Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT: punching holes in stainless steel enclosures

2016-06-19 Thread George Rogato
Do you have a url? On 6/19/2016 3:03 PM, T Maylone wrote: tractor supply 36 x 18 x 18 $219 all depends on purpose and what you call reasonable /Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID/ Adair Winter wrote: http://www.amprod.us/t-minifort_enclosures.aspx On

Re: [WISPA] Software for network monitoring

2015-01-09 Thread George Rogato
I use Nagios for up, down, unreachables. It has a plug in for mozilla firefox that sits in the bottom add on bar which shows you up, down, unreachables and more. It's customizable. On 1/9/2015 2:11 PM, Fabrizio Fiore Donati wrote: Hi all we have a network of about 200 wireless pop, each pop

Re: [WISPA] test

2012-11-12 Thread George Rogato
Patrick, Your back with Alvarion, is this new? George On 11/6/2012 2:03 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: test This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

2012-08-10 Thread George Rogato
it to go low? On Aug 10, 2012, at 0:19, George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net mailto:wi...@oregonfast.net wrote: After hours had a low of $6.90 http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/ubnt/after-hours There was a lot of transactions. On 8/9/2012 7:05 PM, Brad Belton wrote

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

2012-08-09 Thread George Rogato
After hours had a low of $6.90 http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/ubnt/after-hours There was a lot of transactions. On 8/9/2012 7:05 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Agreed. I almost hit that $9ish range a

Re: [WISPA] Wind Safety regulations for towers

2011-05-25 Thread George Rogato
On 5/24/2011 3:38 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: I caught one guy hanging upside down on a cranes heavy ball 300 ft up without safety straps With OSHA on-site (but not looking thank God). Fired him over the radio. Got a picture of that?

Re: [WISPA] BBS'n

2009-08-24 Thread George Rogato
When we took over the old Windows to Infinity BBS - ISP it was running Excalibur. My earliest achievement that made me so proud, was when we took the last Excalibur customer off the BBS and moved them over to our portmasters and killed that BBS.

Re: [WISPA] Gettin sick of Microtik

2009-08-24 Thread George Rogato
How in gods name do you guys stay in business if you still haven't found a stable platform that you know how to configure. I'm just amazed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Looking for antenna/enclosure - help

2009-07-31 Thread George Rogato
I've seen those posted on one of these lists. Exactly the same as trango. From the same manufacturer. I think they are in Israel. Can't remember the url or company, but I'm thinking it was an overseas wireless distributor that had them. Anyways, hope that helps. George Scott Carullo wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Verify Link Analysis

2009-07-17 Thread George Rogato
Scott Reed wrote: Does anyone have a easy, inexpensive way to test a link before a tower is built? RadioMobile link analysis says I can get backhaul to the potential location, but in my area trees are always a challenge. I would like to test it now, while the trees are full, before I

Re: [WISPA] Verify Link Analysis

2009-07-17 Thread George Rogato
Balloon --Original Message-- From: George Rogato Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verify Link Analysis Sent: Jul 17, 2009 09:30 Scott Reed wrote: Does anyone have a easy, inexpensive way to test a link

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Performance

2009-07-01 Thread George Rogato
Josh Luthman wrote: So you can use 10/5 mhz channels with But not.. StarOS WARP Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Actually you can do 5 and 10 MHz channels with star and wraps, but not V2, only V3 . V3 is the

Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread George Rogato
How come Google, Yahoo, and Live.com don't get black listed. I'm pretty sure 1 million times more spam comes out of those domains than any small independent isp's ... Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, What are you guys doing for email these days? I LOVE my setup for it's reliability,

Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread George Rogato
I almost feel the same way too. But a funny thing is, some of our customers like our email. It never has virus, and we have a spam filter provider that sends a daily quarantine report and those emails never make it to my server. So for the most part, everything is great till we get blacklisted.

Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread George Rogato
Wonder how much it is. Says it's based on qty of email addresses. RickG wrote: Cost? On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Pat O'Connorp...@inlandnet.com wrote: We're switching to this over this weekend. http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:

[WISPA] Google Voice

2009-06-19 Thread George Rogato
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/061809-google-voice.html?source=NWWNLE_nlt_daily_am_2009-06-19 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] Magic Jack

2009-06-19 Thread George Rogato
, 2009 at 10:57 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: George Rogato wrote: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/061809-google-voice.html Between this (Google acquiring a million phone numbers), and their announcement a few days ago about their plans to support number portability, it's almost

Re: [WISPA] Magic Jack

2009-06-19 Thread George Rogato
with the largest competitive local exchange carrier (CLEC) network in the U.S. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* George Rogato wrote: Who owns Magic Jack? Josh Luthman wrote: Summary

Re: [WISPA] Magic Jack

2009-06-19 Thread George Rogato
... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:18 AM, George Rogato wi

Re: [WISPA] Magic Jack

2009-06-19 Thread George Rogato
!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* George Rogato wrote: Are they a publicly traded company? Martha Huizenga wrote: Check out the video on their web site: http://www.magicjack.com/2/?mid=307001a=55959s= Looks like the inventor still owns it? Dan Borislow is also the founder

Re: [WISPA] Legal Entity - which type? Was: Quesiton on Funding /Financing / Capital Availability

2009-06-03 Thread George Rogato
Unless you actually make a decent salary. When your a sole proprietor you have to pay the self employment tax. Self employment tax is matching social security payments. You pay both the individual ss tax and as well as the employers contribution which comes to about double. If you were

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-06-03 Thread George Rogato
Yeah, my accountant told me a story about one of his un named clients who was previously part of a corp . Turns out there was a lawsuit against a corporation that had filed for bk protection a couple years earlier. The person filing the lawsuit wanted to see the corporate minutes for the now

Re: [WISPA] Legal Entity - which type? Was: Quesiton onFunding /Financing / Capital Availability

2009-06-03 Thread George Rogato
Message - From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Legal Entity - which type? Was: Quesiton on Funding /Financing / Capital Availability Unless you actually make a decent salary. When

Re: [WISPA] DVR experience

2009-06-02 Thread George Rogato
wrote: I am using Mobotix for cameras. The DVR software is free. Or the cams can perform the DVR function. Hit me offlist and I can give you a link to 2 I just put up out of 22 for a small city. ryan On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:16 PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone working with dvr's

Re: [WISPA] DVR experience

2009-06-02 Thread George Rogato
PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone working with dvr's and cameras that they really like? I'm looking for advice on what is good and what is not. Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] DVR experience

2009-06-02 Thread George Rogato
of 22 for a small city. ryan On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:16 PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone working with dvr's and cameras that they really like? I'm looking for advice on what is good and what is not. Thanks

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling

2009-05-28 Thread George Rogato
Thats a good comparison Tom. Couple things I should note, which I thought about after I posted. I live in the Pac North West, not the South West, Arizona Nevada or Texas. I'm not sure blue cat 5 would stand up in outdoor situations there when it is exposed to the hellacious sunlight there. And

Re: [WISPA] clues for vendors

2009-05-27 Thread George Rogato
Yeppers, it is truly an indication of the vendors lack of respect for our intelligence that makes a vendor assume we are clueless enough to buy their un priced pitch. John Bates wrote: You are definitely not alone. Sometimes it makes sense to partner with a vendor, whether it's preferred

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling

2009-05-27 Thread George Rogato
My experience living in the rainy pacific northwest is, regular old blue or grey cat 5 cable has lasted all the 10 years I've been doing this. I use it on all my houses and buildings. White cat 5 does not work outdoors and deteriorates quickly. Should be no surprise. Up a tower I use an a

[WISPA] Cell phone with wifi?

2009-05-26 Thread George Rogato
Is there a cell phone that can connect to someones wifi ap and still make phone calls or recieve data when not in range of the cell service? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Cell phone with wifi?

2009-05-26 Thread George Rogato
Jonathan Schmidt wrote: I have had a series of Nokia phones will use Wi-Fi thru its built-in SIP client directly to my office Asterisk and have been doing that for several years. The E71 I have now is FAR superior to the earlier models in terms of Wi-Fi sensitivity. I use it in conferences

Re: [WISPA] Cell phone with wifi?

2009-05-26 Thread George Rogato
Josh Luthman wrote: If you have Asterisk you just opened up nearly any Wifi phone to your system. SIP is so universal... Yeah, I have not been keeping up with cell phones. My own is 5years old...doesn't even have a camera or display caller id on the outside of the phone ;( A client was

Re: [WISPA] Cell phone with wifi?

2009-05-26 Thread George Rogato
at specific angle and do some magic tricks at the same times. But with the a hots...@home phone from T-Mobile I have now perfect coverage at home. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:28:25

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread George Rogato
In Oregon the filing costs is nothing to incorporate. Of course a lawyer will charge what they will to fill out the forms. One thing the sole proprietor is missing out on not being an s or c corp is the tax benefit associated with social security. Of course thee is more work to be a corporation,

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-22 Thread George Rogato
Travis Johnson wrote: but we are putting the cash flow money into other things... like real estate, that is dirt cheap right now... ;) Thats what we did in Novemeber. Got a 500k property for about 325k . And got the owner to carry 90% @ 6% on an 8 year term. Not much interest to pay, just a

Re: [WISPA] Congressman Wants to Ban Download Caps

2009-05-21 Thread George Rogato
For sure congress doesn't have much of a clue. But the FCC understands very well. Scottie Arnett wrote: I don't want to seem like a chronic complainer as I usually do on the WISPA listbut this has been my SPEW all along for years! The FCC and Washington have NO Intelligible IDEA about

Re: [WISPA] Customers are great

2009-05-20 Thread George Rogato
Glad you said MOST, my experience over the years, is there is a Zillion Business People, but not that many that stay in business for very long. They are the 92% crowd. Rick Kunze wrote: On 5/20/2009 2:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Even if that figure was pulled from thin air it is so easily

Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines

2009-05-18 Thread George Rogato
Steve Barnes wrote: I just found that MoNowall is a FreeBSD Firewall. Good luck with that. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service FreeBSD is well supported and quite popular. We use BSD for quite a bit of stuff. Mainly servers, but also routers.

Re: [WISPA] Fiber/Copper Combo Wire

2009-05-09 Thread George Rogato
Or a person could buy a set of up down transformers to increase the voltage going up the tower to avoid voltage drop. Of course, running 110 up to the top is probably easier. Jack Unger wrote: You have the best solution - regulating at the top. Otherwise, as you state, the voltage at the top

Re: [WISPA] OT, IE is allowing strange things

2009-05-08 Thread George Rogato
Gary Garrett wrote: Its your IP address. The same way the Porno ads show you all those fantastic looking women in Naples Idaho. Hell I have lived here 35 years and if even one of them really lived here I would have hit on them long ago!!! That was funny Gary

Re: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs

2009-05-05 Thread George Rogato
to pay up. Otherwise they may be gone by the time business opens and you will never see any money. Bob Moldashel wrote: George Rogato wrote: Weeds out the broke dead beat cheap skates. Careful George. I called a customer a loser and got tarred and feathered . :-) Thats

Re: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs

2009-05-04 Thread George Rogato
We work with people too. But I don't go visit them. I have the shop do the calling, Only thing I do is go get my stuff back. Only one time did anyone ever give me the trespassing story and that was a guy who was hoping to hold it ransom for some kind of a refund. It's a a gray area Been

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread George Rogato
Agreed, I do not think it is possible to have three sectors on a tower that don't see each other. Unless of course it's on a large water tank and the water tank is blocking the signals. There should not be a problem with sectors that see or hear each other, as long as the sectors are not

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread George Rogato
Tom DeReggi wrote: Good point but. the problem went away when the mcpi cards each had their own SBC/Case, this would infer card to card or pigtail to pigtail interference, since in all cases the dummy load was outside the cases, from what it sounds like. I guess that should be

Re: [WISPA] affordable 2.4 GHz repeaters

2009-04-25 Thread George Rogato
No body has mentioned Star-Os, or Lucaya. Here's a link: http://www.staros.com/store/datasheets/Au400.pdf The 2 ports are about 200.00 and the 4 ports are about 400.00 And they are fcc certified units. Jerry Richardson wrote: EOC-3220's seem to work pretty well for us. Went to the

Re: [WISPA] router to load balance 2 wan connections

2009-04-23 Thread George Rogato
Not sure about load balancing, as for policy routing, thats easy. We do that with a bsd box. I would assume all the routers, imagestream, MT, Star, Cisco, etc etc. can handle various wans with policy routing. We just haven't done our router upgrade yet and handle ours on an older bsd box.

Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors

2009-04-23 Thread George Rogato
Butch Evans wrote: This thread has degraded WAY beyond useful. Maybe for you Butch, but I am thinking this was a very useful and informative thread and I hate to see someone stifled because of one mans disdain. We should all be able to discuss and hash things out without worrying we are

Re: [WISPA] fiber termination

2009-04-23 Thread George Rogato
We just terminated some fiber we put in. Used hot melt and hand polished the the fiber. It took no more than an hour to do 6 strands on each end. Maube 1 1/2 hour. Not sure which connectors you are using, but those can be expensive as well. I think we must have paid about 15.00 per connctor.

Re: [WISPA] fiber termination

2009-04-23 Thread George Rogato
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tnh0V81pLkNR=1 Takes the voodoo black magic away from fiber termination. So easy a caveman can do it. George George Rogato wrote: We just terminated some fiber we put in. Used hot melt and hand polished the the fiber. It took no more than an hour to do 6

Re: [WISPA] Clearwire being sued for poor service, ETFs

2009-04-23 Thread George Rogato
I don't think this hurts anyone. Nobody hardly knows about this and there is lots of lawsuites. One of my customers has been sued twice now because she owns an elder care facility that caters to alzhiemers and dimensia folks who's family can no longer care for them. Both suites are My Mother

Re: [WISPA] [Board] FW: Tranzeo Cleaning out the Cupboards Sale

2009-04-20 Thread George Rogato
Yeah, and I recall, when asked why Tranzeo didn't want to help support wisps at wispa, they pretty much laughed and said they couldn't see any reason to support us. George John Scrivner wrote: As far as I am concerned this is spam. Tranzeo is NOT a paid vendor member of WISPA and as such

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-19 Thread George Rogato
I was thinking the opposite Kurt, most of the wisps here are quite succcesful. Seriously, those who cry poor mouth, are the exception. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Yeah but most Wisps operators are some of the financially worst off people I have ever met. I agree on not making a bunch of small

Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE

2009-04-10 Thread George Rogato
http://nanog.org/mailinglist/ Gino Villarini wrote: Matt Where could one subscribe to such a list? NaNog List Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread George Rogato
Question that comes to mind, What size processor or machine is needed to do 10GigE's? Mike Hammett wrote: Any recommendations for routers that have multiple 10 GigE interfaces? I believe the PowerRouter can only do 3 and I'm looking for at least 4, even up to 8 or 10. I didn't see

Re: [WISPA] FW: 10 GigE

2009-04-09 Thread George Rogato
So what price range are we talking for such an animal? Jeff Broadwick wrote: I don't think this went out to the list: Hey Tom. We just pushed over 7 Gbps full duplex over 18 GigE ports in the lab, so we're fast approaching that 10 GigE mark. With small packets, the same system forwarded

Re: [WISPA] whats your longest uptime?

2009-04-08 Thread George Rogato
Here's a guy that has a 1000 day up time. http://forums.star-os.com/showpost.php?p=66695postcount=1 Travis Johnson wrote: Tower mounted AP = 500+ days. Customer prem switch = 5+ years. Tower router = 321 days Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Whats your longest recorded

Re: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming...

2009-04-06 Thread George Rogato
Tom DeReggi wrote: Next thing you know, in real time, every time you pass a traffic light, they'll also be checking instant verification on or License Plate Scanners http://www.itemlive.com/articles/2009/02/09/news/news01.txt

Re: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth

2009-03-29 Thread George Rogato
I would be looking at SBA loans. I understand that SBA is being revamped to 90% loan guarantee and other fees being wiped. And don't forget there is the stimulus and wispa has a grant and legislative committee. Hope this is helpful. George sa...@michianawireless.com wrote: With this in

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Full Duplex

2009-03-28 Thread George Rogato
So Ubiquiti may be an answer then. Assuming they do have their cards certified. lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: 4.9 GHz is covered by Part 90 and does not need to be a certified system only the emitter needs to be certfied. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original

[WISPA] spoiled generation

2009-03-26 Thread George Rogato
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoGYx35ypus WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] spoiled generation

2009-03-26 Thread George Rogato
Mark Nash wrote: Yes, the more more more free free free generation. Guess you hit the nail on the head, the me generation is being replaced by the free generation WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Full Duplex

2009-03-25 Thread George Rogato
Doesn't Ubiquiti have a certified 4.9 radio? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.

2009-03-23 Thread George Rogato
Jason Hensley wrote: easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too) Jason Do you use Wombat for dialup or wireless subs? I'm curious because I was going to add wombat a few years ago but held off, Lately I was considering checking out wombat

Re: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth

2009-03-22 Thread George Rogato
It's true that it is a big expense and it's not an easy task. But, we just got a franchise agreement from our city for fiber. The way they calculate it is either on a per foot basis, or a percentage of revenues across the fiber. Naturally we did the percentage, but another company that brought

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-21 Thread George Rogato
Thats what I see happening, older customers that never even knew how to find youtube , never mind understnd or use P2P, are now doing the netflix and dish on demand. I'm seeing a growing number of people using those products now. Kinda scary in some ways. George Mike Hammett wrote: Once your

Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.

2009-03-21 Thread George Rogato
Well you either use freeside at no cost but you pay for the programming, someone on this list is an expert freeside programmer by the way, or you use Platypus which is not free but needs less programing. There are others like Platypus, billmax rodolphi etc. You may want to search the archives.

Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.

2009-03-21 Thread George Rogato
Here's a thought, been using Platypus for years, supports my isp very well. I'm happy. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Grin. I know that this has come up from time to time. I'm after current info and thoughts. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: George Rogato wi

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-21 Thread George Rogato
to be pointed at getting big fiber pipes to the area or region rather than getting fiber to the home. RickG wrote: George, Sounds great and mus be nice but there are no facilities in the boondocks! -RickG On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:15 PM, George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.netwrote

Re: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth

2009-03-21 Thread George Rogato
Agreed we have a tad more than a 1000 wireless subs and we hit our cap nightly @ 30megs. And I try like hell to avoid the power users. J. Vogel wrote: Charles, I would love to live in the world you describe here. :) Bandwidth cost dwarfs credit card processing cost where I live. It

Re: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth

2009-03-21 Thread George Rogato
What you need Rick, is one of these bad boys: http://www.directionaldrills.com/imageview.php?product=251 Then all you have to do is drill your way past the incumbant. (this is supposed to be humorous) RickG wrote: Co$t! 35 miles as a crow flys to the nearest fiber facility. Worse yet, only

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-20 Thread George Rogato
Kinda high If you are lucky and you have access to fiber consider this Cogent, if you buy a GigE port and commit to 200 megs, you can have it for $5.00 per meg, or minimum of $1,000.00 per month and that comes with a whopping 200 megs, if you need to exceed 200 megs, it's just $5.00 per meg.

Re: [WISPA] Aerial / Self-Support Cat5

2009-03-20 Thread George Rogato
Pretty good catalog Mark Has some great aerial illustrations on proper hardware. This week we hung out aerial fiber from our noc to the tank. It was a 550' span 275' across a big creek. We used figure 8 fiber with lashes and as well as a couple cable messenger clamps. I had to use a 12' surf

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-20 Thread George Rogato
to know is where to find the ratings of who is the best, I used to hear Sprint was quality, but that was just a few opinions. Travis Johnson wrote: I have a quote from Level3 for $12.50 per meg and it's 10x the bandwidth that Cogent is... ;) Travis Microserv George Rogato

Re: [WISPA] Aerial / Self-Support Cat5

2009-03-19 Thread George Rogato
http://www.hyperline.com/catalog/cable/ftp4_s_sw_out.shtml Scott Reed wrote: Yes that is the correct terminology. I have not looked for that recently. In the several instances we have needed that, I have purchased steel aircraft cable and strung it as the messenger. Then we have loosely

Re: [WISPA] Aerial / Self-Support Cat5

2009-03-19 Thread George Rogato
warranty, satisfaction guaranteed Call Us Today At (866) 650-3282 (DATA) George Rogato wrote: http://www.hyperline.com/catalog/cable/ftp4_s_sw_out.shtml Scott Reed wrote: Yes that is the correct terminology. I have not looked for that recently. In the several instances we have needed that, I

Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

2009-03-19 Thread George Rogato
Jeff Booher wrote: Mike, This once again is not an apples to apples argument but rather apples to rutabega. Still fruit, but very different fruit :) I thought a rutabega was a vegitable. WISPA Wants

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread George Rogato
made out to Yours Truly instead! Then we're all benefiting and can stimulate the economy as we each see fit. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:23 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread George Rogato
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools Liberalism is a broad class of political philosophies that considers individual liberty and equality to be the most important political goals.[1

Re: [WISPA] Easy Ethernet up the tower

2009-03-10 Thread George Rogato
Just noticed Adam, your in Great Barrington, Very nice area. I'm from the other side of Mass myself. I remember those thunder storms. Adam Goodman wrote: Is there anyone doing this in a frequent lightning area? We are in Massachusetts and last summer we had a %^#^% of a time keeping up. We did

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-10 Thread George Rogato
Not sure Brad. I was doing some math the other day. $1 Trillion divided by the US population of 303,824,640= $3291.37 USD per person. Question is, what is a household? Average household size. 2.59 http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFFacts ( Has 2007 population statistics) Answer:

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-10 Thread George Rogato
I heard from my far right wing buddy, that the plan is to get to $15 Trillion by the time they are all done. Seriously. For the record, I am not sure if anyone else has noticed, but I have yet to actually meet anyone, anyone from the far left to the far right, and we have plenty of both

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-10 Thread George Rogato
to Yours Truly instead! Then we're all benefiting and can stimulate the economy as we each see fit. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:23 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-10 Thread George Rogato
Don't worry Chuck, your not alone. I've resigned myself to it's interesting conversation and no matter what I or most think, it doesn't matter anyways. Chuck Bartosch wrote: On Mar 10, 2009, at 11:23 PM, George Rogato wrote: I heard from my far right wing buddy, that the plan is to get

Re: [WISPA] radio mobile

2009-03-08 Thread George Rogato
My experience with antenna patterns has been that they are not accurate in all distances. It's either that or I don't understand them. To give you a couple examples. I have a 900MHz yagi, that has a miraculous connection @ 90* of the center 1 mile out. I was surprised that I even got a signal

Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young

2009-03-06 Thread George Rogato
List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young Don't they still make plates with just a 1/4 hole in it. No need to drill. George Rogato wrote: I

Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS:HyperlinkCoax Jumpers

2009-03-06 Thread George Rogato
I don't know, as I understand it Mark was talking about mountain top with extreme elements. I live on the Oregon Coast, Oregon = lots of rain, the coast, lots of wind and rain. I have been taping for 10 years and must have 2,000 radios hung at least in all that time, and quality rubber tape

Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers

2009-03-05 Thread George Rogato
for n male to n male, we build our own. Mark Nash wrote: We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas prior to that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 jumpers from Hyperlink. Anyone else have a problem? Any recommendations on best source

Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young

2009-03-05 Thread George Rogato
I was trying to drill a hole into a blank wall plate. All of the sudden, it shattered into about 10 pieces. That happens a lot with a typical bakerlite type wall plate. Next time you buy blank plates, try to find the lexan flexible ones. Everyone makes them, they are rubber like and when you

Re: [WISPA] The good college try

2009-03-05 Thread George Rogato
Brian It's bits for transfer and bytes for file sizes. Lots of people get that mixed up. Hope that helps George Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I wear that hat. Jack of all trades, master of none Today, I drove by rental house down the road and saw dish tv being installed. I turned around to

Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers

2009-03-05 Thread George Rogato
D. Ryan Spott wrote: My understanding is the Vinyl tape is more solar resistant than the black rubber... ryan Not sure about this. I use rubber and sometimes we put vinyl tape as a 2nd layer. But I have never seen the rubber tape fail, except, the cheap junk you get in a true value

Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young

2009-03-05 Thread George Rogato
I had a partner years ago was a computer guy. We opened a new store in another city and he wanted to have a hole cut in the wall for a big window type deal between the retail end and the tech desk. I told him to wait till I cam up to do some other work. Instead he took one of my small trim

Re: [WISPA] Friday History Humor

2009-02-28 Thread George Rogato
Wish I was there Rick. Your a very funny guy. RickG wrote: Yesterday I was buying 2 large bags of Purina dog chow at Wal-Mart, for my dogs Winston, Chief, Gus, and Maximus. I was about to check out when a woman behind me asked if I had a dog. What did she think, that I had an elephant?

Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint owns the NTIA

2009-02-18 Thread George Rogato
I was going to suggest that clear wire would be the biggest winner in this stimulus package. But I didn't want to throw a wet towel at anyone. We still have to take a shot at it and get something. John Scrivner wrote: Does anyone know the stock symbol for the company that makes KY Jelly? I

Re: [WISPA] 900 CPE

2009-02-17 Thread George Rogato
And you may want to do yourself a favor and try to not use an omni. Forbes Mercy wrote: I love the Nano's for 2.4 but they don't come in 900MHZ, I have a small town that loves trees and while I service most of them with 2.4 we have to turn a lot of them down for trees. I have a third slot

[WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?

2009-02-13 Thread George Rogato
Charter is set to file bankruptcy protection on or before April 1 as part of a financial restructuring to reduce its debt by $8bn. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/245062c2-f93d-11dd-90c1-77b07658.html?referrer_id=yahoofinanceft_ref=yahoo1segid=03058nclick_check=1

[WISPA] E-zy.net

2009-02-09 Thread George Rogato
Hello Dimitri Congradts to you and your partners on developing a product that wisps can use to their advantage. I don't think we have seen an introduction of you and your compay on the wispa lists. Why don't you take this time to introduce yourself, and your company and products to the list.

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-07 Thread George Rogato
Jerry There is a lot of products out there now. Quite a few are members of wispa and I don't want to give a more favorable endorsement of one of the other. I see a lot of wisps happy with the products they use and thats a great thing. I think there is no better time as up till now for choices

Re: [WISPA] Point to point links, NLOS

2009-02-05 Thread George Rogato
I do a lot of 2.4 through trees. Not a forest of trees, but tree blockage just the same. Easily 3 or 4 megs. Like Travis says OFDM is amazing. How far is your path and how much tree blockage do you have? Josh Luthman wrote: To my knowledge, the only thing that can be used for NLOS is 900 MHz.

Re: [WISPA] Point to point links, NLOS

2009-02-05 Thread George Rogato
are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:34 PM, George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net wrote: I do a lot of 2.4 through trees. Not a forest of trees, but tree blockage just the same. Easily 3 or 4 megs. Like Travis says OFDM is amazing. How far is your path

Re: [WISPA] Point to point links, NLOS

2009-02-05 Thread George Rogato
Eje Gustafsson wrote: Yes sometimes you can be surprised what you can get. I have a superrootenna as we joke about it installed. It's a 14dB semi line of sight You would be surprised at how many superrootena ap's I have. I buy lmr 240 and the little connectors and remote them off 4 port

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