Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-10 Thread H LV
How a request for proper calibration or a clean fork is transformed into persecution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdzqTGmEcZE Harry

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2016-04-10 Thread Craig Haynie
Reading the license agreement, it looks to me like IH doesn't get the option to bail if they don't agree with the result of the 350 day test. As I read it, it looks like their only say in completing this deal, occurred when they agreed with Rossi who would do the independent evaluation. Once

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2016-04-10 Thread Russ George
the major news media, which alone is a mystery. http://atom-ecology.russgeorge.net/2016/04/09/conspiracy-exposed-against-transformational-energy-tech/ From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:31 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. pre

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2016-04-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 3:31 AM, Teslaalset wrote: Rossi points out that the 'old' conditions in the agreement are still met > (implemented with hotcat methods) and that IH therefore should fulfil the > agreed payment. For IH this hotcat knowledge transfer is not

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2016-04-10 Thread Teslaalset
It seems to me that the whole clash between IH and Rossi is not about patents or test results but about progress that Rossi has been making (and probably still is making) which is not clearly included in the agreements. The original agreement was made when Rossi was concentrating on the so-called

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2016-04-09 Thread Daniel Rocha
That's your belief. If you are satisfied with it, then it's good. It doesn't matter now. If what Rossi says is true, the technology will soon spread. Otherwise, it's all a lie. 2016-04-09 22:56 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > > Defkalion never responded to Gamberale. They never

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2016-04-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: That's not true. > > 2016-04-09 13:05 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > >> >> It went under because of the events described in the report. The report >> was published after Defkalion-Europe discovered the fraud, informed the >>

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2016-04-09 Thread Daniel Rocha
That's not true. 2016-04-09 13:05 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > > It went under because of the events described in the report. The report > was published after Defkalion-Europe discovered the fraud, informed the > customers, closed down and liquidated. That's what the report

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2016-04-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: My opinion is that people of DE are liers. > Then why didn't Defkalion publish the facts? Why didn't they deny this report? Also, why did the data they showed at ICCF support Gamberale's claims? A far as I know, DGT was under before any report was

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2016-04-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > JED: "That's absurd. I did nothing to destroy them. I ignored them." > > > Jed Rothwell > 5/17/14 > to vortex-l > Daniel Rocha wrote: > > >> I wish you'd believe me he did not get the result in that way. :)

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2016-04-09 Thread Daniel Rocha
The reason was quite personal. I can tell that now, since too much time has already passed. 2016-04-09 13:00 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha : > A far as I know, DGT was under before any report was released. > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

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2016-04-09 Thread Daniel Rocha
A far as I know, DGT was under before any report was released.

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2016-04-09 Thread Axil Axil
JED: "That's absurd. I did nothing to destroy them. I ignored them." Jed Rothwell 5/17/14 to vortex-l Daniel Rocha wrote: > I wish you'd believe me he did not get the result in that way. :) > Ask him. If Kim tells me he observed experiments

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-09 Thread Daniel Rocha
My opinion is that people of DE are liers.

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2016-04-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > You or all people understand the need to destroy people and put a company > out of business on account of a perceived slight. Defkalion cost you $1000 > on a plane ticket and you did your best to kill that company. > That's absurd. I did nothing to

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-09 Thread Russ George
on Rossi, if he were anything other than honest and earnest he would avoid the courts at all cost! From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 8:00 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 9

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2016-04-09 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Jones Beene wrote: The resolution to this dilemma – and the court may order it – is pretty > simple: to have the system independently tested by a fully qualified ERV – > one with real credentials such as via PhDs from the University of Miami,

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2016-04-09 Thread Russ George
Yes Jed of all people surely does own this comment by Axil as has been shown to be repeated time and time again. From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 5:49 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi Jed, You or all

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2016-04-09 Thread Axil Axil
And yet the Rossi plant is still producing power with a new fuel load on the customer's site and Rossi is not in the shipping containers nor is any IH personnel. On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > > Ø What you say makes no

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-09 Thread Jones Beene
Jed Rothwell wrote: Ø What you say makes no sense. I.H. wants out from under the contract; Rossi wants them to abide by it. The only issue is whether the test proves there was heat or not. Everything hinges on that. If the test showed no heat, that means there is no intellectual property

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2016-04-09 Thread Sean True
>From the earlier posted copy of the agreement between Rossi and IH ( http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Rossi_et_al_v_Darden_et_al__flsdce-16-21199__0001.2.pdf), there is a list of patents included in the licensed IP: 1 - ltalian patent granted for process and

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Axil Axil
Jed, You or all people understand the need to destroy people and put a company out of business on account of a perceived slight. Defkalion cost you $1000 on a plane ticket and you did your best to kill that company. Rossi's situation was far worse. He was forced to spend 1 year working 18 hours

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Lennart Thornros
om:* Lennart Thornros [mailto:lenn...@thornros.com] > *Sent:* Friday, April 8, 2016 4:06 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi > > > > Lots of speculations. > > The good news is thanks to the lawsuit we will soon lear

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Russ George
Unlikely a PR stunt not unlikely a negotiation over the $89 million. From: Lennart Thornros [mailto:lenn...@thornros.com] Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 4:06 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi Lots of speculations. The good news is thanks

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Lennart Thornros
Lots of speculations. The good news is thanks to the lawsuit we will soon learn what an Ecat can do. To me it is amazing that no other indication, and a weak one - the press release mid March, signaled the rift between IH and AR. Maybe Alain is correct the whole lawsuit is a PR job: Wouldn't that

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Alain Sepeda
just a naive/stupid idea ? does IH just want Rossi to bring good and solid evidence to the court, so they have to pay, and then be rich with LENR industry, whoever's technology is used and paid ? after all, who cares if E-cat can be sold. if E-cat is proven to work, instantly thousands of startup

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Axil Axil
IH is in a bad place, they can't produce the E-Cat and Rossi won't tell them how. Rossi will do his best to destroy these people as payback for not playing right by him. On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Axil Axil wrote: > > No, IH

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread H LV
Any chance IH and Rossi have a sense of humor? Harry

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2016-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: No, IH wants to know how Rossi can get a COP of 50 and they can't. > Sure they can. Just pay him $89 million. He would then have to abide by the contract. If, as you say, he does not want to abide by it, he can refuse the money. He is not refusing it. He is

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Axil Axil
No, IH wants to know how Rossi can get a COP of 50 and they can't. Rossi want to hurt IH, its the Italian way. Rossi will try to give IH nothing, give their territory to someone else or just keep it for himself and still get the 90M. After all, that is decent money even if you stand to make

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: Rossi does not need IH anymore and he was looking for a way out from under > the IH contract without giving IH that 50 COP package. > If that were the case, Rossi would simply walk away. Let me remind you he is suing I.H. for $89 million. He wants payment

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi does not need IH anymore and he was looking for a way out from under the IH contract without giving IH that 50 COP package. IH has the COP 6 package but they wanted that real good stuff that Rossi was helding back from IH, On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Daniel Rocha

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Daniel Rocha
He seems to be over aggressive to the point of "almost" lying. I don't know legalese. You see, it's either that or IH is full of shit with their 3 year claim of nothing proved. His sudden attack on IH, only a few days after the report was released, with full disclosure of a conflict, since years

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2016-04-08 Thread a.ashfield
Jed wrote: "Anyone who uses a patented technology must pay royalties. It makes no difference whether you previously had an agreement with the inventor or not." It is only too easy to fight an "improved" patent. The patent fight destroyed the Wright Bros. "The Wrights' preoccupation with

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Axil Axil
What kind of LENR tech did IH buy from Rossi? If the deal was done three years ago, then the COP that should be expected is under 6. Yes, Rossi will produce the new COP 50 systems, and IH will sell them. But Rossi will design that factory for IH and that tech will not be transferred to China.. On

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: > Jed wrote: "Surely they would have to pay royalties in that case." > > Not necessarily. They could claim the agreement was null and void as the > bench mark failed. > Anyone who uses a patented technology must pay royalties. It makes no difference

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread a.ashfield
Jed wrote: "Surely they would have to pay royalties in that case." Not necessarily. They could claim the agreement was null and void as the bench mark failed. Then develop there own device that was different because it had a higher COP. Look at the Wright Bros & Curtis or Bell & Meucci Why

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Axil Axil
Andrea Rossi April 6, 2016 at 4:07 PM Domenico Canino: This time the story goes that “Meucci” has the patent, the industry, the product and whomever will try to compete against us will discover what is there under the tip of the

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: Jed wrote: Ridiculous to assert that IH have not acting in good faith - if > the demo worked they would be the happiest people in the world and would be > on track to make vast amounts of money . . . That wasn't me, but I agree. > Suppose IH thought

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: Rossi was ready to pounce with his lawsuit the moment the 5 days had passed > after the ERV report and he didn't get paid. > It does seem like a lot of work went into the filing. I suppose I.H. was prepared too. Their March 10 statement said, in effect, "we

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread a.ashfield
Jed wrote: Ridiculous to assert that IH have not acting in good faith - if the demo worked they would be the happiest people in the world and would be on track to make vast amounts of money even if they had to hand over 90million they would be doing so with a big smile on their face." I think

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2016-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: I still do not believe that Rossi got the 10 million from the escrow. > That's his version. This is not compatible with IH claiming they were not > to get anything proven in 3 years . . . > Why on earth do you think that Rossi would claim he got the

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi was ready to pounce with his lawsuit the moment the 5 days had passed after the ERV report and he didn't get paid. He had his "plan B" in place as soon as IH showed their true nature. It had to take some time to prepare the case filing; in other words: how far in advance did Rossi see this

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Daniel Rocha
It also could be that IH is lying. The Chinese are bidding to high and want little to do with someone with bad temper, mouthful, that can explode at anytime. And to add to the injury, it also goes against the Confucian culture,

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2016-04-08 Thread Daniel Rocha
I still do not believe that Rossi got the 10 million from the escrow. That's his version. This is not compatible with IH claiming they were not to get anything proven in 3 years, which would include any test. I think aiming for the 89 million implies that Rossi would also automatically would

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > Who could expect justice and morality from a money manager faced with the > prospects of a thousand trillion dollars of revenue at his fingertips. > I would expect justice and morality from such people, in that situation. I have dealt with such people.

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2016-04-08 Thread Axil Axil
1. Mariana October 20th, 2015 at 12:23 AM Dear Dr Andrea Rossi: Why did you write that it is heavy to answer the question about when will it possible to invest in Leonardo Corporation? 2. Andrea Rossi

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2016-04-08 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Ruby, please take a look to my EGO OUT editorial of today. Peter On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Ruby wrote: > > Why would the E-Cat unit sit for a year (back in 2012) with no where to go > for testing when IH brought it for testing in the first place? (Remember >

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jack Cole Yes, and now he's trying to drag Brillouin down with himself and IH. He is claiming that the idea for Brillouin's HHT came from IH. Silliness, since BEC has been working on that idea for years. The difference may be that Brillouin's technology seems more likely to actually

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn wrote: Ridiculous to assert that IH have not acting in good faith - if the demo > worked they would be the happiest people in the world and would be on track > to make vast amounts of money even if they had to hand over 90million they > would be doing

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2016-04-08 Thread Russ George
ideas exchanged but in a heart-beat the snarling mud slingers go after anyone more successful than they are, and they set a very low bar to be measured against. From: Ruby [mailto:r...@hush.com] Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 9:27 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release

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2016-04-08 Thread Ruby
Why would the E-Cat unit sit for a year (back in 2012) with no where to go for testing when IH brought it for testing in the first place? (Remember everyone bashing Rossi for the delay after photos surfaced of the shipment?) Why would IH agree to such an "incompetent" tester?

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2016-04-08 Thread Russ George
on the net here and elsewhere I think there is a remarkable business opportunity for someone to publish a great recipe book for 1001 Ways To Cook Crow. From: Jack Cole [mailto:jcol...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 8:50 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-08 Thread Jack Cole
Yes, and now he's trying to drag Brillouin down with himself and IH. He is claiming that the idea for Brillouin's HHT came from IH. Silliness, since BEC has been working on that idea for years. The difference may be that Brillouin's technology seems more likely to actually work and they are

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2016-04-08 Thread Jones Beene
From: Robert Lynn Ridiculous to assert that IH have not acting in good faith - if the demo worked they would be the happiest people in the world and would be on track to make vast amounts of money even if they had to hand over 90million they would be doing so with a big smile on their face.

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2016-04-08 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
It's possible that IH simply doesn't have the money to pay and they flaked. On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Robert Lynn wrote: > *De-lurks* > > Ridiculous to assert that IH have not acting in good faith - if the demo > worked they would be the happiest people in

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Robert Lynn
*De-lurks* Ridiculous to assert that IH have not acting in good faith - if the demo worked they would be the happiest people in the world and would be on track to make vast amounts of money even if they had to hand over 90million they would be doing so with a big smile on their face. The very

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Frank Znidarsic
It is Rossi that says that the test was OK. According to IH, it was not OK, > because IH says three years without success, not merely 1 year. So, the > money is still in the escrow. Maybe we should ask Steven Krivit. He seems to have the heads up on a lot of this stuff.

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Russ George wrote: You and I agree there is no data from the demo under discussion! So all of > the chatter about whether Rossi does good or bad work is preposterous > untimely speculation. > Rossi has REPEATEDLY done dreadful work. I have followed his work as closely as

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Russ George
and bury great cold fusion tech seem to have come to an end. Not without some howling but that will soon pass. From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 8:56 PM To: John Milstone Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi The good news

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
The good news is that, according to Rossi, the Chinese are now going to use e-cats. So, we will surely have a huge CO2 emission decrease within a few years!

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Russ George
and polite or STFU and wait for the data! If you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything is age old advice that still applies. From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 8:41 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding

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2016-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Russ George wrote: What’s objectionable here is to suggest that the governance of Rossi’s year > long demo has been done without the benefit of hindsight. It’s a > particularly irksome trait to suggest that Rossi et al were/are so > incompetent as to not do a good job this

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Russ George
7, 2016 7:36 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: Clearly many Vorts are attacking Rossi by using such words as ‘scam’ Jones Beene is the only person

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Russ George
boys. From: Lennart Thornros [mailto:lenn...@thornros.com] Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:46 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi Troll is a Swedish word, describing a person who is more in contact withnature than with humans. That person

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Patrick Ellul
Rossi responds back to IH with 3 strong statements. Andrea Rossi April 7, 2016 at 7:27 PM Dear Janne: I have to comment the press release of IH, being a press release and not a forensic act. They made the Lugano reactor ( they also signed it ) they made many replications of which we have due

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > No, the $10 million is definitely not in escrow. > Indeed, Jed is right. From the complaint filed by Leonardo: "58. Upon conclusion of the Validation Test on or about May 2, 2013,the ERV certified that the E-Cat

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2016-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: It is Rossi that says that the test was OK. According to IH, it was not OK, > because IH says three years without success, not merely 1 year. So, the > money is still in the escrow. > No, the $10 million is definitely not in escrow. The documents filed

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Lennart Thornros
Troll is a Swedish word, describing a person who is more in contact withnature than with humans. That person lives in the forest and has superficial capacities. Sometimes not so nice but at least sarcastic. I grow up thinking trolls were real. However I believed in St. Nick (Tomten) as well so

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Russ George wrote: Clearly many Vorts are attacking Rossi by using such words as ‘scam’ > Jones Beene is the only person here who has said that. The only other use of the word is here: ". . . the possibility of him being a scammer is remote." > and trying to disparage

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2016-04-07 Thread Craig Haynie
On 04/07/2016 09:50 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: I am actually trying to defend Rossi, because this time is a big deal. According to the terms of the contract and IH, Rossi only got 1.5million, and nothing from the escrow account. So, for any decent research, well, decent in terms of using

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Russ George
the accusation clouded. From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 6:36 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: What the free fo

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2016-04-07 Thread Russ George
what he had to do to enforce his agreements and right. IH simply ‘blinked’ and did not honor the agreement. From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:10 PM To: John Milstone Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi It is Rossi that says

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Russ George
, 2016 7:02 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com <mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com> > wrote: I am actually trying to defend Rossi, because this time is a big deal. According to the terms of the contract a

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
It is Rossi that says that the test was OK. According to IH, it was not OK, because IH says three years without success, not merely 1 year. So, the money is still in the escrow.

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2016-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: I am actually trying to defend Rossi, because this time is a big deal. > According to the terms of the contract and IH, Rossi only got 1.5million, > and nothing from the escrow account. > No, he got the whole $10 million from the escrow account. He is

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
"According to the terms of the contract and IH, Rossi only got 1.5million", I meant " According to the terms of the contract and IH version, Rossi only got 1.5million". 2016-04-07 22:50 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha : > I am actually trying to defend Rossi, because this time is a

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Daniel Rocha
I am actually trying to defend Rossi, because this time is a big deal. According to the terms of the contract and IH, Rossi only got 1.5million, and nothing from the escrow account. So, for any decent research, well, decent in terms of using massive parallel reactors, he must be on shoe strings.

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Russ George wrote: What the free for all attack on Rossi by Vorts . . . > No one is attacking Rossi. We are reporting news of a lawsuit, and news that I.H. reports they think there is no excess heat. I described errors in the previous Penon paper. Those are all legitimate

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2016-04-07 Thread Russ George
Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: yes Lennert, 'real noise ' of course not the banal rumblings of the many trolls the likes of which are plenti

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2016-04-07 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Russ George wrote: yes Lennert, 'real noise ' of course not the banal rumblings of the many > trolls the likes of which are plentiful in every swirling vortex, alas > trolls are mostly 'floaters' so they aren't flushed away nearly as often

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2016-04-07 Thread Russ George
ng that goes awry. >> >> >> >> *From:* Robert Dorr [mailto:rod...@comcast.net >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rod...@comcast.net');>] >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:55 PM >> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Lennart Thornros
cate all manner of > imagined story elements… all under the supposed watchful eye of a judge who > can be blamed for anything that goes awry. > > > > *From:* Robert Dorr [mailto:rod...@comcast.net] > *Sent:* Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:55 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com &

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Russ George
who can be blamed for anything that goes awry. From: Robert Dorr [mailto:rod...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:55 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi Good old "Tit for Tat". I.H. is obviously disputing the results o

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Russ George
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi Good old "Tit for Tat". I.H. is obviously disputing the results of the year long test based on lack of scientific rigor. One of these years maybe we will find out who has the better lawyer. Robert D

Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Robert Dorr
Good old "Tit for Tat". I.H. is obviously disputing the results of the year long test based on lack of scientific rigor. One of these years maybe we will find out who has the better lawyer. Robert Dorr WA7ZQR On 4/7/2016 12:29 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: See:

[Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

2016-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/industrial-heat-statement-on-meritless-litigation-from-leonardo-corporation-and-andrea-rossi-300248066.html?tc=eml_cleartime Here is the complete text: Industrial Heat Statement on Meritless Litigation from Leonardo Corporation and Andrea Rossi