Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

Hoi, I am getting so pissed off. Let us be realistic. The user experience sucks ... It sucks big time and even though the "community" is comfortable with it, it impedes the use by the people we do it all for. They are the READERS.. they are not the editors and the least this is done for are the pe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

onal harmony among participants, and everyone is hoping to convert > a portion of mobile app users to new contributors. > > Pine > On Aug 14, 2014 11:58 PM, "Gerard Meijssen" > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > I am getting so pissed off. > > > > Let us be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

Hoi, David, who is the community and how do you get members of the community recognise and respect the decisions it does not like that are taken on their behalf by "its" representatives. We do not have one community, we have many. The interests people aim for are diverse and all too often contradic

[Wikimedia-l] Compare person data

Hoi, Amir has created functionality that compares data from en.wp de.wp and it.wp. It is data about "humans" and it only shows differences where they exist. It compares those four Wikipedias with information in Wikidata. The idea is that the report will be updated regularly. The problem we face i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare person data

Hoi, My bad; four sources, three wikipedia ... I do not think in terms of Wikipedias I am afraid. Thanks, GerardM On 19 August 2014 09:58, Cristian Consonni wrote: > Il 19/ago/2014 09:38 "Gerard Meijssen" ha > scritto: > > > > Hoi, > > Amir has create

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare person data

HoI, You are absolutely right.. What is needed is a report that looks good enough for now and a public ie visible place to put it. Thanks, GerardM On 19 August 2014 12:13, Joe Decker wrote: > Pretty sure those are just the :first: 38... Note the q numbers. (They > are ascending and don't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

Hoi, I am happy for you that you think the reader experience is so great in the "devils advocate mode". In reality when I read a Wikipedia article because I want information all too often I hate what I get. The fact that it is the best around does not make me like the lack of clarity, the inconsist

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare person data

Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare person data > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" > > > > Gerard Meijssen wrote: > >> What is needed is a report that looks good enough for now and a public > ie

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

Hoi. I had a look at the youtube video. Really important in this context is the presentation by Dario. In it he shows how editing is taking of from mobile users using tablets. This is a recent shift but the implication as I see it that working on better tooling for mobile / tablet editors will get

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

Hoi, I am so happy that you know so well that all the millions have been wasted. As so often, an opinion is just that. When you want to learn about the effect of the development done, it may be useful to look a bit further afield. Mobile is one area where the development proves really effective. Wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

t understood, I am sorry to say, those who fail to understand this are a problem, a problem that is increasingly cancelling out their future value. Thanks, Gerard On 24 August 2014 12:49, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > hi, > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Gerard Meijssen < > ger

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

community and WMF both want to avoid repeating rollout > problems again and again. > > Pine > > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > In the metrics meeting, a presentation was given t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

Hoi, Actually the issue is no longer only that. It is also very much about how a subset of people high jack the conversation by their uncompromising stance. When they feel they might leave, I personally prefer it when they stop their posturing and decide either way. When they want to stay, they do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

gt; disappointing active editor stats are the biggest worry. > > Thanks, > Pine > On Aug 26, 2014 3:14 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > Actually the issue is no longer only that. It is also very much about > how a > > subset of people high jack

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF against the World? Part 1: Feedback

Hoi, From my perspective, this is a bi-polar view of the world. It does not fit reality. Thanks, GerardM On 28 August 2014 11:45, ; ) wrote: > Dear List, > > here are some impressions that could be useful for further discussion > and solution-finding: > > > ## MISCONCEPTIONS - SITUATI

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF against the World? Part 3: Solutions

Hoi, Given that your view is bi-polar, it is obvious who you side with.. In reality our communities are much more of a collective. There is nothing that gives one person the right to decide for an other and, in reality there is no consensus among the communities. Even within one community there is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

> where the new readers are, but also where the "first edit" > > experience is for most women (and sadly, a corollary to that is that > > they don't try again after their first edit failure). > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 28, 2014, at 4:30 AM, Gerard

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

Hoi, The argument is not at all about the MediaViewer. It is only the latest flash point. Consequently the notion of how hard it is to set a default on or off is not relevant really. When you read the Wikipedia Signpost you read about one of the major German players and it is found necessary to me

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

ip numbers as adequate with > the status quo, do not believe that MV adds value, disagree with the > design of Media Viewer, and are angered by WMF's undemocratic conduct and > arrogant comments. > > This kind of situation is unlikely to have a happy ending without some > conce

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Hoi, When we invest in MT it is to convey knowledge, information and primarily Wikipedia articles. They do not have the same problems poetry has. With explanatory articles on a subject there is a web of associated concepts. These concepts are likely to occur in any language if the subject exists in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

Hoi, This is great fun ... However from the perspective of taxonomy this is not complete at all. What is lacking are the names of the authors and the date of publication. Even this can be insufficient because there are instances where a description with the same name by the same people happened in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > > > > Really, taxonomy is tricky. FYI I have an 80 MB database with ONLY cacti > > and succulents. I learned a lot in the process. > > > > So, have you imported that to Wikidata yet? > _

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

eady redundant because in Wikipedia every species > is notable anyway? > > Kind regards > Ziko > > > Am Montag, 3. Juni 2013 schrieb Gerard Meijssen : > > > Hoi, > > Taxonomy is not the thing that occupies me. It is however something I > have > > expe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] PRISM, government surveillance, and Wikimedia: Request for community feedback

Hoi, From my perspective ... I live outside the USA, PRISM only brings the American people the same surveillance the rest of the world has had for a long time. The only difference is that the pretence that the US populace is not watched is known to be a fiction. Thanks, GerardM On 15 June 201

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Hoi, Please consider there are over 280 Wikipedias in as many languages. In many languages we have few articles. Providing information is our mission. We aim to provide well written articles. The argument is that we do not succeed at that. Actually it is not an argument, it is a fact. When th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with supportof bots)

Hear, hear Thanks, GerardM Op 18 jun. 2013 12:08 schreef "Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada" het volgende: > Seriously, are we discussing again about bot stubs yes, bot stubs no? > > Those users who want to submit complete 10-page articles, can move to the > defunct Nupedia or the 'vibrant' Citize

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

Hoi Steven, When the facts show that having the CAPTCHA is a demonstrable BAD idea. It should be easy to prevent CAPTCHA from being implemented again. I am sure you know who to speak to. Thanks, GerardM On 5 July 2013 21:02, Steven Walling wrote: > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Denny

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Progress...

Hoi, Sorry Fred, I do not like your post. The quote has it wrong because research shows that it is factually wrong. Wikipedia has a better coverage at a superior quality to the encyclopaedia that went before. The only thing I can agree with is that it is available at a much lower cost; it is the c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

Hoi, Quality like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One thing that I learned today is that the Visual Editor will have functionality that only the more accomplished editors will enter directly or they will use templates. With VE these templates are redundant. From my perspective, the future wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiktionary-l] Meeting about the support of Wiktionary in Wikidata

Hoi, Would be interested but I am not "there" ... As are many other people ... Thanks, GerardM On 9 August 2013 06:43, David Cuenca wrote: > Hi, > > If there is someone in Wikimania interested in participating in the talks > about the future support of Wiktionary in Wikidata, we will having a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

Hoi, All we need to do is what we already do: make our content available for free. When we are really in their face that we bring neutral information to everyone, everywhere how and why will they deny us? Thanks, GerardM On 23 August 2013 10:59, Kul Wadhwa wrote: > Emmanuel, > > I have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

Hoi, But when they provide the infrastructure that allows our content to be seen by many more people, they do us a service. In the end it is what we are about. Last thing I heard we were first of all about getting the knowledge out there. Thanks, GerardM On 23 August 2013 12:14, Jens Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

. Rodríguez-Posada wrote: > Looks like NSA has bought some new hard drives and needs moar data. > > > 2013/8/23 Gerard Meijssen > > > Hoi, > > But when they provide the infrastructure that allows our content to be > seen > > by many more people, they do us a se

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

dia should stay far away from this crowd and its "initiatives". Maybe > in the future we should even get more distance between them (Facebook, > Google, etc.) and us. > > Jens > > 2013/8/26 Gerard Meijssen > > > Hoi, > > For your information ... an interview

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

Hoi, HEAR HEAR !! Thanks, Gerard On 3 September 2013 00:17, Tim Starling wrote: > On 31/08/13 15:17, Erik Moeller wrote: > > It could be argued > > that it’s time to draw a line in the sand - if you’re prohibiting the > > use of encryption, you’re effectively not part of the web. You’re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

Hoi, Fred, what is different in your scenario from what happens in the USA ? Thanks, GerardM On 3 September 2013 00:23, Fred Bauder wrote: > > On 31/08/13 15:17, Erik Moeller wrote: > >> It could be argued > >> that it’s time to draw a line in the sand - if you’re prohibiting > >> t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

Fred, Sorry, there is no us. As far as the United States is concerned they allowed themselves to spy on any person who is not one of US to be speid on. Given that our movement is a global movement, the fact that it is based in the US is incidental. Thanks, GerardM On 3 September 2013 14:36

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

Hoi, The most relevant thing is the quality of the service provided. Add to this the limited resources the WMF has. The cost is probably less than what our total cost of ownership would be. It is also not wise to always try to second guess the people who have the responsibility to make these decis

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Google interface to Wikipedia

Hoi, Wikidata has a limit of one link of a Wikipedia article to Wikidata. There is no such thing as a compulsory minimum of two articles. As a matter a fact there are many Wikidata items that have no relations to Wikipedia articles. To make this even more obvious, Wikidata also links to Commons and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global East

Hoi, Every Wikipedia has its own point of view. They are all not neutral if only by omission. Do consider the amount of effort that has gone in the creation of articles relating to the United States of America,. Compare this with the coverage of the Ottoman Empire, given that the English Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global East

Hoi Fred, I have no opinion on the quality of subjects that are in the English Wikipedia. When I state that it is not neutral by omission, it means that the same level of attention does not go to subjects like the Ottoman Empire. Effectively I want more people to write about other cultures and ther

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experience implementing Wikidata

Hoi, Are you going to use this info in a blogpost or something ? If not is it ok for me to do so ?? Thanks, Gerard On 3 November 2013 09:02, Anders Wennersten wrote: > Since August we are implementing Wikidata for the Swedish 290 communes and > 1900 "towns", including automatic update from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

Hoi, Seriously we should never ever be ruled be panic.What you see is bad, no doubt but the notion that we should dump everything because of the latest issue to come along is way overboard. - by stopping the flow on projects like Visual Editor you break dependencies for the work of many deve

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

Hoi I know several authors who publish and use their original text to publish on Wikipedia as well.. This is another source of false positives because they have the copyright to the original source... To recognise this you have to be even more sophisticated. The point I want to make is that having

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

Hoi, I am really interested in how you think this will work out when Commons is going to use Wikidata. The planning is that in half a year the Wikidata team will start work on implementing something for Commons. It will include tagging. So for me a picture will be tagged and indicate who is in a pi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Porn blocking in the UK: en:wp blocks on O2

Hoi, How does this relate to Wikidata ? Thanks, GerardM On 23 December 2013 06:07, geni wrote: > On 22 December 2013 20:51, David Gerard wrote: > > > On 22 December 2013 19:31, geni wrote: > > > On 22 December 2013 13:35, David Gerard wrote: > > > > >> For your amusement: > > >> http://

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

Hoi Tomasz, You have a really strong opinion. When you read this thread, you will notice that it is not appreciated by many and seen as disruptive. Can you appreciate it in this way? You argument about re-users is valid when you turn around the argument as well; as long as we do NOT have a take d

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

Hoi, When you go the way of comparing to Kim Dotcom to make a point, you will have to recognise that the government has been shown to act illegally. Consequently your argument is without real merit. Thanks, GerardM On 31 December 2013 20:45, ??? wrote: > On 31/12/2013 15:01, Yann Forget wr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

Hoi, What effective claim has been made against Kim Dotcom and, THAT is your argument. Thanks, GerardM On 1 January 2014 12:21, ??? wrote: > On 01/01/2014 07:41, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > >> Hoi, >> When you go the way of comparing to Kim Dotcom to make a point, y

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Most viewed articles of 2013, across languages

Hoi, Would it be possible to have it for all languages? Thanks, GerardM On 1 January 2014 20:26, phoebe ayers wrote: > I don't think this has been sent out yet: > http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikitrends/2013.html > > (thanks to Itzik for drawing my attention to it, and Johan for coding it > up

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata, templates, Modules Lua

Hoi, When your question is, is it possible for the work of professionals who write LUA programs to make sense particularly in the bigger WMF context, the context of the 285+ Wikipedias, my answer is yes. What I would like is for them to take up the challenge and internationalise the LUA programs a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Relationship between Wikimedia and oDesk

Hoi, Odesk is the way the WMF pays people who do not live in the USA. What is expected of a contractor or employee is to register the time worked for the WMF and the contractor is paid through Odesk. This has all kinds of legal reasons. When an employee / contractor wants to use Odesk in addition

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement Sarah Stierch

Hoi, It is extremely sad to lose one of our best and brightest. Was there no other way ?? Was this even considered ?? Thanks, Gerard On 9 January 2014 09:16, Andrea Zanni wrote: > +1 Nathan. > > Aubrey > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Nathan wrote: > > > You know what, I think this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] A Multimedia Vision for 2016

Hoi, Fabrice, I very much love the two stories described in the vision. It describes not only a functionality that is technical, it also describes how our community may interact. That is great. What I missed are the consequences of the planned integration of Commons with Wikidata. I blogged about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

Hoi, I want to open up the discussion even wider. The way things are stated is that paid editing is not acceptable. This ukase [1] may be considered best practice for the English Wikipedia, our Wikimedia universe is a bit bigger than that. Wikidata is a completely different beast with completely

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

Hoi, In what language does this "disclosure" have to be ?? Thanks, Gerard On 12 January 2014 12:29, Craig Franklin wrote: > On 12 January 2014 02:58, MZMcBride wrote: > > > Craig Franklin wrote: > > >I think it's actually foolish to try and split hairs over what is > > >acceptable paid ed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

do is promote the use of usability tools... this becomes easier when there are more of them Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 10:34, Jon Davies wrote: > How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) > > > On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

t; 2014/1/15 Jon Davies > > > How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) > > > > > > On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen > > wrote: > > > > > Hoi, > > > One obvious point to start is the functionality of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

Hoi, I am totally with you. However we can only help where we can. Providing the font and make it accessible is one way. Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 11:18, James Alexander wrote: > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > How is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

Chair > > > On 15 Jan 2014, at 09:34, Jon Davies > wrote: > > > > How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) > > > > > >> On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > >> > >> Hoi, > >> One

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

Hoi, This is a truly divisive issue. For many people the notion that you do not need anything proprietary is a powerful motivator to participate. Promoting a stack of software that cannot be taken away because of the whims of a company or country is an integral part to it. From my perspective the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

Hoi, I am happy for people to upload files when we can convert it to another format. Given that the issue is around the ability to re-use media files in the H.264 format, providing these files to our users is exactly the issue that is being discussed. Consequently it is controversial. Thanks,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Speakerthon update

Hoi, You may like this as well :) http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/01/wikidata-wendy-hall-computer-scientist.html Thanks, GerardM On 18 January 2014 17:10, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 18 January 2014 11:29, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > The "Speakerthon" event is in progress at New Broadcas

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

Hoi, I take it that the Hungarian chapter takes part in this? I know other chapters do as well.. Thanks, GerardM On 17 January 2014 18:17, Balázs Viczián wrote: > My five cents here would be that how about considering longer time frames > for grants, like 2-3-5 years (I was too tired to und

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

Hoi, Yesterday I wanted to make a point to a friend. I tried to do it by having the facts that are sourced in the Wikipedia article read by the person who did not have the information available. Reading the article did not really happen because of the problems with the lay-out as presented on the s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

Hoi, It was not a small laptop screen, the screen was big enough... I blogged about it and included screenshots. Thanks, GerardM http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2012/07/can-everybody-read-wikipedia.html On 14 July 2012 19:21, Svip wrote: > On 14 July 2012 18:12, Gerard Meijssen wr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

Hoi, Most people are stupid and they still deserve a great reading experience.. Our aim is to share in the sum of all knowledge with everyone. When people fail to read Wikipedia.. and they do.. there is a reason to do better for them. Any effective measure that provides a better experience for all

[Wikimedia-l] Using Wikisource for typing exercises

Hoi, I am learning Arabic and one of the skills I lack is typing with ten fingers for the Arabic script. On many Wikisources the ProofreadPage extension is installed. What I cannot easily find is where I find the books that need transcription for Arabic. There are many people every year learning o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Creating content in Dari

Hoi, There has not been a request for the Dari language. A request for Dari will be seriously considered because its similarity to Farsi or Persian is such that it is mutually intelligible. Thanks, GerardM On 5 October 2012 09:45, James Heilman wrote: > The language Dari is in the incubat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

Hoi, This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal process because from now they are just like any other new project in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

Hoi, From my perspective, what is relevant is that we do not want to interfere with languages that exist in Wikitravel. It is quite likely that most of these languages are quite good from a localisation point of view. What makes sense if several languages are not in Wikivoyage yet, we can extend o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

Hoi, How many original Wikivoyage projects exist that have not been automagically exported exist ?? With Portuguese as the example, it would make sense to have it started in its own wiki. The language committee has made an exception for existing projects. The Portuguese project exists and as such i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Alpha version of the VisualEditor now available on the English Wikipedia

Hoi, I agree that it is of great use to any and all projects. No argument there. My point is that when it works for any Devanagari language Wikipedia it will work equally well for the corresponding Devanagari Wikibooks. The one thing particular to the English Wikipedia is that it has its own hardw

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Alpha version of the VisualEditor now available on the English Wikipedia

https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/12/07/inventing-as-we-go-building-a-visual-editor-for-mediawiki/ > [2]: http://parsoid.wmflabs.org:8001 > [3]: http://parsoid.wmflabs.org > [4]: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid > [5]: #mediawiki-parsoid @ Freenode, warning: parsoid is a pretty complex >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reappointment of Bishakha Datta as WMF Trustee

Hoi, Good news :) Congratulations :) Thanks, GerardM On 28 December 2012 16:39, Geoff Brigham wrote: > I am happy to report that Bishakha Datta has been reappointed as a Trustee > on the WMF Board for another two-year term. > > The Board resolution may be found here: > > > http://wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote: > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning proces

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

d hard to > make it happen. > > The community of Portuguese speakers for sure appreciate these efforts. > > Tom > > 2013/1/3 Gerard Meijssen : > > Hoi, > > The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

Hoi Etienne, Thank you for informing us about the Assamese Wikisource; it is live as well :) A great day :) Thanks, GerardM On 4 January 2013 00:40, Etienne Beaule wrote: > Everyone forgot the assamese wikisource. > > > On 2013-01-03 19:37, "Gerard Meijssen" wrot

Re: [Wikimedia-l] compromise?

Hoi, In my country health care insurance is compulsory. If anything this means that everyone can see a doctor and believe it or not, investment in health care is beneficial to the wealth of a nation. I am appalled that people consider health care something that is best left to the individual. It m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Voice Intro Project"

Hoi, There are several tools that allow you to record pronunciations. I have done many many in the past and, I am not the only on Thanks, GerardM On 8 February 2013 16:06, Sarah Stierch wrote: > Yeah, it'd be cool to have a tool that allows the subject to record and > then make their file

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Voice Intro Project"

8 February 2013 21:34, Florence Devouard wrote: > Gerard, > > Did not we record something sounding like "merry christmas and happy new > year" several years ago ? Was it uploaded ? I could not find it ;) > > Flo > > > On 2/8/13 5:24 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Voice Intro Project"

Hoi, I found something on nl.wiktionary... http://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Vrolijk_Kerstfeest_en_een_Gelukkig_Nieuwjaar! Thanks, Gerard On 9 February 2013 15:16, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Yes, they were uploaded. They are not that easy to find because they are > things like

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New proposal for a wiki Project!

Hoi, The one thing I am really interested in learning is how information about and content in a specific languages will be handled. Information about is likely to be in another language, consequently WHAT language. Content could be in something like Wikisource / Wikibooks. Thanks, Gerard O

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New proposal for a wiki Project!

Hoi, This does not negate the relevance of maintaining information about the languages and the cultures reflected by them. A new project has to be relevant for its own reasons. It has to be relevant to the people who will care for it. Thanks, GerardM On 18 February 2013 23:35, Thomas Dalto

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

Hoi, If there is one thing that would be extremely powerful, it would be combining lexical information with Commons. I presented about this in Alexandria at Wikimania and, it is still true. It makes sense to allow people to search for a paard or a cheval or a حصان

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

Hoi, There is no point at all in maintaining the software currently used by OmegaWiki. That would be foolish. Nobody who knows OmegaWiki will ask for that. What we are asking for is that we ensure that the structures that exist in OmegaWiki are replicated in Wikidata for reasons that are clear and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

Hoi, there is always Google translate ... works quite nicely from within gmail for many languages. Thanks, Gerard On 11 March 2013 21:11, Fae wrote: > On 11 March 2013 19:56, Michael Snow wrote: > > Too bad - I was hoping it was a sign that people were taking seriously > the > > notion

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Wikimedia Iconathon 2013

Hoi, Getting some experience first makes sense.. Going global is something that can be done the next year ?? Thanks, GerardM On 19 March 2013 22:52, Fajro wrote: > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Brandon Harris > wrote: > > The Wikimedia Foundation is partnering with the Noun Pr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Wikimedia Iconathon 2013

: > On Mar 19, 2013 10:13 PM, "Gerard Meijssen" > wrote: > > > > Hoi, > > Getting some experience first makes sense.. Going global is something > that > > can be done the next year ?? > > Surely thi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Wikimedia Iconathon 2013

software. Thanks, Gerard On 20 March 2013 13:56, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: > Le 2013-03-19 23:12, Gerard Meijssen a écrit : > > Hoi, >> Getting some experience first makes sense.. Going global is something that >> can be done the next year ?? >> Thanks, >>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata opinion piece in The Atlantic

Hoi, It is interesting that people consider the potential negative aspects and forgets about the positive. For me the big thing is that translatable info boxes is a perfect method of populating relevant information in stub articles. This is of particular relevance to the smaller Wikipedias, the pr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide

Hoi, you are providing a perfect reason why you might contribute to a WMF based travel wiki... No adds Thanks, Gerard On 11 April 2012 17:16, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > If you're serious about seeing it become the next Wikimedia sister project, >> I'd focus on making a better case for h

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

Hoi, It is not. Thanks, Gerard On 13 April 2012 11:46, Mark Jaroski wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:40, Juergen Fenn > wrote: > > > I beg to differ, and I would like to repeat a point that I had raised > > on Meta yesterday. I think we all agree that travel guides are all > > about POV?

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost issue is out!

Hoi, Quote: "A significant minority of participants" so the majority is not what Sign Post represents.. obviously. Thanks, GerardM On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 at 17:33, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > The Signpost – Volume 18, Issue 11 – 28 November 2022 > -- > > News and notes:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Long Reddit post laying out inner workings of English Wikipedia

Hoi, The best competition to the English Wikipedia? Any other Wikipedia. The Wikimedia Foundation increasingly puts its effort outside the borders of the USA. As a techie I am really pleased with a full fledged data centre in France. Then there is the Abstract Wikipedia, given that facts are findab

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Recent press around December Office Action

Hoi, I know the license... is it wise to use these pictures? What is it that the WMF advises? Thanks, GerardM On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 at 14:38, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Dear all, > > Fjmustak (Farah Jack Mustaklem, a recent candidate for the WMF board) has > uploaded a picture of the two jailed Wik

[Wikimedia-l] A Red&Blue Wikibase for every Wikipedia

Hoi, The two biggest technical changes that had a huge impact on all our projects were first Commons and then Wikidata. Commons centralised pictures in one location and this saved Wikimedia a huge amount in storage costs. Wikidata centralised all the interwiki links in one database and it stopped t

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