Re: [WISPA] point to Multi-point

2010-04-21 Thread Frank Ombech
Thanks for the input. Rgds On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I would definitely use two ptp links.  411ah and xr5 boards.  20mhz channels will get you a solid 30 megs. If you want a full parts list let me know. On 4/21/10, Chris Gotstein

Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB?

2010-04-21 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Scott, Yes, the links will work great until you have a heavy rain. Talk to Travis about the 38GHz links he has running at several miles with great uptime. Great uptime because he's nearly running them in a vacuum environment...IMO! lol Unfortunately you and I do not enjoy such an RF

Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB?

2010-04-21 Thread Gino Villarini
Check Motorola PTP800 units Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:32 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Hammett
I know significantly more people on unemployment that view it as an alternative to an honest job as opposed to a supplement until they get a new job. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Ryan Spott

Re: [WISPA] Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Hammett
I've had one fail. I haven't had a problem with any of the others, though if you're saying they RMA them all, maybe I will... or at least look at flashing them with the correct firmware. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Hammett
I've used exclusively Seagate drives since WD and others dropped their warranties to 1 year. Only had 1 drive fail. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

2010-04-21 Thread Ryan Spott
Eh, stupid should hurt.. and it will. :) ryan On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I know significantly more people on unemployment that view it as an alternative to an honest job as opposed to a supplement until they get a new job. - Mike

Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

2010-04-21 Thread Glenn Kelley
I think we need the following: 1. A new political party - called the PPR - its close enough to NPR that they might actually support it (by name only) - PPR stands for Party of Personal Responsibility . 2. Unemployment Should begin with 6 months at the current rate and then knock off 5%

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Hammett
How can you be a system builder anymore? I use only top quality parts because there's not enough margin on the low quality ones to justify the support... but then Dell's $400 desktop will work just fine for many people for 5 years. The only market I've found for system builders are servers,

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Charles Hooper
Being a system builder does seem like it would be pretty tough these. Most of the shops around here have shifted from doing system builds to becoming Value-Added Resellers. Even with servers it seems best to go with a name brand, what with HP's 3 year warranties and all. And, let's face it,

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Steven Barnes
You are correct. It is tough. I am very rural and most of my large clients still like to have their hands held. That's how we make it. To be honest, 90% of our sales comes from the service department. When that Dell finally takes a crap and they can't get their data, and after they spend 2

[WISPA] gbics

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Goicoechea
Does anyone know a good supplier of Dlink DEM310GT Gbics at a good cost? (Dlink is back ordered) We need several asap. Thanks, Mike Goicoechea m...@cielosystems.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Indeed. Computer service is a great source of revenue. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Steven Barnes st...@pcswin.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List

[WISPA] Underwater Fiber info?

2010-04-21 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone has any idea on the permits and regulations governing underwater fiber optic cables? This wouldn't be between 2 different nations , just some short links between some islands that are part of US mainland Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

Re: [WISPA] Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread RickG
Well, it sounds like they have improved. I dont system build any more but every nerd I know that does hates Seagates. I do offer this up as support: http://www.testfreaks.com/internal-hard-drives/?sort=score I guess as they say, YMMV! On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] Underwater Fiber info?

2010-04-21 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
If it crosses a Navigable Waterway - the US Coast Guard will have some say as well Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box 6115 Falmouth, ME 04105 TEL: 207-781-5561 FAX: 615-704-8067 MOBILE: 207-831-5829 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net http://www.streamline-solutions.net

[WISPA] ooma phone service

2010-04-21 Thread Stuart Pierce
Has anyone ever heard of or used http://www.ooma.com ? Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join

Re: [WISPA] Underwater Fiber info?

2010-04-21 Thread Stuart Pierce
Culebra ? -- Original Message -- From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:36:33 -0400 Anyone has any idea on the permits and regulations governing underwater fiber optic cables?

Re: [WISPA] ooma phone service

2010-04-21 Thread Jerry Richardson
I have customer that has it. Nothing but a PITA. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ooma phone service Has anyone ever

Re: [WISPA] ooma phone service

2010-04-21 Thread Glenn Kelley
Ooma is a PITA x 1000 in short - it makes magic jack look like a billion dollar product and that is saying something since it is also a PITA On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: I have customer that has it. Nothing but a PITA. Jerry -Original Message- From:

[WISPA] Anyone serve West Palm area FL

2010-04-21 Thread Scott Carullo
Southern Blvd area just south of there exactly Hit me offlist - thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] Solar

2010-04-21 Thread Akinlolu Ajayi-Obe
I have a repeater with one microtik 411, two motorolla canopy and one 1amp 12v switch. I want to run it strictly on solar. I'm wondering if a 75watts solar panel with a 10amp charge controller will do. Thanks Akin Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

Re: [WISPA] Solar

2010-04-21 Thread Charles Hooper
The first to last post on this page does a pretty good job at showing the math on how to pick a battery and solar panel size: http://www.ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6249highlight=bullet+antennapage=2 Hope this helps! Regards, Charles Akinlolu Ajayi-Obe wrote: I have a repeater with one

Re: [WISPA] Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
I tried flashing with their recommended firmware, it was still a bust. Failed anyhow. If you RMA the ones that are still operating, use the error code that pretty much means you know it's gonna die. Really! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
Easy. There is a niche out here who are tired of junk. Businesses especially. We've honestly NEVER had a machine fail unless it was acted upon from the outside, such as power surge. We use all top shelf parts that have multi-year manufacturer's warranty and are here for face to face support.

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
We can easily hold others accountable if we use the retail components rather than the OEM. 3 years on the Intel processor, 3 on the motherboard, 5 years on the hard drive, etc. If a part fails, we swap it out and rma the bad one. But that very rarely happens anyhow. Bob- -Original

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
The computer repair shop is going the way of the Radio repair guy. That is if Microsoft ever decides to make a stable OS.. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steven Barnes Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Has anyone had a CPU go bad? I've never once seen this. I've never had RAM go bad either, though I have had some bad sticks DOA. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Charles Hooper
I've only seen a CPU go bad as a result of a failed CPU cooling fan. As for RAM, I've seen it go bad in a 10 year old PC. I usually stick with Crucial (Micron) brand. - Charles Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone had a CPU go bad? I've never once seen this. I've never had RAM go bad either,

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Steven Barnes
I have never had a bad Intel CPU, I used to use AMD and the Durons and Athlons would overheat and blow all the time. I have had several Dell's and a few HP's come in lately with bad RAM. All of it was some no name stuff. I only us Corsair or Kingston and have never had to RMA a single stick.

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
Only with AMD. I have a nice box of good used Intel processors salvaged from dead pc's. No good AMD. Some love AMD but I had enough of them years ago. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent:

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Glenn Kelley
Running a large Data Center I can say yes ... Every component is subject to failure. I have seen CPU's die - I have seen boards - Ram and the like as well. Funny - never had crucial ram doa or die ... in thousands of machines... Samsung ram - feels like its all doa On Apr 21, 2010, at

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
I went to all Crucial RAM quite a few years ago. They have a lifetime warranty and that in itself says much about the company. I have had to so a few RMA's with them though and it was all on the DDR2 when they were trying to try new things, I suppose, and the ball grid wasn't flowed correctly.

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
The best and most reliable hard drives I ever had were Quantum Bigfoot and Quantum fireball drives. But that was when I lived in a parallel universe. I was also rich, very good looking and my children were respectful and well behaved. Bob- -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Most RAM has a lifetime warranty. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:48 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
Ah, maybe the RAM you've dealt with. I tell ya, there is some really, really trash ram out there. The name brands, yes. Lifetime. I agree. However, there are hundreds of no-names out there for RAM. Nasty, nasty stuff. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Hammett
oh, I'm not saying the no-name lifetimes are worth a darn, just saying that a lifetime warranty doesn't mean anything if the product is produced cheap enough, the RMA process hard enough. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Nick Olsen
I love people that do this. Sure, spend less, in six months when it is toast, I'll be here to tell you I told you so Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, April

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Larry A Weidig
Bob: That is funny! Lived in that parallel universe myself :) I cannot recall one of those failing every either, in fact I suspect if I dig around I can find some still around here. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 -

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
I'm with ya. Make all the promises ya want but if you put up enough hoops for the customers to jump through you never have to make good. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
It's sad. Those quantums were the biggest piece of crap I ever had to deal with but the thing is, no matter how much aggravation they were, they still worked. And I know I have some of those darned Bigfoot drives in here. In the junk pile and they still work. Bob- -Original

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
Heck yeah, brother man! You could kill a person with that drive. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steven Barnes Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS:

[WISPA] Slow speed

2010-04-21 Thread Jeremie Chism
I love to go out and work for an hour troubleshooting a customer complaint about slow speed only to find out that their dell poweredge switch is bad. Funny thing is that it was letting a little traffic come throughsay 300k or so. Sent from my iPhone

Re: [WISPA] Slow speed

2010-04-21 Thread Steven McGehee
I'm sure you did this too, but anytime we have a complaint of speeds the first thing we do on site is completely bypass their network. Sure it takes them offline for just a few minutes while we verify the claim with a laptop straight into the wireless unit/PoE, but it takes the heat off of us.

Re: [WISPA] Slow speed

2010-04-21 Thread Jeremie Chism
They didn't want us to take them offline because of a project they were working on but yes we went from our unit on back until we found the problem. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Steven McGehee stev...@qx.net wrote: I'm sure you did this too, but anytime we have a

Re: [WISPA] Slow speed

2010-04-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
If they have a problem and insist its OUR equipment. I tell them I will bring my laptop out and plug DIRECTLY into the radio. If problem is not present I charge them $30 service call fee. They all sign an agreement that says our support stops at the end of the Ethernet cable. They are all on DHCP

[WISPA] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Jerry Richardson
Heads up to the East. Just had a NNW facing AP ice up on Mt Diablo - can't believe it.. There was enough ice buildup to drop over half the subs so it had to pile on quickly. Temperature is rising and the customers are coming back but that's some bizarre stuff for this area.

Re: [WISPA] Slow speed

2010-04-21 Thread Jeremie Chism
If they hadn't just installed last week, we have the same policy. Tried to give them the benefit of the doubt. For some reason if they are with ATT or Comcast they would never call them but switch to our service and suddenly if a computer stops working, that has something to do with our

Re: [WISPA] Slow speed

2010-04-21 Thread Ryan Ghering
We recently visited a customer whom complained about slow speeds, speed test to our local server showed a whooping 98k down and 70k up. This customer is on a 1 meg down 512k up plan. The customer insisted that they were doing nothing on the link. After about 2 hours of diagnostics we find out the

Re: [WISPA] Slow speed

2010-04-21 Thread Jon Roux
We use GoToAssist (made by the same people who make GoToMyPc) to get into the customers computer remotely and troubleshoot it that way. Most of the time we can figure it out without having to go to the customer house. Big time saver. Of course, there has to be at least enough bandwidth there

Re: [WISPA] Slow speed

2010-04-21 Thread Jeremie Chism
Tried that to before we went. Not enough to download the plugin. This is on a 5mb/5mb customer. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Jon Roux my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: We use GoToAssist (made by the same people who make GoToMyPc) to get into the customers computer remotely

Re: [WISPA] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Jack Unger
Our weather here in Los Angeles has been unseasonably cold all winter and spring. The current storm looks like it will become more severe as it travels east. Get ready... http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/ jack Jerry Richardson wrote: Heads up to the East. Just had a NNW

Re: [WISPA] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Jeremie Chism
Guess that is this global warming we have all been hearing about. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Our weather here in Los Angeles has been unseasonably cold all winter and spring. The current storm looks like it will become more severe

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Global warming. Melts the polar ice. Screws with the global climate. Ice is melting at the poles. That's a fact. It's melting because of a raise in temperature. That's obvious. What's causing it? My opinion is just the swing of solar rays that cycles every 70 years. On 4/21/10, Jeremie

Re: [WISPA] Slow speed

2010-04-21 Thread Mike
Ryan: Presently we don't meter, but we do limit connections to 20 per IP at any one time. Stops torrents running amuck. Also, I tell my customers we have engineered our network for bursty traffic. We want their web pages, XBox and email to load really fast, and they do; typically at 3 Mbps.

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Bret Clark
http://www.accuweather.com/video/78278083001/another-climate-model-sees-the-global-cooling.asp?channel=vblog_bastardi -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Wed 4/21/2010 6:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II]

Re: [WISPA] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Jack Unger
Hi Jeremie, I posted the information feeling that it could be useful to WISPs further east, nothing more. I don't think it's appropriate to turn this thread into what could be a political argument. I doubt that was your intent either but there are others here who may have difficulty

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Mike
Or because we are rapidly arriving at a galactic alignment; a cyclical happening is upon us. On the winter equinox in 2012 we will be aligned with the disk which is the Milky Way, and which our solar system is a part. We will be half way through our 26,000 year galactic journey. Every type of

Re: [WISPA] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Jeremie Chism
Just making a joke to lighten the day. Politics has it's own place. I try as much as possible to stay out of that v Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Hi Jeremie, I posted the information feeling that it could be useful to WISPs further

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Steven McGehee
Still wouldn't take down a Dragonwave ;-) .. just kidding. On 4/21/2010 18:48, Mike wrote: Or because we are rapidly arriving at a galactic alignment; a cyclical happening is upon us. On the winter equinox in 2012 we will be aligned with the disk which is the Milky Way, and which our solar

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Tom Sharples
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west Or because we are

Re: [WISPA] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Forbes Mercy
That is not global warming, its El' Nino, happens every 7 years or so here's the cycle for the US. Normal year/pre el' nino - normal snow in the NW, dry in SW and SE, fairly strong hurricane season, weaker tornado season el' nino - much less snow in NW, wet snowy winters in SW and SE, weak

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread RickG
It appears to have grown recently: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ This is what they'll write in the future about global warming: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Global warming.  Melts the polar ice.

Re: [WISPA] Slow speed

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
We just shoot the customer and cover up the evidence. Oh, wait.. that was just a dream I had. Nevermind. Sorry. Bob- - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slow

Re: [WISPA] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
They suck, we suck, you suck, I suck now back to work. - Original Message - From: Jack Unger To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west Hi Jeremie, I posted the information

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
But will I be able to find my car keys? - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west Or because we are rapidly arriving

[WISPA] An Old Woman

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
An old woman yelled at me tonight. It's Ten O'clock, it's time to come down! I work 24 hours a day. Old woman pissed me of. Had to share. Almost took my anenna home with m. WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Slow speed

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Hammett
I would have checked the interface utilization. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Bizarre *Cold* front coming from the west

2010-04-21 Thread Josh Luthman
The real question is...does it blend? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Robert West

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Robert West
I still have a Conner 30meg drive that still works. From 1889. What use it has, I just dunno. - Original Message - From: Steven Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Scottie Arnett
1889. That's a damn good hard drive. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:58:59 -0400 I still have a Conner 30meg drive that still works.

Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives

2010-04-21 Thread Jerry Richardson
Runs on coal powered steam -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives 1889.