[WSG] Re: [WD]: Re: Display large images in photo gallery

Hi Bennie, Nice site. Good to see a change from three column layouts with a banner at the top! :-) However, looking at your markup, I see you've got a certain amount of classitis and divitis! You have, e.g., got lots of li tags, all classed as menu [ li class=menu]. Could you not incorporate

Re: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

In case anyone doesn't know, see: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-MathML/chap6/ISOAMSA2.html for a good list of arrows/symbols. Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

[WSG] zoom, or text zoom?

Hi All, I joined this group a couple of weeks ago and already have learnt lots of stuff. But, like all new folk to xhtml/css, I'm struggling to accept some of it. I've used CSS for a couple of years now, but only recently have moved to full CSS (no tables etc). The thing that worries me most is

Re: [WSG] zoom, or text zoom?

that requires the user to scroll both horizontally and vertically. Particularly on small screens, this can become a pain when all the user wanted to do was to punch up the text size a notch or two because the designer chose some (to them) illegibly small size. and: From: Chris Stratford [EMAIL

[WSG] Font size and arrogance

. For a lot of web designers (as opposed to web site producing technicians), a web site is just the same - it isn't arrogant, it's called passion. If you as a client don't like what a web designer does, you choose someone else, just like with the wallpaper. You know the old saying: you can't please all

[WSG] image captions?

Hi all, I am putting a few small images into a body of text, and am defining a very simple declaration for them, according to whether I want them flush left or right: e.g. .imgleft{ float : left; margin : 20px;} Doing this enables me to have the body of the text flowing around the image, with

[WSG] using br - was [ image captions?]

- Original Message - From: Thorsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] image captions? why don't you put the image plus caption into a div and float that div? div class=imgleft img /br / caption text /div Thanks

[WSG] image captions again

- Original Message - From: Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:10 AM xHTML: div class=imgleftimg /caption text/div CSS: div.imgleft { width: 200px; /* or whatever is appropriate */ float:left; text-align:center; } div.imgleft img { display:block; }

[WSG] Re: image captions again

Ignore my last message - I realised I'm putting a block level div in an inline p Duh! :-) But I don't know how to get around it . . . . http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/imagesintext.html Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk

[WSG] forms in Opera?

Hi All, I have designed a form as part of an ongoing upgrade to a site I manage, and the form works fine in IE6, IE5.5, Firefox, Mozilla, but NOT in Opera 7.0, where the formatting just falls apart. It doesn't look like a box model problem, but I can't see what's wrong. You can see the very

[WSG] definition tag?

Hi all, When would you (usefully) use dfntextdfn? (enquiring minds like to know . . . :-) Thanks, Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] site check please - an illustrated novel

Hi All, I would be grateful for any and all feedback on a redesign I've done for a site which presents an illustrated novel. Some of it is a weeny bit hybrid, but (a small amount of flash aside) it all validates as xhtml and presentational matter is down to an absolute minimum. I have not done

[WSG] splash pages -[was site check please - an illustrated novel ]

Thanks Will, but all those validation errors are because of using Flash - there is no way to use Flash 'properly' and get the thing to validate (all the workarounds have problems, as I understand it). Outrageous, but there ye go! :-) Thanks for your thoughts. Tom (and Will) - I will bear all

[WSG] Dreamweaver : was [ Standards Macromedia Contribute]

Hi Mario and all, - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Standards Macromedia Contribute Also, I must admit I'm growing rather weary of all the negative remarks about Dreamweaver. From my humble perspective I use

Re: [WSG] Site review

Hi All, - Original Message - From: Bennie Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 9:34 AM Subject: [WSG] Site review I've offered to redo this site http://www.g-e-t.me.uk/index.html and have come up with this as a replacement

Re: [WSG] CSS alignment issues

- Original Message - From: Tatham Oddie To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 7:36 AM Subject: [WSG] CSS alignment issues If you look at the homepage - http://www.e-oddie.com/ - I'm having problems laying the content out. I'm trying to centre the image on the

[WSG] centering without hassle - was CSS alignment issues

Hi Tatham (and all) - Original Message - From: Tatham Oddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org; 'designer' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 2:19 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] CSS alignment issues Bob, Thanks for your help here... I now finally have the page

[WSG] learning CSS

Hi All, two comments fascinated me: [1] - Original Message - From: Vicki Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [snip] My own method of preference in these circumstances is the use of conditional comments for IE. [2] - Original Message - From: Kornel Lesinski

Re: [WSG] Browser Check - such inconsistencies!

- Original Message - From: Lori Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:21 AM Subject: [WSG] Browser Check - such inconsistencies! So, before heading this way for some help, I checked out the site on many platforms.

[WSG] A new year challenge - was [ Web Design in 2005]

Hi everyone: Forty Media wrote: Flash widgets come into common use; full-site Flash still regarded as sucks. Can anyone who is really interested in web 'design' say that a site such as: http://www.fosterandpartners.com/internetsite/Flash.html 'sucks'? It certainly isn't standards material

[WSG] divs, layers, trans and strict

Hello all, and a good new year to you all! I am 'playing' with some layers which sit on top of each other to create a specific effect. I have converted the layers to CSS in the header (instead of inline styling) and it works fine as HTML4.01 trans. it can be seen at [1]. However, as soon as I

Re: [WSG] divs, layers, trans and strict

Thanks guys (and gal :-) It was indeed the wrong case that was doing it. I just knew it was something daft that I couldn't spot, but you got it! Very grateful - it's so annoying when you can't see it . . . ! Bob Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk

Re: [WSG] Help with centering - jumps horizontally depending on presence of vertical scrollbar

Hi Mani, Try using mozscroll in your CSS: #mozscroll { position: absolute; top: 0px; bottom: -1px; visibility: hidden } then, in your code: div id=mozscrollnbsp;/div (I usually put mine at the bottom of the page). HTH Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.)

[WSG] I had to laugh - was [ Some links for light reading (3/1/05)]

Hello all, - Original Message - From: russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beware of Opening Links in a New Window http://www.sitepoint.com/article/beware-opening-links-new-window When I looked at this link just now, I read the Neil Turner's piece about why I shouldn't open a new

[WSG] being framed!

Hello all, I'm having a bit of trouble using frames without a border and getting the frameset to validate. OK, throw your prejudices about frames to one side (I believe there are times when the advantages outweigh the disadvantages) as I've heard them many times and, at least for now, I want to

Re: [WSG] being framed!

Kornel, Frameborder 0 still leaves the space between the frames, so is effectively useless. Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: Kornel Lesinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:46 AM

[WSG] accessibilty and responsibility

Hi all, I'm coming to this very much as a newbie, so be gentle with your response: I feel that, in many ways, we as web designers are getting the short straw by being asked to counteract the shortcomings of the browser/PC people, rather than the other way around. For example, Opera has a really

[WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

Hello everyone, Could someone please point me to the information I'm after - I've searched and got a lot of very unreliable information and not found what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a list of valid attributes which can be used with tables in XHTML strict. Dreamweaver is disappointing in

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

Thanks Bert, Kornel, I read the DTD by downloading the file, loading into FF and viewing the source (IE wouldn't load it :-) Very interesting. As usual, one thing leads to another and I learnt lots of stuff in there. Bert, your reference to www.zvon.org was invaluable! What a source of

[WSG] yet more valid table tags for xhtml strict

Hi Guys, Well just for completion, I've found that in addition to align and valign for td, for tables you can use: table summary=testing the attributes! width=600 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 border=1 rules=cols frame=hsides and it is perfectly valid XHTML strict! And I'm using the standard

Re: [WSG] double space after period

- Original Message - From: Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: john [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 23 January 2005 9:31 PM To: web standards group Subject: [WSG] double space after period Forgive me if this

[WSG] re:scribbles

Hi Carmelyne, - Original Message - From: Carmelyne Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] scribbles A question to answer your question. Would you consider pop up windows as focus-stealing from a users

Re: [WSG] Containers and frames

Hi Robin, - Original Message - From: Robin Lauryssen-Mitchell To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: [WSG] Containers and frames This is my first attempt at using Containers: http://www.rpehlm.me.uk/rpehlm/home_con.php Take a look if you like

[WSG] Standards?

Good Day everyone: I have been doing the annual maintenance/update of a Holiday Home letting site I've had for a few years, so this year I attempted to convert it all to standards. It is now XHTML1 /CSS and most of it validates. (I say most because there is a bit of Flash and some of it uses

Re: [WSG] Standards?

Hi All, Everyone has had something sensible to say, but it's interesting to play Devil's advocate with Mark's list: - Speed Development Hey - she'll be expecting me to reduce my prices next year! :-) - Simplify Maintenance, Increase Opportunity Ditto! - Open Up Access Options OK -

[WSG] standards in local government

Hi All, I was surprised to find a local government web site (English) using standards and accessibility: http://www.oldham.gov.uk/ It doesn't quite validate, but it's a determined start! Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk

[WSG] standards and meta tags

Hello all, After looking at the site mentioned by Anthony (relating to standards and local government) I noticed a lot of meta tags on that site [ http://www.salford.gov.uk ] which I haven't seen before, e.g.: meta name=eGMS.Date.Modified content=2005-02-01 11:02 / meta name=eGMS.Format

Re: [WSG] standards and meta tags

Thanks Patrick, Geoff. Very helpful. Good Lord! You could spend your whole life devoted to this area! :-) Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] accessibilty and responsibility

With respect Christopher, I think you're missing the point. To take your analogy further, it seems to me that making web designers emsolelyem responsible for dealing with accessibility is like telling architects they're off the hook with regard to ramps etc, and getting the decorators to carry the

Re: [WSG] double space after period

Surely, the argument against the double space is only a short step away from it's logical extension: don't have paragraphs either, just have continuous text . . .? The logic behind both is surely the same? Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message

Re: [WSG] valid tracker code

Thanks to Lisa and all who replied. I now have a statcounter installed and under test! And I'll be adding Patrick's simplified version too, very soon. Thanks again, Bob McClelland,Cornwall (U.K.)www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: kemie guaida

Re: [WSG] Centre DIV Vertically? Any compliant methods?

Hi Joey, I've wanted to do this for ages, and never found a solution which is rigid AND which works in IE. In addition, the published methods usually need you to know the dimensions of the div you are centering, and I want a method which centers both horizontally AND vertically, nomatter what

Re: [WSG] systemnames in CSS?

Thank you (all). Does this mean that, if I emonlyem use systemcolors on a site, the site will match the decor of the PC in question, and, appear differently depending upon how the machine is set, or are the system colours 'constant'. In other words, can I make a site be a good match for the

Re: [WSG] systemnames in CSS?

- Original Message - From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] systemnames in CSS? Bob, yes...I actually played around with the idea back in January, and made a half-finished experiment here

Re: [WSG] To display or not to display validation logos?

Stephen, Until recently, my feelings were precisely as expressed in your third paragraph! However, I just upgraded a website for a holiday business, and I explained to the owner that it was now done to standards and all that stuff. It meant zero to her, but at least she could appreciate that

[WSG] validation logos - kitemarks?

- Original Message - From: Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] To display or not to display validation logos? What you may want to do is insted of the displaying that logo, use the smaller ones, like the

Re: [WSG] validation logos - kitemarks?

Hi all, I think that basically we all agree in principle. However, to take a couple of points: [1] Patrick's : It's a bit like plastering a nice big sticker on a new building saying built with bob's special concrete mix. As long as the site (or building) performs as it should, customers do

Re: [WSG] validation logos - kitemarks?

- Original Message - From: Andy Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] validation logos - kitemarks? I think most people put validation logos on their sites for peers. This is often just vanity/showing off.

Fw: [WSG] centering a page

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:43:27 -0500, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get a page to center vertically and horizontally, it works well on IE/win and gecko, but when I checked it on mac, both safari and IE/win mess it up. Any suggestions or links to resources on how

[WSG] Strange problem

Good Morning All, (well, it is here), I have recently started the conversion of a site (www.sheltielife.co.uk - actually my wife's) to XHTM/CSS and I thought it was fine. It all validates etc (apart from the frameset and a teeny bit of Flash:-) and I've tested it in FF, IE5.5 and 6, Opera 7,

Re: [WSG] Strange problem

Thanks Ingo, but she can see ALL the rest of the site, so it can't be that! Much obliged, Bob - Original Message - From: Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Strange problem designer schrieb

[WSG] linked image problem in IE

Dear experts, I have just upgraded a site to xhtml/css, no tables etc. It all seems to work fine in FF, Opera, IE5.5 and 6 (dunno about MAC!). Fine, that is, apart from in IE, where I see a short blue line in between the thumbnails in any of the gallery sections. it is as though it's

Re: [WSG] linked image problem in IE

: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: RE: [WSG] linked image problem in IE -Original Message- From: designer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2005 8:47 PM To: webstandards group Subject: [WSG] linked image problem in IE Dear experts, I have just upgraded

[WSG] you've been framed!

Good Day Ladies and Gentlemen, Let me get it off my chest - I use frames sometimes! As far as I'm concerned, when you have a great long scrolling list (for example) and you want (need) to keep the nav stuff stationary, frames represent the ONLY way to do it. [posn-fixed] doesn't work in IE, nor

[WSG] Firefox bug on mouse scrolling

Hi all, I notice a bug in Firefox (I think it is, anyway) which shows itself as a 2-3 pixel gap appearing in the bottom border of an image when the viewport is altered by scrolling with the mouse wheel. It doesn't affect all the images (strange) only some, and the image must be outside the

Re: [WSG] you've been framed!

McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 4:33 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] you've been framed! designer wrote: OK, I know about the pitfalls, but the bookmarking

Re: [WSG] Firefox bug on mouse scrolling

PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Firefox bug on mouse scrolling designer wrote: Hi all, I notice a bug in Firefox (I think it is, anyway) which shows itself as a 2-3 pixel gap appearing in the bottom border of an image when

[WSG] you've been framed! - Pt2 : overflow

Happy Easter to all! So I've done some fiddling with overflow : auto, and failed. My problem is (as far as I can see) that one has to specify a height for the div which has overflow:auto, and I don't know how to set the height to fill the viewport space under the menu. Normally I'd set it to

Re: [WSG] you've been framed! - Pt2 : overflow

[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] you've been framed! - Pt2 : overflow designer wrote: So I've done some fiddling with overflow : auto, and failed. OK, maybe I'm missing a trick here (do please tell me!) but if not, it looks

[WSG] you've been framed - Pt3

Hi Martin, et al, I've taken your code and added a menu to the top of it, and it works after a fashion. It doesn't work in IE5.5 and I don't know what to do with it, esp as I don't fully understand what the IE expression is doing. If you go to:

Re: [WSG] Hidden Content[This Was Not My Idea]

Hi Chris, - Original Message - From: Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Hidden Content[This Was Not My Idea] Hi, I think there has been a misunderstanding. This was asked of me by the client as an

[WSG] site check please! - no frames and position-fixed

Hello all, I would really really like your feedback on this. I have now completed my investigations into emulating frames with overflow etc, and have settled instead on a very neat method which uses an expression for IE. The method is basically the one by Anne van Kesteren [1] and it's really

[WSG] underscore hack - why underscore?

I have been playing with the underscore hack and noticed that almost anything that isn't 0-1 or a-z performs the same trick. Certainly * works, as does #, , , {, }, [, ], (, ), ^, /, =, ~, @, ?, and, probably, lots more. If this is correct, I personally would prefer to put my 'IE only'

Re: [WSG] underscore hack - why underscore?

H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] underscore hack - why underscore? designer wrote: I have been playing with the underscore hack and noticed that almost anything that isn't 0-1 or a-z performs the same trick

Re: [WSG] Opening links in new window with XHTML

Hi Tatham, Of course, if you make it XHTML1.0 transitional, it'll be fine! !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd" (Do you need the strict1.1 inthis case?) Bob McClelland,Cornwall

Re: [WSG] Opening links in new window with XHTML

You may be interested in my short piece fenestration for the masses at: http://www.marscovista.fsnet.co.uk/gwelanmor/comment/scribblings.html :-) Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for

[WSG] newspaper format

Hi Guys and gals, I have been trying to present the information relating to a novel in a more interesting style than 'just text' or indeed three columns, and have experimented with a sort of newspaper style. The newspaper is a fictitious one which is mentioned often in the novel, and my effort

Re: [WSG] newspaper format

Thanks Paul, - Original Message - From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: webstandards group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] newspaper format [snip] Bob, Your two-column 'newspaper' format works for me cosmetically but not as

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

Hey Georg, - Original Message - From: Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode [snip] Might you be kind enough to tell me what IE6 has to offer in standard mode that it

[WSG] markup readability (was: newspaper format)

Hi Patrick (and all), I understand what you are saying about presentational names, but where does one draw the line? I must say that I sometimes find it hard to 'read' someone's markup because the div names are chosen badly. Certainly in this particular case, my structure of: container menu

Re: [WSG] Mystical belief in the power of Web Standards, Usability, and tableless CSS

There is a vital ingredient in web design which is never mentioned by guys like this : IMAGE. There are many web sites which sell nothing but image - no products, no marketing: just image. Such a site is: http://www.fosterandpartners.com/internetsite/Flash.html It suffers from many of the

[WSG] IMAGE(was Mystical belief etc)

Hi Kornel, 4 seconds and I go back to Mars. I saw the IMAGE, all hundreds kilobytes of it, but I don't know who they are and what they're selling. Well you would, if you looked at the site . . . Small and blurry text. I just skip over blocks of text because I can't read them. Clicking

Re: [WSG] IMAGE(was Mystical belief etc)

This is tending to drift off-topic, but it is a valid part of standards because we're discussing accessibility issues in relation to design and the role of 'image' in design. (So now I feel better :-). The attitude that says 'visually impaired people don't matter because it isn't for them' may

Re: [WSG] Accessibility and showcasing heavily visual work (was IMAGE(was Mystical belief etc))

is primarily xhtml and the visuals or branding utilize a swf(with alternate content of course)? That's great if it is done by a standards-wise designer, so it's done properly (with the fallback alternatives). Interesting Jan, how would you do that - any examples? Thanks Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K

Re: [WSG] IMAGE(was Mystical belief etc)

or otherwise design showcase site - what designer is going to give half a though to blind or visually impaired users? Quite honestly, in a situation like this site... who cares about them? - it's not for people who are blind or visually impaired

[WSG] best practice?

Firstly, let me say that I have been doing standards only since last September, so am very much a novice. I have upgraded 5 or so sites to be XHTML/CSS etc, and got them to validate as STRICT, so I am happy that 'I can do it', as far as it goes. I have learnt quite a lot (in fact, it seems a

Re: [WSG] best practice?

As my old Dad used to say: Well, blow me down! A stunner! An absolute revelation! So how emcan/em I have missed that? Geesh - thank you. Get yourself a beer, on me :-) (and thanks to all who responded, too) Lawdy - I've got work to do now, removing all those conditional comments and adding

Re: [WSG] best practice?

- Original Message - From: Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] best practice? I wouldn't do that, unless you want everything centered... Text in every paragraph, content of any and every div, list item

[WSG] Firefox bug?

Ladies and gentlemen, I have been trying to produce a gallery thing without using a table, and my test file has four images in a vertical column. It all seems fine, except in FF1.0, where the second and fourth images display several dashed lines across the image. (on the face of it, they are all

Re: [WSG] Firefox bug?

be adequate? Thanks for your help (All) Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: Gunlaug Srtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Firefox bug? designer wrote: I

OFF LIST - [WSG] Firefox bug?

Hi Again Georg, Interesting. If I do away with the main grey background, and check the 'smooth scrolling' the problem gets worse! See: http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/wg/FFbug2.jpg Also, same code, but using a table instead of a nest of divs is fine - no problem:

Re: OFF LIST - [WSG] Firefox bug?

? designer wrote: (I went off-list because folk may be getting bored with it :-) Next time you go off list, make sure you're not actually sending it to the list's email address, though... -- Patrick H. Lauke _ redux (adj.): brought back

[WSG] site check/comments please

Good day, I am upgrading a site to standards etc and would be grateful for any feedback/suggestions etc, and confirmation from MAC folk that it works OK. It isn't quite finished (two of the contributor links don't work yet - I'm working my way through them) but most of it is in place. The site

Re: [WSG] site check/comments please

Bob, Nice site. All works well in IE Mac, FF, Camino and Safari. Should the list of Contributors be a ul instead of h3? Mary On 9 May 2005, at 12:05, designer wrote: Good day, I am upgrading a site to standards etc and would be grateful for any feedback/suggestions etc

Re: [WSG] site check/comments please

are going to insert Flash, because it won't validate anyway! (I'm aware of the satay stuff, but never been very keen on it.) The failures to validate stem only from the flash and the proprietary counter, and there is little I can do about that. The use of the strict code allows the designer to get

Re: [WSG] Flash Satay method article

OK Simon, this looks wonderful! I've tested it out, and it works for me. So what's wrong with it, that you know of? Bob McClelland,Cornwall (U.K.)www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: Simon Jessey To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, May

[WSG] frames

Hi All, Can anyone tell me if/when it is 'OK' to use frames? Since the W3C spec still includes them, I wondered (if) when it was considered legit to employ them - on a par with tables, which are avoided at all costs, except when displaying 'tabular data'. So I assume the W3C have included

[WSG] apostrophes, and the like.

Hi All, How much do I need to bother about quotation marks etc being represented as their 'proper' equivalent, eg ' as #39, and so on? I am working on an extract from a writer's work and as I've cut and pasted a lot of it, I've ended up with the horrific prospect of painstakingly going through

Re: [WSG] apostrophes, and the like.

Thanks all - I got 'Tidy' and found that very useful. However, in this instance I am copying and pasting from Word, so a special thanks, Kay, for that wisdom. I never use design view either, so I didn't know about that valuable trick! Brilliant! Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.)

[WSG] W3C and Flash (was: make poverty history website)

Surely, the point we are at with Flash is analogous to the early days of the web, when you couldn't even put a picture in your document. You could only have text. As time went on, it became desirable to include 'pictures' and so the web (html) developed a stage further. Putting it at the

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

So, is this example 'wrong' ? dl dtCAMELFORD OFFICE:/dt dd20 Market Place/dd ddCamelford/dd ddCornwall/dd ddPL32 9PD/dd ddTEL 01840 212938/dd ddFAX 01840 213596/dd /dl It's what I generally use for the contact

Re: [WSG] Best way to train someone in css and web standards

Hi Cole, Sounds like you want to train someone in the (not easy) transition to standards by having to do very little. If you can find a way to get them proficient in the basics, have a thorough knowledge of hacks and browser behaviour and be able to produce original designs (sort of like zen

Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue

I'm confused as to what is happening here. Will someone please try the opening page of www.kernowimages.co.uk , confirm that it works in IE, and save my sanity? For me it works in WinXP running IE5.5 and 6, as well as FF1, Opera 8. If you have time, you could check the 'credits' page as well.

[WSG] valid flash?

OK, I'm getting a bit confused and I need help from someone with a clear head! I've been comparing the method of getting valid flash suggested by Simon Jessey with that suggested by Bert Doorn. You can see a simple test page of the two, running side by side, at

Re: [WSG] Photo gallery standards?

Have a look too at my www.withoutgrass.com site. An original approach, AFAIK. Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Web Standards Group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:40

Re: [WSG] Style PRE with word wrap?

- Original Message - From: Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To split hairs, though, the problem with pre seems to be that it appears very much like a presentational, rather than a semantic element. Any semantics seem to be inferred by the fact that the content is preformatted, which is a

Re: [WSG] Style PRE with word wrap?

Hi Patrick, - Original Message - From: Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Style PRE with word wrap? But to reiterate: h1 has semantic connotations - the content it marks up is a heading. pre, on the other

Re: *** SPAM *** [WSG] Is there a tool that converts long hand CSS to shorthand CSS?

Top Style: www.bradsoft.com Bob McClelland,Cornwall (U.K.)www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: Ben Wrighton - StraightForward To: WSG - post msg Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: *** SPAM *** [WSG] Is there a tool that

[WSG] CDATA and html tidy

Morning all, When I run HTML tidy on a file (XHTML strict), it always wants to add /*![CDATA[*/ inside my CSS section: style type=text/css Blah blah style becomes: style type=text/css /*![CDATA[*/ Blah blah etc Should I actually be doing that? Thanks, Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.)

[WSG] TESTING - PLEASE IGNORE!

You just couldn't resist, could you! :-) Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

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