Global Warming 'Skeptic' Never Really Was - Media's portrayal of scientist wrong
Capitol Confidential ^ | 8/4/2012 | Tom Gantert
http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/17305
The mainstream media is celebrating a physicist who allegedly did a U-turn on
his global warming views and now
Didn't Adolf Hitler apply social Darwinism to economics as well as politics on
a massive scale?
Fiofrst few of 86,000 Google hits on social darwinism and adolf hitler
Social Darwinism
www.mrdowling.com/706-socialdarwinism.htmlCached - Similar
Adolf Hitler's racial theories were
impossible phenomena, and all sorts of supposedly
crackpot claims.
BTW, can I get in on that $100 bet? I doubt you'll get banned.
Kevmo
--- On Sun, 7/29/12, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
is primarily on the abiogenesis focus. Do you have
such a one-stop shop recommendation for looking into abiogenesis?
Kevmo
--- On Mon, 7/30/12, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
I read the literature. That is why I know that what you state is wrong.
And for two reasons:
1 - Insurance companies and epidemiologists have good, reliable data.
Climatologists don't
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http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_monsoon-2012-is-it-the-worst-in-six-decades_1722413
Monsoon 2012: Is it the worst in six decades?
This is a predicted result of globalwarming
, but
enough for now. It ceases to be real science as soon as it refuses to be
challenged.
Dave
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From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Aug 1, 2012 2:29 am
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http
...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Aug 1, 2012 4:32 pm
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The failure of the Indian electric grid basically stems from the inability of
government to adapt to a unexpected situation. In this era of global warming
large
, not a change in
the flux of visible light irradiating the earth.
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
From: dlrober...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:38:22 -0400
I suspect that global warming is a real process that has been around for
essentially
, not a change in
the flux of visible light irradiating the earth.
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
From: dlrober...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:38:22 -0400
I suspect that global warming is a real process that has been around
temperature, not a
change in the flux of visible light irradiating the earth.
--
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
From: dlrober...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:38:22 -0400
I suspect that global warming is a real
maye is it, like LENR rejection by sciencence administration,
a consequence of bad governance, linked to weak georvernment, free market.
in france when the big two tempest of 99 crossed and devasted the
country, electricity was reconnected quite quickly by the state company,
strongly controlled
Correction required:
If you say you know you only damage your *credulity* as a LENR applications
expert.
Should read
If you say you know, you only damage your *credibility* as a LENR
applications expert.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed said:
I
Warming hits 'tipping point'
Siberia feels the heat It's a frozen peat bog the size of France and
Germany combined, contains billions of tonnes of greenhouse gas and, for
the first time since the ice age, it is melting
- The Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian, Thursday 11
Jed:
Don't blame me for your lack of clearly stating what's in your head! With
as many scientific papers that you've read, I would have hoped that you'd
be much more careful when trying to make a case in this kind of a technical
forum. not everyone here is as up to speed on topics being
Le Jul 30, 2012 à 11:12 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com a écrit :
If you say you know you only damage your credulity as a LENR applications
expert.
Freudian slip. :)
Eric
, 2012 7:46 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
I read the literature. That is why I know that what you state is wrong. And
for two reasons:
1 - Insurance companies and epidemiologists have good, reliable data.
Climatologists don't
-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
I tend to agree with Bruno's statement:
. how do climatologists do this, bearing in mind that the results should
take thousands
From Jojo
I already know the answer to my question.
While I know this was addressed specifically to Mr. Rothwell...
Let me just say that I know I ain't perfect. There are many gaps in my
formal education. There are many mysteries of the universe I'd love to
solve, or at least get a
Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
In Jed's mind, AGW definitely occurs and it is going to result in a Huge
Environmental Catastrophe. Why how could it not be so - a bunch of
experts said so. . .
If I had said any of that stuff, I would not believe me either!
So Jed, you are so
, 2012 9:04 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
In Jed's mind, AGW definitely occurs and it is going to result in a Huge
Environmental Catastrophe. Why how could it not be so - a bunch of
experts said so
, Jul 31, 2012 2:46 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Warming hits 'tipping point'
Siberia feels the heat It's a frozen peat bog the size of France and Germany
combined, contains billions of tonnes of greenhouse gas and, for the first time
since the ice age
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
I read the literature. That is why I know that what you state is wrong. And for
two reasons:
1 - Insurance companies and epidemiologists have good, reliable data.
Climatologists don't. It is not their fault, is it just
of
physics have been modified and over turned over the years.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 31, 2012 4:36 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
I tend to agree with Bruno’s
Akira wrote:
By the way, leaving the scientific climate debate aside, statistically
speaking, even if we're currently warming, or even if global temperatures
will keep increasing for some more time, we're actually overdue for a new
ice age. I'm serious. This is the Vostok ice core temperature
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:25 AM
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I hope that this does not happen for all of our sakes. It may be too late
for us to avert this scenario.
I was driving down I-95 recently and somehow I set my GPS to show elevation
Le Jul 30, 2012 à 12:36 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com a écrit :
Reality check people. Environmentalism and Global Warming hoopla is not
about catastrophe or overpopulation or unsustainability. It's about a
growing pantheistic religion movement. A movement that would have you
worship
founded climate skeptic changes sides
Le Jul 30, 2012 à 12:36 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com a écrit :
Reality check people. Environmentalism and Global Warming hoopla is not
about catastrophe or overpopulation or unsustainability. It's about a growing
pantheistic religion movement
From Jojo,
Indeed it is getting silly Silly how people jam their beliefs
of AGW down your throat. There is NO AGW. But even if there was,
as many people said here, I'd rather have it warmer than colder.
Colder weather is more an environmental catastrophe than weather
that is
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
Every step
would be progress in technology, and would ultimately lower the cost of
energy.
Unfortunately, I fail to see how every measure or technology proposed so
far is aimed to ultimately lower the cost of energy.
Which one would not?
: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:44 PM
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Le Jul 30, 2012 à 12:36 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com a écrit :
Reality check people. Environmentalism and Global Warming hoopla is not
about catastrophe
...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2012 3:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Le Jul 30, 2012 à 12:36 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com a écrit :
Reality check people. Environmentalism and Global Warming hoopla is not
about
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
From Jojo,
Indeed it is getting silly Silly how people jam their beliefs
of AGW down your throat. There is NO AGW. But even if there was,
as many people said here, I'd rather have it warmer than colder
term, as it would open up more farm land.
Jojo
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From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:43 AM
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I regret the tremendous waste of money which will occur all
Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2012 3:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Le Jul 30, 2012 à 12:36 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com a écrit :
Reality check people. Environmentalism and Global Warming hoopla
Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
But that my friend is what Jed is doing with his incessant talk of Global
Warming, Darwinian Evolution and all other leftist socialist ideas.
Darwinian evolution is a leftist socialist idea?!? Are you serious? Again,
I have to ask, is that supposed to be a
:* Monday, July 30, 2012 8:00 PM
*Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
From Jojo,
** **
Indeed it is getting silly Silly how people jam their beliefs
of AGW down your throat. There is NO AGW. But even if there was,
as many people said here, I'd
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
3) Removal sequestration of CO2 from atmosphere either as limestone deep
in the ocean or under land requiring lots of LENR HP
I have a chapter on how to reverse global warming in my book. What we may
need is reverse combustion. You convert CO2 into
Jed,
I agree. There are MANY solutions to our current problems if energy
becomes inexpensive. I was thinking bury the CO2 as CaCO3 as mother nature
does but oils would probably work also.
It think any/all of these solutions are a much better idea than walking
away from a coastal catastrophe.
I wrote:
Then we sequester the deadwood from the resulting climax forests.
Depending on the forest it takes 50 to 100 years to reach climax, so there
is no rush.
I mean we bury the deadwood underground. Perhaps we should first bake it,
to make charcoal, putting the water and other
I'm thinking about starting a contruction business for Houses that can from
float up to 100 ft. above the foundation. Another idea is to start
building and/or re-introduce amphibious cars and/or House Boats.
We know the flood is coming; it is no surprise, so lets start making
plans
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree. There are MANY solutions to our current problems if energy
becomes inexpensive.
We should pick the solution that is cheapest, or that produces the most
profit. I think growing wood will remain profitable long into the future.
I expect to
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*From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:43 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
I regret the tremendous waste of money which will occur all over the world
that sea level rise
I wrote:
I was thinking bury the CO2 as CaCO3 as mother nature does but oils would
probably work also.
I do not think that nature buries CO2. . . .
Ah. I misunderstood. You are saying bury it as calcium carbonate, not as a
gas.
Well, whatever is cheapest and most convenient.
There
On 7/30/2012 3:27 PM, Chemical Engineer wrote:
It seems to me that if LENR is real and scalable and we have approx 50
years to turn things around, some new industries that should arise,
based upon sound scientific data are:
1) Cooling of oceans to stable, pre-industrial temperatures using
The profit motive can change the way farmer’s think about their waste
streams including all sorts of manures produced by domesticated farm
animals and farm crop residue like easily gathered corn stover: i.e. from a
nuisance to a lucrative profit center.
All that is required is to delay the
I wrote:
There might be market for carbon or carbon compounds on the Moon or Mars
for all we know. We might send millions of tons a day up by space elevator
and dispatch it around the solar system. I doubt that will happen, but you
never know.
This may sound utterly impractical. You might
Worried about sea level rise? Just pump seawater up into the middle of
Antartica, it will freeze and reduce sea level and no need to
desalinate. The central Arctic never gets warm enough for ice to melt, at
best it sublimes (like Greenland apart from a surface melting about every
150 years, one
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:20:49 -0400
David L Babcock ol...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
On 7/30/2012 3:27 PM, Chemical Engineer wrote:
It seems to me that if LENR is real and scalable and we have approx 50
years to turn things around, some new industries that should arise,
based upon sound
Such interplanetary geoengineering is not a good idea. Please leave mother
nature alone in terms of the amount of carbon we can get our hands on. The
real long term danger to humankind is the next ice age. JoJo is right, if
we use all our CO2 reserves now, we will not be able to stop the new
catastrophe.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 4:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
As the ice recedes, there will be a redistribution of land area among the
nations of the earth
Pick an optimum parts per million CO2 level:(350? ….The way climate is
now) and keep it there). LENR can enable this sort of climate management.
I agree, no need to over-engineer. Seems like even with a new ice age
LENR will make living in the snow ice cozier.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:06
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
No, I don't care if Bangladesh sinks beneath the Global-Warmed ocean.
If you mean that, you are an inhuman monster. This is like saying you don't
care about the ~50,000 people who die from filthy water every week, most of
them children under age 5.
At
Engineer [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 12:27 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
It seems to me that if LENR is real and scalable and we have approx 50 years
to turn things around, some new industries that should
cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Pick an optimum parts per million CO2 level:(350? ….The way climate is now)
and keep it there). LENR can enable this sort of climate management.
I
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:19:34 -0400
Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
No, I don't care if Bangladesh sinks beneath the Global-Warmed ocean.
If you mean that, you are an inhuman monster.
You have to have priorities. Mine are for my own people. If you really
care about the miseries
*Just pump seawater up into the middle of Antartica, it will freeze and
reduce sea level and no need to desalinate.*
Antarctica is the problem, The average Anicteric temperature will
eventually get above freezing and no ice will form there.
While there is ice in Antarctica, the global
, July 30, 2012 2:20 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
No, I don't care if Bangladesh sinks beneath the Global-Warmed ocean.
If you mean that, you are an inhuman monster. This is like saying you don't
our actions end up making
the overall situation worse since we do not know the consequences
associated with them.
Dave
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From: Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded
of time between
heating and the following ice age which would be a far worse catastrophe.
Dave
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From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 4:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
If the history of natural disasters has taught us anything, it’s that the
inherent powers that get unleashed over this planet make even the most
powerful human inventions look like a pitiful whimper.
That is the wrong lesson. It is a false lesson.
were to be burned?
Have we located and burned 10% of the carbon at our disposal?
Dave
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From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Various
to a worse environment than the one we are trying to improve.
Dave
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From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
:42 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Various proxy measurements have been used to attempt to determine
atmospheric carbon dioxide levels millions of years in the past. These
include boron and carbon isotope ratios in certain types of marine
sediments
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
You have to have priorities. Mine are for my own people. If you really
care about the miseries of the entire planet, I don't see how you
remain sane.
This makes no sense. These are technical problems. If you find a technical
solution your own people you
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Jed, I think Mark is just pointing out that nature has the power to veto
anything that we do in a moment. If one of the super volcanoes erupt, many
of us will be toast. One large asteroid and ...
Super volcanoes are unlikely. The largest asteroid
Jaro has myopic tunnel vision (mixed metaphor?) with thoughts of a
warmer climate making more farmland or making cold areas more
hospitable to humans.
Below is a list of the disadvantages of global warming that I found on
a website. Any advantages from global warming are far outweighed by
these
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:04:35 -0400
Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
This makes no sense. These are technical problems. If you find a
technical solution your own people you can apply just as easily to
everyone else in the world.
Sounds terrific. If people like you want to make sure
.
-mark iverson
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 2:44 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
If the history of natural disasters has taught us anything
, July 30, 2012 2:58 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Jed, I think Mark is just pointing out that nature has the power to veto
anything that we do in a moment. If one of the super volcanoes erupt, many of
us will be toast. One large
or incorrect from information you get on the web, right?
OK Whatever!
Jojo
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From: Jeff Driscoll hcarb...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Jaro has myopic tunnel
Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
None of these effects you mentioned below have been tied to any thing
remotely associated with Warming.
That is incorrect. Everything on the list has been associated with global
warming by experts. That does not mean the experts were correct or that
these
, 2012 3:41 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Jed, I think Mark is just pointing out that nature has the power to veto
anything that we do in a moment. If one of the super volcanoes erupt, many
, at least my dog does not lie.
Jojo
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From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
None of these effects you mentioned
Do we have a climatologist here? That would help the debate.
However, I have to say that I have my doubts when it comes to predictions
by these experts. You see, we do not have any credible scientific model for
weather prediction that works for periods longer than a week, how can we
expect to
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Jed wrote:
“Super volcanoes are unlikely.”
** **
For someone who is so keen on reading history, this statement is a
bewilderment to me. Surely you realize that the SCIENTIFIC evidence for
volcanic eruptions far more powerful than
Bruno Santos besantos1...@gmail.com wrote:
Do we have a climatologist here? That would help the debate.
It would help if people would first read a credible, expert account of
global warming theory!
However, I have to say that I have my doubts when it comes to predictions
by these experts.
From Jojo:
I do not believe in any of your so called Experts.
Especially when these so called Experts have been
caught red-handed manipulating data. There is no
integrity in the Global Warming research world.
These experts lie to advance an agenda.
And Koch founded climate
Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
**
I do not believe in any of your so called Experts. Especially when
these so called Experts have been caught red-handed manipulating data.
I have heard people say that about cold fusion hundreds of times. They
claim that FP cheated, that the data was
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
All that is required is to delay the powering of transportation using LENR
to provide an economic incentive to the framer for liquid fuel production.
The removal of animal waste can be completely automated on the farm for
rapid conversion to $3 a gallon
.
** **
-Mark Iverson
** **
*From:* Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2012 3:41 PM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
** **
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
** **
Jed, I think
I read the literature. That is why I know that what you state is wrong. And
for two reasons:
1 - Insurance companies and epidemiologists have good, reliable data.
Climatologists don't. It is not their fault, is it just impossible to have
good data on the large periods of time required to study
*Are you suggesting that cold fusion might be used in this process? I do
not understand what business model you have in mind.*
You missed the significance in this important sentence of my post regarding
social engineering:
*“All that is required is to delay the powering of transportation using
I think Axil is just having fun. I suspect he is a grad student in physics
somewhere trying to see how many people he can rope into his hypotheticals.
Eric
Le Jul 30, 2012 à 2:14 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com a écrit :
Axil,
You speak of ice receding as though it is inevitable.
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
You missed the significance in this important sentence of my post
regarding social engineering:
*“All that is required is to delay the powering of transportation using
LENR to provide an economic incentive to the farmer for liquid fuel
production.”*
: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
You are gullible. You jump to conclusions. You buy into lies and propaganda
spread by people with an agenda. You think you know more about complex
scientific subjects than distinguished experts do, but you are mistaken. God
knows I have
That's pure Balonium Jed, and you know it. Straw man argument. Utterly
useless and pointless.
Jojo
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From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Bruno
Le Jul 29, 2012 à 1:51 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com a écrit :
Regarding global warming, I have no doubt it is real. To those who have doubts
Concerning doubts about global warming and the connection to greenhouse gases,
I think there are fewer and fewer credible voices attempting to
Jed, there is so much scattered baloney in your post that needs to be
corrected; but I refuse to drag Vortex-l down the pithole of irrelevant
off-topic posts.
Please post your comment in a different forum so that I can answer it.
Jojo
PS. I can't resist; so let me ask you this. What
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Concerning doubts about global warming and the connection to greenhouse
gases, I think there are fewer and fewer credible voices attempting to
claim that this is an open question. I am reminded of the opposition to
tobacco regulation . . .
Well,
Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
**
Jed, there is so much scattered baloney in your post that needs to be
corrected; but I refuse to drag Vortex-l down the pithole of irrelevant
off-topic posts.
Then don't. I suggest you comment only on the parts relating to cold fusion.
I am not sure
Jojo sez:
...
Please post your comment in a different forum so that I can answer it.
.
I've noticed that you occasionally couch your posts-of-disapproval,
pertaining the posting content of others you disagree with, in terms of how
their posts are dragging Vortex-l down into a
Le Jul 29, 2012 à 3:43 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net a écrit :
Actually, IMO, I think you're just trying to stir up the pot a little within
the Collective.
If anyone is guilty of stirring the pot, it was me. My apologies. I knew my
comment would be
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Is that supposed to be joke, or a parody? Sarcasm? It is sometimes difficult
to tell on the Internet. If you are serious, then I think you have no business
accusing me
Message -
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 6:43 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Jojo sez:
...
Please post your comment in a different forum so that I can answer
From Jed:
...
Let us be honest and admit frankly that if cold fusion
succeeds, it will lead to creative destruction on a far
larger scale. It will destroy the entire alternative energy
sector -- solar and wind. Following that, it will destroy
the conventional energy sector: oil,
On 2012-07-29 22:51, Jed Rothwell wrote:
It will not be the beginning of the end in the cold fusion battle
until you start to see similar headlines about major scientists
endorsing cold fusion, especially scientists funded by people whose
interests will be hurt if cold fusion succeeds.
To be
Jojo sez:
...
...This Pantheistic worship system that treats plants and
animals and rocks and rivers and the environment to be
more precious than human life and well-being. This is the
undertone that I find repulsive in your baseless promotion
of Global Warming.
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Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
Even if Global Warming raises Ocean Level a few feet (Which is the worst
case scenario.) it won't submerge Bangladesh. But even if it does, it's
about time they relocate anyways. There're on borrowed time with their
yearly occurence of flooding anyways.
, July 30, 2012 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
Even if Global Warming raises Ocean Level a few feet (Which is the worst
case scenario.) it won't submerge Bangladesh. But even if it does, it's about
time
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