Jones, re At that point the zone could serve as a conduit for zero point
penetration in the same or similar way that Puthoff has suggested for the role
of ZPE in maintaining order in all atomic structures. VERY WELL SAID!! And
not to forget an entire tapestry of different zones because every
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131208133616.htm
[snip]In a microscopic high-pressure cooker called a diamond anvil cell (within
a tiny space about as wide as a pencil lead), combine ingredients: aluminum
oxide, water, and the mineral olivine. Set at 200 to 300 degrees Celsius and 2
Axil, we are in agreement over the value of cavitation bubbles which by
constant recreation avoid the need for persistent geometry and may even provide
a control feature for the reaction. I even agree that it is CURRENTLY naïve to
think persistent geometry will long withstand the pressures and
Lou,
I have ben positing this with respect to DCE, the change in casimir
geometry and therefore the restriction of virtual particle sizes is just such
a Maxwellian demon. Powered by change in geometry it creates boundaries that
react asymmetrically to atoms vs molecules. It doesn't
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131203161549.htm
Hi Ruby,
I have been proposing a relativistic interpretation of casimir
effect and all VanderWall based forces like Lamb Shift and spontaneous
emissions.. that is to say that a Puthoff based perspective of all physical
matter balanced by vacuum wavelengths can be modified by
I always favored the Haisch Rhueda analogy of a car driving in a rainstorm, the
density of the rain increases on the windshield as the car accelerates or an
“equivalence” of a gravity well would be wind swept rain gusting against the
windshield would also increase density.. the rain being an
Dave this is correct, high velocity of object thru the ether or in the case of
gravity high acceleration of ether thru the stationary object, all formulas
regarding time dilation have at the heart V^2/C^2 because it is due to the
Pythagorean relationship between the spatial and temporal axii,
The gyroscope never lost energy from the perspective of a local observer who is
also unaware of any time dilation without use of external measurements... The
frame only appears contracted and slower from our frame of observation because
it is displaced into the 4th dimension.
From: David
would be in ideal vacuum,
ideally away from object with mass, at that point, the observer would
theoretically observe/perceive relative time changes from gravity?
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.commailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
The gyroscope never
I am assuming this is a hybrid scramjet technology which only switches over
above a certain altitude and velocity - It might be able to accelerate right
out of the atmosphere but would be without propulsion or control with the added
risk of engine failure to restart. I can see it evolving to
OK, but a Maxwellian demon is normally thought to be thermal.. segregating hot
atoms from cold to form reservoirs which can be tapped for energy. The smart
machine to do this would require energy and processing speed impossible to
scale up, but a self assembled demon that only requires motion
Axil,
Well said, I like the combination of “plasmon-induced
dissociation of H2 on Au” and “As a byproduct of the polariton lifecycle, an
irregular metal surface will produce high energy electrons through this
nanoplasmonic mechanism” , IMHO the “irregular metal surface” is of
Not that I think that gas motion is missing, in fact I believe that both of
these vacuum effects coexist but obviously at different scales with a strong
possibility that random gas motion is locally unchanged by the less local CE
and DCE. Where just gas motion or just CE would be expected to
Massive oil discovery in Southern Australia could dwarf OPEC..
http://moneymorning.com/ob-article/arckaringa-saudi.php?code=131883
Axil,
I like that you focus on the geometry formed by the nanowires
instead of the more popular cracks perspective taken in the case of skeletal
catalysts.. but another property more often associated with Casimir papers is
rigidity and I think this plays an important part in
I wonder if the plasma forms the Rydberg blocade effect where the laser beams
have the photon pairing that Axil recently cited. If you have photons
interacting then you also have the potential for new physics.
Fran
-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
Peter,
Reverse engineering is what convinced me that anomalous heat is
for real, I knew the math was beyond my skill set as an electronics technician
with some undergrad classes in physics but reverse engineering often pays off
in electronics when the theory eludes us. I ASSUMED
Maybe this is why Venus rotates so slowly while all the other planets that
orbit the sun ccw rotate much faster. Rotation being driven by a Tesla ether
eating dynamic/whirlpool instead of opposing it.. all the other kids in the
pool are in opposition to the direction Venus wants to make the
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/09/130909131230.htm
Vladimir Putin today seemed to attribute the horrendous recent events in
Eastern Ghouta to the Syrian rebels and, with that in mind, the following
Youtube video from last year, apparently showing Syrian Jihadists testing
self-produced chemical weapons on rabbits, is relevant:
If Obama gets his way, I’m afraid there’ll be many more stories like this one:
http://tinyurl.com/max5tmw
Charles
From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
Sent: 05 September 2013 06:38
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT]Shocking Story That Could Derail Attack on
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/09/130903194159.htm plasmonic
confinement of light /small gaps wavelength trap light.
Fran
start to optimize
the properties. Perhaps the cost barrier to building active geometry will be
breached by this technology?
Fran
From: Roarty, Francis X
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 5:17 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: could be useful to LENR as well?
http://www.sciencedaily.com
Could this man be the reason?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/04/francois-hollande-photo-news-ag
encies
-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com]
Sent: 03 September 2013 23:44
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT]Shocking Story
What sense indeed? http://rt.com/news/syria-investigate-un-chemical-116/
-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com]
Sent: 28 August 2013 20:27
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Syrian gas attacks...
Also relevant - From Scientific American
Terry,You know I have an idea that UFO drives may be based on the same
phenomena as LENR and the relativistic interpretation of the hydrino and
casimir effect where time and distance get modified by suppressing longer
virtual particles to fit between conductive barriers smaller than their
Dan,
I'm not sure arcing is really a flaw, it may be a feature. Arcing may be
needed to keep up the population of monatomic hydrogen. Periods of time in
this environment may also be misleading considering the claims of anomalous
decay rates for radioactive gas.
Fran
From: Daniel Rocha
I want to go peacefully in my sleep, not screaming and terrified like everyone
else in my car.
From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Alain Sepeda
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:10 AM
To: Vortex List
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Does this go to p. 31?
I don't think there is any denying the plasma is there..hence the descriptive
name Black Light Power adopted by Mill's but yes to only mention the heat shock
assumes the audience is already aware that this is but one factor combined with
required geometry of conductive surfaces and as yet
Peter,
My concept of a geometry induced environment may give you less
indigestion, not because it denies the importance of cracks, but because it
only provides an intermediate source of energy that is not nuclear. Cracks are
a concise description of dynamic casimir geometry, gas atoms that
I agree that a time out is necessary, It is a huge anomaly that either needs to
be explained OR retracted.
Fran
From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:33 AM
To: John Milstone
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:just published -with permission- a paper about
Jed,
I agree but after the odd spectrum shifts reported by Black Light and
the anomalous decay rates of radioactive gas I think any magnetic measurements
of the active region should be based on very basic attractive force.. I suspect
that the environment responsible for spectrum
opinion of how it might work,
if it turns out to be correct.)
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:32 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Wed, 7 Aug 2013 18:23:01 +:
Hi Fran,
In IRH, the proton orbits the electron.
The vastly larger mass of the proton is why
Hi Robin,
We are at opposite opinions regarding IRH once shrunk... is there any
reason you think IRH would want to stay shrunk? The Puthoff model posits that
virtual particles push the electron away from the nucleus in opposition to the
electrical attraction establishing a balance..
I think the rate of new demos and infrastructure will soon uncover the smoking
gun, The cork is off the bottle and the genie is already making its presence
known in more and more labs.. give it a few more months and a couple more
competitors to announce their claims.. it is the nature of
Mark,
Just finished Puthoff’s 2012 paper and although I like his conclusion below I
still feel he is avoiding giving credit to the creation and annihilation of
pairs as powering all atomic and subatomic motion, he refers to a “balance”
between photon emission and ZP absorption but appears to
On the off-chance, you might try adding potassium carbonate to your mix,
given the info mentioned here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg84258.html
Potassium carbonate (and sodium bicarb?) also seem to behave energetically
in the video shown here:
I like the temp criteria of Debye for polaritons and Curie point to avoid
parasitic magnetic losses due to nickel. IMHO the curie temp is being
achieved in the NAE .. we simply can't instrument this fleeting geometry to
measure the temp. As long as the NAE is in proximity to the polaritons
It would be a great excuse to re-run the English demo with a full 8 hr vacuum
on the argon so they get to full output and then let Jed take a look at that
steam output.. just venting the steam outside the room so we can see it on
video to see if any portion is dry would be a big boost... In
?
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
We Also learned importance of exceeding Debye temp but regarding lack of
dependence on isotopes I think this reflects just how marginal the
resistive heating method is compared to using spark plugs. Rossi and Mills
Harry, -6C is 21.2 F...below freezing.. perhaps this is why Pd research has
been so sluggish? Some small population of Arrata's Pd atoms get this cold and
be responsible for life after death reports? I don't know if anyone has ever
thought to cool the Pd under test. ...
Fran
From: H Veeder
Jones,
f/h, hydrino AND relativistic hydrogen are all the same. I have always
supported this hypothesis as the most likely source of the energy if not the
primary source [relativistic/ZPE], or at very least the necessary bootstrap to
enable the nuclear path theories. As far as the large
We Also learned importance of exceeding Debye temp but regarding lack of
dependence on isotopes I think this reflects just how marginal the resistive
heating method is compared to using spark plugs. Rossi and Mills will likely
adopt this method of stimulus if they haven't already done so.
Fran
Just watched this fascinating series of videos by Renzo Mondaini, kindly
dubbed to English from the Italian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEceEHgaXoU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MymFcb9U1Ck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MymFcb9U1Ck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y47MslfkdYQ
Jones, nice factoid, I never considered ionic current of hydrogen in redundant
ground states (which have accentuated magnetic properties due to inverse
square) would result in huge magnetic fields. Defkalion clearly has a thermal
gradient between the material warmed by heaters and the area
Test is looking professional so far and promising. One concern for me though
is that after all that careful flow calibration, they switched the water
flow from bucket to sink - thereby changing the system under test. For
example, by restricting water flow using a hidden control valve, they might
Shows COP of 5
.
Craig
On 07/22/2013 07:13 AM, Charles Francis wrote:
Shows COP of 5
There's recordings below in various parts - sound not working at first.
From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com]
Sent: 22 July 2013 14:26
To: John Milstone
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo
It's offline...
2013/7/22 Charles Francis fran
Jones put the concept into a generic form that still demonstrated how the
argument hinges on COE. IMHO the mainstream wrongly assumed that the generic
case for random motion of gas expands into a law. I am convinced that this
energy source can be exploited by changes in Casimir geometry
Bob, Another possibility is that a quantum state of plasmon polariton
condensate needs to form ahead of the reaction to divide the energy equally
instead of destructive hot spots. Axil has made some very plausible posits
regarding Plasmonics that act both as an energy buffer to soften
Likely this has been discussed on list before, but here goes:
Concerning his recent patent update, Andrea Rossi apparently removed claims
to the catalyst (re: the Cat in E-Cat) and it was suggested that this might
have to do with prior use of his secret ingredient (i.e., perhaps he
borrowed
to be the binding energy of the electron for a hydrino molecule.
Lehigh's exhaustive
evaluations have found no other explanation for this peak.
From: Charles Francis [mailto:fran...@datacomm.ch]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:30 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Potassium Carbonate
special
affinity for UV (e.g. ozone layer).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23226798
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1085438_is-rust-the-key-to-cleaner-solar-generated-hydrogen
From: Charles Francis
Concerning his recent patent update, Andrea Rossi apparently removed
of experimental observations of electrons in condensed matter?
Could 'hydrinos' be electrons as quasi-particles in quasi-orbtals?
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.commailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
Charles,
Jones Beene often reiterates
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130710141854.htm
researchers at MIT have discovered a new method to trap light that could find a
wide variety of applications.
The mentioned NASA replication (Tech Memorandum 107167) is available here:
http://coldfusionnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/19960016952_1996035672.p
df
Incidentally, an extract of a NASA presentation following their trip to see
Rossi's E-Cat can be found here:
On 7/9/13 Jones said [snip] To explain why microscopic gaps enhance radiant
heat transfer,
a new theory of radiative heat transfer based on cavity quantum
electrodynamics (QED) is proposed. [/snip]
Jones,
So Thomas knew already something was going on at this geometry in the
and complex shape does not have. That is the only difference between
our views about a gap.
Ed
On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Ed,
I don't understand why you are so reluctant to consider the gap
between nanoparticles as capable of supporting NAE
Ed,
I don't understand why you are so reluctant to consider the gap
between nanoparticles as capable of supporting NAE. The geometry is essentially
the inverse of a skeletal catalyst- I am more likely to believe the particles
are inert and solid - only the geometry formed
Jed
In the comments you wrote: Also the effects are not weak. Heat has been
detected at 100 W with no input by Toyota and others, lasting up to 3 months
continuously, and tritium has been measured at 10E18 times background.
I've read at least one Toyota LENR paper, but can't recall the
* Department of Chemistry, Burlington, VT 05405, USA
* Title: A possible role for hydrogen-induced lattice migration in alloy
materials processing
Abstract
Evidence for hydrogen-induced lattice migration leading to rearranged lattices
is given based on
Jones, you are positing a lot in this sequence of IR stimulation to the SiC
tube in which the SS reactor is nested, the possibility of SS as acting like
a membrane for f/h formed in the catalyst is intriguing. I agree that ZPE is
far more likely than people have so far been willing to
I KEEP SAYING, ITS ALL ABOUT RESONANCES.
Mark, so a lower temp correlates to a larger cavity? I am trying to imagine
this but sticking on heat sinking vs heat emission, can heat sinking have a
resonance where it sinks better? 50 times better? I like the concept but is
there any foundation?
Fran
, such as alcohols, in
space
-Mark
From: francis [mailto:froarty...@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 7:04 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.commailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: re: [Vo]:Of Reaction Rate and Resonances...
I KEEP SAYING, ITS ALL ABOUT RESONANCES.
Mark, so a lower temp correlates
much in detail...
-Mark
From: Roarty, Francis X [mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:11 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.commailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Of Reaction Rate and Resonances...
Hi Mark,
Ok not cavities. Are you saying these internal
Axil, interesting speculation but I only see LENR as the power source for
the microwaves feeding the EM drive. The tapered microwave cavity is CLOSED
-the system is a Faraday shield and a magnetically transparent window would
release the working medium.
Fran
Axil Axil
Axil,
The waveguide and the microwaves delivered to it are the medium
for the EM drive, there is no hydrogen or Ni powder involved although I
suspect it might benefit from it but creating a magnetically transparent
window would degrade the cavity- perhaps an aperature with the proper
I have speculated previously that the EM drive is a form of Puthoff vacuum
engineering and Sawyers' claim that it is based on SR is in agreement with
my relativistic interpretation of Casimir effect which casts fractional
hydrogen as Lorentzian contractions. I am suggesting the focused
Could we consider conversion of normal hydrogen orbitals to progressively
smaller fractional values as a target for momentum sharing? I suspect h
molecules opposes the motion between regions of different suppression geometry
much more than h1 and may result in disassociation, like a Pd
Jones,
Nice prediction and something I will watch for.. so does the present
temp of Hot Cat reflect half wave stimulation?
Fran
_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:55 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Alain,
I hadn't kept up with the EM drive, great to hear it is
producing thrust! I have supported it in the past as a related technology and
made a response to a comment at
http://www.me-sapiens.com/the-e-cat-and-the-emdrive-two-unicorns-that-might-change-the-world-tomorrow/
I know the resistive IR is much lower than the anomalous spectrum
reported by Mills but if it causes the plasmons in the active material to
resonate at a higher harmonic this would bring it much closer. I also wonder
about the applicability of spectrum measurements to the active
http://www.itn.co.uk/And%20Finally/78885/dynamo-levitates-on-the-side-of-a-d
ouble-decker-bus
the plasmons in the active material to resonate at a
higher harmonic this would bring it much closer.
The frequency of light in the hot spot is changed from infrared to the color
blue in the range correspond to a blue spectral range with hw ≈ 3.13 eV.
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Roarty, Francis X
11:23 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?
-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X
I also wonder if resonance can occur between fractional states where f/h2
disassociates and recombines in synch with the plasmon resonance
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Subject: RE: [Vo]: About the March test
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:53:34 +0200
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? Does each site only couple to the adjacent sites or does
the effect penetrate far into the material? I wonder about the consequences
associated with these different reaches.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.commailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
To: vortex
I went looking for temporal anomalies related to casimir effect. This link,
http://www.andersoninstitute.com/casimir-effect.html
is an excellent review and update but did not lend much support to my quest
despite the title. There was also an important reminder regarding the real
world limits
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Casimir Effect -great summation!
From: Roarty, Francis X
I went looking for temporal anomalies related to casimir effect. This link,
http://www.andersoninstitute.com/casimir-effect.html
Fran,
Don't know if you have already mentioned this paper
Mark,
Nice find! It should reveal sub harmonics for manipulating h
but regarding f/h it brings up an interesting question, does the spectrum
broadening mean the fractional orbits are at different frequencies, and if so
are they nice orbital steps ½ to 137? Or is the shift
The 16th subharmonic would be very weak but I was hoping this line of
investigation might reveal if fractional orbitals result in a red shift as the
normal emission translates out of the vacuum suppressed region where it
originated. Or from another perspective if the 15.4 THZ entering the
Very possible, The broadened emissions are from the hydrino contribution, the
hydrogen's spatial motion has already been reduced by nano confinement and
then longer vacuum wavelengths are suddenly suppressed by the local geometry.
My posit is that these fractional orbits are negative inertial
Founder Sonny White pursues casimir force to steal momentum from virtual
pairs.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20110023492_2011024705.pdf
No, I took it as a compliment and it really is a good thread..just a simple
misunderstanding on Kevin's part, so easy to mix threads here lately as they
seem to be converging that confusion is to be expected :_)
Fran
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Guys,
I think the redundant ground states make a big difference to temperature when
gas loads heavily into these confined regions, the clusters that form in these
cavities exist in a region where longer vacuum wavelengths are excluded. This
is exactly opposite to gas atoms with near luminal
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.netmailto:zeropo...@charter.net wrote: This assumes that
the NAE are all less than a few atom diameters in size... I reject that. Why
couldn't they be 10s or 100s of atoms across? In addition, there MUST be a
physical/size
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency
How does this theory select nickel with and even number of protons and an even
number of neutrons as the feedstock for LENR?
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.commailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
Axil's citation regarding 32 out of sync metronomes end up synchronizing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFc4wriBvE provides a lot of insight on
entanglement threshold, did you note how the platform on which all the
metronomes rested was free to move and that the pendulums were all aligned to
, If the motion
of the pendulums is large then harmonic non linearities might creep in due to
the return force for each pendulum being determined by the sine of the
displacement.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.commailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
in areas of dipole
condensation formation.
***Frances, do you have links to these 2 papers?
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.commailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
Kevin,
A recent citation by Jed
http://coldfusionnow.org/nanoscale-ag-may-decrease
Another Florida free energy start-up: http://www.mistenergysystems.com
Any thoughts on their claims and the supposed Hydrogen Bond Energy?
http://blog.hasslberger.com/docs/Hydrogen_Bond_Explosions.pdf
Just as a lit match releases the energy contained in gasoline, our hyper
speed impact
Kevin, nice citation, frequency division of photons along with Axil's citation
below of total entanglement after a 20% threshold is achieved both support
each other and the speculation regarding a thermal isotropy and spectrum
shift.. Temperature and frequency are evenly divided to the
Jed,
Reifenschweiler effect is the oddball where radioactivity of
tritium actually declined while loaded in titanium by 28%. Most of the
anomalous claims in this field have been for accelerated radioactive decay or
excess heat. Anomalous cooling and delaying of the half life
Kevin,
A recent citation by Jed
http://coldfusionnow.org/nanoscale-ag-may-decrease-the-radiation-of-cesium-134-and-137-by-lenr-transmutation/
makes an important point regarding your frequency division. Dr. Iwasaki's
report is that he claims to have permanently reduced radioactivity
So in 2012 each Dutch agricultural worker generated an average personal
export revenue of 112'276 Euros, in addition to the local produce for the
Dutch market.
Charles
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 June 2013 23:15
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
Was ENTANGLEMENT THRESHOLDS FOR RANDOM INDUCED STATES
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=subject:%22Re%3A
+%5BVo%5D%3AENTANGLEMENT+THRESHOLDS+FOR+RANDOM+INDUCED+STATES%22 but
After reading Axil's citation
On Sat 6/8/13 Harry said: Would you agree that a violation of the 2nd law
of thermodynamics is
equivalent to violating conservation of momentum while still obeying
conservation of energy?
Harry,
I am saying there IS an energy source, That the NAE taps zerp point energy
to perform work,
On Thursday June 6th Harry said
Ok, I realise why we diverge in our approaches to your model. I don't start
with the assumption that the lattice is in a state of thermal equilibrium.
I assume the presence of thermal fluxes and perhaps other energy fluxes
as well which can do small amounts of
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