cold fusion will give buying power to people globally.
this buying power won't be reduced by magic, so it will be used either to
reduce work effort for the same salary, or to increase consumption of
goods, or of service.
Globally it will be good, end if well managed it may be good for the
in fact it seems more honest and clear.
most of climatologist says that today we cannot have an increase of
extremevent with so tiny temperature increase... it is wheather, or their
model are wrong...
It is a bit inconvenient that their fanclub in newspaper propaged scare
mongering to gain
when I get into that domain, as a young innocent engineer, in love with
science, having misssed an internship in DESY synchrotron, to develop
telex-over-VHV-power-line (yest I know look a pity)...
I got so innocent that:
- I did not understand that physicist may say it was impossible, since it
was
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/04/applying-union-of-concerned-scientist.html
linear law no treshold is pure bullshit.
Hormesis exist.
dose below 100mSv have no effect...
even 1Sv is just few % death by cancer (that is the basic of LLNT
established from Hiroshima)
The Union of Concerned Scientists
funny to see what is religion today.
2014/1/8 Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com
Greetings Vortex-L,
I saw this on Wikipedia and controversial topics for 2013:
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/522901/best-of-2013-edit-wars-reveal-the-10-most-controversial-topics-on-wikipedia/
.
If the world was french, talking of LENR would be punished and all book
would be burned. We start to hate freedom here. on any subject.
2014/1/8 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
- no regulation against lenr at home (when certified in industry)
Maybe we
seems not.
I suspect they are in vacations, in a warm place like home... because
Vancouver...
2014/1/8 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
The Defkalion web page has been this way for about a month, I think.
Has something changed in the last few days?
- Jed
2014/1/7 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
The author contacted some scientists working in the ‘hot’ fusion fields
who stated that Andrea Rossi could not possibly be achieving nuclear fusion
within his system based on the currently understood laws of physics. One
scientist stated that what Rossi
2014/1/7 Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
Axil, your say that LENR may be a new force, a catalyst, and an
amplifier for great social change. is always the visionaries point of
view. My experience tells me to be much more cynical. *Every politician
in the world will have promoted LENR and
, Jan 7, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote:
2014/1/7 Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
Axil, your say that LENR may be a new force, a catalyst, and an
amplifier for great social change. is always the visionaries point of
view. My experience tells me to be much more
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/victor-stenger/fusion-fission-and-fossil_b_4533513.html
pathetic how far he believes his lack of information and assert errors
without checking
is a notorious pseudo skeptical personality. No surprise
whatsoever about his opinion on this subject.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/victor-stenger/fusion-fission-and-fossil_b_4533513.html
pathetic how far he believes his lack
I agree.
It remind me the collapse of Rome, or what Assimov wrote in Foundation
trilogy...
Even if a western genious could save our dominance, we would forbide him to
do it...
Ooops... it is what is happening... with many examples...
2014/1/5 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
Axil, I
that some people said LENR claims do violate laws of thermodynamic made me
fall on my bottom...
it remind me the book of Beaudette about what he call skeptic (in fact
deniers)
page 134 (164) in the box:
summation
*Characteristics of the Scientific Skeptic*
In general, skeptics display the
the
laws of thermodynamics. Consequently, they waste a lot of time discussing
ideas about LENR that have no relationship to reality.
Ed Storms
On Jan 4, 2014, at 1:28 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
that some people said LENR claims do violate laws of thermodynamic made me
fall on my bottom
I feel it is the manipulation that I describe as history rewritten by the
losers.
instead of admitting they screwed up, they will blame cold fusion...
what ever is the theory, the fact is that the calorimetry was ignored, and
that is a scientific crime. point. end of science here.
2014/1/4 Eric
This remind me the controversial concept of incommensurability of Thomas
Kuhn, that I conforms practically.
As many show them, and even more deeply that what Kuhn says, a paradigm is
admitted nearly only when it is industrial ...
the other case, similar, is when laymen can have access to so clear
The lesson of Benabou model is between both your visions.
Groupthink : Collective Delusions In Organizations and Markets(Paper IOM
2012-07 by Roland
Benabou)http://www.princeton.edu/~rbenabou/papers/Groupthink%20IOM%202012_07_02%20BW.pdf
in fact those guy are intelligent, they know they are
2014/1/2 Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com
Garwin and Lewis
is it linked to that report
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/reports/GarwinLewisReport/garwin.shtml
what an irony that Lewis, who seems to be THE CAUSE of general LENR denial,
admitted in silence that it worked.
I remember that he was talking of the risk of power outage, and that they
anticipated that .
It looked strange for me since I imagined that without power it would
simply die... Now it looks clearer.
I don't know if it is real, but sure a negative retro-action is needed, and
that it is done
Hi all,
In Excess Heat (chapter 10 p171=141), Beaudette talk of
4 scientists (1 alosn,e and a team of 3) who visited McKubre, inspected
all, and seen no problem, then stay silent...
who was they, is there any report ?
Sometimes peer review takes the form of visits to a working laboratory.
, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote:
I don't know if it is real, but sure a negative retro-action is needed,
and that it is done through electricity is a good point.
If the mouse provides active cooling, how can it have a COP in excess of
1, as has been mentioned in comments elsewhere
if Rossi use the good word and the mouse is a negative feedback (beside
establishing a working point temperature), it is a very good news.
Until recently I felt concerned that LENR have positive sensitivity with
heat, unlike fission reactor in the stable zone.
The way it can have negative
fall on that patent application. dunno if it was discussed here
https://www.google.com/patents/US8485791
it does not patent LENR but a way to make hydrogen fuels move inside a
metal and be constrained...
creative I think, but I'm not expert.
It seems that patent is granted?
https://www.google.com/patents/US8485791
am I right?
2013/12/31 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
fall on that patent application. dunno if it was discussed here
https://www.google.com/patents/US8485791
it does not patent LENR but a way to make
I agree it looks idiotic, but technology change happen that way...
sail and steam engine...
electric taxi planes...
luminescent watch...
porn BBS...
first usage of technology is often niche and shy
2013/12/30 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
The article says they are getting $750,000 for a
BTW after Lewis stirring questions, some still moan on recombination
and some event talk of what I identify as Cudes CCS...
are there good/short rebuttal to those claims (I prepare my tool box)
One possible I see (from absence of data... not good argument) is that it
was not proven
Hi,
I'm continuing to read Excess heat and I fall on the story of the first
caltech conference. Chapter6 (4 press conference)
Beaudette present it as a big manipulation of press, with Lewis behaving in
a very unscientific way, pretending his failure was an evidence, claiming
lack of stirring,
it seems it failed at NRL
https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36786/LENRInvestigationsNavalResearch.pdf?sequence=1#page=23
they found nothing on iwamura samples.
note that this ruleout any fraud, since iwamura would not have send blank
samples but contaminated samples.
this
we crossed. with the strange facts you describe...
it seems that putting in perspective from iwamura to toyota through
kidwell/nrl the main scenario is quite troubling...
fraud by iwamura, replicated by toyota (weaker), but with blank sample
sent... are strange.
errors, seems strange given the
In that paragraph Beaudette clearly separate the arguments about heat,
calorimetry, artifact...
and the non-arguments about theory, that he describe as THE problem.
people mostly have this reasoning:
- theory as we understand it find no way to PREDICT LENR
- thus theory FORBID LENR (fallacy 1)
-
the problem is that similar article on climate change economy
says there is one billion a day flowing into that industry.
just German commitment in solar energy is 2 trillion in guaranteed price.
the difference is that it is mostly taxpayer money toward private corps.
2013/12/24 Axil Axil
hope you are right and 2014 is the las year of denial in the population
(add 1 year for Ivy league universities like for Wright Planes)
See how the elforsk report was ignored, not less than the thousands of
scientific papers before, with no better non-arguments...
I'm afraid there is no limit to
by quickly reading the structure of the paper,
I noticed something like about pomperiksson pamphlet:
it seems many details , if not full section , of the papers were ignored by
the commentators .
is it a common practice in science to have partial critics ?
when you have been caught in such a
Hi all,
Santa Claus give me the chance to read Excess Heat from Charles Beaudette...
I only start to read, but even the first chapter is making things quite
clear.
It gives a clear model about the rejection of LENR, the nonexistence of
confirmed counter evidence papers ...
eg, he says there are
that was subsequently sustained
by other reports.
2013/12/23 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
I think most people agree Beaudette's book is important. One scientist I
know says it resembles a lawyer's brief rather than a science text, but he
still likes it.
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote
Benabou have a vision which is not far.
for him it is not desire but fear that push such crowd-suicide name
groupthink.
The idea is that in a herd, you are killed if you disagree, and you cannot
escape if you see the error.
Your herd also may survive long if there is not too much dissenters to
Jed, you hit the hard point that I found in an article (a recent message).
Your position is evident for someone with good scientific culture and good
practical sense, but not brainwashed by academic training of Popper
science philosophy .
It is evident if you are not popper-distorted that to
As I am in contact with many lower layers skeptics among the planet, i can
say that it is a standard behavior.
what is standards
- to parrot wikipedia without any understanding
- not to have read any paper... exceptionally to have read one and
misinterpreted all
- to focus on a punny detail
;-)
maybe that is trolling? or is it sincere and full delusion?
I don't take video as evidence. Neither Nature or Science editor as
evidence. Nor opinion from people who did not look at the subject, which
include all critics except a handful of people like Huizenga and Cudes.
I take a network
the good news is that it is not specific to the question whether
Science/Nature
have stated more or less officially that they will not publish anything
around cold fusion.
2013/12/17 Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com
Personally I don't mind Mr. Franks making a fool of himself, but I agree
that it
Hi all, and especially Jed,
In the past (Foks noticed it) I quickly denounced the official policy of
Science/Nature not to publish on Cold Fusion.
There is no serious doubt it is an internal policy (given Oriani's story,
Report 41 De Ninno and recently as reported by Pamela Mosier Boss).
at least they did not kill him by bath in molten metal, as it happen in
some North Korean camps.
the source is a documents (on FR/DE Arte TV) about inheritors of mengele (
http://navetoncinema.canalblog.com/archives/2011/10/15/22346254.html )
which seems serious...
2013/12/13 Jed Rothwell
maybe using the term paradigm shift is exaggerated.
a paradigm shift is something really, really annoying for the old paradigm.
this one seems a very convenient way to rephrase old theory. My impression
is that it is in the current paradigm of mathematized theoretical physics,
symmetry based
it looks interesting (for some time I thought Climeon was working on that,
but it was just a COR/organic rankine) but one problem with thermionic is
that it require huge temperatures, like 700-1700C...
700C is acessible to gas+powder LENR today, but not much more...
2013/12/9
there is a article which reemerged recently
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/4f1c41e8-e66e-11e1-ac5f-00144feab49a.html#ixzz2mmm0p3oy
on FT.com
if you add that one
http://www.lbl.gov/LBL-PID/Nobelists/Seaborg/presidents/23.html
you realize what was the proble...
as some says here, there are thousands
as i says in the article,
there is a sad tendency to focus on easy frauds debunked quickly,
and to miss the huge failure of big Journals like natureco :
- Pal -review, kingmakers, kerberos... which prevent enemies to publish .
many case identified today from different source, and minimized each
maybe some should revert the question?
is there any credible critic by someone who have proven an artifact ,
published it, and that this artifact explain many possible positive results
?
I feel there is very few, narrow, and addressed.
am I wrong?
2013/12/7 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
...@gmail.com
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
is there any credible critic by someone who have proven an artifact ,
published it, and that this artifact explain many possible positive results
?
Not that I am aware of. There are only a handful of skeptical papers that
even attempt to do
yes Jed, it seems many people use the wildcard answer there have been
errors...
is there any peer-reviewed paper showing proven artifact,
and was it corrected ?
(just to answer to the usual pretended physicist who parrot wikipedia
without any real fact in the mind).
2013/12/6 Jed Rothwell
A short story of Dr Seaborg is reported by people having transcripted his
courses my service with 10 presidents...
http://www.lbl.gov/LBL-PID/Nobelists/Seaborg/presidents/23.html
I was called to Washington on April 14, 1989, to brief George Bush on cold
fusion. I don't know whether you know what
Like the Bishop of Stockholm publishing a report on Daemonology...
Good coverage, some shyness, some naive dare, too few precision...
anyway the status of Elforsk have more importance than the report.
should be an atomic bomb in a rational world...
2013/12/3 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
they prepare to revert their jacket, but also to keep it on.
Rats seems to prepare buoy in case of drowning, but stay in the cheese.
anyway that in phys.org is it itself another unthinkable. Many in few days.
2013/11/29 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
Italian company to sell portable cold
I'm sorry to bother you Ed, but you are my peer-review ...
What learned from you all, it is that yes it is a hard job, with many
pitfall...
problem is that pitfall are on bothsides, and some think they don't need to
check their claims.
Maybe you don't see it, but something is happening.
the most
to creativity.
Nigel
On 20/11/2013 09:33, Alain Sepeda wrote:
Interesting article on Science evolution...
It resonate with many things (out of LENR) I've noticed recently...
Mostly Science is dying of conformism... consensus...
It always have bee conformist, killing dissenters, but today
What I noticed in his interview and from facts :
- the position of his wife is important about his decision
- he is recognized for having developed the research activity at MU
- TTU seems interested to develop research
- TTU said nothing about LENR
of course for us LENR is the key discovery of
It is maybe a paper tiger, but politician, investor, administrators, are
afraid by paper tigers, stamped with the seal of consensus science.
There is a 3rd report of decision makers stoppin relation with LENR
innovator, after some enthusiasm. each time scientific advisors seems to
have advised.
Interesting article on Science evolution...
It resonate with many things (out of LENR) I've noticed recently...
Mostly Science is dying of conformism... consensus...
It always have bee conformist, killing dissenters, but today this
conformism is getting industrialized, administered, funded, ,
Hi,
Does anyone here knows that interview of srinivasan from Barc in 1991
http://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1991/eirv18n15-19910419/eirv18n15-19910419_025-m_srinivasan.pdf
I fall on it by random
the site is
http://larouchepub.com/eiw/
an executive intelligence review par someone called
) joules
0.5 mole D + D, 2.0141 g total = 1.76×10^11 Joules
1 gram TNT detonated = 23.8 nanograms D + D fusion
12:57 PM, November 20, 2013
2013/11/20 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
Interesting article on Science evolution...
It resonate with many things (out of LENR) I've noticed recently
Alain, here are a few comments that might be useful.
On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
I've got an answer with claim of artifact... probably an old story. I
imagine that to fool Ed you need more tha recombination ...
can you comment, and check I did not answer stupidly
Hi,
In some discussion we discussed about the fact that majority of physicist
deny LENR reality.
It seems clear that 99% of opinion on LENR are just 3nd hand opinion, ie
jus parroting what colleagues or media say.
People like me have 2nd hand opinion, based on reading documents, and
hearing 1st
Hi all,
Maybe you remember of the battle to make Lenuco (George Miley) get
nominated for a Future Energy Ultra Light Startups contest. We lose but we
lose avec panache.
LENR Cars have just been selected to compete in the in the Future Energy
online pitching contest organized by Ultra Light
I've just found that question,
and prepare to be censored:
feel free to correct me
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/43960/is-there-any-reproducible-tested-evidence-for-ni-h-cold-fusion/86854#86854
Is there any reproducible tested evidence for Ni-H cold
2013/11/15 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
head
interesting, to estimate the cost of a first LENR-Car prototype
let us make an easy engineering toy prototype...
take a teslaS 60kEur (take it as 80k$)
my estimate of price of LENR reactor was from defkalion, 100$/kWth
and top micro turbines
It is common fr people in total distrust to demand useless test.
I remember of test by militaries on pigs (napalm or nuke...?)
moreover 6 month may give indication of total autonomy, reliability...
it is a big version of the tea kettle.
when you are in denial, you increase the demand to make it
on the historical truth. In the
very moment of discovery cold fusion was
simly and clearly IMPOSSIBLE to be solved. This makes
the merits of the Founders and of those faithful who have
helped CF to survive even greater.And the story more interesting.
Peter
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Alain
beside that classic scenarii, of small scale extorsion, I think about a
more serious scenario.
I have seen from the history log of LENR, from social network, that HATE
agains LENr is huge by Science Mindguards.
I'm not too afraid from manipulation accidents by corps (they have NGO to
manipulate
http://sciencebookaday.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/science-book-a-day-interview-george-d-morgan/http://sciencebookaday.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/science-book-a-day-interview-george-d-morgan/comment-page-1/#comment-50
*#5 –Do you have another upcoming project/book that you can tell us about?*
I
http://amasci.com/supress1.html
Abstract
American and British history is riddled with examples of valid research and
inventions which have been suppressed and derogated by the conventional
science community. This has been of great cost to society and to individual
scientists. Rather than
There are millions prepared already.
They just make the mistake to imagine it is already industrial, and ask for
industrial-grade evidence.
some judge it should be treates as seedling/startup capital, not as
developement/industrialization capital (maybe I don't use the good US term).
oood example
we should propose to the erased a contract:
- if the LENR is proven you are fired
or you let the data leak.
normally he will wait to be fired because of Groupthink collective
Delusion.
2013/10/26 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Gee .. a very bland
few point.
1- spying is happening. I know 3 cases in recent quarters. 1 builder and 2
followers, and 1 tentative to get sample, 1 computer high-profile attack
with perfect cleaning, and 1 ground intrusion by serious guys. forget
suppression, it is economic intelligence (#nsa?) as most Snowden
more diplomatically I make a contribution. no edit...
I keep the evidences (as pdf)
http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2481-Wikipedia-self-appointed-guardian-erased-Elforsk-article-in-2-minutesp=5906#post5906
2013/10/26 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
we should propose
by the way, as far as I understood an article on quantum physics,
it seems that under relativity, observators of the same reality of quantum
field from different referentials, may see photons or electrons, and
different numbers of particle
it is an argument to say that un QM+R particles don't
another good reason not to show your latest model is
- avoiding triggering fierce fear from competitors
http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/FF_doc/2009-06-25_NASA-GRC-Millis_AnomalousHeatEffect.pdf
( extract is summarized there
It is a finding from david...he posted it on the forum.
probably from the mouth of the horse... ;-)
2013/10/23 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Alain:
Thanks for posting this. Do you know where the original Swedish document
is?
- Jed
I agree that Elforsk and all evidence we have don't eliminate the risk that
E-cat does not work well... that it is unstable, unreliable, or have
problems...
what this article rules out is that e-cat does not exist, is not working at
all, is a fraud...
of course some will try to stick on their
If it is measured precisely it is a scientific evidence !
1.0047 +-0.0001 is an evidence.. is it?
but did they check
- the power meter
- the thermometer
- the IRcam
- the steam quality
- the steam exit
- is it reproduced by more than 100 teams on the planet ?
- an independent team who never
http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2475-News-from-Swedish-Elforsk-about-ECATp=5900viewfull=1#post5900
*ELFORSK Perspective
*
*Unknown nuclear process Can revolutionize the world's energy*
*What is happening when the Italian inventor and contractor Andrea Rossi
demonstrates his so-called
quite common...
Many article use cold fusion(they ignore LENR) as strawman... they repeat
the wikipage...
as I says elsewhere the challenge of LENR acceptation is transforming usual
scientist brains from trusting xerox copy machine, to scientific problem
solver.
I am a bit nasty saying so,
for me , as it happen often minimal income go with flat tax, which it
dampen.
Some people would agree to pay their slightly bigger share of taxes (maybe
not bigger in fact that is the trick) to :
- stop thinking about taxes, and thinking about business
- stop wasting public money to check is
It seems a good point.
The industrial revolution worked because it was giving a place in the new
industrial world to anybody having been in school, able to read, write and
tighten a bolt.
my idea is that the future is not in the hightech industry, because it will
be what I call heroic jobs, jobs
one thing for some who say this initiative is printing money.. it is linked
to taxes... typically flat tax, or legacy tax, the only taxes that are not
toxic for the economy.
another way to do the sale could be like waht is donne in poor countries
with agriarian reforms, it is to give a share of
I don't know if it is related, but about Defkalion magnetic field (that now
, according to abd ul rahman lomax, I consider as an artifact caused by a
real electromagnetic field), it remind me
- the EM claims of rossi
- the direct LENR to electric conversion by Blackpower
it remind me some claim
2013/10/20 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
some good insight as usual 8)
note that the key to unconditional income, is that IT IS NOT A MINIMUM
INCOME...
in france we have a minimum income, which is canceled when you earn your
life... it is demotivating, even for courageous people who
do you confirm that the work of ENEA/SRI/NRL as presented in brussels
conference, and in ICCF18 is a good synthesis of knwoledge of FP
electrolysis...
The conditions seems to be well understood today... only recent data is
about impurities and cristallography, and the rest is quite old...
am I
what is funny and interesting is that this movent is pushed... you can be
surprised, but the more libertarianist (in france we call them liberal,
this mean like republican... not like communist).
the idea is based on many observation.
the fact that tax increase with income is demotivating some
note about nanoparticle research that the patent of piantelli, recently
received a documented opposition from rossi, and there is a good
bibliography on that subject, showing it was in the pipe
arata , biberian, celani, and many others
2013/10/19 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Pd
Just a thanks for his honest work of reasonable skeptic, thus treasonable
convinced bu evidences...
It allows that article to exist:
http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2013/oct/18/british-gas-prices-alternative-energy-solutions
Sorry for quick reading...
it is a bad joke article...
the style was more polite that usual...
the other subjects were not interesting... I missed the cows...
2013/10/18 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
Just a thanks for his honest work of reasonable skeptic, thus treasonable
I have physicist in my family,
and I know how the priest treat the cookers.
Question is not whether all are so, but nice and honest people have usually
less power and voice in debate compared to nasty egotic personalities.
2013/10/17 James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
Baudette's claim that the
about human fear of change this join this study
http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/111212_creativity.htm
I think that sucess of failure of acceptance of something like LENR, is
partially determined, but hugely chaotic... few details could have make
LENR a success.
2013/10/17 Jed Rothwell
I did not see it, but from reaction
One point that have been reported is that the put the blame of that
scientific and human tragedy on FP bad communication... not on anything
about the community, paradigm change, conservatisme, hijack of brain by few
extremists, billions hunting...
In a way,
Light oil, even few could ease the transition, avoiding expensive oild
which ask for decades of investments..
It is good to help LENR...
LENR, unless bad surprise, will capture most of energy market and transform
it.
in few decades. if meanwhile there is an easy solution without tar sand,
shales,
Hi all,
I imagine it is a FAQ, and it will launch discussion, but if you had to
give reference to scientists asking for peer-reviewed articles
On internet, or just the bibliography data, letting them buy the paper.
I first put Ed Storms review 2010 in naturWissenschaften
Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
Your answer is wise and cool...
after digging into the horse manure of LENR history, I have some desire
to be nasty and non-professional.
Naturally. Who wouldn't feel that way!
Notice that Huxley was ridiculing
What have been the IG Nobel around Cold fusion in history ?
I've noticed the FleischmannPons 91, which have disapeared from records ?
then the Bockris 97
Louis Kervan 93 for calcium related LENR
if you remove FP which they removed themselves, it seems there is only
extraodinary LENR claims...
the bankers... privatizing the glory, and socializing the
failures.
2013/10/9 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
What have been the IG Nobel around Cold fusion in history ?
I've noticed the FleischmannPons 91, which have disapeared from records
from what they say, they use mu-metal and coils to screen magnetic fields.
Of course metal is used to block pressure and hydrogen leaks...
they claim 30-500keV gammas around background level.
you can notice it indirectly with the photography of a gamma measurement
(falsely attributed to
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