Re: [Vo]:RE: More on the Kalman paper

2013-12-22 Thread Edmund Storms
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Yes, if 4 don't work, try 5. If 5 fail, try 50. As they say, with enough variables, all data can be fit. It never occurs

Re: [Vo]:RE: More on the Kalman paper

2013-12-22 Thread Edmund Storms
wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Yes, if 4 don't work, try 5. If 5 fail, try 50. As they say, with enough variables, all data can be fit. It never occurs to these people that their basic model may be wrong. They just keep adding variables

Re: [Vo]:RE: More on the Kalman paper

2013-12-21 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, I know it is fun to speculate and play mental games in science, but why waste time when the game has no value. This paper you find interesting is a mathematical game having no relationship to reality. If anything, this exercise shows just how flawed the theory being used really is.

Re: [Vo]:RE: More on the Kalman paper

2013-12-21 Thread Edmund Storms
theory not you own. And which knee are you jerking? :-) Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms Jones, I know it is fun to speculate and play mental games in science, but why waste time when the game has no value. This paper you find interesting is a mathematical game having

Re: [Vo]:New Salt Compounds Challenge the Foundation of Chemistry

2013-12-21 Thread Edmund Storms
This paper by Oganov is full of exaggerations. High pressure has been used for years to create new materials and explore compounds that cannot form under normal pressure. The authors of this paper give the impression they discovered something new in violation of chemical laws. Thus is not

Re: [Vo]:Electron assisted neutron exchange in solid state

2013-12-20 Thread Edmund Storms
This description is popular with physicists, but conflicts with what is experienced in chemistry. Such energetic electrons, if they were present and could influence a nuclear reaction, they would also affect chemical reactions. No such effect has been observed. Once again, the obsession

Re: [Vo]:Electron assisted neutron exchange in solid state

2013-12-20 Thread Edmund Storms
On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms * This description is popular with physicists, but conflicts with what is experienced in chemistry. ... that's a semantic distinction which bears the legacy of two decades of professional

Re: [Vo]:More on the Kalman paper

2013-12-20 Thread Edmund Storms
On Dec 20, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: Nice effort listing all the theories side by side Jones. Indeed it is quite a smorgasbord, and the final theory will likely being some unpredicted synthesis of two, three, or more. And that's only the main reaction pathway, which we can then

Re: [Vo]:More on the Kalman paper

2013-12-20 Thread Edmund Storms
to discover. Cheers. Ed Regards, John On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: Nice effort listing all the theories side by side Jones. Indeed it is quite a smorgasbord, and the final theory will likely being

Re: [Vo]:More on the Kalman paper

2013-12-20 Thread Edmund Storms
and not have to fight skeptics. Cheers, Ed Regards, John On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: John, the other theories are in direct logical conflict with each other and are also in conflict with many

Re: [Vo]:Analogy from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project

2013-12-18 Thread Edmund Storms
You might also consider that this stimulus would also produce cracks, which I claim is the essential condition. Ed Storms On Dec 18, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: I think this statement is obvious to anyone who has investigated the phenomenon thoroughly, but I'm glad they brought it

Re: [Vo]:Analogy from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project

2013-12-18 Thread Edmund Storms
John, each of these conditions have an independent role. A High flux makes D more rapidly available to the NAE. B. High loading makes D more available as well. C. The concentration of NAE determines the number of little generators. D. No kick starting is necessary. This is a conventional

Re: [Vo]:Analogy from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project

2013-12-18 Thread Edmund Storms
, etc.) formation might be amplified given the right stimulus and could accelerate whatever mechanism is at play in the NAE. Regards, John On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: John, each of these conditions have an independent role. A High flux

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Confusion and Questionable Ethics

2013-12-09 Thread Edmund Storms
Kevin, this presentation itself is based on questionable ethics. Many of the statements are lies that are well known to be false. Go to LENR.org and read a students guide to cold fusion by Storms. Ed Storms On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: I could use some help from some

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Confusion and Questionable Ethics

2013-12-09 Thread Edmund Storms
On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: Obviously major mistakes were made by PF. The press conference was a mistake. That is obvious only after the fact. If F-P had not made a public announcement, Jones would have. In fact, the claim would have gotten attention without the

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Confusion and Questionable Ethics

2013-12-09 Thread Edmund Storms
. In addition, the physics community made the assumption that the claimed effect was caused by hot fusion. This assumption was wrong. It turns out F-P were right and the physics community was wrong. Unfortunately, this error is hard for them to admit. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Edmund

Re: [Vo]:Interview with Rob Duncan about his move to Texas Tech

2013-11-21 Thread Edmund Storms
What actions?? Rob takes another job. Big deal. Everything else is pure speculation and paranoia. Ed On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: Fair enough, I retract it. However - he's a fairly famous person (60 minutes) in a position of very significant power in academia. I

Re: [Vo]:Does modern science discourage creativity?

2013-11-21 Thread Edmund Storms
I have the same impression of the human condition, Alain. I think the internet makes more obvious what was always the case, i.e. most people are uninformed, irrational, and stubborn in their opinions. In the past, this was only noticed in conversations at the local level. In addition,

Re: [Vo]:Does modern science discourage creativity?

2013-11-20 Thread Edmund Storms
Alain, here are a few comments that might be useful. On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: I've got an answer with claim of artifact... probably an old story. I imagine that to fool Ed you need more tha recombination ... can you comment, and check I did not answer stupidly

Re: [Vo]:Does modern science discourage creativity?

2013-11-20 Thread Edmund Storms
pandering orthogonal to empirical application. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/06/dinner-with/ They lacked discipline and protocols. 2013/11/20 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Alain, here are a few comments that might be useful. On Nov 20

Re: [Vo]:There has been tremendous progress in population control and infant mortality

2013-11-17 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed, such opinions depend on the time scale you wish to use. If you are concerned about what will happen to your children, your optimism should be low. if you are talking about your great-grand children, you should be a bit more optimistic. If you are talking about what happens 1000 years

Re: [Vo]:Storms' short Naturwissenschaften article

2013-10-29 Thread Edmund Storms
- Edmund Storms http://download.springer.com/static/pdf/902/art%253A10.1007%252Fs00114-013-1101-y.pdf?auth66=1383244906_ce460811141ee85e9276ab59ebe800f1ext=.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Video The Believers

2013-10-17 Thread Edmund Storms
Deciding why CF was rejected is difficult because so many variables apply and each person only experienced part of the process. To start the evaluation, the basic reasons need to be acknowledged. Once the reasons are available, their importance needs to be determined. The importance of

Re: [Vo]:Video The Believers

2013-10-17 Thread Edmund Storms
Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Initially, the idea was not rejected by many people who later found reasons to reject. Some of them were standing by, nursing a grudge, waiting to speak out in public. Especially the MIT plasma fusion group. That's what Gene

Re: [Vo]:Video The Believers

2013-10-17 Thread Edmund Storms
/exclusives/111212_creativity.htm I think that sucess of failure of acceptance of something like LENR, is partially determined, but hugely chaotic... few details could have make LENR a success. 2013/10/17 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Initially

Re: [Vo]:Best Peer-reviewed article for those who ask for it

2013-10-11 Thread Edmund Storms
You should know that efforts to provide a review article using more up to date information have failed when submitted to major journals. The mainstream journals still do not accept review papers about LENR. Increasingly, rejection is based on ignorance, not on logic or scientific

Re: [Vo]:A great, pleasant meeting

2013-09-30 Thread Edmund Storms
Actually Jed, the mass change can be measured. Of course this is not done using a laboratory scales. However, if the mass and energy of the individual particles resulting from the nuclear reaction are measured, the numbers add up correctly. Ed On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:A great, pleasant meeting

2013-09-29 Thread Edmund Storms
This makes sense if we assume the regulators cannot read or are idiots. Anyone who can read and understands the claims, knows that a nuclear reaction is being claimed that is very likely fusion. If I were a regulator I would question the integrity of Defkalion based on an obvious effort to

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread Edmund Storms
Being one of the old people, I would like to share my impression of this issue. Most young people are ignorant, self-centered, and without much imagination. When they become old people, most remain ignorant, self- centered, and without imagination. Growing old simply gives a person who

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-23 Thread Edmund Storms
Of course LENR is denied by the West. The technology is a real and profound danger to the West. It would undermine the economics of the energy industries, on which the West is built, and it would give the Third world, including China and India, great advantage. The people in charge in the

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-23 Thread Edmund Storms
EU is under that tent... why not the italians ? (maybe because they have a good palladium provider!) interesting question... selfish interest of a minority ? of stupidity of the majority? 2013/9/23 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Of course LENR is denied by the West. The technology

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-23 Thread Edmund Storms
of our own bodies that include incredibly sophisticated systems such as immune response. If we could somehow get a better conceptual handle on the structure of these mechanisms it might become practical to disrupt them so that progress can proceed. On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Edmund

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-23 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree Bob, the world is not managed in order to increase everyone's benefit. Jed tends to be an optimist about the future while I and apparently you as well are more of a realist. The world is in a mess. The West has created an unstable and unsustainable economic structure and many parts

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-23 Thread Edmund Storms
want to clear wikipedia, the holy territory, or science from pseudoscience. with planet consequence. 2013/9/23 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com I agree Bob, the world is not managed in order to increase everyone's benefit. Jed tends to be an optimist about the future while I

Re: [Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-23 Thread Edmund Storms
The scary part is that intelligent people would consider this claim even plausible when the idea is obviously the hallucination of an insane mind. Of course the government lies, of course it does bad things, of course it cannot be trusted. But the government does operate in predictable

Re: [Vo]:Was the Navy shooting far more significant than it seems?

2013-09-23 Thread Edmund Storms
On Sep 23, 2013, at 3:43 PM, John Berry wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: That is a good point, but the some of the same could have been argued about the disruption of taking the WTC down and flying

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-13 Thread Edmund Storms
Does anyone else see that the explanation given by Godes is pure word salad having no relationship to reality. The description is in direct and basic conflict with what is known and accepted in science. I'm flabbergasted that money is being spent and discussion is taking place based on

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks Bob. Finally someone understands and is using my theory. Ed On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Bob Higgins wrote: Recently, Peter published in his blog his reasons for hoping that the NAE aren’t cracks. After considering it, I believe he misses the uniqueness, durability, and beauty of the

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Edmund Storms
On Aug 23, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: Dear Bob, Thank you for the idea of cracks' aesthetics! I know it well, I think you have remarked the second Motto by Leonard Cohen based on this idea.. It happens that very early in my professional career I learned about the beauty and

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Edmund Storms
need and want and not care so much if she is whining a bit for that. Peter On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Aug 23, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: Dear Bob, Thank you for the idea of cracks' aesthetics! I know it well, I think you have

Re: [Vo]:Dennis Cravens' LENR demonstration at NI Week

2013-08-23 Thread Edmund Storms
Dennis, can you tell us what difference existed between the two balls? What was in the active ball compared to the control? Why is one hotter than the other one? Where did you have the balls constructed? Ed On Aug 23, 2013, at 1:59 PM, James Bowery wrote: You had written: I have some

Re: [Vo]:In defense of cracks...

2013-08-23 Thread Edmund Storms
approach to the reaction has many orders of magnitude numerical superiority over the crack regime. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Peter, I'm simply telling you what your comments mean to me. I'm not thinking in your place. If I have gotten

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: about the Nuclear Active Environment

2013-08-21 Thread Edmund Storms
, not phonons. Bob On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Paul, I propose the craters result where the concentration of NAE is so great that local heat cannot escape fast enough. Consequently, runnaway occurs, i.e. positive feedback takes place through

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: about the Nuclear Active Environment

2013-08-20 Thread Edmund Storms
Thank you in advance in the name of my readers, Peter On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Peter, why do you write about subjects that you know nothing about? You obviously have not read or understood what I propose. You have not asked questions

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: about the Nuclear Active Environment

2013-08-20 Thread Edmund Storms
Terry, the problem is psychological, not scientific. Understanding CF requires a change in perspective, which is hard for many people to do. You need to look at the system in which the nuclear reaction occurs from the perspective of the assembly of atoms, i.e. like a chemist does. The

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: about the Nuclear Active Environment

2013-08-20 Thread Edmund Storms
reaction is a fluid process of continual destruction and renewal that any solid structure cannot duplicate. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Terry, the problem is psychological, not scientific. Understanding CF requires a change in perspective

[Vo]:Re: CMNS: about the Nuclear Active Environment

2013-08-19 Thread Edmund Storms
Peter, why do you write about subjects that you know nothing about? You obviously have not read or understood what I propose. You have not asked questions or discussed this with me. You make statements that have no relationship to what I have proposed or even to general knowledge about

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: about the Nuclear Active Environment

2013-08-19 Thread Edmund Storms
to CMNS and more will be provided in my ICCF-18 paper. I suggest you study these papers before jumping to any conclusions. In addition, If you need more clarification, please ask. Ed Thank you in advance in the name of my readers, Peter On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Edmund Storms stor

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: about the Nuclear Active Environment

2013-08-19 Thread Edmund Storms
, cracks have no future and NAE has to be a smart concept, complex. Best wishes, Peter - On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Aug 19, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: Dear Ed, Thank you for criticizing my paper as I have asked the readers. I am

Re: [Vo]:the future of PdD LENR is not technological

2013-08-17 Thread Edmund Storms
On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Axil Axil wrote: If there is no neutrons, there will be no tritium. Pure protium will poduce no tritium. Yes, this is obviously true, Axil. The question is, How is the neutron formed? It can not be formed outside of the nucleus as a free neutron because

Re: [Vo]:Asked Answered

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
LENR does NOT contradict current theory. LENR is a different phenomenon from hot fusion. Consequently the theory applied to hot fusion cannot be applied too cold fusion. We can only say that a piece of the puzzle is missing - nothing more. Ed On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Kevin O'Malley

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
Good comment, Jones. I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, the well was poisoned from the start by the US patent office refusal to accept ANY patent for many years and the DOE panel by its one sided conclusion, both of which created a legal situation that doomed any serious study of

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
like LENR the game is entirely different. All it takes is one protected jurisdiction anywhere in the world to realize enormous profits. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Good comment, Jones. I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, the well

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
Teslaalset, you asked a simple and reasonable question and you deserve an understandable answer. The reaction being claimed is Ni + p = Cu with a proton being added to a Nickel isotope that results in the isotope of copper having the same number of neutrons. Ni + p has greater mass than

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
:19 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: James, your comment might be right, but I suggest we have a bigger problem. Since patent protection for the basic process is not possible, a patent for the best application is the only protection. This is similar to the situation in mature

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
motivate the major players to get off their butts. Everything would follow from that. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Let me see if I can be clearer. I believe the LENR situation is not like any other. First of all, the basic explanation

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
On Aug 13, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Axil Axil wrote: The strength of the magnetic field is a “smoking gun” for soliton production. It is a smoking gun if the claim is real. But what if the claim is not real? What if we discover it is actually based on an error. What will you say then? How much

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
behavior coming out of his reactor. Two like systems reporting the same type of EMF anomaly looks like the real thing to me. If you are really interest in zeroing in on the causation of LENR, the also research Rossi's EMF claims. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Edmund Storms stor

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
to interpret.. 1.6 tesla at 20 Cms. What could be clearer than that, unless you just don't want to believe it, that is. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: But exactly what is the anomaly? DGT reports a magnetic field with 1.6 T. Rossi reports RF radiation

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
of creative inventions. People get easily excited. However, it is still good to get some confirmation from Rossi’s team and provide us significant information with evidence. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Aug 13, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Axil Axil

Re: [Vo]:just published -with permission- a paper about DEFKALION

2013-08-12 Thread Edmund Storms
Peter, a magnetic field has not been discovered. A claim has been made without any evidence or even a logical explanation. The claimed high intensity of a magnetic field is impossible under the circumstance. Therefore the reading on the gauss meter was misinterpreted. Until this issue is

Re: [Vo]:just published -with permission- a paper about DEFKALION

2013-08-12 Thread Edmund Storms
this is a random complaint, don't expect them to them to listen to you any time soon. There is no time out and no delay in business. 2013/8/12 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com The time out is necessary for this obvious error to be explained and corrected. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi

Re: [Vo]:just published -with permission- a paper about DEFKALION

2013-08-12 Thread Edmund Storms
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com The time out refers to discussion by people on Vortex who have no knowledge about the issue. Do you have inside knowledge that you will kindly provide? Ed On Aug 12, 2013, at 8:33 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: The only fact it is that you do not accept

Re: [Vo]:just published -with permission- a paper about DEFKALION

2013-08-12 Thread Edmund Storms
smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. Richard P. Feynman On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Why do you discuss any thing on vortex? Why do you even comment since we are all engaging in random curiosity about everything? You

Re: [Vo]:Suggestions for a more effective demonstration

2013-08-12 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed, a better method is to use a constant rate pump. These are available and are very reliable and accurate. The rate is not affected by back pressure, within reason and can be adjusted to achieve the required delta T. Ed On Aug 12, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: DJ Cravens

Re: [Vo]:just published -with permission- a paper about DEFKALION

2013-08-12 Thread Edmund Storms
stupid. Ed On Aug 12, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Peter, a magnetic field has not been discovered. A claim has been made without any evidence or even a logical explanation. The claimed high intensity

Re: [Vo]:Einstein and Bethe were involved in Lenr experiment !!!

2013-07-30 Thread Edmund Storms
I see no relationship to LENR. This is obviously hot fusion. Neutrons can be made at 35kv, as described on the article, but at a low rate. This was not understood at the time. Now if is. We do not have to be taught y such early experience Ed Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2013, at 5:07 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Why Cold Fusion Has to Die

2013-07-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Mark, you are correct about many theories being proposed but you are wrong about there being no theory that explains the effect. I have described such a theory in print and will give a major talk about the model at ICCF-18. This model can explain all the observed behavior as well as how

Re: [Vo]:Why Cold Fusion Has to Die

2013-07-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Why not call cold fusion: This is no threat to hot fusion (TINTTHF) and count on every one being as easily fooled as this discussion assumes? Ed On Jul 15, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Rob Dingemans wrote: Hi, On 15-7-2013 16:11, Jones Beene wrote: 3) PCRPF or polariton catalyzed reversible

Re: [Vo]:Why Cold Fusion Has to Die

2013-07-15 Thread Edmund Storms
I make the distinction between the Fleischmann-Pons Effect, The Arata Effect, and the Stringham Effect. All are cold fusion, but the names identify different methods and give credit. As for the name, everyone knows about cold fusion. Changing the name only invites a charge of trying to

Re: [Vo]:Is lenr just a more efficient muon catalyzed fusion process ?

2013-07-12 Thread Edmund Storms
You need to realize this paper does NOT describe LENR. This is a variation of hot fusion. This is another way to produce the typical hot fusion process. The involvement of the muon ONLY increases the rate of hot fusion. Nothing about the reaction is changed except its rate. While the

Re: [Vo]:DGT or ECAT? Same Process?

2013-07-10 Thread Edmund Storms
LENR is EASY to demonstrate to any educated person. The problem is not that a plausible demonstration is impossible because skepticism is too strong. The problem is simply ignorance of two kinds. Ignorance of one kind has been identified by Jed and many other people. This kind of ignorance

Re: [Vo]:DGT or ECAT? Same Process?

2013-07-10 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jul 10, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: This, I disagree with. Heat is the only thing that matters. Heat is worth money. Money is what investors want. They don't care whether it is nuclear or angel farts. The source determines the engineering behavior, the life-time, and the

Re: [Vo]:DGT or ECAT? Same Process?

2013-07-10 Thread Edmund Storms
to overcome the ENGINEERING problems. Once LENR is acknowledged as a nuclear reaction, it also will get similar support. So far, the financial system does not acknowledge this fact. Ed On Jul 10, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Edmund Storms stor

Re: [Vo]:DGT or ECAT? Same Process?

2013-07-09 Thread Edmund Storms
Eric, if you attend ICCF-18, I will answer this question during my talk. Ed On Jul 9, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:39 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: What does the spark of DGT offer that heat alone seems to neglect in the ECAT? This gets

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-08 Thread Edmund Storms
Eric, ion bombardment has a rich literature containing 90 references in my library. You need to read this before speculation is useful. Ion bombardment can produce either hot fusion and/or cold fusion, depending on the conditions and applied energy. Low energy favors cold fusion if the NAE

Re: [Vo]:Anyone willing to make a bet the eCat is not real?

2013-07-08 Thread Edmund Storms
Yes, I also would like to know when we can consider cold fusion to be accepted. Three kinds of events seem to be relevant. 1. Reviewers allow papers to be published in Science, Nature and Scientific American. 2. Large amounts of investment money becomes available so that finding enough

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-08 Thread Edmund Storms
within the particle. Unless the NAE is produced within the particle, the particle is inert no matter what size it has. Ed On Jul 8, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Eric, ion bombardment has a rich literature containing 90 references in my

Re: [Vo]:Anyone willing to make a bet the eCat is not real?

2013-07-08 Thread Edmund Storms
on cold fusion / LENR. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Yes, I also would like to know when we can consider cold fusion to be accepted. Three kinds of events seem to be relevant. 1. Reviewers allow papers to be published in Science, Nature

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-08 Thread Edmund Storms
micro and nano cavities as the bodies both pack together and their protrusions interlace to form smaller and smaller pockets between the particles. Perhaps a marriage made in heaven if the IR energy feeding plasmons theory has any weight. Fran From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-08 Thread Edmund Storms
touch and arrogate together. The irregular spaces around the point of particle contact is what we are discussing as the NAE. When nanoparticles touch at a contract point, this topology is the strongest generator of electromagnetic resonance. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Edmund Storms

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-08 Thread Edmund Storms
with open voids.. I do recognize the loss of mechanical stress you are citing but I do leave the door open because of Casimir and other forces that these geometries both share. Not asking you to change your preference only to allow for the possibility. Fran From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-08 Thread Edmund Storms
. -Mark Iverson From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:43 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment Of course, Fran, you are correct. But this is irrelevant

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
This paper makes the common mistake of mixing hot- and cold-fusion. These are two separate and independent phenomenon. They are not related except both are nuclear reactions involving fusion. However, the conditions required for initiation and the nuclear products are entirely different.

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
Proton-21 is considered a cold fusion or more properly termed a LENR experiment, so to this referenced experiment should be termed a LENR experiment. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: This paper makes the common mistake of mixing hot- and cold

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
a LENR reaction no matter what LeClair thinks is causing it. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: If we cannot even agree about what the term LENR means or which phenomenon it describes, I see no hope in arriving at any common understanding. Please

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
the LeClair experiment as some other type of hot fusion. The LeClair experiment is demonstrating a LENR reaction no matter what LeClair thinks is causing it. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: If we cannot even agree about what the term LENR means

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
as demonstrated here when you described the LeClair experiment as some other type of hot fusion. The LeClair experiment is demonstrating a LENR reaction no matter what LeClair thinks is causing it. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: If we cannot even

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
understanding of it. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: That is not a useful criteria because the Lawson criteria applies to a plasma and to a reaction that results in the hot fusion products, i.e. neutrons, tritium, etc. Cold fusion does not occur in plasma

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
wrote: The paper says that the experimenters are claiming cold fusion. There is no mixing of fusion definitions involved in this paper to my understanding of it. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: That is not a useful criteria because the Lawson

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
are claiming cold fusion. There is no mixing of fusion definitions involved in this paper to my understanding of it. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: That is not a useful criteria because the Lawson criteria applies to a plasma and to a reaction

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
don't really know the mechanism yet (hence the need for a macroscopic definition). But at least it begins by limiting the scope of hot fusion. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: What are we talking about? (cold fusion [CF], LENR, CANR, LANR, CMNS

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
Perhaps by you. But this difference is clear to people who study the two mechanisms. I suggest you consider this view is correct and not waste time looking for a transition zone. :-) Ed On Jul 7, 2013, at 1:14 PM, H Veeder wrote: Whether the realms of cold fusion and hot fusion are

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
/ a1601db449ca9f86c01f5dc5f80185b1.png On 7/7/13, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Perhaps by you. But this difference is clear to people who study the two mechanisms. I suggest you consider this view is correct and not waste time looking for a transition zone. :-) Ed On Jul 7, 2013, at 1:14 PM, H Veeder

Re: [Vo]:Interesting paper from nature about successful cold fusion experiment

2013-07-07 Thread Edmund Storms
Veeder wrote: I am not looking, but perhaps one should remain open to the possibility. Harry On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Perhaps by you. But this difference is clear to people who study the two mechanisms. I suggest you consider this view

Re: [Vo]:Roland Benabou : Groupthink: Collective Delusions in Organizations and Markets

2013-07-01 Thread Edmund Storms
Alain, theory is not the trap. Arrogance is the trap. Theory has always been with us because that is how all observation is related to all other observations. Even Faraday believed a theory about what he observed. However, he was not as arrogant as are modern physicist. Modern physicists

Fwd: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Begin forwarded message: From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Date: June 29, 2013 8:30:35 AM MDT To: Eric ehonsow...@ix.netcom.com Cc: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines? Thanks Eric! Another voice of reality and reason is heard. I

Re: [Vo]:Consequence of various nuclear reactions

2013-06-23 Thread Edmund Storms
, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Regardless of the mechanism, each proposed nuclear reaction has an energy consequence. Here are the consequences for the three reactions proposed to occur. Notice that to make one watt of power, the rate must be between 10^11

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-23 Thread Edmund Storms
, these are very good questions. At the risk of reiterating points made in older threads, I'll attempt to address each question as I am able. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: In your theory, how is the energy released as kinetic energy without

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-23 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 23, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Eric, some theories, including Ron's, are so filled with arbitrary ideas without any connection to what is known that even starting a critique is difficult

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