make sure you are scrolled to the top of the list for sure? Touch the time or something on the status bar at the top of the screen and double tap. On 12/30/12, Kimberly kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote: Even though i have selected to see all calls on my recent list, not all my calls are showing. For example i made a caall ten minutes ago that does not appear. Any thoughts on why this has started happening? Sent from Kimber's iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone: Some Perspective
Definitely agreed! Maybe I have missed and and am not finding some posts, but complaining about a lack of being easy to use??? Complaining about level of over all accessibility?? I think if people are complaining about it not being easy enough to use or an over all lack in accessibility, they need to examine the validity of their expectations. They should have to use what is on another platform for a week. They should take a look at if the problem simply lies with their understanding of how to use the technology and not entirely the technology's fault. Bashing the accessibility Apple has given us on IOS is quite likely acting spoiled and inconsiderate of one's own responsibility to learn and understand what they are critizising. On 12/21/12, Sandy Finley finleykn...@gmail.com wrote: Lately there has been some frustration expressed on this list about accessibility and ease of use of Apple products. I hope that what I have to say here will help some put this in perspective. I bought an iPod for Christmas for my sighted husband. Because we are traveling for Christmas I gave it to him last evening. He has never used an iPhone and while bright, techy stuff is not his priority. I loaded onto it our entire digitized music collection plus his almost 1,500 digital photos, and a few apps I thought he'd like. As I showed him how to use it I had one of those ahah! Moments. I was saying things like, That bottom row is called the doc and there's a download button up there on the right and tap play list on the bottom. As far as I know the iPhone is one of the few products that is not only accessible, but we have a fairly accurate picture of the location of items on the screen. Perhaps it's due to my technological inferiority but I know that when he and I navigate a web page together in Internet Explorer I don't have a good picture of what is where from his perspective and he doesn't understand mine either. To say that he was impressed with my newfound orientation to the screen is an understatement. I bought that iPod, showed my stepson how to activate VO and then took it over and set it up myself. To me this is very powerful stuff. Apple isn't perfect and I got frustrated just the other day figuring out how to enter all of my trips into Flight Few, but we've come a very long way from my college years with a slate and stylus, Braille writer, four-track, reel-to-reel tape recorder and portable typewriter. Sandy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Suspected battery drain issue with iOS 6.0.2
Agreed. Absolutely every release and the battery drain posts are soon to follow. I wonder when it will ever become a common thought that it might be in some cases the update process? Like was stated below, in some cases more than others it actually has to do with the update itself. I can say I am running it here and the battery has been fine. On 12/20/12, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I won't argue the validity of the claims but, I will say this. I kid you not when I say, every update since IOS 3.0, I have heard people complain on how the update has caused battery drain on their device. Some updates were more guilty of this than others. And then, there were times were it was really some app running rogue on an individuals device or something along those lines. I just say this to cut off any possible hysteria that might arise from some on list about being afraid to update their device, etc. haha. hth. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Dec 20, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings. The following is an article I just saw on Twitter from Ars-Technica concerning iOS 6.0.2. Once again, the recent update is only for the iPhone5 and newer devices. The article link is below. iOS 6.0.2 suspected of draining batteries http://ars.to/12CwD7j Wayne, who's glad he hasn't udpated to 6.0.2 yet -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: silencing apps while on a call
You could use the 3 finger double tap to turn off speech while you don't wantit to be talking such as while you are on a call. On 12/16/12, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In my experience, this doesn't work when on a call using my iPhone 5 with the latest version of IOS. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Dec 16, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Do you have triple click set to toggle VoiceOver on and off? Go into Settings - General - Accessibility and look at the triple click setting at the bottom of that list. On 16/12/12 09:10, Emilio wrote: Heather, At least in my experience, I am having the same issue. I am using an iPhone five and I have tried muting voiceover in an effort to silence sounds. I'm trying to disable voiceover like I've done with previous iPhones, it has proven unsuccessful. I am either limited to the speakerphone or continue to stay on the handset. Voiceover at least in my opinion, cannot be disabled. This is unfortunate. If anyone has any suggestions, I would greatly welcome them. Triple clicking the home button Does not disable voiceover. I miss this feature of my previous iPhone. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Antivirus software
While we can not deny anything is possible, and yes I am sure someone determined enough could make something like that happen with an IPhone, they would have to jump through a lot of hoops to do it and to get the code approved and into the store. What the android fans love to level against the IPhone is how it is such a closed system and theirs is so open. Yes, open to malware consistently on the rise So far as I know there are few things one would likely truly care about that they do with this open system that we do not have a way of doing. Yes there are a few, they can use more synthesizers for example. Most of what is sited often though it seems they haven't chosen to investigate the method of doing on IOS. So the bang for the buck on that open system is not all that much of a bang I don't think. On 12/12/12, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that happens with Android phones. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 13/12/2012, at 15:50, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I thought but it's sure on the news lately about how someone bought a ringtone thing and their phones were scamed from this computer who tracked everything they purchased at the mall and everyone they texted to. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Antivirus software Unless you begin to hack your iPhone, in all honesty I wouldn't worry about it and there aren't system-wide antivirus apps designed for the iPhone. They aren't really needed. Since each app is kept in its own sandbox and cannot access anything else on your device aside from specific API hooks (i.e. when an app asks for permission to access your contacts), and since all code is signed and approved by Apple, the chances of malicious code being able to run on your device are very slim. The security model of iOS means that it's just about the most secure type of platform you'll ever see. Grant On 12/12/12, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote: I've been watching the news and hearing about all of the phone scams out there. What I would like to know is what antivirus software should we put on our smart phones? They keep saying to get one but I have no idea which one to get and how they work. Fortunately I don't use the web a lot and I only buy apps from the App Store but if anyone has any info on what to get I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks! Carla -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: app switcher
When you get that black screen, are you able to do anything at that point? That really sounds like when the springboard crashes. What happens after you get this and what steps do you take to do anything after that? On 12/3/12, heather albright kd5...@gmail.com wrote: Hum, do we have any sighted people on the list? I never new how the screen looked before, I just use vo with the current on to save my battery! I had my mom go on my app switcher on my iphone 4s. She said the apps in the switcher were all at the tottom and when I removed them fromthe switcher, the little icons removed themselves from the switcher. But no black screen, apparently my wall paper is solid color in the background. Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: New Iphone 5
I don't think the screen protector is going to do much to prohibit the screen from cracking on impact. The screen protector is mostly protection against scratching. I almost went without any case, but then decided a case is useful in protecting against impact damage possibilities. In my situation though, I was just trying to be extra careful. It really seems to me that the IPhone 5 is built well enough that it likely doesn't need a case for normal every day relatively careful use. AS was mentioned though there can be the possible slip out of your hands issue. On 11/25/12, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: They're still the way to go if you don't mind sacrificing the thin feel of the phone, in my opinion. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Iphone 5 Also, the iPhone 5 has one less layer of glass from what I read. This was as part of the effort to make the overall phone thinner. There are theories that the entire concept of screen protectors and cases is a way for manufacturers to make money and phones don't really need them. Whether it's true or not I still choose to have cases for my phones, but I no longer subscribe to the opinion that Otterbox Defender cases are the way to go. I still want to enjoy the thin feel of my phone. However to each his/her own. If someone wants to go with a naked iPhone and nothing ever happens to it, great. -- Raul A. Gallegos That awkward moment when you're at a friends house, and their parents start screaming at them...And you're just, like, there. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 11/25/2012 3:38 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Um, I'd get a protector. That screen can still be cracked quite easily. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco *Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:37 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* New Iphone 5 I finally got around to upgrading to the iPhone 5. I was very impressed with its thin design, and had considered not getting a case for it, but after it almost slipped out of my hand twice, i thought better and got a simple case that covers the back and sides. It does not have a screen protector, as i have never used one. I was told that the screen is made of Gorilla Glass, and a protector is unnecessary. The case makes it easier to hold, but like any case, it takes away from that thinness that is just so cool. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: airplay with amazon cloud player, impossible?
Airplay absolutely works with Amazon cloud player and I use it quite frequently. If you are not connected to your wifi the airplay button may be grayed out or if something is not configured correctly with your air play device on the network. What have you tried? I do not think you can get to the air play button in cloud player by swiping. What have you tried and what has been the issue? On 11/23/12, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I finally bought some mp3 albums on Amazon and would love to be able to play these via my iPhone using airplay. But it seems airplay is not an option in the Amazon Cloud Player. Am I missing something or is that really not possible? I know I could synch up through itunes, and get the songs on my phone and play them using airplay via the music app, but what a waste of time and space on the iPhone. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Question about iPhone 4S
It is up to you and it is usually perfectly fine to restore from the old unless you wre having some kind of issue that might have gotten saved in the backup. It is often an advantage to restore it from the backup. It's like putting the exact image of what was on the old one on the new hardware. The reason you lost your existing texts when you restored is likely because the process overwrote any existing data, it did not combine the data on the phone with the backup. You did not do anything wrong, it's just how the process works in that case. On 11/19/12, Shane Clark hshanecl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I got another iPhone 4S a few weeks ago, because the volume button broke. I went to cync it to my computer to put my music on it, and it asked me did I wanna set the new phone up as a new one, or back it up from the previous one, and I chose to restore it from the previous phone. My questions are: is this ok or should I have cynced it as a new phone, or is it personal preference? Secondly, I noticed that all of my texts were now back on my replacement-new 4S from when the last time I cynced the old phone, and the texts that I had already had on the new 4S were gone. How are kthe old texts saved, and how come the texts that were on the phone before I cynced it disappeared? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: 2 apps seem to be hun on Installing in Updates
Try double tapping on the apps on the home screen. On 11/18/12, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote: Hi, I have 2 apps I've tried to install this weekend that just don't seem to go anywhere. They're both listed on my Updates screen, with Installing button dimmed, but nothing is happening with them. A number of other apps have downloaded fine. Is there anything I can or should do, or should I just leave them alone? I've never run into this before. Thanks in advance. Keith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Volume of Music on my iPhone
The full volume setting I believe is just a button to immediately put the volume selecter on 100% if it was on something else before you pressed that button. On 11/17/12, Sandy Finley finleykn...@gmail.com wrote: I am burning CDs onto our hard drive and I have put some on my phone. They sound ok but I can't get the volume up as high as I would sometimes like when listening through ear phones. The volume on the phone is set at 100%. In iTunes on the PC I noticed two volume settings, one is 100% and the other is a button that says full volume; is that not redunddant? I believe I have the volume at 100% when burning but I would think that in this digital age that would not matter. I am not recording; I am converting or importing. What can I do to raise the volume? If you tell me I have to reburn all of this music I promise not to shoot the messenger? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Focus 14 comments
Thanks for the Focus description. This one is on my short list when I get the money to be able to put to that priority. In fact it is the first one I am considering at this point. It is still a chunk of change and I am a bit fearful about what will happen in January and what impact it will have on finances if congress doesn't decide to have the peoples' interest in mind soon, but that is probably saying too much about something not to talk about here. My concern comes from the news and no other source, just for the record. On 11/7/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Mary, I'm getting less hopeful at getting my hands on a demo, but I'm going to try once more tomorrow to get a clear answer. Yes, a notepad function would be fabulous on one of these smaller devices. Let's hope the Mini ends up being the ticket. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 6:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Focus 14 comments Thanks, Richard. I really lust after that notepad and auto scroll capability on the Mini or I think the braille edge, although that costs too much for my budget. I keep edging closer to the idea of just ordering the mini from Perkins but hoping your source will come through and you'll be able to get a demo unit. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Problem with new iPhone 5
Sounds like they would either have to decide if it would be worth it and take it apart and see what is going on to whatever extent they could or just swap it out for another one or tell you tuff *** in some manner. Seriously though, of course we can only speculate on the cause or the Apple authorized solution. I really hope they do get it together soon with these quality control issues. It is not acceptable for the consumer to have to take the consequence of quality control issues. What was it they meant again about that ultra precision of the new IPhone? The thing built to such a high standard? On 11/6/12, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Aww man, I wonder if there are some quality control problems with a couple batches of iPhone 5s? I know I'm being a bit picky, but I got a replacement 5 in the mail because the phone rattled when I shook it. This brand new unit doesn't rattle, but there's another problem. The vibration motor is rather weak and doesn't deliver the same smooth, consistent performance as the previous 5 did. When the phone vibrates it sounds as though other components in the phone are jiggling around; for example, holding my hand on the silent switch makes the vibration sound a bit better. I'm not doing a very good job of describing the symptoms, but you'd know what I'm talking about if you could hear it. I wonder if there's anything that a genius could do besides replacing the phone? As this phone doesn't rattle I'd like to keep this one, if the vibration problems can be ironed out. What do you guys think? Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Subtle noise when shaking iPhone 5?
I also heard that episode, but the really disturbing thing is in the latest one after that, someone from Apple had commented that they have a policy that they will not replace an IPhone for the rattle problem and they stated tey have official Apple documents that state they will not do it. That is really disturbing when some are clearly having issues with a rattle that is not there in others and it sounds like Apple is taking the direction of a cover up. If some do not rattle, none of them should. Apple needs to own up to their crap for quality control and make things right for everyone. On 11/5/12, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to give an update on the rattle sound I heard when shaking my iPhone 5. My phone company offers a 14-day window where you can get your unit exchanged with a brand-new, sealed unit. I opted for this just in case. The new unit has no rattle at all. I'm very happy. I'm convinced there was something moving around in the older unit that shouldn't be. Grant On 10/24/12, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: For sure, the thing is though that the subtle clicking sound on my phone isn't at all significant. If I take it back and get a replacement, it'll be a refurbished unit which I really don't want if I can help it. On 10/24/12, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi all you who have a rattling iPhone, Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast just covered this issue in his last episode and he had several callers who called in reporting that they had various noises. One caller said his made more of a stronger rattle/clunk and that he ended up getting a new iPhone after he took his phone to an Apple Store and the tech determined his battery was slightly loose. Other callers said the small clicking/rattle could be the camera lens or the home key. My 4S is dead quiet and I never noticed a rattle with my 4 either and I had an iPhone that made a significant noise when I shook it I'd probably take it back to Apple and argue that this should not be which seems to be what quite a few of the callers seemed to agree with. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Subtle noise when shaking iPhone 5?
Ok, I know someone is going to say the tone at the end of my message and the wording was not appropriate and maybe it wasn't quite the way I should have expressed how I feel. I'm sorry if it was incorrect. I do very strongly feel concerned if they take the direction of just pushing the issue under the rug or denying it to be an issue or however is best to describe it. That idea is really upsetting to me. The only way I can really think of around it when it is an issue and if they will not respond in an acceptable way is to take it to squaretrade (square trade) and hope they would consider it a real issue. I would think they would, but who knows for sure. On 11/5/12, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: I also heard that episode, but the really disturbing thing is in the latest one after that, someone from Apple had commented that they have a policy that they will not replace an IPhone for the rattle problem and they stated tey have official Apple documents that state they will not do it. That is really disturbing when some are clearly having issues with a rattle that is not there in others and it sounds like Apple is taking the direction of a cover up. If some do not rattle, none of them should. Apple needs to own up to their crap for quality control and make things right for everyone. On 11/5/12, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to give an update on the rattle sound I heard when shaking my iPhone 5. My phone company offers a 14-day window where you can get your unit exchanged with a brand-new, sealed unit. I opted for this just in case. The new unit has no rattle at all. I'm very happy. I'm convinced there was something moving around in the older unit that shouldn't be. Grant On 10/24/12, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: For sure, the thing is though that the subtle clicking sound on my phone isn't at all significant. If I take it back and get a replacement, it'll be a refurbished unit which I really don't want if I can help it. On 10/24/12, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi all you who have a rattling iPhone, Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast just covered this issue in his last episode and he had several callers who called in reporting that they had various noises. One caller said his made more of a stronger rattle/clunk and that he ended up getting a new iPhone after he took his phone to an Apple Store and the tech determined his battery was slightly loose. Other callers said the small clicking/rattle could be the camera lens or the home key. My 4S is dead quiet and I never noticed a rattle with my 4 either and I had an iPhone that made a significant noise when I shook it I'd probably take it back to Apple and argue that this should not be which seems to be what quite a few of the callers seemed to agree with. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Subtle noise when shaking iPhone 5?
True, in the case that you describe, I very likely would not pay attention to it if it were not causing and I did not think it would cause any future issue. I do agree that I absolutely appreciate Apple accessibility and the extra mile they go in a lot of cases. It makes all the difference and does not go unappreciated. On 11/5/12, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It depends on the rattle. On my iPhone, if I hold it just right and shake it just so, I can barely hear a very slight rattle. In my case, it is one of the volume buttons which I can very slightly wiggle. The movement is less than a millimetre. As a company, I would not replace such an issue unless my policy stated that nothing in the product has any movement except in directions that are specified. Yes, you can acquire products built to that intense of specifications. And yes, those products are considerably more expensive than the consumer analog of such products. For example, look at the specs, and related prices, of the Panasonic ToughBook laptops. They are a couple thousand more than standard laptops of the same specs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 06/11/2012, at 16:35, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I know someone is going to say the tone at the end of my message and the wording was not appropriate and maybe it wasn't quite the way I should have expressed how I feel. I'm sorry if it was incorrect. I do very strongly feel concerned if they take the direction of just pushing the issue under the rug or denying it to be an issue or however is best to describe it. That idea is really upsetting to me. The only way I can really think of around it when it is an issue and if they will not respond in an acceptable way is to take it to squaretrade (square trade) and hope they would consider it a real issue. I would think they would, but who knows for sure. On 11/5/12, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: I also heard that episode, but the really disturbing thing is in the latest one after that, someone from Apple had commented that they have a policy that they will not replace an IPhone for the rattle problem and they stated tey have official Apple documents that state they will not do it. That is really disturbing when some are clearly having issues with a rattle that is not there in others and it sounds like Apple is taking the direction of a cover up. If some do not rattle, none of them should. Apple needs to own up to their crap for quality control and make things right for everyone. On 11/5/12, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to give an update on the rattle sound I heard when shaking my iPhone 5. My phone company offers a 14-day window where you can get your unit exchanged with a brand-new, sealed unit. I opted for this just in case. The new unit has no rattle at all. I'm very happy. I'm convinced there was something moving around in the older unit that shouldn't be. Grant On 10/24/12, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: For sure, the thing is though that the subtle clicking sound on my phone isn't at all significant. If I take it back and get a replacement, it'll be a refurbished unit which I really don't want if I can help it. On 10/24/12, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi all you who have a rattling iPhone, Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast just covered this issue in his last episode and he had several callers who called in reporting that they had various noises. One caller said his made more of a stronger rattle/clunk and that he ended up getting a new iPhone after he took his phone to an Apple Store and the tech determined his battery was slightly loose. Other callers said the small clicking/rattle could be the camera lens or the home key. My 4S is dead quiet and I never noticed a rattle with my 4 either and I had an iPhone that made a significant noise when I shook it I'd probably take it back to Apple and argue that this should not be which seems to be what quite a few of the callers seemed to agree with. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options
Re: audio issues on iPhone5
I also noticed some choppiness when using TuneIn radio, and what it seemed to be nothing more than when the sound ducks under voiceover and then when it comes back up again, it doesn't do it smoothly and just sounds like it skips for a second or less. I wonder if a series of times of that occuring is what is causing much or all of the choppiness issue that people arehaving with the sound at times. I hope Apple does not throw in a quick fix that puts voiceover at a lower priority and possibly result in a problem of losing voiceover speech when listening to things. On 10/30/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect the problem with crashing is more an issue with iPhone 4S, but I also noticed some choppiness as well. Mainly seemed to be if VO was speaking. On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed some choppiness in the update to TuneIn Radio released yesterday, which is TuneIn Radio 2.9. This morning when trying to skip forward in a stream, I experienced some of the same choppiness described here. This is the only issue I have had with the updated app, so as long as it doesn't get too bad, I may just fight through it. Sometimes when I ahve had trouble with an app and VoiceOver, I have sent a message to the app's Twitter name, and often get a response within a few hours to a day or two. Wayne On 10/29/12, Len Burns len.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, I have been experiencing similar issues with the 4S since I upgraded to IOS6. It is very apparent in the Hanging with Friends game, in interactions with Siri, and a number of other situations. Whereever I encounter the issue, the pattern is similar to what you describe below. It seems that VoiceOver is not sharing the audio system smoothly with certain apps. While it is possible this will be resolved by app updates, I am skeptical since it is occuring with built in software. For example, when I instruct Siri to send an iMessage, unless I tap to open the message screen or close Siri, I do not hear the sound usually accompanying a send. Regards, -Len On 10/29/2012 3:10 PM, Alex Wallis wrote: Hi list, I guess I am rather late to the iPhone5 and IOS6 party, and I am sure this topic has already been covered, but I am experiencing strange audio playback problems on the iPhone5 and am wondering if they are present on other phones running IOS6. The problem is that in some apps, not all but in a few when the app plays audio and VoiceOver tries to speak at the same time the app audio and VoiceOver get in the way of each other and the audio becomes very choppy and broken up til VoiceOver stops talking. I have experienced this problem in zombies run, King of dragon pass and lost cities. Interestingly I haven't experienced the problem at all in the music playing app golden ear when it is playing audio. Does this mean these apps just need updating to take account of apples changes or is this a bug with ios6? I have already written to the authors of king of dragon pass and lost cities, lost cities have responded to me, but no word from the developer of king of dragon pass yet. I was planning to write to the zombies run developer, as the issue is still a big problem even with the update released today, but thought before I write that I will ask the list if we have had any word from apple about the problem. Thanks for any help, Alex. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: Google's VoiceSearch App
Interesting. I would guess the only way they get responses to come back that quick is to maintain a constant connection to the server. Of course I can only speculate, but it would seem they use resources to maintain a connection rather than take the time to send a query. I wonder if they could be bothered to make it voiceover accessible or make sure it is? It seems they can't be bothered to care about that all that much on their own platform. On 10/30/12, Robin robin-mel...@comcast.net wrote: Google's latest voice search technology can be found in a new update for the company's iOS app that makes Siri look slow. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives/http://www.cnet.com/profile/Josh.Lowensohn/ Josh Lowensohn by http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives/http://www.cnet.com/profile/Josh.Lowensohn/Josh Lowensohn October 30, 2012 10:36 AM PDT [] (Credit: Google) Nearly three months after its snazzy demo, Google's enhanced voice search for iOS is here. The service, which mimics some of the functionality found in Google's search technology built intohttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives/http://www.cnet.com/android-atlas/Android as part of Jelly Bean, aims to keep Siri on her toes. The software provides contextual results for voice queries and serves up Web searches for everything else. In some brief testing this morning, the answers came back markedly quicker than Apple's own offering, even showing you voice transcriptions as queries were spoken -- something Siri does not do until users are done talking. The new feature went out as part of an update this morning, which also added support for Apple's iPhone 5. iOS users need to be on iOS 4.2 or above to use the feature. In an interview with CNET earlier this year, Google said it plans to build some of the same search integration into its other products, namely Calendar and Drive, though has not set out a timetable for those additions. Here's Google's promotional video of it in action: Topics: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives//8300-5_3-0.html?categoryId=9728406Apps, http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives//8300-5_3-0.html?categoryId=10457942iOS Tags: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives//8300-5_3-0.html?keyword=searchSearch, http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives//8300-5_3-0.html?keyword=voice+searchvoice search, http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives//8300-5_3-0.html?keyword=appleApple, http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives//8300-5_3-0.html?keyword=googleGoogle, http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives//8300-5_3-0.html?keyword=iosiOS http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives/http://www.cnet.com/profile/Josh.Lowensohn/ [] http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives/http://www.cnet.com/profile/Josh.Lowensohn/Josh Lowensohn URL: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57542512-37/googles-siri-competitor-for-ios-arrives/?part=rsssubj=newstag=title -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: problem of actions taking focus
if it did not work in this way, defaulting to the actions setting on the rotor, then the actions setting and its function would be far less useful. It is meant to be a quick way of performing these actions. Having to change the rotor to that setting, well then you might as well just click edit and have to go through that way. On 10/26/12, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin, No I am not having this issue. I understand that when I am in a list of messages or emails that the rotor will automatically change to the Action feature. I quite like this as I no longer have to fuss with the rotor and do not have to go into the edit screen to delete messages. I quite like this feature. I have noticed that if I have my rotor set to vertical navigation it does not default to the Action item though. Pisses me off when this happens and I am looking to quickly delete a few spam messages or whatever. I guess it comes down to personal preference but I love this addition to the rotor myself. Keith On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote: One thing that is going to drive me quite insane in IOS 6 is that when viewing messages most of the time, although it seems not all, the rotar somehow is set to select actions. Thus, when I thought I hhad words selected and I swipe down to go to the next word, I hear delete instead. I hate this. If I wanted to choose actions I would choose it myself. Actions is not something I can exclude from the rotar from within the VoiceOver control panel so it seems I'm stuck with it. Anybody else having this problem? Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: problem quitting applications with home button
I agree and it is a mystery and even frustrating that we can't seem to get people on this list to stop recommending it like it is a supported feature or something. The way people on this list push that method and if you were a new person or didn't know, you would think it was an official Apple command. Here's wishing everyone who uses that and knows it is not supported gets corrupt data every time! On 10/26/12, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Pressing the lock button five times quickly is a bug that crashes the springboard. Apple does not recommend this method for resetting iOS or VO. In fact, it is the only method which ever corrupted data on my iOS device. Use at your own risk. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 27/10/2012, at 7:07, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote: Katey, THe home button ineffectiveness I have noticed more since upgrading to i.os. I'm glad I'm not the only one since I was beginning to worry that I had a faulty iPad 2 and would have to take it for repairs which is usually costly. Have you by any chance reported it to Apple? Also, do you know that you can reset Voiceover by pressing the lock button 5 times quickly? That might save you going into settings. The 5 finger pinch has to be enabled in settings/accessibility/voiceover. There is also a 4 finger swipe there which you may find useful on the iPad. Best wishes Andrew On 26 Oct 2012, at 18:51, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, I've noticed this on my iPad 3Gen since upgrading to iOS 6. I was thinking it was a problem with my home button! But maybe it's a VO bug. I usually go to settings and turn off back on VO (I have some usable vision). I was also thinking it may be a comflict of something, as since iOS 6 came out I have VO on and Zoom on as well. Prior to iOS 6 we couldn't do that. I don't have Zoom on my iPhone as the level of magnification I need is too big to be effective on the smaller screen, in fact I consider myself a VO user as my primary choice of using either of my iDevices. So, I'd be interested to see if anyone else has experienced this. Also, I'll have to check out the five finger pinch out I don't use any of the iPad custom gestures as of yet. Thanks, Katey On 10/26/12, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Listers, I seem to have a problem trying to quit certain applications by pressing the home button. Similarly, I can't seem to be able at times to call up app switcher by pressing the home button twice quickly. I am talking here about the iPad 2. The trouble is that this behaviour is erratic. Sometimes the home button works immediately, other times I have to press it several times. Sometimes I can't quit an application and I can only do so by performing the five finger pinch that takes me to the screens with my applications listed. Has anyone else had this experience? Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart. Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public
Re: the IPhone 5 and does it have longer battery life
Phone calls definitely sound better and the battery life is at least as good. I think battery life may be a little better as well. I have been quite happy with it. Jim On 10/25/12, Debbie G buttercup1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have the iPhone 5 and have had it since October 18. Yes, the battery lasts longer in my opinion, I sounded better to other people with whom I spoke and people sounded much clearer to me. Take care. Debbie - Original Message - From: Casey To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:12 PM Subject: the IPhone 5 and does it have longer battery life Hi i have heard that the I Phone five has better battery life then the I Phone 4. Is this true and also does the new I Phone 5 sound better during calls then the I Phone 4 does or is it about the same? -- Casey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPod Touch 5TH Generation battery issue
I have had older versions of the IPod touch do the same thing. I don't know if that helps you any. I guess it really means you can't use the last 12% of the battery and now that I think about it, I can understand why that is not so good. On 10/25/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sieghard and David, The battery life is pretty good, but the odd part is that it acts as if 12 percent is the lowest it can go. I plan to talk with them about getting a replacement, but you have to go through their hoops first. I just wanted to know if anyone else with the fifth generation touch are seeing anything like this. I hope it isn't a wide spread issue, just my unit, the more information I have from other 5th gen touch users, the better. Thanks, Richard Sent from my iPod On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Richard, I had the same problem when I bought my first iPod Touch which was a third Generation back in 2009. I did basically the same as you which is what Apple support wanted me to do. Then I phoned them back and told them it was still going through the battery like crazy and they asked me to send it back and I received a new unit. I wouldn't fool around, just insist on getting a new one since you tried everything. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:09 PM To: ViPone list Subject: iPod Touch 5TH Generation battery issue I have had the iPod Touch 5TH Generation for 4 days now. I charged it to a full charge and then used it for close to 7 hours when it got to 12 percent, it shut itself down. I spoke with Apple and they had me reset all settings. I brought it to a full charge again, and once again when it got to 12 percent battery left, it shut itself down again. I don't know if VO is misreporting the battery lifeor what. Any other touch 5th Gen users having any similar experience? Thanks, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5
That is the big disadvantage in my opinion of using the weather app that comes in IOS or SIRI getting data from it. Yahoo weather just doesn't seem to be all that accurate, especially in microclimates. I'm sure people's experiences probably differ though. On 10/25/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, it gets it from the local weather app which comes on the iPhone. I think the app gets it from Yahoo weather if I remember right. Although you can ask Siri about the weather in different cities all over the world, I think it still uses the same weather source and I don't think you can change it. -- Raul A. Gallegos Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable. - Mark Twain Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 10/25/2012 1:10 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote: Does Siri pull the weather data from the native weather app? Is there a way to get Siri to read weather from other apps, such as MenuWeather? MenuWeather seems to more accurately reflect the weather condisions in my micro-climate. Thanks. Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5 Just say, what's the weather today and she will tell you. If Voice Over is off she'll just tell you the temp, but if Voice Over is on, you will get the temp, plus whatever shows up on the screen. Like the high and low for the day. -- Raul A. Gallegos The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. - Mark Twain Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 10/25/2012 12:55 PM, Chris wrote: It would appear the weather is also displayed rather than spoken according to yesterday's mess about. So how do you get Siri to speak the weather then? Christopher Hallsworth On 25/10/2012 02:38, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of interaction, I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more information displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over. However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls, or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying otherwise. -- Raul A. Gallegos The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. - E. Joseph Cossman Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote: Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems more logical and more like a natural conversation this way. Christopher Hallsworth On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Chris, I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both for asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It works fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher Hallsworth and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message to say, SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press the home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply speak your message and SIRI will hear it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5 Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at least I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5. Christopher Hallsworth On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Chris. Before you buy your phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over. Kawal. On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is the fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said hello, it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I then asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she told me about the Weather app opening. I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my unusually
Re: Subtle noise when shaking iPhone 5?
I heard some callers siting the issue and their resolution on TodayInIos podcast 245, right now the most recent version, and some people have taken theirs back to the store and it was a loose battery. If you hear a heavy sounding flopping around, which they did, it was a loose battery in their case. Tere is apparently a separate issue with some camera parts rattling around as well and they sited that the store tech told them that should not happen either. These people were able to get them with no rattles at all. It sounds like it depends on who you talk to and at least some within Apple are trying to blow off the issue by just calling it normal with some excuse and others are able to get proper units with no rattle. This is a little disturbing. On 10/24/12, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I've never heard any noise, but then my hearing isn't quite as good as it was, so I'll defer to others on this one! Les On Oct 23, 2012, at 6:55 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Grant, everything makes a sound when shaking. I just tried it with my cat. smile. Seriously, for what it's worth, I think it's fine. -- Raul A. Gallegos Dream research is a wonderful field. All you do is sleep for a living. ~ Stephen LaBerge Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 10/23/2012 3:19 AM, Grant Hardy wrote: Thanks for all the replies guys! This is a rather split discussion I'd say. I was hoping everyone would either say it's normal or nope, get it exchanged immediately. *grin* It sounds like the tiniest piece of...plastic, or something...moving around inside the iPhone 5. I thought of taking it into my nearest Apple store, but the noise is so subtle that I know we won't be able to hear it in a crowded store. I also tend to worry about my new gadgets a little obsessively, so it may well be totally normal. The device, certainly, functions well. Does anyone have an iPhone 5 that doesn't make any sound when shaken? Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: When something else has control of my onscreen keyboard
His question said I'm far enough away from the device that has control that I don't want to move to get it, but I want to type. Naming any braille display or bluetooth keyboard needing to be pressed on the display or physical keyboard is useless to this inquiry. On 10/21/12, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, that's great and I hope he got his answer, but the original question stated when the other device such as a keyboard or braille display is not within reach. Therefore he was not looking for a command on the device he said he can't reach to make what he wanted to happen with the on screen keyboard. On 10/21/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: As someone else said, the only way to do it from the phone is to go into settings and turn off blue tooth. You may run into issues pairing up again after doing that. Good luck, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of VaShaun Jones Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When something else has control of my onscreen keyboard Possible, but what if its a bluetooth keyboard that has control in the other room and I don't want to get up to turn it off. How can I do this easily? The braille display was just an example. On Oct 20, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, I thought that there was an eject cord command for Braille displays. I'd suggest opening the keyboard help when you have the display connected and type out various cord commands. I bet that if there is an eject one, it will do what is asked in this thread. I just don't remember what that cord command is since I no longer have a Braille display. However I used to be able to do it from the Braille Sense paired with the iPhone. -- Raul A. Gallegos Chuck Norris was born May 6, 1945. The Nazis surrendered May 7, 1945. Coincidence? Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 10/20/2012 9:42 PM, Richard Turner wrote: There is nothing to do with a braille display, but if it is a QWERTY keyboard, the upper right most key is usually the hide or unhide keyboard key. On the Apple wireless keyboard and the AmazonBasics, that is the key. I wish there was a way on braille displays other than turning them off. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of VaShaun Jones Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 6:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: When something else has control of my onscreen keyboard Listers is there a tap or something I can do when another device has my onscreen keyboard. For example my braille display or wireless keyboard. I find this happens allot and I'm far enough away from the device that has control that I don't want to move to get it, but I want to type. What a man to do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from
Re: downgrade
Sounds like you mightwant to put more effort and research in to why your IOS device is not able to connect to the thermostat. The easy answer of downgrade the IOS has a closed door. It sounds like there are unknown variables as to why it may not be connecting with it. It doesn't sound like you have actually made any connection with it with any device or computer at all or have you connected a device running IOS 5 to it? Could it be a configuration issue? What happens when you try to connect to it in the way you are suppose to and what is suppose to happen instead of what does happen? Yes it is unfortunate that Apple does not allow downgrading and selecting your IOS version, but it is understandable in that they likely don't want to have to support configurations involving any IOS version someone might be running. On 10/21/12, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Pablo, First of all, how do you know that it would work under iOS 5? I have 3 WiFi thermostats and I use iOS 6 and it works perfectly fine. Now, here is what I think maybe is your problem and this is something that nothing to do with Apple and everything with your WiFi router or access point. When I first installed my WiFi thermostat I used an older Netgear Wireless Access Point which supported only the WEP security protocol. I was not able to successfully setupt the WiFi thermostat because of this. I then bought an Airport Express and used the more recent and much more secure WPA/WPA2 protocol and my thermostat setup went without a hitch. I know for a fact that this was the problem because I had the same Netgear Wireless Access Point at my business and I had the same problem, I replaced it with an Airport Express and it's no problem. The setup is somewhat involved and I would certainly not have been able to do it without sighted help and the physical installation of the thermostat in my case required the installer to run a new cable from my furnace to the thermostat because the WiFi thermostat needs a 24 Volt power connection to power the WiFi module, the alternative is to install it near a regular wall power outlet and use an AC adapter to power the thermostat, but then you do of course have a cable dangling from the thermostat down the wall to the outlet and it's a much cleaner way to use a 4-conductor cable where 1 lead is used to deliver the 24 Volts from the appropriate terminal on your HVac or furnace. Once the thermostat is installed, you put in batteries which are for the case of power failures and you test that everything works you have to use the iPhone app to connect the thermostat. Among other things you have to enter a 5-digit pairing code which is displayed on the thermostat, once again, if you have no vision at all there is no way to complete this without sighted help. I have no idea where you are at, whether you have installed the unit correctly and all that. You first have to go into Settings and WiFi on your iPhone and connect directly to your thermostat, it will initially show up as it's own network and it is named Thermostat and a string of numbers. After you are successfully connected you then open the Radio Thermostat app and here you follow the steps and at some point you are presented with a list of available WiFi networks to connect to. Here you pick your WiFi and this is where the security protocol is important. If your access point uses WEP it will show up and I think it will even ask for the password, but it will not connect. As soon as I changed my access point and set up my WiFi using WPA/WPA2 I entered my WiFi password and the setup process continued as expected. Once you are connected to your WiFi from within the app you then have to go back to the WiFi in the Settings app and reconnect to your own home WiFi, then go back to the app and continue. You also do have to set up an account on the Radio Thermostat website and you will need your user name and password during the setup. Installing and connecting one of these is not extremely difficult, but neither is it super easy and it definitely requires a reasonable understanding on how this sort of thing works and you have to follow the instructions. Having sighted assistance is necessary at various points and definitely useful if you have it from start to finish. It's been well over a year since I connected mine so I can't recall all the steps exactly, but it was frustrating at first for me as well until I realized I needed new access points. As I said, this has nothing to do with iOS 6 or Apple, it's just that most new devices do not support WEP anymore because it is not nearly as secure as WPA/WPA2. Now having said all that, my thermostat at home and the 2 at my business (each floor of my retail store has separate furnaces) are up and running and have never stopped working perfectly and I just wanted to mention that so you know you have something good to look forward to once you have
Re: When something else has control of my onscreen keyboard
I think what he was asking though is if there is a way with just the IPhone in hand to release the other device from having the keyboard so that he can get back his on screen keyboard without having to reach for the device such as a braille display or bluetooth keyboard that has the on screen keyboard locked away in a hidden state. I think the only way to do what I just described and tried to make clear is to go and turn off bluetooth. That may or may not have other consequences not wanted at that time, but I think that is the only option in the situation described. Jim On 10/20/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, I thought that there was an eject cord command for Braille displays. I'd suggest opening the keyboard help when you have the display connected and type out various cord commands. I bet that if there is an eject one, it will do what is asked in this thread. I just don't remember what that cord command is since I no longer have a Braille display. However I used to be able to do it from the Braille Sense paired with the iPhone. -- Raul A. Gallegos Chuck Norris was born May 6, 1945. The Nazis surrendered May 7, 1945. Coincidence? Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 10/20/2012 9:42 PM, Richard Turner wrote: There is nothing to do with a braille display, but if it is a QWERTY keyboard, the upper right most key is usually the hide or unhide keyboard key. On the Apple wireless keyboard and the AmazonBasics, that is the key. I wish there was a way on braille displays other than turning them off. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of VaShaun Jones Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 6:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: When something else has control of my onscreen keyboard Listers is there a tap or something I can do when another device has my onscreen keyboard. For example my braille display or wireless keyboard. I find this happens allot and I'm far enough away from the device that has control that I don't want to move to get it, but I want to type. What a man to do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: recording phone calls with List Recorder
I also thought they disabled the microphone from recording during a call. Either we are incorrect or this is a wanted bug! Let's keep it pretty quiet. On 10/20/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, I think this would be that the recorder is recording the output of the speaker phone. I think it's neat that it worked because I thought that Apple disabled the microphone from recording while a phone call is in progress. So, the fact that it worked is rather an interesting discovery. -- Raul A. Gallegos The search engine Google got its name from the word googol, which refers to the number one with a hundred zeros after it. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 10/20/2012 8:31 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Listers, Recently I needed to record information being given to me over the phone. I opened List Recorder while the phone was in speaker phone mode. to my surprise when I started recording I found I was able to get a very respectable recording of the entire conversation. Has anyone found this works in Skype as well? I'm sure it will not work with earphones but still I thought this was a handy discovery. Eric Caron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: voiceover during a call
If VO is speaking the duration of a call during the call, you need to touch something else on the screen so it is not focused on the duration field that keeps changing. This is likely your issue with it continuing to speak your call duration. Have you tried touching something else on the screen? On 10/19/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote: Yes I've come across this before too. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: 19 October 2012 21:25 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voiceover during a call I have seen this issue in my iPhone 4, and it happen with the numbers, or just using the keyboard. Some times it doesn't say the letter or number, so I need to delete something, to make sure that I wrote, or if I need to retype a number or word. But the worse part is every time when I receive a called, voice over keep saying the duration of the called, and It doesn't allow me to talk, because I have voice over talking so loud and I can't understand what the person on the call is saying. Pablo - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 2:58 PM Subject: Re: voiceover during a call I am experiencing some strange volume issues on my iPhone 5 with VO as well. VO is loud enough, but not all numbers are spoken when I find them on the phone. Sometimes the numbers take a moment or two to be spoken by VO and other times they are spoken as soon as I touch them. I am also not hearing the touch tones when I press a number on the phone, after the call connects and goes through. I recall hearing the touch tones and the numbers being spoken all the time in iOS 5, but I've had trouble with this since I've been using the iPhone 5 with iOS 6. I've had the new phone for about 9 days and am still getting used to everything. I have used iOS 6 on an iPhone 4 and don't recall having these issues. The issues don't happen all the time, but they do happen often enough. Regards, Wayne On 10/13/12, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: it is the case that is causing the problem. The case was on my 3gs *** character is found in how you treat people who can't do anything for you. web page http://www.wrighthere.net - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:22 AM Subject: RE: voiceover during a call Hi Robert, I just send a reply to Apple Accessibility about Voiceover volume during a call. I reported this to them and they replied with some suggestions, but they only consisted of the explanation about how to make sure speakerphone mode is properly activated which means they thought somehow the phone hadn't switched to speakerphone and this is why I couldn't hear Voiceover. I have no problem with my phone switching to speakerphone when I take it away from my ear. I am not sure if you have your phone in a case, but make sure you try it without case as sometimes a case can cover the proximity sensor and that is what causes your phone to switch to speakerphone. I usually do this: I dial the number I want to call and after I double tap on call I put my hand over the top part of the phone where the slot is in the glass for the earpiece. Once the phone on the other end starts ringing I remove my hand and now the proximity sensor should of course notice nothing is covering it and switch to speakerphone. However, I still have the volume issue. I have volume in my rotor settings and after a call connects I can turn up VO volume to 100% by turning the rotor to Volume and then flicking up until I get to 100%. Then I turn down the call volume to as low as it will go with the volume down button, but first of all the call volume does not seem to go lower than a certain level and Voiceover even at 100% can hardly be heard over the call volume. You can of course work around this by using a headset, but I definitely suggest you write to Apple Accessibility and report this because it seems to be one of those bugs which most iPhone 5 users and some iPhone 4S and 4 users also don't seem to have. I did a factory reset about 3 days after I updated to iOS 6 because of a few other issues and at first this seemed to be better, but after I tried to place calls where I had to enter numbers, listen to menus etc. a few times I find it really isn't much better if at all. As far as I am concerned this is one of the more inconvenient and serious bugs because one has to enter numbers or listen to menus so often and of course I also can't put the phone in speakerphone and look up other information during a call such as maybe a phone number, something in an email or another app. It would be interesting to know how many people
Re: Subtle noise when shaking iPhone 5?
So in other words there is some play in the home button that makes it rattle in this theory or answer? On 10/19/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, I asked about this and what's being heard is the slight space between the home button and the body of the phone. -- Raul A. Gallegos I was totally stumped when someone asked me what the word 'ham' would sound like without any vowels. hmmm I thought to myself. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 10/19/2012 5:00 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi all, I've heard of people receiving iPhone 5 units, shaking them, and hearing disconcerting noises as though little pieces are moving around inside the phone. Well, I wouldn't describe the rattle on my new iPhone 5 as really a big deal, but there's definitely a subtle clicking noise that I hear when shaking the phone. Have others experienced this? Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: battery life and i phone 4s using ios 6.0
Well it sounds like you may have had some success in closing out something that was in the app switcher that may have been running in some way that it shouldn't have been. Some apps seem to at times misbehave like that. I guess the other thing to say is that a battery drain is not a universal issue with IOS 6 and so if you are having excessive battery drain, it should be able to be traced back to something about your phone. It's unfortunate this issue strikes some with every new version of IOS that comes out. Sometimes it is just a bad or corrupt installation of something. So that's good and frustrating in a way at the same time. Good luck and I hope you have already eliminated the problem. Tracing such issues is no fun. Jim On 10/16/12, Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com wrote: My phone is typically locked. I do get push notifications. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: www.facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: www.facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: trouble with syncing iPhone with iTunes in Windows
Hi Raul, Unfortunately I don't have a complete answer, but I have also had the sync services error happening sometimes when I connect and other times not. It started with ITunes 10.7 for me, but I have found google results Apple Forum discussions that say this goes way back to about the beginning of time as far as the IPhone and ITunes goes. I read some posts that some people had some luck with repairing ITunes and others deleted or renamed the Sync Services folder and let ITunes recreate it in the account upon launch. In Windows 7 it is under \users\user name\AppData\... and then Apple Computers . I'm sorry, I don't think I have the exact path right, but it is easy to find browsing around there. You have to type in \users\user name\AppData though in the run box where user name is the user name of the account on the machine because if you stop short of typing the \AppData part you won't ever get it to show what you need to browse to. That may or may not be true for you. Jim On 10/15/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi all. I've done the extensive Google search, forum reading, and Apple Support web site reading and I'm still stumped. Here goes. I have an iPhone 4S iOS 5.1.1. My wife this weekend purchased an iPhone 4S iOS 6.0. We use one desktop computer with Windows 7 on it. I have a user account and she has a user account. When I am in my own user account I can connect my iPhone and her iPhone to the computer, open iTunes and sync. Although I haven't done the syncing with her phone, I know it works because the phone is seen just fine and I can make changes to it, ETC. Now read on for the weirdness. If I go into her Windows account, open iTunes and connect her phone in, it takes a very long time for iTunes to recognize the phone. When it does eventually, I get an error that the sync services from the provider or the server were unable to load and to try again later. I disconnect her phone and sometimes even have to kill all the iTunes processes. I do the same on her account with my iPhone and get the same results. Now, because I know that I can sync my phone on my account, and her phone is seen by iTunes in my account, and because I know that under her account, none of the 2 phones is seen and we get the sync services error, this tells me it's something specific with her account which is preventing iTunes from doing what it needs to do. As far as Windows is concerned, the phones are seen just fine because we get the option to open the folder and see the pictures in them just like with all iPhones. This is in her account as well as mine. As I mentioned before, I've read all the forums I can think of, reinstalled iTunes, and even removed her account completely, and recreated it and even made it an admin account and still, the same error happens. So, that's why I'm writing here. I would like to see if anyone's come across this and what, if any solution was found. Since she has her own Apple ID and I have my own, I didn't want to start using my account to sync her phone onto, but I will find a way to do that if I have to at least for the backups. Plus, she wants to put music on her phone, and I don't blame her. It's not my fault she doesn't appreciate Songza, Pandora, and AudioGalaxy grin. When we are in her account and connect her phone, visually it shows the phone in devices, but the progress bar is moving constantly, showing it's doing what it needs to do to see the phone. Using Window-Eyes I cannot gain focus to her phone in the devices because it's not yet available. This is how I can tell that iTunes does see her phone, but some driver, or service isn't doing what it needs to in order for the phone to be accessible from the devices tab. So, I'm fresh out of ideas. I even suggested to her to just install iTunes on her netbook and let's try it from there, but we wanted to not do that since iTunes will run painfully slow on her netbook, and besides that, my 500 thousand or more songs are on the main computer, not her netbook, and as I mentioned before, she wants music from there. Ideas, thoughts? I'm up to trying something new. I haven't yet called Apple because I know they will ask me to try these things first anyway, and I didn't want to waste their time. -- Raul A. Gallegos I accidentally locked my coat hanger in my car today. Luckily for me- I had my keys. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because
Airport express or extreme as a wireless and airplay solution?
Hi, I have some questions about how to configure if I would like to set up the option os using either and Apple Airport Express ore Airport Extreme for my wireless networking including the ability to do air play. I have an understanding at a pretty high level of the concepts involved, I know how to set up and configure my own DSL router and I understand what most of the networking concepts mean and what they do. I was wondering if there is someone on this list that would be willing to contact me and help me to understand exactly how I would need to configure things. Here would be my delemma. My DSL router, which I currently use for wired and wireless has NAT (network address translation) of course. The issue would be how to avoid double NAT. I think in one option where I just add the airport to the nework plugged into one of the wired ports on the router directly, it would just be joining it to the current wireless network and give it an address from the DSL router and would be capable of being an air play device on the network. My guess is in that configuration that I would in some way have to disable most of the wifi stuff on the airport? I am not quite sure what that configuration would look like. I should say I don't have the airport just yet. I could go out and buy one if this would work. In the other configuration which I would like to have the option of doing, I would use the airport to handel my wireless networking and of course it would need the DSL router to be able to access my ISP and actually give me internet. My DSL router has the option of turning off NAT, but says not to do it because I guess the entire router configuration would be accessible from just the public IP address. It has a password on it, but still... Probably not a good idea, right? How else would one avoid double NAT though? How do people do this if they want to? I'm pretty sure the airport is not capable of being a DSL router in itself. Thanks to anyone willing to help me out in understanding this. Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Focus Problems With iOS 6
Yep, that's what it does now. In IOS 6 it has stopped retaining focus information when going back to a previous screen. It only started to be able to retain this information a few IOS versions ago, I don't remember which one, but its current behavior has reverted to before that was enhanced. Probably the best way is to touch somewhere on the screen that might be close to where you want to be and then explore for the correct spot or swipe to it from there. No configuration options are going to put back what you are missing right now. On 10/14/12, Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Hi all, I don't recall if this has been discussed but I'm having focus problems with VoiceOver using iOS6. I searched the archives for information but without any luck. Whenever I move from one screen to another and then back to the original page, focus is returned to the top of the screen. An example of this is writing a message and selecting to add an address from the contacts list. When returning from the contacts list, focus is moved to the top of the message screen. This is time consuming and annoying. Is this a problem with iOS6? Have I set some values incorrectly in settings? Any help is greatly appreciated. Take care, Ed Przybylek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Focus Problems With iOS 6
I think it's a bug and not an intentional change. To say the least, Apple makes it clear they do not do complete testing of what does and does not work. So many things too numerous to count that should be caught and are not prove that over and over and over again. I am not beating up on accessibility exclusively at all. On 10/14/12, Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to know their reasons for going back to the previous approach. Oh, well. Thanks. Take care, Ed Przybylek -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VoiceOver Focus Problems With iOS 6 Yep, that's what it does now. In IOS 6 it has stopped retaining focus information when going back to a previous screen. It only started to be able to retain this information a few IOS versions ago, I don't remember which one, but its current behavior has reverted to before that was enhanced. Probably the best way is to touch somewhere on the screen that might be close to where you want to be and then explore for the correct spot or swipe to it from there. No configuration options are going to put back what you are missing right now. On 10/14/12, Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Hi all, I don't recall if this has been discussed but I'm having focus problems with VoiceOver using iOS6. I searched the archives for information but without any luck. Whenever I move from one screen to another and then back to the original page, focus is returned to the top of the screen. An example of this is writing a message and selecting to add an address from the contacts list. When returning from the contacts list, focus is moved to the top of the message screen. This is time consuming and annoying. Is this a problem with iOS6? Have I set some values incorrectly in settings? Any help is greatly appreciated. Take care, Ed Przybylek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone Cases
I just received today the model that covers the back and sides. This one is called the Tech21 Impact Snap case for IPhone 5. As I say, I just received it and put it on, but so far I do like it. My only question and possible concern so far is not one unique to this case in any way that is not a factor of others, but that most of the case is made of polycarbonate, which in my understanding is a form of plastic? and the thing I wondered about is if that is in fact like plastic in its heat trapping properties, if it will allow the IPhone to have enough exposure to be able to sufficiently cool when it heats up from higher intensity processes. I do wonder if anyone has any insight about that. I'm sure experience will reveal the reality. If an IPhone can survive pretty much being sealed off from the world almost within the Otter Box, I guess this would be the same to a lesser degree than that though. So as not to confuse anybody, the D3o material is in at least two strips that run up and down the long edges of the case. I guess the idea is if this material hardens, it will take the impact and the other part of the surface area of the case will not take a direct hit. As mentioned in another reply, this case is pleasing in that it does not add a lot of bulk to do the job. It also doesn't feel or look really cheap either. It is pretty nice to the touch when on the phone especially. Of course it is right against the metal of the phone so there is that solid backing there, although the case feels respectibly solid for sure even before you put it on the phone when you take it out of the package. Make no mistake though, it would not feel as nice if this was entirely what the phone external casing was made of from the factory with no metal involved. Plenty of phones on the market are exactly that or worse. Sometimes much worse. The case does not get in the way of any buttons or ports. They are all cut out and it is not the type of case that puts any of its own covers over any buttons to push them through. In my opinion that is a very good thing that it does not do that. I don't want to push buttons through a case's plastic coverings. My preference. Finally, I have come across youtube videos for a Tech21 case that is said to be entirely real leather with the D3o in it and of course an internal lining and it is said to be very nice. It is a flip case. I can not find it anywhere though, I could not even get it to come up in a search result searching on the Tech21 site. None of its reviews were done by anyone in the US though that I found and they only referenced a place to get it in the UK. I emailed Tech21 about that, to ask about its availability, we'll see if I get a response. A response won't be til next week at the earliest though as I just sent the email a few hours ago. Jim On 10/8/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Rick, These add all but nothing, there are, as I have said, three models; a bumper style like the ones Apple sell for the 4 and 4S, then there's a back only and sides, and finally a back sides and leather front flap. None of the three models add to the weight, size or bulk in anyway that is displeasing to me. Usually cases add quite a bit, or enough to notice. The thing that really impressed me about these cases is the new technology in the D3O impact proofing. On 5 Oct 2012, at 16:03, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote: Neil, Do you have any knowledge of how much bulk these cases would add to the phone? One thing I really like about the snap on TPU cases is that they add practically no bulk at all to the phone. Not as much protection as many other cases but the beauty of the phone is maintained while feeling good in the hand. Best, Rick -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 7:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; The Accessible Phones Discussion List Subject: iPhone Cases To all of you with an iPhone 5, or indeed with other devices including iPhone 4S etc. I was, like many struggling to find a good quality case. The Tech21 case is beyond brilliant, it is the first case that I really have felt will do a perfect job of protecting my phone. Tech21 cases use a new military developed material called D3O to line their cases, when in its normal state the material is gel like, when impacted though, it becomes like a solid mesh. This mesh like effect spreads the impact and causes significantly less impact related damage. I've done a lot of reading around this subject, and the D3O substance is simply amazing. Tech21 make a back cover only, back and front flap which is vertical i.e. opens like a book, and also a band design which is like the Apple iPHone bumper case. All certainly seem to be available from Amazon. I cannot recommend this more highly to anyone serious about protecting their device.
Re: Lag when unlocking screen on iPone 4s after IOS 6 install
I did not notice this when I had a 16GB IPhone that I had installed IOS 6 on. I did not do over the air. It seems both that people that did over the air generally are reporting more problems and that everybody experiences different issues that others do not. On the bright side, a lag when unlocking would be a minor issue compared to if it were the same or worse lag when using after unlocking. I think we are lucky when the issues are minor because they haven't released any version yet free of any issues and I'm betting that will never happen either. Jim On 10/8/12, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I've got an 8 GB iPhone 4 running iOS6 and I sometimes get a lag when unlocking the screen. Rebooting the phone doesn't help either. -- Shawn Sent from my white MacBook using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: [Maccessibility] Hide Newsstand In A Folder On iOS 6 With One Click, No Jailbreak Required
Using windows and IE 8, I tried clicking on the link and got a page not found error. So I tried moving it as you would any other app, wondering if I would uncover that they were simply pointing out that you could do that in the usual way with this item now too, but no such luck. Hmmm, they must be pointing out some other trick. Would be nice to stuff it away somewhere I would never look at it, but no big deal either. On 10/8/12, Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com wrote: I couldn't find it either On Oct 8, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochelea...@gmail.com wrote: Um... am I missing something or does this post not contain the actual steps on how to do this? -Marc On 10/8/12, Maccessibility nore...@maccessibility.net wrote: Maccessibility has posted a new item, 'Hide Newsstand In A Folder On iOS 6 With One Click, No Jailbreak Required' You may view the latest post at http://maccessibility.net/2012/10/08/hide-newsstand-in-a-folder-on-ios-6-with-one-click-no-jailbreak-required/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- “There is no shame in being who you are. There’s only shame in not going down swinging to protect it” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 6.0 VoiceOver Recent Call Bug Detected
Probably it is a matter of oopinion. Ok, I understand your question really implys was it changed on purpose or an unintended result of something. It seems to me it is such a minor thing and I'm sure the accessibility team have tons and tons and tons of emails. It may not be worth everyone flooding them with emails on this little thing too. I also wonder if anyone has confirmed with someone what visually is indicated on a missed call verses an unsuccessful outgoing call. I don't know if it is an icon or a text label. If a mislabeled icon, probably really easy for them to correct. Jim On 10/7/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote: Is this a bug, or just a change of behaviour? Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: 25 September 2012 04:42 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 6.0 VoiceOver Recent Call Bug Detected Hello All, While I'm almost certain this has been discussed here on the list, I just noticed a VoiceOver Bug. If you can reproduce the bug, I strongly encourage you to either send a comment to accessibil...@apple.com or to call their accessibility number which is: 877-204-3930. Feel free to use any part of the following should you decide to send them an email: Mark iOS 6.0 VoiceOver Recent Call Bug Detected Hello, In iOS 6.0, there is a VoiceOver bug on the recent Call screen in the Phone App. The bug is that VoiceOver mistakenly announces missed call items as being Unsuccessful call items. To reproduce the bug, do the following: 1. Do not answer an incoming call. 2. Open the Phone App. 3. Select the Recent tab. 4. Browse the call list and VoiceOver will announce that the call you did not answer was Unsuccessful instead of Missed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: High Quality headphones for an iPhone.
Their quality is ok and good for a cheap set of earbuds, but you won't mistake them for good headphones and they are not a cheap way to get something that should be more expensive. I also agree that they are not all that comfortable. They are better in all of the ways listed above than the previous earbuds. Of course others opinions may differ. Jim On 10/6/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty good quality, but not very comfortable, JMO Kliphton-SR (twitterSkype) kliphton72 )(iMessage, FaceTimeEmail) kliph...@gmail.com (life journal) kliphton.wordpress.com http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie Sent from Minister Miller's iPhone5 On Oct 5, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote: Actualy, I have heard that the ear pods that come with the new iPhone are pretty good. Andy -Original Message- From: Jim Noseworthy Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 4:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: High Quality headphones for an iPhone. On 10/5/2012 8:26 AM, curmudgeon580 wrote: hello how much do you want spend?? Well, I'm not sure. I would like to hear anyone's suggestion since I hope that this will be a one-time purchase. I heard the Bowers Wilkins and the Bose on-ear headsets. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Jim Noseworthy Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 4:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: High Quality headphones for an iPhone. Hi Gang: I am looking for high quality headphones designed for an iPhone. Any thoughts? Thanks all over the place gang. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A new bug In IOS 6 when in the App Switcher.
I agree. This wording makes sense and there is no reason for different wording that just takes longer to speak. Really, once you know what it does and you know you are in the app switcher, it will not cause any problem. It will not delete it from the phone. It would make no sense for it to delete it from the phone in the app switcher. If it did that would be a serious bug. To really make a big deal of this, when it makes sense and you can be familiar with what it says and does, is seriously rediculous nitpicking in my opinion. On 10/4/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, as others have said, it's been around forever. It's saying it will delete it from the app switcher. I mean, what's the difference between remove and delete? I can see where it might be confusing to a novice, but if you know you are in the app switcher, then the message double-tap to delete makes perfect sense and I for one hope they don't change it. -- Raul A. Gallegos AIBOHPHOBIA (n.) the fear of palindromes Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 10/4/2012 6:34 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello All. I believe I've found a new bug in IOS6 when using the App switcher. As you all know some of us when going to switch the I phone off, get rid of the Apps from the memory. Well, was doing this just now and after opening App Switcher, double tap and held until the noise was heard. Normally Voice Over would say double tap to remove app from switcher. This time Voice Over said, double tap to delete. I have never seen this before. I am using I phone 5. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Hidden text in E-mail messages
I believe it is to avoid downloading a long message unless you want it completely downloaded. So it saves time and data if there is a lot of it and you may not want it. Jim On 10/2/12, Peggy Fleischer peninnah.fleisc...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in this cooking list you are on. Could you please Email me off list with more info? Thanks. On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Lynn Schneider canepri...@gmail.com wrote: I am on a cooking list for the blind and occasionally, someone posts messages where VO will say hidden text. I just double tap on it and the recipe text comes up, but I'm curious to know what hidden text is and why it is hidden in the first place. Thanks in advance for any insights. Lynn Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: BT keyboard oddity
Hi, It makes sense that after turning it off with the keyboard that you would not be able to turn it back on with the keyboard. This is because the voiceover command, VO-H that you used by pressing it 3 times quickly, simulating pressing the home button 3 times quickly, is a voiceover command. I do not believe that any voiceover commands are recognized when voiceover is not running. So therefore of course the phone recognizes that you are pressing its actual home button when you go over to the phone and press it, however without voiceover actually running, it can not recognize VO-H as a press of the home button because voiceover is not running. Jim On 10/1/12, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: That's not weird because vo-h activates the home button. Now I can also turn off VoiceOver on the iPhone with 3 presses of the escape key! This is because iKeyboard uses the escape key to activate the home button! Not sure if I can turn it on though. Hope so. On 01/10/2012 07:34, Frank Ventura wrote: This is weird and I never noticed it before. If you are using a BT keyboard and hit VO H three times fast it turns off VO just as if you pressed the home button three times quickly. Weird thing is that other then getting up and walking to the iPhone I cant find a way of turning it back on from the keyboard. Frank Ventura Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com mailto:frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com Voicemail: 781 492-4262 Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.com mailto:frankmvent...@mac.com *Sent from my Mac Book Air* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality
It is also a much better experience for call quality using the phone as well. The sound from the speaker is a little better because there is a larger speaker there to deliver the sound. The quality of the sound that comes out sounds a little fuller, but don't expect to be blown away like it will sound like a hifi or something. We are still talking about voice over a cellular call here. It is an enjoyable improvement in experience though. What helps a lot is the microphone differences with the extra microphones and how they improved how the microphone system works. In my experience on a 4 or 4s most voice response systems were not all that usable most of the time using speaker phone. On the 5 they have worked fine using speaker phone. The really amazing part is that you don't even have to hold the phone right up close to your mouth for it to work either. So that is a real nice improvement. On 10/1/12, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, Thanks for the interesting observation. Can you give us an idea of which carriers the people were using? Grant On 10/1/12, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Les, I can only speak from the perspective of being on the listening end of an iPhone 5 connection as I do not own one. I have experienced superior call quality when the iPhone 5 caller is or is not using the iPhone 5 speaker phone. By the way, I noticed a vast improvement when iPhone 5 caller uses the new Ear Pods, as well. This weekend, I went to the Apple store and purchased a pair for my iPhone 4 S. Those with whom I have spoken, via my new Ear Pods report a definite increase in both call volume and quality as a result. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality Mark, I'm curious. How do you find the quality of the call when you are on speaker. I have a for ass and I've had many difficulties using the speakerphone. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:02 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, To date, I have had no fewer than 10 conversations with 7 people via their new iPhone 5s. I am amazed at the outstanding voice call quality of the iPhone 5 as heard from my end. Simply stated, I was unable to tell that they were not on a land-line. Regardless of the hardware difference, iOS bugs, etc, the iPHone 5 is, in my opinion, a superior product in terms of wireless call quality. Bravo to Apple on this feature. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Face TIme over 3G for those who live in the U.S
ATT needs to be told, probably by a court and slapped with it, that data is data and charging for a specific use of that data which does not constitute anything other than using data is a money grab and they d*mn well know it. Jim On 10/1/12, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: FaceTime is available over Verizon, and so is skype. I don't have Verizon myself, but I FaceTimed with someone over Verizon LTE today. I personally think what ATT is doing is complete crap, and something needs to be done about it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 5:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face TIme over 3G for those who live in the U.S Thanks Mark, but I would still like for someone on VZW to confirm if Face TIme is available and also if anyone has found that Skype does not work over the cellular network because it is blocked. Everything I have been able to find indicates Skype is not a problem over 3G. On Oct 1, 2012, at 4:48 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Bravo, Scott. I will file a complaint, as well. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 12:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Face TIme over 3G for those who live in the U.S Hi all, Anyone who has ATT without a shared data plan is likely aware they cannot use Face TIme over the 3G network. Although I do not believe I would use Face TIme for general conversation, I believe there are cases where it may be valuable. Obviously there are services such as Skype which apparently ATT does not block. Now with that said I decided to file a complaint with the FCC which is the regulatory agency for all things related to communications such as wireless etc. in the United States. I decided to file the complaint because there is no technical reason for ATT to block Face TIme over the 3G network and especially if they do not block Skype. My understanding is that Verizon Wireless does not block Face Time and mor does Sprint. I believe that ATT has taken this position for one of two reasons and one of which is surely monetary. So, why do I bring this up? Because I wanted to let anyone who has considered filing a complaint that ATT will respond. The best part is I have received an initial verbal response which is exactly what I expected. THe conversation can be best summed up as to bad. There was absolutely no point in having a conversation with ATT because despite the fact I pointed out the obvious fact they do not block Skype or any other VOIP service or placed any special restrictions on such services, they have blocked Face Time. I even pointed out how Face TIme could be useful in some circumstances for an individual with a visual impairment which incidentally is a true statement. So, I anticipate that although ATT has taken this position for now they will continue to face a great deal of pressure from individuals and groups to change their position. The good thing is there are other avenues and options. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone
Re: Aluminum versus Glass iPHone, Just a Comment
I found the 4 and 4s to be slippery in my hand and being heavy didn't help that. I am not doubting what others are saying for them, just speaking of my experience. What I hate about cases most of the time is that the either feel cheap and probably look it too and or add too much bulk for my liking. I think we have unique or almost so value in the IPhone in that in itself does not feel cheap. Most other manufacturers' phones unbelievably are encased in cheap plastic. Paying that much for a device and for it to be made of cheap plastic in the name of somebody's profit screams rip off in my opinion. If it did what you needed and others didn't though it would be a trade off maybe without a choice. So I am only interested in cases that equal or add value to the look and feel as well as protection. My favorite choice for that is a high quality leather. Jim On 10/1/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I have yet to drop my iPhone either, and other than a water protective bag I put it in when I go kayaking, I don't have a case on it. I like the feel and slenderness of the phone itself. I don't find it to be too slippery in my hands, but when I rest it on a pant leg, such as when I'm sitting in the car, it does slide around a bit. I'm not a big fan of the look and feel of some of the other cell phones, but sometimes I think a rubberized back might be nice to make the phone a bit stickier. On 01/10/12 17:41, Cheryl Homiak wrote: I had a 3gs without a case and a 4S without a case (i still have the 4S). The 4S dropped twice accidentally but actually not when I was holding it and it wasn't harmed at all though i realize it could have been. I have always been puzzled by all the comments about how slippery the phones were as I never have felt insecure holding mine; i usually hold in one hand and perform actions with the other and am not good at two-thumbs maneuvering across the keyboard. At any rate, i've always liked holding them in my hand and have had no catastrophes. That isn't at all to say that that shouldn't happen to people; I'm just saying that I've loved holding mine that way. i just now put a very simple case on my iPhone 5 and if they made this for the 4S I would consider getting it to use in certain situations. But I think I will always love the feel of the naked phone in my hand. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:53 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hi Phillip, You know, I have heard so many people say that they used to drop their glass finished iPhones. In fact, the web is replete with such complaints from all over the world. To date, I have yet to drop my glass finished iPhone. I am clearly the odd-man out on this issue. (smile). Oh well, it's nice to be unique (even bigger smile). Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com http://googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PHILLIP TRACY Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 12:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Aluminum versus Glass iPHone, Just a Comment I'm sorry to say, that my opinion is exact and completely opposite yours. Everything you said about the 4S, I didn't like. I am extremely happy with the new iPhone 5's design. I dropped my 4S all the time, and I have yet to drop the five. I believe it's much lighter and much better design. It is not flimsy, but very sturdy. I'm sorry you felt differently. Phillip Tracy Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 1, 2012, at 1:41 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, I was in my local A T T Wireless Store assisting a friend in upgrading her iPhone 4 to an iPHone 4 S. While we were waiting for a representative, I took the opportunity to explore iPHone 5, again. You know what? NO matter how much Apple tries to spin it, the iPHone 5 feels like a more cheaply made device than the 4 or the 4 S. Say what you will but there is something special about that glass finish that is lost with iPHone 5. Perhaps most people keep their phones in a case so it matters little to them but to me, what put iPHone a cut above the rest has been lost with iPhone 5, in terms of tactile satisfaction. Also, from a visual perspective, the aluminum, to my poor old eyes anyway, lacks that special sparkling gleam that made me so glad I own an iPhone. For the first time in my wireless life, I am so happy I do not have the latest and greatest. As is always the case, this is just my opinion so please be kind (Smile). Making a Joyful Noise, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To
Re: Verizon LTE is a battery hog.
How do you calculate? If 25 minutes = 10% then 250 minutes = 100% and 250/60 is about 4.1. In theory though that means that much time of doing whatever she was doing constantly using that amount of power. On 9/30/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: I gather then, you also locked the phone once you got on the bus? If so, then figuring 25 minutes equals 10 percent of your battery would mean a little over six hours of battery life. That is better than the 4S was when it first came out, but not a big improvement either. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Verizon LTE is a battery hog. I completely get where you're coming from. It was about 25 minutes, and I cleared the app switcher once I got on the bus, so nothing was needlessly running in the background and potentially draining the battery further. Allison On Sep 29, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: For those of us who do not have the iPhone 5, I wonder if when battery issues are discussed, if people could specify actual time spent, rather than leaving it in generalities? I'm not picking at you, but this is a good example. You were waiting for a bus and did some light news checking and browsing--is that for 2 minutes or 20 minutes and did that continue while on the bus, etc. It is hard to gauge if we are talking about real battery drainage issues, or what without knowing how much time resulted in 10 percent battery use. Thanks, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 1:35 PM To: Viphone@Googlegroups.Com Viphone@Googlegroups.Com Subject: Verizon LTE is a battery hog. Hi everyone. The subject basically says it all. The other day, I was waiting for the bus and did some light browsing and news checking on my iPhone 5. When I got to work, I noticed that my battery had drained 10 percent from 100 to 90. I also notice that the battery drains even when I'm doing nothing with LTE available. I always clear the app switcher after I finish doing something, bluetooth is almost always turned off, and my screen curtain is always on. Furthermore, when I'm on WiFi, I don't notice nearly as significant of a drain. Do any other iPhone five users who have LTE available notice this? Thanks. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Still trouble with email Can not delete mail
Sounds like you may want to go to the Apple store if you can or call Apple care if you have that and only that option and ask them what in your configuration is causing your mail to do what it is doing. There should be some setting or detail or characteristic of your provider that is causing it. On 9/30/12, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote: Yes, same for me. Jen From: France's Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 12:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Still trouble with email Can not delete mail The push and delete problems only started after installing iOS 6 Sent from my iPhone On 30 Sep 2012, at 14:09, Melissa Tucker melissatuck...@att.net wrote: I've found another problem with mail on the iphone. I'm not sure if this has been brought up on the list because I'm behind on email. when I delete a nessage, I occationally get a nessage that the system is nable to move the message to the trash folder. I made suure no other computers was getting mail, and that didn't solve the problem. any thoughts on this? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi, I have done all that but my phone still checks for mail when I turn the phone on. Jen From: Ng Choon Hwee Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Still trouble with email Hi, in settings and fetch new data, make sure that push and fetch are all disabled. In the fetch new data section, double tap advance and make sure that all mail accounts are set to manual. Ng Choon Hwee On 27 Sep, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi, I have an iPod touch 4 and an iPhone 4 S. Both have push turned off and check for mail manually. On the iPod touch it does what it is supposed to do but my iPhone still checks for email. What could be the reason for this and how do I fix it? Jen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Accessible Twitter application
I don't use the program right now, but that's strange that it is an IPhone 5 thing. That suggests they must have changed the coding for the IPhone 5 different screen and broken accessibility in some way in that process? If not then it is another one of those random things that happen in some cases and not others with no reasonable explaination known of the cause? On 9/30/12, Scott Van Gorp s_vang...@msn.com wrote: I've been using Tweetlist Pro. Twitterific may be another good option. It's definitely an iPhone 5 thing as I've gotten reports that it's working fine with other iPhone versions running Ios 6. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Lockwood Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:49 AM To: iphone group Subject: Accessible Twitter application Ever Since updating to iOS six in the iPhone five the Twitter application does not seem to be fully accessible. I cannot see a running list of tweet from the people who I follow. What Twitter application do people use? Thanks Jim James H. Lockwood 574-274-4791 jlockw...@alumni.nd.edu Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Disappointed in do not disturb functionality of iPhone five
Yes, but if it were truely muting the phone then if it were not still selective you would get no speech feedback to get out of the muted situation either. That would not be good. Also, here's a thought. How loud do you keep your phone turned up, particularly when you are going to be in those situations? Pressing the volume down button so that you have more of a private listening situation could help if you are going to be embarrasssed by a possible output of speech. Then if it were inserted into your pocket and the volume down at a more private listening level, I bet few if any would hear it and if they did they likely would not think about it or care. So what exactly are you advocating for here in your message? On 9/30/12, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mean to keep harping about this muting thing, but if it were truly muting the phone, it wouldn't say screen locked either. Can you imagine if you're in a meeting, and it's quiet for about 20 seconds, and in that 20 seconds, everyone hears 'screen locked'? How embarrassing would that be? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Disappointed in do not disturb functionality of iPhone five Also, if you ever want to just turn on the do not disturb function without a schedule or at unscheduled times, you can always go into settings and change the status to on in notifications. That sounds like a good work around to me. I agree that there is room to grow. It would be nice for instance to set different quiet hours on weekdays verses weekends. However, what we have is a good start and will hopefully only get better. Wayne On 9/30/12, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi James, I can certainly see where integration Do Not Disturb with the Calendar could have a lot of benefits for certain people. For now keep in mind that you can always just flick the mute switch for a meeting, in iOS 6 muting the phone will not only mute the ringer and alerts, but it will also ensure Voiceover will not start babbling away if you have an alert or push notification. It truly mutes the phone and that is a very nice improvement. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Lockwood Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:51 PM To: iphone group Subject: Disappointed in do not disturb functionality of iPhone five When I first heard about the scheduling function in do not disturb on the iPhone five I thought that it would allow you to schedule the phone to ignore calls at certain .periods during a certain day. However the application only allowed you to establish quiet hours during which calls will be ignored every single day. However the do not disturb function would be a lot more useful if it allowed you to set different times for different days. For example if I know I have a court appearance tomorrow at 2 o'clock it would be very useful for the phone to have a function in which I can schedule the program to block calls during that time. Then the following day if I have a meeting at 1 o'clock I can set the phone to ignore calls for that time as well. It could be a checkmark option when scheduling an event in the calendar. Therefore you would never have to worry about your phone accidentally being left on and going off in an important meeting. When you schedule the meeting you would have already told your phone to ignore calls for that time. I don't know if anyone can develop an application which would do this so we don't have to wait for the iPhone six for this functionality. However if someone does develop such an application I would be willing to pay quite a bit for it. James H. Lockwood 574-274-4791 jlockw...@alumni.nd.edu Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are
Re: Cellular usage data question
Tethering is when you use your phone as a wireless hot spot to get on the internet with something such as your computer or another device. In my understanding, if you do not do this then there is something inaccurate about those statistics you are looking at. Hopefully if I am missing something someone will add to it or correct if necessary. Jim On 9/29/12, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. I am running an iPhone 4S with iOS six. I went into the settings, general, usage, cellular usage, and found that I had spent tethering data. What is this? I didn't have this before. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: article: iPhone 5 honeymoon over already?
Well it would seem that all of those listed are quite minor. I have to say in my opinion of course, but I really, really think the press is absolutely grasping at anything to cast a negative shadow over the IPhone 5. They really, really seem to try hard to do that. I have heard the new Samsong phone came out with much more impacting functional issues and also cracked plastic right out of the box. Will the press make anything of that? Not from what I have seen. No way. That's Samsong. That's android. They have no intention of every atempt to trash their reputation. On 9/29/12, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: article: iPhone 5 honeymoon over already? week in review Owners of the new smartphone find a litany of fault with the new device, while Apple grapples with map miscues. CNET News: After just a week on the market, the iPhone 5 has owners writing up a laundry list of faults with the new device. Soon after the iPhone 5 went on sale last Friday, users started filling up discussion forums and social networks with reports of scratches and nicks on their brand-new phones. People say they've noticed the defects around the aluminum band surrounding the phone, with the issue more visible on the black version of the new iPhone. Those complaints don't appear to bother Apple. Any aluminum product may scratch or chip with use, exposing its natural silver color, Apple Senior Marketing VP Phil Schiller said in an e-mail, according to 9to5Mac. That is normal. Apple seems much more taken aback by the flap over its iOS 6 Maps app -- so much so that CEO Tim Cook on Friday took the startling step, for Apple, of issuing a major mea culpa for falling short of delivering the best possible experience. We are extremely sorry, Cook wrote, for the frustration this has caused our customers and we are doing everything we can to make Maps better. But back to the iPhone: A purple halo also seems to plaguing some iPhone 5 owners, reportedly occurring on photographs if you aim your iPhone 5 camera toward a bright light source such as the sun or an incandescent light. If you then move the camera so the light source is off-screen, a purple halo effect can be seen through the camera. That effect also shows up on any pictures that are taken. Users are also complaining of lines of static appearing across their keyboard as they type. But the problem seems to occur only when they enter their passwords at the App Store or iTunes store. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Action rotor/new delete option inconsistancies
So what some are taking issue with here and how it works is how the feature is implemented right now and not a bug in how it is performing. People need to understand that. If you want it to work differently that is a feature request. As has been mentioned, it is available where the delete gesture is available for sighted people within built-in apps and features, not in third party apps. In the built-in apps it does not do the same thing on all screens because the delete gesture for the sighted people does not either. On 9/29/12, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: You are correct. Actions is not amongst the settable rotor options. Actions is like typing mode. Because it only appears in a few places, actions is automatically added to the rotor when it is available. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 30/09/2012, at 10:22, Allison Mervis alliso...@gmail.com wrote: That's wierd. Actions doesn't seem to be available in my list of roter options in settings. Allison On Sep 26, 2012, at 6:19 AM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, the option is always there, if not, all you have to do is put it in your rotor, and if not visible, just switch your rotor to it. I have done this with 100 percent success. It's funny what a little experimenting will do for you. On Sep 26, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: I have always thought the deleting was in consistent, and have noticed if swiping down to delete, it has to be done very quick or the option goes away. Kawal. On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hello List, Hopefully a few of you will join me in reporting to Apple that their implementation of the new Action rotor setting which allows you to delete email messages with a single swipe down or up and then a double tap is not implemented consistently throughout iOS. Below are 4 examples of places/apps where I found it doesn’t work or works partially: The Apple Podcast app: I know Downcast is still the preferred Podcast client by most, but let’s hope Apple does improve Podcast since it does have SIRI integration although that also needs to be improved. At this point the Action rotor setting is not present when in the list of Podcast episodes for a Podcast I am subscribed to. The Phone app: Here the Action menu is available in the Favourites list, a single finger flick down or up will put me on Delete and a double tap will remove whichever Favourite I am on. I still have to tap on “Edit” at the top, then tap the delete button beside the call I want to delete, confirm that I want to delete it and then tap Done at the top right. The Contacts app/Contacts tab: No deleting a contact in this new way. You have to open the Contact, go to Edit, go to the very end and double tap on the delete button there. The Messages app: I can delete a conversation in the main list view, but if I go into that conversation, the Action rotor is not available to delete individual messages in the conversation. I can clear all messages by going to Edit and then tapping Clear All at the top left or I can double tap one or more messages in a conversation and then double tap the “Delete 3 messages” in the bottom left where 3 is just an example, it will indicate however many messages you selected. Feel free to use what I typed above to paste into your message to Apple to ask that the Action rotor is one of the nice new iOS 6 features, but to implement it also in these places and others you may think of or where Apple may find a use for it. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this
Re: [Maccessibility] Apple Continues Tweaking iOS AppStore
Right, apps which have been returned from the search to you as a result of your search as the answer to your search. It's referring to the list of results. On 9/29/12, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote: So does apps which have been returned mean something like apps which search has found? I don't get what apps which have been returned means? To me, a return is taking something back after it's been purchased. This doesn't seem to fit with AppStore purchases, which can be deleted and a refund request be pursued. I just don't get what the return refers to. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 3:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Maccessibility] Apple Continues Tweaking iOS AppStore Yes what you are missing is the fact that there has been some problems with searching for apps and reliably getting to the results. So, Apple has been working on changes that has improved the accessibility in some of these areas. On Sep 29, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edumailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote: I'm not sure I understand why getting a list of apps that have been returned is something to get excited about. Am I not understanding something? Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comhttp://googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maccessibility Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: [Maccessibility] Apple Continues Tweaking iOS AppStore Maccessibility has posted a new item, 'Apple Continues Tweaking iOS AppStorehttp://maccessibility.net/2012/09/29/apple-continues-tweaking-ios-appstore/' Apple has continued its iOS 6 overhaul of the AppStore with some additions which improve the experience for VoiceOver users. Above the bottom row of tabs in the Search and Genius screens is now a Picker control which provides a list of the various apps which have been returned.VoiceOver users can flick up and down [...] You may view the latest post at http://maccessibility.net/2012/09/29/apple-continues-tweaking-ios-appstore/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: TuneIn Radio recording playback skip forward question
Not sure if it would work or not, but maybe try double tap and then hold the skip forward button? I'm not sure if it is the same type of control as like fast forward or rewind in a media player. It would make sense that it could be. On 9/29/12, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote: Hi, I recorded a football game today to catch a half-time interview with a friend. Playing back the recording starts from the beginning, but when I hit SkipForward it goes maybe a few seconds only. I can't find a slider to advance more quickly. Is there a way to advance a recording by bigger chunks of time, or activating a slider? I'm guessing there must be, but I'll be darned if I can find it. Thanks in advance. Keith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Navigating by heading bug perhaps and email issue
I just tried this as I understand it on an IPhone 5 and an IPhone 4 both running IOS 6. I went to applevis.com and then navigated by heading and all worked fine. It read the heading and read the headings with the links when I went to those headings and it stayed there ready for me to double tap. I double tapped on one and it was fine. I then hit back and moved back and forth by headings and it was fine. When you say you have to look for it and then double tap quickly, do you even mean if you find it with your finger on the screen it won't even stay there then? When I tried this I did not have any other open tabs in safari. I always try to close them all when I am done with safari. On 9/28/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: This is an issue that seems to affect other areas, so please report to accessibil...@appel.com. This will let them know that there is a problem. Just be sure to explain using steps how you encountered the problem and on what site. THis will help them reproduce the problem. On Sep 28, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Shane Clark hshanecl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I was on the Applevis Site a little earlier today, and I noticed as I was navigating by headings, when it got to the link of Apple, but I can't remember the rest, I noticed the focus would jump back up a little bit on the page and it would not read that part of the page. So I had to find it again, and quickly tap on it to go to it. So I didn't know if this was a bug maybe? And, I notice when I add three email addresses to send one email to, when I go to navigate to the subject field, it gets stuck at the cc field for some reason. So I have to remove the third address then write message body and subject field, and then go back and add the third address and send. Is this a bug? I'm running iOs 6 on an iPhone 4S. Notta big deal, just curious as to what it may be? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Tim Cook's apology!
If something is going to be all messed up, maps is a relatively ok thing for it to be in my opinion because there are so many alternatives to use for navigation apps. The other thing I noticed is this was just another instance in the comments where android fans are just trolling the net for any issues or even exagerated or roomers of issues to make their apple and IPhone bashing comments. Why do Android fans have to put so much of their lives in to bashing Apple? Can't they just be happy that they made whatever choice they did? I saw another article last night talking about the new A6 processor. The comments were filled with Android fans just bashing Apple with everything they could. Even one comments said too bad they don't have an OS to take advantage of it. Huh? Seems to me IOS takes advantage of the CPU and GPU chip set fine and I could not tell you how it does not. I do not think they could either. Meanwhile their beloved has a long standing reputation for all kinds of lag. Jim On 9/28/12, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: This is an interesting tactic; although why on earth Bing was the first alternative that he suggested is beyond me. On 9/28/12, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote: Please follow this link for the text of Tim Cook's apology! http://toi.in/sfeMOZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: i o s and visually impaired users
Using it is no problem and I think over all it is an upgrade. I can't help but wonder if the reason it was covered was because it was another opportunity to put a negative spin on the IPhone and things related by the media. The media and the press, in my view, they seem to absolutely hate the IPhone. They hate its success and they are doing everything they can to turn the tide against it. Sure you can find a few positive articles, but they are from a specific collection of people and sources. So they found what they could present as another trashing opportunity. Jim On 9/26/12, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I have no problems as well navigating the App Store I find it easy using it. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27/09/2012, at 9:58 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change. :) On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading to IPhone 5?
Why would you have to get use to making use to siri unless you want to? I'm not certain what you meant and maybe you just meant learning how to use it in order to make use of it to whatever its potential for you. You would not ever have to touch siri and you could still use the phone as you always do even with an IPhone 5. On 9/25/12, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote: Jim, Generally speaking, any time you upgrade to a higher level software and hardware there are going to be some bugs. Most, if I have read most of the messages correctly appear to be fairly insignificant. Keep in mind, though, that because you are upgrading to an Iphone 5, you are mostly going to have to get used to making use of Siri. For me, as I will be making the same move as you are contemplating in six weeks this will probably be the most difficult item to overcome. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Jim Portillo To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:07 PM Subject: Upgrading to IPhone 5? Howdy, I'd like to hear from anyone who has upgraded to a new IPhone 5. I have the IPhone 4 and am ready to upgrade but am unsure whether I should do it now or wait. Are there serious bugs either in the phone or in the operating system? I keep hearing there have been major changes to the system and would like to know what to expect. Thanks much. Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
