Ad hominem is an odd thing to put in here, and it is put in incorrectly, I
might add.
But it appears to me that you chose to let things go until they get out of
hand, assuring us that they will not. I chose to support the view that they
are already out of hand and will get much worse.
Saddam's
After careful consideration, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
Funny, but that's what I believe, too. (Well, that he's of our race,
anyway, and
I think he's *trying* to be decent, he's just in over his head and is a
figurehead for more sinister forces [goshdarnit, I'm beginning to sound
more and
more
Only if Bush puts Janet Reno back in as AG.
Jon
Steven wrote:
Is Colorado City (or Hildale Utah) the next Waco?
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And Christ came to fulfill the OT law and offer a higher law. (IOW, use the term
Bible less categorically and I think you'll see a stark contrast between OT and
NT ideas).
Jon Spencer wrote:
John W. Redelfs wrote:
Actually, the only time the Nephites went on a search and destroy mission,
I think that the Lord's prophecies will occur, regardless of what we do.
The only thing we can do is seek to establish Zion, spread the gospel,
and trust God to help us through all things.
As for wars, they are going to occur, regardless. We must seek to only be
involved in righteous wars,
And it is a terrible tragedy. Anytime innocent peoples are killed to make
a statement, then it is a definite tragedy.
And you are right, it is a movement. Clearly there are those nations that
definitely support this movement by their actions. Saddam has shown by
his actions that he supports
We may help establish freedom in Iraq. I think many Arabs are interested
in the gospel, however their current dictatorships and religious police
will not allow them to even say the word, Mormon. God does work through
Zion, however I know that he sometimes works through wars of preparation
as
ad hominem is not out of place. You don't plan your foreign policy based on
what a stinker some foreign head of government/state is. You'd have to invade
Canada and Britain if that were the case
Jon Spencer wrote:
Ad hominem is an odd thing to put in here, and it is put in incorrectly, I
Sounds like it was edifying for the congregation and spiritually satisfying for
you. Well done!
Jon Spencer wrote:
Stranger things have happened! (Sounds like you are becoming a good
Christian)
I wasn't able to find the time to write down some notes until about 11PM Sat
eve. I thought I
Or are you just reading that into such events? Were the Nephites wicked
for trying to destroy the Gadiantons? Or were they just not strong enough
to accomplish it? Perhaps the Nephites were more righteous when they
allowed the Gadiantons to grow in power among the Nephites? Let's not
misquote the
So, when the LORD declared unto Joshua that he had delivered the Amorites
into his hand or when the LORD himself cast down great stones from heaven
to slay the Amorites this was somehow fulfilling a lesser law? I fail to
understand how the Israelites were somehow keeping a lesser law when God
After careful consideration, Gary Smith wrote:
I only fear that such wars would quickly change to wars of pure
destruction, and not of preparation. If I'm not mistaken, I think Gileadi
compares the US with Egypt, and Russia with Assyria. We have problems in
this country, no doubt. However, I
Gary Smith wrote:
I can't help but remember what Edmund Burke said (paraphrased): All it
requires for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing.
Much of what you said in your post I would agree with. I think, though, that
Burke's quote is often misused when (and I'm speaking generally;
After careful consideration, Jon Spencer wrote:
How about Teancum? Was he righteous in his actions? Or will he burn in
hell forever for assasinating Amalickiah and Ammoron? Just where does one
draw the line between righteous action and unrighteous action? Clearly it
isn't just in what one
While I agree with you regarding righteous wars, I don't necessarily agree
with your statement that Zion doesn't expand through warfare
anymore. For instance, why has the Lord repeatedly stated that, after we
have done our part, He would fight our battles.
--
Steven Montgomery
At 07:41 PM
John Redelfs:
And Saddam is? What makes you think he is behind the
attack on 9-11? Actually, if you trace the money and arms
back another notch, I think you will find that Russia and
China are heavily promoting terrorism, using these Saudis,
Iraqis, Afghanis, etc. to hide their meddling.
-Gary-
look at how fluid the border with Mexico is.
-Marc-
They are just taking back the land you took from them by force,
but they're using other means and are outsmarting you. It's
called La Reconquista. ;-)
Obviously you think this is quite clever, since you've used this term
several
After careful consideration, Jon Spencer wrote:
I take it, then, that (1) you strongly believe that Bush is controlled by
the rich folks,
Not rich folks. Evil, rich folks, folks who want to destroy our nation and
especially our Constitution.
and (2) those of us who approve of his approach in
Well, Paul, what can I say? You're probably the kind of person who eats lobsters
and bugs, and, and, ... ham sandwiches, and mixes meat and milk together, too.
Wait'll I tell your bishop, Rabbi McConkiestein. You oughta be ashamed. :-)
Paul Osborne wrote:
And so far, nobody pays any
After careful consideration, Paul Osborne wrote:
Yes, the Lord gave this to his ancient covenant people and we as saints
should apply this principle although we really haven't been instructed on
how to do it. But, I fail to see how this teaching in Mormon scripture is
binding upon the government
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Redelfs:
And Saddam is? What makes you think he is behind the
attack on 9-11? Actually, if you trace the money and arms
back another notch, I think you will find that Russia and
China are heavily promoting terrorism, using these Saudis,
Iraqis, Afghanis,
After careful consideration, Gary Smith wrote:
Or are you just reading that into such events? Were the Nephites wicked
for trying to destroy the Gadiantons? Or were they just not strong enough
to accomplish it? Perhaps the Nephites were more righteous when they
allowed the Gadiantons to grow in
After careful consideration, Gary Smith wrote:
As for your claim that Bush is a Gadianton, just where is your proof?
Is proof needed? It is just common sense. The man in the street does not
start wars. Men with wealth and power do. Who has the wealth and power
today? It is Bush and
After careful consideration, Gary Smith wrote:
Does anyone wonder why he gave such a testimony of the First Vision and of
Joseph Smith during General Conference? It was to assure the members that
he knows these things occurred.
---
I must say that I was thrilled when I heard that talk. I know
After careful consideration, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think we're after him because of September 11th. I
think we're after him because our president believes he
plans to obtain a nuclear weapon and use it against us.
I haven't noticed any of those other countries planning to
do so.
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