a site that has a home page
with 40k of HTML that includes 40 tables, some of which only hold ONE word
(4 characters of content hidden in a total of 262 bytes of tag soup)
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and WinXP respectively). Is this ALL select elements, or just one or two of
them?
I might revert to tables for layout - no headaches with those.
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puzzled why the selects in
www.betterwebdesign.com.au/request-quote.asp don't work in Netscape 7.
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Very interesting
I do find it ironic that a page talking about Microsoft's lack of standards
support does not validate. Close, but no cigar.
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saw in Opera,
without breaking the site for others or adding tons of javascript. The site
used to make extensive use of tables (and at one stage even frames), which I
am trying to steer clear of.
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recently. I found that the border is actually IN
the object, not around it. Put a style=border:none on the body tag of the
document you load into the object. Worked for me in IE6 and Mozilla 1.6+
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).
Both documents are valid XHTML1.1 with a DTD
Sorry, I haven't got an older version of MSIE handy.
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descriptions with overflow:hidden). See
www.bwdzine.com/divs2.html - increase font size to see the mess.
Any ideas / clean, working examples?
FWIW, I have no control over how much text would go in each box.
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=36) is clever, but has
the same problem (and will only work for a small portion of visitors). (But
thanks for the tip - when viewed this way, it's quite obvious that I am in
fact dealing with tabular data)
I'll stick with a table but will try to cut out the empty spacer cells.
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citeHarry Potter/cite
/blockquote
Looks like I was at least on the right track with my choice of elements.
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developing to
standards is easier :-)
I've searched Google
but couldn't find any. I'd develop one myself, but haven't got the time
and I'm not a programmer (though I'd love togive it
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(seems the server is down however). That one probably doesn't work in
Mac IE either.
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a way for it to work in
other browsers.
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as you nest deeper (try putting an unordered list with links into the
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that was there in the first place.
Perhaps I am a lone voice in the desert, but why go back to 1990's style
websites when we have CSS? Is it necessary to make people wait, just so you
can show them the font YOU like (and they might not be able to see anyway)?
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the em element to have bold
italic text in (graphical/text) browsers.
The problem with b and i is that it's presentational. strong and em
on the other hand have semantic meaning (especially when using assistive
technology like text-to-speech converters).
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somewhere that it's possible to link a div to an
external source (it used an attribute like data or src) but I think it
was a Netscape-ism.
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Ouch.
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is the appropriate heading level and you do want to link to it
internally, I would write it like this:
h5 id=ventdoorVent Door Systems/h5
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and MSIE6, but might have some problems in MSIE5.x and certainly
will look different in MSIE/NN4. No idea about Safari but I'm guessing it's
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XHTML and more.
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most images on the page(s) are the same size or (B) for an image (like a
logo) that appears on every page (and not as a background image). Other
than that, I would still use the HMTL attributes.
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form tag causes some issues with IE.
Any ideas as to what would be the best way to approach this?
Remove margin and padding from the form and all should be well.
#searchform form {
margin:0;
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ironic
given what I said above) Otherwise you might try specifying its size in
em's so it will scale up/down as appropriate. 780px is too wide for many
people who still run at a resolution of 800x600. Why annoy them with
horizontal scrollbars?
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#container div so MSIE drops it below the #content div.
See http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.html for a
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accessibility. (No, haven't used that either -
just reading it on their website)
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on the footer div. The box model
adds the padding to the width, so you end up with 0.25em + 100% + 0.25em.
Change it to padding: 0.25em 0; and the scrollbar should disappear. Should
not matter for the content as it's centered anyway.
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(unless I start playing with browser
settings, which I then have to undo again when I go to another site).
Also, don't you want people who have JavaScript enabled to provide feedback?
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xHTML:
div class=imgleftimg /caption text/div
CSS:
div.imgleft {
width: 200px; /* or whatever is appropriate */
float:left;
text-align:center;
}
div.imgleft img { display:block; }
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Gary) may work, but you may get some strange effects in non graphical
browsers (search engines, assistive technology):
...convallis ornare, tortor A picture . . . nibh ultricies ante...
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of news
items).
If there's only ever going to be one news item (e.g. you just want to show
the latest news), I'd stick with the traditional heading and paragraph(s).
Is a list with one item really a list?
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. Are definition lists in danger of replacing tables for layout?
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be
scaleable for the rest of the world's population.
Incidentally, with images disabled, the nav bar disappears (I'm using
Firefox 1.0 on Win2K). I can't read white text on a white background.
Suggest you put a background-color on the links, if not on the whole header.
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can't remember the last site I
did this on - must be years ago.
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they have a distinct presentation flavour.
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), on that same page, I see a lot of
code/Markup and get a message that XML Parsing Failed.
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if they don't
understand, or give them a properly coded example). They may not be
interested, but you can try.
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#coreattrs
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(as an
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is well structured (OK, graphics designers might disagree)
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, unless
you don't care about modem users.
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(IMG,
form field widgets, etc.)
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(background
images, lots of spans and classes, no img element with padding).
Anyway, it's up to you what you do :-)
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) content (the back button on my
browser is very handy there) because most of the information I seek is fine
as words and pictures (and I am impatient).
Of course, this is just my opinion and I'm sure there are flaws in my
argument :-)
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, why not make it a heading? If it's purely for
presentation, why not just apply an italic style to the paragraph?
Similarly, why are your headings h4 when there's no h2 or h3 on the page?
Curious
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Beyond that, replace the nested tables with more structural markup and
(optionally) update it to XHTML1.0 Strict.
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it, right after it tells you there's a
problem. Perhaps you missed it.
All you need to do is code the ampersands as amp; and it should
validate (unless there are other errors of course).
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with encoded mailto: links that look like gibberish in the
HTML. It's always worked fine.
What does a browser show when you put gt; or quot; in your HTML?
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-40k would be
better and should be achievable without too much loss of quality.
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but why would one take on such a mission?
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It's called a Flash of Unstyled Content (FOUC)
See http://www.bluerobot.com/web/css/fouc.asp
(Found in Resources section of the Web Standards Group's site)
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, rather than in the flow, or
remove the spaces inside the map.../map. Seems that's the
cause of the problem.
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objects.
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eyesight who
have discovered there are browsers other than IE.
My $0.02
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attributes to the images and putting the noscript
content inside a div.
See site in sig (towards the end of the xhtml source).
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;
width: 14em;
/* Add whatever formatting you want */
}
I use something like this on the forms on my own site (which
probably aren't perfect either, but I try).
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;
margin:0;
padding:0;
}
li {
background: transparent url(whatever) no-repeat;
padding-left: 30px;
}
Seems to work fine in Opera, MSIE and Firefox (on a quick test I
ran) But maybe I'm missing something.
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data=vide.htm id=mframe type=text/html width=690
height=320Text here for older browsers (perhaps a link to
vide.htm)/object
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as there may be elements
inside this box and rules that affect it. At a guess, adding a
width and/or height might help, especially if there's floated
elements inside the box.
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.org/TR/REC-html40/index/attributes.html indicates
that the align attribute it is *NOT* deprecated for COL,
COLGROUP, TBODY, TD, TFOOT, TH, THEAD and TR. Neither is valign.
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with meta ... /meta,
just like there is with br/br and img .../img
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of it, keeping the (x)HTML document nice and clean.
I thought the whole point behind (x)HTML strict was separation of
content and presentation. Keeping align attributes does not
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, use (still valid) Strict attributes
in minimal quantities.
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to put a
table with tabular data inside the single layout table). I
cringe when I see sites that nest their tables just to get some
spacing etc that can be achieved easily with CSS.
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as a single inline box, similar to a replaced
element. The inside of an inline-block is formatted as a block
box, and the element itself is formatted as an inline replaced
element.
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would see no matching class or id in the (x)HTML so they would
not use it.
Thoughts, anyone?
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#content:
clear:left;
That should fix it.
I won't comment on the use of tables... OK, I did :-)
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to take 17 different types of pills every day - about 12 of them
were prescribed to combat side-effects of the others
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should be aware of? (I don't have a Mac or Linux
system)
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blah blah/p
/div
css:
div.whatever img {
display:block;
float:left;
width: 200px;
}
div.whatever p {
margin-left: 220px; /* image width + a little extra */
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of the main h1. Each h3 belongs to a
sub-sub-section under the h2. And so on. You can have multiple
h2's each with multiple h3's etc.
That means... Your second version.
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The issue has been resolved. Thanks to all who replied (you know
who you are).
It was a faulty installation of Firefox, not faulty CSS or XHTML.
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Is there an alternative to the one I use now at http://www.iamu-edu.org
, that is(/was?, can't find it anymore) listed on Russ
http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/listamatic/ page?
Son of Suckerfish: http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/50.php
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their container.
Simplest way to fix it is to add this rule to your CSS:
.TeaserContainer:after {
clear:right;
display:block;
height:0;
content: ;
}
See http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html for
more info.
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if you were selling software that can only be operated by
expert users with the latest equipment? Different audience.
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The problem may not disappear if the page validates, but it
should be the first step in trying to find the cause of the problem.
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lists at the bottom of the
page, so the page doesn't suffer from spanitis and classitis.
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that in PHP because I don't speak PHP
and it would be off-topic for this list.
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attribute (and perhaps the cite element)
would be appropriate, since I am QUOTING, verbatim, from another
document and referring to the (external) source for reference :-)
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G'day
Terrence Wood wrote:
why? So that the summary is semantically different from the rest of the
content.
...
Bert Doorn wrote:
Question: *why* do you want to use blockquote in the first place?
If it is purely for presentational purposes (indented block) I agree
that you are abusing the markup
worked at some resolutions in MSIE. Rounding issue.
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so it should work.
windowdiv.setAttribute(className,wclass);
windowdiv.setAttribute(id,name);
the classname is not being set
any suggestions?
Have you tried class instead of className?
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you would need a very tall background
image if you want it shown the full length *height) of the
table/page.
If it is an image that can and should tile, remove the no-repeat
from your background rule (or replace it with the seemingly more
appropriate repeat-y).
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the table cell background
colours show through).
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neither js nor css support (e.g. lynx) will see a standard nested
bullet list with ALL the links.
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).
In standards mode (as with Firefox and Opera), left and right
padding is added to that figure, for a total width of 728px.
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happens if you remove that height setting?
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*have to* use the long-winded
rgb(255,255,255) approach.
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. No Headings (h1..h6)?
If you're going to tell people about markup and accessibility, at
least present it on a page which actually uses that markup
properly and is accessible.
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it sticks out on the
left. Stats vary, but this site will have the formatting problem
for a sizeable portion of visitors (perhaps half),
The absolute positioning you mentioned is the cause of your problem.
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Bert Doorn, Better Web Design
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question, I can't
see why you would use a table for such a simple layout, and the
inline styles should really go into the external style sheet.
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Bert Doorn, Better Web Design
http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/
Fast-loading, user-friendly websites
the standard DTDs).
Still, it would be nice to have additional input types, like
integer, email or currency, to go along with the existing
types.
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Bert Doorn, Better Web Design
http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/
Fast-loading, user-friendly websites
site), all of which increases the cost.
What other options are there, apart from complex, expensive CMS setups
(or forgetting about standards)?
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Bert Doorn, Better Web Design
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Fast-loading, user-friendly websites
use
it much - prefer hand-coding). And if they can't figure out how
to use it, they can come back and pay for updates...
Regards
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Bert Doorn, Better Web Design
http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/
Fast-loading, user-friendly websites
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