Re: [WISPA] where is Meraki a good fit?

2010-12-02 Thread Bob Moldashel
My experience with Meraki is they come in and run backhaul links on 40 Mhz. channels regardless of what bandwidth is going out the other end. You could have 1 workstation and they run 40 MHz. channels. They are not a frequency efficient company when they pollute spectrum the way they do. Not

Re: [WISPA] Advice on PTP link over water?

2010-12-02 Thread Christopher Hair
We use 5.8Ghz PTP PTMP and 900Mhz PTMP to reach customers on the other side of a lake about 2.2 miles wide. AP side is on a 40ft pole mounted at the edge of the lake shore. SM's are approx. 25 feet above the water on the other side. This site has been running now for about 18 months without any

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbing rulesatanamazingheight...

2010-12-02 Thread Cameron Crum
And I like how the brilliant people who made the video don't even know it's a guyed tower not a guided tower (near the beginning where they are comparing it against the Sears and Eiffel Towers). Where are they guiding it? Cameron On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Jonathan Schmidt

[WISPA] Quick question

2010-12-02 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
Hello. Just a quick stupid question: If I have two omni antennas both transmitting at 2.4GHz but, one with 10MHz channel width and the other with normal 20MHz width; would they interfere with each other? WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Quick question

2010-12-02 Thread Cameron Crum
What channels? On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote: Hello. Just a quick stupid question: If I have two omni antennas both transmitting at 2.4GHz but, one with 10MHz channel width and the other with normal 20MHz width; would they

Re: [WISPA] Quick question

2010-12-02 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
I guess both on different channels: 20mhz on channel 1 and the other on channel 9. On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 08:44 -0600, Cameron Crum wrote: What channels? On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote: Hello. Just a

Re: [WISPA] Quick question

2010-12-02 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
Also, both antennas might be installed on the same tower next to each other. On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 10:50 -0400, Optimum Wireless Services wrote: I guess both on different channels: 20mhz on channel 1 and the other on channel 9. On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 08:44 -0600, Cameron Crum wrote: What

Re: [WISPA] Quick question

2010-12-02 Thread Cameron Kilton
Why do that next to each other, I don't see the point of two omni's next to each other and 10mhz and 20 mhz, why not sectors? Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 12/2/2010 9:57 AM, Optimum Wireless

Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-12-02 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
Marlon. That's exactly how things are in our network. Speedtest look good but, once the client goes to Facebook and Hotmail things just don't work well. Any solution or suggestions? On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 11:22 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Oh yeah, we'd run speed tests and they'd look

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbing rulesatanamazingheight...

2010-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Up? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/2/2010 8:38 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: And I like how the brilliant people who made the video don't even know it's a guyed tower not a guided tower (near the beginning where they are comparing it against the

Re: [WISPA] Quick question

2010-12-02 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
We have 4 sector antennas on a couple of our towers but, they're getting too much noise and interference from all over the area. I'm wanted to install a bullet on each tower at 10Mhz so, I can transfer many of our ns2 to it. I can't do it on the panels because we have older equipment that don't

Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-12-02 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Sounds like a MTU issue on the network. You may want to check things by doing IP pings with specific packet size to determine this. (best to google for IP MTU issues, for more info). Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 12/2/2010 10:21 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote: Marlon.

Re: [WISPA] Quick question

2010-12-02 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Are you thinking about putting the additional Omni/Bullet as a temp solution to decommission the older radio/sector to some newer radio / sectors ? You will have to try it.. you might be able to do that If you are thinking of this as a long term solution... then keep in mind Omni

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbing rulesatanamazingheight...

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
No such thing as the Sears Tower. It is Willis Tower now ;) On Dec 2, 2010 9:38 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: And I like how the brilliant people who made the video don't even know it's a guyed tower not a guided tower (near the beginning where they are comparing it against the

Re: [WISPA] Quick question

2010-12-02 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
I'm thinking of putting the additional Omni to try to ease things. If things work out well, then I'll just install other panels on 10mhz and any new install would be on 10mhz. Also, keep those old equipment on the 20mhz panels since we don't have the funds to replace them. Don't know if having 4

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbing rulesatanamazingheight...

2010-12-02 Thread Optimum Wireless Services
Everytime I see that video, my knees shake. On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 10:52 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: No such thing as the Sears Tower. It is Willis Tower now ;) On Dec 2, 2010 9:38 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: And I like how the brilliant people who made the video don't even

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbingrulesatanamazingheight...

2010-12-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
That's just flippin' nuts! My hands got all sweaty just watching! Aren't you supposed to be tied off at all times during a tower climb? Regards, Jeff ImageStream Sales Manager 800-813-5123 x106 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbingrulesatanamazingheight...

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
At all times, 100%, above 6 feet. No exceptions. On Dec 2, 2010 11:14 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net wrote: That's just flippin' nuts! My hands got all sweaty just watching! Aren't you supposed to be tied off at all times during a tower climb? Regards, Jeff ImageStream

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the towerclimbingrulesatanamazingheight...

2010-12-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Does anyone ever think of wearing a parachute as a last resort? I'm sure it's a silly question, but base jumpers would do it. Regards, Jeff ImageStream Sales Manager 800-813-5123 x106 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the towerclimbingrulesatanamazingheight...

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Too many videos watching people get caught in the tower features (antennas, ladder rungs, etc). Plus it is a lot of weight that is unnecessary when things are done right. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Shane MacDonald
Has any of you ever tired Powercode as a backend systems? Does anyone have experience with it compared to Platypus? We have a number of customers ranging between the 300 to 700 clients. I am trying to find a solution I maybe able to recommend them. Billing is an important piece but it also

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
To do everything at once, your options are Powercode and Azotel. Bits and pieces will require an expert on site (Freeside, Platypus, etc). Platypus is not a back end system so it doesn't compare to Powercode. Platypus only bills, but has some plugins to work with some things here and there. I

[WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbing rulesat an amazingheight...

2010-12-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: n4zkf towert...@n4zkf.com To: towert...@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbing rulesat an amazingheight... Horse Hockey! The safer a situation seems to be breeds complacency,

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the towerclimbingrulesatanamazingheight...

2010-12-02 Thread Robert West
Just buy an anti-gravity belt. Solved. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Jason Hensley
Platypus 7 will be out in January and supposedly is going to include some of the things that have been missing. I know that Wombat (the help desk system) will now be built into it as opposed to being an add-on component. They are also touting improved services and features specifically for

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Nash
Man... Don't get me started on PowerCode today. I just tried calling their sales line. 920-351-1010. Go ahead, call it. I dare you. If I had a phone system like theirs I would have been out of business long ago... Their MAIN greeting sounds like it was recorded A) on a speakerphone and B)

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Hrm when it comes to sales I just call Kevin directly. That's like once a year. I call support very sparingly. In the last ~16 hours we've emailed back half a dozen times on three topics. Have you tried emailing them? Not saying they shouldn't answer the phone, but rather a solution to the

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Jeremie Chism
That is hilarious. I just tried it and you weren't joking. I was going to inquire about pricing but guess I won't. Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 2, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: Man... Don't get me started on PowerCode today. I just tried calling their sales line.

Re: [WISPA] Advice on PTP link over water?

2010-12-02 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 1 December 2010 16:51, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: Hi, we need to install an aprox. 8 mile PTP 5.8Ghz link near the Big Island in Hawaii. One end will be at about 50ft MSL, while the other end is at about 3500ft. The first 4 miles are over water, with rest over moderately

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Nash
Josh, I know that you I have had completely different experiences with them. No problem there, it is what it is. It sounds like you're experiencing what I had hoped to experience from them. My point is that I got very frustrated with their phone system being so made of bubble gum duct tape

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Nash
Dude, talk with Josh more before you decide that you don't go with them. There's GOT to be something he's doing that I'm not. I've got alot invested in PowerCode, and I wish it would turn the corner for me but it hasn't. On 12/2/2010 12:03 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: That is hilarious. I just

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Scott Reed
It depends on how sophisticated a ticketing system you need and what you mean by monitor, but I really like my BillMax implementation and it does have hooks to do whatever else you want, or to integrate into other systems. It does not require an onsite person to get it setup and do the

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
I believe that a major turn will be the Maxx. I don't understand how so much could be done via shell to begin with (Imagestream). The bmu is what makes the product work for your business. If you just do tickets, bills and such you're wasting your money. I care most about getting it done.

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Nash
I agree. Do NOT even consider paying for Powercode unless you intend to integrate with the BMU (bandwidth) management. That's where the real power is, though we're having problems still, with about 5 percent of our customers (those who have remote subnets, like a /30 or /29 or /24). Also

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
$800/mo buys you 10 hours of Freeside programming a month, and 30% discount beyond that... http://freeside.biz/freeside/services.html We've been using and contributing to Freeside for ~11 years now. Just my $.02. -Kristian On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 12:33 -0800, Mark Nash wrote: I agree. Do NOT

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
What issues with remote subnets? I have no issues with mine. There are missing classes and such that may be fixed soon. On Dec 2, 2010 3:35 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: I agree. Do NOT even consider paying for Powercode unless you intend to integrate with the BMU (bandwidth)

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Nash
Bandwidth throttling does not work with remote subnets. We have to put in Mikrotik queues for any customer who has a remote subnet. Also delinquent customers do not get shut off if they are using a remote subnet. On 12/2/2010 12:50 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What issues with remote subnets?

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Tony C. Loosle
Powercode may be great with the BMU, but as for a billing system is really sucks! Forget about basic accounting reports and simply things like a check deposit. Yes, customers still pay with a check. Forget about it in powercode! I agree. Do NOT even consider paying for Powercode unless you

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Nash
LOL that reminds me of Beavis Butthead, where all things in the world are lumped into two categories: This RULES and THIS SUCKS. Tony, your network may be much bigger than mine so billing problems show up more frequently, but, IMHO, billing is alright, not great, not perfect, just good.

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Scott Reed
Just remembered, BillMax is a WISPA member. On 12/2/2010 3:12 PM, Scott Reed wrote: It depends on how sophisticated a ticketing system you need and what you mean by monitor, but I really like my BillMax implementation and it does have hooks to do whatever else you want, or to integrate into

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
That's what I was referring to, too. They aren't applied to a class. I was told that will be fixed. Glad there aren't MORE things to be concerned about. On Dec 2, 2010 3:54 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: Bandwidth throttling does not work with remote subnets. We have to put in

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Nash
This is what I'm talking about though, Josh. We identified this problem late in 2009. We were told it would be fixed. I'm not trying to be sarcastic here, but I know that's how it sounds. There are no other words to use. On 12/2/2010 1:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: That's what I was

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh I know what you mean. It seems they didn't care about anything until Simon showed up. I think we completed the 477 tool and I have seen a couple changes/corrections myself, do I feel a lot better in the last month or two. On Dec 2, 2010 4:12 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: This is

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Nash
I think it goes deeper than that. It seems that if Bertram Wireless can use it, it gets done. If UnwiredWest needs it, well they're just a paying customer... On 12/2/2010 1:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Oh I know what you mean. It seems they didn't care about anything until Simon showed up.

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
I disagree but I can't convince you why. Definitely see where you're coming from. On Dec 2, 2010 4:22 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: I think it goes deeper than that. It seems that if Bertram Wireless can use it, it gets done. If UnwiredWest needs it, well they're just a paying

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Jason Hensley
Thought I would just chime back in a little bit on this subject: No experience with Powercode, but with Platypus we can do RADIUS (PPPoE) authentication and control the profiles from within Platypus with account types, assign the appropriate rate limiting, static IP addresses, etc etc -

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Tony C. Loosle
the reports don't exisit. how does she get a list of paid checks out of the system to match up for a deposit? I would love to know that one! LOL that reminds me of Beavis Butthead, where all things in the world are lumped into two categories: "This RULES" and "THIS SUCKS". Tony, your

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Nash
Dunno man, and it's probably not worth bothering her over unless it's important to you to know how she does it (let me know if you'd like to know). I know that we don't record invoices or payments in Quickbooks. On 12/2/2010 2:48 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote: the reports don't exisit. how does

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
The problem I have with Radius is that you have no way to shut them off. You would have to change the profile (easy) and have the device reauthenticate (not as easy). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:26 PM,

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
I don't use RADIUS for PPPoE, so forgive me ignorance, but isn't that possible with a CoA or PoD request... http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:RADIUS_Client#Change_of_Authorization http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2t=20604start=0 -Kristian On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 18:00 -0500, Josh

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Normis says PPPoE doesn't support CoA, only PoD.. So you can do it with PoD I guess (which is new to me). How many devices support this? Seems it could be done from the server, but that's as much effort as just severing the pppoe session. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
Wouldn't it be up the the NAS (e.g. your MT PPPoE server) to support it? But yes, you could probably script something to remove the session directly on the NAS in the same number of lines of code as you could trigged the PoD from your RADIUS server. -Kristian On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 18:21 -0500,

Re: [WISPA] Question about beacon lights rules on a tower

2010-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
I know you can mount above it. Tons of towers around here do. On Dec 2, 2010 9:24 PM, Christopher Hair wirele...@ntinet.com wrote: At what height must a beacon light be placed on a tower. Can anything be mounted above the beacon light? Or must the beacon be at the highest point on the tower? I

Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-12-02 Thread John Thomas
Have you looked at MTUs on the client PCs? If they have Windows PCs, download TCP Optimizer and set the MTU down to 1472 or less. A lot of ADSL circuits use PPPoE and it adds overhead. By dropping the MTU to allow for the PPPoE overhead, things will start working. IF testing show that this

Re: [WISPA] Question about beacon lights rules on a tower

2010-12-02 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
Check with the FAA FSDO that covers the area Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: Christopher Hair wirele...@ntinet.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 21:23:56 To: motor...@afmug.com; 'WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread John Vogel
We just recently switched to Freeside from Platypus. One of the reasons was to give more control over integration. Although the biggest complaint I had with Plat was that it took 10 clicks to get to the information I wanted... With Freeside, we have it set up to add entries into FreeRadius,

Re: [WISPA] Question about beacon lights rules on a tower

2010-12-02 Thread RickG
If you cant then every government emergency service agency around here is in trouble! On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I know you can mount above it. Tons of towers around here do. On Dec 2, 2010 9:24 PM, Christopher Hair wirele...@ntinet.com

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-12-02 Thread Kevin Neal
Forgive me if it's changed in newer versions, on version 8 you would go to Reports | Financial | Query-based Accounting Reports, then fill in the start and end dates, select Payments and hit run. It's in there, it's a very common report that we run and it would be nice to have it be one button