[Wikimedia-l] Re: Joint Statement on Palestine

It might be a good idea to freeze this thread out before we start discussing whether political statements are allowed here at all, whether they are desirable, and whether this specific political statement qualifies as support or endorsement of terrorism. I do not see how any of such discussions on

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Urgent attention required because Commons is blocked in Pakistan

My understanding is that only Commons is currently blocked in Pakistan. In July 2023, when I visited, I could (and did) edit Wikipedia and Wikivoyage in several languages, as well as Wikidata. To be honest I did not try Urdu Wikipedia, but I guess if it were blocked in Pakistan we would know

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Urgent attention required because Commons is blocked in Pakistan

Just to clarify, at least in my case, the embedded Commons files were visible on Wikimedia projects (including the English Wikipedia) when I was in Pakistan. I just could not open them on Commons or upload any files. Best Yaroslav On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:13 PM Risker wrote: > VPNs and IP

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Urgent attention required because Commons is blocked in Pakistan

I have been to Pakistan in July and indeed discovered that Wikimedia Commons was blocked. I complained to the WMF (using the Village pump on Commons when I was back), they were apparently not familiar with the situation but investigated it and acknowledged that Commons is indeed blocked in

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

James Heilman >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 10:49 PM >>>> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List >>>> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are >>>> doing it wrong >>>> >>>> Yes we see this sentiment

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Specifically related to video uploads, we had discussions on Commons on different strategic issues recently, in particular, about this. The general sentiment was, to my understanding (pls correct me if I am wrong) that Commons has no ambition to become Youtube 2.0 and we do not have any resources

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sister Projects Committee

This is a proposal which was active about 10 years ago. If I remember correctly, at that time it became clear that nobody was going to delegate any responsibilities to the possible committee, which instantly killed the proposal. Best Yaroslav On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 8:43 AM James Heilman wrote:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing streak? Find out!

some luck is involved. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > *From:* Yaroslav Blanter [mailto:ymb...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 28 July 2023 18:56 > *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List > *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing > streak? Find out! > > &

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing streak? Find out!

Thanks, interesting, I am apparently a human #19 in the list. Best Yaroslav On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 6:43 PM F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Bon dia / Hi, > > Is there any available tool to precisely count how many days in a row a > Wikimedian

[Wikimedia-l] activity around Wikimedia.ru

This story made some headlines in Russian-language media, and I guess it could be of general interest here. Vladimir Medeyko, who has been the president of Wikimedia.ru, the Russian chapter of WMF, since its foundation in the 2000s, announced yesterday that he is starting a Russian Wikipedia fork

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Reflecting on my listening tour

Hi Selena, thanks a lot for sharing, very useful. Best Yaroslav On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 1:54 AM Selena Deckelmann wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I joined the Wikimedia Foundation on August 1 of last year in a newly > created role as the Chief Product and Technology Officer (CPTO). (For the > first

[Wikimedia-l] Re: @Wikipedia losing opportunities in Twitter

Hi Galder, on the other hand.. Basque Wikipedia is one of very few accounts twitting on the Pele death in Basque, whereas a lot was twitted in English. I do not think English Wikipedia twitter can compete with major news outlets, they operate on a completely different scale.The low-hanging fruit

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

Hi, just to remark that it superficially looks like a great tool for small language Wikipedias (for which the translation tool is typically not available). One can train the tool in some less common language using the dictionary and some texts, and then let it fill the project with a thousands of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Dear All, I thought I would just let it go, but I do not think the discussion currently runs in a good direction. I do not think it is useful to advocate that Meta is a good discussion platform. It is not. It is dead. At best, there are some announcements posted there, and there is a small group

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Research Showcase June 15

Hi Peter, from my (admittedly from more than ten years ago) experience with the Russian Wikipedia, articles are often translated from other language Wikipedias, with references just taken over and not being independently checked (perhaps it is checked that an online reference is still available,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

I was personally hit by an open proxy when I was on holidays last year (South Tirol, Italy, for the record). I could edit the four projects where I am administrator, but I could not edit five other projects where I update the image of the day. (In fact, I could not edit Meta either except for my

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sanctions against the Russian Federation; support for Ukrainian Wikimedians

Males between 18 and 60 may not leave the country (and probably do not want to do it anyway), so that there could be only women, old people, and children among the refugees. Given the gender gap situation, probably there are not so many Wikipedians among them, but I hope if there are some, they

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikimedia Announcements] Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month: We are back in 2022!

Absolutely. I am not a fan of government propaganda, but not it is not the best moment to discuss it. Best Yaroslav On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:23 AM effe iets anders wrote: > The list archive probably has an answer to your question on 9 feb 2021. > > But regardless, writing about Ukrainian

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia payroll and related (WAS: Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy)

Am I the only one who thinks that discussing salaries (even if publicly disclosed) of named persons on this mailing list is highly inappropriate? (I have no relation to WMF or any of these persons, for the record). Best Yaroslav On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 1:45 PM Andreas Kolbe wrote: >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Re: Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

In the past, we were often told that a specific proposal even if it gains enough support will not be implemented because this is too difficult / not enough resources / whatever. My understanding is that it does not make sense to suggest such proposals again. On the contrary, if the proposal gained

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

Actually, I see an issue with snippets. Wikipedia articles have very variable quality. Some are reasonably good and contain reliable information which is confirmed by reliable sources listed in the article. But a lot have information which is promotional, POV, unconfirmed, or outright false. In

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Commons-l] Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 11:09 PM F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Not to mention what's going on with the sister projects: for Wikiquote or > Wikibooks it has been crystal clear for the small communities that we are > merely server-supported,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

Actually, many projects maintain the list of deceased users. English Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deceased_contributors Meta is up the thread. We should also realize that a significant part of our

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members

People with multiple expertise and background would have been the way to go, but unless we have decided for the fully appointed body (which was opposed by pretty much everybody) it is unclear how this could be realized. Best Yaroslav On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:24 PM Mike Peel wrote: > Hi all, >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members

Dear Bodhisattwa, this is an issue which has been raised at the strategy transition group I was part of, and also during the events following these discussions which were intended to shape the specific process to draft the Charter. Basically, the choice was between two options - either have a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

> > Best > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193352#5984544 > [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18491 > [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248418 > [4] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275268 > [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T28741 > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 1:08 PM

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

Yes, absolutely. In a few years, there will be tools for editing video. If by that time we are not ready to incorporate video at full scale to Wikimedia projects, we will be where AOL is now. Best Yaroslav On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 9:34 AM Christophe Henner < christophe.hen...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Maggie and William, thanks a lot for the answers. Best Yaroslav On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 6:45 PM Nathan wrote: > Maggie, > > Thank you for taking these very difficult actions to protect both the > members of our community as well as the values that it seeks to uphold. I > also appreciate the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hi Maggie, thanks for sharing. I think this is indeed very important. Just to understand this better - have all administrators on all projects who reside in the Mainland China been desysopped? If this is the case, is there a policy that no user residing in the Mainland China can become

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

I believe this is for the first time I see a person who is active in the Wikimedia movement and does not know who Mike Godwin is. Best Yaroslav On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 7:09 PM wrote: > >Mike is not an employee nor a spokesperson for the > Wikimedia Foundation. > > Oh, thanks. > > I don't know

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Blocking users for Palestinian flag

I do not know. Whoever puts a userbox "I support slavery" on their user page on the English Wikipedia invites a fast block does not matter what their edits in the articles are. I do not think there is a universal answer to this question. Yaroslav On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:31 PM Satdeep Gill

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join “CEE Spring” on Wikipedia to help discover Ukraine to the world

> ways; we'll try to share lessons learned with the international community > once the results are ready. > > Best Regards > Anton Protsiuk > Program Coordinator at Wikimedia Ukraine > > > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:39 PM Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > >> Not to undermine a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join “CEE Spring” on Wikipedia to help discover Ukraine to the world

. > > Vriendelijke groet, > Ciell > > > Op vr 7 mei 2021 om 17:38 schreef Yaroslav Blanter : > >> Not to undermine an importance of creation of new articles, but to note >> that after the reform of the administrative divisions of Ukraine in July >> 2020 dozens, if n

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Join “CEE Spring” on Wikipedia to help discover Ukraine to the world

Not to undermine an importance of creation of new articles, but to note that after the reform of the administrative divisions of Ukraine in July 2020 dozens, if not hundreds of thousands of articles across many projects now contain wrong information (well, not up-to-date information). In the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New feature from Community Tech: Watchlist Expiry

Thanks Ilana, this is great. Yaroslav On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:26 AM Ilana Fried wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm very excited to announce a new feature created by the Community Tech > [1] team: Watchlist Expiry. With this feature, you can optionally select > to watch a page for a temporary

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Universal Code of Conduct draft for review

Hi Natacha, I am not opposed to UCoC but I am afraid you have unrealistic expectations. We do have serious behavioral problems in the big communities. One of them, for example, is that the general tone of discussions is very aggressive and prevents some categories of users, for example, women,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Institutional memory @ WMF

I just want to comment on one particular point made by Pete. On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 8:27 PM Pete Forsyth wrote: > Institutional memory is important BOTH to staff of WMF, AND to the > volunteer community. > > I think both you and I, Michael, have blurred these two issues to some > degree. It

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sexual harassment

In addition, (English Wikipedia) ANI can reasonably well deal with one or several highly problematic diffs, but very often we have a long pattern which can result in a long series of diffs, so that each one is unproblematic or slightly problematic, but all together thay may constitute a harassment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: Briefing postponement

Thank you Zack for the update, much appreciated. Best regards Yaroslav On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Heather Walls and I met with much of the Board of Trustees on July 28 to > provide an informational briefing on the strategy, history, and process of >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation

It is known and widely recognized that online communities were excluded from the strategy process. There was no way one could open RfC on the process, and no approval of the strategy by the editing communities. This has to be fixed now. It is difficult to fix, because there are already too many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia coediting spaces?

Hi Teemu, do you mean a cafe run by the WMF or an affiliate? How is this compatible with the non-profit status? Or is there smth I misunderstand? Best Yaroslav On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:15 PM Leinonen Teemu wrote: > Hi all, > > Have there ever been a serious discussion on the idea of having a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Local partnerships and funding sources towards multilingual Wiki-Smart Humanity

Thank you. This actually worries me a lot. If I read it correctly, we will get a kind of Wiki-Resident, but not with a cultural and educational institution but with the local government of one of the most populous and influential subjects of the Russian Federation. I do not think we previously

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board Update on Branding

That one first, and second that it does not even matter. We should appreciate that Nat came up with this statement, which is written in her name, not even as a Board resolution, perfectly knowing that it would not be fully accepted by the active part of the community, and she woull be a target of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An encyclopedia must be conservative (?)

Hi Ziko, there is a long-standing problem of recentism. There are a lot of Wikipedia articles which are only based on new sources (though reliable) and not on serious academic literature. There are some which contain zero encyclopedic information because they basically only retell the news

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Trust and safety on Wikimedia projects

We of course do not have as many problematic uploads as FB does (and to be honest having a personal experience I am not really impressed with the quality of their moderators), but we still get several hundreds of obvious copyright violations per day uploaded to Commons, and several hundreds junk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

To be fair, in most cases to use Commons for uploading files is totally unproblematic as soon as one has basic understanding of copyright. I am pretty sure 99% of my uploads can not be deleted (I had my files mass-nominated for deletion, once with the claim they are not mine, and once with the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

Concerning using Commons as a photo hosting, I have written a blog post earlier this year: https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/wikimedia-commons-as-private-photo-hosting/2866 However, I can not see how it can become anything close to social media, nor do I think it should be. It already has a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

We have this article as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day_Live Best Yaroslav On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:31 PM Michael Peel wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day is not the same as > https://www.earthdaylive2020.org/ - but the link was to the latter. > > Thanks, > Mike >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] คุณมีความสุขกับอะไรในสัปดาห์นี้? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 19 April 2020)

I actually also had a train identified this week, by User:Altona with whom I never interacted as far as I know. My train is from Canada, uploaded a week ago. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:West_Coast_Railway_Heritage_Park_08.jpg Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comment Open on U.S. Open Access Policy

As an actively publishing researcher, I just know that mandating open access publishing would mean that the author pays the (huge) publication fee rather than the library pays the subscription. In an ideal world, the universities would refund the fees, and will get subsidy from the governments, In

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

In all honesty, this should not have been directed at Samir. I do not think he has the authority to stop the process. And whoever has probably spends more time in Twitter that in Wikimedia projects. Best Yaroslav On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:12 AM Tito Dutta wrote: > There is something called

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiProject COVID-19 (English Wikipedia) is started

Just to remark that I went today to a supermarket to take a picture of empty shelves and eventually to upload it to Commons. Which I did (and eventually I added one of the photographs to an English Wikipedia article), just to discover that several people had the same idea before me, including one

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

We just had an RfC on Meta which gave 90% opposes. I do not see how any serious rebranding discussions could still be happening after this result has become apparent. For me personally, the question is closed at least for several years. Best Yaroslav On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 8:48 PM Pine W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work fine https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314=359453254254=%2Bzoom%20online%20%2Bmeeting=b=g=c=EAIaIQobChMIsI2o0JaQ6AIVBc13Ch0VxwqZEAAYASAAEgJs0_D_BwE but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants. Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps on Wikimedia Space

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 7:31 PM Todd Allen wrote: > > Quit trying to make us TwitFaceTube. The tools we already have work just > fine. > Apparently not if people go there en masse instead of using on-wiki channels. Yaroslav > > Todd > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 10:41 AM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps on Wikimedia Space

I provided feedback previously on Space earlier and I could not find it now but I assume it was taken into consideration when the decision was taken. Without repeating it, let me remark that the two main questions, which remained unsolved, were (i) what is the target audience and (ii) what is the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations released, join the conversation

We will be again talking to the wall. (Would be, I am not going to react this time). Best Yaroslav On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:06 AM Todd Allen wrote: > Katherine, > > These are very disappointing. It does not seem like a bit of the feedback > on earlier versions was taken into consideration at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brief request for advice about "What's making you happy this week?"

I posted once a reply which was reasonably concise and had just one point - and it generated very little response. My conclusion was that people here are mainly not interested in what is going on on the projects contentwise. I will not do it again. Yaroslav On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:16 AM Amir

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ի՞նչն է Ձեզ երջանկացնում այս շաբաթ: / What’s making you happy this week? (Week of 22 September 2019)

sts like these are available. When you care to, I am happy > to help you set this up for Russia and have the info on more Wikipedias. > Thanks, > GerardM > > PS there is a similar project for India > > On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 13:53, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > > > Now,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ի՞նչն է Ձեզ երջանկացնում այս շաբաթ: / What’s making you happy this week? (Week of 22 September 2019)

Now, what is making me happy this week is that yesterday I completed the first step of my long-term project at the English Wikipedia. I finished creating articles on all district centers in Russia. Districts are the second level administration divisions in Russia (the first level are federal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Community Tech: New Format for 2020 Wishlist Survey

The wishlist of course accepts wishes in any language, but in order to make it to the accepted zone a wish must have several dozens supporters, which is only realistically possible for English language wishes. (Supports can also be in any language). Cheers Yaroslav On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 10:51

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation joins the global climate strike

This probably goes too far of this thread, but judging from another thread where attendance complain that no C-level WMF executive attended the French language conference, people expect from Wikimania not so much the talks (which I guess by now are available online anyway), but a chance of meeting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation joins the global climate strike

If we are discussing such things, why do not we are discussing whether WMF employees are driving to the work or taking public transportation? Or chapter employees? Or volunteers? Or whether volunteers switch off the light when they leave a room (I actually do)? I really do not think this is a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

Right. I guess a central notice about an RfC would be appropriate. Cheers Yaroslav On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:16 PM Kiril Simeonovski < kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > It seems like there is a clear consensus to open an RfC on Meta about this, > so we can safely move forward

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

I agree with Fae. I strongly oppose the proposal, and I somehow used to assume that our opinion would be asked in a structured way. Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:03 PM Fæ wrote: > If the WMF is going to make statements that are not derived from all > the demonstrable facts, perhaps

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

; > > multiple > > > > >>>>>> languages. We are soliciting feedback to shape the overall > > > > >> direction > > > > >>> of > > > > >>>>> the > > > > >>>>>> recommendations through mid-September. Working Groups are > > already > > > > >>>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

And this is the core problem of the whole process (which has been pointed out by multiple people from the very beginning) Cheers Yaroslav On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:27 PM Jeff Hawke wrote: > Andy > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett > wrote: > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

No, it does not work like this. Large communities are only going to accept decisions which were discussed with them properly, on their project and in the two-way interaction mode. The discussions on Meta in the mode "we will listen to you and then let you know of our decision" are not going to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal forced HTTPS backdoor in Kazakhstan

I do not think Kazakhstan has a chapter. In the past, some Kazakh Wikimedians enjoyed close collaboration with the government (for example, the Kazakhstani Encyclopedia has been released under a free license and verbatim copied to the Kazakh Wikipedia, so that I do not expect much. Cheers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

I agree that it is completely counterproductive to discuss issues like who filed the complaint. What is however important to understand, especially for those who are not English Wikipedia insiders, is that the reaction which this event caused in unprecedent. For example, by now 19 active admins

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright issues

Actually, I am afraid, for CCI at some point we will have to remove all added text by bot. I do not see any other scalable solution. Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 5:36 PM Stephen Philbrick < stephen.w.philbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have seen a couple comments on copyright issues in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Health, Roles & Responsibilities

I went ahead and offered my time to participate in the strategy process. My offer was rejected.. I do not think I will ever do it again. I an afraid WMF is up to some surprises when they publish the 2030 Strategy which was not in any way coordinated with the communities, and then see that the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

simply raising an objection to the claim > that this would've gone over much better had it been the ArbCom and not the > WMF who placed a ban. > > – Molly White (GorillaWarfare) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 5:01 PM Yaroslav

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

Just to summarize the difference between WMF and ArbCom, in view of the majority of the en.wiki community: We elect ArbCom, and if they do not do what they should be doing, they do not get re-elected in two years, which happens on a regular basis We do not elect WMF and in fact we have no means

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

The point made by pretty much everyone is not that Fram should or should not be banned, but that the process in this case should have followed the standard dispute resolution avenues, More specifically, the case should have been communicated to the Arbitration Committee, whose members did sign the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

: > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:26 AM Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > > > This is of course fine, and everybody is free to participate or not to > participate on this mailing list, but, generally speaking, does WMF have > any channels to listen to the volunteers working on the project?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

This is of course fine, and everybody is free to participate or not to participate on this mailing list, but, generally speaking, does WMF have any channels to listen to the volunteers working on the project? They often say so, but in practice I do not see any. This list used to be the one, but it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Be the change you want to see (was: WMF commitment for a Wikimedia projects archive)

Yes, Asaf is absolutely spot on. Though I am afraid it is a small part of a bigger problem. Cheers Yaroslav On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:54 PM Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Asaf thank you very much. This response of yours helps build bridges. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Wed, 15 May 2019

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the amount of material it has to deal with. Cheers Yaroslav On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta wrote: > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or capable to do > the job, or increasing difficulty

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

Hi Ziko, you could then argue that Commons is also not a collaborative project - only one person takes a picture (determines the story, the position, light etc), and others can at best perform some editing or add/remove categories. Cheers Yaroslav On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 11:29 AM Ziko van Dijk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

:17 PM Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 15:41, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > > > Indeed, I am not a fan of Wikinews and I do not particularly see the > > project as in any way successful. However, if the project is shut down > > against the will of t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

Indeed, I am not a fan of Wikinews and I do not particularly see the project as in any way successful. However, if the project is shut down against the will of the community (I now mean the Wikinews community, or perhaps even specifically the English Wikinews community), I will ask myself whether

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

Andrew Lih provided a couple of days ago a link to his excellent analysis of ten years ago, but in short - Wikinews has a very different nature that all other Wikimedia projects. Wikipedia, or say Wikivoyage or Commons are incremental - you can add a paragraph of text or an image, walk away, come

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals

To be honest, Wikidata does have serious vandalism issues which have not yet been solved. It is unlikely the English Wikipedia will have a more close integration with Wikidata until they have been solved. For the record, I am administrator on both projects. Cheers Yaroslav On Sat, Apr 13, 2019

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [strategy process] Fwd: I decided to leave the working group

Hello Itzik, thanks for sharing this. I actually did not want to react, because I presumably sound too critical on this list in the last couple of years. However, 24h passed, and nobody reacted, and It would be unfortunate if we let this go. My own experience brought me to the same conclusions,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

Peter, I am also writing about what I am (sometimes mildly) interested in, and I am sure there will be enough materials for me to edit until I die, but you would be surprised to learn how many people have no idea on what they could/should edit, and are happy to take suggestions. Cheers Yaroslav

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [wikicite-discuss] Leaving the Wikimedia Foundation, staying on the wikis

Dario, thanks for your effort. It was a pleasure working with you, and I am also happy that you will stay around as a volunteer. My congratulations to Leila. Whereas at this point I am rather skeptical and sometimes vocal about WMF in general, I have a tremendous respect for both of you. Cheers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

Whatever the reasoning is, I think we should accept that at the moment paid editing is universally regarded very negatively in virtually all projects. Non-monetary prizes for competitions may or may not be ok, everything else is most likely not considered to be ok even if does not explicitly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] blocking, unblocking, wikivoyage

This person sent this mail today to multiple mailing lists, to some of them twice. Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 6:53 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > > I do not see what community this is being > controlled by; > > 1. there are no notice

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities

Well, in 2019 people should already have come to the notion that blocking locally an acting steward is not really a good idea. Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:21 AM Vi to wrote: > Because of a truly great idea > < >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

Thanks for the reactions so far, they have been very useful. Let me answer some of the points. Re subject line: Obviously it is deliberately provocative to generate more response and reach out to more people. Whereas what I write I do seriously, if it stays a discussion of a dozen of people with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

to find very search engines. (No > wonder that some of the prominent people from our regions are continually > getting dismissed as non-notable, which I see as another form of 'systemic > bias'). > > Give it a thought, please. > > Frederick Noronha > Goa > > On Sun, 30 D

[Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

/ accessible to most of internet users, and will slowly die. And the results of what were were doing for 20 years will disappear. This is a usual development and happens to almost every human activity. We know that only a few percents of pieces of Ancient Greek and Roman literature survived until no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Croatian Wikipedia: persisting far-right bias?

Hi Tomasz, whereas you are right in theory, a practical application of this method requires (i) availability and acceptance of all these sources in the community (for example, if one side published in Croatian and another one published in English, Croatian Wikipedia is likely to use only sources

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odp: Re: Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

ip in Wikimedia projects and trust of their local > communities. Did I understand you properly?Best Regards, Michał > Buczyński Wikimedia Polska, FDC, Resource Allocation Working Group Dnia > 27 września 2018 13:21 Yaroslav Blanter ymb...@gmail.com > napisał(a): This is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

This is very remarkable that nobody is actually interested in input from what the WMF functionaries now call "unorganized volunteers" - people who actually work in the projects. We are just not in the picture. Good luck with that. Do not be surprised to see a huge number of volunteers to oppose

[Wikimedia-l] European Copyright Law

If I understand correctly, the European parliament just approved the copyright law essentially without changes, thus supporting the version we protested against in May. What would be the consequences for us? Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sensory overloads

Thanks Romaine for sharing. As someone at the same side of the spectrum (I get quickly tired in the places where a lot of people are gathering) I can fully endorse this. Cheers Yaroslav On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:42 PM Romaine Wiki wrote: > Hi everyone, > > In our movement we have a lot of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Celebrating Wikimania 2018 online

he information). I > believe it would be much quicker, and would fill and correct Wikidata > entries on the way. > > If you are interested in using something like that, please drop me a note. > > ​All the best, > > Paulo​ > > > 2018-07-26 17:25 GMT+01:00 Yaroslav Blan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Celebrating Wikimania 2018 online

Hi Gerard, when you come to Mozambique, pls let me know, there are reliable sources down to the third level administrative divisions. For example, the two sources present in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzi_District are available for every district (though I so far only added about half of

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