Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join “CEE Spring” on Wikipedia to help discover Ukraine to the world

2021-05-09 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
> ways; we'll try to share lessons learned with the international community > once the results are ready. > > Best Regards > Anton Protsiuk > Program Coordinator at Wikimedia Ukraine > > > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:39 PM Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > >> Not to undermine a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join “CEE Spring” on Wikipedia to help discover Ukraine to the world

2021-05-09 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
. > > Vriendelijke groet, > Ciell > > > Op vr 7 mei 2021 om 17:38 schreef Yaroslav Blanter : > >> Not to undermine an importance of creation of new articles, but to note >> that after the reform of the administrative divisions of Ukraine in July >> 2020 dozens, if n

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join “CEE Spring” on Wikipedia to help discover Ukraine to the world

2021-05-07 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Not to undermine an importance of creation of new articles, but to note that after the reform of the administrative divisions of Ukraine in July 2020 dozens, if not hundreds of thousands of articles across many projects now contain wrong information (well, not up-to-date information). In the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New feature from Community Tech: Watchlist Expiry

2020-12-01 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Thanks Ilana, this is great. Yaroslav On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:26 AM Ilana Fried wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm very excited to announce a new feature created by the Community Tech > [1] team: Watchlist Expiry. With this feature, you can optionally select > to watch a page for a temporary

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

2020-09-11 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Natacha, I am not opposed to UCoC but I am afraid you have unrealistic expectations. We do have serious behavioral problems in the big communities. One of them, for example, is that the general tone of discussions is very aggressive and prevents some categories of users, for example, women,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Institutional memory @ WMF

2020-08-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I just want to comment on one particular point made by Pete. On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 8:27 PM Pete Forsyth wrote: > Institutional memory is important BOTH to staff of WMF, AND to the > volunteer community. > > I think both you and I, Michael, have blurred these two issues to some > degree. It

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sexual harassment

2020-08-25 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
In addition, (English Wikipedia) ANI can reasonably well deal with one or several highly problematic diffs, but very often we have a long pattern which can result in a long series of diffs, so that each one is unproblematic or slightly problematic, but all together thay may constitute a harassment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: Briefing postponement

2020-08-05 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Thank you Zack for the update, much appreciated. Best regards Yaroslav On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Heather Walls and I met with much of the Board of Trustees on July 28 to > provide an informational briefing on the strategy, history, and process of >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

2020-07-31 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
It is known and widely recognized that online communities were excluded from the strategy process. There was no way one could open RfC on the process, and no approval of the strategy by the editing communities. This has to be fixed now. It is difficult to fix, because there are already too many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia coediting spaces?

2020-07-29 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Teemu, do you mean a cafe run by the WMF or an affiliate? How is this compatible with the non-profit status? Or is there smth I misunderstand? Best Yaroslav On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:15 PM Leinonen Teemu wrote: > Hi all, > > Have there ever been a serious discussion on the idea of having a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Local partnerships and funding sources towards multilingual Wiki-Smart Humanity

2020-07-06 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Thank you. This actually worries me a lot. If I read it correctly, we will get a kind of Wiki-Resident, but not with a cultural and educational institution but with the local government of one of the most populous and influential subjects of the Russian Federation. I do not think we previously

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board Update on Branding

2020-06-23 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
That one first, and second that it does not even matter. We should appreciate that Nat came up with this statement, which is written in her name, not even as a Board resolution, perfectly knowing that it would not be fully accepted by the active part of the community, and she woull be a target of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An encyclopedia must be conservative (?)

2020-05-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Ziko, there is a long-standing problem of recentism. There are a lot of Wikipedia articles which are only based on new sources (though reliable) and not on serious academic literature. There are some which contain zero encyclopedic information because they basically only retell the news

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Trust and safety on Wikimedia projects

2020-05-26 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
We of course do not have as many problematic uploads as FB does (and to be honest having a personal experience I am not really impressed with the quality of their moderators), but we still get several hundreds of obvious copyright violations per day uploaded to Commons, and several hundreds junk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-18 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
To be fair, in most cases to use Commons for uploading files is totally unproblematic as soon as one has basic understanding of copyright. I am pretty sure 99% of my uploads can not be deleted (I had my files mass-nominated for deletion, once with the claim they are not mine, and once with the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

2020-05-17 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Concerning using Commons as a photo hosting, I have written a blog post earlier this year: https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/wikimedia-commons-as-private-photo-hosting/2866 However, I can not see how it can become anything close to social media, nor do I think it should be. It already has a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

2020-04-24 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
We have this article as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day_Live Best Yaroslav On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:31 PM Michael Peel wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day is not the same as > https://www.earthdaylive2020.org/ - but the link was to the latter. > > Thanks, > Mike >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] คุณมีความสุขกับอะไรในสัปดาห์นี้? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 19 April 2020)

2020-04-23 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I actually also had a train identified this week, by User:Altona with whom I never interacted as far as I know. My train is from Canada, uploaded a week ago. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:West_Coast_Railway_Heritage_Park_08.jpg Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comment Open on U.S. Open Access Policy

2020-04-20 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
As an actively publishing researcher, I just know that mandating open access publishing would mean that the author pays the (huge) publication fee rather than the library pays the subscription. In an ideal world, the universities would refund the fees, and will get subsidy from the governments, In

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-10 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
In all honesty, this should not have been directed at Samir. I do not think he has the authority to stop the process. And whoever has probably spends more time in Twitter that in Wikimedia projects. Best Yaroslav On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:12 AM Tito Dutta wrote: > There is something called

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiProject COVID-19 (English Wikipedia) is started

2020-03-15 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Just to remark that I went today to a supermarket to take a picture of empty shelves and eventually to upload it to Commons. Which I did (and eventually I added one of the photographs to an English Wikipedia article), just to discover that several people had the same idea before me, including one

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-03-13 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
We just had an RfC on Meta which gave 90% opposes. I do not see how any serious rebranding discussions could still be happening after this result has become apparent. For me personally, the question is closed at least for several years. Best Yaroslav On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 8:48 PM Pine W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-10 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work fine https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314=359453254254=%2Bzoom%20online%20%2Bmeeting=b=g=c=EAIaIQobChMIsI2o0JaQ6AIVBc13Ch0VxwqZEAAYASAAEgJs0_D_BwE but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants. Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps on Wikimedia Space

2020-02-19 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 7:31 PM Todd Allen wrote: > > Quit trying to make us TwitFaceTube. The tools we already have work just > fine. > Apparently not if people go there en masse instead of using on-wiki channels. Yaroslav > > Todd > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 10:41 AM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps on Wikimedia Space

2020-02-19 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I provided feedback previously on Space earlier and I could not find it now but I assume it was taken into consideration when the decision was taken. Without repeating it, let me remark that the two main questions, which remained unsolved, were (i) what is the target audience and (ii) what is the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations released, join the conversation

2020-01-21 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
We will be again talking to the wall. (Would be, I am not going to react this time). Best Yaroslav On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:06 AM Todd Allen wrote: > Katherine, > > These are very disappointing. It does not seem like a bit of the feedback > on earlier versions was taken into consideration at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: New roles for working group members, synthesis underway, and more

2019-11-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
The recommendations must be first presented to the movement (and, specifically, to the project communities) for approval, and only them whatever will be approved, can be presented to the Board, The reverse sequence will likely result in outright rejection of recommendations by the editing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brief request for advice about "What's making you happy this week?"

2019-11-25 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I posted once a reply which was reasonably concise and had just one point - and it generated very little response. My conclusion was that people here are mainly not interested in what is going on on the projects contentwise. I will not do it again. Yaroslav On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:16 AM Amir

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ի՞նչն է Ձեզ երջանկացնում այս շաբաթ: / What’s making you happy this week? (Week of 22 September 2019)

2019-10-06 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
sts like these are available. When you care to, I am happy > to help you set this up for Russia and have the info on more Wikipedias. > Thanks, > GerardM > > PS there is a similar project for India > > On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 13:53, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > > > Now,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ի՞նչն է Ձեզ երջանկացնում այս շաբաթ: / What’s making you happy this week? (Week of 22 September 2019)

2019-10-06 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Now, what is making me happy this week is that yesterday I completed the first step of my long-term project at the English Wikipedia. I finished creating articles on all district centers in Russia. Districts are the second level administration divisions in Russia (the first level are federal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Community Tech: New Format for 2020 Wishlist Survey

2019-10-06 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
The wishlist of course accepts wishes in any language, but in order to make it to the accepted zone a wish must have several dozens supporters, which is only realistically possible for English language wishes. (Supports can also be in any language). Cheers Yaroslav On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 10:51

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation joins the global climate strike

2019-09-23 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
This probably goes too far of this thread, but judging from another thread where attendance complain that no C-level WMF executive attended the French language conference, people expect from Wikimania not so much the talks (which I guess by now are available online anyway), but a chance of meeting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation joins the global climate strike

2019-09-20 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
If we are discussing such things, why do not we are discussing whether WMF employees are driving to the work or taking public transportation? Or chapter employees? Or volunteers? Or whether volunteers switch off the light when they leave a room (I actually do)? I really do not think this is a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-07 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Right. I guess a central notice about an RfC would be appropriate. Cheers Yaroslav On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:16 PM Kiril Simeonovski < kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > It seems like there is a clear consensus to open an RfC on Meta about this, > so we can safely move forward

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-06 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I agree with Fae. I strongly oppose the proposal, and I somehow used to assume that our opinion would be asked in a structured way. Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:03 PM Fæ wrote: > If the WMF is going to make statements that are not derived from all > the demonstrable facts, perhaps

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-24 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
; > > multiple > > > > >>>>>> languages. We are soliciting feedback to shape the overall > > > > >> direction > > > > >>> of > > > > >>>>> the > > > > >>>>>> recommendations through mid-September. Working Groups are > > already > > > > >>>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-21 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
And this is the core problem of the whole process (which has been pointed out by multiple people from the very beginning) Cheers Yaroslav On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:27 PM Jeff Hawke wrote: > Andy > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett > wrote: > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-12 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
No, it does not work like this. Large communities are only going to accept decisions which were discussed with them properly, on their project and in the two-way interaction mode. The discussions on Meta in the mode "we will listen to you and then let you know of our decision" are not going to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal forced HTTPS backdoor in Kazakhstan

2019-07-23 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I do not think Kazakhstan has a chapter. In the past, some Kazakh Wikimedians enjoyed close collaboration with the government (for example, the Kazakhstani Encyclopedia has been released under a free license and verbatim copied to the Kazakh Wikipedia, so that I do not expect much. Cheers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-29 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I agree that it is completely counterproductive to discuss issues like who filed the complaint. What is however important to understand, especially for those who are not English Wikipedia insiders, is that the reaction which this event caused in unprecedent. For example, by now 19 active admins

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright issues

2019-06-17 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Actually, I am afraid, for CCI at some point we will have to remove all added text by bot. I do not see any other scalable solution. Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 5:36 PM Stephen Philbrick < stephen.w.philbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have seen a couple comments on copyright issues in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Health, Roles & Responsibilities

2019-06-17 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I went ahead and offered my time to participate in the strategy process. My offer was rejected.. I do not think I will ever do it again. I an afraid WMF is up to some surprises when they publish the 2030 Strategy which was not in any way coordinated with the communities, and then see that the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
simply raising an objection to the claim > that this would've gone over much better had it been the ArbCom and not the > WMF who placed a ban. > > – Molly White (GorillaWarfare) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 5:01 PM Yaroslav

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-12 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Just to summarize the difference between WMF and ArbCom, in view of the majority of the en.wiki community: We elect ArbCom, and if they do not do what they should be doing, they do not get re-elected in two years, which happens on a regular basis We do not elect WMF and in fact we have no means

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-11 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
The point made by pretty much everyone is not that Fram should or should not be banned, but that the process in this case should have followed the standard dispute resolution avenues, More specifically, the case should have been communicated to the Arbitration Committee, whose members did sign the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

2019-05-15 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
: > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:26 AM Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > > > This is of course fine, and everybody is free to participate or not to > participate on this mailing list, but, generally speaking, does WMF have > any channels to listen to the volunteers working on the project?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

2019-05-15 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
This is of course fine, and everybody is free to participate or not to participate on this mailing list, but, generally speaking, does WMF have any channels to listen to the volunteers working on the project? They often say so, but in practice I do not see any. This list used to be the one, but it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

2019-05-15 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Yes, Asaf is absolutely spot on. Though I am afraid it is a small part of a bigger problem. Cheers Yaroslav On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:54 PM Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Asaf thank you very much. This response of yours helps build bridges. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Wed, 15 May 2019

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-12 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the amount of material it has to deal with. Cheers Yaroslav On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta wrote: > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or capable to do > the job, or increasing difficulty

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Ziko, you could then argue that Commons is also not a collaborative project - only one person takes a picture (determines the story, the position, light etc), and others can at best perform some editing or add/remove categories. Cheers Yaroslav On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 11:29 AM Ziko van Dijk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-17 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
:17 PM Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 15:41, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > > > Indeed, I am not a fan of Wikinews and I do not particularly see the > > project as in any way successful. However, if the project is shut down > > against the will of t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

2019-04-17 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Indeed, I am not a fan of Wikinews and I do not particularly see the project as in any way successful. However, if the project is shut down against the will of the community (I now mean the Wikinews community, or perhaps even specifically the English Wikinews community), I will ask myself whether

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-16 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Andrew Lih provided a couple of days ago a link to his excellent analysis of ten years ago, but in short - Wikinews has a very different nature that all other Wikimedia projects. Wikipedia, or say Wikivoyage or Commons are incremental - you can add a paragraph of text or an image, walk away, come

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

2019-04-13 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
To be honest, Wikidata does have serious vandalism issues which have not yet been solved. It is unlikely the English Wikipedia will have a more close integration with Wikidata until they have been solved. For the record, I am administrator on both projects. Cheers Yaroslav On Sat, Apr 13, 2019

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [strategy process] Fwd: I decided to leave the working group

2019-03-28 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hello Itzik, thanks for sharing this. I actually did not want to react, because I presumably sound too critical on this list in the last couple of years. However, 24h passed, and nobody reacted, and It would be unfortunate if we let this go. My own experience brought me to the same conclusions,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Peter, I am also writing about what I am (sometimes mildly) interested in, and I am sure there will be enough materials for me to edit until I die, but you would be surprised to learn how many people have no idea on what they could/should edit, and are happy to take suggestions. Cheers Yaroslav

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [wikicite-discuss] Leaving the Wikimedia Foundation, staying on the wikis

2019-02-13 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Dario, thanks for your effort. It was a pleasure working with you, and I am also happy that you will stay around as a volunteer. My congratulations to Leila. Whereas at this point I am rather skeptical and sometimes vocal about WMF in general, I have a tremendous respect for both of you. Cheers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

2019-01-25 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Whatever the reasoning is, I think we should accept that at the moment paid editing is universally regarded very negatively in virtually all projects. Non-monetary prizes for competitions may or may not be ok, everything else is most likely not considered to be ok even if does not explicitly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] blocking, unblocking, wikivoyage

2019-01-07 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
This person sent this mail today to multiple mailing lists, to some of them twice. Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 6:53 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > > I do not see what community this is being > controlled by; > > 1. there are no notice

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

2019-01-07 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Well, in 2019 people should already have come to the notion that blocking locally an acting steward is not really a good idea. Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:21 AM Vi to wrote: > Because of a truly great idea > < >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

2018-12-30 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Thanks for the reactions so far, they have been very useful. Let me answer some of the points. Re subject line: Obviously it is deliberately provocative to generate more response and reach out to more people. Whereas what I write I do seriously, if it stays a discussion of a dozen of people with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

2018-12-29 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
to find very search engines. (No > wonder that some of the prominent people from our regions are continually > getting dismissed as non-notable, which I see as another form of 'systemic > bias'). > > Give it a thought, please. > > Frederick Noronha > Goa > > On Sun, 30 D

[Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

2018-12-29 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
/ accessible to most of internet users, and will slowly die. And the results of what were were doing for 20 years will disappear. This is a usual development and happens to almost every human activity. We know that only a few percents of pieces of Ancient Greek and Roman literature survived until no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Croatian Wikipedia: persisting far-right bias?

2018-12-06 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Tomasz, whereas you are right in theory, a practical application of this method requires (i) availability and acceptance of all these sources in the community (for example, if one side published in Croatian and another one published in English, Croatian Wikipedia is likely to use only sources

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odp: Re: Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
ip in Wikimedia projects and trust of their local > communities. Did I understand you properly?Best Regards, Michał > Buczyński Wikimedia Polska, FDC, Resource Allocation Working Group Dnia > 27 września 2018 13:21 Yaroslav Blanter ymb...@gmail.com > napisał(a): This is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
This is very remarkable that nobody is actually interested in input from what the WMF functionaries now call "unorganized volunteers" - people who actually work in the projects. We are just not in the picture. Good luck with that. Do not be surprised to see a huge number of volunteers to oppose

[Wikimedia-l] European Copyright Law

2018-09-12 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
If I understand correctly, the European parliament just approved the copyright law essentially without changes, thus supporting the version we protested against in May. What would be the consequences for us? Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sensory overloads

2018-08-15 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Thanks Romaine for sharing. As someone at the same side of the spectrum (I get quickly tired in the places where a lot of people are gathering) I can fully endorse this. Cheers Yaroslav On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:42 PM Romaine Wiki wrote: > Hi everyone, > > In our movement we have a lot of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Celebrating Wikimania 2018 online

2018-07-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
he information). I > believe it would be much quicker, and would fill and correct Wikidata > entries on the way. > > If you are interested in using something like that, please drop me a note. > > ​All the best, > > Paulo​ > > > 2018-07-26 17:25 GMT+01:00 Yaroslav Blan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Celebrating Wikimania 2018 online

2018-07-26 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Gerard, when you come to Mozambique, pls let me know, there are reliable sources down to the third level administrative divisions. For example, the two sources present in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzi_District are available for every district (though I so far only added about half of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-07-25 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
functionaries (time requirement, and first it was also talked of > candidates > > should be endorsed by local chapters). And the actual selection was not > > done transparent as is the culture of the communities but by "boss" > > selection (I only feel the movement is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-07-24 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:16 PM, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > > I don't like to think in drastic terms like these because it fails to > recognize the amount of good will that has been poured into the process and > the selection of participants by the Strategy team. It is perhaps more >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-07-21 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Dear Kaarel, with all respect, it would be great if you could name the issues first before soliciting further feedback. In my particular case, well, I have seen a message on this list which I interpreted as a call for help. I have generally many things which interest me, but I though that if WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of Wikipedia Zero

2018-06-30 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Lucas, this one is from February: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/02/16/partnerships-new-approach/ Cheers Yaroslav On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 7:35 PM, Lucas Teles wrote: > Hello. > > On Portuguese Wikipedia Facebook page, I am receiving lots of messages > asking if Wikipedia Zero is over.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-11 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
it is quite the opposite: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_retention > > Why do you feel that rotations are necessary? And wouldn't be the loss > greater than the gain? > > Cheers, > Micru > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 9:00 PM Yaroslav Blanter wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-10 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
periencing burnout. >> https://wire.ama-assn.org/life-career/report-reveals-severit >> y-burnout-specialty >> >> James >> >> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Yaroslav Blanter >> wrote: >> >> Hi David, >>> >>> Well, I did not re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-10 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi David, Well, I did not reply because I disagree but in my experience having long arguments with people one disagrees with usually does not lead to agreement and is also very tiring. You gave your opinion, I gave mine, it is up to other readers to decide whose arguments are stronger. I really

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-10 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I made this point earlier this month, but let me make it again. Money generated by volunteers should indeed go back to volunteers. It just can not go back as a salary. If it goes back as a salary, you have people working together, some of them being paid for the work, and some doing it for free.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Classification/Categorization games for Commons?

2018-06-06 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I think it is pretty similar to what we have built in Wikidata, Do Structured Commons folks want to comment? Cheers Yaroslav On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > Hi, folks. > > It occurs to me there are tens or hundreds of thousands of images donated > en masse (GLAM etc.) that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-28 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I am actually fully with Gnangarra here. I am also an unpaid volunteer who invested a lot of hours of my free time into various Wikimedia projects (and mostly getting a lot of shit in reward, but this is not the point now). I did have an experience of disagreements with people who were either paid

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Category: French Jews on en.wp / GPDR

2018-05-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi David, >It occurs to me: Has anyone gone through the cat and made sure every >instance is cited to best BLP standards? no, likely not (nobody has gone through the cat). In my experience, categories and lists related to ethnicity, religious views, and sexual orientation are often created

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Category: French Jews on en.wp / GPDR

2018-05-25 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Whereas I absolutely agree with Todd, let me note that in the list many entries are unsourced or poorly sourced and can not be there according to the policies. Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:55 PM, Todd Allen wrote: > We should no more follow French censorship

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fake news

2018-04-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
nterested in cases where it > involves systematic actions involving automated systems or very large (and > rich) networks against which the community would have difficulties to deal > with. > > For example, the issue with BDB and binary options. > > Flo > > > Le

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fake news

2018-04-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Florence, this page might help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia It is of course very different to create a complete hoax on Wikipedia on a topic which is heavily watched. It is much easier to create a hoax on an obscure subject very few people know about,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to recognise a Wikipedian

2018-04-23 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Well, if the person edits Wikipedia during the breakfast in the hotel, should not we conclude with a high degree of certainty that the person is a Wikimedian? Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Romaine Wiki wrote: > Hi all, > > During the past Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-06 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Zubin, not that I know of. Cheers Yaroslav On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Zubin JAIN wrote: > Hello, > As a rare newcomer to the Wikimedia project, I've been thinking of some of > the factors that seem to discourage me from contributing and one of the >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-01 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
One idea which was spelled out many times but never took off is that of a Wiki-compendium. If we are talking about a language which is let us say not endangered, has a reasonably large number of speakers but not millions, and only has a limited number of sources published in this language - the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-02-28 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
At your service https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeniyetmə_(roman) Cheers Yaroslav On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:26 PM, mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > Saluton, > > Can we actually have a link to a page with a concrete example so we can > judge this factually? > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I actually agree with Todd, and I though this is actually a reason why WMF staff may not edit articles (at least not from WMF accounts). I am afraid disadvantages due to the broken symmetry will be bigger than advantages due to actual content translated. Cheers Yaroslav On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimedia vs. NSA

2018-02-07 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I though the United Stated, being the most democratic country of the world, does not recognize decisions of international courts (and, specifically, it withdrew from the International Court of Justice after a decision was taken it did not like, and it never ratified the convention about the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 4 February 2018)

2018-02-04 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I think it is good to let them going for the time being. Cheers Yaroslav On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Fæ wrote: > On 4 February 2018 at 06:13, Pine W wrote: > > P.S. Do people like these "What's making you happy this week" emails? Few > > people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Publicpolicy] Update on FISA 702 reauthorization

2018-01-21 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
What about moving to another country? Still not an option? Cheers Yaroslav On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > 1) still don't see the relevance. If better technology is needed, it's > needed - that should be independent of any lobbying preferences.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
I think the situation is pretty clear, and we have already many statements exactly about this point. The dissenters are being, and will continue being simply ignored. Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Fæ wrote: > Sorry Nicole, what you have written is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030

2017-10-26 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
For the record, at the talk page of the endorsement page, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Direction/Endorsement we have a small number of contributors, including myself, who explain why they refuse to endorse the document. I do not expect us to be heard

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2018: Program themes, eligibility criteria and reporting deadlines

2017-10-23 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
We absolutely do not want language communities to be under the control of local chapters or user groups, for a multitude of reasons, one of the many being that the chapters are organized by country (or even by territory) whereas language communities are organized differently. I think the idea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 28: Strategy update - Final draft of movement direction and endorsement process (#25)

2017-10-20 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hello Lodewijk, no, you are certainly not alone in your concerns. It looks like at this stage there is little we can do, and the only option left is to not endorse the document. Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > Thanks for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women in red

2017-10-16 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
My understanding is they target 10K articles, not 100K. Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:30 AM, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Gnangarra > > I've heard bad things about the articles for creation process, but a > minimum of either 1.5 kb or 2,000 bytes of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women in red

2017-10-16 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
My (rejected) message below anyway. Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why is my message to this thread getting rejected? It says "Message > rejected by filter rule match"? > > Cheers > Yaroslav >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women in red

2017-10-16 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Why is my message to this thread getting rejected? It says "Message rejected by filter rule match"? Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > I guess we are discussing this contest: > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] September 28: Strategy update - Final draft of movement direction and endorsement process (#25)

2017-10-05 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
> project (in theory - in practice I could list several obstacles, possibly > surmountable) > Cheers, > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Yaroslav Blanter > Sent: Wednesday, October 4,

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