[Wikimediaindia-l] WPMBL8 / Translations

2009-12-22 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

Wiki meetup Bangalore / WPMBL8 went on well last sunday with good number of
people attending it and also had some very good sessions. We also had good
media coverage  this time.[1][2]. If some of us were impressed by what
google guys have shown us on translate[3], here is more news about something
which is being worked by one premier institution in the country[4]. Lets
hope translation becomes easier with more machine help :)

[1] Times of India / Bangalore Mirror --
http://mobilepaper.timesofindia.com/web/mobile.aspx?article=yespageid=4edlabel=BGMIRmydateHid=21-12-2009pubname=Mirror+-+Bangaloreedname=Bangalorearticleid=Ar00402format=publabel=MM
[2] The Hindu - Bangalore Edition
http://www.hindu.com/2009/12/22/stories/2009122250740200.htm
[3] http://translate.google.com/toolkit
[4]
http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2010/1/55756-automated-translation-of-indian-languages/fulltext

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter

2010-03-11 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Shahid Akhtar 
mohd.shahid_akh...@rediffmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 K. Then who is Kiruba Shankar?  What was the election process  criteria?
 How many people involved in that? Why all these process were hidden? Why
 even Hindi not informed?


 This is what I'm wondering about too! I think this process should be more
 inclusive and transparent!

 I'm all for a Wikimedia India chapter, but it should be a group of all the
 people who are actually part of the Wikipedia community! It should not be a
 bunch of politicians that want to be face of Wikipedia to the Indian media
 without having made any substantial contributions to Wikipedia.

 Wikimedia India will receive thousands of rupees in donations. We need
 trusted people who are representative of the pan-India Wikipedia community
 to handle it.

 If this is a group of people who are meeting in Bangalore for wining and
 dining, this should be named Wikimedia Bangalore chapter, not Wikipedia
 INDIA chapter!


*My Few paisas.*

As to my understanding after reading the MoA, there are no special
privileges to founding members apart from not requiring to apply for
membership.[Authors can clarify if my understanding is not right] I suppose
there would be an election after the formation and only the elected persons
will have additional privileges than a normal member. So in that sense, who
starts it really doesn't matter.

I dont know why people are cribbing its secret / closed group when meta was
up all the while. Did anyone make a point to edit any of the meta pages and
was it left undiscussed / discarded? No one stopped anyone from doing that.

Trust is not measured in terms of edit count.Showing up on the day and
commitment in real world is also required and I guess the people who signed
the MoA did that. I agree with pan-India comment but again elections would
happen I guess and as i already mentioned founding members dont get any
extra privileges. Probably some clause can be added to include regional /
linugual EC members.I would add that right away to discussion page.

Sorry i take the wine and dine comment too seriously.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:MBL
is not about wine and dine. Please go through the pages to see what was
going on the meetings.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Integration with OpenStreetMap

2010-03-30 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hoi,
 I would love to know more. How do GaneshK and Tinucherian create their
 articles, do they use maps, do they have maps with all the Indian places on
 them.. do they have maps with all of them on it.. do they have maps with the
 names in many countries.. including English.. Do they have maps with
 articles and or pictures on them.

 How does this process of translation work for the other Indian languages?
 Is there a plan to translate to English as well ??
 Thanks,
 GerardM--


Hi,

Few related points below.

1. As mentioned above by RSrikanth / Sundar, articles for cities / towns
were created by GaneshBot based on census data. Most of them are geocoded i
guess. Recently http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kumar_Appaiah_Bot was
created to fix coord-missing-articles. Someone can take it up and run
regularly to make coord missing articles count to 0. This is very essential
and acts as a input to Google maps-Wikipedia layer

2. AFAIK very few Indian articles have a map in the article (Ex:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Salai  Urdu version of
Tirumalahttp://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AA%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%BE%D8%AA%DB%8C[I
uploaded into English, but then someone seems to have removed from
English, but looks like a bot translated before that].).This is where
OSM-Wikipedia integration could come very handy.City / Town / even Locality
articles can have an free map from OSM.I have seen this being case with
quite a few articles related to UK.

3. Wikipedia-OSM has a huge scope with WikiProject Indian
Roadshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:INR. I was trying to get some
OSM tiles generated and add to articles for it
sometime back but dropped it due to lack of time and also thought it would
be a redundant effort if the OSM-Wikipedia integration comes through.

4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coimbatore_Golf_Club has an image of the
golf course map from openstreetmap. Great usage of free maps beyond
navigation which can only be possible with OSM !

5. While any little progress helps us, India still has a huge way to go when
it comes to OpenGeoData. Awareness of Openstreetmap has to increase and we
need atleast some decent data available for India(which is sadly available
only for few sq.kms(?) ) before we can actually use OSM data into Indian
articles.

6. For folks interested OSM-India community put up this India specific OSM
rendering at http://openstreetmap.org.in -- Where else in the world we can
metered / unmetered / prepaid autos :P

Gerard,
I am not clear on what you are referring as a translation work in the
context of OSM-Wikipedia. Are you referring to the need of the localized
maps OR need of maps of OSM to be on Indic wikis OR localization of OSM
tools like Potalach / JOSM. Thanks.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

2010-08-08 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi,

I have created a shared document from where hooks will be read by the
script. Currently it has 574 hooks, i would relook the scrapper script and
would keep adding more to the hook preparation area. The spreadsheet is open
to edit and please feel free to help.

GDocs Link :- http://j.mp/a4ayc3
Repository  :- http://github.com/srikanthlogic/WikipediaDYKTweeter

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Srik, I thought it was 140? Or are you deducting 20 for the link?

Yes 20 chars is for link. As you see above j.mp (bit.ly's brother) takes 18
chars and add 2 spaces.

On 7 August 2010 18:53, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Excellent idea, Srikanth! Some twitter handles I could think: IndiaFacts,
 KnowIndia, DYKIndia.

Thanks for the suggestions.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please help test geolocation

2010-08-11 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Ravi,
 Good idea. It identifies Bangalore and Karnataka correctly. Can you click
 on the link and verify whether it shows Kovai correctly?

 Sundar from mobile


While all works well with fixed line broadband connections. IPs from mobile
just provide the country. I have tried 3 providers' GPRS and all of them
only give country level info.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimeetup Aug 2010 WPMBL16

2010-08-12 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Have it elsewhere ? Probably an openspace without a projector ? Domlur park
/ Lalbagh / CIS lawn? or like the UK meetups go to coffee shops where WiFi
is there. Unless there are any presentations i dont think we require a hall
setup which CIS provides. Lets not move the date as it will be too early to
meet up for the next meet.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:26 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:

 Folks,
  CIS has informed me that they have anathor event ( their board
 meetings) on the same day of our meetup ( Aug 15) .
 So what do we do ? Postpone for next weekend?

 Thoughts  urgent replies requested.


 Regards
 Tinu Cherian

 N.B. I may be out of station, next weekend.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

2010-08-16 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

We launched this one in #WPMBL17. The twitter account is @DYKIndia. Thanks
Sundar for the handle suggestion, this seems short and crisp :)

Twitter :- http://twitter.com/DYKIndia
GDocs Tweet Queue :- http://j.mp/a4ayc3
Repository  :- http://github.com/srikanthlogic/WikipediaDYKTweeter

Both of the code and tweet queue are open, and please feel free to
contribute to them.

We had discussions on topics surrounding this at the meetup and I will
summarize them below.

1. This can be on any subject and can be used by many projects like History,
Medicine, Countries, etc if there are people to manage the tweet queue.
2. It would make more successful if the manual tweet queue maintenance
process is done away with and ask WP:DYK to provide short version of hooks
as well going forward. -- Need to go through a proposal i guess. Will be
working on this in sometime after gauging the success of this. But counter
arguments also came for this and sometimes its better if its manual.
3. Similar app can also used to tweet daily DYKs on a hourly basis and can
be face of Whats new on Wikipedia in social media.
4. Possibility of exploring usage of this into Indian languages,challanges
like char limit, availability. Need to work on this as well.
5. Possibility of tie-up with mobile operator and making it as a VAS, where
in operator gets money, we get outreach / publicity -- Can be taken as a
chapter outreach activity once that is formed.

Special thanks to twitter mass hero Tinucherian, we already have 88(and
counting) followers and from stats i could see 20 have visited the
article(best thing about bitly). We need to observe how the stats go, whats
the best time to tweet etc.

Code has some TODOs yet to make it more generic and comprehensive which i
would be working on over next weekend.Python folks feel free to review since
its my first python code.

Thanks for your support and expecting few RTs from you ;)

Regards,
Srikanth L

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I have created a shared document from where hooks will be read by the
 script. Currently it has 574 hooks, i would relook the scrapper script and
 would keep adding more to the hook preparation area. The spreadsheet is open
 to edit and please feel free to help.

 GDocs Link :- http://j.mp/a4ayc3
 Repository  :- http://github.com/srikanthlogic/WikipediaDYKTweeter

 On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
 rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Srik, I thought it was 140? Or are you deducting 20 for the link?

 Yes 20 chars is for link. As you see above j.mp (bit.ly's brother) takes
 18 chars and add 2 spaces.

 On 7 August 2010 18:53, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Excellent idea, Srikanth! Some twitter handles I could think: IndiaFacts,
 KnowIndia, DYKIndia.

 Thanks for the suggestions.

 Regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

2010-08-21 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:16 AM, guru brahma wiki...@yahoo.co.in wrote:

 Dear Srikanth,

 good to see this initiative. I used to be among the most active Indian
 contributors to DYK in 2005-06.


Hi Srinivas,

This is possible only because of efforts of DYK contributors like you. I
know how tough it is since i struggled to add one DYK last year. On a
related note, number of Indian DYKs created are coming down these days and
we need more awareness among contributors to increase this count.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] Open IRC meeting with Wikimedia Trustees: Saturday, 1600 UTC

2010-09-14 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Chat log can be found here
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2010-08-31
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2010-08-31
There were points touching about WMF India office / chapter etc which i
think Barry would also be talking to us on the meetups.

Regards,
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On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 02:27, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:

 FYI.

 Yours sincerely,

 Anirudh Singh Bhati
 B.Com, LL.B. (Hons.), Gujarat National Law University,
 Gandhinagar, India.

 Handphone: +919328712208
 Skype: anirudhsbh

 If this email were legal advice, it would be followed by a bill.


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Samuel J Klein s...@wikimedia.org
 Date: Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:59 AM
 Subject: [WikiEN-l] Open IRC meeting with Wikimedia Trustees: Saturday,
 1600 UTC
 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org,
 English Wikipedia wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org


 Hello,

 In an annual effort to welcome new Board members with an informal
 chat, the newest Wikimedia Trustees (Phoebe and Bishakha) are taking
 part in an open meeting on IRC this Saturday.  This is a forum to
 discuss Wikimedia issues and anything else that's on your mind.

 Where : #wikimedia   on   irc.freenode.net
 When  :  Saturday September 11, 1600-1700 UTC
(That's 0900 PST / 1200 EST / 1800 CEST / 2130 IST)

 All are welcome - please join the meeting with ideas or questions
 about Wikimedia and the Projects, or simply with good cheer!  If you
 have a topic to add to the agenda, please add it on Meta:

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_meetings#September_2010

 We will keep the meeting to an hour, and will cover the agenda before
 moving to an open discussion.  Summary minutes will be published.

 I hope to see many of you there,
 Sam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gyanpad (Knowledge kiosk) web app: Easy interface to search Wikipedia and sister sites in Indian languages

2010-09-17 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 07:35, arjuna rao chavala arjunar...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 I am happy to share  a tiny web application to help people get started with
 using Indian languages on Computers in public places, using wiki sites.

 Check it out
 http://gyanpad.appspot.com/

 Cheers
 Arjun


Hi Arjuna,

Great stuff. One more suggestion i could think of is to support google
transliteration in addition to phonetic input. Just to qoute an example in
the difference, phonetic gives டமில் for tamil where the same in google
transliterate gives the correct word தமிழ். Google i think has a memory on
its transliteration labs as well. Pardon my ignorance of not knowing any
other indic language other than tamil.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] CWG Cost : Govt cites Wikipedia as source

2010-09-24 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

Came across this link

Ministry of Tourism, Govt of India cites Wikipedia as the source for CWG
cost.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/97131/govt-draws-blank-cwg-cost.html .
We probably need more focus on articles related to govt projects with a
closer eye. Probably a work group would help.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] community, chapter and foundation: who is who and who does what

2010-10-06 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Achal,

Thanks a lot for the detailed clarification. I was wondering how I could
clearly differentiate these things and explain to people outside our
list/community. I felt the media coverage (some / most) recently after
Barry's meet up also did not convey the differences between the  Chapter and
Foundation office properly. I also felt one other point which Barry told us
about motive of foundation office that did not reach well to the media /
general public well. Barry mentioned to us the common misconception of press
when some global org is setting up office, it brings jobs,money etc which
he had come across during the meetups.Sadly the misconception seems to have
been carried forward. Random sample (unscientific) of what reached out:-
http://www.quoteurl.com/kmh92 . I think we gave out too much to the press to
digest at the same time. Information about chapter, office, wikicapital
etc. Only few articles I read clearly expressed them as different things and
drew the line.

My 2 paisa

Regards,
Srikanth L

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 20:35, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:

 To add to the recent discussion on this list, perhaps a few
 clarifications are in order.

 All of you are familiar with yourselves - i.e. us - the community;
 people who edit, organise and otherwise help Wikimedia projects move
 ahead in interesting and productive ways. Many of those interesting and
 productive things happening here are captured in this first edition of
 the Wikimedia India Community Newsletter:

 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_India_Community_Newsletter_2010_September.pdf

 Then there is the chapter. Chapters are independent organizations
 founded to support and promote the Wikimedia projects within a specified
 country. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters). Chapters
 are approved by the Chapters Committee, constituted by folks whose
 mission is to further Wikimedia, and while affiliated to and recognised
 by the Wikimedia Foundation, are yet independent entities which plot
 their own course. Chapter efforts in India started up as early as 2004
 and critical momentum was achieved from 2008 onwards, the result of
 which is that we now have an approved Wikimedia India chapter - awaiting
 registration in India as a non-profit organisation (for more see:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India). The Wikimedia India
 chapter is currently being registered as a 'society' in Karnataka and
 will function as a national organisation. As a 'society' it is required
 to have founding 'members' - and in our case, those members are Arun
 (President), Sundar (Secretary), Hari (Treasurer), Gautam, Srinivas and
 Arjuna. (See:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA-PostChapComVer).

 Once the chapter is recognised as a legal entity within India, these
 members will serve as the Executive Committee of the organisation.
 Contrary to earlier discussions, the Wikimedia India chapter has never
 had 'Directors' or 'Directors (designate)' - it's a society, and
 societies have members. On operation, it will, of course, extend
 membership widely to anyone who wishes to join. Chapters have a wide
 variety of functions, all of which are evolving - for now, a crude
 summary of their purpose would be that they allow individuals from
 within the community to do more than they could normally do alone,
 besides providing the benefits of a formal, organisational setup to
 utilise when necessary.

 Then we have the Wikimedia Foundation, the organisation based in San
 Francisco that is the legal home of all Wikimedia projects. Over the
 last few years, the Wikimedia Foundation has grown in staff strength and
 capacity, and works to facilitate everything we do as volunteers from
 around the world. In the last few months, and on the basis of a
 strategic planning exercise
 (http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy) the Wikimedia Foundation
 decided to actively help a few geographies grow, one of which is India.

 The National Country Director job that Barry Newstead (Chief Global
 Development Officer) talked about on this list
 (
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2010-August/000850.html
 )
 is a position that will report to him, which is to say, the staff
 employed at the Wikimedia Foundation office in India are exactly that,
 and not to be confused with the India chapter - they are a separate
 entity, an off-shoot of the Wikimedia Foundation in San Francisco,
 though they will obviously be working closely with both the community
 and the chapter. Further clarifications on the Wikimedia Foundation's
 office plans in India are available in this email from Barry
 (
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2010-August/000849.html
 ).

 I trust this helps somewhat in understanding the landscape.

 Cheers,
 Achal

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] community, chapter and foundation: who is who and who does what

2010-10-07 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Thanks Achal. We now have a basic press-kit(?) with us. Hope this will
help a bit in getting more clear reports from the media and give a basic
understanding of who-are-these-bunch-of-people to anyone in general public.

When did we have http://wikimedia.in with us? (Or was I sleeping :( :O ) .
Anyways nice to have the domain :) I have moved it to
http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Presskit

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:17, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Srikanth: I have substantially added to the page. Please take a
 look. And I hope some others might be interested in adding to/refining
 this information too?

 Once done, I'd suggest we put it out as a standard reference to anyone
 interested in us, especially from the media.

 The current page is:

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/Wikimedia101

 Shiju's suggestion is to move this page (and any other public
 non-internal information) to http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Main_Page

 and it makes a lot of sense. If you agree, can you just move the whole
 thing over - and then send it out for others to use/add to and see?

 I think this will be quite useful going forward.

 Cheers,
 Achal



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] community, chapter and foundation: who is who and who does what

2010-10-07 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 13:18, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great. I've cleaned it up further - now anyone who wants to add to this
 or help, please go to

 http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Presskit


Nice, can this also be translated to Indian languages. Atleast by the Indic
wiki communities which interact with press often. Might also help during
outreach programs.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiBhasha Mediawiki extension

2010-10-18 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

Just read Microsoft India research team open sources WikiBhasha -
http://goo.gl/sKlA . From the README file, I understand WikiBhasha is a
media wiki extension aimed at enabling user communities in creating
multilingual content in Wikipedia. Can someone who know more explain about
this extension. Does any Indic wiki use this at the moment?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] mobile editing reading of Wikipedia

2010-10-26 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:34, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 Arjuna makes a good point on language support. As for the data costs,
 don't some providers (I know MTS does) provide access to Wikipedia for
 free?


Have you used MTS free Wikipedia? I overheard they are falsely advertising
but actually it costs something. (like only en.wiki is free and data charges
apply for images  on the article from commons). I am not very sure on this,
anyone who uses MTS can confirm. But i have to disagree with Arjuna and feel
data charges have come down significantly over a period of time now though
may still not be affordable to a common man on the street when compared to
the dead low voice tariff. More and more alternate ways of
consuming Wikipedia on mobile needs to be developed. I particularly find
the Wikipedia layer on Google maps for mobile useful while exploring unknown
territories.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal: Wiki Marathon

2010-10-27 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi,

I have created a page where we could co-ordinate activities for en.wiki and
also link pages in other wikis.Please feel free to expand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India/Marathon1

Regards
Srikanth.L

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 13:39, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 20+ users have already signed up for the Wiki Marathon during the November
 14, 2010 week end. Expecting more users when we pep up the campaign. Some of
 us will participate in this from the Chennai Wiki meetup in planning.

 How about the progress in other Wikis, cities ?

 Ravi


 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have started a project page in Tamil Wikipedia for the proposed
 Wikithon (guess we have consensus on this name ) and people are already
 signing up.

 If all interested Indic language Wiki communities can discuss this in
 their village pumps, then we can coordinate the info in Wikimedia.in

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mumbai Meet up in the attendance of Jimmy Wales, Co-founder of Wikipedia

2010-10-27 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi,

I see a banner on en.wiki about this meetup.Nice! Is this done through some
geo-ip stuff? If so I would like banners for all wiki activities like
meetups / academies etc.

Regards
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Google Profile http://j.mp/SrikanthL


On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:38, Kundan Amitabh kundanamit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi !

 A Meet up has been organised on 31st Oct., 2010 at Mumbai.

 Alongwith others Jimmy Wales, Co-founder of Wikipedia will be attending the
 meet up.

 For details please visit:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Mumbai/Mumbai3

 All are invited to attend.

 *Please ignore the link of preceding email.*
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mumbai Meet up in the attendance of Jimmy Wales, Co-founder of Wikipedia

2010-10-28 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Great! Need to get a banner for 1st WikiMarathon after this get over. There
is a strong need to improve the Indian community in en.wiki . Infact ta /
ml have better community than what English has i guess.

PS:- Community is not just about numbers

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On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote:

 Theo/Salmaan suggested this and helped make the banner happen - visible
 only to those from India. Thanks very much.
 Bishakha


 On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Arun Ram arunra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good suggestion Srikanth. We should implement that.

 regards
 Arun


 On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan 
 srik@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I see a banner on en.wiki about this meetup.Nice! Is this done through
 some geo-ip stuff? If so I would like banners for all wiki activities like
 meetups / academies etc.

 Regards
 Srikanth.L
 Google Profile http://j.mp/SrikanthL


 On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:38, Kundan Amitabh 
 kundanamit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi !

 A Meet up has been organised on 31st Oct., 2010 at Mumbai.

 Alongwith others Jimmy Wales, Co-founder of Wikipedia will be attending
 the meet up.

 For details please visit:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Mumbai/Mumbai3

 All are invited to attend.

 *Please ignore the link of preceding email.*
 --
 Best Regards.
 Kundan Amitabh
 Ang India Technologies,
 www.angindia.org
 CH-2/52, Kendriya Vihar, Sector-11,
 Kharghar, Navi Mumbai,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Hindustan Times on yesterday's Mumbai event

2010-11-01 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Some videos of Jimmy's talk here

http://ishare.rediff.com/tags/Wikipedia
http://ishare.rediff.com/tags/Wikipedia
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On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:00, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote:


 http://www.hindustantimes.com/Wikipedia-woos-Indians-wants-them-to-be-more-active/Article1-620556.aspx

 Cheers
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Times of India on Chennai Nov 14 meetup

2010-11-05 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Diwali wishes to all.

I heard that NDTV-Hindu channel is also scrolling details of the meetup on
the channel. I guess media picks up news and is interested in wikipedia
these days i guess.(I dont know any of us reaching out to them)

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On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 16:56, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,

 Greeting and wish you all very Happy Deepavali.

 Coverage in the Times of India of the planned Nov 14th meeting.

 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Wiki-enthusiasts-to-meet-on-Nov-14/articleshow/6873609.cms


 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Wiki-enthusiasts-to-meet-on-Nov-14/articleshow/6873609.cms
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia.in being spammed

2010-11-07 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi,

Admins of wikimedia.in , please disable IP edits / put a better spam filter.
Main page itself was spammed several times in last few days.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Wikimeetup @ Chennai /Bangalore Nov 14

2010-11-15 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Provided a small meetup summary at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2#Summary_2

Regards
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 15:05, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have uploaded the remaining photos to
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Chennai_Meetup_Nov2010
 Thanks to all who organised  helped in making this meetup a success.
 Efforts of Srikanth ( logicwiki) , Ravidreams  Mahir needs special mention.

 There were more than 45 participants in total.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian

 On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:57 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Photos of the Wikimarathon :
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Chennai_Meetup_Nov2010


 On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:57 AM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wikipedia Wikimarathon @ Chennai happening right now..
 You can see the updates on twitter by searching #WPMCH2 OR #wikimarathon
 http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23WPMCH2%20OR%20%23wikimarathonhttp://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23WPMCH2%20OR%20%23wikimarathon


 The Wikimeetup @ Chennai starts at 2 PM and @Bangalore at 3 PM today

 Regards
 TinuCherian


 On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:52 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just a reminder of the upcoming Wikimeetups in Chennai and Bangalore on
 Nov 14 , this weekend
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore21

 Please do sign up if you are planning to attend.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian


 On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:25 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 A wikimeetup @ Chennai is planned for Nov 14 , 2010.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2

 The venue  agenda is currently under discussion . We need some more
 local help from Wikimedians in Chennai in organizing it.. It will be great
 if you can drop me a personal mail at the earliest , if you are willing to
 lend a hand.

 Thanks in advance.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian


 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:26 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 It has been a long time since Wikicamp 2007 Chennai...
 Planning for a Wikipedia Wikimeetup @ Chennai , possibly next month.
 Need volunteers. If you are interested , please send a personal mail
 to me .

 Regards
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Cultural differences with Indian newcomers

2010-11-20 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

While we are all working on reaching out to more and more people to join
wiki community in India, I see an area we need to focus before it becomes a
problem.Few days back there was a thread posting a link to article[1] in
which a user claimed Foreigners deleting Wikipedias India content. In the
Chennai meetup that happened last week too, there was a person claimed new
users are being BITE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BITEN by
admins among other things which indicated his lack of understanding in wiki
policies / guidelines. I just came across another ANI incident[2] involving
an Indian editor and 3 admins. Without going to details / commenting on it,
am quoting part of this comment about[3] cultural gap that exists from
being an Indian editor editing from India in an English Wikipedia dominated
by Anglophone people. He needs to know when to persist, when to back off and
needs to learn the general etiquette of the Western world

There are few common patterns / misconceptions among a set of new Indian
editors most of whom never come back to wikipedia.
  1. Admins have superpowers, remove content and BITE.
  2. Lack of understanding of wiki policies. Neutrality and Copyrights seem
to be problem areas.POV Pushing happens quite a lot and there is general
lack of awareness about copyright.
  3. Then this cultural differences.

While the examples are from English wikipedia, these issues might be common
to Indic as well as they grow.

If we could address these, we could avoid newcomers leaving wikipedia.

[1]
http://www.ciol.com/News/News/News-Reports/Are-foreigners-deleting-Wikipedias-India-content/142555/0/
[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Yogesh_Khandke_and_Three_Admins
[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidentsaction=historysubmitdiff=397820910oldid=397820751

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Sharing Presentations

2010-12-10 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

More and more presentations are being made at meetups which have become
frequent in various parts of the country and talks at other places. It would
be great to reuse them / prepare from them. I have created a page[1] with
links to presentations made. Please add more to the page if you know any.
Thanks.

[1] http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Presentations

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Best of Indian Wikipedia / Wikimedia

2010-12-12 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

We are planning for Wikipedia X Celebrations at Bangalore[1]. As part of the
event, we want to showcase / recognize best of Indian wikipedia/wikimedia
content, best efforts by communities, people behind the scenes and
outstanding individual contributions. I have created a page[2] and listed a
few that i knew. Please feel free to add to the page to make a complete list
including updates from as much communities as possible. Please post this
message in various language communities. Thank you

[1] http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore/
[2] http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore/BestofIndianWP

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WikiX-l] Fwd: [Internal-l] Wikipedia 10th Anniversary Commemorative Postmark

2010-12-13 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi,

I had posted this tweet [1] and got a  positive response by DM.
Dear Srikath, forwarded yr proposal to concerned Division (i.e. Philately).
You can follow-up with them directly, if send yr postal address.

[1] http://twitter.com/logic/status/14179393165336576

Lets keep our fingers crossed :)

Regards
Srikanth.L
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On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:44, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote:

 Fantastic !!!

 Great !!

 Fandu :-)

 When such things can happen in India?


 On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Pradeep Mohandas
 pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi,
  Some good news from Israel.
  warm regards,
  Pradeep
  User:prad2609
 
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  From: Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il
  Date: 13 December 2010 00:51
  Subject: [WikiX-l] Fwd: [Internal-l] Wikipedia 10th Anniversary
  Commemorative Postmark
  To: wiki...@lists.wikimedia.org
  Cc: Asaf Bartov asaf.bar...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 
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  Date: Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:16 PM
  Subject: [Internal-l] Wikipedia 10th Anniversary Commemorative Postmark
  To: Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
 subscription)
  interna...@lists.wikimedia.org
 
 
  Hello, everyone.
  I am pleased to announce, on behalf of Wikimedia Israel, that Israel Post
  (the Israeli monopoly postal service) will be stamping all items passing
  through several major post offices in Tel Aviv and in Haifa with a
 special
  *Wikipedia 10th Anniversary postmark*.
  You can get an idea of what it might look like (Hebrew Wikipedians are
 still
  working on the design) here:
 
 http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%A2%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%AA%D7%AA_%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94_%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%9C/%D7%97%D7%95%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%AA_%D7%90%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A2_%D7%A2%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%A8
  In addition to the anniversary, a _second_ special postmark will be
 stamped
  on all through Wikimania 2011, in August!
  To the best of our knowledge, this is the first time Wikipedia is
 featured
  on postal materials.  Is that correct?
  Dedicated philatelists and stamp-collectors among you (and your
 respective
  communities) may want to make arrangements to have something postmarked.
  In
  addition, we'll try to have some stamped items to give away.
  This cool way of marking the anniversary is the work of Wikimedia Israel
  member Liron Dorfman, who's done excellent outreach work with Israel
 Post.
  Cheers, and happy holidays,
 Asaf Bartov
 Wikimedia Israel
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-blr] Bangalore Wiki-meetup 23

2010-12-20 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Enable the Slideshow gadget in commons preferences.

Regards
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On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 22:55, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there any way to see the commons image as a slide show? It is very
 tedious to view all images one by one  :(

 Anoop

 On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:52 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please find the photos of the Wikimeetup Bangalore 23 @
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bangalore_Meetup_18Dec2010

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian

 Correction: Please read as  B. G. Mahesh ( oneindia.in )  below

 On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:55 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Blog post by BGMahesh ( one india) on the 23rd meetup.

 http://www.mahesh.com/2010/12/18/wikimedia-meetup-in-bangalore-my-first-one

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian

 On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:18 AM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just a gentle reminder regarding the Bangalore Wikimeetup23 today @ 3 PM

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore23


 Danese Cooper, Chief Technical Officer, Wikimedia Foundation, Alolita
 Sharma, Engineering Programs Manager, Wikimedia Foundation will be 
 attending
 this meetup. Unfortunately, Erik Moeller is unable to attend due to an 
 early
 flight out of the country. However, he will be available at the venue at
 around 1:30 PM.

 Please note the change in the venue this time. It is TERI auditorium ,
 but very close to CIS office.

 logicwiki  Me will be at the venue by 1-1:30 PM , so if you would like
 to help with setting up things, feel free to join us :)

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia at FOSS / College Events

2010-12-27 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

I suppose Wikipedia stall at FOSS.IN was a great start in reaching out to
FOSS / Student community in India.We must attempt to be present in a
stall at all such similar events which give space for us. I have got a
confirmation from Carte Blanche[1] for a stall and working with Wikipedians
in Chennai for manning the stall on Feb 6. There is also a fossmeet at NIT
Calicut[2] happening around the same time. Any Kerala / Malayalam
wikipedians willing to take it up? We must also keep a watch on huge
technical events at prominent colleges where we would be getting students
from the particular region and having a stall there would give a reach to
about 500-1000 Students(and/or general public).

[1] http://cb.csmit.org/
[2] http://fossmeet.in/2011/

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Banner designers required

2011-01-07 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi,

We are planning to have banner printed for the Wikipedia X Bangalore event.
We need people with design interests to help with the banner. Also if any of
you have prior experience in banner creation, please ping me off list. The
banners created can be reused by all the cities with minimal changes. These
banners will also help in future outreach events.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WikiX-l] Take pictures and record WP10 history!

2011-01-10 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Lets make sure there are enough pictures and even some videos of the event
available in commons :)

Regards
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-- Forwarded message --
From: Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org
Date: Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 13:16
Subject: [WikiX-l] Take pictures and record WP10 history!
To: Planning for WP 10th anniversary wiki...@lists.wikimedia.org


Hi folks,

Earlier today I created a page on ten.wikipedia.org to encourage everyone
participating in Wikipedia 10 events to take great pictures and video.

http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organize/Record_our_history

I can't over-emphasize how important it is for everyone hosting an event
-any event- to make sure you collect great images and video, and of course
share those images. Wikipedia 10 is a particularly good time to hone your
skills and get in the habit of documenting every single meeting and occasion
- and documenting them very well.

It's easy to overlook this step with all other planning, but please, please
don't.  If you're part of a new or established Wikimedia chapter or
organization, I absolutely promise you that having very good images on hand
will be critical at some point in the future.  Whether it's for
presentations, media, reports or other documents, or just to archive and
document your roots: take pictures!

Remember that we're documenting images for future generations, and creating
a lasting historical record of the people behind this movement.  You are all
pioneers!  And these images will shape the historic record for future
generations.

It's also something that we at the Foundation very much benefit from.
 Whether it's putting your pictures up on the walls, showing them to donors
or stakeholders, or just putting a name to a face: these images have
incredible value for us.  I also know that the chapters and other global
pieces of our movement rely on these images to build their own global
understanding of our collective work.

No event is too small!
No event is too big!

Ensure someone at your event will focus their efforts on taking the best
possible efforts.  Please make sure you don't forget to take, post, share,
and detail your images. Plan ahead!

Thank you!
jay

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[Wikimediaindia-l] OneIndia.in : Wikipedia 10th ann iversary in Chennai : சென்னை யில் விக்கிப்ப ீடியா பத்தாம் ஆ ண்டு விழா ( Tamil )

2011-01-10 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/01/10/celebrating-10th-anniversary-wikipedia-in-chennai.html

Thanks Ravi for making this article come :)
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/01/10/celebrating-10th-anniversary-wikipedia-in-chennai.html
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikita-l] OneIndia.in : Wi kipedia 10th anniversary in Chennai : ச ென்னையில் விக் கிப்பீடியா பத் தாம் ஆண்டு விழா ( Tamil )

2011-01-11 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
It was a notice about the event, with venue and agenda.

http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chennai#Agenda
http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chennai#Agenda
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2011/1/10 CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com

 Need a brief translation of the article into English, for the understanding
 of the rest of the people.
 Volunteers?

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian


 2011/1/10 Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com

 
 
 http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/01/10/celebrating-10th-anniversary-wikipedia-in-chennai.html
 
  Thanks Ravi for making this article come :)
  
 http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/01/10/celebrating-10th-anniversary-wikipedia-in-chennai.html
 
  Regards
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[Wikimediaindia-l] India specific Designs / Artwork for Wikipedia 10

2011-01-11 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

I am sharing the artwork for Wikipedia 10[1] which can be used in case you
are printing banners etc.I would add more to this album. Thanks a lot
Swapnil / Tony for getting these ready , great if we get some more :) Others
interested please feel free to reuse and remix.

PS : I have shared it under CC, I am just lazy to upload to commons, will do
so in the night.

[1]
http://picasaweb.google.com/srik.lak/WikipediaXLogosAndBanners?authkey=Gv1sRgCIbx9MjK9Y3_9gE#

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [press] : IBNLive : In pics: Indians behind Wikipedia

2011-01-14 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Lets not forget its IBN, the people who thought Wikipedia and Wikileaks are
same. Probably we need to organise a serious media - tutoring session going
forward.

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On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 00:30, Hari Prasad Nadig hpna...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:41 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 And they missed you , Alolitha and Achal Prabhala too :)

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian


 Well, isn't the title of this feature itself a bit misleading? There are
 hundreds of Indians behind Wikipedia. They should have actually titled this
 particular feature Indians in Wikimedia Foundation or such.

 Wikipedia is what it is today because of the community, the volunteers.
 It is rather unfair towards all the fine community members, editors from
 India who spend hours of their daily time editing Wikipedia when they are
 not included in what is titled Indians behind Wikipedia.  :P
  --
 Hari Prasad Nadig
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 http://flickr.com/hpnadig


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A Wikimedia Foundation Fellow from India

2011-01-16 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Congrats Achal,

While you focus on Indic languages about sources, I would also request you
to consider including lack of English sources available online on various
subjects concerning these geographies too due to slower internet adoption by
publishing companies and even lack of literature itself in first place.(Ex:-
Huge edit warring happens on en.wiki esp on caste related articles
where literature is very sparsely available).  Looking forward to more
discussions.

Regards
Srikanth.L


On 17-Jan-11, at 1:02 PM, Bishakha Datta wrote:

 Dear all,

 As part of the continuing spate of good news, I'd like to congratulate
 Achal Prabhala for becoming the latest Wikimedia Foundation Fellow.

 For those of you who don't know him, Achal is a writer and researcher in
 Bangalore who has participated as a volunteer in the Wikimedia movement in
 India and globally for years, and as a member of the Foundation’s advisory
 board.

 Achal will be conducting field research in India and rural South Africa
 with Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians across three languages to explore ways
 to compensate for the gap in published/printed sources in many local
 languages.
 More details at
 http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2011/01/12/new-wikimedia-fellow/

 Cheers
 Bishakha
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WikiX-l] [Wikimedia-IN-Exec] [Wikimedia-in-blr] Photos from WP10 Celebrations in Bangalore and Mysore

2011-01-18 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 09:53, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great pictures Hari and  Tinu.
 We need to get the pictures  from Royson uploaded as well.

 Any videos anyone?
 Did anyone record parts of the keynote, panel and Jimmy's  talk?


Entire day is recorded(but for parallel tracks in afternoon). I will get the
videos from Royson when its available. Would also get pics from him.

Regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Uses your designs are put to!

2011-01-20 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi Ashwin,

I should have clarified in the comments at Picasa. The credit must goto from
Tony / Swapnil. I just put it on my album to share the images i got on
email.

Regards
Srikanth.L


On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 16:30, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Srikanth,

 Just thought you'd like to see this? Hows that for a Creative Commons use.
 We told everybody its your design and we ate a slice in your honour too.
 Come to Pune and we'll get you more cake. :-)

 For the rest of us, our Pune cake was based on Srikanth's design from here
 :


 http://picasaweb.google.com/srik.lak/WikipediaXLogosAndBanners?authkey=Gv1sRgCIbx9MjK9Y3_9gE#

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Communication from the Executive Committee regarding first meeting

2011-02-06 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hearty congratulations to the newly elected office bearers.

Tinu,
The MoA Article[1] VII (7)  (12) would answer some of your questions
related to election of office bearers and to me it seems perfectly within
the frame of things. I think the general members get to vote only after the
current term ends for this team.(Correct me if am wrong).

Well, I do share some of the concerns raised by Tinu on transparency. It is
even more ironical how come such a major change was never
communicated, especially a thread was running on the mailing on the very
same subject of *Chapter* from Jan 30 and no one bothered to update. I feel
the role of chapter has probably not reached well among the community
[questions around edit counts becoming criteria reflect that] and in such a
situation the chapter should communicate more often and more
clearly,openly.However these sort of issues would only further widen the gap
between chapter and community in the negative direction.

While i continue to appreciate the efforts of the folks behind chapter for
spending their valuable time, I would request the EC to add communicating
to the community in a regular and timely fashion  to the code of
conduct[Article VII (8)] so that members do spend some time in communicating
with the community.

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA-ChapComVer

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On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 19:23, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Dear all,


 Following the registration of the Wikimedia Chapter, the first meeting of
 the Executive Committee (EC) was held on the 22nd January 2011 at 2 PM at
 194, 2nd C Cross, Domlur 2nd Phase, Bangalore 560071.

 As mandated by the MoA, the office bearers were elected. The executive
 committee now constitutes of:

- Arjuna Rao Chavala, *President*
- Hari Prasad HS, *Secretary*
- Anirudh Singh Bhati, *Treasurer*
- Arun Ramarathnam, Member
- BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan, Member
- Gautam K John, Member
- Srinivas Gunta, Member

 We would like to take the opportunity to thank the Centre for Internet and
 Society, Bangalore for allowing generous use of their office facility for
 the conduct of chapter meetings and helping with registration formalities
 with services of a Consultant.

 We take this opportunity to thank the following people: (in alphabetical
 order) Achal Prabhala, Barry Newstead, Bence Damokos, Bishakha Datta,
 Delphine Meynard, M Narasimha Rao, Ray Saintonge, Sunil Abraham, and Ting
 Chen.

 We thank the Wikimedia Community for their help and encouragement and
 patience with the registration process.

 For brief biographies and photos of the EC members, please see:Wikimedia
 India Chapter Executive Committee 
 Membershttp://wikimedia.in/wiki/Wikimedia_India_Chapter_Executive_Committee_Members


 On behalf of Wikimedia Chapter

 BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan,

 Member, Wikimedia Chapter

 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
 for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Please be CIVIL-- Ok Thanks Bye

2011-02-12 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
I think the only option for me next is to unsubscribe due to recent decrease
in Signal to Noise ratio.Please be CIVIL. No, am not asking you to assume
good faith(you are free to raise questions, But just asking you to be
CIVIL).I expect some support from senior members in taking a pledging to be
CIVIL. Let me start, I will be CIVIL.  #KThxBai

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] PDF rendering of Indian language wiki pages

2011-02-14 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi Santhosh,

Cool!. Just have some feedback on the generated PDF (Same article ilangai on
tamil wikipedia). I see line spacing is not uniform and some characters from
adjacent lines overlap, but a slightly more important issue is spacing
within the words for certain characters[Am not sure if its a repeatable
pattern for a particular charater], but certainly it takes a toll on
readability since it gives space with in a word. I am not sure if its a
tamil specific issue too.

Tested on Windows XP with Firefox where tamil wikipedia reads fine.

Regards
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On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 22:36, Santhosh Thottingal 
santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 We are working on a Complex script PDF rendering library named
 PyPDFLib(https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/pypdflib/). One of its
 test case (or use case) is to render a wiki page in complex script(any
 Indian Language) to PDF. Currently PDF export feature is not
 available(not working) for Indian language wiki projects because of
 technical incapability of Python Reportlab library.

 Just wanted to give an early preview of this software library through
 an online interface : http://silpa.smc.org.in/Render
 You can try with a Wikipedia page in your language and verify the generated
 PDF.
 You can also access this using this URL
 http://silpa.smc.org.in/Render?wiki=http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/இலங்கை
 (replace that wiki URL with other page addresses too - any Ianguage -
 not limited to Indian languages)

 There are lot of items not implemented, but your feedback is requested
 on the current version.
 The library uses Pango for text rendering and Cairo for graphics and
 PDF features.

 ps: Don't get surprised if you get a 500 Error page for the random
 page you are trying. Just try another wiki page ;)

 Thanks
 Santhosh Thottingal
 http://thottingal.in

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Flickr alternative to Photowalks

2011-02-17 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Some of the Initial meetups in Bangalore had just same number of people. Its
not the number that matter, as long as you meet the purpose (click and
upload to commons in this case) its successfull :), Persistent efforts will
get more people / pictures :)

Regards
Srikanth.L

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 19:40, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  RE: Srikant/Hari,

 Iv got no idea how successful photowalks have been in other cities, for
 Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 1 we had 4 of us (1 of the 4 being a visiting
 American Wikipedian). For the second, we dint seem to get a good response
 and it was delayed indefinitely. This is why I got thinking and came up with
 the Flickr alternative. In case we get a better response, yes Photowalks
 should continue.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l

2011-02-21 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 17:14, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:


 As moderators of WikimediaIndia-l, could you describe the policy you
 normally adopt towards moderation?


This is not a primer, but one thing I changed today was increasing message
size from 40 KB to 240 KB. Ideally mailing lists dont encourage attachments
/ huge mails, but sometimes like today Bala had to attach since he couldnt
upload to commons.If any of you feel the limit of 240 KB is high / low,
please comment. Also remember under current setting anything above 240 KB
will not come instantly, patience appreciated :) I think its better to mail
a list ettiqute every month annoucing list guidelines since there will be
lot of newbies to mailing list (like it will prevent invitations to join
blah blah etc). I will put a wiki page on this soon. This will also help
people aware of general mailing list ettiqute (lets not call it policy :) )

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The first legal threaten against Wikipedia India !

2011-02-25 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
While legal counsel might be important, I think the blowing the facebook
comments out of proportion IMHO is WP:UNDUE.

Regards
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On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 09:31, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 Hi Tinu:

 Thanks for posting this - yes, legal counsel and a risk assessment is
 something we are actively looking at doing - a question, would the community
 know if this has ever happened or threatened to happen earlier or is this
 the first example?

 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
 http://social.prathambooks.org/



 On 26 February 2011 08:44, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:

 Here you go ! The first legal threaten against Wikipedia India !

 To set the context to those who were not  reading the thread of
 WikimediaIndia facebook page,

 Basavaraj Itnal [1] is a senior journalist from Bangalore. He is in
 a campaign against an alleged land-grabbing and scam by a popular mall owner
 in Bangalore. He did write articles on this in the publications he is
 associated with. He even added information earlier to Wikipedia article of
 Garuda Mall [2] and apparently was blocked once ( by an Indian admin with a
 pseudo name ? ) .
 He also attended one of the Bangalore Wiki-meetups recently. After that he
 shifted to focus to fight his POV to Wikimedia India Facebook recently. [3]
 and also pushing it on the article [4] . Of late he is threatening to sue
 Wikipedia and Wikimedia admins. Knowing his aggressiveness, i don't think he
 can be taken lightly.

 I am not sure whether he is intending to sue against the Wikimedia
 Foundation, ( office in India ) or India chapter or individuals from India
 who are admins ( OMG, that includes me :) )

 Time for a legal contact in India ?

 Thoughts?

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian

 P.S.I couldn't find the contact mail id of Geoffrey Brigham, the new
 legal counsel of the Foundation.

 [1] http://twitter.com/#!/basavarajitnal
 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/basavaraj-itnal/23/a9b/4b9
 http://www.facebook.com/people/Basavaraj-Itnal/10540087375
 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garuda_Mall
 [3] http://www.facebook.com/WikimediaIndia?sk=wallfilter=12
 [4]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Garuda_Mallaction=historysubmitdiff=410530901oldid=410529958


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 update+mh17p...@facebookmail.com wrote:

  
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 Hi Cherian,
 Basavaraj Itnal commented on WikimediaIndia's wall post.
 Basavaraj wrote: anyways, while i respect what you guys are doing, i am
 actively looking for a legal recourse to make wiki admins accountable and
 available to legal action. as for Garuda issue is concerned after doubting
 the veracity of my documents without verifying them and without again cross
 checking with the govt, they just made a small correction saying Garuda Mall
 land is owned by bruhat bengaluru mahanagar palike. :)

 See the comment 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Releasing Wikipedia CD – few concerns

2011-03-01 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 00:50, Nikhil Sheth nikhil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I had a great time reading the blogpost. Very amusing. But had to clarify
 some things before we all pick up our pitch-forks and torches, so..


 http://nikhilsheth.blogspot.com/2011/03/clarification-about-wfsoe-and-english.html


I think you took it a bit personal. Shiju's blogpost IMHO is a good guide
especially for Indian languages CD creation project. Giving ZIM format dumps
has some adverse effects which was what Shiju tried to share as a best
practice. I think they are valid concerns. Let me explain.

I think he clearly mentioned about the http://schools-wikipedia.org/ project
for English wiki and there is no problem in such approaches. I think the
blog post was mainly addressing the impact of giving whole dumps of Indian
language wikipedia's, all [except English(Yes, English is also an Indian
langugage)] of which are in their early stages.

Sometime back i proposed a similar CD creation project on tamil wikipedia
and thought given that Santhosh's software is available, we could get a CD
in couple of month's time. My timeline was rightfully mocked at by the
community, with valid concerns on quality and we have just started
collecting articles, which will then be peer reviewed, copy edited etc
before we could use the software and create a CD. Along with Shiju's points,
I am sharing some important viewpoints(which i learnt from tamil community),
why i think the whole exercise of fact checking and releasing is very
important instead of just dumping them in the case of Indian language
wikipedia's.

** Who had checked the validity of the content provided in the CD? Once the
CD is created, the content is frozen for ever. We never know in what ways
the content in CD is going to get duplicated.

This is very important. Imagine students using it to write answers for
exams using this and if there is a factual error and teacher fails to give
marks, the students will never ever turn back to Wikipedia again.We are
loosing young buds here. While you might say Wikipedia is not reliable for
information source, but you can use it, for a school kid, its always
binary.Indian language wikipedia's are bound to have more spelling
mistakes(since most of us use a non native keyboard / translation and we are
human), the error rate will be even higher. Its not just about schools,
anyone who is find such errors in a published form(CD is a published form
you cant change) will find it annoying and may arrive at a prejudice which
we wouldnt want.

**How we are going to handle the copyright violation of text and images
included in the CD? Can we always point our fingers to WMF?

 This is very serious issue, its a different thing that we as individuals
might not respect copyright because of the climate in India, but as a
project Wikipedia holds copyright as one of the 5 pillars(Do I need to tell
this list about this, sorry *runs away* :D).

**Who will answer the queries related to the  explicit images contained in
many articles. The inclusion of explicit images, controversial articles, and
factual errors in the CD supplied to the school children are not small
issues.

 Not many know, Shiju may be sharing this because malayalam community
actually burnt their fingers here. There was a (politically motivated?)
 article in leading malayalam daily/magazine criticizing the effort
regarding inclusion criteria / some factual erroneous information.This may
not have been shared widely to avoid multiplication of negative publicity.
While at personal level it hurts the people who worked hard for this after
spending weeks for the project, at project level it creates a negative
publicity / impact for language wikipedia which none of us would want.

 On the content side as well, Indian wikipedia's arent that great(barring
few). The Stub ratio may be high which will give a wrong impression of
language wikipedia's to people using the offline ZIM dumps that language
wikipedia's will only have templated content stubs. While its good to have
stubs online, since they help in improvement of articles, i dont fancy stubs
on an offline wikipedia.

 While giving ZIM format dumps might be useful for people without
connectivity, IMHO its definitely not suitable for mass consumption without
a bunch of disclaimers (which might not even be understood by well educated)

 While the intentions may be good, that shouldnt cause a negative impact
to the language wikipedia is the bottom line.I hope you understand.(This was
probably missing in Shiju's blog post which made you think it was a pointing
fingers, but I am sure Shiju's intention was to share his bottom line)

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Logo updated on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-03-12 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

Tamil Wikipedia is updated with the new logo now. Special thanks to the
community behind the same. There are lot of language Wikipedia's needing the
same update.Please refer this mail[1]. Thanks

[1]
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-January/001916.html
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-January/001916.html
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] First Odia Workshop, Bengaluru,06March2011 (ପ୍ରଥମ ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକି ମେଳଣ)

2011-03-13 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
2011/3/13 Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com

 Dear All,

 The first Odia Wikipedia Workshop was conducted in CIS, Bangalore on *2011
 March 06*. Here is a brief report about it.

Great!


 Idea of using articles from Odia Encyclopedia (‘Gyanamandala’ by Binoda
 Kanungo), using Maps, Manuals, Books could be used for developing Wikipedia,
 Wikimapia, WikIBooks and WikiSource, etc were dicussed.


Wikimapia is not a project by Wikimedia foundation. Its a commercial project
which takes data in and locks it out (Much similar to google mapmaker).
Openstreetmaps[1] is a free(as in speech and beer) mapping project.

[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org

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[Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Broadband growth in India

2011-03-17 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
OffTopic

Just thought will share this Summary table[1], detailed TRAI report[2] which
might be of interest to many of us.

[1]
http://www.medianama.com/2011/03/223-statewise-broadband-subscribers-in-india-31st-november-2010/
http://www.medianama.com/2011/03/223-statewise-broadband-subscribers-in-india-31st-november-2010/
[2]
http://www.beknowledge.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/e4da3Broadband%20usrers.pdf

Doing a detailed comparative analysis of this data and Indian Wikistats
might give some insight on how Wikipedia access is correlated
to infrastructure.

Observation:- South India has more rural connections, so its obvious to
assume they are accessing more. North pretty much minus Punjab and
Gujarat are far behind in terms of rural connections.I feel growth of rural
users will have a direct impact on consumption of Indic content. Note i have
a prejudice that urban people dont use / consume regional content. I am
certainly not 100% correct.

Any other things you could see?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Broadband growth in India

2011-03-17 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Oops, forget about the second link. Its outdated. But still good as it has
data across operators. First link's data is BSNL only.

Regards
Srikanth.L

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 08:04, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote:

 OffTopic

 Just thought will share this Summary table[1], detailed TRAI report[2]
 which might be of interest to many of us.

 [1]
 http://www.medianama.com/2011/03/223-statewise-broadband-subscribers-in-india-31st-november-2010/
 http://www.medianama.com/2011/03/223-statewise-broadband-subscribers-in-india-31st-november-2010/
 [2]
 http://www.beknowledge.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/e4da3Broadband%20usrers.pdf

 Doing a detailed comparative analysis of this data and Indian Wikistats
 might give some insight on how Wikipedia access is correlated
 to infrastructure.

 Observation:- South India has more rural connections, so its obvious to
 assume they are accessing more. North pretty much minus Punjab and
 Gujarat are far behind in terms of rural connections.I feel growth of rural
 users will have a direct impact on consumption of Indic content. Note i have
 a prejudice that urban people dont use / consume regional content. I am
 certainly not 100% correct.

 Any other things you could see?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter Report, 03 January 2011 - 16 March 2011

2011-03-17 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Thanks a lot Anirudh / others behind it for a detailed report. IMHO Posting
a page on wikimedia.in and mailing the link is better and talk pages can
serve better for discussions instead of lists alone. Probably can be done
from next time.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] A history of the world in 100 seconds -- From Wikipedia

2011-03-23 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Interesting Viz. Hack using Wikipedia

http://www.ragtag.info/2011/feb/2/history-world-100-seconds/
http://www.ragtag.info/2011/feb/2/history-world-100-seconds/
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Angry with Wikileaks, Indian Union minister for law and justice Veerappa Moily lashes against Wikipedia

2011-03-31 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 14:10, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 On 30 March 2011 11:49, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote:

  Getting sick of this popular urban legand. Why dont we run a site
 notice
  banner for atleast India alone for 2 months.  Please Note :-
 Wikipedia
  and Wikileaks are 2 different things and link to a detailed note.

 Srikanth, to be fair, I think he does see it as two different things
 or so the quote implies. What he might incorrectly allude to is a
 linkage between the two but his criticism of Wikipedia is the model of
 knowledge creation.


At best it could have been the usual misqouting / edit cuts and he might
have told about Wikipedia at all. Here is what I think would have happened.
He would have got some points to speak from one of his under secretaries who
would have sourced it from his/her junior[who might have given what
Wikipedia is rightly and might have given it for context due common wiki
in the name, but might have been lost in grapevine] and hence the miinster
would have got it wrong.

Though what the minister was being quoted is a valid criticism against
Wikipedia, in all possibilities Wikipedia was never his target. I mentioned
this confusion as Urban legand since even few of Software Engineers I met
dont know the differences. A banner campaign will not only clarify Wikipedia
is not associated with Wikileaks, but would also create a larger
awareness(includes media and people from all walks of life) on Wikimedia
movement(which is lacking to a large extent even among regular readers of
Wikipedia in India). Banner campaign is very effective in India and we could
see that in Wiki 10 celebrations.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] URL Shortener in Tamil Wikipedia + URLs for Indic Wikipedia

2011-03-31 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

Happy to announce that Short URLs are now available in every page of Tamil
Wikipedia. Sharing Indic URLs with unicode characters are never fun since
one will get an ugly looking URL like
http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%86%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF
.
(Forget about twitter, even mails are tough).Now its easier
http://tawp.in/r/262 !! The short url is visible on top right of every page,
extreme right of the article title. For the technically inclined, the
shortening happens by encoding the page id of a mediawiki page to base36 (No
database for shorturls here!) and hence doesnt depend on any other server.

I would like to thank User:Mountain[1] for the shortify project[2] which
powers this. (Gerard, this is already localized in tamil,malayalam :) ). It
would be great if this could be extensionized in mediawiki as its a
feature must for wiki's running in non latin languages.I would also like to
thank YuviPanda for setting this up on his server and doing some
customization for Tamil wiki. (YuviPanda is an ubergeek looking to do some
serious work for mediawiki in GSoC), Kishore for some quick css help in
making this happen.

It would be great if this can be supported by Wikimedia itself. Even if the
fancy twitter friendly short domain name is not there,if just the
redirection part is hosted for all projects on wikimedia servers(existing
domain names will do), it will be of great use, especially for non latin
languages.

I understand Malayalam wikipedia has a redirect mechanism based on the
english interwiki title for sometime now.Even we would want to do this, but
am thinking if redirects are an optimal, search engine friendly solution or
are there better ways of doing it.Can someone please educate me. Also IMHO
URLs with transliterated text will help Indic languages. But making them
search friendly is a key thing and if we could do this, am sure the
readership would bound to increase a few times.(Not everyone knows to type
in regional language and many use transliterated text for search and then
consume vernacular content). Wikipedia is missing them!

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mountain
[2] https://github.com/mountain/shortify

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] URL Shortener in Tamil Wikipedia + URLs for Indic Wikipedia

2011-03-31 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 22:42, jayanta nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great work!  How do we add same feature in other Indic wikipedia like
 Bengali/Odia ?


To host it yourself like tawp.in follow the steps

1. Get a domain name.
2. Install node.js[1] and shortify[2] in your server.
3. Do minor changes in redirect.js in the shortify code to get suitable url
pattern.
4. Add the shortify userscript in Mediawiki:vector.js (If you want to make
it global to Wiki) or your vector skin while testing.
5. Modify the shortify userscript[3] to change the location where the short
link comes, by default it comes below username (display breaks for anon
users with the Narayam extn on, so change it to somewhere else on the page)

The above is hard way. Easy way is to localize shortify so that
User:Mountain will host it for you under defn.me domain name. It supports
tamil, malayalam now since they were localized already. Do check your
language page http://defn.me/s/or OR http://defn.me/s/
http://defn.me/s/orLangCode
for instructions. Its 10 min job :) (If you got problems here, send me
across the localized file, i can commit in github if thats your problem)

Anoopan,
It works in ml since it was already localized :)

Jayanta nath / Subhasish,

You can also consider PrettyURL[4] from ml wiki. Pesture Shiju / other ml
friends :). Its just a template, but the problem is one needs to run a bot
for all existing articles to add the template with a fancy name.But ml wiki
is primarily using english names, transliterated text to form pretty urls.
Just as i type, Santhosh replied. More on another reply.


[1] http://nodejs.org
[2] https://github.com/mountain/shortify
[3] http://tawp.in/r/1ygr -- Modified shorturl.js for position on right of
article title.
[4]
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:Prettyurl --
Its funny, prettyurl template extension url isnt pretty :P

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Search Engine Optimization in Indic Wiki

2011-03-31 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
 Starting a new thread for SEO

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 23:31, Santhosh Thottingal 
santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Srikanth mentioned a valid issue related to search engine optimization
 with Indian wikis. I dont get any result for this query:
 Malayalam + Mango   to take me to Mango article in Malayalam wiki.
 Because there is no way a search engine can index the word Mango in
 english to the Malayalam wiki page of Mango. Having Mango in URL does
 not help search engines.
 I know some SEO tricks used by Malayalam news portals to address this.
 They use Meta tag efficiently and put english and malayalam keywords
 associated with the article. For eg: a news article about
 Mullapperiyar Dam will contain a meta tag with keywords
 മുല്ലപ്പെരിയാര്‍ ഡാം, mullapperiyar dam, 
 Some of the news portals even integrated this trick their news
 publishing workflow with custom plugins to CMS systems(like Drupal).

 If we want to get people searching in English to our wiki articles, we
 can think about a Meta tag solution - some extension that injects
 keywords to meta tag.

 Don't we need to point show ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kochi if one search
 for Kochi? atleast within first 10 results?


 Completely agree with you Santhosh. SEO is as important as outreach (its
online outreach after all). Ravi,Sundar,myself were discussing this on a
dinner after a meetup. But manually adding Meta tags is an additional
overhead on content creators IMHO. If there is some automatic tagging with
interwiki english page category etc(Bot idea ?), its worth a try.

Ravi, can you please add more since you are an expert :)


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] URL Shortener in Tamil Wikipedia + URLs for Indic Wikipedia

2011-03-31 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 07:14, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote:

 After talking with Srikanth for a bit more, I was able to quickly
 hackup this mediawiki extension[1] that does exactly the same thing
 tawp.in does now, but in the same domain. So you'll have URLs like
 http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ShortUrl/262. While definitely
 longer than http://tawp.in/r/262, it can be made much shorter via a
 simple apache mod_rewrite so http://ta.wikipedia.org/r/262 also works.
 The advantage of having it as an extension is, ofcourse, that the
 wikipedia is no longer dependent on code run on a 3rd party server (in
 this case, tawp.in).

 [1]: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ShortUrl


Now that is *really quick*. It would definitely be useful for not just
wikipedia, any non latin mediawiki can use this.There was a request on tamil
wikipedia for tamil wikinews as well. I think polishing this and making it
available on all non latin wiki will help :)


 Feedback welcome :)


Feedback from mediawiki extn perspective : Options to set the ShortURL to
be displayed on client side will help. For instance I could install this on
mediawiki server, but for shortname sake I may still want the short domain
name to be used (I might use mod_rewrite in the short domain). Also base 36
will not be able to cater larger wiki's like en.wiki. This should be made
configurable. Probably the simplest way to display in client side is to add
a line to Toolbox page. (This will make it standardized) and also makes it
load faster since there wont be an additional js download and will work even
when non js browsers. ( #facepalm to me for having spent a long time trying
to bring it on right spot on the UI [and still its buggy on FA pages])

Please post to Wikitech-I to get more technical feedback :)


 P.S. My first ever mediawiki extension. I've verified it works, but
 testing would be welcome too :)


Welcome to Mediawiki. We need more love from geeks like you :) especially
for a lot of indic solutions. Feel free to mail this list with any ideas you
may have.


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Feedback] or [What was I upto?]

2011-04-01 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Good idea Srikanth, Well someone is working / want to work on similar lines.

Check out the GSoC proposal here:- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Zhenya


http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:ZhenyaHope the project gets accepted
and delivered :)

Regards
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On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 19:41, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
rsrikant...@gmail.comwrote:

 Heya again.

 I thought of this idea today. I figured it might help.Hope

 How about we [on a regular basis], list out our major contributions on
 various Wikimedia projects on a periodic basis?

 The advantages of this stupidity are:
 * Editors might find someone else who edits articles of similar nature and
 this will lead to more collaboration and team work.
 * People can get feedback on their edits and can help other users improve
 OR improve themselves.
 * This results in cross-editing, the overall quality of articles will go
 up.

 Examples are:
 * I edit something related to a certain National Highway. Users like
 Naveenpf or SBC-YPR might have some photographs or references, and might add
 it.
 * I create an article in Hindi, somebody sees it and translates it to
 Tamil.

 Advantages are aplenty, do let me know what you think of this.

 --
 Regards,
 ME.
 Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement
  My infrastructure invasion... plus other images
 too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq

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[Wikimediaindia-l] URLs in 7 Indian languages

2011-04-05 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

Just when we were having discussions on urls, here comes

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_urls-in-7-regional-languages-soon_1528401

Experts say companies will try to race to book their names under all seven
languages to prevent the misuse of their names and trademarks.

Can the foundation / chapter block Wikipedia domain names in all these
languages as soon as they come to prevent misuse?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] URL Shortener in Tamil Wikipedia + URLs for Indic Wikipedia

2011-04-12 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Thanks much Yuvi. Great work. Looking forward for more hacks. I would post
about this in Wikitech list and ask for suggestions / using the extension
across Indic / non latin wikimedia projects. Probably we can rename as
TidyURL since its not really short and short is not we care about,tidy is
important(its a nice to have). Some more support for using the extension on
all projects will do good in seeing this in real :)

Regardis
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On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 02:01, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Short Update.

 As requested by Srikanth, I've implemented the user configurable URL
 Prefix so any domain with proper forwarding can be used. I've also
 added a link by default to Toolbox. Will add base64 encoding soon.

 The Extension is live at http://wiki.busroutes.in. Example 'short' url
 is http://wiki.busroutes.in/wiki/Special:ShortUrl/18q. We could
 implement mod_rewrite rule and get it much shorter.

 Is there interest in getting this out to tawiki? We could have URLs
 like, http://ta.wikipedia.org/r/1d2 or similiar.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Language Wiki Results in Google (With a Chrome Extension)

2011-04-13 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Great!! What more, this comes on Tamil New year !!

Agree with Sundar that Google must push this from server side. Instead of
spending huge money on translations etc, these efforts actually help Indic /
regional language Wikipedia's

Regards
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On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:58, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Great, Yuvi. Let's all use this feature ourselves and hopefully Google will
 take not of it and promote the other language wiki pages in their search
 results themselves.

 - Sundar

 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
 for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
 - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture

 --- On *Thu, 4/14/11, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Language Wiki Results in Google (With
 a Chrome Extension)
 To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. 
 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 12:31 AM


 Update: I've now added ability to change language. Just go to
 'Options' (from the extensions page) and enter your language code (hi
 for hindi, etc). Needs a big UX liftup though.

 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Yuvi Panda 
 yuvipa...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=yuvipa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I've been working for a few hours on a Chrome extension to add links
  to Indic Language Wiki pages when searching in Google. It hooks into
  Google's search results, and if it finds an enwiki article (to which a
  tawiki interwiki link also exists), it'll display it side by side.
  Screenshot here: http://min.us/mbmIeeUOb8y00p#1
 
  You can test the extension by installing it from here:
 
 https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gpoogepkjnjfmpijnpaocncdjbedaeeo/
 
  It is open source, and the code is available here:
  https://github.com/yuvipanda/yenWikipedia/. You can file issues here
  https://github.com/yuvipanda/yenWikipedia/issues/.
 
  Known issues:
  1. Doesn't work when Google Instant is turned on (turn it off)
  2. Doesn't work for some country specific subdomains (which don't have
  /search url part. Current solution: use google.com :P)
  3. Currently hardcoded to display links to tawiki only (Will have to
  build an options dialog to support other languages)
  4. Needs a better logo (Help in this department would be highly
 appreciated :) )
 
  I think this is one step forward in fixing the search issue -
  discovering content in Indic Language wikis is now easier.
 
  Thanks to Srikanth Lakshmanan for alpha testing.
 
  Feedback welcome :)
 
  P.S. I'm also working on a Firefox version of this addon. Stay tuned :)
 
  --
  Yuvi Panda T
  http://yuvi.in/blog
 



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] MediaWiki selects eight students for Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-04-26 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Congrats guys!

Looking forward to your work especially these which interest me.
1) Ajaxification of Everything
2) Extension for offline access (Much discussed here offlate)
3) SocialProfile extension.

Feel free to drop by here for feedback at anytime.

Regards
Srikanth.L


On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 08:40, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congrats guys !!!
 Good to see the your project pages.



 On 26 April 2011 08:21, Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2011/04/mediawiki-selects-8-students-gsoc-2011/

 * Akshay Agarwal‘s “Account Creation, Login Screens and AJAX-ification of
 everything” (mentor: Brandon Harris)
 * Kevin Brown’s “Working Archival for Web References/Citations,” “to
 facilitate the archival of external links used as references in the
 English Wikipedia” (mentor: Neil Kandalgaonkar)
 * Devayon Das‘s “Improving Semantic Search/Semantic Query usability issues
 in SMW” (mentor: Markus Krötzsch)
 * Ankit Garg‘s “Semantic Schemas extension” (mentor: Yaron Koren)
Salvatore Ingala‘s “AMICUS: Awesome Monolithic Infrastructure for
 Customization of User Scripts” (mentors: Brion Vibber and Max Semenik)
 * Aigerim Karabekova‘s “Extension Release Management” (mentors: Sam Reed,
 Priyanka Dhanda, and Chad Horohoe)
 * Yuvi Panda‘s “Making Offline Wikipedia Article Selection Easier with
 Mediawiki Extensions” (mentor: Arthur Richards)
 * Zhenya Vlasyenko‘s “MediaWiki Extension: SocialProfile – UserStatus
 feature” (mentor: Jack Phoenix)

 Out of 8, 4 students are from India!. Congrats and best wishes to  Akshay
 Agarwal ,  Yuvi Panda, Devayon Das and Ankit Garg.

 Thanks
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?

2011-04-26 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
During the chennai meetup, one gentlemen had told us people from
blind-user-group do access Tamil Wikipedia through a screen reading software
they have and it was pleasant news to us.

Regards
Srikanth.L


On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:05, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@googlemail.com
 wrote:


 http://www.deccanherald.com/content/156361/kanaja-now-accessible-blind-too.html
 Kannada encyclopaedic website is accessible for blind.
 How about our Wikipedias?
 Has any attempts been made in the past?

 Cheers
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] MediaWiki selects eight students for Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-04-27 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 23:25, Akshay Agarwal akshay.leadin...@gmail.comwrote:


 I was wondering if we could organize a meetup for us, four GSoC students 
 Wikimedia India community so that we get a real sense of bonding  we
 newbies can learn a lot of things from the community!


Why dont you guys hang out at #wikimedia-in on freenode whenever online. As
of now its kind of dead with only yannf and bernard_x logging in. If you 4
guys join in, many more might also hang out. This is also a request to
community members to join in IRC when they are free and IRC is not just for
monthly open office with programs!


 -Akshay Agarwal

 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks everyone :)

 Special Thanks to Srikanth Lakshmanan and Arun Ganesh for pulling me
 into Wikipedia related stuff :)


Thanks for coming in, community needs lot many enthusiast folks like you.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Meetup 4 at Hyderabad

2011-05-07 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

Wikimeetup 4 @ Hyderabad is scheduled to be held on May 15, 5 pm - 7 pm at
Lamakaan,Banjara Hills.Plans to increase Wiki activities[read monthly
meetups], outreach programs,increasing contributor base in the city will be
discussed. As usual there will be an introductory session for all new
comers. Hisham might be joining us to provide an update on India
programs.Agenda will be updated in the coming days. Please refer meetup page
for more details and sign up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MHB4 .
Would also be great if you could spread the word around. Looking forward to
meeting as many Cyberabad folks at the meetup.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Global Fund raising Support to Indian Currency

2011-06-13 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Aww, bureaucracy!

I think 80G is nice to have, but shouldnt stop us. Also we are not probably
looking at large scale(We would love if they come), but typically my
equivalents to 5 10 20 dollors would 250 500 1000 INR for which most would
not take trouble of getting receipts and eventually getting the
benefit(Atleast the folks who do online donations) since the tax benefit
would be negligible.

So my next question is without which are we eligible to collect donations
online, would just like to know the bureaucracy around it? I now know the
chapter can receive donations through NEFT[1].If we are good to go then the
next thing to work out would be a payment gateway / payments partner helping
us in giving options to various bank netbanking / credit/debit cards,
ofcourse a decent API. The more the merrier. Also if we could get some
sponsorship/deal from them in terms of the cut they take for transaction
cost. People who have experience with online payment solutions can add their
inputs.

[1] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/images/9/92/Wikimedia_Donation_Form.pdf

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On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 22:21, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 Hey Srikanth:

 Timely reminder - but as always, bureaucracy is a stumbling block. 80G
 registration takes a long time - we can only apply around 6 months
 after registration and so this is going to take a while longer.

 =(

 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
 http://social.prathambooks.org/




 On 13 June 2011 21:28, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I am writing this mail to ask Chapter folks / Wikimedians experienced in
  Global Fundraising as to get some information on our preparedness to
 support
  INR currency in the Global Fundraising initiative which would be up later
  this year. I am under impression, Chapter is one of the pre-requisite.
 Now
  that we have a Chapter and that it has a bank account, I would like to
 know
  what else would it take to support INR this year. I would appreciate if
  Chapter takes this up as a key project(I dont see this listed currently)
 and
  helps in this since it is largely in legal / administration thing. I hope
  the community would always do its part, be it translating the banners,
  things which can be done by individual contributors.
 
  * Providing support to donations in INR is 1st priority
  * Optionally providing tax rebate under donations, would attract more
  donors.
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Global Fund raising Support to Indian Currency

2011-06-13 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
And
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/Chapter_Fundraising_Agreement
also
needs to be looked at in detail.

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On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 22:21, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 Hey Srikanth:

 Timely reminder - but as always, bureaucracy is a stumbling block. 80G
 registration takes a long time - we can only apply around 6 months
 after registration and so this is going to take a while longer.


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 92 (Action Required)

2011-06-18 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 01:58, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote:

 Can somebody please set the mailing list to block such messages?


Done, will update moderation for more spam as they come. Thanks


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Boxbe and mailing lists.

2011-06-22 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 14:38, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,
 We have recently noticed that many of the subscribers to various Wikimedia
 are using Boxbe services.

 This creates lots of problem for the mailing lists since unwanted
 notifications are sent to the list from your id.

 We would appreciate if we could put mails from *@lists.wikimedia.org to
 some kind of white list.


Thanks Tinu for the guideline. I have added BoxBe to list spam filter,
linkedIn invitations are still a problem as i havent figured out the way to
handle. Ideally it can come from top down from lists perspective. I have
raised a bug here[1]. But then best thing always, may better sense prevail
in first place!

[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29526

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] About description of of Wikipedia

2011-06-22 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 21:25, Subhashish Panigrahi
psubhash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 We are amid of an ongoing description of changing the current description
 of Odia Wikipedia.

 The present description is as below-
 ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ (Odia Wikipedia)
 ଗୋଟିଏ ଖୋଲା ଭାଷାକୋଷ (Eka khola bhasakosa meaning An Open Encyclopedia)


Before we would go to encyclopedia, I would like to correct about Open. It
must be free encyclopedia[Free is a word play in English, meaning both free
in beer and speach] but free as in freedom must be used instead of open.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki love to encourage users.

2011-06-26 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

English Wikipedia is expected to get this gadget enabled for all users to
encourage Users pat on each other to motivate editors. Translating the
initiative to Indic Wikipedia's will encourage new users motivated when
people give these awards. Tamil Wikipedia already has the older version of
WikiLove in use and might soon be using the newer version. Customizing the
culture is also a key, Not sure if people would love Beer here.

http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/06/24/wikilove-an-experiment-in-appreciation/

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Please change it - Indian Maps on Wikipedia

2011-07-25 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 14:10, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:

 My only intention was to ask the community on how to handle such mails or
 request.

 -TC


Point such people to appropriate places like discussion pages , notice board
(oops, it cant handle more NOW,but yes ideally). IMO bringing content
disputes to mailing list, chapter is slightly Off Topic ish / doesnt serve
purpose, simply because they are not governing any content. Its totally
different thing if a Wikipedian asks for opinion / comes out of a media
post, even then list isnt the ideal place,it only calls for more trolling
since people arent obliged to stick to values which when broken can get a
block on wiki.[Refer Socio Cultural relevance of Sanskrit Wikipedia blah
blah some months back]. [[On a seperate note, we havent framed a block
policy for the list, but I presume day is not far when we may be in need of
it]]

The audience of the list is so spread over that it might be spammy even to
discuss a largely relevant issue like this, since its still just another
English Wikipedia POV dispute and thats it where as list is for Discussion
of Wikimedia Projects in India.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Top indic Administrators

2011-07-28 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:25, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote:

  I don't know why, but I feel that he is requesting almost every (just
 exaggerating :)) extension available for mediawiki to Hindi Wikipedia and
 using Wikipedia as his test wiki.


Almost every extension, lol.[1] for those curious. To be fair it was not
just mayur, it was hindi community[2]. However i havent seen an en masse
voting like that, it resembled our Indian state assemblies and how they pass
resolutions.

[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29823
[2] http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/विकिपीडिया:New_Extensions

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Request to the list administrators

2011-08-02 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 17:10, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote:

 and, perhaps this also goes out to the listadmins of the -pune and
 -westbengal lists. Will you consider a request to ensure that these
 lists are available via gmane.org as well ? It allows one to use a
 conventional newreader to go through the lists.


Something that has been in discussion recently[1].

[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25105

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Impressions, an online international photography competition

2011-08-16 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:08, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 More info here:

 http://takshashila.org.in/

 And here:


 http://takshashila.org.in/events/india-impressions-photography-competition/india-impressions-photography-competition-rules/

 What makes it interesting for us is that it is a CC-BY-SA license.
 And, I think, the first time the Government of India is participating
 in something that is CC-BY-SA licensed.


Err, Its CC-BY-NC-SA. We cant use the pictures. :( A letterhead from Chapter
to remove NC clause might help? Since the aim of the initiative is to
portray high quality pictures about India and anyone who scouts for pictures
come to Wikipedia, hence the probability of usage will be high if its on
Wikipedia and hence request you to change.. of sorts letter. It can be even
dual licensed by CC-BY-SA and private agreement(?) so the photographers dont
loose their share of money?

But glad govt is atleast thinking of CC licenses even if its NC.

Arun,
Just curious how do you get into special arrangements with your picture? It
is a form of dual licensing, and is it supported by Commons ?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] BECOME AN AUTHOR: O.B.Publication's Invitation

2011-08-25 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 14:00, Dr. Krishna N. Sharma (PT) 
dr.krisha...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

  I am happy to inform you that the *O.B. 
 Publication*http://www.onlinebooks.shop.ms/is inviting yousnip


Please let me know why you shouldnt be banned for posting advertisements
repeatedly. It is totally irrelevant to Wikimedia and you did not even had
the courtesy to put an Off Topic on subject. Using this forum for
advertisement is highly condemned. Please refrain from using the list for
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF, India Office and Chapter - Update

2011-08-26 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:57, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 On 26 August 2011 11:50, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote:

  If it is English, WikiProject Education in India will give a try, we are
 40 in numbers now ..
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:INEI

 Oh! Thanks Naveen. We'll definitely keep you guys involved with this.



Err, both of you are totally disconnected.

Naveen,
Education program is about interacting with colleges about use of Wikipedia
included in teaching learning process, like Campus Ambassador program where
people edit as part of curriculum.

Gautam,
WP:INEI is a WikiProject aiming improvement of articles in English wikipedia
related to education in India and has goals like improving coverage of
Indian education related articles.

Ofcourse, if one student who participates from each college on education
program writes / improves his/her own college article, WP:INEI can also
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Wiki Academy @ College -- Template

2011-08-27 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Forwarding since it may be relavent.

All,

I had recently mailed my contact about arranging a Wiki academy, I have just
modified few words to templatize it. Please feel free to modify / use for
your needs.

http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy_Proposal_Template

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Online Volunteers needed for India Loves Wikipedia - Outreach

2011-08-28 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi,

I just hit across a treasure of ~200 black and white pictures[1] (in CC) of
India in 1978/79. Looks like someone had pictures of a traveller and
uploaded into flickr set. Downside being not all pictures have description,
so we dont know where they fit in. But am sure collectively we can guess
them, so request all interested to leave a comment on each photo, if you
know what it could be about / where it is.

The other thing being, does anyone have flickrripper bot access on the list
and can help? I intend to hunt more like these and get more sets which can
be bulk uploaded.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34517490@N00/sets/72157614503720184/

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Online Volunteers needed for India Loves Wikipedia - Outreach

2011-08-28 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 13:31, Sreejith K. sreejithk2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Photos taken in 1978 is not in public domain yet. So these pictures cannot
 be uploaded to commons unless we get explicit permission from the
 photographer.


 I just hit across a treasure of ~200 black and white pictures[1] (*in CC*)
 of India in 1978/79. Looks like someone had pictures of a


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for Participation

2011-08-30 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:56, Surinder Rinku becomeaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Speaking/presentation is not a pre-requisite for attending the
 conference? Is it not? I would just want to be there. Is there a
 procedure/form I need to fill to get an ID or an entry pass of sort?

 Can you please revert back


Yes, you could attend the event without speaking. Registrations will open
soon, please register.

Note :- Selected Speakers should also register. Talk selection does not give
free registration / access to event, it just gives a talk slot.


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for Participation

2011-08-30 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:04, Surinder Rinku becomeaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 How much will be the registration charges?


Please stay tuned for announcements. We are in the process of finalizing
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for Participation

2011-08-30 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 15:08, Adethya Sudarsanan adethyas...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 can we edit our submission ? I made a submission and now I want to add some
 more points to it ?

 Is it possible?

 Thanks in advance,
 Adethya


Sure, Anything before 23:59:59 tonight IST

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Arthapedia - Indian Gov Site on the lines of Wikipedia

2011-09-03 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 22:20, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 Not really a Wikipedia model, what?

 Crying shame about the license.

Only valid concern is about license, but then if its about bridging the gap
between policymakers and general public, I feel it will be yet another
tam-tam site from govt and will have no encyclopedia content. We could
still use the content as RS since it comes from govt.


 Wondering if the Chapter and the Office can do anything?

FYI: Arthapedia is available at arthapedia.in


I dont think there is a room for involvement since the goals are not even
intersecting except that they use Mediawiki. Looking at the site, an academy
about how to put Wiki texts(syntax), making successful Interlinked content
can be given a shot, but then it will help only their project and public
over all and may be a fraction of them editing Wikipedia. Currently they are
just copy pasting documents without interlinking. Some Mediawiki
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You can't copy-paste this homework

2011-09-10 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Good article on the INDIAEDU programs. :)

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 14:05, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 You can't copy-paste this homework


Well, but some reality check, quite a few have been found copying[1], the
drive is on to educate more about copyrights and inform them copying is
wrong. But this is a big cultural issue, we have to expect and work on it as
more and more of the 1000 start to edit. If you wish to help, please sign up
for online ambassadors and help the INDIAEDU program participants.


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fluffernutter/checks
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-10 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 08:18, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowgi.org wrote:

 I personally think we should encourage and use the free software
 alternatives like identi.ca, diaspora so that the event takes an
 opportunity to promote these media which protects user's freedom.

 By linking your account to other facebook or twitter followers to
 identi.ca account you will help tell the world that microblogging can be
 done with free software as well and your event supports/sponsors identi.ca.


 I do hope the mediawiki conference supports free social media and uses this
 occasion to spread this message among the wikimedians.


I think its best not to confuse / group free knowledge and free software
always. The primary intent of engaging in social media is to promote / reach
out about the mission, not free social media. If you wish to promote Wiki
Conference / Wikimedia in any of the free social media you mentioned, please
come forward. Other social media will anyways link to it since it will have
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You can't copy-paste this homework

2011-09-10 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 16:23, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote:

 A question - how hard is it to write a bot that runs contributions
 through Google and flags it based on the degree of match and whether a
 footnote exists or not?

 One such bot existed called corensearchbot which used yahoo to flag
 copyvios. But yahoo changed its terms of service and it had be to stopped.


Infact, we need not go all automatic way, the kind of copying here is very
elementary. 1500+ chars without wiki syntax means something suspicious.None
of us write paragraphs at one shot. I guess Huggle might already flag
those(not sure). I just added watchlist to all course pages[1], so
that ambassadors could monitor them and check manually. It will be great if
some common template is applied on all talk pages where students edit so we
could get one consolidated watchlist with some template. Will work over
sometime during next week.

On the other hand, if the teachers could monitor individual watch-list for
content getting added as and when it will be good. Instead of doing one
review at end, spotting diffs would mean lesser rework for students,shorter
the duration junk stays(Some of the topics chosen by the program have very
few watchers). But it cant be done by ambassadors without subject knowledge.
I definitely cant review Artificial Intelligence topics :D

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Courses

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[Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] Telegraph : It’s a Wiki Wiki world!

2011-09-11 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110911/jsp/7days/story_14492284.jsp

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Copyright Violations by (some) Students: Wikipedia India Education Program

2011-09-12 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 15:48, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:


 I said that the current actions were overblown.


No second thoughts on the issue and actions being taken. But I guess Gautam
has a point here. This set of copyvios were detected very early(majorly ~50
students' edits were monitored and reported), others are not yet on editing
mode still. 50 / 1000 is not some, but I would say few. But its key we take
this seriously before it explodes to a scale we cant handle since Indian
editors / newbies are already infamous for copyvios and we dont want to add
more such folks.

Apart from copyvios which can be detected since they are from online
sources, quite a few students write bookishly (which makes me wonder if they
are copying from local texts). I kind of feel(personal opinion) that
*deadlines* , *marks* are making quite a few of them to treat this as yet
another homework and in turn have the done and dusted attitude. Of course
there have been some good contributions, but it has been rare for the
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam is live

2011-09-12 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 23:46, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hoi,
 I am really happy that Narayam, the extension that provides you with input
 methods for your languages is live for some of them on some of the projects.
 Have a look and let us know how you like it.


Thanks much Gerard for pushing this awesome effort of Santhosh / team into
live on projects. More UX improvements, the typing tool just got better,
Kudos.

'wmgUseNarayam' =
 array(

 'default' =
 false,

 'testwiki' =
 true,

 'mlwikiquote' =
 true,

 'mlwikibooks' =
 true,

 'mlwiktionary' =
 true,

 'mlwikisource' =
 true,

 'mlwiki' =
 true,

 'tawikibooks' =
 true,

 'tawikisource' = true,

Yes,




 'tawiktionary' =
 true,




No, probably you got some other version,Tamil Wiktionary is not yet live.
Its next big thing after Wikipedia, so we would enable after testing on
Wikibooks / Wikisource. First impressions on testing, no issues found,
however we would do a thorough testing this time, since we would like to
have Narayam on all Tamil wiki projects.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-15 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 16:48, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowgi.org wrote:


 There are technical ways to push messages to the popular proprietary social
 media like facebook and twitter.  Therefore you do not loose anyone, but at
 the same time we can also push a message about free social media, which is
 in the larger interest of free knowledge community.


Agree with you that tecnical solutions exist, but then we are not the only
one to use proprietary social media. So its not bad using it. Everyone
uses it, be it Jimmy or events like Wikimania. The primary intent is to
reach out and in a simple way. Well as i mentioned before, If you want help
out spreading the word by using free media, you are more than welcome.

Lets not also get paranoid about Free stuff, which case the conference needs
to have a hotel which only uses Free stuff (right from bubble top
water,everything is proprietary)  and so on. Lets get real, while we support
free culture, we need not always be living for it.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fuel hike - Facebook hoax

2011-09-17 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 01:02, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why did Wikipedia have to figure in this? :-)


 http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/tathagatabhattacharya/2947/62714/facebook-petrol-price-hoax-think-before-you-like.html


Outreach issue. It shows that even educated urban mass need awareness
about what Wikipedia is and how it works, most of them know its just a
website anyone can edit and hence has a view its not reliable at all(though
it does for a small amount of time until eventual consistency is reached).
Quoting a meta

It is the users' responsibility to verify the authenticity of any
 information circulated through Facebook posts or Wikipedia articles.
 Otherwise, fiction will continue to pass off as fact and emotions will
 continue to be stirred for wrong reasons.


That person who has written it hasnt verified what Wikipedia is and just
posting fiction to pass off as fact and stirring emotions for wrong reasons!
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WikiConference-India 2011] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Withdrawal of Pune community - Re : Pune community

2011-09-19 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 22:30, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@mit.edu wrote:

 Why can't we work together? Please explain and discuss.

 Best,


Shekhar,
Can we take this discussion out of India list, Some have already protested
against the use of India list for Conference related discussions unless its
an announcement.  This can still be discussed within Mumbai / Pune mailing
lists, if need be the Conference list.

All,
Whoever is replying to the email by Shekhar, please please remove India list
from it. Lets not spam people out.

General notice,
Unless the reply to any mail which is crossposted across lists is relevant
to people on any of the crossposted list, Can we please take a extra second
in removing them off instead of just doing a reply-to-all blindly. This will
make life of so many people better :)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WikiConference-India 2011] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Withdrawal of Pune community - Re : Pune community

2011-09-20 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:25, Mandar Kulkarni mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:

  Dear Pradeep,

 Thank you very much for your email and appreciating that Pune Community has
 done some work for the wiki-conference in last 2-3 months. We have not
 stopped people to participate individually in the conference activities.


Please Please Read the mails posted on the list before. STOP on this thread.

Next time some one discusses Conference topics on India list, I am going
to put them on moderation.

This thread is closed. STOP replying.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-09-21 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 13:51, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:


 Can mailman not be configured to automatically reject such mails? There has
 to be someone somewhere on the wikimedia tech team who can fix this.


Yes, this problem exists across lists, the solution given was list owners to
contact the folks and get the ID removed from profiles. I did first time,
this is second time, I dont know how many more folks have it Linkedin uses
the primary email if invitee in header so may by pass. I think this will
happen only if the invitee is also a member of list.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-09-21 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 15:09, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Filters can be added in mailman so that mails with some keywords like
 invite can be blocked.
 This is done in many Free/Open source mailing lists.


This list uses Invite widely for meetups etc. I have added Linked*in into
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on ILUGC wikipedia stall

2011-09-22 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:51, Pradeep Mohandas
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.comwrote:

 hi,

 Do you have any pics of the stall? It would be nice to see it. Might give
 others idea on how to do such a thing themselves?


https://picasaweb.google.com/102129583091345389661/SoftwareFreedomDay2011#5653960474753392882
--
Surya receiving the book as prize. Couldnt find any pics of Wikipedia
stall. SFD was organized in a very short time this year i guess, when i
have been few years back, there were proper stalls. Nonetheless its more of
a learning experience for students / improve presentation / public speaking.
Art of pitching in a stall is unique and will only improve by experience,
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[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 -- Call for Participation Results

2011-09-22 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

Call for Participation results for WikiConference India are out. Of the 550+
total submissions and 190+ relevant submissions, we are happy to announce
the results.

Selected Submissions :-
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Selected_Submissions
Review of Submissions :-
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Submissions_Review

Talks : 57
Posters : 23
Others : 2

The response has been overwhelming with quality proposals and rating by the
team was tough in some cases. We never had the concept of posters when we
started the review! Program team will get in touch with selected speakers
individually shortly on the way forward. We hope to have a conference with
quality content attracting community members across levels to have an
wonderful conference which will enrich their knowledge on participation on
Wikimedia projects.

Please contact conference at wikimedia dot in with [Programs] on the subject
line in case you have any queries.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books

2011-09-27 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 20:27, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 English wikipedia articles are listed in the Further reading sections of
 lessons in science text books of the recently implemented Samacheer Kalvi
 (uniform education) syllabus in Tamil Nadu. A few examples are : Standard 7
 science (lesson 11) Standard 8 science (lessons 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 11 and 13).
 The text books can be downloaded from
 http://www.textbooksonline.tn.nic.in/Std8.htm.

 (Hattip: Ta. wikipedian Theni Subramani who discovered this and posted in
 ta wiki VP)


Inspite of some error in printing leading to non-existant pages, this at
least gives visibility to each and every student of the state (Std 7 / 8). I
really wish there were some Tamil wiki articles included in Tamil edition
given that we have some nice articles on Biology,Maths etc.

Realistically speaking, when have school students read further reading. At
least i don't recollect me doing it :D

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Spamming India list with Conference Discussion -- Moderation notice

2011-09-28 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi,

Apologies to India list members on failing to act on spammers for sometime.
I have put members who violated the warnings [1][2] . People who have been
put on moderation are in bcc of this mail and list is available here for
anyone to search and find[3]. These members will be removed from moderation
post conference on requesting
wikimediaindia-l-owner@lists.wikimedia.orgthat they will abide by
notices by list admins on spamming etc. On a serious
note, let me work on some list guidelines on put them soon, I know this
again was pending on me and I thought all of us are mature doing without
one, but then its better to have one.

[1]
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/004482.html
[2]
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/004484.html
[3]
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/date.html#start

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WikiConference-India 2011] WCI 2011 : Scholarship

2011-09-28 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 00:10, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Wikimedians who have received scholarship please accept(reject) your
 scholarship by senting a mail to wikiconferencein...@gmail.com asap.
 So that we can work on the second round scholarship list.


This needs to be sent to recipients and not this list, since they are 2
different set with minimal union. Btw, use confere...@wikimedia.in sounds
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